In short
Country music and life on the road, centered on Riley Green’s Alabama roots, his land-clearing hobby, post-tour identity, and stories from early gigs and small-town upbringing. He also discusses work ethic, generational change, social media/comparison, and humorous “get ready with me”/bar-fight culture.
Guest backgrounds
Riley Green is a country musician and songwriter from Jacksonville, Alabama. His new album That’s Just Me is out September 18, and he’s on his Cowboy As It Gets tour. He grew up in Pleasant Valley/Williams Community near Jacksonville State and worked with his father (carpenter) and uncle/family on property.
Key claims
Bulldozers/tractors help him stay sane and creative; touring never “ends,” so having a farm project provides closure. He says he must “show up” happy on stage. He credits his grandfathers’ influence for “Grandpa’s Never Die,” which he co-wrote. He argues modern life/work ethic has shifted due to social media and comparison.
Notable examples
Owning 1,780 acres and buying land in pieces; clearing fields, digging a lake, and leaving shade trees for animals. Early career: opening at Soul Kitchen (Mobile) and playing Floribama spring breaks (noon-to-4 shows, beach tent setup). A viral arm-wrestling story where an opponent’s arm snapped. Stories about surprise parties, missing coffee maker, and PF flyers/light-up shoes.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VORelaxation and Clearing Land
0:45 to 1:50
Riley shares how clearing land with a bulldozer is a relaxing escape from touring.
“Today's guest is a country musician and songwriter from Jacksonville, Alabama.”
Nature and Conservation Discussion
1:50 to 3:40
The conversation evolves into how Riley aims to improve land for wildlife rather than just developing it.
“Except the animals are like, here comes, look, we love his music, but this guy's.”
Finding Identity Post-Tour
3:40 to 6:10
Riley reflects on his personal identity after touring and how he finds grounding in land projects.
“oh both of them who am I and what do I do with myself like you know not in a not in a whiny way but it just like kind of hit me like that it's like okay so it's time for me to like kind of embraced some of those.”
Family and Work on the Farm
6:10 to 8:10
Riley discusses involving family in farm work and the satisfaction of seeing tangible results from their efforts.
“Whether they had me painting or just like moving seed or just like cleaning spray rigs, just whatever it was, man.”
Comparing Music to Construction Work
8:10 to 11:00
Theo and Riley compare the gratification of construction work with the ups and downs of the music industry.
“But I remember, though, like you weren't in a, I don't think a surprise party.”
Surprise Party Anecdote
11:00 to 12:20
Riley shares a humorous story about attending Theo's surprise party and his feelings about surprises.
“And then we were supposed to have Conor McGregor was supposed to be on.”
Memorable Experiences in Music
12:20 to 14:00
Riley recounts his early days in music and the unique experiences he had performing at various venues.
“I've got a picture of me opening for him in Mobile, Alabama at the Soul Kitchen from like 2006.”
Beach Performances and Partying
14:00 to 15:00
Learn about the challenges of playing at the beach and party culture.
“Wait, you'd play under a tent on the beach?”
Epic Stories from the Beach
15:00 to 17:00
Hear wild party stories, including an arm-wrestling incident and its consequences.
“I was playing a show and I took a break and I go over on the side and these guys were like, man, you're a pretty big old boy.”
Hometown and Family Influences
17:00 to 20:00
Discover the significance of growing up in a small town and family bonds.
“He'd be like, it's$2, and next day it'll be$2.50, you know?”
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Grandpas and Life Lessons
20:00 to 23:10
Explore the impact of grandfathers and generational wisdom in songwriting.
“Yeah, my Grande Buford died in 2010, so he didn't really get to see me have any real success.”
Reflections on Work Ethic
23:10 to 24:10
Discuss the changing work ethic and the value of hard work in modern society.
“I mean, it's social media that's caused it.”
Technological Changes and Nostalgia
24:10 to 26:10
Examine how technology has changed perceptions and interactions through generations.
“There's like a handful of people that had money in my town.”
Humor in Southern Culture
26:10 to 28:00
Enjoy humorous anecdotes related to Southern culture and names.
“Dude, I remember, and I've told this story, but we had this lady, Miss Robin, and she was like our teacher.”
Childhood Memories and Shoe Trends
28:00 to 29:00
The hosts discuss childhood memories related to shoes and fashion trends.
“And then you go with what you're like, that's not for me.”
Introducing PrizePix and Its Features
29:00 to 30:16
A detailed introduction to PrizePix, its features, and promotional offer.
“We're about to get into a different gear now.”
Exploring MoonPay and AI Integration
30:24 to 31:35
Discussion on MoonPay's new AI features for crypto management.
“MoonPay is my go-to place to buy crypto.”
Desire for Learning and Absorbing Art
31:35 to 32:16
Riley Green shares his desire to learn more and absorb different art forms.
“I think, no, just consume more like different types of artists' work, right?”
The Challenges of Staying Current in Art
32:16 to 33:26
A conversation about the difficulty of consuming new music and art while being busy.
“I think I'm busy and don't pay attention to it like I used to.”
Reconnecting with the Past
33:26 to 34:11
Riley reflects on running into ex-girlfriends and the nostalgia of home.
“They got me one during COVID to do like Zooms and stuff.”
Funny Anecdote about Plant Confusion
34:11 to 35:47
Riley shares a humorous story about confusing hotel plants for new arrivals.
“Cause I'm sure you had a girlfriend at some point.”
The Origins of Moon Pie and Cultural Tidbits
35:47 to 38:12
The hosts discuss the history of Moon Pie and its cultural significance.
“and I called down I got back to my room it had been a long day I called down to the front and I said somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone.”
The Absurdity of Online Content
38:12 to 42:00
A discussion on the absurdity and truth of online content creation.
“What I've found is all you have to say before you say whatever you want is, get ready with me.”
Bar Fights and Their Dynamics
42:00 to 43:59
Explore the differences between bar fights and emotional reactions in fights.
“I feel like those are the people I like.”
Outfit Choices for Fights
44:00 to 47:53
Discusses the best clothing choices when preparing for a fight.
“What would you do if you were going to fight?”
Hunting Stories and Experiences
47:54 to 49:48
The hosts share humorous and interesting hunting experiences.
“Sweatsuits to the bar That's what I'm saying It's gotten pretty casual It is.”
The Complexity of Hunting Birds
49:49 to 56:00
Discussion on the various challenges and philosophies of hunting different birds.
“You think they're one of the best birds or not?”
History of Hunting and Food Choices
56:00 to 57:45
Explore the historical context of hunting and food selection in early America.
“He would put notes up at the church and see if people had any in their area.”
History of Hunting and Food Choices
58:54 to 59:49
Explore the historical context of hunting and food selection in early America.
“See site for details to Cova's Point Your Toes West.”
Riley Green's Career Insights
1:00:18 to 1:02:56
Riley Green discusses the pressures and evolution of his music career.
“let me see Raleigh's doing calls here what do you got an earpiece in or something how'd you know that we showed it a second ago Oh, that's how I start the show.”
Navigating Music Evolution and Authenticity
1:02:56 to 1:08:10
Examine how artists can evolve while maintaining authenticity in their music.
“When you go to a show and you've got a sold-out arena for your stand, they're excited you're there.”
The Role of Dogs in Culture
1:08:10 to 1:10:00
Discuss the historical relationship between dogs and Native Americans.
“if you're trying to play somebody else's.”
Curiosity About Native American Dogs
1:10:00 to 1:10:44
The hosts discuss the idea of dogs being Native American and explore historical breeds.
“Will you look up what would possess a person to think a dog was Native American?”
Exploring Native American Dog Breeds
1:10:44 to 1:13:03
Riley Green shares interesting facts about different Native American dog breeds.
“Yeah, I remember it, too, but I'm talking about real Native Americans.”
Thoughts on Acting and Preparation
1:13:03 to 1:14:25
Riley reflects on his acting experiences and the challenges of preparation while touring.
“I'm Riley Green with my guest, Theo Vaughn.”
The Nature of Achievement and Pride
1:14:25 to 1:18:40
The hosts discuss their feelings about achievements and what they take pride in.
“And two, how much preparation would that take?”
Living Spaces and Future Aspirations
1:18:40 to 1:21:09
Riley and Theo talk about their living situations and future family aspirations.
“So just to see a text or something, we got a beach house down there.”
Career Choices and Opportunities
1:21:09 to 1:24:01
The conversation shifts to the challenges of balancing career opportunities and personal life.
“You know, it's always what I've done so far is kind of work.”
Navigating Career Opportunities
1:24:01 to 1:25:10
Riley Green discusses the challenges and decisions in shaping his career.
“the last time I had a week off, you know, I mean, maybe around Christmas.”
The Unique Opportunity of The Voice
1:25:10 to 1:26:34
Riley reflects on the significance of being a coach on The Voice and its impact on his career.
“I mean, you've got to think there's one country music artist that's a coach on The Voice.”
Behind The Chair: The Blind Auditions
1:26:34 to 1:29:00
Discussion about the blind audition process and the dynamics of being a coach.
“Queen Latifah's on it with me, and she's iconically famous, you know.”
Nashville Freeze and Escaping to Hawaii
1:29:00 to 1:30:06
Riley shares a personal story about escaping a Nashville freeze by going to Hawaii.
“And I'm sitting here and I'm like, I don't want to say the same thing over and over again, but sometimes a lot of it is just nerves.”
Romantic Dinners and Light-Up Shoes
1:30:06 to 1:33:30
A humorous exchange about an unusual dinner experience and a whimsical shoe idea.
“Or her start making that back up, sounding like a big truck's back up.”
Fishing, Golfing, and the Essence of Fun
1:33:30 to 1:36:38
Riley and Theo discuss recreational activities that define country lifestyle.
“Well, I'm going to read some of it right here.”
The Importance of Saying Yes
1:36:38 to 1:38:00
Riley emphasizes the importance of seizing opportunities in the music industry.
“You came to my surprise party and you didn't even want to be there.”
Navigating Career Opportunities in Music
1:38:00 to 1:40:42
Explore how artists balance commercial appeal with artistic integrity.
“That's a talent to ask weird questions though to be able to come up with them.”
The Challenges of Touring
1:40:42 to 1:41:44
Discussion on the pros and cons of opening for larger acts vs. headlining.
“So I have to turn down some tours because I can make more money touring on my own.”
The Cowboy As It Gets Tour
1:41:44 to 1:45:44
Details about Riley Green's current tour and his musical collaborations.
“Right now you have the Cowboy As It Gets tour.”
Performing and Overcoming Stage Fright
1:45:44 to 1:47:54
Riley Green shares experiences and tips for performing live.
“If you just wait on the slide, it'll be easy.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Good energy in. Good energy out.
0:08Storm, zero sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine and immunity support. Storm, energy for life. You hear that dripping? Oh, that's good. We got a new merch drop, baby. That just went live. The Be Good to Yourself Scribble Tees. They sold out quick. So we brought them back. You guys like the design so much, we got socks on there to match. And we got the new Ratcon tees. They're available, them Ratcon tees in pepper and emerald. That and a lot more at TheovanStore.com. Thank you for the support. Thank you for being a part of our world. Today's guest is a country musician and songwriter from Jacksonville, Alabama.
0:53His new album, That's Just Me, is out September 18th. And he's currently on his Cowboy As It Gets tour. Just a reminder, you can watch video versions of our episodes on Spotify as well, if you didn't know that. I had a time with today's guest. I'm glad that he brought the humor, Mr. Riley Green.
1:32It's nice when I get home, too, to get on a bulldozer or something and go clear. Man, that's the most relaxing thing in the world. Is it? Yeah, get on a bulldozer and go out there and start clearing a road. Oh, yeah. And you don't realize how far you've been until you get off it to walk back to your car, you know? But it's just pushing trees over and clearing fields. God. Just, yeah. Except the animals are like, here comes, look, we love his music, but this guy's. Yeah, that's pretty fair. Of course, I'm making like a field I'm going to plant some food for, man. Okay. So, yeah. So, some of it's just rezoning for them.
2:03Yeah, that's all. Yeah. All it is just, yeah. It's like, look, guys. I'm not going to put a parking lot or a Kmart there. It's going to be like, you know, there's a field. Yeah. I'll leave them some shade trees. It's fine. Sorry, man. I'm acting like you're the bad guy. I was like, you made me the developer on Ferngully. It's like burning the woods down. Like, I'm not doing it. I'm making it nicer. Like, I dug a lake. Like, threw him somewhere for him to swim. Oh, really? Yeah, man. Oh, God, that'd be beautiful. You made me the man. Yeah, dude, I freaking, yeah, I made you the bad guy. You made me like the bad guy on the, what's the movie with the blue people?
2:36Avatar. Yeah, you made me that guy. It's like just destroying the forest. I'm like making it nicer for the animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're down there repurposing. Yeah, man, God, I got to get in prayer. I got to get in the word. I mean, what you got to do is get on a bulldozer. Yeah, you got to. Come down there and get on a tractor. You figure your life out down there doing that. Do you? Well, what do you do? What is your thing that you say is your biggest disconnect from all this? What do you do? I don't honestly. See, that's the problem. Right. I don't have an immediate answer. I would probably say, I would say probably working out and going for a walk, probably.
3:17Okay. Well, that's definitely one of them. But you're still thinking about it. You're still in it. You know what I mean? yeah I mean if I go for a walk with a good friend it's that's more like just kind of like contemplate and discuss and stuff but I agree having some having like it's time for me to kind of like uh find some other outlets and stuff you know and I just got off a tour and so that's like this is one of the first times where it's like well who am I you know what do I do with myself oh both of them who am I and what do I do with myself like you know not in a not in a whiny way but it just like kind of hit me like that it's like okay so it's time for me to like kind of embraced some of those.
3:51But just so people know, I think we started in, you said you have like, you guys got a couple thousand acres down there in Alabama? I bought, I've got 1 ,780 right now that all touches, but I bought it in like little pieces here. Every time I go down there, I'm calling my neighbors up, see if anybody wants to sell anything. But my granddaddy Buford's brother, my uncle Bill had some property that I grew up running around on. It was 141 acres and I bought that first. And then just since then I've grown it. And it's just a never ending project. I mean, out there, I'll go home, and it kind of keeps me sane on the road, too, because I'll be thinking about, man, when I get home, I'm going to take the D3 over here and clear this one field off or make this road around the outside of the property so I can go in here, or I'm going to dig a lake over here, so you're just constantly creative, because there's, I mean, everything you do is making the land more valuable, you know?
4:39And you have a crew that does that with you? My dad and his brother used to frame houses. My dad was a carpenter, and he's 70 now. So, I mean, they're both pretty old and kind of beat down. So I let them work around the farm and just, you know, run tractors and all that. And they love that kind of work. And I got a couple of buddies I used to do construction work with that helped me out out there. So there's always something going on. But when I get home, like, you know, when you get on a tractor like that, you don't have your phone. I mean, you forget about it, you know. And then going out there and you get caught up in what you're doing.
5:11And I've always enjoyed the kind of work where you can see what you did at the end of the day. I love that about construction work, but that's something you don't get in what we do like yeah there's a lot of accolades and big moments and highs out of it but as far as like what we do never has an end you're never finished with yeah what we're doing like there's a little thing she's okay well that went well check or go to the next thing but like being on tours you know my tour doesn't end we just tour till holidays get here and people stop coming to shows and we start back around february you know so it's nice to have something that you can finish.
5:43Amen. Yeah. Yeah. Having that justification, like just like looking back, seeing something the day is done to something, you know what I'm saying? Like that you can feel the evening coming in. You're like, okay, that's time. Yeah. I used to work on a, uh, on a soybean farm over there and, um, near like Vidalia, Louisiana, right over on the Louisiana, Mississippi border over there. And that was, those are some of the best days, man. It was tough work, but you like, I still go back in a frame a little bit with my buddy, build out just to remind myself what it was like. Yeah, dude. I just loved it.
6:12Whether they had me painting or just like moving seed or just like cleaning spray rigs, just whatever it was, man. There was just something like, yeah, there was something real rewarding about it. You could also, like I could be hungover or whatever it was and be having a bad day. I could get through a day at work doing that. But this, you have to be happy every day. You got to at least act like you are. Oh, yeah. You got to show up. I can't get on stage and, you know, be up. So I got to be enjoying myself because everybody's there to see me and they want to see that. So it's nice to be able to go over and kind of cut loose on something like that.
6:42Well, look, welcome to this podcast, dude, because I've spent probably a third of my life whining on this bitch about Stutt. I'll whine with you. Yeah. What do you want to complain about? Yeah, dude. I know one thing I'm going to complain about on this podcast. You don't have no coffee maker here. Oh, we don't have a coffee maker. I'm sending you one. I'm going to own it right here. You were in my kitchen. Yeah, you saw it. I don't have one. I looked through every closet in your house. There's not one here. I looked through all your stuff. Dude, look, I ain't making coffee in the closet. I'm not doing anything in the closet, dude.
7:09I'm out. Yeah. You're out. I like women. But yeah, the last thing I'd be doing in there, dude, if I'm in the closet so long that I'm making coffee in there. It's in a while, yeah. Yeah, I guess I'd be. But sometimes you have a tough time picking out an outfit or whatever. And I just say outfit. Let's keep it moving. Outfit, yeah. Shirt. Yeah. Picking out a shirt. It really is a shirt. What made you pick that one today? I tried on another one. I took it downstairs. It was just, it was a little, felt a little more formal. And then I was like. right i feel like that i see i took it like you wore that because i was coming well i appreciate it i feel this just felt right man yeah dude you remember i saw you uh good to see you man yeah see you man we're doing this interview backwards thanks for coming yeah yeah dude this is how it goes in here by the way i'm riley green yeah ladies and gentlemen riley green this past weekend um thanks for coming bro i appreciate it um dude i'm doing it for a while yeah we have been and This is good, man.
8:00And I saw you. Remember, I went to your surprise party. You remember that? Yeah, but I don't think you were invited. Technically. That's true, dude. Yeah. I think you came in and got a piece of cake and left, honestly, is what happened. Okay, that could be true. But I remember, though, like you weren't in a, I don't think a surprise party. I hated it. Yeah. I don't like surprises. Yeah. I always. Because I walked in. I don't know if it was your sister. Somebody's like, you know, sometimes over there at Losers, they'll be like, yeah, you know, it's a Raleigh surprise party. You know, we got to go.
8:30Don't say sometimes. Like, it happens a lot. That was one time that happened. That's a good point. That's a good point. Sometimes we're always having a surprise party. No, and it'll never happen again. But sometimes you'll be there, and they'll be like, this is going on there. So we got all. So people will make, like, the mecca or whatever, the journey over to your bar, which is right next door. Yeah, but you have to go in the back door. You have to sneak up the back. I'll come to the back. But you were heading in, so they're like, yeah, it's a surprise party. Don't say nothing. I'm like, I'm not saying nothing.
8:58and I don't even know him that good. And then we all walked in and people yelled surprise at you. People thought you did. You were at my surprise party. It was true. I thought you planned the whole thing. People thought I was in it, man. I'll give my management up. I said I picked out the cake. Yeah, it was great. I mean, you ate some of it. I took two pieces, huh? I took two pieces. Sounds right. Okay, this is no joke. You literally got invited to my surprise party last minute, walk in, take two pieces of cake, and leave. Yeah. That's what happened. Amen, brother. Yeah, that's cool. when we got in there I was like well shit if you don't even want to be at a surprise party then I'm gonna get my I'm gonna head on I just don't need to be surprised to enjoy something like for me I don't get to see my family and friends that often I'm traveling all the time so if you gathered everybody just tell me and we'll go over there and it's enough that they're there you know I give my manager a hard time because I won an ACM award in 2020 and they call me and they're like hey you need to do a zoom with the label and so I don't have the computer so I go over to their place and they got it all set up and there's my president, my label and the vice president, everybody and I'm like, what are we talking about?
10:06And then Keith Urban comes in and I was like, hey, Royley. I'm like, hey. He's like, you want to come to, what are you doing on August 8th or whatever? You want to come to the ACM Awards? I was like, yeah. And why's he asking you? Because he was the host, I guess. But my point is, why didn't they just tell me? And I could have been like, oh, like surprised. Then there was all these articles about how Rowley Green won an ACM Award and couldn't care less because I just was confused. so just get I can act surprised just tell me about it if you tell me 10 minutes early I'll just be like
10:39that was good I believe that you did? how you looked when I got here that's how you looked when I walked in what about me and you trying to schedule this it was really stressful for everybody involved everybody on my team is like so are you doing it I was like hell I don't know I think we just said we should do this Well, we were supposed to do it. Here's what was happening. We did. You and I decided we're going to do it. Yeah. Your schedule also got different because you now are heading out to LA because you're working on The Voice now. Yeah. So that started to happen. And then we were supposed to have Conor McGregor was supposed to be on.
11:10And there was this looming moment where it was like. You had to pick. No. Then you picked me. Okay. I didn't. His schedule was super tight. You can lie to me for the sake of the. Oh, I'd lie to you. Yeah. But I just didn't tell you the truth. It's just. Right now it's easier. Okay. But there's just like a lot of little moving parts. If he comes while I'm here, are you going to make me leave and come back another time? Yep. Maybe he'll bring coffee. Honestly, if he comes and realizes you don't have coffee, he might leave. Bro, I didn't know you said this much stuff. I always feel like you're kind of a quiet guy, man.
11:39That's my bad read on you, you know? I usually talk a lot when I got coffee. You know what I mean? I'll probably start fading here soon. What, uh, so you want me to do the interview? What, uh. No, I got things. Okay. I didn't know if you studied up or whatever. Oh, yeah, man. I studied up, dude. I got a good plan. Yeah, I got a strategy ahead of me. It's mild, but it is what it is. Well, listen, if you start to run out of stuff, just give me the, and I'll, you know what I mean? Yeah, dude. Yeah, if I need some help, I'm going to definitely, it'd be nice if I get a little help from Raleigh Green.
12:12Everything's good? Everything's pretty good, man. What was I doing this morning? I was texting with John Pardy this morning. I like that dude. He's going out on tour. He's an interesting guy, isn't he? I've been a big fan of him for a long time Unique voice Like his everything Just kind of like an interesting guy I've always used him as an example When I signed a record deal And started having songs on the radio I think the toughest thing to do Is to be commercial enough That radio will play it And then also still Unique and cool enough That it's a good song And not just cheesy He's always done a good job of that He's had a lot of A lot of big songs Agreed man Yeah he's an authentic dude man And he's just Oh man I didn't know you put pictures up People were talking about him He's an interesting guy.
12:51I've got a picture of me opening for him in Mobile, Alabama at the Soul Kitchen from like 2006. Is that where you started over there? I know you started in Alabama, but at the Soul Kitchen, is that a popular spot? I'm not familiar with it. It's on Dolphin Street. I mean, yeah, it was like one of the clubs you come up playing. Got it. It was a big deal for me to play it. I opened for Chris Cagle there, Corey Smith there, John Party, several people. And then eventually I got where I was headlining it and then moved to the Sanger and then went down and played at the Floribama. That singer's nice over there.
13:20It is cool, yeah. Yeah. You played at Floribama during spring break times? I played Floribama forever. $150 a show, played for four hours. You get one free drink per break. And you play 45 minutes at a time. And I remember John McGinnis that owns the Floribama is a good buddy of mine, and he asked me to come down and play during spring break every day for three weeks. It was like Alabama spring break one week, LSU one week. LSU folks love it up there. Oh, they love it. Anywhere, dude. It's true. Anywhere where something is fermented enough where they can make alcohol out of it. It's fermented down there.
13:56They love it. I had to set my own tent up on the beach. And it was like I'd be in the shade for about an hour and then I'd have to move it. Nobody down there listened to me. I played every day from 12 to 4. Wait, you'd play under a tent on the beach? Like a tent you camp with, like a tailgating tent. And I had to set my own speakers up and everything. I played from 12 to 4 every day. And then I would go back to the river house across the road where they would keep the bands. bands would come in and play that night, and I would go party with them. And I did that every day for three weeks, and it about killed me.
14:24Damn. Definitely took 10 years off my life. Playing that early shift. Well, yeah, and then staying up all night, too. I would, like, mosey down to the beach and get there in time to play at noon the next day. Oh, I'd be partying down there, dude. Oh, I remember partying down there. We buried a guy in the sand. I don't know if he's... Still there? I don't know. I haven't heard from him. Kind of Weekend at Bernie situation? I mean, look, dude, I'll say this. He wasn't that great of a guy anyway, to be honest with you. And I'll know that, daddy that. But, yeah, we've had some, I mean, who didn't have some time down there?
14:53There's some pretty epic stories down there. I broke a guy's arm one time, arm wrestling in the floor bound. For what? Just for fun or for money? No, I mean, I didn't do it on purpose. And I wasn't for money. I was playing a show and I took a break and I go over on the side and these guys were like, man, you're a pretty big old boy. Let's arm wrestle. That's, for whatever reason, that's what we grew up doing. Yeah. My dad and his brother and all them. And I beat two or three guys and they were like, man we're gonna get somebody to and they brought this dude over he was probably 40 you know and he's all jacked up and somebody videoed it and his arm just snapped oh yeah was that a popular video that went around I'm trying to think I don't even remember singing that I mean like we can show you right now right let me see oh there you go you gotta listen to it though oh come on you gotta have the sound up three two one oh oh my god stop dude that's enough man sorry How'd he find that so fast?
15:47Huh? I don't know, bro. We got it. It's on the internet. Oh my God, dude. Yeah. I love that movie, Over the Top, you know? Yeah. He turned his hat around and he was serious about it. Oh, that was a movie. I forgot about that film, man. That was a good one. You mentioned John Party. What about Red Clay Strays? Did you come up around them? They were always out and about. No, they were a little bit. I mean, I was already here, I guess, by the time they were kind of touring around Alabama. But it's always a good sign when you hear somebody's name and then you keep hearing it over and over again before they've gotten to a place where they're really recognized, you know, on radio and award shows and all that.
16:21Now it's awesome because they've made it there. Yeah. They're winning awards and what a cool thing. The town that you grew up in, what was it? How big was it? Jacksonville, I know it. I don't know how many people. I mean, there's a college there. When the college was in, I think it was around 8 ,000 when I was going to school. What college was it? Jacksonville State. Yeah. But it was a really small town, but school wasn't in it. And I grew up in a community right outside of there called Pleasant Valley in Williams Community. And this one flashing light, one store called Green Store, E.L. Green runs the store.
16:57He's 94 years old. Still there? Doesn't charge tax. Yeah, he just guesses what everything costs. Oh, I love that. He'd bring the Snickers up there. He'd be like, it's$2, and next day it'll be$2.50, you know? But all my granddaddies and their brothers used to go out and play dominoes in the morning for work. We'd stop in there. Oh, that's cool. Hadn't changed much either. Look at that. There's E.L. right there. I got a picture of him. So was he related to you? Probably. Look at this dude. Probably. That guy's a legend. No way. That's him. I saw him yesterday. Dang, I want to go see him. Come on.
17:26My dad said they bought their basketball shoes there. They played in Converse All-Stars. He sells Converse All-Stars. Those shoes are horrible to play in. Oh, it's like begging to break your ankle. And you slide. You just slide everywhere. I don't know how they did it. They must use a different type of, maybe some type of turpentine. I'll tell you what old Benny the Jet Rodriguez using things, though. You know who that is? Uh-uh. Remember on Sandlot, the guy that jumped the fence? Oh, yeah. He put those black ones. There he is. What did he put on? Man, this, hey, your man is quick. He's crushing today.
17:57This is easy to do an interview like this. Oh, he's doing it. You just say anything. Oh, yeah, look at those. What are those? What were those? Something flyers or something? PF flyers. PF flyers, bro. PF flyers were a real shoe. No doubt. We had those ones that would, remember when those shoes came out that would blink or whatever? You're talking about light-up shoes? Yeah, and everybody would just call you like a queer all the time. Did they say that? What? Yeah. Why would they say that? I don't know, because your shoes were dang blinking. I get it a little bit. Or people are like, your feet are gay or whatever.
18:27Well, I don't guess I had any. Those were probably expensive shoes. My parents wouldn't buy me those. Were your parents, what were they like? Growing up pretty strict over there? What was it like? I mean, it sounds like just a good small-town environment. It sounds like a real kind of American Southern environment. Yeah, there's a lot about where I grew up that kind of looks like a movie, like going back in time. I'll bring people down there and they'll be like, man, it's really like this. My dad built houses. My mom was a school teacher. I never got away with anything. Mom caught me anything I ever did.
18:57Pops built houses for a living, and I used to go out and work with him, and I wasn't playing ball, so I tried to play any sport I could to keep from having to work. I was really lucky. All four of my grandparents lived in the same town, so I saw my grandparents every day, so I was really close with all them. That's awesome, man. Yeah. And do you think that's what led you to writing Grandpa's Never Die? That's just a lot of influence of why Grandpa's Never Die. My granddaddy Buford loved country music. He'd sit around with the old headphone guitar when I was a kid, and we'd sit around and kind of play.
19:27And we ended up turning his parents' house, my great-grandparents, into a music hall. And on Friday nights, all these old people would come out there and play and tell jokes, and I'd sit around and watch how they made chords and learn how to play like that. But, yeah, that's my granddaddy Buford and my granddaddy Linden. was a big fisherman, golfer, so I'd hang out with them every day. I wrote the song about them as a tribute, and then, of course, it became a big hit for me. I ended up putting both of them as co-writers on the song. Dude, that's awesome. I got songwriter credit for it. Bro, they must have felt, I mean, they must be so proud, huh?
20:01Yeah, my Grande Buford died in 2010, so he didn't really get to see me have any real success. I was kind of starting out with music, but my Grande Linden got to come see me at the Opry. My grandmother Nancy did. My grandmother, Lola Jean, is still alive, so she's probably cutting grass right now. She loves it. That's awesome. Yeah, man, I definitely miss things about that at home, man. Dude, what if grandpas never did die? You ever think about that? Because there would be some side effects of it. There would obviously... Okay, so everything in that song, there are side effects, too. If every road was named Copperhead, it'd be really hard to get anywhere.
20:38Right. Really confusing, you know? Yeah, that's a good point. Coolers never ran out of beer. People would alcohol poison. Yeah, people would be, yeah, and then they'd be out on the roads. High school home teams never lost. Everybody would be 500 at the end of the season, you know? Yeah. So there are problems. Like, if you want to just pick apart the songs that I write, we can. No, I'm not picking it off, man. I'm just saying. I wish Grandpa's Never Died. Yeah. First of all, it's one of my favorite songs. Thank you. And second of all, but no, I do think, like, yeah, if they never died, first of all, what would never, Inheritance would never start.
21:06That'd piss some people off. Yeah, but only people with rich grandpas. Right. Because, I mean, I, you know. But even if you had a shitty grandpa, if he had$50, you knew you was getting a little waterfall. Yeah, but grandpas always give you a little walking around money. A lot of them, but that other pocket. Some of them, my grandpa only reached into one of his pockets, and I knew in that other pocket. That's where it was. Oh, that's where it was. Yeah, my granddaddy always had a$2 bill that had. Yeah, that was popular. Had a picture of Bill Clinton blowing a whistle on it. Oh, yeah. So it was not real.
21:31But he'd give me that a lot. But he'd give you that? Yeah. That's a good idea, giving fake money to children. Yeah. Well, you know, it keeps them out of trouble. yeah that's a good point yeah yeah what if grandpa's trying to think of just some other interesting facts okay if grandpa's never died just like if they never died um so a positive i think would be the the things that i do miss about that generation was like they were hard workers yeah you know i always say i was kind of the last generation like work with my dad like my buddies didn't but like you know now i mean i don't know that people get out of high school and college and really have to bust it anywhere.
22:11You know, there's a certain amount of like work ethic that's lost a little bit. Well, yeah, I think, and also a lot of the trades. I mean, one thing, like we've had Mike Rowe in here a few times, and he talks a lot about how there's not enough viable tradesmen right now. Like there's jobs. There's just not people that can fill them that have the skill sets, you know? Yeah, we could be working and we're just talking. Yeah. You know? Also, I thought Mike Rowe lived in my house for most of my childhood. My dad watched Dirty Jobs and Deadliest Catch every day. Oh, dude, that guy. Yeah, listen to his voice.
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22:41It makes you feel like you've got to fill out a job application. Every time I hear Mike Rowe's voice, I'll fill one out online. Yeah. Or I'll buy a second QuickCrete or something. Just in case. Yeah, I just feel like something could happen. See, that's what I'm talking about, though. You go down to Alabama, and you get up, and you're like, man, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to build a little pen and buy some goats. And then you just go to the store and buy. You make a list. You make it happen. And then you go and you dig the holes and like, you're not thinking about anything else when you do that.
23:11Yeah. Oh, dude, I think there's like, I do think with society, sometimes we took a very errant path out into like existence, you know, like this, like, you know, and I think there also became like a greed, you know, there's a greed has a lot to do with that. I think when somebody wants to keep leveling up, you know, so, but I think, I think we'll, we will look back at some point or generations in the future will look back and be like, man, we were missing out on a lot of the things in life that really mean something, you know? Well, yeah. I mean, it's social media that's caused it. The, the amount of comparison you have to somebody else.
23:45Also, let's talk about how me and you were talking like a couple of grandpas now about the younger generation. Like, man, these kids now, they don't, they don't know, man. They don't know what it was like, you know? I mean, when I was growing up, I had a phone, it didn't do anything. You could call. If you wanted to send a K, you had to press six, seven times. You know, like it was tough. And I didn't have social media or anything. And now all they've known is, and I remember people I thought were rich growing up. Oh, yeah. But now everybody seems rich. There's like a handful of people that had money in my town.
24:15I was like, man, that's big time, you know? Oh, dude, if somebody had a garage, dude, we had this one kid, Jeremy, and he - It's always Jeremy. He got a garage. and we were like, look at this mother. You know, we couldn't believe it. But then, dude, two days later, we're over there just doing the door up and down and running back and forth. Oh, it had an automatic door? Yeah. Oh, that's wild. He got the real deal, dude. But yeah, man. Dude, what was I reading the other day? The first 911 call was in Alabama. Did you know that? Domestic dispute? It could have been domestic. I think it was two people fighting over a baked bean recipe probably.
24:53I mean, I don't know. And I bet they didn't get it. You know what I mean? If they're sealed down there, brother. Try to get a recipe in Alabama, I dare you. The government wouldn't unseal it. That's hilarious. Not on our watch. Hayleyville, Alabama, 1968. There you go. The very first - We started it. We launched the standard across the United States. I don't know if that's good or bad. Things were kind of getting a little rocky down there. Like, look, we've got to figure out a way to get help over here quicker. Or it could have been, dude, it could have been just, look, somebody's like, Like, you know, there is a guy over here just hugging his sister in like a, in the worst way.
25:29Nice. You know? I mean, there's just, hey, yes, officer, there is a man over here. I mean, and he is just hugging his sister. Yeah, I mean. I just don't know what that, I mean, that 911 call could have been anything, you know? Honestly, what would that hug have to look like? You're sitting over there just crushing the heater. Yeah. In Walmart parking lot, you see somebody hugging, you know, their brother and sister, you go, that's a little too long. Honey, give me the phone. I'm going to call this in. It'd be out of town if they'd call it in, I'll tell you that. Yeah, it would be. And it wouldn't be somebody from Louisiana.
26:01I'll go ahead and tell you that, too. Louisiana, Mississippi is not making that call. They'd be like, hey, these people are stealing our style. That's what they would say, bro. They're stealing our vibes. Just smoking a cigarette, holding a baby. Yeah. Oh, God. Dude, I remember, and I've told this story, but we had this lady, Miss Robin, and she was like our teacher. She was like our - She sounds like a teacher, Miss Robin. Oh, yeah. could call and she was uh damn cooking me today man uh and she would uh well the other kids would do nap time right but i didn't really believe in nap time i just i wanted to get busy and get at it yeah i got that i was ready to get to work i was probably like that yeah even as a kid i was like what are we fucking doing we're barely nobody's doing shit we got to take a break from that you get old and realize nap time was for them not for you oh you know what i mean that was their break lay down for a little while yeah you need a nap you know what i mean yeah i'm gonna hit this heater and that's what she would do though miss robin though she knew i didn't sleep and we had similar hair and so she would come and kind of hit me with her foot and that meant i could go outside and she would and uh she'd light up a cigarette and um and i would just lean on her car tire and she would just tell me about smoke and look at you yeah just she was just just and she would just telling me stuff about her husband or something, Roger, and he wasn't doing shit.
27:20Most Rogers aren't. Yeah. I think all, dude. Hey, listen to this. This always bothers me. I don't know why I got the laughs today, but I'm glad I do, man. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for having me. We'll get some coffee coming shortly. You know what bothers me? What bothers you, Riley? Because I bet it's a lot. Well, one thing that really bothers me a lot, how do you look at a baby and name it Roger? Yeah. you know what I mean yeah like my granddaddy's name was Buford how did you look at a baby and say that's Buford that's Buford right there you know what I mean but in the south and then like think about your playing with the kid when he was like 10 and you're another kid you're like Buford get over here like that's wild yeah we had a fella named Fremont by us and people thought he was rich or whatever or gay just cause his name was like real high end rich or gay people thought one of the two did his shoes light up did they roll oh those wheelie shoes those are the best I mean you saw a kid doing that that was a little after my generation I feel like I don't know if we had those I would see kids have those they had the Reebok pumps remember those people would pump those shoes I like the Reebok I feel like I've always judged my shoes and clothing as in like would the version of me that doesn't wear that kick the ass with the version that did you know what I mean wait say it one more time so like the version of me that wears wheelie shoes would get his ass beat by the version that didn't.
28:45You know what I mean? That's why I make decisions in life. And then you go with what you're like, that's not for me. Yeah. Got it. What's one of the best or worst bar fights you ever saw out there? Yeah, for sure. Hell yeah. We're about to get into a different gear now.
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32:06I think, no, just consume more like different types of artists' work, right? Different films. Just absorb more stuff. So it's like I have more things to like think about and talk about. Well, I can comprehend that. You're probably like me in that I don't listen to as much new music as I used to before I got in this world, not necessarily because I'm burnt out on it and not really because I'm like I don't want to get, you know, drawn to something that's going to influence me to be like that. I just, I don't know. I think I'm busy and don't pay attention to it like I used to. I don't have a passion for it like I did.
32:37But, I mean, you don't probably watch a lot of stand-up. I mean, isn't it weird that you get removed from it when you're in it? I feel that way with me. That's a good point. Yeah, you think you're in it, so you'd be in more of it. You just got so much of your own stuff you got to be concerned with. I don't, yeah. There's a lot that goes into it, especially once you get to touring. And like with podcasts, I'll sit and watch through every single episode. Like I was up last night till probably, you know, 11. Watching yours. Putting notes on an episode. Like giving notes and like, you know, stuff.
33:08And like, because sometimes we'll say stuff where it's like, oh, we can't leave that in. You know, we just can't. Like sometimes we'll say stuff that's slander. That's like, you know, it's like you got to check through or send it to an attorney. Like there's just different things you got to do now. And so, yeah, there's a lot of, I think there's a lot that goes into that. Did I hear you say that you don't have a computer? No. I mean, I certainly didn't. They got me one during COVID to do like Zooms and stuff. And I remember my managers had me set up on this Zoom interview with a radio station.
33:38They were asking me to go to like speed.com or something and see what my bandwidth was. And I didn't have internet at my house. And they couldn't believe that. Damn. Yeah. When I go home, it's a disconnect from it, you know? Yeah. Except I do like photo shoots or interviews or something down there. You know, it's nice. I've started steering people that way because every time I did a shoot, we'd like rent an old truck. We'd go out to some farm somewhere and stand in front of a bunch of cows. I'm like, man, I got all that in Alabama. Let's just do it down there. Yeah. Do you have, do you run in a lot of like ex-girlfriends and stuff around home?
34:11What's that, what's that energy like? Cause I'm sure you had a girlfriend at some point. At some point I've had a girlfriend. Yeah. It's a, I'm glad you brought that up. Uh, cause you seem like a guy that's, yeah. That would have a girlfriend at some point in his life. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You're right about that. Uh, thank you and we just had to switch our coffee into some different cups that was for the people watching yeah okay dude and yeah so you just said something that's kind of interesting it's Tony's cup oh Tony hell yeah hope he's hope he's good yeah Vivian's cup well Tony used to drink he'd pass HIV had but we washed it not a lot he didn't have the big case he had something light but a lethal case all the same he caught it in the spring yeah you know so you don't get the hey, you catch that winter hiv, baby, it'll climb up your legs.
35:01Starts with the toe. Yeah, and then it comes looking for you, dude. Sorry to get that. What a horrible thing to talk about. It is. We're joking, obviously. No, no, yeah, I know. People haven't figured that out by now. They thought we were being serious when you explained the coffee thing. That seems like something a serious podcaster would do. Well, you have to remember that some people can't see it. Some people just listen. Half of our audience is just listeners. Oh, you're going to want to watch this one. so so yeah half our audience is just listeners so it's like you gotta kind of explain stuff sometimes it's like we just do a cut and we swap chairs and I'm like hey we're right back we had to swap chairs you know what I mean yeah yeah you gotta we had to move this plant different plant in here dude one time I got so high in taking pot in California yes I was absorbed I was doing yeah I was smoking weed and I called down I got back to my room it had been a long day I called down to the front and I said somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone.
36:00And they're like, excuse me? And they're like, I said, somebody. There's a bunch of big plants in there. I said, somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone. And they came up, and it was just the regular plants. I'd been in this room for a week, and I just had never really noticed them, I guess. Okay, that's really fun for me because I had a thing. When I first got a tour bus, I'd been touring for several years. I was driving to shows or whatever, so it was such a big, that was a huge moment. Oh, that's a relief. And I took a buddy of mine out on the road with me to kind of help me, you know, whatever he was doing, assistant, whatever you want to call it.
36:28And I had this thing where when I was drinking, I would take all the plants from the lobby of a hotel and put them in my room. And when I say we got a bus, I was just, I was partying back then. You know, I got after it. So as I say. Yeah. And I don't know where that came from. I never wanted to steal anything. And I would always take it back. But my room would just look like a jungle. I would take any potted plant I could get, furniture from down there. Just wheel them in. Now, how would you guys get them in there? We just, I'd just go to the downstairs and pick them up and kind of like, you know, you'd see on like cartoons where they walked behind the thing, like it was covering them, you know?
37:01Yeah. It was a real silly thing. I remember being in Mobile. We played Mardi Gras down there, which is where Mardi Gras originated, by the way. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Yeah. And somebody asked for, somebody probably called 911 because shit was getting weird down there. It does do that. At that first time. Get here with the Moon Pie down there. Yeah. But Moon Pie started down there, didn't they? Where did Moon Pie start? I don't know if Moon Pie started. Here we go. Where'd they start? Before you move on, we're going to hold that thought. Tennessee. Let's go. Chattanooga. Wow. The Windy City. The Moon Pie originated in 1917 at the Chattanooga Bakery in Tennessee.
37:34You know Mountain Dew started in Tennessee. Did you know Appalachian coal miners wanted a snack in their lunch pails, and that was how it started? God, I'd love that. Wouldn't you love that? You've been in a mine all day. They requested a filling tree as big as the moon. Did they really? I just knew that. I didn't read that. They requested a filling treat as big as the moon. That's why it's called a moon pie. Who wrote this? You know there's made-up stuff on the internet? Did you know that? I figured that out the last couple of years. People can just say whatever they want and put it on the internet.
38:09Yeah, we never figured that out. We'll just look it up and say it. Yeah. We don't really test anything out here. Well, you can just say whatever. Oh, nowadays you can say whatever. What I've found is all you have to say before you say whatever you want is, get ready with me. if you say get ready with me you can say whatever you want after that doesn't have to be true I found that out did you see that? there's videos they'll say get ready with me and they just make up stuff well it's gotten bad too it's like get ready with me for my nephew's funeral or whatever and I'm like what? why is that dude?
38:37you know it's like or they're like oh get ready for me while I cheat on my spouse or whatever and sometimes it's just like this shit is not helpful to people well hold on a second no you're right but there is a world where a get ready with me Like, if you did it, to go do something, that'd be interesting. I mean, you might be putting makeup on. Like, the actual get ready part's going to be pretty slow. Right. You're going to be putting your clothes on. Right. But explaining where you're going. Yeah, saying where I'm going, get ready with me, guys. Do they do, like, to go fishing? That'd be good.
39:09Get ready with me to go fishing. And then talk about what lures you're going to take and stuff. Oh, yeah. Talk about my rigs or whatever. Let's do a good old boy, get ready with me. That's not a... I like that. That's not a bad idea. It's not a great idea. It's not a great idea. It's not going to, we're not going to get an endorsement deal. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Who would watch it though? Swim bait. You'll get a lot of women watching it, dude. I think. Yeah. And I'll get their friends, you know? That's right. And that's fine. I think that's okay with me, dude. You know, I just thought of it.
39:36You kind of remind me of Brink. Who is it? You know the movie Brink? Uh-uh. Bring it up. Maybe it's a combination of the good guy and the bad guy. Ooh. You see what I mean? those two guys together, that's kind of... That's a man on the right? Yeah, and he's the bad guy. Man, look, immediate hate when I look at him for me because of the movie. Oh, because you saw this movie. Yeah, but I think there was a little redemption at the end. I think he helped somebody up after you pushed him down or something. Brink. Yeah. I can't believe you haven't seen that. I don't know this actor. Sorry, dude. I did it.
40:12This guy does look also a little bit feminine in this section, in this image because he's wearing a neck. I think the necklace has a woman. It's the lips. Yeah, never mind. It's a great point. The guy definitely looks kind of feminine in this. Yeah, you don't have to tiptoe around that. Yeah, I don't have to apologize. Dude, yeah. He's going to be way more offended if he wears light-up shoes than what you just said about him looking feminine, I promise you. That dude will do a get ready with me, I feel like. And this character would do a get ready with me. That's fair to say. 100%. Okay, good.
40:41Okay, good. 100%. That's what I feel like. But yeah, dude, that's got to be wild. I mean, like, I can't forget what we've been talking about. That's okay. Okay, this is what this whole... Okay, that's what this is? Yeah, I've been doing that for 10 years. Cool. It seems like we start somewhere. We'll get somewhere. But it's rubbing off on me. I did the Brink thing, and I don't know what we're talking about before that. That's okay, dude. I'll tell you this. You've done a great job of just being yourself, managing things well, staying in control, confidence, and a lot of good humor. I didn't even expect it.
41:09I was working on posture. I was hoping that was going to come. That's not really there. Dude, you want some good posture? I'll tell you where to go. You're a funny guy, man. I'm all right. Today, I'm okay today. it's contagious man being around funny people do you feel like totally honestly do you feel like like if I showed up at a music place I would feel like you know I would sit there wishing I could do music if you show up to a place where there is a comedy do you feel like you have to be a funny guy no no but I think everybody wants to be funny do you that's a good question I think so I mean right huh I feel like funny is probably the the quickest way for somebody to like you.
41:49That's fair. Because, you know, when you see somebody, especially somebody that's famous, you see somebody that's famous, you're thinking, oh, he's probably a jerk. You know, he's probably... That is people's first thought. If you're a little self-deprecating, you kind of cut up, oh, man, he doesn't take himself too seriously. I feel like those are the people I like. Do you feel like people think that about you ever? Like, probably, especially, if you're also a handsomer guy and a popular guy, people probably need to be a harder time about it. You need to be real funny is what you need to do. Yeah.
42:16You know? Yeah, you got to be real funny. Word of the wise. Did you, yeah, what was one of the best bar fights on there? Did you tell me that? I don't know if I asked you that. No, we went into a completely different rant after that. It's always girls. Girl fights are always way more serious than guy fights, I feel like. You know? And I'm always surprised, too, at the song they get in a fight during. One of your songs? Well, there's been a couple of videos I've seen of people, like, getting in a fight, during, oh, his grandpa's never died. Or I got a song called Jesus Saves. You know? And like, that's a, like, how do you emotionally go to blows?
42:57Right, like Jesus saves, but he better not save that bitch, you know? Yeah. And somebody just comes across and just, and the craziest part, people sometimes that are fighting, like already will be in like a cast or something, in an arm cast or something. That's the kind of shit I don't get. Yeah, like they just got out of a fight to come. Like they just got out of a fight And now they're just Well you know I will venture to say this I bet you the people That fight at bars Or concerts Probably do it often Habitual You know what I mean Those are the ones It's probably not a lot of people It's a handful of them That are just They keep doing it I had buddies growing up That liked fighting Yeah You know they're like That was They go to the bar Like they were gonna get in a fight Right I feel like I got goofier You know what I mean I was always like Take my clothes off Or like jump in a lake Or something like that you know I don't right instead of the fighting guy yeah I don't yeah like get ready with me while I go fight or whatever like that would be put an eye black on I'm about to go kick somebody's ass I'm about to go to a concert and fight somebody I've never met for no reason get ready okay now I'd watch that during Jesus saves get ready with me while I beat somebody's ass also what would you wear if you were going to get in a fight think about that you get dressed for a lot of things knowing that there's a potentially maybe you meet a girl that's a good question so you put on something maybe a girl would like I know what I mean or maybe you're gonna be It's going to be hot.
44:14Well, let me tell you. It's going to be comfortable. I'll tell you right now. What would you do if you were going to fight? It's a great question. Thank you. Boots would look intimidating, but they wouldn't be as good for a fight as tennis shoes would. I agree. Roller shoes would not be good. Light-up shoes might distract. But roller shoes might be good, say, if you're on a hill, hit the guy, and then you just activate them, and you roll right downhill, and you're home. You're back at the house. You know, if you had a strategy like that. No, that would be good if you were going to run from a fight.
44:37If you were going to try to escape a fight. Like you think somebody's going to kick your ass at this place you're going and wear roller shoes. Yes. I got to go. I'm out. Yeah. And like you ain't leaving and you're like, watch this. Watch this. You just lift the front of your feet up. That's what I'm saying. But like no other part of your body has to move and you just look back and your hair is just flowing and you just – that's cool. Honestly, I changed my opinion about this. That would be nice. But yeah, dude, there's some chick out there. She's in an arm cast or whatever and she has a dog. She says she does, but it's been taken or whatever.
45:04It's gotten by CPS. Is it Child Protective Services? It is. They take dogs? Huh? They take dogs? Oh, yeah, they will. I mean, if you're not being a good. So she says she has a dog, but it's gone. Yes. She's got a cast. Yes, she's got a cast. Or I feel like I'm there now. And she's like, get ready with me while I go over there. I'm getting my dog back. Yeah, over to Snooker's Tavern or whatever, and I'm beating somebody's ass after dinner tonight. Yeah. And then she probably puts on nice earrings. Yeah, I guess it is. Just so you can take them out. Yes. Because that's intimidation right there. That's a move, dude.
45:37Think about it. Police Honestly I wish Yeah I wish I had them Just for Were you ever wearing Think about this Did you ever have your ears pierced Me and you in the bar And we just Disgruntled You know I mean We're just disagreement I don't know what it is I can't even imagine Cause we're good old boys But let's just say we We're not about it Same girl or something Yeah And we're like about to go down Like are we doing this And you're like Hell yeah And I just And we're gonna fight each other Yeah I mean wouldn't they do something for you Same girl you're going to get her. No, no, no. And no judgment or anything, but you're going to get her.
46:11I would rather be like, you're going to get her. Okay, but this is just a pretend thing. Okay, it's just a pretend thing. Sorry. You know what I mean? Okay. You're mad at me. Okay, and then you take your earrings out? I'm like, oh, shit, he means it. I guess it's about to go down. Yeah, he don't ever take his earrings out. You know, he didn't even take them out when we went on the water slide after, you know, senior year or whatever. See, now it makes it hard for us to be in a fight because we were hanging out senior year on a water slide. That's a good point. but you didn't take earrings out then dude if you're taking them out now you're here to beat some ass yeah huh yeah dude I think if I got in a fight I thought about this now I would wear a nice suit cause the story after would be like man you see that dude in that suit beat that guy's ass he beat his ass in a suit yeah that's cool and then he went to work probably and then he went to work see I was picturing like a wedding suit like a tuxedo but you're talking about like a suit like you work on Wall Street I'm talking business suit yeah Or just work on any street.
47:06Like some people, you know, people used to get dressed up a lot more than they do now. Think about that. Think about the fact that on a daily basis. Every day. People would get, like, people took a, like a, there was a lot more, I think, care and concern about how they looked. Bring up some images of people, how they dressed, say, 70 years ago. I didn't grow up around that. Well, not for us. I'm talking about maybe two generations earlier. Oh, yeah, like in the city or something. Yeah, I mean. I feel like a person that dressed nice Who had a nice job when I was growing up Was like the bank president And he just wore a polo shirt with khakis My mom wouldn't let me wear that to church That was fancy then Oh yeah But look at people dressed I think snazzy Do you think that's true?
47:51Maybe I'm just kind of romanticizing it Well I will go along with the whole Sweatsuits to the bar That's what I'm saying It's gotten pretty casual It is. Like, there's like, dude, there's even men's shoes at ALO, at ALO or whatever it's called, ALO. And it's crazy now. We're so dumb. It's ALO, and I don't even know how to say it. What is it? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I agree, dude. What is it? ALO. But, yeah, I'm just trying to think. Was there a bar fight that stood out to you over there?
48:27Like, is there one that stood out? because that much time at Floor Mammon, dude, that's a lot. So Floor Mammon was always a place you could get your stomach pump. I never saw a lot of feist down there, yeah. You could get your stomach pump, and you could get a lot of splinters. It used to be a place you'd get a lot of splinters at. You could, yeah. Like everybody in that bitch had a splinter, dude. If people were doing the stanky leg, 40 people would get a damn splinter in there. There's a vibe about that place that's very – you know, beach bars, too. We got a little more like Jimmy Buffett laid back.
48:51Let's all get along, have a good time. It's on the bop top. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, that's good stuff. It really is. I do remember oddly enough I was in Louisiana I played at the Texas Club down in Baton Rouge Baton Rouge yeah and I remember I was about to sign a record deal I had somebody from a label down there and I was horribly sick like threw up for the show like just trying to get through it it was one of the worst right before show sickness I've had and somebody got in a fight during the last song and I was like hey knock it out and I couldn't get their attention they were still like going at it so they were close to the front I took my guitar off and I poked the guy in the back and I was like hey let me play one more song and then we'll all go out back and just beat the shit out of each other and everybody just cheered the two dudes were like high-fiving and then we went through and got the song done oh that's great yeah that's what people because some people just want to plan you know some people just don't know how to they're like well I guess we'll fight now and it's like yeah you come along with a little bit of strategy for people there some people will follow suit when a leader shows up people will follow that's what's kind of wild sometimes you know even in an instance like that I think well it's a little bit of like you go at somebody in a high situation with a little calmness too okay listen you don't want to fight we can do it it's fine I got this one more song let me play this song and then back to the fight and they're like oh that's reasonable just be reasonable yeah be reasonable dude what was I looking at oh I saw you you do a good bit of hunting there do you hunt out on your property out there in Alabama I do a lot of turkey hunting out there.
50:24I usually go up north deer hunting. What do you think about turkeys? I think about them a lot. You think they're one of the best birds or not? We had Steve Rinello on here. No. He loves them. I mean, the best bird to just in general. Steve Rinello gave them top bird, he said. For what? Like, what stipulations are you going by? They don't fly that good. Yeah. Look, I agree with you. What I'm saying is he said they were the best bird, and I said, well, look, Steve. I begrudgingly kind of supported him because he was going through it when he said it. For just because we're so close to. And there he is with one right there.
50:57Oh, he loves him so much. That one looks dead. He's got to be talking about hunting birds. Like I would think like an eagle's an easy win for best bird. Trevin, what do you think he said? He said that bald eagles, despite being America's bird, they're scavengers. Whereas turkeys are highly intelligent. Their heads change color based on their mood. They do that? Yeah. So he was all about it. Yeah. But then he's also deceasing them. So that's kind of an interesting concept. But he learned - Turkey's the most challenging bird to hunt. Yeah? By far, yeah. I hunted turkeys for two or three years before I even got close to killing one.
51:33Really? Yeah, my dad didn't hunt. I kind of just taught myself how I was interested in it. Yeah, like they're tough, especially down on those eastern birds down there. They're tough, man. We went and hunted some Osceolas down in - Florida? Yeah. Yeah. And it was interesting, dude. It's a little different down there. So it's flat. you're hunting in the hills and mountains, you know, you got a bird that's calling, you're calling to him, you think he's right there, but he's two ridges over, he's not, you know what I mean? You got to know how the land lays and you think he's going to pop right over top of the hill and he walks around the side and spots you before you see him, it's tough.
52:05Yeah, I think maybe the place we want was a little bit easy. It might have been like sort of like a beginners or like summer league or whatever. That was you and Caleb? Yeah. You're old Michael Waddell. We're old Michael Waddell. Yeah, y 'all were goofing off, I saw that. They wouldn't even let me have a gun, so I thought that wasn't cool. I get that, yeah. But then the second part was, dude, they— What did you wear? You put camouflage on. You're like you're going to the city pool. I did well. First of all, they did not even send a fan flitter or anything about what we were supposed to wear. They gave no directions.
52:31But they had some stuff for you. Yeah, they had some stuff down there. And it was good, dude. Like, the food was great. We had a great time. But I agree it was flat, so that's an easy place to shoot them. And, dude, so we were out there, and we maybe saw some or maybe didn't see some. I don't remember what happened. but afterwards we're leaving and there's like a couple like the game's over or whatever it's like around 11 a.m there's a couple turkeys just hanging out in the ditch right and like you know it's over like we were over there hunting them and we happen to just see some over here yeah it's like you know like they're in the locker room the game's over one of them has a towel around his neck you know one of them's texting his texting his wife or whatever he's not worried about it yeah yeah because one of them's taking his feet off you know what i'm saying taking his wings off he's just a fucking sparrow with a fucking morning job, you know?
53:13But we got him. Yeah, yeah. And fucking, they're like, let's shoot him. I'm like, dude, the fuck, that's not fair, you know? Yeah. Like, I just want to be a fair challenge. That's the thing sometimes with hunting. I do like, I had a great time. I would like to go duck hunting is something I would like to do. I know a guy. But that is a fair, that's a fair, like, I just like a little bit more of a fair challenge, you know? Well, you go out in the woods, like in my farm with a call. First of all, you've got to figure out how to call. You camouflage and you go out there and try to kill a bird on your own.
53:46It's tough. Like with no weapon? No, you can take a weapon. I just mean like calling one in is not the easiest thing to do. And then you almost have to get busted by one to know how well they can see. Oh, that's pretty quick. Like we'll have one sneak up on you. Yeah. And turkeys, because they're not going to come in the way you want them to. You go and you pick your spot, but he's going to try to come in where he can see you from as far away as he can. wherever that hen is that he thinks he's going to see. Yeah, they kicked my butt for sober years. I saw that you call them. You do a call? Can you do it regularly?
54:18Can you do it right now? No, I mean, I use like a diaphragm or I got a slate call. What's a slate call? You know? No, that's something. That one's fucking, yeah. That wasn't good. That's from Key West, I think, but let me try it one more time.
54:38Oh, that's, yeah, that's pretty good. It's pretty simple because the goal is you're trying to do it one more time.
54:48Yeah, that's better. That's it. See how you use your chest? Yeah. That was good. Yeah. Save your chest. That was good. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, that's nice, man, dude. And when people get out there with those calls, I love guessing what birds, different birds, there's so many birds out there. It is kind of interesting how some birds you can hunt them, but so many birds you can't hunt them. Yeah. Do you think that is a, these taste good kind of thing? Because I've never heard anybody that'd be like a cardinal's delicious. You know what I mean? Like those birds don't have a lot on them. Turkey's got a lot of meat on them.
55:29Dove and pheasant are obviously really good. Birds eat duck or good to eat geese. Yeah. You think that's what it is? Do you think that traditionally Indians, whatever it was, back in the day, like started hunting birds that they ate and they ate some robins and then they were like, that's not good. And then we just adapted to that and we're like, these are the ones we're going to hunt. I bet you're probably right. I bet there was always also some pervert always eating a blue jay or whatever off on the side and like, look at this little weirdo. I mean, because I don't think people eat like skunks either, you know, maybe in Louisiana, but I mean.
55:56No, I mean, raccoons, people eat a lot. My brother would kill raccoons. Raccoons, people eat squirrels. He would put notes up at the church and see if people had any in their area. and he'd go get them or whatever. But yeah, I guess that is a good point. You kind of eat whatever's the most plentiful because you also had to feed a lot of people. It's like you're like, you know, if you're just out there hunting for one all day, it's kind of like. Yeah, I mean, turkeys are from back like settler days. Yeah. You know, like that was, that's what, it was like the guy and turkeys that came over on the boat.
56:24Yeah, and if you saw a fat turkey, if people are like, hey, bring some lunch and you bring, one dude brings a turkey and one dude brings a little nightingale or whatever. It's like the dude eating the nightingale. If they brought like a nightingale stew. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, you'd be like, that's a fucking weirdo, I think, making that shit all night. Yeah. Blue Jay casserole? Yeah, dude. That didn't even sound good. Some dude out there. Yeah. Would it make him whooping crane omelets or something? What about some swan nuggets? Now, them bitches sound good. You ever eaten swan? You know, they also don't hunt a lot of real pretty birds either, though.
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1:00:18let me see Raleigh's doing calls here what do you got an earpiece in or something how'd you know that we showed it a second ago Oh, that's how I start the show. Oh, it is? It's a duck call.
1:00:36Let's go.
1:00:41Let's go, dude. I've never seen anybody catch that. Catch the duck call. And I do it at every show. People are there like signs, throw me the duck call. They never catch it. Well, I don't want to judge these people, but a lot of them could be women. And that is judging them. I'm going to take that out. No, what you said was exactly what you said you weren't going to say. It was what you said you weren't going to do. You haven't seen a league of their own? What the heck? Yeah, I have, dude. Maybe a duck call is hard to catch. Maybe the shape of it is not something they're used to. Maybe they're great catchers.
1:01:13And you're kind of throwing – it looked like you weren't throwing it easily towards them. You know? I don't know. That's a good question, man. what uh you're on your biggest tour right now is that true yeah every year it's a little bigger has it been yeah it's been great man what's the fear like about that we were talking about this the other night dude you and i kind of had our first conversation the other night a couple weeks ago we're talking a little bit about just like when like as your career goes along the pressure it feels like like you know like what is the rest of your career going to be like and how do you try to shape that if you can yeah and how do you try to shape yourself so that you're okay with however things go there's a certain amount of uh i've already accomplished way more than i ever thought i would so there's a there's a peace of mind in that and you know there's also a little bit of i'm guaranteed a certain career at this point you know even if i never have another hit i can go tour and you know i can make a living support my family whatever i need to do so there's there's peace in knowing that but i think the competitive part of me and like we talked about the other day is like when I have a hit or win an award or whatever it is, I don't feel like I can relax now.
1:02:21You know, I've accomplished that. It's really more like, okay, now I got to go do the next thing. I got to take – I think I always say that it's – I want to try to get as much out of the opportunities I've got as I can because, I mean, what you're doing and what I'm doing is very rare, you know, to be able to have the opportunities you've got and to be able to go and do some acting and stand-up comedy and have a podcast that's this popular and this successful. So I feel pressure in that regard of just like I want to go and be as successful as I can. But it's not necessarily a nervous thing. Certainly not with the shows getting bigger.
1:02:54That side of it is not a pressure thing because, I mean, the fans make it enjoyable. When you go to a show and you've got a sold-out arena for your stand, they're excited you're there. It's easy, you know? Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess with stand-up it feels like it's a – I can't tell. Does the venue lose intimacy with music? Because as it gets bigger with stand-up, it feels sometimes like, man, I wish I could connect with these people. It's just the way it is. But I don't know if music fits the same like that. I did a stadium tour with Luke Combs, and that's too big. I feel like there's no way the person in the far back top row is getting their money's worth at a concert.
1:03:35And you also lose some sound, too, when you have to have two rows of speakers, one halfway through. That's wild. There's so much reverb and bounce back. And then you think about how much of a pain it is to go to that show. Traffic to get in for a fan and then to be able to find a place to park and all that. And then they charge in the park too a lot of times. And then you got the fact that it's also an open air stadium. You got weathered issues and your openers are starting in the daytime. So they don't get the full effect of the lights and everything. And so arenas has always felt like a great place for me and you still have an intimate show.
1:04:09You still feel close to everybody. You feel like everybody got their money's worth, but it's still, you know, 20, 25 ,000 people. Yeah. Yeah, I guess like, yeah, the intimacy, yeah, the intimacy gets lost, I think at certain levels kind of. And so you try your best, you try to figure it out, you know. Yeah, I guess it's kind of interesting as your career goes on. You're like, man, this has been interesting. It's been fun to have this experience. yeah and you want to keep it going you want to like try your best and you also want to challenge yourself too because you got to evolve too like i think your does it feel like your music kind of has to evolve as you do with your life like like because um one time i sat down with uh there was this famous comedy manager and i sat with him and he goes you know at a certain point if you stay the same your audience will kind of they age they'll grow older and yeah so you have to like also like because it's almost a trap like i want to stay this i want to stay this song you know like because if like say you get a first hit or something like that you're like well i can't ever be different than this person you know the person that sings that song because i may lose people you know i'm saying does it make any sense yeah i think that the what your guy said is a little bit not true in the sense of you know that may have been true 10 15 years ago before social media was as relevant as it is but now if you do something well like your stand-up videos or your podcast or whatever, it lives forever.
1:05:34So the next generation, you know, whereas when you had a song on the radio 10 years ago, it lived when it was on the radio and then it went off and that was it. It was over. It didn't live anywhere else. Now everything you do lives on the internet forever. So if you're doing something well, I would really, especially like up and coming artists, I would advise against trying to do anything too different. For me, what I always do is I try to make sure I've got songs on my record, every record that are writing from the same place I started writing from that are very me. And then I try to take a few songs and write that are a little stylistically different and just kind of ease outside of my comfort zone a little bit.
1:06:09But so you would, but so it doesn't mean like, so you're saying that you can change because the thing you did will still stay out there. That's right. So it's kind of a safe space to be able to kind of, if you're doing something different, like. Yeah, I just think you don't turn and run from something that was successful, you know? And like with country music, you know. Well, it's scary to do that for sure. It is, yeah. But then I guess I'm thinking like, Do, do like, I guess I'm wondering sometimes it's like, yeah, do you try to stay the, like, do you try to make your life fit this, this certain time?
1:06:36You know what I'm saying? A little bit. I'll give you an example. And I know you've done some acting is, you know, I imagine in your role, you went into something that wasn't too far of a stretch from what you do and who you are. So I did Marshalls and, and like, my first. With Luke Grimes? With Luke. It was great. And, and I, I didn't want to take a role that was crazily different. You know, I wanted something that I could ease into and introduce myself into that world and then kind of go on. That's how I am with music is I might try a song that stylistically is a little different than what I normally do, but it's not going to be, I'm not going straight pop.
1:07:10You know, I'm not going to do something totally different. I think melody wise, I'll try some things out and see if it works. But keeping that familiarity in what you've done well for so long, I think is extremely important now because I think the best thing you can be is different. Not necessarily from something you've done before, but from everybody else. you know I mean well you your stand up and your humor on this podcast I don't know anybody else I mean in a weird way Norm Macdonald like the the the dry sarcasm of Norm I always thought he did something that was so unique and I don't know who I would compare you to you know yeah I think you always kind of like yeah I don't know I guess you want to be like you want to try and like honor yourself as much as you can I think with humor it's hard to pretend to be somebody else um and And I think with music, if somebody, if you pretended too much and some of it didn't come from a real authentic place for you, then it would kind of start to, you'd be able to see that after a while.
1:08:06I think fans can tell. I think that. Well, I don't think you'd have a ton. I think the longevity wouldn't be able to be there because you're playing, especially if you're trying to play somebody else's. Authenticity is really, it's so obvious now, again, because social media. I mean, 10 years ago, you'd have a song on the radio and people not necessarily know what you look like. Yeah. Now they know everything about you. My dog's got 150 ,000 followers on Instagram. Does he really? Yeah. I mean, people know everything about you. So if you're not authentically what you act like you are, people are going to figure it out.
1:08:36You think your dog knows he has that many? Yeah. No way. Oh, man. That dude, when the camera's on him, he's a different person. What? Yeah. And where's he from? I mean, he lives in Jacksonville, Alabama. He lives on my farm. He doesn't play in cards. What the heck, dude? Yeah, folded. Didn't have a good hand. Oh, dang, bro. Three and six, yeah. He lives like that, dude. Miss Carl, man. Oh, he's handsome. And that's a Stogie. What's that dog called? A Stogie's a cigar. He is a Corgi and a Blue Heeler mix. Oh, Blue Heeler, huh? Damn, he's Native American? I don't know about that. Look it up. Blue Heeler.
1:09:20Or Blue Heeler's Native American? No. You know what? That's the most direct answer to anything I've ever seen asked on the internet. No, blue heelers are not Native Americans. Native to Americas. Man, this shit might be fake. I don't know if you've ever been like that completely wrong. That was crazy. Where did you get that from? I don't want to know. Blue heelers are Native American? Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. Look up what dogs are Native American. Some of them have to be, huh? How'd we get them? Dogs native to North America fall. Nah. Look up what type of people think dogs are Native American.
1:09:57Oh, come on, bro. You're giving me a hard time. No, no. Seriously, I was curious about that. Will you look up what would possess a person to think a dog was Native American? Can we look that up? Hey, man, tell me about the acting. Did you enjoy it? Yeah, I'll tell you about it in a second. I want to finish this conversation. I think this conversation is done. You said that dog was Native American and no dogs are Native American. How about this? Look up this. How about this? what dogs were owned popularly by Native Americans? But it's changed so much since what you... I don't think it has. I'm saying, okay, here we go.
1:10:34Plains Indian dog. Okay. Solish wool dog. Well, popular, historical, and Indian... Chihuahua. Them little bitches were going back then? Remember the Taco Bell dog? Yeah, I remember it, too, but I'm talking about real Native Americans. That's the first famous dog I remember. You think? Except for the one that has a cigar that asks questions at the... Oh, the... You know what I'm talking about? He's not a real dog, so that doesn't count at all. That's a puppet. Yeah. Good point. Ask what puppets are Native American. Can you look up what types of people think puppets are real dogs? Please. That's funny.
1:11:09I like that. Oh, finally. I'm glad we got one funny thing today. Finally we got it. You piggybacked off my funny stuff, but you really, you hammered it on. Finally. Finally. We'll play rally ball. I didn't know we were playing. I forgot it was a puppet for a second. Okay, I will say that. You didn't see the guy's arm? You see a guy's hand in a sock acting like a dog long enough, eventually it becomes a dog to you. Well, look, if I see a guy's hand in an animal, I freaking know what's going on. It don't seem right, but, you know, that was probably first. We've all been to the Neshoba County Fair.
1:11:36That was probably, yeah, shout out Hardy. Yeah. But we all know. That's why they run with those chairs at the front. You know, they want to see the show. That's probably what the first 911 call was all about right there. There's a man with his hand up an animal over here. bring it back those Native American dogs I do want to know what they were and I want to see a little JPEG of them or a drawing probably if you can see that please I'm serious I just want to know which dogs they were I'm going to get you a hand painted oil based painting of a dog with just Native American things on it you know what I mean like a bow and arrow with feathers and everything that's actually not a bad idea and a coffee maker Plains Indian Dogs American Indian Dogs found across the Great Plains.
1:12:21These dogs were essential beasts of burden. They were used to pull - Beasts of burden. V-shaped wooden sleds called travois, loaded with meat, household goods, and children before horses were introduced. Wow. So they used to use dogs to do like field plowing. The Salish wool dogs kept by the Coast Salish tribes in Washington State and British Columbia. These small white fluffy dogs were sheared like sheep. Their thick wool was spun into blankets and textiles. Dang. Read the next one. The Xalophone. The Xala...
1:13:02Welcome back to Puppy Talk. I'm Riley Green with my guest, Theo Vaughn. And I'm here also today. We're so happy. We're going to look at the bone structure of a Xala... And they are a Native American dog popularized by the Aztecs and Mayans. these dogs were kept as pets guards and physical heaters dude imagine that i can't even imagine it what do you mean you get the dog tonight that's hairless mexican hairless dog is a wild looking dog oh that shit ain't nothing look at that little bad boy look at the one down there this i'll say i saw i saw the one you're looking at yeah yeah look at that little boss if you put him on that commercial with willie nelson playing uh you were always on my mind yeah i would give the money, whatever it is.
1:13:46You're always, he looks like he's got farm aids, dude. That thing is a tough run right there. And that was a pretty good joke. Dude, I was really good. Maybe close one eye for a while. Like, yeah, I'm just joking. Shout out Willie Nelson and farm aid. Dude, I just saw Billy strings this weekend. Actually I went there where, um, him, Stephen Wilson, Jr. Uh, Sheryl Crow, Willie Nelson, uh, Lucas Nelson. They had a show in, uh, outside of boston lucas is great uh stephen wilson's so talented so talented man that's awesome that's a cool that'd be a cool thing to see oh it was just great to be over there man um how was the acting let me think it was there was just like a lot going on it took like i wish i'd have had more time to like work on the character and i just had we were wearing a lot of hats yeah so when you're doing a lot of stuff it's a lot yeah and you think it's not gonna be you know we were i was on tour and we're filming in park city utah for marshall so i was flying every week to utah playing three or four days or filming and go play shows and fly back and i feel like i didn't know enough about the character like i was getting the script for like that day and i didn't know any of the backstory so when i went and watched it there were so many things i would have done differently if i'd known this about the character or that and i i would have really enjoyed it if i could have just lived in that world and filmed for a month, you know?
1:15:09Yeah. Also, it's really bothering me a lot just to think about if you knew that that picture of that dog was on there and you went on a dog, Native American dog rant, just so you could say farm aids, because if that's the case, one, that'd be awesome. And two, how much preparation would that take? You know what I mean? Like that would be coming into an interview. Don't worry about learning anything about the guy that's here like me. You don't have to know any of my songs or anything. But if I can come up with a way to say farm age with a dog, that'd be awesome. Yeah, I wouldn't. That's insane.
1:15:39I don't know if I'd like the version of you better that did that or the one that just came up with it. I don't know. That didn't. That's a good question, actually. Either way, I like you. That's a lot of thought. Well, thank you. I've been sitting here hoping you would. I just decided just now. The coffee thing threw me off. I knew the jury was out. Yeah, what do you think? like, so one thing you said a little while ago, uh, you said that like, like, like achievements, right? Like they'll keep you going, but do you feel a lot of achievement? Like if you achieve something, do you really feel it?
1:16:07Or does it feel like, um, like, you don't strike me as the kind of guy that feels a lot of like, like that sit there and relishes some, like if you, like something does happen to you, like you get an award, you get this certain thing. It's just like part of the thing. Yeah. I think you get a little numb to it, especially when you're so busy, you know, you get a little, you don't really, I guess for lack of better terms, sit back and appreciate it. I try to make myself live in the moment a little more, but for me, I look at a lot of the things that happen is like checks, you know, not that I had the goals of accomplishing those things, but I'm like, man, when I, you know, ACM awards or whatever it was, we went a couple of awards, CMAs, whatever it is.
1:16:44I'm more looking at like, okay, I got a performance that's got to go well. I need to, you know, figure out the song and make sure it goes well when it does and I get the award and I got a little speech or something and I make sure that goes well and then I'm like, okay, all went well and it's like a little bit of relief but not necessarily like a, I accomplished this. And also, that stuff's a little bit political, you know what I mean? The best song doesn't always win and for me, I think I appreciate a lot more a sold-out show. Like when fans are there and they're like singing a song that I wrote in it like I can tell it means something to them there's emotion in it like that means more to me than an award yeah you know do you but yeah I guess I'm just wondering like do you feel like you like you're good at like uh feeling pride for yourself like that sort of thing you know because that's something sometimes I've struggled with that it's like I don't think too much about it but it's like man sometimes that is uh like if somebody's like man do you feel proud of yourself I don't feel that a lot of times does that make any sense to you oh I think that I mean it does makes sense i think that you got to find things in your life that you do feel proud of yourself about like for me it's not musical achievements for me i feel proud about my farm i feel proud that i you know could put my parents in a nice house and buy my dad a truck whatever those like i feel more for that than anything i ever bought myself right and like my niece and nephew sending me pictures my sister of them catching fish in my lake like i'm proud of like that and those are things that I know will last forever.
1:18:12And, you know, I mean, there's a little bit of songwriting pride. I think when I write a song that, you know, I wrote by myself and I think it was good, it made me feel something. And when people relate to it, like I feel proud about that. But that's a little short-lived, you know, like a joke that really lands. I think that you got to find things in life that you constantly want to be attached to, you know. For me, it's stuff like my farm and you know having a little place at the beach or something my folks going down there i when people send me pictures of my beach house saying man this was nice we had a great time that's what i feel proud of you know things i never thought i'd have and where's that i know you said i think you said panama city beach you got a place down there yeah that was so funny what did you say you said that was my favorite thing about you well my favorite thing that i heard dude when somebody's like man i got me a beach house down in panama city beach that shit just made me laugh because what i remember of it from being in like uh high school and college it was just a place where we were just trashed kids.
1:19:09Yeah. You know? So just to see a text or something, we got a beach house down there. Yeah. And I know it's a nice beach. I know the Gulf is nice, man. It's like, there's not a part of the Gulf that's not even like built up now, man. It used to be so different. Yeah. No, I'm right outside of Panama City and it's a little quieter where I'm at. But yeah, no, we all had our spring break trips to Panama City and it was rowdy. Yeah. Right now you got I'm trying to think Was there something That you guys wanted to talk about That was specific? Oh yeah I'm Raleigh Get ready with me While Raleigh gives me a hard time You got a new album That's coming out In September September 18th I think Yeah That's just me It's the name of the album I put three songs Off the album out Last week a song called Go Again with a girl named Hannah McFarlane is on that song.
1:20:07It's a song called Think Is You Drunk. It's my new single at Country Radio and a song called My Way. There you go. And yeah, the album's going to come. We're going to put a couple more songs off the album out between now and then, but the album will be out. It's 19 songs. It comes out in September, so. Hell yeah. Do you feel any type of way about this album? Different than other albums? Do you feel pressure to get... Well, answer that question first, if you don't mind. Yeah, what's different about this album or what's kind of the same? I think it's, don't mind if I do, that record I think had a lot of different types of songs on it.
1:20:42I think that's something that I did well on that one. So I made sure this one was the same way. I got a lot of songs that sound like stuff I've written for years. Then I got a lot of songs that are a little different. You know, and I got fun beach songs. I got drinking songs. I got, you know, love ballads. And so I think that that's what I'm excited about the album is. I think as a whole, it's a good project. But again, I try not to do anything too different in the sense of how I go about putting out music. You know, it's always what I've done so far is kind of work. Yeah. What about like in your, like outside of music life, outside of your farm and stuff like that?
1:21:19Do you think, like you're a guy that probably has an easy time meeting ladies. Do you feel like settling down is in the future? Like, do you ever think about that? Like, because you and I were both growing up. Yeah, I feel like you know better than that because you're in that world, too. Like, it's really not that easy to meet a girl when you're doing what we're doing. Like, I mean, I'm not going to meet a girl to show, you know. I mean, I'm confined to the back, you know, on a bus, and I'm not going to meet a girl on Instagram. You know what I mean? And when you get to a place where people are, you know, it gets tough to know who you're meeting for what.
1:21:52And I always feel like if I met somebody that was like a fan, I feel like it would be tough for me to be like, you know, I would look at them like, Like you're probably the same way too as I go in a bar and when people start, you get a little bit like anxious. It makes you uncomfortable. Yeah. I mean, I don't mind being the center of attention at like a show or if I'm in a town, I'm playing a show and I go to a restaurant or bar down the street. But like, I don't like being the center of attention when I'm not supposed to. That always makes me feel odd. I agree. I don't like to feel like if I went to another show and people were asking me for a picture and there was somebody else on stage, that would make me feel really, really rude.
1:22:23Yes. And also like a restaurant, it's not that people ask me if a picture bothers me. it's just I don't want to be standing up causing a scene now I'm the center of attention yeah I don't like that so you know when you go like I'm not going to meet a girl at the bar you've been to Losers and Duck Blind with me and we sit on the back deck away from everybody you know kind of hiding oh dude one night I sat out there by myself on Losers back porch and I was watching Netflix back there yeah just watching two I watched two episodes of something yeah I know it's tough is it cake I think it was yeah I feel like if I could be in one place for a while like live somewhere that's another thing I don't feel like I live anywhere.
1:22:57I've got a house in Nashville, and I stay there every once in a while. I've got a farm in Alabama. Have you always felt like that? Well, you must not. Your farm must feel like some type of way to you. But have you always felt like you didn't live somewhere? It's kind of an interesting feeling, bro. I've never heard anybody say that, and I relate to that 100%. I've never really felt like I lived somewhere. Well, my farm is like, by the time I get there, I'm already thinking about I've got to leave again. Like, I'm there for two or three days. That's not long enough to really get settled in. You don't really know which way to go while you're there.
1:23:25but no when I was doing construction work playing shows on the weekends I'd be home every night like that was that's always felt like home to me but right now I just don't live in one place you know I'm flying to LA every week and on the road on the weekends but if you think if you keep it like that though then do you think that there's a possibility that something could change that you could like you know meet somebody start a family with that type of lifestyle no not the way it is now it's gonna have to change in the sense of like well you talked about you're coming off tour and not knowing what to do with yourself.
1:23:56I've got to get to that point. I would love to try to get bored of being at home. I just, I can't remember the last time I had a week off, you know, I mean, maybe around Christmas. Yeah. But I played shows until January, I mean, December 27th last year. Sure. You know, so I mean, it's, if I could, and right now I could go take a month off. I could, but I just can't with everything going on and the opportunities I've got, I can't make myself do it. So I'm sort of like, grind right now, I'll keep my nose down, say yes to everything. And then in a couple of years, things will stop doing this, no kind of playing off.
1:24:28And I'll have this career and I'll say, all right, I'm gonna play 40 or 60 shows a year. I might film a little TV show or a movie or whatever. And then I can have a life outside of it, you know, but it's just tough to do right now. But do you start to think about trying to, cause yeah, cause here's the thing, like there will always be probably, I don't if there will always be opportunities, but there's always like things you can say yes to, you know, Are you at a spot where you can kind of couture it a little bit more and kind of shape it how you want it? I am, yeah. Are you still in a space where there's a little bit of fear of, like, fuck, if I don't do this stuff?
1:25:00The really fortunate thing I've got going on is right now, my career is in such an upward slant that the things I'm getting asked to do, I can't say no to. Wow. They're hosting CMA Fest or being a coach on The Voice. I mean, you've got to think there's one country music artist that's a coach on The Voice. That's a good point. I mean, like, Blake Shelton, Reba's been on there. Like it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. And you got to think about all the people in country music that are so lucky to be where they are and have the careers they are. And they don't even have that opportunity. Yeah.
1:25:28You know, so. Did you have to audition for that opportunity? They met with me and I sort of told them that, you know, they were considering me. I sort of told them that I got what they wanted. You know, they want somebody that's sort of funny, sort of dry that cuts up. And they came to a show and I had a little Q &A with somebody beforehand and we cut up back and forth. and then I went on Jimmy Fallon and they got me on the couch and we had a little duck call moment that was funny and that's how I got the job. Just goofing off doing this. Yeah. Does that feel like a... I don't know. I mean, it's just interesting because it's kind of a mainstream thing but it's also a thing that kind of, like you're saying, yeah, it kind of makes you eternal in a way.
1:26:12It kind of puts you in a different perspective. It's very household old, and it's very outside of the genre of country. So, you know, I would guess that most of my fans are country music fans, you know. I can tell, and I can tell it from the first day of filming, I'm the least famous person as a coach on The Voice right now with the people that are fans of The Voice. Kelly Clarkson's been on it forever. Adam Levine's been on it forever. Queen Latifah's on it with me, and she's iconically famous, you know. So, the fact that I can tell I'm not as well known in that world only tells me how much I'll gain from it because it's putting me in front of so many different people, you know?
1:26:48Did you ask somebody like, do I think this is, oh, how fast does a chair go? Uh, I mean, a little, about like you would turn normally in an office chair. If somebody said, Hey, look at this native American dog. You know what I mean? Get ready with me while I look at this native American dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not, it's just not gonna throw you out of the chair. Yeah. Okay got it If you had someone Sit on your lap Would it turn slower Or you think it would Turn the same amount I think it's got enough power You could have Two people on your lap And it wouldn't change the speed I think you go much over that You're gonna Ball bearings issue I imagine I don't You know What was the idea dude I remember we talked One night about this For a few minutes You said you had A different idea For how the chair Could work That would be interesting What was it I can't remember I think the chair Should start facing The contestant Yes bro You turn away when you don't like it.
1:27:44Okay. Now, what would be tough about that is you're going to be looking at them. Yeah. So, you know, like they're going to take it. It's personal. Yeah. Because the surprise when you turn, you know, sometimes people don't look like they sound, you know, or it's not who or what you think it is. Right. So there's a little more of a reveal there, but there'd also be a neat reveal if you turned away. And you're like, you're sitting there and they're singing and they're just singing their little heart out here. You know what I mean? You just turn. Because here's the thing. yes that would be awkward for a split second yeah because you'd be making eye contact when you press a button and turn away but then you're facing the other way you're good yeah problem with what we're doing now is I'm facing away and then when I turn to them or don't turn they still turn your chair and then you gotta explain to them why you didn't turn yeah oh it's tough have you guys started filming it and do you have like total carte blanche on what you think like do they is there any like are they intervening or is it it's it's completely unscripted they don't even tell you what might be coming up next.
1:28:42We would do like 18 people a day, I think. And it's a long day. We'd get there at 9, leave at like 9 at night. We're done with the blind auditions now. But that was... It's not that hard to do because it is this. You're just cutting up. It does get tough to find new things to say when somebody's not quite it. Oh, yeah, dude. I could imagine that. It's hard to think of anything. Especially if you're trying to think. Musically, there's only so many terms. And I'm sitting here and I'm like, I don't want to say the same thing over and over again, but sometimes a lot of it is just nerves. A lot of it I've heard people that are, you can tell really talented singers, but they come on there and it's a very awkward thing.
1:29:17You got chairs facing away from you, the lights are on, it's on camera, it's on television. There's an audience there. And then they start singing and they're really winded, which is a nerve thing. You can't kiss their breath. And then by the end, they'll get it going, you know? But it's a, yeah, I mean, it's people's dreams there, you know, and we're trying to make it fun and make good television out of it. But there's also a lot of really great stories that come out of it. I'm sure I'm excited about getting to work with the artists and all that. Dude, I was staying at a hotel. I went like whenever they had the freeze in Nashville, when everything got frozen or whatever, you know?
1:29:49Yeah. I had been at the UFC that weekend, and the freeze was like coming on Monday, and everybody like wasn't sure what was going to happen, you know, because you don't know if it's going to be, how bad it's going to be. And so I was like, well, I'm just going to get out of town. I was like, I'm just going to go to – so I went to Hawaii for a few days. Nice. it was like it's not gonna freeze there right not gonna freeze there's one place that had good weather so i was like i'm out and i went with like a security guy so i had somebody to go with me right because otherwise i was just gonna be out there by myself and he and i stayed at this place and like it was all like people that was like getting married or whatever you know and then just me and him meeting like like we had like five like romantic like nice damn like candlelit dinners it's just me yeah just me and him dude did your shoes light up dude get ready with me no his shoes didn't light up dude mine didn't either okay hold on this is a good game show I don't want to do this on a side note but what if you had shoes that were like a mood ring yes so when you're fairly into somebody think about how easy Dayton would be then shoes are just flashing red or green I guess would be like and she's like oh he likes me and what if hers are like flashing just not flashing and hers are just indifferent no you need to like really not into you needs to be a color red probably, right?
1:31:05Or her start making that back up, sounding like a big truck's back up. And she just starts moving. Oh, God. We should have that. Dude, we have freaking so much stuff. So however mood ring works is like the heat or blood flow, whatever. Your feet have to have the same thing, 100%. You might not be able to wear socks with them, but big deal. Some people say your feet are like the... The hands of your leg. No, they say that. The hands of your leg. Is that what you meant? Yeah, the eyes are the brains of the face. Yeah. From a visual aspect, yeah. Yeah. I mean, from all of it. But no, dude, that's exactly what I'm saying.
1:31:44But no, I think - The ears are the elbow of your head. That's crazy. Come on, dude, think about it. Nuh-uh. I'm not thinking about any more stuff. What were we talking about? I went on a shooting thing. You were doing good. Have you been in here? What was that? What were we talking about? It was pretty good. No, you were talking about - Look, dude, this whole thing is we're just running a sting operation on the neighbors. Okay, that's all this is about. He's home. Yeah. He's home. Let's go. No, I was just going to think. Yeah, what were we talking about? I want to get through that one idea. Did we get through any ideas on this?
1:32:19You know, I've had a good time. Do you think that the guy back there knows what's going on? Is he like, hey, you were talking about this? Dude, he sat in here with so many types of people. Sometimes it's one way. I'll say this. Trevin, do you feel like you ever know how one of these conversations Is he going to go? Never know, man. What bothers me about it is I feel like I should be able to retrace my steps to why I was talking about light-up shoes. Oh, you're going to dinner with your security guard. Oh. Romantic dinner. And this is what happened. And so right next door, and they were doing the show that Luke Bryan is on.
1:32:55America's Got Talent. America's Got Talent. American Idol. American Idol. With respect. And he even called it America's Got Talent once. and I corrected him. Really? Yes. But now other people are correcting me because I caught it from him. Yeah. But what I'm saying is yeah, we're sitting there and right there they had the show. Anyway, it was just kind of interesting because for five days we watched them tape this thing right there on the beach. Yeah. You know? So. Luke was in Hawaii? Yeah. It was nice. I got to see him. I got to meet him. Wait, I met him before. We went fishing like a couple weeks ago at his place.
1:33:27He loves to fish hunt, golf, and drink. Dude, I'll say this. He's one of the... What? he does he loves that what do you think he likes to fish golf and drink fish hunt golf and drink he loves to do those things how do you know that he's wrote a song about it no he didn't yeah it's called I think it's called fish hunt golf drink and what else and something else no no no just those things oh that's it yeah you can play it if you want is it good it's called what kind of question is that it's country classic I imagine get ready with me while I listen to this get ready with me while I go fish hunt now what would you wear for that Fish Hunt Golf Drink Dude I'd fucking You don't have to play it right now No we don't have to play it Just put it on here We'll play it in our imaginations I'll play it in the car On the way home What do that No he He gave me credit For him writing that song He gave you credit Or he blamed me One of the two Oh he did Yeah I don't even know that He texted me and said That we need to get together It's been too long And he said Fish Hunt Golf Drink Oh nice dude So I was not there I didn't write the song It had nothing to do with the song I didn't even send the text I didn't even say That's a cool text or you should write a song that had nothing to do with it.
1:34:33So I want to say that while we're here. Well, I'm going to read some of it right here. Do me a favor. Read it like stand-up poetry. I have not heard this song. Okay, so just, you know, like put a little feeling behind it. Some passion. Wake up, coffee. Camo. Climb tree. Wet line. 18. So you said wake up, coffee like you were saying, like good morning, moon, or good night, moon. You did it like that. That was cool. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Wake up, coffee. Camo, climb tree. Wet line, 18. Fish hunt, golf, drink. All fall, all spring, all summer long. I'll be living it up and living it on. A country boy's dream.
1:35:17Fish hunt, golf, drink. I like it. It's a haiku. It's got a little bit of the, like the caterpillar book to it. It's got a hit of the tism, dude. Have you ever read children's books? Huh? Like, I mean, out loud, like for audio books. You'd be great at that. Yeah. Thanks, man. Fish hunt, golf, drink. Fish hunt, golf, drink. I wouldn't mind that. I'm trying to think. Well, I don't need to be drinking, but fishing, I would love to go. I'm going to take you duck hunting this year. Will you really? Yeah. You just got to like, I know that you're as bad as me about scheduling stuff, but I'm not going through management to do it.
1:35:50So I'll just text you and be like, hey, man, I got these days. You was a busy guy. You were down in Pensacola. You were going to somewhere else, Barbados or something. What? Yeah. I don't think I've been to Barbados, man. Yeah, well, I guess you didn't go then. I'm going to Saskatchewan. Oh, are you going there? Yeah. She was making up names of places. The Windy City. Is that how you say it? No, that's a real place. Saskatchewan? It's in Canada. No, it's beautiful up there. I've been up there. It's in, is that next to Ed's? What's the one next to Edmonton? Is that? The Big Apple. No, it's not the Big.
1:36:18Edmonton, yeah. No, it's not the Big Apple. That's what they, I mean, yeah, you don't know what they call it there. Bro, I didn't know you were so funny, dude. I've been trying to tell you. I was honestly going to tell you how funny I was at my birthday party when you just got two pieces of cake and ran out the door. Fuck you, dude. I didn't even want to do it. He literally was going, I saw his back. He was eating cake out the door. Dude, I came to your party. You hated it. No, seriously, thanks for coming. I'm out of here. Thank you. No, thank you for coming. I left because you weren't having fun.
1:36:43Dude, you wouldn't. And also. No, here's the thing. You came to my surprise party and you didn't even want to be there. That's how bad it was. You didn't want to. You were downstairs sitting by yourself in the back deck of losers. and you're like, I'd rather be down there than in this room with these people in this celebration. Dude, I was watching a series. I was on the third episode. Yeah. You know, it's like people are trying their best. You know, not everything's going to be just for you, Riley. You know what would be really fun? Huh? Is if you did a get ready with me to go to my birthday party.
1:37:11God. Man, I ain't doing all that shit, bro. You got me messed up. Let's do one get ready with me. You got me messed up, slime. I'll pick what yours is. You can pick what mine is. Nah, bro, we can't do a damn get ready with me. Yeah. Oh, that might not be a bad idea, really, if we thought of some good ones, dude. Wonder what yours would be, dude. Get ready with me while I go be an asshole somewhere. That's what I would pick, dude. I swear. But what would you pick for mine, though? Get ready with me while I go to the pound and try to find a Native American dog. And I would bring, like, some sage or something with me?
1:37:52I feel like you would go to a dog park and be like so is this a Native American dog park? Or is this all regular dogs? Or is there any dogs that are... There's like a burial ground there or something? Maybe I would. That's a talent to ask weird questions though to be able to come up with them. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess. I don't know, man. I don't have a ton. A lot of times it's just like we're going to catch up. I know that you have a lot going on in your life so I was glad to get to catch up. Yeah, I mean doing something like The Voice it feels like a big change because it's like Like, you know, you have this kind of like you're a country musician.
1:38:26You're respected by people in that world. And you've had a lot of success in it. And then you kind of – there's something that's a bit more of like a commercial appeal, which is awesome. And I understand like your perspective on it. And I don't know. I just think it's interesting, you know. It's interesting how things come along in life because some people probably say no to things. Some people probably say yes to things. Well, the interesting thing about a career like we've got is you're kind of in charge of how successful you can be. I mean, yeah, things have to go well. People have to like whatever art you create, whether it's comedy, music, whatever.
1:38:57But if you don't go do the stuff, you're not going to get the opportunity. And I can't tell you how many things I've gone and done that necessarily on paper were not going to be beneficial or financially worth doing. But there was an opportunity there that led to something else that led to something else. That's how The Voice was. all the acting stuff that I've been able to do so far and you know I mean think about stand up comedians how many of them that are you know household names have been really successful only have done stand up they've all acted or been on some other platform Saturday Night Live whatever even the even the like guys that were just great stand up guys like Eddie Murphy and Dave Chappelle and they all had other avenues after I mean you almost know Eddie Murphy better now for his acting you know and he's a great stand up comedian so I bet a lot Richard Pryor I bet there's a lot of people that wouldn't know that he was a stand-up comedian that's what I mean and if you didn't get your start on Saturday Night Live that's kind of how you branch out and do something else because I feel like in comedy it would probably be much worse because you have to come up with so much more material whereas music you can now about tour for a year off of it and still play some of those songs for years to come but you have to be a whole lot more creative regularly in comedy but if that's all you did that would get really monotonous after a while You get tired of it.
1:40:14The only time I ever got tired of music was 2014, 15, 16 in there, and I was playing the same clubs, same venues over and over again, playing the same songs, and it got to be where I just didn't look forward to it. As long as things are growing, you can find other things. Was there ever a tour that you did that you got asked to go on that you just chose not to? Are there different tours that you get asked to do? How often does that happen with artists? I've been really fortunate that I've had a pretty good touring business for the last 10 years. So I have to turn down some tours because I can make more money touring on my own.
1:40:50Plus, I feel like there's a little bit of if you get caught in that opening act role, it's hard to get out of it. You never go, because, you know, like what's open for somebody is great because one, you got guaranteed money. The venue, if it snows and the venue shuts down, you still get paid. You don't have to pay for production, cater, anything like that. So there's no overhead and you get in front of new fans. So it's a great way to get some exposure. but if you don't go play your own show, you're not building a fan base. Right. Because people have to be there to see you. So for me, I always, if I went open for somebody and played a stadium or an arena, I'd go back and play a club there, you know, after and try to get the most out of it if I could.
1:41:26But yeah, I don't do any real open slots anymore. So it's nice. Yeah. Yeah, oh, I mean, it's definitely nice. And sometimes I forget about the work that I have done. I forget about all the spots that I played. I forget about all the time I put in on things. So you get there and you remember something about the backstage of the green room looks familiar. You're like, oh, I've been here. Yeah. Happens to me all the time. Yeah. Right now you have the Cowboy As It Gets tour. Who's working with you on it? Justin Moore, Randy Houser. Oh, nice. A guy named Drake White, Hannah McFarlane, Mackenzie Carpenter.
1:42:01I kind of try to have a parade of first of four and second of four guys and girls just because I like having people out that, you know give them an opportunity to get in front of a bunch of fans I'm really fortunate that all these shows are selling out we got big crowds that's so cool dude yeah man god I wish I could freaking sing you freak sorry they're a pretty good turkey call though yeah but all I'm gonna be yeah but I ain't meeting you know what I'm saying but a turkey call I saw you sing my song all you gonna meet is a turkey with Ella you sang at the stagecoach oh yeah dude I missed it we got there the next day I think oh I thought you were there winded out we didn't get to play I thought you were there Yeah, dude, that was great, bro You told me you're nervous Yes, I was freaking nervous, dude That's such a It's such an easy song in the sense of the crowd knows every word And the talking verses and all that It's a little easier to do But I'll bring people up out of the crowd to do it sometime Oh, you will?
1:42:55Yeah Oh, dude, that's cool, bro Yeah, well, the tough part was I knew the song But then when you have a responsibility to do the words You're like You know, it kind of sets you like all right now i have like i gotta do the responsibility we start thinking about it right yeah and then uh the craziest part this part was kind of funny my uh my buddy we wrote the call the notes down all the words on the cards we wrote the words on the cards on a poster boards and um and so he's staying in there with him by the side of the stage just in case right yeah and then but i didn't need him i started doing good in my brain and i didn't need him and so he starts shaking the card like he's getting pissed and I'm not looking at the cards.
1:43:37Because he made these cards. Yeah. I'm like, dude, I don't need them. Yeah. You're here for having happy that you didn't need them. Right. You should have just been a little selfish. He should have been ripping them up and throwing them in the air or something. But he's sitting there like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and just giving me like a bunch of grief or whatever. You know, just like a bunch of poster board grief or whatever. And so, yeah, I don't know. That was kind of a lot. But, um, oh, and then it was windy and my hat kept coming off and I kept having a cowboy hat on. Yeah. I kept having to get it.
1:44:02And I was like, dang, I wish they made a really heavy hat. Or a, could have went that route. A chin strap? Yeah. Come on. A cowboy hat? Come on, man. You think I'm gonna wear a cowboy hat with a chin strap on it? Desperate times, man. Nuh-uh. I can't, I can't read lyrics and sing, you know? Wait, you can't what? I can't read lyrics and sing. I've got to just know it, you know, like a teleprompter or whatever, I can't. Oh, yeah. And so if I look out in the crowd and read a sign or something while I'm, I just forget who I am. It messed me all up. I can't read anything. I can't look at anybody's side in the crowd when I'm singing.
1:44:38Well, it's two different things, totally. I would rather know, I would rather just guess than be reading something, you know? Just take my chances with whatever's going to come up in my brain. Which could be anything. Yeah, which is kind of the best thing. Your brain is just like... Sometimes it is. Yeah, it's like a glass of champagne. Some bubble just comes right up, and that's a new idea or something like that. I love that. That's my favorite thing about being alive, is just seeing kind of what comes out of your brain, you know? Yeah. And other people's brains. I think it's interesting. But yeah, man, I felt lucky to get to do y 'all's songs.
1:45:09So yeah, I was happy. That's cool. I got to see some clips of it. You did good. I was happy to get to do it. Oh, dude, once I got out there and realized that I could sing, it was over, dude. I was like, I was a singer. We'll find one you can do with me, and we'll come out to the show. We'll get you out to do one. Yep. I like that. Get ready with me. Get ready with me to go sing with Raleigh Green tonight. Yeah, there we go, dude. You have your new album. It's out on the 18th. Yep, that's it. September 18th. That's just me. You have three singles that are already out from it? Yes, sir. Excellent.
1:45:48And the Big As It Gets Tour? No. Cowboy As It Gets Tour. If you just wait on the slide, it'll be easy. I'm Raleigh Green, and it's the Cowboy As It Gets Tour in 2026. You know what this is like? This is like, honestly, when you're having a rocky day at work and one of your boys shows up and helps you out. I thought that's what this is. Oh, that's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah. That's exactly what this is. So thank you, bro. Yeah. Thank you for showing up. You know, if you ever need me to come in when you got somebody cool here that you're doing, I can just sit on the couch and, you know what I mean?
1:46:19Just help. Dude, just come and do my part. Yeah. Dude, you're good at this, man. You're really good at this, bro. I watched your show, man. this past weekend with Theo Vaughn. I watched it. I appreciate that, man. Say some creative stuff on here. Yeah. We have over time, you know. Sometimes it's hidden. It's not all gold. No. Man, if you sit here and talk for, what, two hours, there's bound to be something funny in there. Oh, there's fun stuff, man. I mean, I don't know. It's been interesting. Sometimes you find different things. Sometimes you learn stuff. Sometimes you don't learn stuff. No, I enjoy that it's, there's some seriousness in there, you know.
1:46:56Oh, yeah. I mean, sometimes you get a lot more serious. It just kind of depends, you know? I think I can't tell if it has to do with my energy or it has to do with the guest's energy. It's probably just both of us and whatever's going on, you know? Well, I feel like there's a lot of places where me and you are in a similar spot with life outside of our careers. Yeah. You know, so. And maybe we didn't talk about that enough. We did okay, though. Yeah, but we can do like a real deep thing. You know, we just share one mic and sit Indian-style on the floor with just candles and do it. You know what I mean?
1:47:26Oh, I know what I'll bring, my Indian dog with me. If you can get your hands on one. Yeah, there's one out there. Riley Greenman, thanks so much, bro. Thanks for the music. Thanks for the entertainment. Thanks for the entertainment today, dude. You're a funny guy, bro. I didn't realize that. And I know that's a weird thing to say to somebody else, but thanks for making me laugh. That's what I mean. I appreciate it, bro. Appreciate you, man. That was fun. And congrats on all the success. And I'll have to get out there and check out one of the shows this year. The Biggest It Gets Tour. You're going to some good spots.
1:47:55Cowboys and Gets. God. Yeah. I'll be out there. Rodney Green, ladies and gentlemen, thank you, brother. Appreciate it, man. Yep. Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take
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Riley Green is a country musician and songwriter from Jacksonville, Alabama. His new album “That’s Just Me” is out September 18th and his “Cowboy As It Gets Tour” is happening now.
Riley joins Theo to talk about his new job on The Voice, popular Native American canines, and the perks of living slightly off grid in Alabama.
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