#675 - Professor Jiang

28:11And the theory is that if you do that that people will not be able to bear the pain and they will revolt. Revolt, exactly. Wow. So that's, man. That's a lot going on. And you believe that that's where we could be headed there? We are very much heading in that direction. Okay. So now what the Iranians do in response is they activate their proxies. Okay. Why? Because the proxies are now able to exert a lot more pain on the global economy. Right. So the Iranians are able to close out the Shrift of Hormuz. And their proxies, who are they? Just say who their proxies are. Hezbollah in Lebanon. The Houthis in Yemen.

28:49and then you have the militias, the Shia militias in Iraq. Okay. Right? So the logic of this is by closing off the Shri of Hormuz, Iran is denying the world 20 % of the global supply of oil. But now if the Hufus are able to close off the Beq al-Mandad Strait, then that's another 7%. So that's putting more pressure on the global economy. And now if Lebanon is able to close off the Suez Canal or put pressure on trade over here, that's even more pressure. That's a lot. Yeah. But as we can see, this escalation ladder is coming up really fast. Right. Right. And the real fear is that the Americans will be under so much pressure that they use tactical nuclear weapons against Iran.

29:46And then we could be looking at nuclear war and civilizational collapse. And that's World War III for sure. No, it's the end of civilization for sure. Oh. Yeah. Professor Zhang, what are we going to do? Do you believe in God? Yeah. We're good then. That's a good point. All right. Yeah. All right. I'll see you on the other side. That's right. See you in the big H. That's right. Dude, I heard that if you go to heaven, this is something I heard that's kind of cool, just to take a break from the war stuff for a second. If you go to heaven, and thank you for explaining this, and thank you for discussing the escalation ladder with us.

30:21If you go to heaven, that when you get there, your friends are there, right? All your friends that you knew from here and your family, but they all work in different places. So you might go to a Jersey Mike's in heaven, and your brother or your ex-girlfriend could be working there. And once you lock eyes with each other, you have memories of things that you knew from this period here. but it's brand new there. So it's like you get to go everywhere and find your old friends and stuff. So it'd be pretty cool. Like you could be somewhere and like Frederick Douglass or whatever could be a park ranger or Xi Jinping or something could be, he could be working at an ice cream stand, you know?

30:59So it could be kind of cool anyway. Yeah, it sounds pretty cool. Yeah. So just letting you in on a little bit of a BTS heaven lore. Great. It would be impractical for America to end up in a nuclear war though. Yeah, I don't think it will happen. Okay. Yeah. So you don't think that will happen? I don't think it will happen, no. What stops that escalation ladder from going forward? Yeah, okay. So again, we want to use game theory and step back and ask ourselves why this war is happening. Okay. Okay? Because once you figure out what the motivations of the players are, then you can figure out how far this goes, right?

31:35Because the players are trying to win and they're going to try to win in a way that is at least harmful or the easiest way to win, if that makes sense. Yeah, it does because it's kind of like poker. So say if I got an okay hand, I might bluff a little in the beginning or go in on a few blinds or something, but I'm not going to probably raise it to the end of the line because I know what I have. I'm going to wait for another hand. Right. So let's look at game theory and ask ourselves, who are the major players in this game and what do they want? Okay. So you have the United States, of course. You have Iran.

32:08You have Israel. And I would say the fourth major country is Saudi Arabia. Okay. And why are we even in this conflict? That's right. So we're trying to figure this out. Because that's been a big question in America, especially amongst a lot of my peers. Why are we there? Why are we putting our troops there? It doesn't seem like we have a real interest. I know there's the rumors of weapons of mass destruction again. There's rumors of nuclear weapons held by Iran. But I think people, a lot of people, feel like we've fallen for that trap before in Iraq and in Kuwait, and that it could just be the same sort of fool's errand again.

32:49Yeah, exactly. So it's a great question. Why did America attack Iran after the failures of Afghanistan and Iraq? Well, and also Trump, our president, and said that we would not go to war with Iran. That's right. That's right. Yeah, what do you think's happening? Yeah. So I want to refer you to something called a clean break memo. Okay? Clean break memo? Yes. It's really important we understand this, if we understand what's going on. The clean break memo, maybe your producer can bring it up, the clean break memo written in 1996. Okay? Okay. And so let me give you some background. So Bill Clinton is in office, and Bill Clinton is obsessed with peace in the Middle East.

33:32Because it rhymes, probably. Probably, yeah, yeah. And the Israelis have decided that now is a good time for a two-state solution. And the reason why is that throughout its history, Israel was always in conflict with the other Arab nations around it because of the Palestinian issue. Right. And the idea is that if Israel is to have security, it needs to resolve the Palestinian issue. It needs to give the Palestinians its own state. And then once that happens, then the Arab nations can resume diplomatic relations with Israel. They can trade peacefully. And the Middle East will be prosperous and peaceful.

34:15But you first have to resolve the Palestinian issue. Because a lot of the Palestinians were Muslim, right? That's right. And a lot of the surrounding areas around Israel are also Muslim. That's right. So they're sympathetic towards the Muslims. So, for example, Saudi Arabia, the royal family said that as long as the Palestinian issue is not resolved, we will never ever have peace with Israel. So, this is what we call the Oslo Peace Process. Yeah, the Oslo Accords, right? That's right. That's right. And the majority of the Israeli population was in favor of this. And the major leader who was spearheading this movement in Israel is Iqzak Rabin.

34:55What's the name? Isaac Rabin. I'll spell it for you, okay?

35:01Isaac... Isaac? Isaac Rabin. Rabin. Isaac Rabin. Isaac Rabin. Yes, okay. Isaac Rabin. And he was determined to have eternal peace with the Pasoanians. So he resolved this issue once and for all by giving them a state. Okay? So he and Clinton were aligned with figuring this out. That's right. That's right. And they also had Arafat to help them out as well. And the Arab nations, especially Saudi Arabia, were very supportive of all of this process. But there was one person who was opposed to the peace process. His name is Benjamin Netanyahu. And he assembled a team of people, mainly Americans, who developed a new policy for him called the Clean Break Memo.

35:50And what the Clean Break Memo says, it's a very short document. It's only about a one page. What it says is screw peace because our neighbors are Arabs and they only understand power. So you want peace. You don't negotiate. You don't compromise. You hit them hard. You keep on hitting them hard until they respect you. Okay? So there are three major pillars to this strategy called the clean break. The first is go after the person's hard. Don't give them land. Don't compromise them. Teach them to respect you. Okay? Show power. Make them afraid of you. Okay. That's number one. Number two is you have to rejuvenate the Israeli economy by adopting neoliberalism.

36:41Forget socialism. Let's go with capitalism. Because at this time, socialism was very popular in Israel. And the third thing is to establish balance of power in the Middle East. Balance of power in the Middle East. And the way you do that is you destroy regimes that could potentially threaten you. This includes Syria and this includes Iraq. And so the strategy calls for working with Turkey and Jordan to destabilize Syria. and a cause for regime change in Iraq. Okay. It's called a clean break memo. Okay. A clean break, a new strategy for securing the realm, commonly known as a clean break report, is a policy document that was prepared in 1996 by a study group led by Richard Perle for Benjamin Netanyahu, then prime minister of Israel.

37:35The report explained a new approach to solving Israel's security problems in the Middle East with an emphasis on Western values, which that means, I guess, more like a capitalistic balance. That's right. That's right. It has since been criticized for advocating a policy of removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq. That's right. And the containment of Syria by engaging in proxy warfare and highlighting its possession of weapons of mass destruction. Certain parts of the policies set forth in the paper were rejected by Netanyahu. However, the report was ultimately adopted and serves as a foundation for modern-day Israeli global affairs.

38:05Is that true? Well, yeah. Yeah, so something really important for us to appreciate is the study group. There were two major participants in the study group, Richard Perle and also Douglas Fave. Okay, got it. Right. And this is important because these two are Americans. And a few years later, they will work for the Pentagon. And Douglas Fave and Richard Perle work with Paul Wolfowitz. And these three will become the architects of the Iraq War. Paul Wolfowitz? Yes. Okay. So you're saying two of the people that came up with the Clean Break memo. Yes. Then went on to work for the Pentagon. Yes. And they're the architects of the Iraq War.

38:49Okay. So they were architects of the Iraq War. Here we go. Douglas J. Faith, an American lawyer who served as Secretary of Defense for Policy. Faith has been described as an architect of the Iraq War. In the lead up to the war, he played a key role in promoting the false claim that the Saddam Hussein regime had an operational relationship with Al-Qaeda. a Pentagon inspector general report found that faith's office had developed, produced, and then disseminated alternative intelligent assessments on the Iraq and Al-Qaeda relationship, which included some conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the intelligence community to senior decision makers.

39:28The other thing about Douglas Fife is he has been suspected for a long time of being an Israeli asset. Okay. But despite that, he was still able to climb the hierarchy, which is very weird. Because the FBI and the CIA determined in the 1970s that he could possibly be an Israeli asset. Wow, so that's interesting that they thought that and then he was still able to climb the ranks. Very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but not only him, but Richard Perle was also suspected of being an Israeli asset. Richard Norman Perle is an American political advisor who served as the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Global Strategic Affairs under Ronald Reagan.

40:08Perle was an architect of the Iraq War. He claimed that Saddam Hussein regime possessed weapons of mass destruction. Okay. So we need to understand what the Clean Break Memoir really is. And what it really is, is a blueprint for the Greater Israel Project. And the Greater Israel Project is a belief among certain Zionists that the entire Middle East belongs to Israel. And just to be clear, this isn't Jewish people. We're talking about the Israeli government and extremist views, right? That's right. It's not necessarily a Jewish person. A Zionist is someone who believes in supremacy of Israel. Okay, so a Zionist is someone who believes in supremacy of Israel.

40:57Look it up, Nick, because I hear the term. We might have talked about it before. We've probably talked about it before some, but I don't know if you've ever looked it up. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement that emerged in late 19th century Europe to establish and support a Jewish homeland. What does ethnocultural nationalist mean, Nick? Can you click on that?

41:20Ethnic nationalism is a form of nationalism in which the nation and nationality are defined in terms of ethnicity. Yeah, what does that mean? Ethnicultural nationalism. What it really means is there are certain people, Zionists, who believe that God promised this land to the Jews and only the Jews. And therefore, only the Jews should be in this land. And therefore, the Pasadenaids have no right to be there. Therefore, our two-state solution goes against the will of God. Got it. That's what it really means. Okay, wow. But what about people who just believe that Jewish people deserve to have their own place as well?

42:01Is that Zionism? So there are different forms of Zionism. Okay. And what I'm referring to is an extreme form of Zionism that has taken hold over Israel. Okay. Because remember, in the 1990s, the majority of people were supportive of a two-state solution. They wanted peace with the Arabs. In the 1990s, is that true? Let's bring that up. Let me see. In the 1990s, the Israeli public was deeply divided rather than in full agreement regarding a two-state solution, while the signing of the Oslo Accords in 93 generated strong initial hope and fluctuating majority support for the peace process at various points.

42:36Substantial portions of the population, including right-wing political factions and the settler movement, opposed partitioning the land. So there was some support for it. Okay. Okay, so you have this extreme, so you have an extreme group. Yeah, the settlers, basically. Okay, so the group you're talking about is an extreme group that wanted that, that's supporting this clean break. That's right. That wanted a greater Israel. That's right. That's an extreme group. That's right. And they were led by Netanyahu. Okay. He became prime minister in 96 to implement the greater Israel project. Okay. It's been power for the past 20 years.

43:13And if you look at what's been happening in the Middle East, right? The Iraq war. And then after that, the invasion and regime change in Libya, in Syria, and now this attack against Iran. It is consistent with the clean break memo. Got it. And what is amazing is that this transcends politics. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are participating in the implementation of the clean break memo. You mean American Democrats and American Republicans are? That's right. So it was George W. Bush which launched a war against Iraq. but it was Obama who supported regime change in Syria and in Libya, which is also part of the Clean Break memo.

43:58What I want to do now is show you a video. This is important. We'll watch this video together. Okay? And so the video is General Wesley Clark, and he's talking to Amy Goodman. This is after 9-11. And so 9-11 was a traumatic event for Americans, And the assumption was that the U.S. military would seek vengeance against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda by attacking Afghanistan. But what Wesley Clark says is, no, no, no. We're not just going after Afghanistan. We're going after seven countries. And let's listen to what he says. And so this is a – but this – how do we know this isn't a – is this a theory or is this facts?

44:45That's what I'm wondering. Oh, it's all facts. The Clean Break Memo is a fact. And Wesley Clark saying this to Emmy Goodman, I mean, it's on YouTube. Okay, and this is U.S. Army General Wesley Clark, right? That's right. He's retired now. He's talking to Emmy Goodman about what happens after 9-11. Okay. About 10 days after 9-11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me. and one of the generals called me and he said, sir, you got to come in and talk to me a second.

45:18I said, well, you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, we've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq. This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, we're going to war with Iraq, why? He said, I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda? He said, no, no. He says, there's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments. And he said, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.

46:05So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. I said, is it classified? He said, yes, sir. I said, well, don't show it to me.

46:43So you're saying that this is part of the clean break memo. That's right. Because how else can you explain what's going on? And again, this is General Wesley Clark has access to confidential Pentagon information. He's saying that right after 9-11, they've already decided to go to war against the entire Middle East, finishing with Iran. And did we end up doing those things right there? Yes, we did. Well, not me, not us. Yeah, no, not us. Yeah, I would have been involved. I'm chill, yeah. I definitely, yeah. I mean, I have issues with my neighbors sometimes because of their dog or whatever. Yeah.

47:18Wasn't me, man. Yeah. So, but we've gone, but have we done those things that they said in that video, that have we attacked, have we gone to war with those places? Yeah. What was the places he listed? So, Syria, right? That's done. Libya. Iraq Was it Somalia one of them? Yeah Iraq, Syria, Libya Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan and Iran So Iran's the last one on the list It's his final boss Final boss That's right Wow Yeah The final boss Oh That's the Mike Tyson right there Yeah So But why Why do you feel like So you you feel like America is working at the behest of the Israeli government of Netanyahu's choices?

48:11Well, like, what do you think that relationship is there? Well, it seems. Yeah, because if this is true, then it would say that America is working at the behest of Netanyahu and some of these other people who this is what they want, right? Or is this what we want? Yeah. So again, there's a pattern here, right? So I'm not trying to make a judgment. All I'm trying to do is point out a pattern that's emerging. Where in 96, they write the clean break memo encouraging Netanyahu to choose a path of war and dominance in the Middle East. And to clean break away from the Oslo peace process. And that's exactly what he's been doing for the past 20 years.

48:54Okay. Then these people, specifically Richard Perle and Douglas Fife, they go work for the Pentagon and they help implement a lot of the clean-back memo policies by starting a war against Iraq for no particular reason. And then for no particular reason, what happens is the Americans attack Libya, Syria, destabilize the regime, cause millions of refugees to flow into Europe. And now we have this war in Iran and we don't even know why Trump attacked Iran. And you point this out, he's been saying for a long time that he would not do so. So what's going on here, right? Like if the United States was not doing this at the behest of Israel, then how can we explain what's going on?

49:38Right. Right? Now, what I'll do now is use game theory to explain why Israel would want this. Okay. Right? Because so this will be hard for Americans to understand, all right? For Americans to understand? But like Wesley Clark says, we need to remove seven nations in five years. And they're doing that, right? Iran is the final boss. And the idea is there are Zionists who want to achieve the Greater Israel Project. And the idea of the Greater Israel Project is that Israel will dominate the Middle East. And only if Israel does that will Jews have security in the Middle East. Okay. Weren't they secure before?

50:19Like, I don't understand why they weren't secure. Right. So they weren't secure because the Palestinians were in revolt against them. The Palestinians felt that they were being oppressed, that their land was stolen from them. And so they were engaging in terrorist activities against the Israelis, including bus bombings, including airplane hijackings. But why wouldn't Israel just figure that out instead of go this other big route? It seems like, you know what I'm saying? And it seems like if it's me figuring out something with a neighbor as opposed to battling the whole town, it would seem like more at my behest, like a wiser choice to just figure out something with my neighbor.

50:58Right. Because you have a brother who's kind of crazy. And your brother believes that this house is not their house. It's our house. Okay. Which was stolen by this other family. And so we have a right to go take it back from them. Okay. And there's nothing you can do about your crazy brother. Yeah, who's the crazy brother? Basically, yes. Okay, got it. Right? And these are people we call the settlers, right? Okay. These are people who go against Israeli national law and go and forcefully evict Palestinians from their homes, even if this is against Israeli national law. Yeah. I know there's a lot of cases of that.

51:37You can see them on YouTube, too, of people getting evicted from their homes for no reason, people taking people's land, a lot of heartbreaking stuff out there. Okay, so now you're showing me, what is this you're looking at here? So let's just take what we know and draw things to the logical conclusion. This is game theory. This is game theory, okay? If you believe that this land was given to you by God, and it says so in the Bible, okay? And you believe that it is Israel's destiny to dominate the Middle East, your real enemy is not Iran, right? Who's your real enemy? the United States of America.

52:14Oh, the United States. Right. Because the United States provides security guarantees to many Arab nations. Saudi Arabia is protected by the United States. And Saudi Arabia is part of the Greater Israel Project. Egypt is protected by the United States. Egypt is also part of the Greater Israel Project. Right? So what you need to do is remove both Iran and the United States from the equation. And the best way to do that is to have them go to war against each other. Right? And then Israel is the last nation standing. And then they achieved the Greater Israel Project. This is game theory, by the way.

52:51This is game theory. Yeah. But how would you, like, how would America, I mean, our country's way over here and I know that's like, I know that doesn't mean everything that we have this geographical space, but how would we, like, how would we be defeated in it? Well, we would be, like the United States would be defeated if this war becomes so unpopular at home that the people revolt and that forces the American military to retreat back to American borders. Okay. So then we would lose that war, but we wouldn't lose our country though. Yeah. I mean, the United States wouldn't lose their country, but they would lose the empire.

53:34Yeah. Oh, so we would completely remove ourselves from the Middle East. You're saying remove ourselves from all of our allies, and then Israel would have the ability to control them. That's right. But why doesn't Israel just go control them and not even involve us? Because Saudi Arabia and the other nations of the Middle East, they have a lot of money, and they invest hundreds of dollars in the U.S. economy in exchange for U.S. protection. Got it. Yeah. Wow. Wow. You know, one thing that has scared me, and I've heard a lot of people talk about it, was a lot of the technology and stuff that was used in Palestine during a lot of the genocide over there.

54:17It's like drones being used to kill people, being used to kill children. We had a doctor on who was talking about children getting shot just right down through their bodies, in a way that was like it seemed very logical that drones were the ones that were doing it. all the reporters being killed there so that nobody could transfer any real information out of the, out of the world over there. One of those things, especially with the technology, and then you start to see the surveillance stuff happening in America, it starts to make you think, well, what, why wouldn't that, why wouldn't it come here?

54:50Like if, you know, like, that's certainly a fear that I hear a lot is that, that we're going to become in this surveillance state. And then the same thing could happen to us over here. if we're out of line with who, with, um, if Israel to gain control of America and then we're out of line with something that they see or some behavior or something, um, or they want to move people here off of their land, you know, it's, it's that, that's something that's very scary. Yeah. So if you look at Gaza, I think Gaza, um, is the, uh, pilot for a surveillance state. You think it's pilot for what? For a surveillance state.

55:26Yeah. As a testing ground. That's a testing ground for because the theory is that once Israel achieves the greater Israel project, it now needs to control this entire area. And there aren't that many Jews. So it needs certain technology in order to control the local population. What I think will happen, and this is going to shock a lot of people, is right now, Israel is very close with India. And India, the population is booming, and there's a lot of young people. And if you just let them stay in India, they're going to revolt against you because the economy's not doing so well. So what if Israel and India were to get together and says, hey, let's bring in millions of Indians to work now in the Middle East because war has destroyed the population in the Middle East.

56:12And now you can use surveillance technology to control these Indians. And the Indian people are used to a caste system anyway. So the idea that the Jews are at the very top, right? And the Indians are working class, like doing the labor. and it's all been controlled by surveillance technology, well, you would achieve the Greater Israel Project. Wow. And do you think that's what's going on? I think that's the direction we're moving towards. Whether or not they will succeed, I can't really say, but I think that's the plan. But the people, surely the people of Israel don't want to see all that, like they don't want to see so many people get killed and that sort of stuff happen.

56:52You think they want to? I think Israel may be heading towards a civil war between two places. You have Tel Aviv, which is the gayest city in the world. Very liberal, very cosmopolitan. You mean gays like people being gay? I mean like real gays. Like men that hug each other? Yeah, and women can hug each other too. Oh, yeah. Okay, I don't know if you're using it like hypothetical. Like homosexuals. Okay, yeah. Yeah, gays. Sorry. Yeah, just regular gays. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know if we were talking about a different branch of gays. I didn't know what was going on. Yeah, like, yeah. Yeah, just gays.

57:25Yeah, yeah. And they have Jerusalem, which is very conservative, very religious. So these are two competing visions of Israel. And unfortunately, the people in Jerusalem are the ones with the power, and they are extreme in their religious vision, okay? Yeah, I just—well, I know they have an election coming up over there. That's right. They do, yes. And so that's—I just feel like—is that going to determine a lot? because I feel bad for a lot of my Jewish friends here who do not want to be associated. It's heartbreaking to them. My friend Michael's always talking to me. It's like to make sure to just because Israel doesn't mean Jewish people.

58:05It doesn't mean it's the government. That's right. So I want to use religion to show you how extreme these people are. Okay. So the Holocaust was a traumatic event, and 6 million Jews died. Let me ask you this question. Okay. why did the Holocaust happen? Did you know Sam's Club isn't a store? It's actually a club with cool finds and like a whole community. It's a club. Of course, Jason. It's in the name, Sam's Club. Oh, yeah. Come join us. Sam's Club. The Holocaust happened, I guess, because of an ideology that was created by Hitler and his regime. Yeah, it was Hitler's fault, right? Okay, so...

58:48Thank you. The extremist Jews are called Kabbalists, the Kabbalah. And they have an extreme vision of how the universe works. And the deep, dark secret that they have about the Holocaust is the Jews deserved it. So let me explain why. If you read the Bible, the Bible, the Old Testament basically, it's fundamentally about the relationship between God and his chosen people, the Jews. And problems arise when the Jews turn away from God. So for example, when Moses was leading the people from exile in Egypt to the promised land, the people chose to worship an idol. And the first commandment is do not worship false idols.

59:42So God had to punish them by making them wander the desert for 40 years. And this is a consistent theme throughout the Old Testament where Jews suffer because they turn away from God. So the most traumatic event in the Bible is the destruction of the first temple where the Babylonians come in and destroy the first temple. Now, if you read the Bible, the book is Jeremiah. What Jeremiah the prophet says is, the Babylonians are not the enemy of God. They are the tool of God to punish the Israelites for turning away from God. Okay. Right? So, if you just extend the logic, then the logic is this. Why did the Holocaust happen?

1:00:29Not because of Hitler, but because the Jews turned away from God. And so, there's groups that believe that? That's right. So at this point in history, the year 1900, when Zionism comes into being, most Jews think Zionism is retarded. I'm a Jewish person living in Germany, living in the United States, living in England. I've assimilated into society. I'm a professor. I'm a doctor. I'm doing well for myself. I'm secular. I have lots of friends who are Christians. And what does secular mean? Secular means non-religious. Okay. Right? So it's like, why would I go to a desert called Palestine? It's not even called Israel, it's called Palestine, where there was already people living there.

1:01:14And it's like literally a desert, right? So only about 3 % of the global Jewish population at this point in history, the years 1900, actually support the idea of Zionism. Okay. Right? So the Holocaust had to happen in order to force the Jews to hold the covenant with God. Because the Jews were created as God's chosen people. They were the light of nations. They were meant to show true faith in God and therefore be virtuous and be the moral guidance for the world. Okay, so they were chosen to be an example of God. They're chosen to be the light of nations. They're chosen to be the best representatives of humanity.

1:02:00Okay. Yes. So you're saying that some devout Jewish people or religious or extreme, this is an extreme group, believe that the Holocaust was supposed to happen because the people in the Bible had turned away from God. Right. Is that what you're saying? Yes or no, you're saying? Okay, so let me clarify what they believe the mission of the Jewish people is. The mission of the Jewish people is to return to Israel, create the Greater Israel Project, which is the Promised Land, and then build the Third Temple, which will be the house of God. Okay. So the purpose of history is to force a reunion between the Jewish people and God.

1:02:53And once that happens, then the world will end and we will be in paradise forever. So three things must happen for this world to end. Okay? The first thing that must happen is the greater Israel project has to be achieved. And therefore, we have these wars in the Middle East. But why would that have to be achieved if that was something that was just developed 30 years ago? Because according to these people, the original covenant between the Jewish people and God is that God promised them the land stretching from the Nile in Egypt to Euphrates in Iraq as the covenant. And the Jewish people, once they receive this land, they must be loyal to God.

1:03:39So for God to return, first of all, his promise must be kept. So the first thing is the Greater Israel Project must be achieved. Second thing that must happen is all Jewish people must return to Israel and repent. Meaning, if you don't believe in God, you have to believe in God if you're Jewish. Meaning if you're homosexual, if you're Jewish, you better tighten it up. You better learn how to, you know? You better figure it out. Yeah, you know. Dang. Yeah. That's going to be a long day. Yeah, yeah. Start liking this, man. So that's the third thing. And the third thing is the third temple must be built because that's where God will live.

1:04:23Okay, got it. But the problem is the site of the third temple is now where the Al-Azharic Mosque is. The Al-Azharic Mosque is the third holiest site in the Muslim world. So if they destroyed the Isaac Mosque in order to build a third temple, this would trigger a religious war between Jews and the Muslims. Oh, wow. Yeah. So these are three things that must happen according to the eschatology. Okay. But you're not saying that's going to happen. You're saying that if you look at that, that's according to what? Is that according to? That's according to their eschatology, which is what they believe how the world ends and how we achieve heaven on earth.

1:05:02But who believes that? Like my Jewish friends, I don't think, believe that. That's right. That's right. Wait, wait. What's right? They do believe or they don't believe? They don't believe this. Okay. This theory, okay? What I just told you, the vast majority of Jewish people who are religious think this is heresy. Okay. This is madness. It's insane. Okay. The problem is that this ideology is promoted by secret societies around the world. Okay. And secret societies control the world. And that's why we're seeing a lot of things happen. Because how else can you explain why the United States is attacking Iran for no particular reason?

1:05:40I mean, it's definitely, look, I think a lot of people believe it. It's at the behest of Israel. There's some involvement there. But I think, yeah, but after that, it's like, yeah, you kind of don't know why. A lot of it's just like questions. And you don't get a lot of information sometimes. Like, you know, you'll ask political figures and stuff, why are we so embedded here? And a lot of them don't have an answer. and so I think that's the part that seems kind of alarming and I think that's also the part when you don't get a lot of clear information that's when a lot of like conspiracy theories different ideas uncertainties ideas like this even start to take even more shape because you don't know you're not and you're not getting information from people who should know So I think it's like, I do understand how people can start to, yeah, it makes perfect sense how people can start to believe things and how people can start to look into things because there's no place to get real news anymore.

1:06:36There's no place to get the information. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of things that are happening right now just defy human logic. So everyone's looking at Donald Trump and is like, the war is lost already. Just make peace with Iran. Just get out of there. And what Trump is doing is doing, he's doing tackle. Like one day he's like, we're going to end your civilization. And the other day is like, let's make peace, guys. Let's just be friends. And the next day he's like, no, I'm going to nuke you now. The next day he's like, oh, you know what? I didn't really mean that. It's just weird. Yeah. It feels bizarre.

1:07:11It feels pointless, but it matches with everything feels bizarre right now. And like the way that Trump is behaving right now goes against his character. Because in the 80s and 90s, he was a real estate developer. He was a business person, right? He understood like if you do business, you need to have credibility. You can't flip flop because like everyone will be scared of you. I agree. That's actually a really good point. I mean, even when he was running for office, it seemed like every other thing, it seemed like he knows exactly what he's talking about. It seems like he knows exactly where he stands.

1:07:42So it's just really weird situation where how the United States is behaving in the Middle East, it goes against American interests. And the way that Donald Trump is behaving, it goes against his character. He's never behaved like this before. You mentioned a little bit ago about secret societies, right? Yes. Can you take me into some of that and how—and you said that you believe that that's some of what is controlling some of this? Secret societies rule the world, okay? You believe secret societies rule the world? Yes. Okay. So let me explain why that's the case. Okay. All right. So the power in the world is what we call transnational capital.

1:08:21And transnational capital, all it means is money that is able to move freely around the world and invest where it wants and extract profit from these places. And so transnational capital would include pension funds. It would include sovereign wealth funds. It would include private capital, such as State Street, Vanguard, Wall Street, City of London. China has a huge sovereign wealth fund, doesn't it? That's right. So, transnational capital is a huge entity. And they say money makes the world go around. So, transnational controls the world. So, money controls the world, you're saying? Basically.

1:09:03Got it. Okay, so, but the problem is that Trans-Challenge Capital is a game. It's a gain? It's a game. Game. Right, because you're trying to maximize your profit. You're trying to beat others in the stock market. And in any game, there's a certain way to win, right? And the answer, and so, like, how do you win every single game? Like, no matter what game you play, what's the secret to winning every game? Get to the end. The answer is you cheat. Okay? You play by the rules. You work hard. And you play fair. You're a sucker. Okay? To win the game, you have to cheat. And the best way to cheat is to secretly conspire with others to rig the game in your favor.

1:09:50Okay? And that's why we have secret societies. Right? Because to win the game of capital, you need three things. First of all, you need access to secret information. You need to know more things than other people know. Second thing you need is infiltration. You need your people to go into government in order to create policies that favor you. The third thing is you need coordination, conspiracy between these different groups in order to create an outcome that you want. So an example is the Rothschild family. And the Rothschild family became one of the most powerful banking companies in the world because they had a secret network of agents scattered throughout Europe.

1:10:29So in 1815, Napoleon fights the Battle of Waterloo. And obviously he loses. And the Rothschild has an agent who witnessed the battle. Then he sends his information back to England on a Corvette, which is a fast ship. Then what happens is rumors spread that the English lost the war. And now there's tremendous fear. But that wasn't true. It was not true. They won. But the first rumor— The agent got there and spread a rumor. Well, we don't know, okay? But there were rumors that they lost the war, which created a panic. And the Rothschild were able to make a lot of money doing that, okay? And this is very common.

1:11:13And so this shows you an example of how information is crucial if you want to win the game of transnational capital. Got it. Right? So the Corvette got there, the fast ship got there and knew in advance that— The Rothschild was new in advance. that the battle had been won. And three days later, official news came to the British public. Tell them that the battle had been won. But during these three days, there's mass panic because rumors are spreading that the battle has been lost. I see. So the Rothschilds was able to capitalize on that panic financially. That's right. And so that's when people started realizing, oh, we can do this.

1:11:50Right, right. And so think about the world that we live in today, right? Where if you have like one minute of confidential information, You're able to make millions, billions, right? So the question is like, how do you access this information? Well, you do so through transnational networks. And throughout history, there've been three major transnational networks in Europe. The first is the Freemasons. The second are the Jesuits. And the third are the Jewish diaspora. And at some point, they figured out, why don't we just work together? And what they call themselves. The Illuminati. Damn. Yeah.

1:12:32I heard about it. My black friends are always talking about them, man. Yeah. The Illuminati. Dang. They got us. The Illuminati is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name usually refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1st, 1776 in the electorate of Bavaria. the Illuminati along with Freemasonry and other secret societies were outlawed through edict by Charles Theodore and the subsequent use Illuminati has been used when referring to various organizations alleged to be a continuation of the original Illuminati these organizations have often been accused of conspiring to control world affairs by masterminding events and planting agents in governments and corporations in order to gain political power, influence, and establish a new world order Dun, dun, dun.

1:13:23I mean, at the end of the day, if traditional capital controls the world, you need to decide just to win the game. Got it. So in addition to there being countries, there's these different countries. They're above countries. But they're above countries. Right. Wow. And so they'll have members of different countries that are part of them. So think of Jeffrey Epstein, right? Uh-huh. So everyone thought that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent. He was above Mossad. Wow. Dang. Yeah. Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein's still alive? I don't think he's alive. Yeah, because... Do you think he died in the jail cell?

1:13:56Yes, because he's expendable. What is the basic code, do you think, of the Illuminati? Do you think they have a code? That's a great question, okay? So when you have these secret societies, we have to remember secret societies are just a natural outcome of the game of transnational capital. So you have many different secret societies in place. And so which societies have the greatest advantage? And the answer is those who practice eschatology have the greatest advantage. Eschatology? Right. Eschatology is the belief in that God will end the world at some point. Okay. And so why are you... So why is it that eschatological societies are superior to other secret societies?

1:14:47And the reason why is they're able to channel the religious energy of millions of people. So why we're having this war in the Middle East, it's not just secret societies. It's also the fact that you have tens of millions of Christian Zionists, Christian evangelicals who support Israel. So if you're an investor, there are three ways to make the most money. the first is war second is revolution and the third is religion so these two studies through the eschatology are always supporting war revolution and religion because if you're a millionaire well you invest your money in the stock market but if you're a trillionaire you invest your money in war revolution and religion wow but don't you do you think that sometimes it's kind of a like is it like if you think of it all like that, right?

1:15:47Doesn't it feel pretty dark? It is dark. But once you actually study the eschatology, once you study the religion, it actually gives you hope. Because what motivates these people is not greed. It's not power. It's faith. They're accelerationists. They believe that God has a divine plan. And all I'm doing is helping God accelerate this plan. Wow. Oh, my gosh, dude. What the heck? So that's part of some people's faith. They have a strong enough faith that they believe that what they're doing is helping to accelerate it. That's right. Oh, my gosh. I don't even know what to think anymore. And that's why things are happening so fast.

1:16:40Dude, it does. Yeah. It feels like things are happening so fast. Yeah. That's it. It's just like, what is it's happening so fast. Yeah. So how does this end?

1:16:53I mean, that's kind of dark, but, um, maybe we just leave it to be continued. Yeah. But we can pray that that doesn't happen because we don't know that that's, we don't know that's going to happen. Right. They put their faith in God. We should put our faith in God. Amen. Yeah. That's where my faith is. Yep. In Jesus name, man. Amen. Brother. We just have to keep our faith where we can, and we can control what we can control. And it's always, if that's the case, and it's always been part of something, and it's like, all we can do is just do what we can and try our best by our own compass, right?

1:17:25That's right. Amen. That's right. Amen. Jesus, believe in Jesus. Yeah. Amen. You are Chinese? Yes, thank you. I asked. Okay, sorry. Just making sure i didn't know yeah i don't know for sure if you are or not um what what's what's some people has anybody ever said they thought you were a plant that you they thought oh yeah yeah yeah what do you get okay so now and then because you'd be a good chinese asset yeah yeah well there are people who believe i'm the antichrist there are people who believe that i'm in my chinese classroom with my whiteboard and my white my whiteboard is magical so i can actually like direct the course of human events with my with my whiteboard i'm just there and i'm just like, I want war, and I want, you know, and I'm like, I'm not the Antichrist.

1:18:11Okay. I swear to you, I'm not the Antichrist. Okay. I'm going to be a Chinese spy, but I'm not the Antichrist. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of that, speaking of China, what is China's relationship right now? Where do they play a role? Because you didn't factor them into this at all. Yeah. China looks at what's happening, and they're like, what the fuck is going on? What the hell are you guys doing? That's China. Do you think that they're hyper worried? Do they have a lot of intelligence assets that are over here working in the Middle East? What do you think is going on? I'm sure because they obviously they're a world power.

1:18:46They're going to be concerned and involved. Yeah. So the problem with China is that Chinese are non-religious. So it's almost impossible for Chinese to appreciate what's happening in the Middle East. But they're capitalists, though. They're capitalists and they want this war to end as soon as possible because they want people to trade with each other. Chinese don't go to war. They trade. And so everyone in China is just completely confused. But historically, there's been war in China. Well, there's war within China, but China doesn't really go out and invade other countries the way that the United States does.

1:19:30So what is America's current relationship with China? Do you feel like I've had friends recently say that they think the safest place to move in the world right now is China. Yeah, I think I think that what's happening is a domino effect where the war in the Middle East is out of control. It engulfs everyone. So like a World War Three. Yeah. And it's like total war. And what would the sides be? It would be complete chaos. So the idea is that the world will break out into regional wars. So imagine in Europe, NATO is fighting Russia in Ukraine. And there's a possibility that Russia may take over the Baltic countries, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and maybe even attack Poland.

1:20:27So imagine all of Europe is now in flames. You move over to the Middle East and everyone's at East Asia's throat, right? You move over to East Asia, what the most likely scenario is that China is in conflict with Japan and North Korea is in conflict with South Korea. The real danger in East Asia is not China. It's actually North Korea because North Koreans have absolutely nothing to lose. They're kind of crazy and they're brave. So North Koreans have been sending soldiers to fight in Ukraine and they fight to the death. Is that true? Yeah, 10 ,000 North Korean troops. There's 10 ,000 North Korean troops in Ukraine right now?

1:21:13Yeah, in Ukraine. That's right. And they fight to the death. And the reason why is they're captured. Their family members back in North Korea get killed? Yeah. No way. Welcome to a dictatorship. ship. North Korea continues to expand its military support for Russia in the war against Ukraine. In addition to sending troops and weaponry, Pyongyang is now said to have deployed a missile unit to Western Russia. Wow. By the end of 2024, Ukraine, the United States, and the South Korea estimated that around 10 ,000 to 12 ,000 North Korean soldiers have been sent to Russia. And that's just 2024. That's right.

1:21:47So they're trying to reach them to 30 ,000. Wow. Yeah. Unbelievable. I've heard you talk about the grand bargain. Yes. With China, and that's between America and China? That's right. Tell me a little more about that. Right. So there are two nations that currently benefit the most from the current global economic order. They are the United States and China. The United States, obviously, because it controls the U.S. dollar. But China as well, because China was able to live millions out of poverty because of global trade. Right. So both are heavily invested in maintaining the current global order.

1:22:22And so the idea of a grand bargain is that they resolve the Taiwan issue where basically China and Taiwan sign an agreement where they reconcile politically and the United States withdraws from East Asia and allows China to maybe dominate East Asia. Okay, understood. So that's something that China would want, probably just a little bit more assurance that they don't have to deal with America over there. That's right. But also, like, for China, Taiwan is a huge political issue because, you know, there's something called a century of humiliation where China was coughed up in the 19th century by the Russian powers.

1:23:09And having Taiwan back in the fold of the motherland would be a tremendous political achievement because it would mean the reunification of the motherland, the completion of the motherland. And that's something that China would pay a huge price for. And right now, the United States needs China to buy more U.S. treasuries. So that's the idea of the grand bargain. Got it. What do you think is going on with America right now? Do you feel like we're still the world's economic superpower?

1:23:40It's an empire in decline. It's like I'm just walking the streets of Los Angeles, and it really seems that America is on the brink of a civil war. Really? You think that? Yeah. How would that happen, though? Yeah, I think that the midterms will be a major test of the cohesion of this country. and what I think may happen is Trump may go for a third term. No way. How could he do it? Can't you only go for two terms? So according to the Constitution, there's something called the 22nd Amendment, which says that a U.S. president may not sit for more than two terms. But there's a loophole. The loophole is imagine 2028.

1:24:33Don Jr. is at the top of the ticket. and Donald Trump is the vice president. They win, and then Don Jr., he resigns, and then Donald Trump is now the president again. No way. You think that's going to happen? I think there's a strong possibility this could happen. But also there's the War Powers Act, where America's at war, and so they just start in the Constitution, which is what happened in Ukraine. That's why Ukraine could not have an election? Right, because they're at war. And if they could have an election, would they still elect Zelensky, do you think? Probably not. Got it. Yeah.

1:25:12There's a lot of darkness out there. Yeah. What are some positives that you see? What are things, what's a positive way that you see out of some of this? And please have an answer for me, Professor. Yeah, family, love, God. I mean, that's why we're here. We're here to experience things that we couldn't experience anywhere else because we're eternal souls. Like once you appreciate that this is only – the thing that we're experiencing here is only a journey and an eternity of experiences. And that we're here to experience things that are unique to this world. And one thing that's unique to this world is family, like having children.

1:25:51So – And love. And love, exactly. Hugging somebody. Exactly. Yeah, doing your best. Yeah. Being supportive, sharing. So if you just focus on what's happening geopolitically, you'll go insane. You'll literally go insane. Are you insane yet? I have a family. Okay. So I have a wife who loves me. So I want to tell you the story of how my wife and I met. And you can appreciate how much we love each other. Okay. Okay. So we met each other about 10 years ago. And I'm about 40. And this is like the darkest moment in my life. What was going on? Well, I was unemployed. I had no place to stay. And I was depressed.

1:26:35And I felt that life was hopeless. And I literally believed that my wife was an angel sent by God to redeem me, to save me, to show me that love is possible. so that one day I could be sitting across from you telling the world that love is possible. And if we just move towards love, then we will redeem the world. But so I meet my wife randomly and we go on a first date. Where'd you meet her at? I met her randomly at an event. And it was like love at first sight. And I asked for a number, I called her out. And if you ask for it, God will give it to you. And I was asking for someone who could be my wife.

1:27:22I wanted to start a family. And so we go on this date. And I took us someplace really nice in Beijing. We go to a Japanese restaurant. I order sake. And it's a lovely date. Now, the custom in China is that on the first date, if you really like someone, the woman will will get serious suddenly okay I mean you could be laughing throughout but suddenly the woman will get really serious look at you dead in the eye and ask you how much money do you make like what's the size of your bank account really that's a serious that's a real thing that happens yeah because in the United States you like you know they'll ask you what your dick size is right yeah something we're a more advanced civilization so we ask like how much money you have got it yeah for sure It's okay.

1:28:10And I'm really afraid we reached this point, right? So this date is going fantastic. We're two hours, and we're just laughing. We're connecting. We're simpatico. And then my date, my future wife, gets serious, looks at me dead in the eye. And I'm freaking out. I'm trembling. I'm nervous because like— Because you don't have a job. I don't have a fucking job, man. And so she looks at me in the eye and she asked me, so are you gay? And I felt such relief. I knew she's the one, man. She gets me. Right? She doesn't care if I'm poor. She just cares if I'm gay. Yes. I can work with that. Yeah, dude, of course.

1:28:58Yeah. Oh, yeah. But it's like these moments that make this world so wonderful. and so blessed. So we should just focus on moments like this. Yeah. Yeah, moments where people are asking if you're gay or not. Yeah, well, it's better than asking your dick size or your bank account. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think, yeah, it is better than asking how much money you make. Yeah. I'm so happy that you got somebody. Yeah. Because you were 40 and you didn't think you were going to have someone. That's right. I thought that I was, my life, I was adrift. I thought that life was pointless. What were you doing?

1:29:32Were you living at home? No, I was like literally living from place to place with my suitcase. I had no place to live. I was unemployed. Don't they give you a job in China? Like, tell me a little bit more. What is it like in China? Yeah, yeah. So I went to China to work as an education reformer. So I believe like the best way to build a good future. But you grew up there. No, no. So my background is I was born in China. but when I was six I moved over to Canada and that's where I grew up then I went to Yale University dang cool yeah yeah and then I went back to China to help reform the school system I love Canada man did you live in Winnipeg?

1:30:15no I lived in Toronto oh dang yeah I'm hoping my friend Diego Pavia goes up there and plays for Canada yeah like you know Canada's really cool but you know we're a bit slow we have five years of high school rather than four yeah so you know our IQ is a bit lower than the Americans but you guys have great posture up there. Canada has some of the best posture in the whole world, I've noticed. That's something that I've noticed. Okay, so you end up back over there in China. But yeah, is it like, do you hear a lot of stories that people can only have one child? What are some of the policies that are true over there that we hear about?

1:30:46Well, the one child policy was true for a long time, but then Chinese were aging, and there were not enough children to support the elderly. And then the birth rate was declining, and so they promoted policies to encourage more fertility. And now you can have as many children as you want. Nice. But I mean, the reality is like most young people do not want to have children. It's a situation, I mean, it's a similar situation throughout the world. Like in the United States, young Americans don't have children. Europeans are the same way. Right now, the fertility rate in East Asia, in South Korea, I think it's 0.6.

1:31:28in China's 1.0 in Japan it's like 1.2 1.3 but it's really low World Population Prospects the United Nations publisher what chart is this Nick can you tell me? Yeah it's I think this is world fertility rate In 1963 it was 5.3 births per woman and now it's 2.2 births per woman Huh That's wild and China has 1.0 One birth per woman. Yeah. And wait, who has that big... Go to the top and hit the tops. Chad, Congo, they have six births per women. Niger, Mozambique, five births per women. So my wife has seven college roommates. There's eight in her dorm. And we have three kids. Oh, you guys have three kids.

1:32:20We have three kids. And I met your one son, Christopher. He's here today. That's right. That's right. Yes. And so she, they're in their 30s, which is a prime age to have children. And collectively, they have three kids. Yeah. So it's not happening. No, it's not happening. Yeah. We've looked at some stuff today that seems kind of dour, but it's also interesting. Do you think that peace is an option? And how would we get there, do you feel like? Like, what has to adjust? I think that for the longest time We've trusted our leaders To I agree with you We thought they had our best interests That's right, that's right And in fact, they're controlled by secret societies And they're crazy people Who want to achieve their eschatology And it's time for us to wake up And if we collectively wake up Then we will achieve peace in this world But waking up is a hard process As you know, right?

1:33:18It's a very hard process. It means going against social conventions. It means defying all that you've been taught. It means losing a lot of friends and family in the process. Have you suffered from even speaking out about certain things? Have you had any issues come your way? Have you ever feared for your safety? Have you had people that have spoken up against you? What's that been like for you? Yeah. So one thing that I think a lot about is what are the consequences for telling the truth, for speaking up, for drawing attention to six societies? And here's my logic. I think that these people get to where they are because they really do believe in God.

1:34:09But the God they believe in may not be the God that we believe in. right? But they really do believe in God. And they really believe that what they're doing is doing God's will and they're accelerating events that were predestined by God since the beginning of time. And so I present a paradox to them because I seem to know their plans, right? And so if I don't get their plans correct, then I'm an idiot and they can just ignore me. But, if I'm able to articulate their plans, then how am I able to know all this? Because I'm not part of the strict societies. I don't know any of these people. But at the same time, I know how they think and I know what their plan is.

1:35:00So, they can't resolve this paradox. the only thing they can do is ignore me. I'm kind of dissonance. Does that make sense? Right. If they were to come for you, then it would prove that there's something true about their plan. Is that what you're saying? No. So in their mindset, the only way I could know their plan is if God told me their plan. But they think that they're doing God's work. So how to explain the fact that God's telling them what to do, but also God's telling me to tell the world... That their plan's bad. What the plans are. So they're like, well, we don't know how to resolve this.

1:35:41So let's just ignore this guy. Yeah.

1:35:46Do you... Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. One more point is the idea of... So there's a theory out there that a lot of these societies, they reveal to you what their plan is. And the reason why is, let's just say they screw up and they blow up the world. And we all go to heaven. And then God asks, hey, so what happened? How did you blow up the earth? Well, most of us would be like, we didn't know what was going on. So they get all the blame. But let's just say they tell us their entire plan. Then it's all of our fault. Then it's all our fault. We're complicit in our own destruction. Right? So maybe I'm a useful tool.

1:36:34Maybe I'm a useful idiot who mysteriously is able to decipher their plans. I'm telling them the world what's happening. But the secret side is like, that's cool of us. Because now everyone knows what's happening and they do nothing. Everyone's complicit. And so, yeah. We've all become very complicit with things being okay. Yeah. Is it the same in China? Yes. Yes. Exactly. It's kind of heartbreaking sometimes. It's like, I don't know what happened. I don't know if there's been like this slow sedation. I can't tell what has occurred. I can't tell if, you know, I don't know. It all just feels like we've lost some of our...

1:37:16The great truth is that we're all spiritual beings. That's true. We are first and foremost spiritual beings. That's true. But materialism has corrupted us. We should be focused on our spiritual well-being, on our consciousness, on elevating ourselves, on being generous, on being open, on being spiritual. And now we live in a world where money is everything. So we just pursue materialism. Right, we're so, yeah, you're so focused your whole life and it's all built towards this. You gotta go to school to get a grade, to get a college, to get a job, to get a thing, and then get it from a, and to get a house.

1:37:54There's everything is like the next carrot. It's always something. We are in the matrix and we have to wake up. Wow. Dang. We are in the matrix. Hello. We're in here. We want out. Whoever's seeing us, we want out.

1:38:15Help. We're in an interesting spot, it feels like, with... Oh, was that CERN accelerated? Did that have anything to do with how time has been adjusted, do you think? Or no, do you see anything with that? I don't know much about that. I don't know much about it either, okay. One thing I wanted to ask you before you leave, financially, you've talked about the transnational capital. Yeah. What would you do with money or assets right now? What do you feel like the future of that could look like? Have you thought about that much? Yeah. So I think that the world is heading towards financial collapse.

1:38:51And it's pretty clear with the AI bubble, right? where they're building these data centers and it's really uncertain how they will make money out of these data centers. And it really seems the A bubble is going to burst and it really seems that the United States is heading towards financial collapse. And so I think that trying to figure out where to put your money, it's a dead end. You have to think about how do I lift my consciousness so that I'm ready to help myself as well as others in that time of crisis Ah, okay Right, so what could I create right now? What could I start to have around me?

1:39:37Or what knowledge could I start to have? Yes Because if the grid goes down, suddenly you're just back to your own knowledge That's right And dude, a lot of us, if we had to go back to our own knowledge, bro Yeah Shit would be bunk Yeah, we're dead Yeah. So, but it will be exciting. Yeah. But I do think you're right. It's like, what skills would you have? What can you apply? How could you help someone? What could you offer? Yeah. And in a weird way, man, I feel like it's almost what we could use the most. Is that scary to say that? Look, I think that what you do, telling jokes, is exactly what we will need in a time of crisis.

1:40:15We need in a time of darkness to see the light. and laughing is the best way to see the light. Yeah. Yeah, man. Telling stories, being a part of joy, sitting around with people laughing. That's my favorite thing. That's right. Yeah, sometimes I got lost, I think, on just like what was important, you know? The past few years, it's been fun. I've been having a good time, but some of it's just been like, yeah, I don't know. You get focused and you kind of, you don't lose yourself, but you feel a little disconnected from yourself, Yeah. So I work in school reform. And what my theory is that a school should be centered around laughter.

1:40:58Because if kids come into class laughing, they learn the best. They're engaged. They're excited. So there was a science experiment many years ago called - A scientific experiment? Yeah, called Laugh Club. And so this Indian doctor, all he did was bring in people together at a park and just laugh together. And laughing is infectious, right? So if someone's laughing, other people are laughing. And he just asked people to pretend to laugh, like ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. But what's magical is once you start to pretend to laugh and other people are pretending to laugh as well, people start to laugh naturally.

1:41:37And what he discovered is people who participated in Laugh Club every morning, the kids would go to school and pay more attention in class. The adults would go to work and have less stress. And the elderly would be much more resilient against disease. They recover from disease faster. Yes. It's called Laugh Club. The Laughing Club of India usually refers to Meera Nars. Short documentary about Mumbai's early laughter club movement, not a single exclusive organization. The film follows groups who meet often in parks to do stretching, clapping, breathing exercises, and deliberate group laughter as a social and stress relief practice.

1:42:18The movement was begun in Mumbai in 1995 by physician Dr. Madan Kataria. Its earliest meetings used jokes, but participants quickly shifted to laughter exercises when the jokes ran out. this is a movement you should start in the United States we need some things we need to feel inspired and I don't even mean you I don't even mean you whoever's listening I mean me I mean yeah there's just I don't know I'm glad we're talking about it today I do feel like there is an awakening in some ways and I do feel like yeah we have been stuck in this matrix

1:42:53I've heard you talk before you leave and thank you so much for your time today no it was great fantastic really cool man thank you you know I came with a purpose which is tell the joke about my wife and like the gay joke and i've done that so i'm i'm good okay good yeah uh i've heard a lot of what we consume nowadays is very um there's huge filters on it it's like the information that we get what's allowed to come through um you know i think we saw that after like the a lot of information came out about gaza it's like now i don't see many videos about it anymore yeah i think a lot of the just you know um there's a lot of strongholds on who who is letting information through to us.

1:43:32That's right. I've heard you talk about a propaganda test before. What's a propaganda test that you use to know if something is propaganda or not? Yeah, so I think what's really important is for people to make predictions. Because whenever we say something, we're making certain assumptions about the world. And so the way for us to know if the way we understand the world is correct or not is by extending the logic and making predictions about how the world should turn out. And if it doesn't turn out the way that we predicted, then we should just reflect on how we think and make changes to ourselves.

1:44:18And I think the greatest problem in the world that we have today is gatekeeping. There's too much gatekeeping in media. There's too much gatekeeping in academics. So for example, I'm not really a professor. You're not? I'm not a professor. I'm a high school teacher. I don't have a PhD. So just for, yeah, just for honesty, okay? But that's just gatekeeping, like where, you know, if you're not a college professor, you don't have a PhD, you're not a specialist, you don't get to be called a professor. So there's just much gatekeeping going on. I think that one way to improve our society is if experts are forced to make predictions.

1:44:58Because now we know how good their knowledge set is, right? Right? And now it's democratic. Now it's not just like your Harvard PhD and therefore you know what you're doing. No, no, it's like you are - Show your work. Yeah, exactly. Show your work. Bro, I like that. Yeah, let's be democratic. Yeah, a basketball player, it's like you don't just believe he's good if he tells you. That's right. Or you believe he's good because he went to a lot of basketball camps. He's got to go do it. Look at COVID, right? I mean, during COVID, they were running out these vaccines. Oh, dude, Anthony Fauci's a f***ing it, dude.

1:45:32Look, look, look. And he was like, how dare you question the science? We know better than you. We have your best interest at heart. Just obey us. Trust the science, bro. Yeah. And that was it. And it was like, okay, fine. Show me the science because, you know? Yeah. Show me. I know. it's the matrix, man. Yeah. I'm glad we got to meet at least here in the matrix. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, everything happens for a purpose. Yeah. You know, and like, you know, I really respect what you do. You bring truth to the world for laughter. And that's really the most powerful way of communicating. Well, thank you, uh, professors young.

1:46:13Um, I appreciate it. Yeah. I just appreciate that. Like it's just interesting. I think one thing that is great about social media and technology. It's just the different people that you can bear witness to, you know, and different people that can get their voice out there. And I think it's great that you've developed a voice for yourself. What do your students think about it? What do they think about it in China? Are you more popular here than in China? I'm way more popular here than in China. People think I'm actually insane in China. Why? Is it because you're brave? You put yourself out there?

1:46:50Is that a thing that doesn't happen very much in China where people kind of put like? Yeah. So I think that a lot of things I say are dark. Oh, yeah. And so they would rather be ignorant. Oh, I see. Ignorance is bliss. Yeah. It is, man. I used to be so ignorant, dude, and I was fucking doing great. Yeah, absolutely. I was doing great, dude. Yeah. But you know, once you achieve full knowledge, you'll do even better. Oh, I'll never get there. But yeah, a little bit at a time, man. It's always about the journey. Yeah. It's always about the journey. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, connecting with the people that you love.

1:47:31That's what God put us here for. That's why we're here. That's right. Family. We're here to have experiences that mean something. Yes. Yeah. Professor Zhang, thank you so much for your time today. Travel safe. How do you say goodbye in Chinese? Zaijian. Zaijian. Yes. Okay. See you. See you.