E457 Ric Flair

8 Aug 2023 · 2 h 10 min

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Podcast Episode Notes: E457 Ric Flair

Podcast Details

  • Title: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von
  • Episode: E457
  • Guest: Ric Flair, 16-time World Champion professional wrestler and entrepreneur.
  • Description: An in-depth conversation with Ric Flair about his life, career, challenges, and experiences in wrestling.

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Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Background and Early Life
  2. Ric Flair shares stories from his childhood in Minnesota.
  3. Discusses early influences and the transition from a wild upbringing to becoming a wrestling superstar.
  1. The Wrestling Journey
  2. Transformation into “The Nature Boy” and rise to fame in wrestling.
  3. Experiences in major wrestling promotions: NWA, WCW, and WWE.
  1. Near-Death Experiences
  2. Flair recounts multiple near-death experiences, including surviving a plane crash and a lightning strike.
  3. Discusses a life-threatening health crisis in 2017 involving septic shock and recovery.
  1. Life on the Road
  2. Insight into the lifestyle of professional wrestlers: constant travel, performances, and the toll it takes on personal life.
  3. Flair reflects on the camaraderie among wrestlers and the unique culture within wrestling.
  1. Personal Struggles
  2. Addressed addiction issues, both personally and within his family.
  3. Conversations about the impact of his son’s struggles with addiction and the overall effect on their family dynamic.
  1. Camaraderie and Relationships
  2. Importance of friendships with fellow wrestlers like Hulk Hogan, Terry Funk, and others.
  3. Discusses the relationship dynamics within wrestling, including loyalty, rivalry, and camaraderie.
  1. Health and Aging
  2. Flair shares his approach to maintaining health and fitness as he ages.
  3. Conversation about the challenges of aging and the importance of a proactive approach to health.
  1. Life Lessons and Reflections
  2. Flair reflects on his legacy, the wrestling business, and what he hopes fans take away from his career.
  3. Talks about the meaning of success and happiness in life beyond wrestling fame.

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Key Takeaways

  • Resilience: Ric Flair’s life story showcases remarkable resilience through personal and professional challenges.
  • Impact of Addiction: The discussion highlights the prevalence of addiction in the wrestling industry and its ripple effects on families.
  • Camaraderie in Wrestling: Strong bonds form among wrestlers, which can lead to lifelong friendships.
  • Health Awareness: Flair’s experiences emphasize the importance of health awareness, especially after serious health scares.
  • Legacy: Flair’s legacy is not just in his wrestling achievements but also in his ability to connect with fans and share life lessons.

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Quotes

  • "The Nature Boy" reflects on his approach to life: “I’m harmless but wild.”
  • On overcoming challenges: “You have to do it.”

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Episode Links

  • [Ric Flair on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/ricflairnatureboy/)
  • [Grand Cathedral Cigars](https://www.instagram.com/grandcathedralcigars/)
  • [Theo Von's Tour Dates](https://theovon.com/tour)
  • [Theo Von's Merch](https://www.theovonstore.com)

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Conclusion The episode presents a rich tapestry of Ric Flair's life, from his rise in the wrestling world to his personal struggles, emphasizing the importance of resilience, friendship, and health awareness. Listeners gain insight not only into the wrestling industry but also into the complexities of life's challenges and triumphs.

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1:36And it's a cigar, really a universe for cigaring and doing that. It's stunning. It is undeniably the nicest cigar lounge that I've been in. Now, I've only been in probably 11 cigar lounges. so that's the only part of it that i want to be honest about but we are very thankful for them in uh tampa florida at 2201 north florida avenue today's guest is a 16 time world champion uh there's nobody like him i'll tell you that he's one of a kind he has had quite a life i mean the guy. He survived a plane crash, a lightning strike. He's been through it all. We're grateful for his time today. He's one of the greatest entertainers of our time.

2:34Today's guest is the nature boy, Rick Flair. Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories

2:51Shine on me And I will find a song I'll be singing Almost Yeah,

3:07that's right. I moved over to Nashville a few years ago. Is that where you live now? Yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah. That's a great place. Save that tax money, too. Yeah. No kidding. and you can you can conceal carry you can carry a weapon over there oh you can oh yeah i believe that will work we're really can't you carry a weapon now i mean yeah somebody even if it's not legal somebody's carrying a weapon well heck in half your career somebody always that's that was the funny thing about wrestling somebody always showed up with a weapon you know it's like jesus christ you have no idea you wouldn't believe some of the stories i could tell you about guns yeah man i'm trying to think when i saw my first gun did y 'all have guns in the house growing up yeah for my dad was an avid hunter he was yeah i grew up minnesota sweet pheasant duck stuff like that oh yeah yeah not big game but shotguns yeah and then i uh i collected guns for years i had a a guy that was a policeman in ashfield north carolina i will mention his name in the 70s that you know how these you know these the guns that they recover and rage and all that shit right and he would let me walk in the room pick out what i wanted to pay what pay paper well i would just pay ridiculously low amounts of money like um as an example they used to have the state troopers used to carry that nickel plated at 357 i mean yeah unbelievable they can't find those guns anymore yeah yeah the only gun i don't have i tried and i i should have got it but i didn't um yes i was gonna buy a replica of the lone survivor the ranger no the lone survivor the rifle oh i haven't even seen it i don't think oh yeah the one that that bradley cooper carry remember yeah oh yeah who played lone survivor walberg or cooper my walberg where was it where was the sniper oh i gotta check that out that rifle's beautiful yeah yeah they have right here in tampa i shot recently i shot um i was in nashville actually i was at kid rock's house have you ever met kid i know him real well yeah yeah and john they own all what all five of the bars now yeah yeah i'm trying to get the kid to carry the drink he won't carry it for you i haven't asked him yet oh yeah i know him real well yeah his place is too much huh oh man his place is unreal that he's got to like he built like a new it's almost like um the capital of the south in a way or something it's a replica of the white house yeah yeah yeah you roll up there you're like this is unreal in a big arena i i thought it was like a warehouse yeah he's got a good darn production studio in there all his collective cars and i mean two bars a church yeah 600 acres of prime land oh yeah he said he can get married and divorced right there legally on his property i said i think the bar probably helps you get divorced i said i think that'll lead to it yeah yeah he's not touring right now he said i'm gonna let the young kids or help inspire them and help them yeah rick thanks for for hanging out man thank you for having me man i spent so much of my childhood watching you man and thank you thank you you know it was uh some people watched WWF right yeah and that was fine that was easy yeah but I when I was a kid if you stayed up and if you watched NWA right that's who knew about like those that's when you could tell if people were rich or not yeah that's what I felt like like poor kids always knew about all the NWA guys yeah where are you from i'm from uh covington louisiana okay so just like a small town outside of new orleans mid-south yeah and man wrestling dude terry funk just uh bill erics oh just god there was so much awesome wrestling back then jyd oh dude what was he like in person good guy yeah yeah died way too early but that was the rock and roll express for their midnight express bill watts yeah you know we've lost a lot of them unfortunately the von ericks oh all gone except for kevin and that's that i mean yeah that whole family just tragedy three suicides i think in the family did you go to any of those funerals that what about the funerals over the years have they i went to three of them um well let me see the oldest son you know got electrocuted when his dad first started out there in buffalo new york yeah when he was a kid had a trailer he was not in a wrestle or anything but he just got electrocuted with a hot wire in a damn uh trailer park and then uh carrie david you know had some kind of obviously illegal substance it was a i can't remember what they're called but it was probably i hope it was cocaine no no it's a muscle relaxer oh he choked to death he couldn't regurgitate they call them um quaaludes somas somas dude oh yeah yeah i took he loaded up on somas and he got sick after eating korean barbecue and all that which we all do in japan and uh he died right there in his own room same thing happened to miss elizabeth really yeah she couldn't regurgitate because she was taking the somas and that i've never understood that but that that high from a soma is nothing that i want to entertain ever yeah a buddy of mine gave me two somas once and i and i was genie and he wanted me to drive us somewhere yeah so he was not a he's not the smartest guy and i drove us onto a street that didn't even exist right into a ditch i'm sure i've never tried one but man i've i've been i can name three or four guys that have died you know because they just can't regurgitate and they wake up in the middle of the night and that the solomus relax your muscles so bad you can't yeah yeah i mean it's 10 times impact about valium yeah man some of those medicines are just too powerful yeah did um did you go to some funerals over the year what was what was like a wild funeral what was one that really hit you man was there i mean obviously funerals are just heartbreaking well probably the hardest for me um um in the last five years but well first of all dusty roads was dusty and piper were really difficult for me and then Harley race that was really difficult but uh yeah dusty must have shot I mean it must have been heartbreaking the WWE they they the funeral for dusty was as was as well handled as I think I've seen they had it here in Tampa obviously and the there were probably 2 000 people trying to get in but the wwe had full security and um the boys spoke so elegantly of their dad um cody who's wrestling now but they both wrestle but the code was wwe was telling a story and he you know i didn't neither one broke down no bad i'll break down what i think about it but he said he asked his mom one time he said how come there's only just pictures of dad in the house and no other wrestlers and his mother replied why would you have a picture of any other wrestler when you're married to elvis well he was he a good husband what kind of guy was he great guy wow he was so lovable most innovative you know one of the most innovative right there type with tied with this and innovative with ideas and creativity and he was so fun to watch like there's wrestlers that are entertaining to watch because of their physical acumen there's wrestlers that are entertaining to watch because of the moves they do yeah dusty had that like i loved when he would go against the ropes and kind of put on this like like almost feminine wiles kind of thing you know He was just a...

11:14I wrestled him probably a thousand-hour Broadway. He could wrestle for an hour. Don't let his weight was deceiving. He was in good condition. It's hard to wrestle an hour. Oh, yeah, dude. I can't even make love for 11 minutes. Yeah. To be honest with you. So, yeah, you put me against another man. I can't do an hour, bro. You know, no matter what city we're in. I bet I keep you overnight in Tampa tonight, brother. I get some people that can help you out with that. I don't know, dude. I don't know, man. My friend Dick Murdoch told me I started one time. The girl said, hey, what about me? He said, hey, we both started at the same time.

12:00I can't help it if you can't keep up.

12:06That doesn't fly with the chicks these days. No, these days. Yeah, all these chicks want to, you know, everybody wants to get off, and it's just too much, man. I miss the old days when a woman was as happy as you showed off.

12:21I can't. Yeah, man. Well, I always had to take, you know, I was always so nervous. I've always been nervous, kind of nervous my whole life, and I've always had to get those gas station pills, those wiener pills, you know? And a lot of the series they came out with, they never even tested, I don't think, on humans or whatever. I think a lot of them were animal tested. Yeah. which I respect, but it's a little different, you know, going three blocks from here. The age of the nation is going like, right. I get four shots a week there, brother. I'll take you by after we do the interview. They get, they shoot you up.

12:52Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. It's amazing what you can do to yourself these days. If you got the money. They shoot you right in your wiener. Yeah. Right there. Takes 25 years off. Yeah. yeah because look i would get these i'd get the gas station pills and they make my legs sweat right so i could have sex but i could barely stay on the bed that was the problem i mean it would be like the lady would like she'd like did you get off i'd be like no but i think my thighs did i mean i would they make your legs sweat so bad some of them they made them in india yeah and uh i mean those shook my nervous system but um yeah i've always needed the pills man i think i used to i used a lot of steroids when i was young and i don't know if that had enough i don't know who knows who knows you know it could just be that i'm in my head a lot but um yeah i've always i took a few too when i have to admit in my youth oh yeah dude i took them And small testicles.

13:58Nobody explains the downside. Oh, man. You could spend four minutes looking for one of your nuts. Exactly. Wait, we got the medicine over here to make them grow back? Oh, damn. It's called ACG. How big do they get? I don't know. Everybody's got a different opinion. oh i remember mine got so small one i think when i was a senior in high school it's like trying to find the last two pieces of halloween candy in a in a pillowcase man it was it was uh it got pretty bad there yeah i remember we used to use test 200 i think was what we used or something doing an all-around test yeah god that shit was fun yeah my god i would fucking choke out my own stepmother yeah and i don't even have one you know i never i never experienced that and i don't never gave me i guess i didn't take enough of it but i didn't have that what they call road rage yeah right i mean i things upset me over the years but it wasn't as a result of being steroids you know yeah but i think you had enough you had enough energy in you yeah i've always been high energy yeah what a blessing huh yeah people have always assumed that i snorted cocaine and all that the only drug I've ever taken, but it was prescription, is Xanax.

15:22Really? No cocaine. I did smoke weed when I'm younger. I smoke it now, now that I'm involved in the world of cannabis. But I think that's one of the reasons I'm still here because that up and down of cocaine and then the guys would take the uppers in the morning. Well, not just our guys, but athletes, period. Yeah. It's a game when you're competing. Stay up and then go down. Stay up, especially, you know, when you're internationally, when you're traveling internationally, you know, like going to Japan twice a month or going to Australia twice a month like I was doing it in the 80s. It was crazy.

16:01Yeah. Yeah, and once you get used, this is the tough thing about using performance enhancers. I think once you get used to getting something to help you get up or to get down, it's hard not to want to use it again. Yeah. And then you need the opposite of it. Yeah. so that's where it gets really tricky well when i almost died in 17 i mean i literally you know you know the story i mean i know a lot of surgery almost died so which one are we talking about though 2017 okay my intestine rupture oh when you had the uh stomach when you had the intestine rupture right i was septic respiratory heart failure total kidney failure pneumonia septic being the worst part right they had it and i was in a coma for 13 days so um when all that and then of course i had a stoma the bag oh yeah had that for a year but at the end of the day when i finally realized and i had no memory for six months going backwards forward i could from the time i woke up of course i recognized everybody but i couldn't remember anything i didn't remember going to the hospital wow um so but when i finally started taking a toll of myself like i'm like fuck i am really a fucking i'm a nightmare cosmetic fucking nightmare i look like shit my and i um so what do you mean a cosmetic nightmare i mean i've got a scar from here to here I lost 41 pounds.

17:30I was stoma. I'll show you some pictures later on. It was bad. So that changed everything. Yeah, and my testosterone count, you know, something I always took pride in, right? And we all do. We get it done. Blood work is a necessity of life. My testosterone count was 12. That can kill you alone. But doctors don't want to play. The word testosterone is like, you know, doctors don't want to hurt. i mean you can there are ways to find out the levels that you should be at but i was down to 12 so i called the doctor he said that's way too old but i don't want to prescribe it 12 what this 12 12 sounds like yeah it's supposed to be 400 my age oh yeah 12 left dude yeah i keep it at a thousand now oh okay but i have to run by the gas station every week oh yeah dude fill her up You know what I'm saying, brother?

18:23Hey, I got$60 on pump number one. The 400 of my age don't work. I got the 1 ,000. I got to have a little bit of jack. Oh, yeah, brother. Isn't 1 ,000 too high for you? No. Perfect. Yeah, so you were out of coming. What was it like to be in a coma, man? I always wanted to be in a coma. I just dreamt. Wow. I just dreamt. And I dreamt my daughter got married. and i went back and old thought about stuff and wrestling it it's funny i got so high with mike one night mike tyson is that we're talking about mike tyson yeah yeah so high we were partners in the cannabis business got so high with mike one night in the hamptons that i went it's called a um a cannabis coma right i mean i actually thought i died i said i said to myself and they they brought me back to my room and i laid there and i thought i mean i wasn't aware of anything i kept asking people to touch you know like you do when you think you've been hurt and people were squeezing my hand but i'd be talking to them and they wouldn't talk back to me and i was like you know on the delay process right yeah and i said to myself i did i die if I just died because I feel like I did when I was in my coma but I can think I don't think I could think when I was in my coma I mean that's the way I was talking to myself and all of a sudden I mean everything possible at 3 o 'clock in the morning I kind of sat up like I'm alive I'm back I called someone on the phone and said is this really you?

20:10that's all screwed up i got that was just a television that was a television time oh my god that's all that was oh i said i take my clothes off at the dining room table or anything but let me know what i've done wrong all i could think of what i possibly could have done wrong yeah oh yeah man i remember i remember just being too i just yeah there's something about that level of weed now it gets you too high oh well i just haven't done enough and i but i practice up every time i knew i'm gonna see mike yeah you gotta work your way up to it yeah i'm about a three or four hit guy but i just said i'm gonna smoke as much as you right now brother dude that weed comes off the top road oh man that's just a highlight yeah that should make you highlight dude i remember getting so high one night i was trying to sneak up on a mirror for like probably two hours that's good and i'll tell you this dude i got pretty fucking close man you could sneak it up on the mirror oh i think if it had been a leap year i could have done i should have brought some rickford drip for you man oh i'll get some okay i'll get some i'm glad i got this man you brought me this okay i mean this alone is pretty epic yeah you know it's great you are an energy you are you are like an original human energy drink so i am yeah so to have one yeah makes perfect sense have you been in an accident have you been damaged up check your body there's something broken there's something missing that's the you're like whoa jeepers no wonder i'm late to work i don't have a limb well morgan and morgan is america's largest injury law firm.

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24:23That's right. That's betterhelp.com slash Theo. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. You know, one thing, Rick, that I noticed that you always did really exceptionally, which kept me super entertained was your ability to play defense actively right like even if you were being the victim in the fight yeah you were always like asking for mercy there was always if you got hit you always went over your own legs yeah it was like it was as much fun to watch you like being defeated as it was to watch you winning and for some reason sometimes it was almost i'm better at getting beat you were good at it you were really good at it weren't you and then i just lie the next day on tv and then people forget about it that didn't happen to me when you were begging for mercy nobody did it like yeah it was it was just there was especially with the hair red blood flying everywhere but there was something about it that because a lot of guys they would just be getting beat in that moment yeah but you were always actively demanding the attention sometimes i wouldn't even know who was hitting you because i was watching you and that's really interesting a lot of times you're watching the b-turn not the bt you know yeah i could take an ass kicking i was really good at that how did that energy start you think i just have i've had it my whole life brother i was add before add was possible oh yeah i'm still looking out the I went on fourth grade.

25:57Richard, can we have your attention, please? Social studies 101. I spent 13 years in high school, let me tell you. I still haven't passed English or Latin. There's only four years of it. I was there five. I mean. You had A, B, B, E, F, G, did it? I didn't go to 12th grade. I went to 13th grade. And then barely got out. Did you go to prom? Do you remember going? Did you go to high school prom? Oh, yeah. Yeah, who was it? yeah uh well here's the funny thing i this is a great story i've never told you before so i hitchhiked my parents were minneapolis very conservative i was in private school in wisconsin i got in trouble it was either private school nothing bad yeah the hadley center where'd you go what was it called i went to wayland academy in beaver dam prep school very expensive with either that or a reform school because i got in some trouble um trying to buy liquor underage nothing serious but it was enough to get me in trouble and then riding my scooter around lake calhoun so i got there so i made all these friends and you know there's no cell phones back in the 60s and all that so now i have a whole new group of friends and they're all from wealthy families that and they they go to everybody's going to spring break i said what's spring break because we're all going to florida so i went home and i said to my mom and dad i second i go visit my friend bruce in chicago and they said yeah they gave me 200 bucks and took me to the train station and they drove off and i walked out of train station and hitchhiked all the way to fort lauderdale wow it was the greatest i did it two years in a row so would you go right out to the interstate and put your thumb out brother i'm telling you i mean i'm walking through macon county line man and that was some strange for a guy from minneapolis walking through Macon, Georgia, brother.

27:46What the hell? This looked different than Minneapolis. So anyway, then I got picked up by these college girls. I went right in. So my first night there, I'm in Arby's, right? And with my friend and this chick is working at Arby's. And she goes, where would you? Oh, God, a Wisconsin letter jacket on and no shirt. You know, like, trying to be cool. And she goes, where'd you go to school? I said, University of Wisconsin. She said, cool. She said, do you want to go have drinks afterwards? I said, what time do you get off? She said, 10 o 'clock. And so I ended up staying with her and her mom. Wow. On top of which one?

28:24Both. But I invited the one to, what was there, 10 days? Hey, look, dude. In 10 days, you got to meet the whole family. Exactly. But I ended up inviting her to prom, but not even thinking. And so I get a letter from her at school. and she said, my mom is flying me to Madison. Are you going to pick me up and take me to prom? And I had a girlfriend in high school. Boy, that was bad. So I did have to explain, and I made a mistake. Gwen Worthen was her name. Gwen, where are you now? Gwen Worthen. Forgive me. And so she didn't fly in then? She did fly in, yeah. She did, and you told your girlfriend you couldn't take her.

29:15Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So was it strange? Because I similarly brought a girl to - Well, I didn't really have that kind of relationship in high school. Right. They gave us what they called Saturday night. This is great shit. They gave us what's called SOH, right? What is it called? SOH. SOH. Ten minutes to go right behind a tree. Who did? The parents? No, the school did. Oh, really? So they'd have dances and all that at 10 o 'clock. You got 10 minutes to go out behind a tree. Yeah. It was a co-ed school, back to the dormitories. The dormitories weren't co-ed. Right. But we all had binoculars and shit, you know, and tell us, go fucking at the chicks.

29:56You had a lot of intel. We had a right time. We had the intel.

30:03And Polaroids were available back then. Yeah, brother. So they gave you 10 minutes after the prom and after the dance. after after every saturday night they called it soish okay you guys get up 10 minutes i've been a tree what are you gonna get in 10 minutes right i mean come on yeah but you could try i know i did and just as i got that first hook i called here with the whistle whoa whoa it's like a military drill everybody runs you have 10 seconds to return it over or we'll turn the goddamn dogs loose. Honey, you can just unhook the other side. Just let me just be one. Oh, it's so hard to touch a tit with a St.

30:48Bernard button. Oh, my God. Just tune in Tokyo, bro. Just try it. Yeah, you're trying to get that bra on? Next time you just not wear a bra. I just wear a big sweater. Nobody will know. God, that was fun. So you were unsuccessful with staying committed in a relationship from the beginning. Oh, yeah, I've had problems with relationships. I've been married four times. Wow. But a lot of that is in respect to my travel. You being a fan, you probably don't realize. I wrestled an average of 400 days a year, 400 times. Yeah. Because twice on Saturday, twice on Sunday for 10 years. My accountant would say, how can you wrestle 400?

31:31Rick, I know you graduated, but it's only 365 days. Right. i said i know but i wrestled twice on saturday twice on sunday man i did that for 10 years you cannot i'm never home how do you how do you stay married some women just can't live like that and i don't blame them yeah of course not yeah my first wife just said i this is cool and i have two kids by her we get along this day we never had an argument she just said this is not what i signed up for yeah i said i'll buy you a bigger house she said i don't care i've been spending my life alone because once you get on the road and if you're successful as you know yeah once he gets busy it's fun yeah yeah you know and why go home if you have a day off and you're like in los angeles you have one day off are you gonna go all the way back to toronto california or you're gonna stay in la you're gonna stay in la and start a new family i mean yeah i mean you find your old family how many guys do you feel like had kind of illegitimate children out there and oh i don't know you think it started to happen i think i'm i'm sure it has happened but i mean that happens and that happens with any traveling people that travel yeah it's gonna happen because i've never experienced that myself but you know some of these girls not in the old days they wanted to get pregnant oh yeah if you had money they wanted to get pregnant and guess what hello you know that's why all this stuff is so sophisticated now with dna and all that oh not that that stuff didn't wasn't around back when i was your age and that but yeah you had to hold the baby up next to the man yeah it's crazy but no i never experienced that i don't know but i think you know falling back it that can't all fall back on wrestlers because right there's two partners yeah well that yeah yeah well that's on this app but i mean the football players that travel the basketball players that travel baseball players are never home i mean yeah pilots and flight attendants come on oh they're just yeah i mean they just have in the old days that was that they were the most fun the flight attendants were the most fun we have matches we have tickets to the matches yes what do i tell you saying that oh okay i'm not supposed to tell you but

33:49yeah flight attendant bro and flight attendants used to be hot yeah oh yeah were they ever they still are some of them but oh it's just an attitude thing now but some of now they're hot but then they're they're like men well it's just or you know they're just kind of like you think it's a woman and then they turn them and they say you know and they're like i'm a man you know and like oh dang i haven't i haven't experienced that but i've experienced it where they just don't want to do any more than they have to yeah in the old days i think that they were they were they would go above and beyond for the company beyond because that but but but normal yeah that makes sense yeah things have changed a lot with that and you know you just you can't you can't you have to be very careful what you say to a woman now oh yeah i mean oh yeah you couldn't exist nowadays no me no i'm kidding god he used to walk around all the flat attendants doing the sweet and low joke you know i'll show it to you later on you know what sugar difference between sugar and sweet and low show her later on

34:57no you couldn't you could never do that with a plate then and now good lord but did women get offended back then by it or they kind of liked flirting or what was it like are you kidding Yeah. I mean, but, you know, now it's like any kind of travel today. I mean, I dread, that's why I fly private a lot, if I can, if it's within, if it's practical. Yeah, understood. Because people in general, they put computers on, put earplugs on, you got no one to talk to. People don't drink on, in the old days, people would drink on the planes. Oh, yeah. talk to each other and walk around and now everything is such a stringent i mean everything is a rule yes you know remember the old we sit in the old cabins on the higher end the 747s tell stories laugh and the big trays of food i mean that all that stuff on on our domestic airlines is gone yeah now the foreign airlines still let that stuff go on oh yeah we've shut done everything singapore airlines you would never get off the plane yeah you want to steal you know you're never you can get a massage oh they'll polish your feet yeah everything they had somebody come on and polish my feet on there did they yeah i never i didn't even know they needed anything you want they'll do it all dude yeah they'll fucking cut your i mean they'll cut the hair on the back of your legs yeah i mean but on ongoing uh dom perry on i mean it just they never stopped serving you yeah it's great but domestically we've just gotten so conservative and it's just different everything is a rule that's a great statement everything's a rule now it's like don't attack the pilots don't smoke in the bathroom well i understand that but i mean it's just you know i understand the pilot thing but it's like you know if you're i'll give you an example so i fly i've got like i've got four million miles with uh delta and i had you add up all my miles over the years that you have 70 million i'm sure no i probably had 15 million miles between northwest which went bankrupt eastern went bankrupt us air well i mean they've all you know gone upside down american united well they're still going and delta of course is my favorite choice i like delta too yeah but um we're used to be able to socialize and all that now you know when the cap like when the thing goes on and they go here's what makes me mad and i'm sure you felt it you know when the captain goes okay ladies you know we're getting ready to approach that means you're right at 10 000 feet i know this for a fact you're still 45 to 50 minutes from touching down to planes assembly ma 'am grab a cup of coffee no we have uh we've closed the golly yeah ma 'am the flight we're not gonna land for 50 minutes oh that's i'm sorry i like what amendment i said um can i have a built beer she said no we close it up i said is that your rule or the complaint rules i said are you i mean i've had women like are you harassing me i said no i was asking you for a beer excuse me you know or they'll go oh yeah please mr floyd what would you like yeah can i have a picture can we do a sign something for my son it's a or b yeah and someone I would say it's like 80, 60, 40, good.

38:21But the 40 can just, you know. And then like I had that surgery, right? That bag broke a couple times on airplane. And it smells bad, right? I had to stay three hours in the bathroom. Woman's knocking, what are you doing? You really don't want me to know, but don't knock in the door again. I mean, you can't. Yeah, it's horrible. Wow. Because it's a buyer. your intestine it's so it's attached to your intestine so it's dookie yeah yeah it's terrible it's it's terrible damn yeah i would never wish on anybody ever yeah i mean i've stepped in before and that's that's if i was bringing my own outside of me oh my wife bummed out my wife actually had to learn how to clean it why we hired full-time help right yeah it got me where like on the weekend and they'd send out like a weekend warrior it's like like being in a rest home though regular staff is gone and the people working on the weekends i don't want to be there anyway their second strength third straight yeah you're talking so then she finally went to a stoma class and learned how to do it herself but it's nasty man yeah and and you have to re-watch what you eat because different things trigger it does that make sense was it kind of cool to eat some things and see them come out in the bag i know what the bag wasn't clear oh it wasn't they didn't make clear bags damn you got to get that clear one up i was like that'd be crazy i'm laughing right now wasn't funny then oh yeah no it's crazy my sister was born with a rare liver disease and uh so she needed a transplant her whole life when we were kids and so she had to have a bag a lot and so there was always um we were always dealing with bile or some type of thing around the house you know it's terrible i i feel that i'm i feel bad i'm making light of it but no we're joking i was just saying some of the the things that you go through with that condition it's and it takes really patient people does that make sense oh yeah that really care for you that to be around you well nurses that's one thing i would love to marry a nurse i think one day because the ability to have that job is really a God-gift, I think.

40:38Let me tell you, right after this, I had to have four heart surgeries in seven weeks. Damn. Okay, but by the time, by the second two, they were walking me in into the same room with the same nurses to and the girl brought a what do you call those things a player she was playing my space oh yeah my entrance yeah and she goes she goes to me i swear to god you couldn't make it up right so they're putting me down and cover me up and she put a washcloth on top of my groin. And she said, I won't let anybody see Space Mountain looking like this. The next year I know I'm asleep. That's awesome, man. The cold cloth coverment.

41:41Who says that to a patient? She said, we don't want to see Space Mountain looking like this. No, we won't let anybody see Space Mountain. i hope she meant the other nurses

41:54these days man you don't know who's trying to look yeah oh my god wow or take a picture oh yeah rick flair he ain't all that shit look at this little diggly who's he kidding yeah you don't want yeah that would be the worst man Oh, no shit. Yeah, I was getting my second best activity. The first one didn't work. I told the girls who were waiting for me, and I said, you guys signed a release? And they go, what release? And I said, release is such. You're not going to tell anybody how small my dick is. They all started laughing. I go, she goes, we don't do that here. I said, ma 'am, I'm just kidding.

42:43i'm getting ready going have you guys cut my nuts again trying to find some fucking humor in the moment yeah like jee first lady you want to saw into my nuts yeah let us have a chuckle did you sign we don't sign releases yes i'm just kidding please how small my dick is dude that's great i said penis i didn't say oh yeah good penis yeah some people might as well yeah girls girls do that word more than guys do now it's different man oh girls will send messages girls will be like come and fuck me you creep yeah i'm like jesus well all right i haven't got one of those lately

43:26okay my number what uh what state had the best women do you think florida here or uh because florida has a lot of criminals built into it there's something about that pirate because remember pirates started this place there's spanish people can dance they can hide treasure yeah it's it's a great place to live but you know in difference between miami and tampa is like night and day yeah um tampa just this is great but texas beautiful women there oh yeah there's beautiful women everywhere but you it just seems like there's an abundance of them tampa plus you have all the colleges here you've got tampa university then you have south florida hooters ucf where she went i mean and then you've got florida florida state i mean there's a bar over here called amso that during the football season when the alumni and it's insanity what's it called it's american social okay amsa yeah and they that's over here on the water you know with yachts outside and everything and it i would say it's probably

44:38probably 14 or 15 000 square feet it's big yeah and they can house it but man for these they have like 30 tvs for these college games and that river in town it's a vibe it's a vibe and a half and there are women everywhere god god i wish i was 35 just one day what would you do you think i thought about that a lot i don't know man but just give me an idea 35 on a saturday in an american social a lot could do a lot of damage 30 even more that five years

45:20who did you guys after the matches did was there like group shower how did it all was there like a big group shower oh with a big group shower like for that like did you guys was it like a football team that after the man after the night everybody was it like a big no the guys shower i mean they get their match and they're gone yeah yeah and when you guys used to drive i mean one thing that's always fascinating about wrestlers i'm friends with the miz right he's a wrestler oh yeah and he's a great kid he is a great guy how do you know he's a great guy we've known each other for almost 15 years now he's a great kid yeah he's a guy that really cares for the business man and they on him when he started they gave him a tough time they gave him a tough time that the and that you know that that's the guy's that bully i got no time for that but yeah he's a wonderful kid yeah and he's made the most of it and i i'm going to tell you the truth he he dealt whatever they hand him he makes work he did it yep that's a good point it's a gift whatever they hand him he goes he doesn't complain if he does i'm not aware of it and so damn respectful he's a great kid yeah yeah i met him years ago with his dad he was always a hard worker yeah and just extremely cares that he always had that energy that was uh he always had this charisma that was a little bit beyond him as a person he's a cleveland guy yeah so is dolph ziggler oh is dolph yeah yeah dolph's a comedian too you know right yeah i know that he's i I know that he's done some comedy.

46:45He and I communicate sometimes on social media. Yeah, yeah. He's a great kid. The Miz and I have been friends for a long time, and I've always admired his ability to roll with the punches. Yeah. What was it like whenever you – did your storyline ever get like where you were like – I know you had like those Bischoff years where you didn't love it. Hated it. Yeah. Worse. It must have been hard, huh? Well, I was – you know out of sight out of mind it didn't work he kept trying to lose me like what do you mean out of sight out of mind i mean he thought if he could take me off tv and bury me that that he forgot he forgot where i'd been for 20 years 25 years before i met him yeah yeah you don't lose 25 years of being the man and then all of a sudden have some give try and put you in the back of the pack yeah yeah i don't even think you couldn't either you know he beat my brains out though that that was a big self-confidence a big time a big time loss of self-confidence period in my life yeah yeah i guess you don't have as much control over how not relevant you stay but how much vis you how much attention they give you i mean it's kind of interesting the way you guys's business is set up right it's like you're the performer you're the athlete you're the competitor but then there's also this business side that kind of gets to politics right ask us was it like that early on did it change it wasn't like that early on no i got it when i got in the business you were either good or you were bad and if you were bad and they don't like you they beat you up really right beat you up right in the ring if they could yeah yeah now now it's all political it's off jesus it's a business more yeah it used to be when i when when when you enjoyed it the most when i enjoyed it the most is when you were there because you were that much better than the next guy or the woman with it now it's you can be better than anybody but it's all um it's it's it's sad but it's you either accept it or you don't be part of it and I'm I'd rather be part of it and accept it and I don't talk about it and I'm not talking about any individuals I'm just addressing the reality of our business now I mean it yeah it's it's very political yeah we're football and all that it's political but you're not going to put Aaron Rodgers down you're not going to put down xyz guy guy well just whatever you use there in his example yeah because he says something smart yeah you're going to play to win right and if somebody says something smart it's almost with you guys it's it almost would behoove them to use that as the well yeah but they have these writers that come in that have never wrestled writers are unreal i mean they They come and they go.

49:52They turn over. And how do you ever get to learn the business? If it took me 12 years, let's say I started in 72, I didn't figure this shit out really until 83. So how long is that? 10 years, 9 years? Yeah. Yeah. It took me 9 years to figure it out. And every time I thought I had it, something else popped up. Yeah. But then once I got it, I didn't let it go. But then people want to take it from me. oh he's too old about it he's not ready doesn't look the same but uh 80s heels don't drive hurt at all yeah and here i'm sitting here with you sitting here with you today where are they yeah i don't know they're driving between towns yeah some of them buses some of them running cars what was it like when you guys would hit the road was that a lot of fun did you guys enjoy 3 000 miles a week man minimum yeah it was fun and it was mostly the southeast you guys were in i'm not well i was in charlotte i'm probably the only wrestler alive uh even hulk had to move out of florida he moved to stanford for a while he'll tell you that but hulk and i are probably only two guys that during that during the course of our career in our heyday that uh never left home i never left charlotte they wanted me to go to atlanta they wanted me to go to florida i mean and I wish I had come down here only because of the state tax issue.

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51:19Tax savings, yeah. But once I found it, when I was there, when I got to Charlotte, it was me and Richard Petty. The highest building was 10 stories, Brown Bay. I mean, I've seen that town grow. And why would I leave that to come anywhere, right? Yeah, especially if it's your home. If it's a city, you feel like that's your home. Well, I moved there when I was 23, and I grew with the city. Yeah. Did all your wives, you met them all in Charlotte? yeah wow no my first wife i met minneapolis she's from minneapolis oh yeah she lives in charlotte now because about my grandchildren yeah never had a cross word just great story so we used to stay at the raleigh hilton and there was a bar called the hilton underground right so this guy walked up to me and says god damn i was talking about 10 girls it was packed because i used to always say on tv was i used to go whatever hotel we were going to be in i would say 18 to 28 no boyfriends no husbands yeah come and see the nature boy i just would tell him where we were what'd your wife think of that well same thing you thought about me not wearing my wedding rings why are you wearing a guy that's not my gimme honey please why why are you telling me where we were staying.

52:39I said, they give us a deal in the hotel room. What do you think? I mean, do you actually think anybody shows up? Boring. Of course, the place is packed. Meanwhile, yeah. This guy goes to me, can the guy get laid here? Can the guy get laid, but you can get, I'll get you laid on here in the staircase. Let me buy you a drink. He was my wife's private eye. I introduced him to all the guys. hey this guy the cool guy i don't know if i got him laid or not

53:19and listen i went so good i used to get the midget wrestling laid that's hard really cowboy lang give me ladies give me ladies give me ladies i say you little sumbitch it's hard to get too late i don't need a few women yeah what kind of women would you usually go for That little fella, huh? I can call one right now. I can call one. She runs the Speedway Club in Charlotte now. Oh, Lord. Give me lead. The officer called me and said, the midgets are in town. I said, who are laying? They're laying in old Tokyo. They want to ride with you. I was like, be my El Dorado. So we're on the road. Give me lead.

54:01Give me lead. Give me lead. Give me lead. Give me lead.

54:07man you're so do you like hooking your buddies up yeah yeah it was hard getting that tokyo was impossible to get laid but really yeah so in tokyo it was hard to get him it was hard to get a little person laid yeah but i hang uh cowboy lang had a pretty good hang on him so i could sell that to that one oh my god boy i'd hate i mean it'd be so hard i mean that would be just to just to you know that's like a damn kettlebell something like that i mean if you even have half a pound of a wiener on a on a little person that's fucking yeah it looks a lot bigger than a little guy

54:50and especially if you put the right makeup on the sides of it dude because i'll put makeup on mine i'll make it look you know you want the light to hit it the right way it's everything

55:07when was the first time you got laid do you remember it uh 15. wow yeah it was um 14 i mean 14 or 15. i was i had just got my wsi and i was a what is a wsi water safety instructor probably for a lifeguard at a uh i've got i got my lifeguard and thing i must turn yeah i think i just turned 15 so um i got my wsi so i could be a lifeguard at the my parents lived in the colony apartments while they're waiting for a new home to be built for two years so i just summertime job i lean in the pool lifeguard go swimming instructions and talk to the mothers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, boy. The lonely mothers with their husbands on the road.

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1:00:55but then the worst part is i never say i can't i never in that first you never tell a woman the truth no jesus then you start telling the truth then you gotta be honest with yourself and that's hard to do with women oh shit they can put the hottest light on me and ask me a thousand times and and i and i am guilty of doing it but they still won't admit it wow i told the judge five I was like, judge, I did not do that. We have you on film. That's not me. It looked just like you. That's not me. The judge said, I'm going to hold you in contempt. I said, well, I'm not going to admit it's me. What do you call it?

1:01:34Plead the fifth?

1:01:39I'm going to remember that. When you start telling them the truth, boy, you're in trouble. Holy cow. Women like that game. They want to be as clever as we are, but they're not. So women like the game, huh? You got to remember that. Oh, sure they do. Are you kidding? That's a lot of the math. I'm going to tell you something right now. Women love cowboys. Ladies love outlaws, like little babies love stray dogs. You know that? Yeah. Yeah. For every good woman, there's two outlaws. For every outlaw, there's 20 women. Yeah.

1:02:28even if it's your blanks they make the noise

1:02:38oh man dude yeah that's crazy god yeah dude there's been some times on the road it's like yeah there's sometimes like there i think there could be a woman that could come up to me right now and be like do you remember this and i'm like i have no idea about that yeah first of all they they don't look the same i just i have no idea what you're talking about it was me in 1982 i said who you know why i mean hello someone moved her out of line she's blocking traffic here she's claiming she knows it's impossible what we i think i've got it old have you had some ladies that came back that oh hell yeah my god that happens at least once a month different cities around the country remember me no and how are they how old are they oh well i'm 74 some of them are oh my god and i'm probably It's like my friend and I just said, Beak, and he says, Everybody your age is dead.

1:03:45And some of these chicks might as well be dead. There's no way that you and I, Nah, why not? The Mariana West show is not a chance. Mistaken identity. You got the wrong guy. My name is Fred Phillips, not Ric Flair. Did you watch my biography? Yeah, yeah.

1:04:07man jim dandy

1:04:11was it you worked i know you worked on the road who do you who was fun to travel with on the road like when you guys were just in the car cruising who was oh me aren't only and berry is the best yeah yeah jj yeah and that was during four horsemen days or the best wow man we how much fun must that have been you guys and we'd all ride in the same car yeah yeah what kind of car would you get um we're all driving cadillacs and i bought then all of a sudden the mercedes thing hit and i bought but i started buying mercedes i never changed i bought a road with voice one time but it just it wasn't even worth it yeah because the door was a big deal and you can't park it near anything because you're afraid it's going to get dinged up yeah that's what i never liked i rode with a friend one time who was rich and and i'm like dude we got to park seven miles away because you don't want to get the doors ding yeah um yeah you guys would hit the road huh oh yeah later on we traveled via private jet our company bought a falcon 10 which was great but in our younger days we traveled uh oh yeah but we we we like to travel during the day you're never gonna why go why drive it when i was young we drove at night but as we started to realize that we were at a level of popularity why not spend the night going out and enjoy the local you know whatever food flavor establishment ladies flavor yeah yeah and then travel the next day but then when we got the jet that's one shit we we parked a jet in like Vegas work Seattle back to Vegas all all night yeah Portland back to Vegas all night LA back to Vegas out all night san diego back to vegas all night it's called the great american passion on tour albuquerque back to vegas right yeah vegas and that vegas back to that and then frisco in la and then we hit canada city anyway home man i mean i was running a weeder product you know a lot of guys were loading up which which is not uncommon i just doing coke yeah the only reason i didn't my dad was a doctor and he just said don't do it on day one man he said you're you're gonna this guy can see this happening in your business i don't know anything about it but you know it happens not not just to you guys but because of your wear and tear and travel oh it's almost a necessity yeah but i avoided that but oh man i'll tell you i've i've had 17 nervous breakdowns no shit i was just so exhausted and one night i i had wrestled for an hour in Orlando or in the old Eddie Graham Sports Arena, which is a tin building, 104 degrees, and I wrestled Butch Reed.

1:06:54My heart was racing like hell, so I called my dad on a pay phone, and he was in Minneapolis. I said, Dad, my heart's racing. He said, what was the last time you went to bed? I said, I don't know. I thought to myself, I didn't want to answer. I said, well, I went to bed last night. I said, what time? He said, I never went to bed, right? and then so i had to go to i had to go to um tokyo the next day and i got in a plane going god i can't do this so i drank all the way to an arena drank 14 hours i maybe slept two hours but i woke up kept drinking right this isn't like 83 or 84. land in an arena back then we had the paper ticket and i said i just can't do this and i could hear bob his wife flair's son you know that i'll eat i walked over to the guy i said when's the next flight back in the united states i went i need to get to charlotte he said we got one for seattle leave in 20 minutes i said that went back they didn't have that deal with the bags took the paper ticket we'll be back I flew from Narita to Seattle, Seattle to Chicago, Chicago to Charlotte.

1:08:06And to make a long story short, I sat down next to this guy. I sat down where? Sat down next to this guy on the plane, going back to Narita to Seattle. And I go, do you mind if I talk to you? He said, no, why? I said, I'm having a nervous breakdown. I need someone to talk to him. And he said, really? i said yep i'm having another straight count and um so i talked all the way to sale drank all the way to seattle and then i slept to chicago and i walked and got in the plane i landed in charlotte and the firm order was there jimmy crockett he said you got to go back you're advertised and we got back on the plane never even left the airport went all the way back to tokyo drinking again.

1:08:56I mean, I was having a full-fledged North breakdown. He got there and went to the arena, wrestled an hour, and I broke the sweat and just started over again. But the guy from Seattle, we changed addresses, right? He sent me a Christmas card for 10 years. He said, I didn't know how famous you were. Really enjoyed talking to you. Man, you're an interesting guy. isn't that crazy yeah i didn't know famous or when i made really enjoy talking i hope you're feeling better

1:09:33oh full-fledged breakdown man god what did it feel like when you're having a nervous breakdown like what like what do you kind of go through i had one a few years ago oh you just you lose control i mean you just like you you're looking for someone to talk to it's strange it's hard to walk up to someone and say hey i think i'm having a nervous breakdown most people want to run away and go, call the cops. He's a wacko. Yeah, call God. No, I waited until the plane took off before it sent it to him. I don't want him calling 911. You're like, hey, remind me when we take off. I got something to tell you.

1:10:07And nowadays, can you imagine walking up to a plane? Will you talk to me? I'm going to break down a whole gate. They'll call you racist and tase you. Can we land the plane, please? They'll put you in the suit and take you off the plane. oh i've had about five of them no kidding yeah it's heavy huh you know agoraphobia is where you have to be close to something oh yeah yeah no tomo gore of phobia yeah you can't be alone you can't walk outside of your house oh you had that you think i know i had it wow yeah i had it for about six months i couldn't i couldn't get myself to leave and drive that airport i mean it's horrible what do you think brought it on and when you feel back in it like what it because i was just living a crazy lifestyle do you think you felt bad about anything or do you think you just it was just so much like drinking and party and oh just so much drinking and party i just i didn't sleep yeah and the one thing i did do which is kind of legendary in our business is regardless of what i did to myself i worked out every day and sometimes i just pushed myself too hard and that would cause that and then and having different promoters try to you know you know like when i cut my hair i really lost my mind when i cut my hair jim heard spartacus put a earring on i'm rick flair you know there's something you know when i cut my hair and i walked through the charlotte airport nobody knew who i was i wanted to absolutely walk in the bathroom and kill myself hey you see i mean normally walk down there hey rick yeah combing my hair and all that now i got the surfer joe eric give me a break oh you know i mean native americans it was a big thing to them to have their hair they took each other's hair if they captured one another they would scalp one another i started a trend with it yeah and then they have some from order i mean i still can't believe i gave in to them yeah man it's funny because i've cut my hair before and it fucking hurt me oh i can't remember the girl name mary riley she's are you sure you want to do this i said no i don't want to do it but i almost have to keep my job but man i was i was in shock that that alone was it was a nervous breakdown how hard was it to be like i could imagine like i don't have any children yet i would like to have some one day you know and that's the greatest reward in the world was it really the greatest reward in the world yes were you surprised that it was so rewarding did you think did you my problem is is i it was the greatest thing in the world but i didn't have time to spend with my older ones yeah my younger ones i had more time to spend with but my younger ones i don't i they lived in minneapolis number one um and the nwa did not was not i was awa so the nwa didn't even go to minneapolis oh so i only got to see them during the summer and when they came for summer i'm traveling right so i just had them travel with me was some of that fun sometimes yeah when we came to florida for a week yeah or we went to portland for a week or i went to dallas for a week you know but it's a lot to do here with the kids you know bush gardens yeah i've been to disney world and and um universal at least 50 times each one yeah With both four sets of kids.

1:13:37With my four kids. Is it hard, like, because you're a hero to so, like, you're an icon to people. You're a hero. You're this, you know, this thing that's larger than life. Especially in the time when you were, like, when you were wrestling in your prime. And that was just the prime for, like, if somebody was a star then, there was no way to, the only, they were, if television and their job labeled them a star they were a star there was no and there were there weren't that many stars yeah right there were some but there weren't a ton yeah but was it like i wonder if if it would be hard as a child right if i'm looking at my father if i would always feel like man how do i love my dad as much as these other people love him does that make any sense Yeah.

1:14:29You know, I think my older kids actually, because they didn't understand what I was doing, I think they were very resentful for a while. But, you know, it's just, where is he? And that's all they want. All they want is your time, and the time is what you don't have. Yeah. In my line of work, because we travel. I mean, even the kids today are still traveling four days a week. oh what's fascinating a lot of people know about wrestlers is that they there's all the times they aren't on television they're still wrestling oh yeah different fights they're still wrestling different matches they're leaving they're leaving for a two-week tour of uh england and italy yeah leaving uh when next week yeah i just wonder if that built up like what it would be like to you didn't have a choice so you couldn't wrestle less really right um no no kidding i had a chance to make a movie with the ryan pictures they wanted me to do a james bond thing so i think what i hear was like that's best the guy was a big fan of mine he came to the forum we're wrestling out there but they offered me 250 grand wow and i went back and then crocky said yeah you have to drop the world championship and go for six months but i don't where you'll be when you get back and i couldn't they had me buffaloed i should have gone and made the movie you think i'm back and i would have got right sure i would have given but you don't you know it's company you don't know and you i think life forced you to make decisions based on what you know not what you think you yeah and be this i mean a lot of guys tried forever to make in hollywood and three have made it yeah batista made it john made it and of course duane but i can tell you i mean roddy piper spent his whole life but just outside of that they live there were just b movies yeah he never got that crack and it's not good to have a talent he just it's bad for it political too it's so political yeah and now it's a lot of people's you know there's also even nepotism in that business there wasn't there was nepotism in you guys's business kind of isn't there or like i guess there's a tradition of name in you guys's business you know because you have like dusty roads dustin roads you had the von erichs you had um there's a lot of people whose children will also the flares yeah your daughter is a wrestler yeah both your children but your sons wrestled huh well your youngest son wrestled your oldest son didn't wrestle my oldest son did wrestle but he did he gave up on it yeah yeah my youngest son's one that passed away yeah yeah he would have been great yeah but my daughter i have no problem saying this is the best wrestler period female or male in the business today yeah she's badass yeah was there ever a thought uh uh did you guys ever get pitched to do a match against each other no no no yeah what was it like when they had the ladies of wrestling back then because remember that horrible they put those dames in there sometimes you know and everybody looked like they were like angry jazzercizers yeah yeah no that didn't float it was it was a nice theory and concept but did y 'all travel with those ladies no no you never saw them i saw lady wrestlers in the old days but a totally different thing and they and they were badly managed and mistreated as the midges were I mean, the midgets got paid nothing.

1:18:03Really? It was terrible. Yeah. That's why anything I could do to help them transportation-wise and that, or buy them drinks and food or that. Or get them laid, get them a little. Yeah, yeah. That front wing. Give me a leg, give me a leg. Give me a leg, give me a leg. Give me a leg, give me a leg. Shut up, Lang. And would he wear a cowboy hat? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Google him. I got to pull up Cowboy Lang. Cowboy Lang. He's famous. and was he the tallest I think he's only 4 '10 right ooh that's tall enough to fuck huh there he is right there ooh gee would you like him look at Cowboy Lane yeah he's a little pretty small

1:18:49dang he got nice hair on him huh yeah the Cowboy Hall was he 4 '10 4 '11 4 foot yeah Yeah. You got to really. Oh, if you show up to fuck at four foot, you got to really mean it. Yeah. Especially with a five foot nine jerk. Oh, wow. How do you even. I mean, I don't even. God, I would have watched that match. It's like scale of the mountain. I would have watched that match, dude. Or at least like hanging up your. Putting the star on the Christmas tree. Yeah. I have a friend that was with a one leg admission in Dubois. And I have a one day. I said, how was that? because it was brutal. Yeah, they didn't have a lot.

1:19:34I'm not mentioning names. We had a little person in our town and people would always try and get him to tell him. People always thought he knew secrets and magic and shit. People would always do some fucking magic and say shit like that. Tell me about this. Say you're on a plane, right? The plane's full of cocaine, right? It's going down. you don't do cocaine but there's you gotta there's you there's one and it's all wrestlers who's the guy that's got to get in there and fucking the only way to save the plane is somebody's got to do all the cocaine who's the guy that could really fucking party i used to do a lot of cocaine oh that i used to call him john wesley hardin you know what john wesley hardin is supposedly the fastest gunslinger of all time i've never seen anybody in my life and and this is a compliment yeah to him as a person and a man i've never seen anybody that could run and i'll take keith richard all day long could run with roddy piper wow the hot rod brother he used to wear that shirt that said that he had the best shirt of all time how much rod can you take i said that's my gimmick i want that damn shirt out right how much rod can you take god oh boy I would want that yeah I'd love dude my god I would love I mean I would turn an eight ball into a two ball in four minutes you have no idea really do it huh the hot rod I wrote in my book he said I said can I I told this to the Dominican Republic wrestling Jack Bonanno we had a riot after the billions of matches.

1:21:18A riot? Oh, yeah, Jack Veneno, because over there, the wrestling, listen, I'm the first white guy to go to the islands, man. It was rough. No shit. What didn't they like? Well, we did a finish where he had to sleep. That was his finish hole, right? He's a little guy, right? And the referee went, one, dropped my arm, right? Two, right? And the bell rang, right? And they thought that he won. and the guy went to hand the belt to me. I'm laying there like bloody and all that. And they thought, what the fuck? And they hit the ring. Fought ourselves all the way back. Got back there. God, they took me to the office.

1:21:58They gave me five grand and gave Roddy Piper a spittoon full of cocaine. And they took us over to a whorehouse and dropped us off. And dropped you off? Roddy looked like Chevy Chase and Trading Place is a line around his mouth. Remember that Trading Place, that movie with Chevy Chase? I like it. His car face has got nothing on the hot rod. Wow, man. He ended up doing stand-up comedy at the end of his career. Yeah. He's just the most entertaining guy. To me, he's funnier than when I inducted him to the Hall of Fame. and said uh who's the guy that was married jenna mccarthy for a while oh uh jim carrey yeah jim carrey he's funnier jim carrey wow yeah he was incredibly funny witty yeah what was a gimmick a lot of gimmicks you know i mean one thing about wrestling is staying creative staying unique especially like um as entered as the wrestlers themselves but also as the producers the people putting it on what was some gimmicks or a gimmick that fucking flopped you were like this is fucking unreal oh god too many too many too many too numerous too many to pick on just one yeah it's here's the deal they would they have probably have 100 kids i'm not accurate on discount but between 80 and 100 kids in orlando right now at nxt right um if i'm looking at what i've seen in the last 10 years which my daughter's involved in that equation.

1:23:36In the last 10 years, my daughter, Sasha, Bailey, Becky, Roman, Seth, Dean, they're all main eventers and still are. Yeah. That's hard. And once you get on top, it's harder to stay on top. You don't realize, Miz has been around, Miz has been there 20 years. Yeah. Believe it or not. Randy Orton's been there 22 years He's just 40 years old You know what I mean? And Randy's still on top Randy started on top And ended on top Cena had 20 years on top It's hard But the percentage of people that come out of there I would say is 1 % It's that hard I went to a big recruiting thing this summer In LA at Wrestlemania And they had 100 kids I think And they took 10 and they and they recruit legit college athletes from all over the country yeah to attend flew them in put them through the drills you know physical drills um not the kind like we used to but still to see what they're made of but most division one athletes are you know i've got the fortitude in that and out of that 10 one might make it it's that hard it's that hard yeah was there as many people trying when you were coming up no it was what the young they did everything in the world to keep young guys away from it oh yeah wow so why why was that why because they didn't want the competition so who are young you guys like the best example of all time ricky steamboat it was you know not not only a great wrestler a great person but when steamboat came to charlotte way they hated him he handsome young great body because that was back then the bodies were just starting to become a big part of the of the business especially in vince's business and you know you weren't everybody wasn't lifting weights and nobody was as handsome and he was more about personalities in a way yeah i had i had to really fight for him to get him to even get him going because they said ah he'll never make it well look how big he got so yes i guess it was and he's a real nice kid too which is not the kind of guy that's gonna be a prick you know right it's easy to be a prick and then say that's your way out i mean the i don't want to do this i don't want to do this anyway fuck you guys like i can name 100 guys like that yeah i don't want to do this anyway or you held me back that's the greatest line how do you hold someone back if you're not the promoter how do you hold someone back yeah you call a promoter and say this guy's an asshole yeah well a good promoter's gonna go fuck you if a guy's got talent if he can draw money like vince look at all the shit with bischoff he's still found a way to use him right right and it worked but how do you leave the company in a garbage truck he always gets you there put him in a garbage truck and drove off his last day at the company really yeah wow yeah but he utilizes to make money yeah vince couldn't forgive anything if there's a dollar attached to it he's a businessman businessman be a business first wow hey hey tomorrow you're gonna be with hulk right so i asked hulk so bishop hulk kevin nash and scott hall would go out on tv and this is hulk and i used to think to myself what you know hulk knows this i used to go man this just ain't cool bishop would got so mad at me because i wouldn't do it and they'd be on tv and they'd say we're going to close you down vince we're sitting here telling you because they beat him for 83 weeks right oh beat him in the ratings yeah for 83 weeks right and then along came stone cold steve austin and then one day he went like this to vince and guess what 83 weeks are over wow and within two years the company was bankrupt yeah but he's forgiven hulk and he forgave kevin scott off mcmahon did sure yeah he brought them all back yeah and use all that to make money yeah i mean hulk hogan and he to me hulk hogan is the biggest star he and austin are the two biggest stars in the history of the business i'll tell you a great story i'm the nwa world champion i'm traveling around the world doing everything hulk is in wwf right i go home to minneapolis my dad goes how's it going right now how's it going want i said it's good he said all my friends are hulk hogan they don't know who you are oh dad i'm the fucking world champion of what of what

1:28:33hate you fucking hogan i'll say this your championship belt i don't know if we win it what hey tell hogan tell hogan i'm gonna tell the story about the hooter girls in jacksonville when i hit my watch and i couldn't find it one of made your watch no i hid it oh you did i've had four stolen oh yeah oh funny all girls wake up in the middle of the night just walk off my rolex it's time to go yeah or my main coat yeah some lady some chick told me she was a professor at rothwestern university i took her back to the hotel in chicago and my friend came in at four o 'clock in the morning and she was going around a revolving door with my Rolex on and wearing my main coat.

1:29:24My friend grabbed her and said, I don't think so. He walked back to my room, kicked me into the bed. He said, the chick was stealing your shit. I thought she was a teacher to go to Northwestern. I guess not. They've all got a story. I woke up with two in Baltimore and that guy looked for all my shit right up to girl married right so i got like god i said okay motherfuckers where's my shit what are you talking about you threw your old you threw your horlicks in a bowl of spaghetti and told us you had 11 i said we're gonna throw my walls well we don't see that i'm previously in the ring and they get round two get the fuck out of here do you think people dreaded seeing were you always like too much of a party for the scene you think no no people love me people love yeah i could find something i do in loving texas on a sunday night brother that's a lot that's hard to do yeah somewhere somewhere there's a victim so i just need to start the conversation and what was the name who does

1:30:42who else could drink like that with you who could really oh god name it that's endless double a mike heggstrand piper a drinky guy there's a lot of guys could really drink yeah did you ever try to stop drinking well i guess after your sir after your after that well i didn't drink for a year you didn't drink for a year and at one time i was taking steroids and i took an overdose of one and my heart went like this and the guy said uh you've been drinking too much he thought i had cardiomyopathy so i quit i did an old doulas full year that's not hard for me to quit drinking it was hard they put me in rehab i had no problem quit drinking what did you how long were you in rehab for 35 days and you where'd you go to place here in tampa oh that's nice yeah florida is fuller every every other building in florida is a rehab oh yeah this is a dump it was it was a an old like a what do you mean like a day's in no not a day's in but La Quinta oh yeah La Quinta over here on Fowler right yeah so my roommate my roommate's a doctor from Fort Lauderdale that's there for digesting

1:31:53crystal meth anally oh yeah that's one roommate now what's that got to do with me drinking the other one the other one the other guy is a 23-year-old that was taking 40 milligrams of Valium at 23. You don't think he was vibrating? The other guy, I'm trying to think. The other guy, I don't know what the hell he did, but I mean, it was so far-fetched. And here's the deal. I get there, I go through all the physical and all that, get all the shit done, right? The doctor checks me out. I wake up in the morning, and when I was a kid, I used to smoke, so i i just loaded up with cigarettes dip i've always dipped my whole life i've quit twice and i don't dip anymore but i you will again though yeah i might um but it's just nasty it's different oh yeah i don't like it but you'll do it yeah but um i look across the courtyard i'm smoking a marble right and i'm drinking a cup of coffee and i said i said to the guy my roommate i can't remember his name so this is not the guy that guy looks just like a doctor he said it's a doctor I said, what's he doing here?

1:32:58He said, he's been a patient here for five years. I said, the doctor is taking care of us as a fucking patient? What? I couldn't believe it. So I walked up to the counselor. I said, is that fucking guy, does he have a license? No, they pulled it. Well, how is he practicing medicine? It is a nut house. I was in the fucking night house. I mean, I cried. I went, this is the nut house. I'm full of nuts. When the doctor's taking care of you, Give me a shot, prescribing medication. And he's there for, he's a five-year vet. And he's a patient. And he's a patient. And he's taking care of me. Oh, my God.

1:33:40Who wrote that script? I don't know. That's what I said to him. Holy shit. Wow. Oh, my God. Damn, Rick. You're not allowed to talk to the girls, Rick. Okay. I didn't want you to take the test again. What does this look like? a bear or a skunk or an owl it looks like you dumb fuck why are you asking me the same question been looking at this box for three weeks three weeks and i'm not gonna change i don't know what it looks like what does it look like to you and why are you in here yeah you think i'm lying no shit and did y 'all do any athletics in there did y 'all do like volleyball you know one guy told me i missed the morning walk and we went to the big meeting i threatened to kill him i said next time you stooge on me a motherfucker i'll find you before we get here because the way i was thinking anybody want to talk the circle oh the circle before you go to bed god circle jerk god man no no shit it was brutal so you never so you never got that coin is it we're so proud to give you the coin to do i walked across the street i'm like walked into a bar put on the counter i said i'm you can have this to confirm it say rick flair was here and give me six miller lights and two jack and coke and two uh kettle one and cranberry and lime i drank them all right there then uh then i had a little pick me up and take me over to the beach yeah yeah oh you got to go for a swim after that oh jesus i wasn't kidding what was was there ever any like wild you're not supposed to drink okay oh wow that they faked me out with that for a while the company will never have you back break if you don't go back to rehab that you said you'd go back i'm not going back yeah well company number of years again i said okay fine two weeks later you come over to tv yeah of course i thought i wasn't allowed to come anymore you are do you think there was anything was there a point where you really damaged your ability to go back do you think that you damaged it not that they chose it no with them no i always got along with them yeah no that's that that's one of the reasons i'm successful i always have always said yes it's a difference between me and hulk and he'll tell you i said yes hulk said no yeah because i wanted to get along i didn't give a fuck right if they gave me something to do i just made it better i'll do whatever they put me in that house act like i'm not okay i am a nut did alcohol your son your your son uh had addiction issues i i've been recovery right so i've had addiction issues over the years it's in my family yeah with heroines i it's sad it's not an addiction it's a disease yeah it's unbelievable i've never it's i i was in such denial unbelievable wait and as a parent is it hard to notice when that's going on because i've never been a parent like is it hard to notice like yeah well i know i think i noticed a little bit when high school with the weed nap but here's the thing he was on life support four times okay just be prior to dying and one time one time when he came off the ventilator his left leg was like gone.

1:37:06I mean, we had to send him to Sierra Tucson. And from there to he went to Colorado to climb to this facility that exercised to get his leg back and all that. Oh, his leg shut down. That's like Eddie Money. Not shut down totally, but he was ripping. Yeah, Eddie Money used to huff so much gas that his leg shut down. Yeah, well, then the next time, The worst was his oxygen level went down to 42 for 24 hours. That's supposed to be in like 95 plus, 97 actually, 98. That thing I put on your finger, right? The doctor calls me in and says, if he wakes up, he's gonna be brain dead. So I was just, I'm preparing you.

1:37:53I swear to God, as I'm sitting here in front of you, he woke up, the whole family was there. we thought it was you know we all came everybody came from around the country it's a good because we thought he was gonna die right there he woke up he was completely normal wow nothing wrong did it shock you guys the doctor looked at me it shocked him he sat down he said i've never seen anything like this in my life i'm happy for you and i'm sorry that i gave you that diagnosis no I'm glad you did because then we went and sat down and figured out how to attack it again. Well, this is after the leg thing, man.

1:38:34He was a fighter, huh? Yeah. You kidding. But I mean, to this day, when you go to the doctor and he, if you, if your oxygen is at 42, you're, you're not supposed to be functioning. Yeah. You can't even whistle, dude. Yeah. And he woke up. He was completely fine. He's a tough kid. huh and i went i went my god this has got to be you know like this will be the wake-up call yeah and so i took him to tokyo and i was like i got on a plane to go back i looked up and said let me tell you they put paul mccartney in jail here for smoking a joint they will bury you and you get this very strict in tokyo you don't around like you do here with with drugs you're in drugs in tokyo or singapore something like that yeah in a world of man came back home to go to wrestlemania to see his daughter see my daughter and let him on my site went to buy tennis shoes came back went through went through delfrisco's to watch ncaa he wasn't drinking or anything bottle pills fell out of his pocket so wendy picks up the pills took it away didn't even tell him i had it right so he wants to go back to the hotel go go ahead so wendy went with him so when he calls me and says i'm not gonna read the door to get um um like aspirin or not town or something like that right and um he didn't answer the door so i went right back right this is what this is like all in 45 minute time right right yeah you're at del frisco's you hear that you head back i open the door he's like this just sit in a chair no sit on the floor okay so i didn't see any needles so i thought oh god he just i've seen him like this a thousand times so I said do I call the police the same thing at the same thing I said no I just I'm gonna put him in bed that would I because we were so lucky he didn't make the news because the cops kept it loaded on a DL for me they put them in rooms and under a different name and right they were helpful yeah they were understanding yes great guys they pulled him out of his car one time and called me i mean so i had a really great rapport with them so i just said i'll just let them i said but this time i said i'm gonna let them bottom out i mean that's they keep that that word bottom out you know yeah i just couldn't imagine him dying in an alley somewhere because i let him bottom out right i mean how would i ever get over that really hard so i wake up in morning and go out coffee with my oldest daughter come back and i just said i'm so mad at him right now i'm not going i opened the door just to check on him which i just i even walked out halfway i said i'm just going to check on him i can't just leave him walking he was purple called the cops same two same crew same exact people same paramedics boom and the guy said rick he did the same thing he yelled at we'll stand outside he came out three minutes and said he didn't make it oh i said what he said he didn't make it this time rick man well i've told this story a hundred times but i can't it still kills me i started drinking from 10 in the morning hell i got there at 9 30 because i knew the bartenders while they were setting up 9 30 in morning till 2 a.m for five years i just couldn't just i just couldn't believe it say if you don't go drink right then what why do you think you had to go like just i don't only way to get away from i didn't take drugs how do you get away from the feeling that you're responsible for not calling i should have called

1:42:51it's hard it's i'm sure it's really hard to be the parent of someone that has you know an addiction what did you learn about addiction like watching your son like did you was it anything that you were able to learn about like watching it from you know yeah don't be in denial i'm worse than fritz von eric fritz was in denial of the boys he would not believe that they were getting high that they were screwed up all the time he was in denial oh it's just you guys are just imagining it carry through the disc is 210 feet at houston i mean you know that big deep voice yeah the boys are fine they're just growing up and having a little fun smoking a little weed like they were a lot more than that but do you think addiction just runs in y 'all's family well i don't know your other children do they suffer from nothing nothing i don't know how he got it i mean it's heartbreaking to witness i've lost a lot of friends with from addiction and it is heartbreaking to watch you know so i can only imagine what it's like what was your son like like what kind of what kind of guy was he the greatest kid in the world fun handsome um i mean i don't talk about somebody he was a he was a lady killer man he i lived he lived with me for a while well after i got divorced the last time and he he would he would call me and say dad will you do me a favor and i said what's happened I said, will you talk to this girl's friend while I'm going?

1:44:30Will you run wingman for me? Yeah. He used to bring somebody to come get her out. I'll watch TV, but get the friend out of here. I can't even have a conversation with her. Jesus Christ. Did you have to really talk to some strange friends? I'll tell you something. If you can find humor in this, as I'm standing up there, let's say there were 1500 people at the funeral maybe 2000 a huge church in charlotte whatever it held and there were 20 girls in the first two rows i didn't know wow man i would take them down to south colina to columbia to go to the gamecock game uh-huh i said well i'm leaving tomorrow morning 10 o 'clock you come home with a different girl driving home the next day every day like father like son he was the master man yeah yeah and he's do you think he felt like it was tough to live i mean i just wonder what it's like if your dad is so such a you has had such a unique life you know do you i wonder if you do you feel competitive do you feel or it's just life that's just life i think i say it's just like because the other kids aren't affected like that at all yeah ashley's ashley ashley i can imagine maybe once in her life smoked a cigarette when she was 10 years old or 20 i mean nothing nothing and she's around it a lot i mean it's not as prevalent as it was which is a big difference thank god what drugs aren't prevalent now no there is probably not where the guys can just grab me they're more aware yeah for some reason thank god everybody's aware of the fact that the shit is dangerous yes and we didn't have time to think about back then yeah the guys and if it made you look bigger it kept you up longer but at least they have three days off we didn't have days off that's hulk the hulk was on i it wasn't just me hulk was out 72 days at a time wow it's a long time to be away from home oh i can't imagine yeah You come home, people look different.

1:46:44Yeah, the worst thing that ever happened was they invented cell phones so your goddamn wife would call you. Jesus. What's that song? Kid Rock and Cheryl Krohsingh. Living a life in a slow hell. Yeah. Different girl every night at the hotel. Yeah. Woo-woo. I used to call the front desk and say, if anybody calls to me, I ain't here. I am an alias unless I ask for Tony Atlas there's a comedian there's a comedian named Larry Reeb he used to have this joke one of my favorite jokes he said my wife said never answer the phone during sex I said what if it's you calling

1:47:34that's good shit I always love that one man did any strange woman ever show back up at your house Also, that had to freaking be scary. Oh, God, are you kidding me? You drove up in the driveway. I have no idea who you are. What do you mean? You promised me last night. I didn't promise you shit. Now my kids and my wife's in the front yard. Never admit you're wrong. What happened? Nothing. I found black hair on the carpet in here. I said, what are you talking about? I'm telling the dog over here. This is human hair. Who do you have here? Who'd you have here? Nobody. Somebody had a dog with 11-inch hair over here.

1:48:18You're like, I think it was a long-haired child. What are we going to do, you know? Oh, man. By the way, I'll have you. I'll call, though, please. You told me you loved me. What are you talking about? I didn't know your name. You lied. Maybe I did. What?

1:48:41what about the product man so this is new rick flair i like it man makes me feel good it does have we drank enough to get oh you did i'm almost done are you alert oh i can alert bro

1:49:00dude i'll have another can dude hell yeah it almost makes you feel erect a little wow oh what's the toughest thing about getting older rick by getting older yeah what's been like one of one thing that surprised you that you didn't think would be that certain way or something that's been kind of interesting you know it's interesting for me my my dad was 70 when i was born so it's all like even just getting to sit around a man who's 70 and or right and be in the present it's just you know it's almost like um i don't know it's just interesting for me you know i never got to spend a bunch of time talking with my dad and stuff so even to be able to have a conversation as an adult yeah the guy in his 70s kind of like resonates with me in like a special place i think um what's yeah what's been interesting about just being older like what's or what's been surprising about getting older what what do you think would not be one way or maybe would be different or um you know i don't know i don't think i even ever thought about anything like that until i got sick then you really appreciate you appreciate when you recover from something like that i mean the airplane crash was one thing getting there with lightning was something else but when you literally are life support and you almost die yeah and then you realize that for some reason you're lucky enough to be and i truly believe that he makes every decision he's gonna give you another shot i spend so much time preoccupied with trying to figure out how not to fuck up really yeah because i love to fuck up yeah i mean i love to have fun i don't mean i don't mean fuck up right i don't want to hurt anybody right but how do i how do i have fun and not get in trouble well well it's just because social media you can't do anything and I love to go out and I never drink at my house there's not one drop of alcohol in my house I'm a social drinker that's purely me and I just go out every night you know people don't understand when you spend 38 years on the road like Kevin Nash said to me one time if I don't spend two nights in a hotel every week I'm lost

1:51:18when I took that year off and Bischoff sued me. Yeah. And I went home. I hadn't been home. I hadn't been home and didn't even know my wife. Christ, my mother-in-law lived there now. We had two maids. I didn't even know it. What an advanced daytime drinking. Three o 'clock at the country club. Sometimes at one. Wow. What are you going to the country club? I'm not playing cards. I'm drinking. Yeah. And I'm talking to the bartender. She's nice looking. i'm playing poker with my liver that's what i'm playing it's pasta night send the kids up dude i remember my dad used to take us to the bar and they'd have like that bowl of fucking peanuts oh i know fucking man it was so much fun dude and that's when bars didn't even have tvs and i remember that that that i can't deal with no tv no bar no me these days you got to have the TV, you want the sports on?

1:52:14I live and die for sports. But you remember when they didn't have them, don't you? Yeah, you want to know something? Yeah. I never knew, this is the guy's, I'm so embarrassed. I didn't know what Prime, Netflix, Hulu, I didn't know what that was until I got sick. I didn't know how to Google myself. Yeah. I didn't know what Google was. all i did was drive travel wrestle and have fun i didn't know anything i'm still not computer literate she showed me the other day how to work emojis on my phone oh i mean i'm i'm and then and then when i'm laying in the chair home from the hospital i didn't after being in rehab for a month learn how to walk.

1:53:05I didn't know that I had a stoma. What did you think? One day I'm sitting there, I'm home in the house, and the girl comes and says, I'm here to change your bag. And I said, my bag. What do you mean, jerk you off? No, this. Oh, that's what, yeah. Yeah, and I go, and I said, I said, I didn't walk on rehab, because I couldn't walk or anything. Oh. and they're there and i had forgotten i didn't know i didn't know had this dome in rehab the whole time you're in rehab yeah i didn't know it for 31 days then i got home and the woman's there to change it wow yeah that's all but that then you were out of it then you appreciate life yeah was it hard to go back to drink well then were you shocked that you just after that 30 after the days in rehab that you went back to drinking is it scary like is it bad for you to drink if like is it did the doctors say don't drink

1:54:06i mean also the doctor was in the facility so oh they said don't drink of course they did okay but here's the deal yeah so being from a family medical family i went i didn't get one second opinion i got 30 okay every time i met a doctor didn't do anything about your your internal mm-hmm I'd had prior surgeries in 2015 and it's one in 1 million times that you can nick your intestine and it can burst again mm-hmm and I was not 1 million so now when I drink my kidney levels everything perfect and my my kidney levels are off a little bit the doctor tells me drink more water so now I drink probably drink I drink a small bottle of water nice you got a plan now got a plan what do you think God put you on earth for do you think about that sometimes it seems like you do hmm I don't know but I'm sure trying to mend my ways I'm a wild I'm harmless but I was harmless but wild I'm harmless I've been neutered twice with nurses that did not sign the waiver I wonder how many run around we thought we thought what wrestler had that real hammer on him no homo but what wrestler really had that freaking wand on him I don't remember somebody had to have that launcher um you've been around some of the biggest men in the world yeah i know i'm trying to think i mean what about haystack baby oh i want a new haystack no no he might have that needle on him yeah i got the name but i don't want to put on the air yeah no no sweat yeah yeah i got it no i don't even have to know because i he's married with kids like no look i'm just glad somebody's got a big one i tease his wife all the time oh yeah when you see one of those joust victims like his wife that's got to be unreal yeah but she wouldn't she wouldn't like me making a joke no i don't think i don't think we should i'm not trying to get it out of here this will be the page the front page out of the whole interview.

1:56:34Ric Flair says, damn, I remember. But there's something about you, you know, because most of your life you get to know your own wiener, right? And then every now and then somebody walks across with some real crazy wiener and you're like, my God, that guy's fucking running a different ball game. That guy's in a different line of work. He's different genetic. Yeah, that guy's fucking, that guy's in a different line of work. Boys, any other questions that you had? there's anything the last match i saw you last match in national yeah oh that's right dehydrated man it would have been so good yeah were you what do you mean you're dehydrated for it no i was fixated on weighing 218 pounds i was in better shape then than i was in 2008 i mean i was up there i woke where i won right now to john cena's trainer 500 free squats wow running a mile and i hate running this is two years ago a year ago july wow year ago july and uh i mean i got i had 10 weeks to get in shape for it and i was doing everything i mean and i had a partner and i drove i dropped that's wrong going out to rob john cena's guy up at land lakes i mean and we've but i was fixated on my got down to 218 um but i'm a cosmetic of a nightmare anyway so i was gonna wear a shirt but i i woke up in the morning of course i was drinking the night before at the palm with the hilton in nashville right i love that bar yeah it's nice and then i saw bobby you know one night so um bobby rock kid rock yeah yeah and then he came in to match oh yeah he walked in my dressing room and he went um i've been entertaining you for a long time they want you to i came to watch you entertain me tonight and then we all went to his place afterwards yeah We had a big night.

1:58:30It's fun in there, dude. They got to get a bathroom on each floor, though, man. That's a good point, huh? That's a good point, man. Jesus Christ. You can buy a fucking bathroom. That five-floor climb downstairs to one stall when they got 2 ,000 people, it's horrifying. Oh, God. It makes me want to get one of those stoma bags. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, no, don't worry about that. But anyway, so all I had was two cups of coffee and three egg bites. I didn't drink any water or anything. And I got out there, and I felt great and all that. And then I realized that anxiety, and I made the mistake of saying to one of the guys, I don't feel good.

1:59:11Because now they think I'm having a heart attack. Yeah. Or da-da-da-da. And I just said, I don't feel it. I got lightheaded. I actually fell asleep on the apron. I'm standing, right? Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. During the match? And the guy had to go, Rick, Rick, Rick. And I woke up and then I got back in. And then I did something else. And I'm laying there. And at the end, Manny, my son-in-law, is going, you have to wake up, sir. I have to wake up, sir. He was handing me the brass knucks to hit Jarrett with, right? So he put the brass knucks on my hand. You have to wake up, sir. You have to wake up, sir.

1:59:57but you know i went on the floor i got i got whacked myself way too early and then because everybody was panicking and to end it right i had faked like i was having a heart attack i went ah just because i want i want everybody i said slow down motherfuckers we we can do this i mean i can make it just listen to me but you know what everybody first of all i appreciate they were scared to death i was gonna die okay but i wanted the match to be better because we'd rehearsed it to be a 20 minute unbelievable they're supposed to suplex me off the top rope and all kinds of shit but anyway it that's what makes me want to do it again because i got in such good shape and it's like i'm a really goal oriented like now my new goal is like i'll be 75 right so in february so i want to bench press 225 five times and i want to do the 500 free squats in 14 minutes again wow yeah that's a lot yeah it's it it's very doable but you have to do it no no that might be one of the best quotes i've ever heard it's very doable but yeah but you have to do it yeah i used to be able to do when i was really in the best shape of my life i used to take a deck of cards jokers being 20 face card uh faces ace king queen or 10 right so flip the card right 10 crunches 10 push-ups 10 free squats next one joker 20.

2:01:36wow i could do all that it's 457 of each in 38 minutes is my record that's hard because getting up and down for the free squats and the push-ups 440 57 push-ups is fucking hard that's a lot yeah jesus that's a lot yeah that's okay i couldn't do that for the last match but i when in my in your prime well trying to you know when you're traveling these shit towns right it don't have they don't even have a ymca oh yeah some of these small towns so i just sat in the hotel room and had to figure out a way to kill the day so there's other you know what's who's somebody you miss wrestling who do i miss wrestling yeah like who was the biggest thing i miss about wrestling is the camaraderie god when you just know who personally like is there a person you met you were like man we really it was just a real oh i miss iron the most probably he just lost a son too to addiction or no i'm not sure what it was but he it's a horrible thing yeah um i just had it up i traveled so many wonderful guys i traveled with sean and hunter i love i love hanging out with undertaker and i don't get to see him very often love steve austin i hardly get to see steve steve steve just um you know keeps himself in basically isolation yeah undertaker came out to a show of mine a week and a half ago two weeks ago in austin oh yeah it's really nice to meet him and michelle that's his wife yeah beautiful yeah she's beautiful they just adopted a beautiful little baby oh really yeah oh i didn't know that yeah yeah they're a great couple they were so kind yeah he's a great guy that was cool um who did was it did you ever get to meet madonna no but dennis rodman did dennis is my man is he How in the hell do you cheat on Madonna for Carmen Electra?

2:03:39I go, I mean, Dennis, I said, Dennis, Dennis, you realize that I would walk on fire to lay on top of that. And you caught her. I think Madonna is incredible. Oh, yeah. When she was younger, what's that song of hers? Like a virgin? Like a virgin. Jesus Christ. Dance, da-da. Yeah. With your heartbeat. I'll tell you this story, Rick. So I met my grandparents, right, dude? And they wouldn't let us watch wrestling or nothing, dude, because they were fucking, you know, they wanted the Lord to find us. And so I would go across. On the Lord's Day. That's what my mother-in-law would say to my wife, they're drinking again out by the pool.

2:04:27And on the Lord's Day. Kiss my ass, Mary Ann. The Lord's Day. Every day is the Lord's Day. Especially you freeloader living off me. That's the bottom line, baby. Freeloader. On the Lord's Day. Shoot it, mama. Shoot it, booze. Oh, God. That would make a guy drink. Yeah, that probably started it. jesus christ god we used to pack the beer cans up me and iron right to tell stories laugh all day long i went across the street i met my grandparents so i'll go across the street there's nothing to do they live in they're in a small town in illinois in wyoming illinois so i'll go across the street and there's a park there yeah and some girl i never known her or anything she had a tr like a transistor radio she plugged it in and tuned it to like a virgin right yeah she's that starts dancing on this picnic table for me and i'd never met her or anything i'm just like i'm like probably nine or ten i walked into the park and i was just wondering what like what what big stars came out to see you got like what like i was trying to think of some of the big stars then that were like some of the biggest in the world and who you would have crossed paths with that would have been surprising not that many i mean i'll tell you i like i adore chris everett right yeah so i'm flying to japan and i'm sitting this far from chris ever she's wearing a yellow polo shirt right gold rolex this is in the 80s smoking hot right god and i mean and uh not a word yeah yeah i'm not gonna go over and shoot myself and die right and she didn't give you a sauna Nothing.

2:06:20Zero. Zero. Double O's. But I flew back with Yvonne Lindell, and he wouldn't stop talking. Oh, God. Jesus Christ. Yvonne, get a drink. Calm down. Yes, wrestling's fake. Okay, now motherfucker. Can we move forward? I live like short of an instant, man. Good for you, buddy. Dude, I sat next to Eddie Money one time. Yeah. He told me he used to huff gas, right? And so one of his legs shut down and quit working. and then he started showing me semi-nude pictures of his newest wife okay it's pretty cool yeah i know i can't get i can't get my wife doing that yeah well no she is she is like uh-uh you gotta respect it you know what if i want to show you this rick so i have an alternate personality it's a wrestler right and it's called uh the rat king baby so i just want to show you one of my promos let me know what you think okay and this isn't you rick this is a different guy what are your thoughts on that you think you're better than the regular folk rick you think you're better than wrestling fans than the regular people who run you out your little loose meat dinners well i got news for you what kind of news he is saying anyone can get it will you be the one rat king all you need to know rick is that i'm ready because i'm gonna give you the truth baby and i'm gonna give you the trauma name the time and the place and the place and the time because i got a clock and a globe and an axe to grind from alaska to nebraska from maine to fort Wayne It's your call you turkey slicing Boner monkey What do you think there?

2:08:11Potential I'll take it man From a legend I'll take it Rick thanks so much for sharing your life with us man You've been It's obviously you've wanted to be an entertainer And you've been extremely entertaining Throughout my entire life Thank you very much You guys have a great trip Woo She's reminding me of my own gimmick. Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take... ABC Wednesday, Shifting Gears is back. He has arisen. Tim Allen and Kat Dennings return in television's number one new comedy.

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