E488 Nick Kyrgios

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0:41General on sale starts Friday, March 15th at 10 a.m. local time. We thank you so much for the support. We also have tickets remaining in Atlanta, Georgia and St. Louis, Missouri. Those shows are in April. Get all your tickets through Theovan.com slash T-O-U-R. Today's guest is that tennis bad boy. Love, love, baby. We'll see about it. He is a professional tennis man, and he's a commentator. He was a finalist at the 2022 Wimbledon. He has his own podcast called Good Trouble. Very excited to sit down with one of Australia's most unique personalities. Today's guest is Nick Kyrgios. shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories shine on me and I will find a song I'll be singing I'm gonna stay thank you guys for coming man Yeah, Nick Kyrgios Yep, Kyrgios, that was pretty good And you have a new podcast of your own Yeah, it's called Good Trouble Good Trouble, yeah Just had Gary Vee on, Jay Shetty Had a couple cool people, Gordon Ramsay I thought about, what about By Kyrgios Would be a name By Kyrgios, yeah, look, there were definitely a lot of spin-off of names Was there?

2:19Yeah, but Good Trouble Being Kyrgios Yeah, I'm trying to think of a different one Hey, Kyrgios that's kind of Italian but dude thanks for hanging out with me man and yeah thank you guys for welcoming me in your country it feels my biggest audiences are here really yeah yeah I mean all my mates we like what you bring oh thanks man definitely what's it been like for you recently I know you kind of have had like a little bit of a break from playing tennis right yeah I've had two surgeries now in the last year I had my left knee had a right wrist surgery as well so just trying to get back healthy man i had best year of my career yeah finals wimbledon love and life and then a couple injuries but it's good man i like being back in australia because if i'm healthy i'm traveling like eight months a year away from family and friends so just for tennis it takes that much a commitment yeah well it's there's tournaments every week you play every week in different places different countries so i'm pretty happy like not to be injured but spend some time with the families yeah is it dangerous like i would be scared because comfort gets kind of dangerous you know yep like you're comfortable or you have just a even just getting to go to the like the things i miss when i'm away from home it's even just getting to go to the gym with my mates like little things like that it's like that would keep me from going and doing some dates sometimes some shows it's like i just want to have this normal yeah does that kind of shit start to like worry your brain at all like yeah well that's what i was missing the like for 10 years i was traveling week in week out i missed just waking up in my own bed like spending time with my dogs all my friends like going to the cafe and i guess i'm getting that now which is good like i'm definitely spending more time in australia i'm busy though like you know how it is even when you're back home you're trying to you know have meetings or be busy and stuff but yeah look i i don't mind just being from canberra and chilling in sydney a little bit yeah yeah in tennis because I don't know a ton about tennis.

4:20I used to live with some people and they played it a lot. And they had a little bit of money. They would drink wine and eat a lot of charcuterie and stuff. But they would do tennis during the daytime. And the skirts, I like the skirts on the women. Do you? But outside of that, I never knew a ton about it. Is it like, because you've gotten to be at a level in it that's really impressive, right? Appreciate it. when you get to certain levels you get to see what the next shelf is like or what that you know you get a better look at certain things right do you see that there's like a thing that makes some people get to an elite level like is it extra training is it commitment is it just nature like is it just that some people just have it like um i'm just curious about like what it what it's what can you see once you get to your level that um that separates the elites and i'm not saying you're not an elite player no do you understand what i'm saying i was about to just yeah go where you're going is like i'm probably really like i'm really good i'm elite but then what separates me from someone say like novak jokovic or you know rafan like the greatest of all time like for me i was partying a lot when i was playing like i would play then go to the pub like and i wouldn't I don't regret it.

5:37Like, I love the fact that, like, my agents or my team had to drag me out of places at, like, 4 a.m. Like, I love that shit. Yeah. But at the same time, like, that was what separated me, I guess, from them. Like, they were so diligent, so consistent. Like, now I'm a lot better, but obviously when I was a bit younger. But the consistency that they've shown over decades is why, like, they're having way more success than I have. Is some of it nature, do you think? Do some guys just have a different element, like a different gear that God gave them? or do you think that it's like a commitment thing?

6:09Because I'm just curious because tennis is such a solo sport. It's like golf. It's like, I mean, there's no team really. It's just fucking you out there. Yeah, I mean, I played, my longest match is four hours and 52 minutes. Oh my God, dude. And I was having some serious conversations. That's like watching Oppenheimer but having to play the whole time. Yeah, you have some mental, serious, some serious mental conversations with yourself. But I mean. Yeah, I bet, dude. Jesus. like uh and then you have like you gotta do that again for seven days straight to win a tournament basically no way is that true that's like a grand slam yeah that's like how hard it is mentally i mean but the consistency like for instance my nature i wasn't willing to give up like the fun aspect of things whilst i was playing where like if i did that definitely i probably would have had more success but i've had so much fun in my career like those are the memories i'm sure you i can't talk about them here but like those are the memories you take to the grave and oh yeah and I wouldn't trade that for Grand Slam.

7:06There's no way. That's the trade-off. You're kind of like John Daly. Have you ever heard of him a little bit? Yeah, I've heard of him. You're kind of like that. Or John Knightley maybe because I think he'd party during the daytime more because that guy's still partying. I've seen him. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. I've seen him get a couple times an ambulance as his Uber basically. That's pretty crazy. That's a lot. Oh, I've seen him. The ambulance got called. and there was some confusion as to where he was on the premises, and he went and got in the shotgun of the ambulance. He went and got in the passenger seat and just waited.

7:43He's like, what the fuck is taking you guys so long? Taking you guys so long. Yeah, just taking you guys. He's sitting in there. Gee whiz. And they're just running around with a little, I'm not sure what it's called. What's some of like, and I'm not going to just grill you about tennis because I don't know a ton about it, but I do want to get some thoughts that I had. Like what are some things like, cause football, you kind of know what the physical aspect is and like the training. What is shit that people don't know that like, like tennis training, like, well, tennis is a tough one because you don't know when you're going to play exactly.

8:16Like when the schedule comes out, like for instance, soccer or football or NBA, or like you have an exact time when you know where the game's going to start and the duration of how long the game goes for where tennis is, you don't know what time you're going to play, where it could be at night. could be first match at 10 a.m could be at 7 p.m and then it could go for an hour and a half to five hours oh so it's like how do you train for something with so many different intangibles and variables that's always been a big challenge for every tennis player it's like you train for something that you don't even know what's coming and there's no teammates you're out there on your own um and i think that's why tennis players for me this it's one of the toughest sports in the world because we're going you know one week we're in asia one week we're in europe in the states for maybe a month then australia it's like different different diet different food different time zones and it's like you got to adapt and have that adaptability to be good and that's that's tough because most other professional athletes like set in stone preparation food sleep that's what in tennis is like you just have to just go with the flow dude i always really struggle with it i think yeah there's like no routine really you have to try and find yeah it's hard oh my god that's why i've lost my marbles definitely yeah oh i can't even imagine yeah i mean and from australia as well it's worse we have like two tournaments a year here so the rest of it's just traveling around living out of a hotel oh to live out of yeah because it's hard enough for me like i know i guess i just sound like i'm complaining i don't it doesn't sound like we're complaining no it's it's it's definitely a nice lifestyle like learning about cultures and meeting new people and traveling to the cooler but it's not like oh i think a lot of people think when i'm traveling i'm like enjoying going sightseeing like i'm working like you know i'm playing i'm training i'm going to bed like yeah it's hard it's not easy yeah i mean last night like i get off stage and i know that i have to do this today right i know that i have to edit like a previous episode and look over it you know so i'm up for till probably at two i went to sleep and um and not complaining it was cool but it's not like yeah you get to get out sort of walk in the park right yeah and yeah there's some like dame that's hitting you up she wants to hang out but you're like, I know I have to do what I got to do or it's going to be, you know.

10:26Multitasking or not? Yeah, I'm going to save this freaking, you know, I'm going to save my nuts for Kyrgios, you know? That's what I was thinking. Not in a gay way, but I'm just going to save my energy. I'll look off of the bed. Thanks, bro. No worries. It is. Dude, also, the food is totally different here. The food is totally different. The eggs are different. Dude, if you get to a country and the eggs are different, That can throw me off For a fucking week Wait do you like the eggs here Like the cafes are good here Like are you a breakfast guy Or a dinner guy I'm a breakfast guy There's good cafes here You like coffee I don't I like some of it Sometimes it kind of fucking I'll get a little bit weird on it But I gotta monitor How much I drink But So I'm doing green tea right now There's a lot of caffeine In that too though Yeah I make sure I get The low caffeine one Right But yeah I feel you Cause some of that shit Yeah Australian coffee is good though Is it Yeah very good Yeah I'll give you a list of good cafes you should go to after yeah tomorrow you're leaving on tuesday right yeah yeah go to definitely some good cafes you gotta go to i don't know you probably can't go out in here in public can you um it's it's it's not bad it's got uh this is like i i never realized it really until this time that this is my biggest audience you know it's like years ago when i came my biggest show ever was here like just of numbers of people coming yep and then this time it's been like that and I'm like wow this is really must feel good it's in it's crazy but I just kind of forget that then I get here and I'm like oh wow so many people say hello and it's nice um we are friendly people oh dude too friendly people are just they're so fucking friendly you almost want them to fucking stab you or something you're like you can't handle it not much of that you're like just rob me or something at least you know I'm saying but you just want to feel at home you want to feel like you're back in the states you know yeah like oh i don't know i can't relate to that i do have a lot of friends in the states but it's so nice here dude yeah it is not having just the constant threat of crime or murder yeah yep big time it's just so relaxing um yeah i was thinking about that like um i wasn't thinking about anything really i guess but um what else is going on you think I mean I gotta do I gotta do another podcast after this Nuh uh Yeah Do you really?

12:44Yeah Your own? No not my own Just I'm jumping on a mate's one Oh wow It can be a lot sometimes huh? Yeah I mean Trying to juggle around I gotta somehow Find some time to train As well Gotta keep the missus entertained Oh you got a wife? Oh no She's not my wife But she's my partner yeah Oh yeah Yeah She needs attention She does Yeah And what do you like to do With their lady You guys go Kayaking or what do you guys do No look I'm not like I'm Australian but I'm not like a true blue Aussie In the sense like I do like crazy Australian stuff like I'll probably I'll get dinner Tonight with the I'll try I don't really want to drink any wine because then If I have one I'll have two then I'll probably go out I don't want to do that because I don't want to feel like Shit tomorrow morning yeah What about you what are you doing tonight What we do we got a show And then the show starts an hour early So we might be able to we might do something after If you, the only thing, the only reason if I will go out tonight, if I'm going out with you, then I'll, I'll, I'll come.

13:40Wow. That's the, that's, I'll, I'm going to give that deal to my miss. So if the other one wants to go out, I don't care what else is on the schedule that we're clearing it. Dear Christ, then we'll tell, tell the miss to put on her heels then. All right, I'm down. All right, cool. She got no excuse then. Yeah, dude. So if your tour starts back up for tennis, how do you jump back into tennis? Can you just go back in at a certain point Or do you have to wait until a season starts What's it like So basically there's a ranking system So by me not playing for the last year and a half Because of injury I lost my ranking But I have like a protected ranking Of like 20 So I can come back at pretty much any point in time When I'm healthy And I just slot back in basically Is it scary to be like Alright I'm ready to go That seems fuck-ish Big time Because for me as a player There's obviously a lot of eyes Because I'm very controversial and stuff so because you're almost black a little yeah maybe in a very white privileged sport like tennis um oh people see a guy with a people see a guy that's been in the sun for a half hour and they're like oh look at this brother trying to cause trouble yeah there is a bit of that there is a bit of that um but yeah so i guess when i'm playing it's like oh he's coming back and there's a lot of pressure on it so i need to make sure that when i'm ready to go then you're ready for all that exactly because it's like i can't i don't fly underneath the radar which would be nice sometimes yeah it's like what is he gonna do now exactly yeah is he gonna you know chew gum during his match or what god forbid I do that are you allowed to do that yeah you can do that yeah I mean I've done it yeah but like yeah you're right like I walk differently on the court and people are like look at this deviant yeah exactly gang member yeah literally I should show you some articles after this it's crazy it's crazy yeah dude is there any good moments where people yell shit at tennis because it's such a refined like if you want to get a good like it's probably it's frowned upon right because it feels very organized out there yeah wimbledon like you can't say a thing like it's very like you can hear the royal family's there like i was cussing in front of the royal family which was funny like it was good gave him gave him a show but us open so loud new york's crazy um but people don't really i mean now people are screaming out a lot like really yeah and like Like, I mean, I told, like, there was a time at, like, in Cali when I was playing and Ben Stiller was in the crowd and one of his friends was, like, telling me how to play.

16:01And I was like. Oh, fuck that guy. I was like, bro, are you good at tennis? Like, why are you speaking? And then I said to Ben, I was like, do I tell him how to act? Yeah. Like, no. Like, I love Ben Stiller. It's hilarious. But people do scream out some pretty crazy shit. Racial stuff sometimes. Pretty. Really? Yeah. And you're not even, are you? No. No, I'm half Malaysian, half Greek. Oh, God. Yeah. I am mixed, yeah. But you'd have to have a damn calculator to get racist against somebody like you. I feel like you got to, you know what I'm saying? You got to really have a chart or something. Yeah.

16:30People are so diverse now. If you don't really, to really be a good racist, you have to have. Yeah. You do your race edge. Yeah. You got to at least be able to do some math almost. I think that's why a lot of racism is disappearing because there's a barrier to entry now because people are so mixed, you know? Yeah. What do you think about when you see some of these matches? is like they just said didn't they just have jake paul was gonna fight uh tyson what do you think about that shit man it's fucking crazy isn't it it's fucking dumb i think like well what are you expecting what do you think the outcome is gonna be well i think because i thought that jake paul would have lost by now even fighting these guys at some stage but he keeps winning like i know that they're not like in their prime or whatever but the whole background was fighting that's a point and he he keeps like somehow pulling it out like if he pulls this one out i don't care how old mike tyson gets i'm not even fighting that guy until it because i did he actually sat down on my show he's fucking crazy really yeah like i felt i would not fight even if he's 70 years old i'm not i'm not fighting you what he just felt like he had that danger in him yeah yeah exactly well i asked him what would you be if you weren't a boxer he said a fucking criminal like stone and i'm like okay nice um so yeah if he pulls this one out what do you think well I think I mean well Jake fought like Nate Robinson who was like Nate should never have taken that fight Nate should not just his whole basketball right it kind of was a Knicks legend and it was just kind of like oh can Jake beat a black eye that was kind of the ambiance of that when it felt like and then people were shocked but then he fought Woodley which is tough which is tougher but Woodley has not been the same fighter he's been for years and he hasn't been a good punch thrower what about diaz i thought diaz was going to get the job done yeah that's a good point and then d and then silver like i thought these guys are like some of the greatest ufc fighters of all time like especially silver right i mean he picked great names but then now he's kind of gone into boxing he fought fury yeah he lost that okay he lost that one right he lost oh yeah that's right he lost to tommy fury and i think tyson could be still a little bit better than i would rather fight fury than mike tyson yeah i think well i don't i mean they had that Tyson against Jones Jr.

18:39fight a few years ago. Is that right? And it was just them hugging. Basically, you paid$50 to watch two brothers hug. Which I would do. I believe in, you know, I want all my black friends to do well and everything. I believe in the community and the culture. But it's like, actually, yeah, I would actually pay$50 to watch two brothers hug for an hour. That would be a great pay-per-view, but they build it as a boxing match. Jones was gassed out early Well was Tyson gassed too? Yeah But they hugged so quick after any exchange It was hard to know Yeah it almost seemed like It was like Does this hurt Tyson's legacy if he loses it?

19:22I don't think so I think his shit is so locked in Yeah you think so? Yeah I think it is Is it staged at all? Now that's the part I don't know I don't know if Tyson's going to agree to say hey you can knock me out yeah that's what i'm saying so you know and because some of the weed can't even knock him out like dude that dude is taking on let's say this yes he fought uh leon holmes or whatever but he's also fought you know uh purple hooker 4.0 weed you know what i'm saying or whatever the strains are you know he gave me a box of it when i was in uh did he really gassed out monster or whatever they keep coming up with different flavors you know the ears too kiwi prison and shit and you're like fuck dude this shit is fucking hard dude detroit for your lungs is a new flavor i'm like that's alarming so i think if he can beat all of that when is it when is the fight jane well jake had a fight the other day he fought like a footlocker manager yeah he basically fought a guy i'm not even joking nobody knew that i didn't know who he was Even the guy's father was tweeting like, I didn't know my son was involved in this.

20:31Yeah, it's like. Well, there's a good fight right now. Joshua Nangano is on now. That's a good one. Oh, Anthony Joshua and Francis Nangano? That's on right now, I think. At this moment? Yep. Oh, wow. Joshua won. Anthony Joshua won. Wow. I was pretty surprised by that, actually. I thought Nangano was going to win that. There's something so lovable about Nangano, you watch him do anything. Yeah, that's true. He's a big man. Yeah. I would watch him eat a piece of birthday cake for one hour on pay-per-view. Yeah, he's a pretty good physique. I'm not going to lie. And there's just something charming about him.

21:06There's something about some players and athletes. That's one thing I do love about the UFC is that you can get to know some of the athletes. You get because of the press conferences they give them. and the interviews at the end of the fights and stuff, you start to get a little bit of an idea of who they are. Who do you like? I'm a huge Poirier guy. Oh, yeah. He's fighting soon too, I saw. Yeah, yeah. He's fighting tomorrow. And this will come out next week, so he will have just fought. But, yeah, I love him. I love, I mean, the Diaz guys. I love the guys that I don't even like because you just get to know them.

21:46Like, they're either the villains or you get to see their personalities online. Sugar Sean he's fighting it's just so entertaining there are a lot of characters on there now that I'm thinking about it but I think Jake Paul could really bang on him it looks like I think it hurts Tyson's legacy if he loses because no one really talks about who he fought back then it's just like he did what he did and he achieved it and now if he loses it's going to be everywhere yeah it's a good point when do you say hey I'm good with where sure he doesn't need the money and is he in the right mind who's signing that deal for him i don't know i don't know i'm gonna i'm just gonna be watching you know he fought who else did he fight he fought damn lester douglas he fought fucking 50 shades of cannabis he's fought everybody he's fought everything he's fought delta eight probably when it first came on the market that guy fucking you're fucked no i'm just saying he that guy there's nothing yeah yeah he's but he's Been through a lot.

22:49Like he told me that he'd been through like, I mean, he's obviously, he's been pretty open about it, but he said that he, he burnt the wick at both ends. Like he used to party like crazy and fight. It's nuts. Do you feel that ever? Like, Oh, as you get a little bit older, you're like, Oh, I can't even do that shit anymore. No. Oh, you're still good. Yeah. We're still good. Yeah. Eating better is easy with factors, delicious, ready to eat meals. They're tasty. They're good. You get them and you're like, is this going to be good? and then wow, it's good. That's all there is to it. Every fresh, never frozen meal is chef crafted, dietician approved and ready to go in just two minutes.

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25:08Their fee is free unless they win. For more information, go to forthepeople.com slash this past weekend or dial pound law pound 529 from your cell phone. That's forthepeople.com slash this past weekend or pound law, pound 529 from your cell. This is a paid advertisement. Oh, yeah. Dude, I had some. Yeah, dude, I had. I because I don't party anymore. So I had one time I relapsed. I was in. I was in. Where was I in Cleveland? What are you doing in Cleveland? I don't know. It ended up being drugs. Oh, I know that it was supposed to be work. And it was, but I ended up doing work and drugs. And then, yeah, the next night I had a show in Indianapolis.

25:59And, like, oh, it was horrible. I'd been getting, like, IVs all day and had to go on stage and just felt kind of rattled. You know? I was miserable. What do you do now to just stay on the straight and narrow? Nothing. I just got off of vaping, so, but I'll have some fucking, what will I do? I'll have some fucking Pepsi Max or I'll fucking slam a couple Coke Zeroes and just. I don't know squeeze my fucking penis sometimes I just I don't try not to jerk off at night really yeah because I think I have better dreams and like visions and stuff if I don't so I'm trying yeah I'll just try to just sometimes instead of masturbating I'll just squeeze my wiener as hard as I can almost squeezing the devil back into my body the fact that you say all of this like that last two sentences with a completely straight face I believe you thanks I genuinely believe you I believe me too man I've just done it so many times Cause for me man If I'm The devil comes out of my wiener That's where I feel like If I had to really You know what I'm saying If I start thinking about something I will fucking I will tie my fucking penis to my foot And kick somebody's fucking neck open That's how I feel You're fucking crazy bro But that's how I feel man sometimes But I think that's drugs Also built up in my system Possibly yeah Yeah and I used to vape I'm actually like Maybe 11 days off of vaping right now Yeah get off the vape It's fucking horrible It's killing children Yeah no I don't like vaping It's Oh dude you see they had a That vape shop blew up You see that bitch Finally somebody's infiltrating these places Here's right here What did a vape like explode?

27:42Explosion at vaping warehouse Look at this In Michigan of course Any vape at any time Can kind of fucking do that Look at them blasting off like fireworks Like is it good That the same things Is getting inhaled into people's lungs Yeah shit that's in fireworks Would you take a firework Over to a Look at this This looks like Gaza

28:13And look there's some kids running up Trying to get free vapes and shit That's insane They're just catching the free ones Oh I'm sure there's some fucked hard Just four buildings down Just with his head out there Yeah Oh yeah that's cranberries I'm glad you're off that Yeah thanks man And yesterday I had a moment Where somebody had one and I looked at it And then I didn't even think about it And it was the first time that my brain felt like Oh thank god I'm not doing that shit Yeah dude It's horrible And also you're a fucking adult and you're vaping And people see you And you feel like just a pedophile It looks like it's for children you know Yeah I mean so you don't drink anything anymore No alcohol at all Not right now because I'll buy drugs that's why Yeah okay Did you ever get on Did you ever drink much Yes Really Yeah I still drink a little bit yeah Yeah I don't mind Yeah if you're good at it fucking do it Yeah Do it until you can't do it I'm glad I did That solidifies it I'm never gonna ever touch a vape again Well yeah you saw that imagine if somebody took a bottle rocket up to a 7th grader and just lit one in and said hey bub smoked it it seems to be safe fuck that it's got the same chemicals as a fucking 4th of July in it that's just damn alarming I'm sure there's probably people trying to get those vapes now like explosion vapes that's the thing they'll just mark it as a new thing it'll be a new marketing tactic like come get these explode you know that's social media though yeah somehow turn something like that into a positive yeah it's pretty alarming um what else do you see can people you can't vape out on the court anybody ever smoke at halftime during y 'all's games we don't have halftime but um nah like look I mean I've the closest thing to something pretty loose on a tennis court if you see someone drinking like a coca cola like there was back in the old days I think people used to maybe like there was like a guy who played this actually one of the he played the william sisters because like there was a big thing between like can females and males like compete at the same level and then some guy ranked like 200 went out there with like i think it's you can actually find on the internet he was smoking a cigarette and having a beer while he played the william sisters and he beat them but like he was that was probably the last time someone ever smoked a cigarette on court wow it was one verse two no he he versus serena i think venus first and then serena after so there is a difference in level between there's the masculine and feminine play usually i mean i believe so yeah i mean well there's a genetic difference there's a yeah you know there's two two separate tours yeah big time there's a scientific difference there's also probably a difference in where your body can even move i don't know what they are but because i think women have a different um cossacks or like uh i don't know what it's called hips or whatever you know i don't know i don't man yeah but yeah we we we play for we play like grand slams we play best of five which can go for like five hours and if you play against a woman or people like do there's mixed doubles there's mixed doubles oh there is like i played i played with venus against like someone else yeah wow mixed doubles was fun i think mixed doubles is actually should be played more because it's entertaining right like it's more fun seeing both sexes on the court at the same time in my opinion for the fans like me i never thought i'd play with venus wims it's pretty cool yeah wow i went to wimbledon one time did you yeah i was doing a comedy tour over there in england and we went to damn wimbledon i remember walking up and being like i don't fit in here at all i didn't know what we should do i felt like you had to like at least be able to play an instrument or something to get in you know i just felt like you just yeah just ticket that's it yeah i was like damn i don't know the violin or whatever you know what i'm saying it just seemed very you know and i remember saluting people at the ga the game or whatever and the guy's like what are you doing yeah yeah now wimbledon's it's very proper yeah that place hasn't changed in 100 years does y 'all sport feel too proper ever for me i mean well i just i grew up loving basketball like i love nba watch it religiously and when i played tennis i always felt like i was a bit of an out like a misfit right i didn't fit in well so then when i was walking to places like wimbledon i was like this place is it's crazy like it's so against what i like i was watching i love watching basketball entertainment american sport for me in general is like where i fit in i feel very at home in the states oh wow so yeah yeah it's for me it's like being at the library i feel like yeah that's what i mean and i don't like like my personality and the way i am is like not close to how like the traditional sport of tennis is yeah like you know i mean i'm not clean cut at all yeah so it's like i've just been in an environment my whole life that i've kind of wanted to break out of but that's the only thing i'm really fucking good at but that's the only thing you're good at well i'm good at other things but that's where like we all have our right you think you do exactly oh yeah i look at a musician i went and watched a musician play that night i'm like god we went and saw fred again have you seen this guy dj no yeah he's fred again yeah and he was always fred i think but he still is right yep and we saw him and it was great and um and uh yeah i was like god that's so awesome why didn't i try to do that you know and then you have the instruments and the lights and it's a fucking party you know you get out every night that would be tough no don't you think yeah to try and you got to match everyone's energy all night how'd you get into this has anyone ever ask you that in a podcasting yeah just like you like how did it all happen for you well because i feel like there was a time where theovan didn't exist in my life and then now it's all i say is you yeah so what was the journey like oh that's interesting man um well i'd done comedy for a long time right people forget sometimes i think i don't know if they forget they just don't know they don't know when you go on stage you've been going on stage for 18 years yeah even if they only known about you for four years.

34:20Bro, comedy's a tough gig, by the way. You know? I think it's probably similar in some of the sense. I mean, you guys, I couldn't imagine having to do a four-hour set, but at least you get to hit it to the other person and let them deal with it for a minute. Yeah, for a second, yeah. Yeah, just for a second, yeah, yeah. Mother, okay. Oh, yeah, that's true. You really don't get much of a break. Yeah. You're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah. But then when I think social media really got crazy, you know, like, everything was going good with podcasting that really helped because we felt caged up by like the entertainment industry you know it's the same people making the same choices it's a very secular group you know over there and it's like and if you they don't kind of pick you to be the person or something they see or they don't like some of your vision then they don't push you forward but if you tell me that I'm gonna fucking find a way forward yeah that's all that's the only thing i've ever known is i never want to do shit your way anyway yeah so i don't even know what the fuck i was doing here pretending i was that's the saddest part sometimes for me but but you know i don't say that like i don't know i say that i think um some of that's in hindsight at the time yeah you you want to go with you want to try the the path that's there i yeah i was going on podcasts and then i walked out of joe rogan's podcast one day and i was like i just want to just have my own thing yep i just want to have my own thing and thank god that you know there was people like mark maron and um rogan there was a fighter in the kid which was an early podcast with brennan shawb and brian callum like there was just these things uh pete holmes uh there was a lot of pot and it was like a thing and i just started in my kitchen and then and then social media like people other people made clips and that like got things like to a different place like when people started taking stuff and making it just putting it out there yeah yeah because then you're you're you're spreading yeah you're spreading it but you're not doing the spreading yeah so but it's kind of alarming too because you then you can't control the spread that's true that's what i was going to ask you because because i feel like today's day and age with what you say and stuff but i feel like you don't filter anything but you're still saying what you want to say like a lot of people don't i know that i can't say things like sitting with you right now i know that i could be as honest as anything but if i said something slightly controversial it would affect my career drastically if you text it i'll yell it out see that's what i'm saying that's what i i'm kind of jealous in that way because like oh yeah i'm from australia right and i'm already against the eight ball like the media is always against me to create this reputation that like i'm a bad guy whatever it's like what you even do you just wore a high socks dude and fucking threw a tennis racket or some shit but it's like i kind of envy the fact that you can be so honest oh i see well i think if you're already kind of leaning into some of this world with your own voice because that's really what you're doing i think with podcasting i think some people we don't even realize it maybe is that you're just trying to have your own voice right that's a part of it in our psyche i think uh and i don't say that from like a preachy point i said i think from a realization point even for me just now it's like oh i just want to have my own voice so i think if you want to have that then it'll probably be something that you have down the line yeah you know if you're having seeds of it come into your own existence now yeah i feel like people are embracing it a little bit more but still i would like to be a bit more honest yeah some things one day you'll get to man i hope so yeah because i guess it does feel caged up well i think if you work within a network you know we had this guy Trevor Bauer on recently and he's a pitcher and he got maligned in the states for some um sexual allegations right and then he played in Japan and it it came to be there was never any uh any prosecution or anything and one of the people pressing charges or the main person pressing charges it wasn't there wasn't any validity there it was dishonest but they he never really has gotten back on his feet for yeah but the damage is probably done because right the damage was done but also I think he had been somebody who kind of wanted to have their own voice in his sport like he had started he has a YouTube platform and he would comment about things he didn't love about the sport as well so I think that kind of once you're within a bigger group you kind of have to work with the rules of the group you know so who does your stuff so you do like your show, this podcast and then you go to your show tonight who do you answer to or do you just run on your own schedule yeah we just run on our own schedule but yeah but but i don't play professional sport if i also was playing within a true and then you know you probably if you say something then it comes the tennis what's the overall tennis thing called major league tennis it's just called atp like the yeah that's all it is atp they would be like what's going on you know yeah so it probably cages you up some you definitely got to come when i'm coming back you got to come and watch dude that would be sick epic bro yeah because the only one we could get into it, Wimbledon, I think it was Wimbledon.

39:27It could have been a fucking high school match, but we... Somebody said it was Wimbledon. It could have been the Kentucky Derby, actually. When was it? When is Wimbledon? Oh, July? I gotta look back and see. The fact that you don't even remember, that disappoints me. Because my job is when people that are not tennis fans, they come and watch, they actually remember who the fuck is playing. That's what I've been criticized for doing. He's not even playing tennis the traditional way. I'm like Theo Von came to Wimbledon and doesn't even know he played. That should be like a message to the ATP right now.

39:59Like we're doing a terrible job. Yeah. Do they do, is it this that they have a tough time? Like, I guess there's fear of like, if they start to individualize people too much over the sport, then it gives a lot more power to the players themselves. I don't know. I wonder what that's like. Like, yeah, like that. I mean, everyone knows who the players are who bring fans and why ticket sales get sold and all that type of stuff. like everyone knows that yeah and the agp likes to hide the fact that they're they think it's a lot of an equal thing but it's not like the fact that there's a tennis player sitting in your podcast right now like that's pretty cool yeah i think it's cool man this is the first real tennis player i've ever talked to except for my friend's dad who ended up he was kind of an alcoholic to be honest with you but he cheated on their mom but he um played tennis a lot in the mornings i remember and he would um i would catch him at nights and i was looking at porno on the computer but he was uh a good pretty good tennis player i think he was like a three five or a four oh did you is that good what is that three five and a four oh i don't know he's they might have made it up i don't even know i don't know what was going on before i gotta text my buddy uh yeah yeah i've played man tennis is pretty big in the states like obviously not as big as your main sports but there's a lot of a lot of tennis fans out there when we were children we had to play at school yeah and it was you would see wow some people are very yeah like they have on athletic and they oh yeah that's like my thing with tennis you get like the best athletes in the world you put a tennis racket in the head they become uncoordinated really yep have you seen it happen yep a lot of times a lot of times i've seen some basketball players try and play some of our athletes in australia try and play tennis i think because it's non-contact it's easy oh you know yeah it's such a finesse game huh it's finesse very technical yeah what do you like and if you have a bathroom break how long is that well the rules that's where it gets grey cause you can like if you need to take a number two like take a shit you can just be like I need to go straight away and then like the umpire it's all on the umpire's discretion no way so you have like a shit colonel or whatever yeah well like the umpire like an admiral or whatever yeah like an admiral yeah like umpire but like Yeah, if I need to go to the bathroom, I can go change of ends, but it's for like 90 seconds.

42:20No. But then if I need to take... Then how do they know? I could get sick. I could be sick or whatever. I hate having to pee real fast because it burns a little too. I don't know if that's healthy, brother. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That might be a personal thing. I don't think that's healthy. Oh, God, dude. I shouldn't have fucking said that. It doesn't burn all the time. But if you have to hurry and pee, sometimes if somebody's like, hurry up. Yeah, you get stage fright. Or yeah, you just have to pee so fast. yeah if you get stage fright in front of yourself then you're just a fucking weirdo i think i don't get that yeah i don't get that dude um but yeah so you have to how do you do you do you give a guy a little bit of a signal that you have to go to the loo or what do you do you have to tell you have to ask him he's like oh i didn't go to the bathroom your honor can i shit yeah basically like you can't just like get subbed off and go to the bar yeah you have to be like can i go to the bathroom and whatever oh my god so it's very much like the old days in the kingdom yeah yeah like The game in my eye, it's a bit old school.

43:15It's not going to be... If you look where sport's going now and how entertaining it is, especially with all these misfit boxing matches, all this type of stuff like tennis, it's got some work to do. It would be cool if at certain points the net lit up or something and there was a spice round or something. There you go. You know? Yeah, but they like the way it is. But it needs to change. How can it change, though? That's what's interesting, too, is some sports you wonder if they just if he'd like hit the ceiling almost yeah like in a way i mean obviously competition will always want people to be there but you wonder yeah i never thought about that do some sports start to um have they just had their time and existence like bocce ball what is that yeah what is it great question i don't know but i know at one point it was one of the top 11 sports in the whole world when was bocce ball big brother you pull that up tennis i guess it's just because they're i think they're afraid to lose the the lifelong fans that they've had you know what i mean yes and you do need those because you do but then you also how does the sport survive gets you have to like i'm not a big i wasn't a big ufc guy at all and now i like watching it yeah you know what i mean like if they just stayed true to their fighting fans Like I think they've done an amazing job marketing at press conferences.

44:35Tennis has none of that. Like tennis, we don't even have like, if we had a press conference before the match, that would be good. But now we only have post. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It could use something. Yeah. How do you spice it up? But it's kind of, it definitely is challenging because it's like with any brand, it's like, how do you cater to, you know, like we have a, we have some young audience members. I'll be like around, you know, kids, kids, and they're like what the fuck all people say that in front of their parents and the parents are like you can't say what the fuck I'm like I can say it to him and I'm like I don't know this kid if you strip it back like you just you're teaching people to just be yourself and be comfortable in your own skin I think you at the end of the day it's not this is a swear word yeah I think the alarming part is when they say it in front of the parent and then they're like yeah this guy says it and I'm like and then because there's this moment like me and the kid know each other and it's like and the parents looking like how do you know my child like i don't know this fucking kid and then i'll say it again yeah just so the parent knows that i do use the word but yeah and but yeah it's like and then but yeah there's with everything on the internet though i don't think watching you swear is that bad compared to some of the shit that's on there now yeah that's a good point like it's very less of the two evils that's for sure yeah um what did it say when was bocce ball one of the biggest How do you play?

46:00Is it like lawn balls? Yes, it's lawn balls That's still pretty, it's not small now No, no, I agree It's actually hard by the way, I played recently Really? It's a lot harder than I thought it was going to be When we go to the beach, someone brings it usually The sport is very popular on the eastern side of the Adriatic Especially in Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro Bosnia, Montenegro, I'll say that Slovenia Yeah, because people are always going to want to compete But yeah, I wonder what you could do to tennis to make it spice up I think if they're You can't put like cheerleaders That's too much Is it?

46:39What about this? If they had a chick in a box on the sideline And every now and then she just smiled at a play That would be kind of hot What did you say? A chick in a box? Yeah, if you had like a dame I don't know what you guys call them over here But a female Of chest With breasts I don't know how you say it but if you had a female of chest and she was in like a little bit of a cage, maybe I don't want to say. And then like what, and a good shot happened. A good shot happened every now and then she just, she would just smile a wink, you know, just something casual and subtle. So it's respectful, but still just gets a bit more off chest.

47:15Yeah. Just gets a bit more of like a, Oh, look at Olivia. She enjoyed it. Definitely function on a different spectrum, man. I love it. You know what I'm saying? Oh, look chloe enjoyed that like if this one extra little thing to give it some well if it would get you more interested then it'll help yeah if you got to listen see if chloe was interested if she just kept reading her book you know yeah in the little box in the cage or whatever not people know what i'm talking about what else is going on hmm bocce ball yeah bocce ball 10 facts about bocce ball the world's third most popular sport you're lying no because you got to think about all of the elderly like it's low impact they play with their friends bocce ball is the third most popular sport in the world after soccer and golf wow oh there's a lot of like senior beef yeah definitely a lot of people playing for heart pills out there imagine that bro you put your script on the line against mr gordon that's so good heart builds wow george washington built a bocce court at mount vernon in the 1780s so that must have been big then man if if in the 17 if in the president build a bocce court must have been the thing yeah it must have been the thing man um notable bocce players have included the Roman Emperor.

48:41So back then, the ancient Greek physician Hippocrates go the other way, bro. And Galileo. Damn, baby. They had that fucking space baby playing. That's insane. 25 million people in the U.S. alone play bocce. Bro, I think this was written by somebody that plays bocce.

49:06I've only seen it with some senior citizens, you know, and there's a lot of like yeah regulation bocce courts are 91 feet long by 13 feet long and variations are acceptable if foul lines mid court lines and inbound markers are designated um huh do you uh what do you guys think of with paddle ball coming on is that a fucking like a lot is that does that feel alarming to you guys with paddle ball coming on or it's whatever well pickleball's huge too pickleball that's what I mean that's going crazy yeah I'm a part owner in one of the teams. Oh, you are? Yeah, in Miami. Now, is that a bad look? Well, I don't think so.

49:45I mean, like, I love, I love just people, sport in general for me, like, getting people active and stuff is good. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, it's not a bad look. Yeah, I mean, like, look, I think tennis will always be tennis. Like, it's very different. Like, tennis is way harder, but there's been a couple of people that, like, one of my friends, one of my best friends played professional tennis, and now he's, like, he plays professional pickleball. Really? Yeah, and it's, like, it's good. like my homes is like he's the same team owner as me as well in in miami so it's cool like a lot of big guys are getting involved in it it's pretty good huh yeah and now what do you as a part owner do you have responsibilities in the team or what do you we have team meetings every now and then like i don't not i don't do much for them apart from you know be a part of their like i guess marketing and all that type of stuff but we do have team meetings and one time i wasn't really happy with my team um and i told him to get a new team so we could start winning yeah yeah it's fun it's fun like it's i reckon you'd be good at this to be honest i played it two times oh you have played it yeah but one time um we didn't bring any sunscreen so you got burnt i got yeah i don't know what happened to me but i've definitely i left part of me out there on the field baby it's fun it's growing too it's huge in the states it's growing and it's also there's a big gay contingency in the states it's playing as well can you look that up gay pickleball it's huge in the states what like like just the gay pickleball well yeah because i think it's just the attire and the kind of pitter-patter close to the you know the bat it's like pickleball is personally and financially welcoming for gay players told you there's no way you're gonna get four people that close together in little shorts you are batting something around and the gay dudes aren't going to get excited bro it's a gay people can play whatever they want and they're doing it right here it says bring up a couple of uh bring up a gay pickleball player seize the top you're telling me this click on that image go back one one please brother click on this image right here you're telling me huh that's a girl yeah but you can barely tell it is, dude.

52:01You're telling me every gay male in America doesn't see this and be like, get me an Uber over there right now. This is everything they want, man. It's competitive. It's outdoorsy. Yeah, there he is right here. There's a player right here. Out player Zach Taylor. Zoom in on him. Can we get a better picture of him? Come on. This is definitely, this is the... Oh my gosh. this is the um this is everything this is everything you want to zoom in on his shorts or what we'll just get him i'm just seeing or just look up a better picture of him this guy's over here this pervert over here i can zoom in on the guy sorry i know i told you to but still just because somebody tells you to be a pervert doesn't mean you should you know but no i'm joking man you're a great guy and i think we uh but yeah let's i just want to see because i'm sure there's a gay uh pickleball phenom phenoms because it's a perfect sport just curious

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