E491 Kid Rock

33:02and you could do even better. So that was one thing that Tyler Perry did. And I thought that was, what a great idea because people don't know. So just my little neighborhood here in Whites Creek, Tennessee, there's a Walmart right by me. That's my go-to. Walmart and the Lowe's right there. You know, they're just conveniently located. And if I can't get it at Walmart and Lowe's, I probably don't need it. So yeah, I had somebody go over there and I was like, it was kind of a little bit of a nail biter. And it wasn't about the money. It's just, but you don't know what it's going to be. It's at Christmas time.

33:29I'm like, go find out right now what they owe on their layaways. Wow. And you're like, is that going to be like 300 grand? Is it going to be, you know, 10 grand? It was like 85 grand. Okay. So that was cool because I live in the neighborhood too. So I just put a little, I had them put a little card in there that just said, you know, Merry Christmas from your neighbor, Kid Rock. Oh. So people's layaways are paid and people were, you know, excited about it and felt great. And it was something, you know, you can't write that off. Like you can, if you give to another 501 C3. Right. This is just straight cash.

33:56So to give that 80 away, I had to generate 160. Yeah. So it's not like the most charity stuff, but man, it was a great feeling. I was proud of that one. Yeah, that's an awesome story. Randy Gerber, one of my best friends, Cindy Crawford, they did it at a place like in Compton or something. And I think there was an NFL coach who did it somewhere else. So what Tyler Perry started kind of caught on that year and helped a lot of people out. And I think this was kind of during the recession. Oh, nice. Oh, that's a great story, man. Yeah, I'd heard something like that. I was curious about it. of course next year everybody was fucked because you know everyone's at Walmart like I bet Kid Rock's coming up here pay off our shit like oh he didn't show up that year people are putting aquariums guns candy apples new tires for the truck oh yeah whatever dude that's great bro yeah washer and dryers on fucking layaway um what else was I thinking about dude you have um So I met your brother.

34:56Your brother, tell me that. This story is fascinating to me, dude. This story, because your brother lost a limb. And how did it happen when y 'all were kids? He was seven years old. I was four. And we were riding up on my dad's brush hog, God rest his soul. And we were coming up the hill and it started raining a little bit. And he was trying to cut some grass on the way up the hill. And I don't know. I can't remember so young. Were we fucking around a little bit like grabbing at apples or something? but he slipped off, fell underneath, and that just took his leg right off. It was a conundrum. But I was so young, and he was so young.

35:32It's like basically we grew up not really – I don't ever remember him really with two legs. And he can do anything. The fucker golfs. Oh, yeah. On one leg with no like – he just drops his crutches, his balance. That's the first thing Trump says to me every time I see him or talk to him, which is a lot. He's like, oh, your fucking brother hit the greatest shot. We're out first time of golfing with Trump. I take my brother and my dad and he's president. So it's like, it's a shit show and it's a little nerve wracking, you know, this is before we became really good friends, you know, and you're like, this is a shit show, but it's, it's fun.

36:03Your brother's out there. Yeah. With one leg. And Trump goes, what happened to your brother? And I told him the story. I go, you should see him hit a golf ball. I go, this is a lot of pressure too. So Trump goes, Billy, come hit a ball. My fucking brother, he's probably stoned. He goes and grabs Trump's driver without even asking him, grabs it. Gets over there, smokes it down the fairway like 220. And Trump's like, I want to change partners. I want Billy. Dude, yeah, he looks like that lamp from Christmas Story kind of. And I know Billy, and I'm only - We call him hopping around. I wrote a rap song about him.

36:40Bro, his attitude is, he's fucking hilarious, dude. And he can get so much higher, I think, because he smokes pot, right? Oh, you know, he hasn't smoked in like three months, he said. I'm a good fan. He was hitting his little thing. We were at my dad's service down in Florida. He passed away in February over the weekend. And he's always joking, like, you know, I'll always have him drive. We were having some beers when we put my dad's ashes in a tomb blessing. You know, me and my dad like to drink beer. So took some beers over there. So I was having some beers there, saying goodbye. My brother's going to drive because marijuana doesn't affect him.

37:12That's what he always says, right? And then he does dumb shit, and I'm always like, marijuana doesn't affect me. sure enough he's backing up the truck we're getting out of the cemetery and um our some of our in-laws my sister's in-laws uh parents fucking backs right into their truck i'm like marijuana doesn't affect me oh boy well and it's less there's less of your body to like disperse the dope too i think if you have her missing a whole limb yeah and he's actually got himself really in shape now i've been on this crazy health kick for the last several years you have been yeah doing all the stuff like you know the dana and brecca i've recommended but i know a lot of people and i've really i'll take you through it because i'd love to actually tell that to people who might be watching this enjoy what i do really it's something positive i could do for once because i kind of mentioned on joe rogan i was like you know for people like what i do are in and around my age especially like it's fucking time everyone it's time to get our shit together get healthy like you know you can't just run around doing what i was doing for the last 20 years forever and expect not expect some major consequences yeah you can't be getting yeah scoring eight balls at a fud ruckers and just expect expect things to fucking continue to prosper oh scoring eight balls at fud ruckers i need that t-shirt wear that when did you because you stopped doing drugs i know yeah that was that was a while back i don't really like to get into that too much um but that probably had something to do with part i mean that'll lead because if you're not partying then at least you're more there's more of way better of opportunity to be able to like oh absolutely and i started picking my battles more wisely when i'm having my beers and when i'm sipping a little whiskey i try not to sip whiskey out in public because that could that's a 50 50 right there you don't know which kid rock you're gonna get um yeah but so i so yeah tell me about it man so you went you've just listen to this routine i know mark mark mark wahlberg put out his routine famously about what he does and i'm kind of on something similar so i'm up very early like between 3 30 and 4 a.m 5 4 30 at the latest really that's a lot of animals are up then yeah marsupials i think and this is when i don't have shows and it's weird now playing shows because you go out west and i'm like oh my god i've been in bed for like but i only sleep about five hours i don't for so i take a nap every day most most days so i i'm up that early i love that morning i get whether i'm writing songs or going through emails business my mind's so fresh nobody's up messing with me i just got that time to myself my coffee and cigar going i'm jamming away i don't care whether it's you know first thing i do is make my bed clean up my closet like i'm an organized freak i read out about 6 15 i'll do a 13 minute ab workout and stretch seven o 'clock my pickleball partner shows up we play singles pickleball which is high level cardio could be 45 minutes to an hour depending on how the games go 8 15 uh circuit train in the gym click the sauna on circuit train do 25 15 10 increasing weight um after that um red light therapy bed to 10 or 15 minutes after that got a bike in the sauna ride the bike for 10 minutes just to get an extra good sweat going steam shower cleanup jump in the cold tub at 44 degrees for five minutes and then i feel like fucking gold and it's working.

40:30I've made my band like a, I kind of made them a promise this year. Not that they asked, but I was like, these shows this year, I'm like, I'm going to have my shirt off for Ball with the Ball. You watch. They're like, you drink too much beer to do that. I'm like, trust me. I've been working my ass off. Wow. So Lamar Dixon, so in Gonzalez, the shirt's coming off. The shirt's coming off. Let's go. You want to see grandpa? You want to see grandpa getting after it? Shit's going down. Fuck yeah, dude. I had them fucking 50-year-old plus women fucking losing their minds. Oh, there'll be a lot of women out there with the exact same body as you, I bet.

41:03No. You don't think? No. I'm not kidding, and these are the greatest fans on earth. I sell more extra large women's men's shirts to women than anybody on the planet. These are bigger girls, and you know what? They got fucking jobs. They got fucking money, and they love the fucking party. They got, yes, and they love to take their shirts off. God. Some of them probably shouldn't. But either way, we appreciate the fucking effort every time, man. Dude, I remember, yeah, well, one of the things when I was a child, one of the most beautiful things at Mardi Gras was seeing all the tits, and they weren't a lot of these fancy store-bought tits.

41:43These were real fucking American bisquick fucking chest monkeys. You know what I'm saying? Like the kind of tit. Cornbread titties. Oh, the kind of tit, dude, that'll look over this way for some ketchup. Like, they had some fucking real just scare bears on them, you know? Just a fucking tit. You could just curl up under it and take a nap. Just a fucking real tit, motherfucker. That's what I should start doing for my naps. I usually just put on some Bob Ross or somebody with a soothing voice and kick back. Bro, get you a big tit out the crowd. But at Mardi Gras, you'd be able to see those tits as a kid because— I was the king of Endymion.

42:19Were you really? Yeah, years back. Got to ride that float around. But worst idea is like, so you're riding this floater on the afternoon having a blast. Yeah. You're obviously drinking, carrying on, you know? But then I was scheduled to play at like 1 a.m. in the Superdome. So I just fucking, I don't think the show is worth a shit. It was because I was like, I was drunk. Yeah. And then I tried to take a nap. God, I got drunk again. I'm like, yeah, this is just, I've just got to go fucking hiccup. I just got to go try to, got to limp through it. I'm out in a slow hill. I can't rock. Yeah, what's the most lit you've ever been on a stage, you think?

43:04It wasn't lit. I've never drank before shows. Really? These days, I don't drink like two or three days before shows. I take that very fucking seriously. Yeah, because I heard your live show is amazing, man. I've never been to one. I can't believe that. Maybe I'll come to the Gonzalez one. What, do you live in a cave? Or maybe I have been to one. Come on. Yeah, come to Gonzales. Your sister's going to be there. Yeah. Oh, you could probably fly it out with me. Dude, if you're leaving on that Saturday, I could. Yeah, I'm going to go in that Saturday. Probably, I usually just, I'm right out after the shows.

43:36But since I got nothing, I'll hang for an hour or two after, have some fun. Bro, that'd be so cool. Come with me. We'll lock your sister up, man. We'll have a good time. Dude, no, she's got a boyfriend or whatever. But we'll definitely, you can hang out with her or whatever. I mean, you're not, you could. I'm good. Okay. You know, Audrey. Oh, yeah. I'm good. Oh, I thought you said, well, fuck your sister. And I was like. That'd be like me and you fucking your sister. I'm out, dude. I'll wait outside the door. What do I need to promote? The last album release that I had, the only number one record I had is when I went to jail for fighting at the Waffle House.

44:08And I'm getting out of jail the next day. It's all over the news. And they're like, his new album came out today. I'm like, this is the greatest promo I've ever come up with on accident. And I go, if I knew all I had to do is just go punch somebody at Waffle House, come out of jail the day the record comes out, I'm like, I didn't have to do any interviews. I had a number one album. I'm like, fuck, let's start doing that shit. We'll do it next album. Just bang your sister together. Look, I don't think I want to do it. Okay? Well, I know her so well. All the shit I've helped you out with, you know, career-wise, giving you advice.

44:37You could slide some dap back. That's a good point. Let me text. I'll text her after this. here's the crazy part we could film it at the show and then not release it until the record drops just so we got it in the bank here's the thing it also depends on which one of my sisters too but no she would that'd be so great though we could do it in a more acceptable fashion because I know that could be weird especially you being from the south and everything what about if you banged my sister and I banged your sister. Okay. That would be probably more acceptable. Yeah, I think that's the least we could do for each other.

45:19All right, we'll figure it out. Yeah. I'm glad we got that out of the way. Yeah, God. I've been sweating like, how am I going to promote the next album? Like, boom. Did you, yeah, what was that fight like at the Woff House? Was it a good fight or no? You know, the court thing's been settled and everything. And, you know, I'm very careful about talking about that stuff. I don't even, I didn't even know that it happened. When people pop back up, you know, you're like, I haven't done interviews, real interviews in probably 10 years. I just hadn't had enough of them. And so now I'm getting back into the swing, you know, doing a few here and there.

45:52I finally like succumbed to the podcast world. And yeah, thanks. And I hate, you know, in the past, I've brought things up. Like that have happened. Like, boom, you get sued again. Oh, damn. I just said something wrong. So I kind of. I didn't think about that. It's on TMZ. You can see a little bit of it. What, yeah. Yeah, were shows moving the needle for late night shows? Yeah, did you kind of take a break? Because, yeah, I remember when I first met you, I remember talking to you about the podcast. You're like, I don't, you know, you said maybe one day I'm going to do, I might do one with Tucker sometime soon, and then maybe sometime after that.

46:28I did that to promote my last album and tour. That was my last big tour that I did for The Unforeseen Future. Yeah, that was last year, right? It was a couple years ago, two or three. maybe three I can't remember I did like 30 shows and put an album out but all I did was that thing with Tucker I sold out the whole tour and like for where I'm at without promoting records like I don't go do the radio any of that stuff anymore I just kind of put them out for people that dig what I do and for myself love to make music that's what I do so I was like fuck that sold out the whole tour I was like and it became years ago when the internet started coming because remember I came up without all this shit yeah same man Without cell phones and stuff, whenever I was getting my groove on and starting to make money and being successful, and everything had turned into a gotcha moment.

47:12And there's nobody like gotcha to get better than fucking me. Yeah. Because I'm a fucking idiot. You ask me a question, I'll just start fucking diarrhea of the mouth all day long. Yeah, yeah. So everything would be like, oh, it's like nothing about music. Like all of us just like, oh, Kid Rock, this dumbass said this or talk shit about so-and-so, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I'm done with it. I fucking don't need the headache. Yeah. and um i'm kind of getting back into it yeah just because i have these shows to promote that i have a vested interest in i you know own half the rodeo like i really want to see these be successful so so wait so the ones that are on this tour coming up with the you and jason aldean tour that that will be um the rodeo is attached to that no that's separate but it's still like you know i've i've i have an ownership in these festivals right perpetuity so if we make these successful and you know several years down the line if i'm not playing all of them if it just becomes its own brand rock the country then i get to be just involved in the background of trying to put good experiences and good music together for other people and that kind of interests me more at this point you know if i just wanted to make a dollar i can just go out and book a tour i've been very blessed you know with hard work number one a work ethic that nobody's fucking with me work wise and then you know have for people like what i do it's you know it's it's a show it's an entertainment show show show and you'll see that um but now i'm more interested in trying to create something, whether it's, you know, something that you have ownership or legacy, legacy things from my son or my grandchildren or things like that, that, and it's a lot more work, but it's more interesting.

48:43It gets me out of bed wanting to like, you know, just do better and kick ass that day. Yeah. I like that, man. A new challenge. Yeah. It's like more challenging. How can I figure this out? And also restoring some tradition. Like we've let go of a lot of tradition. Like the media has beaten down a lot of American tradition, especially in the past five years. um and there's a big portion of this country that's underserved as you know this is why duck dynasty and yellowstone are so huge things of that nature like there's this call them conservatives whatever you want maybe middle of the road right leaning who just don't have like i'm like every time i get into a series you know i don't watch a ton of tv probably watch a little too much fox news and i should but i don't watch a ton of tv i kind of would rather spend my time doing more productive things but i like to unwind and shut my computer down for an hour at the end of the night and it's like and i don't care if there's somebody gay somebody trans like if it makes sense to be in a show yeah it's like every fucking one of these things you put on it's like comes the trans person i'm like for what are they like the greatest actor okay great i'm like no no it's just so they're you know so they have that fuck off hollywood has their stupid balance of bullshit or whatever they're trying to do i'm like you just don't have to like insert it fucking everywhere well and it just they don't they think it's not obvious to people but then also like Oh, I'm like Click.

50:00I know. There's only 8 ,000 things you could stream. Like, okay, we don't have to watch Alexander the Great with two dudes getting down. Well, maybe that would make sense because I think that dude was gay or something. That might make sense, actually. Maybe that's the storyline. Okay, boom. That makes sense. Yeah, but I think also if you were living in a castle or something, you would... Dude, I designed a castle. Your own. I was going to build one, like a small, more of a guest type house, like four floors. But I love architecture and interior design and all that shit. Really? I designed a castle.

50:38I'll show it to you sometime. When did you realize that you loved business as much? Because it's interesting because there's one thing to be an entertainer, right? To have that ability and to be blessed with the opportunity to entertain people. Absolutely. That's rare. But then like, when did you kind of switch that? Like, were you always in the business mindset or did that sort of switch at some point? Or did that become like an added thing? Like, okay, I can also be a businessman. Does that make sense? Kind of had to be one. You know, it was in my blood more than most from my dad being a success.

51:17He was, you know, put himself through Michigan State College and graduated top of his business class, you know, and then started one of the top 50 Lincoln Mercury dealerships in the country which i'm extremely proud of yeah i love to see these motherfuckers online like oh he was a rich kid i'm like yeah it's fucking awesome yeah it's fucking it was awesome i wouldn't call ourselves rich we were you know upper end of middle class because now i've seen what rich really is and we weren't but we were better than most and you know it was great and i will never apologize that to fucking anybody it's an american dream i had two great fucking parents that worked their asses off and yes we had a pool and fucking horses and shit like that yeah and i had to cut the grass and I worked my ass off.

51:57Like, but I think I had it in my blood for my dad, number one, and had great him and uncles, people around me, but it was, I had to be good at business because I was never the most talented guy in the room. I was not the greatest singer. I was not the greatest player. I was always one of the best DJs, things like that. But I knew how to put it all together, but I had to be shrewd in marketing and things like this. And I had to really work harder at these talents to be, you know, to be able to get my hand in the cookie jar of the upper, the upper scale of talent, the upper end of talent wise, you know, which, which I've gotten there.

52:29Some would, you know, arguably gotten there. It depends who you ask. So, you know, it was kind of out of necessity, but, and it's very interesting too, to dig in. And, you know, sometimes it's, it's like the music business, the actual record part, like that is just a, uh, bummer. It's like, it's the most dirty fucking business. The porn industry is more straight up than the music business. it is the dirtiest fucking business on the planet and that can be quite upsetting and a turnoff when you're in that world dealing with it i've seen behind you know i've seen the wizard i know what he looks like you know so um and with with like when you say something like that like with the music like was there ever stuff where you recorded that you couldn't release i know that happens to a lot of my friends no there were certain things i had to change like early on with like samples sampling people.

53:21Like when I put my first album out with Jive when I was 18 years old, you know, that Too Short produced a few songs and D-Nice and Chuck Nice from Three Times Dope and I used every crazy sound, like shattered the Rolling Stones. They were like, and I'm rapping. I'm pretty much like rapping, like suck my dick and like five times every song on the album. Like there's nothing clear about this record at all. Well, you needed a blowjob. What do you, you know? I was 18. Oh, dude. Yeah. Dirty and Gangster Rap was the thing and I wanted to be in the middle of it. But, you know, so there was a lot of samples like Jim Croce.

53:52They were like, you're not using Jim Croce. We're rapping on dirty songs. So things like that. But no, there hasn't been. I mean, I've made a lot of songs, so it's hard to think through them all on the spot. What was it? Your dad passed away not long ago, man. I'm sorry. Thank you. February 15th. What kind of guy was he? He was awesome. He was a character, man. Was he? Hard-working, patriotic son of a bitch, like love to drink beer, work hard. And, you know, as he'd say, he said, we'll drink a case of beer on Friday, and that's just getting warm for Saturday. You know, but he loved music, rock and roll, and a lot of country shit.

54:29But he was great. Of course, we butted heads when I was young because he had no, he was like, what the fuck is this kid doing? I'm the only one who didn't go to college. Didn't want anything to do with his business. And you look like the complete opposite of college, too. Yeah, exactly. But I'm basically running around the hood, you know, my turntable's DJing and rapping and breakdancing and all this shit. And it was like, you know, you could ask him if he was still here. My mom would tell you, he's like, we weren't worried about Bobby. Like we're going to have to take care of him the rest of his life.

54:57And you think they'd be worried about the guy with one leg. Right. No, no. Yeah, exactly. But then they're like, fuck dude, this guy needs to lose a leg too. Yeah. He needs to lose them both. Probably take an arm with them too. Wow, man. Did they, where at first did they, at what point did they kind of tilt? Because I'm sure. You know what point? When I made money. Is that it? Yeah. But then he was so proud of me. Like he came to some of my last shows in Detroit last year. I bought him this fucking pink Versace short set. Fucking like four or five grand. I can show you some pictures. With this shirt and the shorts.

55:34Yeah. And he kind of had a wheelchair. He knows cancer was getting bad and stuff, but he wouldn't miss the show. So I had one of my hats on. He's got a big, I got him a thick dookie gold rope chain. and everybody wanted to have their picture with him and shit. It was quite a send off, that last show. That's awesome, man. It was great. He was so proud of me. All his children and his grandchildren. My son and him were like... Really close? My son leaned on him for so much advice. Now he's kicking ass working for this company, Kraken, and also do a little side hustle with our Happy Dad guys. Oh, is he?

56:10Yeah. He's got a little side thing with them. your son is one of the nicest guys. That's probably, probably the, uh, thing that, that you could say to me that I'm most proud of right there. He really is. Everything I've done and everything I've been people, when they say that, and it happens often for people that know him, that's, that's the top of the food chain for me and accolades. Yeah. He's, um, well, one thing that he does, I don't know why I made any fucking, um, what he always will send me messages to say, like, congratulations or just a heart, just something like to let you know that he's paying attention, that he cares, you know?

56:45He's a thoughtful guy. He is. He is. It must skip a generation. It's what my friends always joke. Like, how did you get such a great, hardworking young man? Yeah, dude. Robbie is cool, bro. Yeah, he's the best. And you guys have two grandchildren from him now? Do you have other grandchildren too? No, just two from him. I got my granddaughter who's a Christmas baby. She was born at Christmas. this guy she got her a little keyboard for christmas like last year i got a red rider bb gun and a little drum machine like it started on and she loves i got her piano lessons too signed her up found a found a good teacher um and she loves it loves it wow i'm really excited about that my grandson's still just you know shitting his diaper and you know tearing stuff tearing stuff up he's wanting one and oh yeah so he's still listening to some of your early stuff Now, this is the funniest shit on earth right here.

57:35Okay, look. There's my grandson, right? The same. So my son's mother's black, right? Uh-huh. And so my son married an Italian girl. So the kids are like a quarter black. So if you see my granddaughter, I'm sure he has posted pictures of her on there. Or maybe there's a picture. My granddaughter is just beautiful. Just looks like Halle Berry. He's got that nice skin tone, you know? Oh, yeah. My grandson looks like fucking Hitler. He just came out completely white. Fucking blue eyes. Fucking genetics, man. You never know how it's going to work. Oh, that's cool, man. Yeah, there's my granddaughter.

58:08It's just funny. You never know how genetics are going to work. I say Hitler, obviously. I'm fucking joking, but it's kind of funny. Oh, of course. Yeah, whatever, dude. The people are so stupid. But you know, some fucking MSNBC will run with some headline, Kid Rock calls his grandson Hitler. I'm like, fuck off. We had Roseanne Barr on, and we got in trouble. She's fucking great, isn't she? Love her. I mean, I haven't seen her or talked to her in years, but we've spent a little time together a few years. I was saying to somebody. Entertaining. I have no interest in television at all. Zero. I was like, I would have to look at that hard.

58:44I wish Roseanne would do a new show and just get everybody that's kind of been in that cancel culture thing, whether they've been canceled or not, everyone that's gotten their radar like me or whoever, the guy from Seinfeld or messed up, said the N-word. Get all these fucking people together and just create the greatest comedy sketch show. you know like well a rosanna or something like that just do something like that like get them all together yeah i was like i would take a hard look at you know maybe not doing everything but you pop maybe i'm like you know the garbage man that comes like yeah i'm the trans neighbor even better that's genius i don't think i have the acting chops for it though i bet you could though no it's like when i did joe dirt you know our buddy spade i'm like dude i really don't want i didn't know him but i'm like get him on the phone was like dude what i go i don't really want to act.

59:32I go, have you seen me? I look like fucking Brad armpit. I'm like, and he goes, dude, it's like you play a dirt bag. Who's like super mean to me. And he goes, it's not like a stretch roll. I'm like, you dick. Dude, you guys play golf a lot, right? Yeah. We've been buddies ever since Joe Dirt. He's a, he's one of those. I don't think he can tell too many people in Hollywood. As he says, he goes, dude, you're like Hollywood's kryptonite. I'm fucking proud of that too. Yeah, dude. You're my mother's absolute favorite dude, just because this is why. She's probably never heard any of your music, but because you say what you want to say.

1:00:12That's what she always says. I hear that quite often. Actually, Grandparents Day this year, my granddaughter's school, which by the way, is the greatest thing ever. What? I go into school? Well, no, Grandparents Day. Oh. That's where the grandparents come, we're special friends. And you showed up? I go every year. Oh, geez. Oh, yeah. But this is the best part. So I walk into the arena for the ceremony first. Wynonna Judd singing. No way. Got her guitar. Like one of my favorites. I love Wynonna. So she's singing. I'm like, oh, this is like unbelievable. And then we're walking around. The funny part was visiting her classrooms.

1:00:46Your classroom teacher showed me different things around the school. And like the whole time, like a lot of other granddads are coming up and they're like, keep giving them hell rock. Yeah. He's like, we love what you stand for. Trump. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, it happens quite a bit that afternoon. And we come out and I'm going to take my granddaughter to lunch after. She's like, you got a lot of friends. You got a lot of fans here, Papa. And I'm like, oh, she's paying attention. Well, the thing is there's so many people, I think, for years also were afraid of losing their jobs, especially in Hollywood.

1:01:17If they said anything that was openly conservative. you know Hollywood gets this carte blanche or has over the years to make fun of uh like the only person they would make fun of is white males mostly and so I think that's where they lost a lot of people that's where they like started to ruin comedy oh they now it's kind of coming like people have had enough of it whether you're liberal conservative whatever I think the majority of just common sense thinking people are like yeah this has gone too far yeah like when you can't joke about anything because we've talked about it with you yeah you know you've been like and you know me remember i'm like i drew a line i go like here's the line for you in comedy and i'm like and you're kind of standing right behind it right on the edge i go i would employ you to fucking jump about three feet past the line like just say what's funny and if people can't handle it fuck them yeah and i really didn't change i've been i came out with little fingers on my cds like running my mouth it's like i always say and i sound redundant probably but i haven't changed The times have changed.

1:02:21Yeah. I've been doing the same thing since day one. Dude, you know what? I think that's really true about you. Because sometimes I think some things you say, I'm like, it seems like the, sometimes I'll be like, that seems kind of outdated. But the truth is just the times have changed. And there's probably things I maybe don't want to get blackout drunk and say at 53 years old anymore. Like, you know, like fucking act your age sometimes. But I'm like, eh, I like to have a good time too. And like, and you know, there's, there's several times and it's all out there for the taking. Yeah, I'm fucked up.

1:02:53I probably should be on the honky tonk with fucking microphone, but I really don't give a shit to some people. It's probably interesting and fun. It's, you know, and it's not that I don't mean to say it. It's maybe that I shouldn't have. I don't know. Well, we've changed. It has changed over time though. It's changed to like what people, I mean, the same people own so much of the industry that it's like the same companies and everything that it's like you, people have just been, afraid to speak up well their social standings it could be their social standings it could be their jobs and careers yeah and you know i've talked to a lot of the younger especially in this town country acts things like this who are being successful coming up and you know if we get in talking about i'm like look i wouldn't employ that you get into anything that i do or you know like you know you need to like you know i'm not i've always said i don't give a shit about awards at any level i was like i don't need those fucking accolades i don't want them i'm not willing to play the politics or put the penises in my mouth to get them.

1:03:49Yeah. I've tickled some balls through the ears, but I'm not certain penis and mouth. But is that gay or is that just making sure, you know. It's to try and get an award. You know, I don't think that's gay. Either way, no penises in my mouth, period. That's fair. So, but I tell these younger kids, you know, seriously, I'm like, you know, I would advise not staying out of it. You know, but don't go around at the same time acting like, because there's a lot of these country guys too, who are like, you know, I'm a badass. I say what the fuck I want. And I'm like, no, you don't. You absolutely do not.

1:04:17And it's very apparent. So you might not want to act, you know, run around and tell you like, no, I do what the fuck I want. And it's like, no, you don't. No, you don't. I know. And I'm not employing them to do that. Right. I'm like, but don't act like it's the same time. You know, I'm just, I'm not acting like anything. Yeah. There's a Kid Rock and there's a Bob Ritchie, but they're the same people. It's just, you know, I'm sure you didn't want to talk to fucking Bob Ritchie today. That's boring as shit. I'm like, you want to talk to Kid Rock? Yeah. Yeah. But I don't, I think you always seem kind of like the same person to me.

1:04:49But also do you feel like at your level, once you have a certain level of money and you know you're going to be okay, it is easier to say what you want? Absolutely. Yeah. but you also become a bigger target you know for people who want would like to take things away from me at some level you know because i pissed them off or said something they don't agree with or said something very harsh that maybe i shouldn't have yeah but i never cared i was talking cash money shit since i was broke when i was young yeah i've talked cash money shit i probably came out of the womb talking cash money shit yeah and they're like it's a boy it's a girl it's somebody talking shit.

1:05:28That's all we know. It's a shit talking. It's a shit talker with two legs. Yeah, dude. It's America's favorite dirt surfing over here. They just had that law that passed here that I thought was really cool. Can you see? Oh, you got it. Luke Bryan praises Tennessee Act for protecting artists from being exploited by AI. This is pretty fascinating. I agree. But I'm also not sure I'm against it yet. I'm like so you're telling me some kid can AI my voice and like potentially make hit records and I don't got to do shit I'm like I'm in but can you get any royalties from it though that's where I think it would get tricky using nothing more than a few I don't give a shit why?

1:06:12because if I can go play that song and somebody else comes up with live money's at the gate oh I see what you're saying right like that guy can't go unless he's a DJ then he could take the song somewhere but he couldn't actually go and do a live performance. They can play live if they want, but they're not going to be able to do as good as me. Right. You can go watch the cover Kid Rock Band all you want. Yeah. You think it's going to be? Well, it's also, hold on. There's a Theo Vaughn, you know, lookalike that's working the Vegas trip or something. You think that kid's going to be as funny as you?

1:06:39That's true. But also the Kid Rock cover band guy is also just some guy who's been experimenting with probably methamphetamine, to be honest. Absolutely. Using nothing more than a few sentences, AI can produce a full song, an entire movie, or even art. While some enjoy the opportunities AI allows, Luke Bryan recently praised Tennessee for passing new legislation surrounding the technology. Dude, I would employ everyone, and I don't know if I should put this out there, but it's probably, I don't think I'm the first person to come up with this, but I think I'm one of the first ones. I was sitting around the other day messing with AI, and I just started typing in like, design me create me an image of kid rock with a gold gun in front of mount rushmore with an american flag and a bald eagle and it pops up this thing and i'm like make it look more like kid rock and i'm like there's a merch shirt i can sell the shit out of that merchandise i sent to a couple people and they're like dude my wife loves it like and i'm like yeah like my wife just left me and they're like wow but i'm like think about merch capabilities so i can just use my mind rather than have a graphics designer sit there right you know i have to go through that process which i've done for years now i can just kind of even if i get it close then i can take it to someone and like okay let's touch this something this but just for creating merch ideas i'm like this is and you were able to just do that yeah wow yeah you just go to ai and start typing in cool shit things you think and you're like oh my god like my buddy did one it's funny he goes make one of he was sitting there before Pickleball he's in tech and he's like make one of Kid Rock like like he's the king of Bud Light with him make it as Americana as you can like and he's like a superhero and this thing comes out and you're like that's fucking funny it's fucking funny you have to send me the images man you got them well I better got them right yeah this is the one I just explained to you I mean that's not good oh my god bro That's a t-shirt.

1:08:42Dude, that's crazy. This looked like Travis Tritt's wet dream, dude. Really. This looked like definitely something. I love Travis Tritt. Yeah. That even looks like Tristan Tritt a little bit too. I'm nowhere near that good looking, but it's a cartoon and I'll sell it. You made this? Yes. In about a minute and a half. Wow. that's crazy man everyone else you'll see it you'll see it on sale uh first week in april in gonzalez louisiana uh i'm gonna go man i'm gonna go i don't have anything to do that weekend so i'm gonna go um excited about protecting got a special guest introducing me at that show too that'd be me damn oh i know oh do you have somebody coming gots oh damn i put it me i think the crowd's gonna be pretty excited um because there's different people that are on the tour i think i saw miranda lambert yes it's it's you know they're different shows in different cities but there's a lineup friday and saturday me and some of them me and al dean flip-flop who's playing friday who's playing saturday it didn't matter to me but yeah everyone from hank jr leonard skinner miranda lambert brantley gilbert travis tritt like big and rich with gretchen wilson like and a cast of other other people and it just depends you know people just need to go to rock the country.com because my buddy sent me trace sent me the other day you know our friend And Trace sent me this thing and he's like, dude, these tickets are misleading.

1:10:07Because it was saying like me and Hank and Jason were on both nights. And I'm like, fuck, I don't want that out there. So I sent it to my partner's premier entertainment. I'm like, hey, this is no good. And he gets me back. He goes, we're on it. Because I don't want to mislead people ever. And boom, it was on StubHub. It's like a secondary ticket market. Oh, so they're lying over there. Basically scalping tickets. And if you go to those sites to buy them, like God bless you. but they're responsible for any of that shit. You go to rock to country.com and get the tickets for where we're trying to sell them.

1:10:38And it has all the correct info. I just like people to be aware of that. When you're going on these secondary sites, you got to be aware of misinformation on anything. Yeah. People will send me links. They're like, this ticket's$210. I'm like, bro, I've never heard of that site. And if you go to this other site and sometimes I'll try and find it for him, you know, it's$70. Okay. Address this other thing that I've been wanting to put out there in the public and try to figure out a way to do it with. and it's been happening to a lot of people. I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened to you. These women sending money to fake Kid Rocks call them.

1:11:11This, that, and the other. And I've had, I can't tell you how many. Like either reach out, we had several of them. One lady showed up at my gate in a U-Haul truck with her dog, had sold her house and given her life savings of like$30 ,000 to some troll. On the internet saying I could, I would want it to be with her. But here's how they do it. It's pretty genius. They say like, you know, me and Audrey, my fiance, we've been there for 17 years. So these bad actors get these people to respond. And then they say, listen, you know, I want to get to know you better. And then they get them like kind of on the hook.

1:11:43Then they say, well, I'm getting divorced from Audrey and my money's tied up. So if you could just send me a little money to tie me over that time, then we can be together. And I know Kenny Chesney said it's happened to him. Even Uncle Cracker, it's happened to him. It's out there. It's like people do not send fucking money over the internet to anybody. and then when they show up there I'm like there's nothing you can say if you were that naive to send fucking money to somebody like you think I'm on the internet asking people for money by the way all you have to do is look and it's a fake website like at that point there's no conversation to have I just feel bad for them what did you say when the lady showed up did you have any pets my security handled it but it's happened it hasn't happened once or twice her three or four times.

1:12:29But she showed up in a U-Haul. With her dog. All her shit in the back. Oh. And then the other one that I've been trying - It's not bad to only have one U-Haul worth of shit to be an adult female. I feel like that's not that much. Probably could have been a stay for like a month, right? So this is the other one. I want to get out there in a public way. And I've been trying to figure out how to film a video and put it out there, but I'm like, there's no win. You just look like a cocksucker. Yeah. I just look like a dick, but I want to put it out there and see if I can do it in a more elegant way.

1:12:59Okay, on holidays, birthdays, 4th of July, whatever it is, like if it means, if you're in my Rolodex and it means that much to you, please send a card. Right. Stop texting, happy birthday, merry Christmas. Happy, it's like, I think most of us, and I know I'm in a different, very blessed place to be. Happy BLM, I get that every year. no but I mean it's like yeah on Christmas I want to spend that with my grandkids this that and the other and like say my brother-in-law is bringing over the turkey that day and he has a question to ask about it like say I don't even want to answer him I have to dig for that text through 75 80 100 like Merry Christmases and I appreciate it very much I'm very blessed to have a lot of friends but like if it means that much like please send a card yeah I'm not gonna be upset if you don't text me on my birthday or say me at christmas like those are special times like you know you want to spend it with family and we need to get the fuck off our phones and computers on those days and get back to spending that time with the ones we love yeah so that's my spiel no i think it's true man i get i mean i just had a birthday and it was like oh man you spent half the birthday and then you feel bad that you didn't get back to people that kind of stuff's a nightmare dude you didn't text me back oh man yeah that yeah when somebody's like that about things too it's like unless it's something that's super crucial or important like you know starting to do that is like people in your spot maybe like people at fox news and different places like have a lot of friends there you know made friends with pretty much all the personalities at fox one way or the other through the years and several other channels and this that and the other and so I'll go you know try to promote something do somebody's show and the other one started me like I can't believe you're doing so and so show I'm like are you shitting me like just like I gotta go on everybody's show or you're gonna you know and it's not like they're mad but they just give me a little bit of shit and I'm like I don't need to get shit from you people like I'm just trying to do what's best for my career I love you I'm definitely gonna try to do something with all my friends in the space at some point and help them out you know to have a great show I want to see everybody win i'm a good friend i'm a team player but oh it's kind of frustrating yeah that happens a lot too i think with podcasting it's like oh you went on that show what about my and it's like you're just trying to survive you're trying to get through your year and especially when you podcast you have to do your own so it's hard to like i'll try and do like three or four a year of my friends you know like because they've done mine and i want to you know uh do that and i could do a podcast every single week the people that reach out for me that are all friends yeah And I don't care if it's politics, entertainment, actors, whatever.

1:15:38I could do one every single week. Yeah. It's insane. It's interesting. Oh, yeah. Let me read that last part of that AI so I can finish that up. Yeah, I just want to read that a second. The volunteer, the move makes Tennessee long known as the birthplace of music and the launchpad for musical legends, the first state in the U.S. to enact such measures. What does it do, though? What is the actual bill? What does it say? Basically, you own the rights to your voice and your image and likeness, which has been that way for all time. But people also couldn't create a song that sounds exactly like whoever.

1:16:16This technology, this is just the tip of the iceberg, this technology. I wonder, go back one more time. It says the volunteer state is just one of three states where name, photographs, and likeness are considered a property right rather than a right of publicity. Exactly. Oh, I love that. That's why I probably go back. Tennessee should be leading that fight, you know, with people like Marsha Blackburn and my friend, Senator Bill Haggerty and Governor Bill Lee, you know, this, they should be leading this charge. I've actually talked to several about really taking a hard look at Ticketmaster. Like they have a monopoly.

1:16:46And even though I make a lot of money for them and I love the people at Live Nation, we've done great business together. I'm like, this is fucked up. Like I'll be the first one to admit, like I'm overpaid. There's no reason to make this much money, but I can't control it because the market dictated in Ticketmaster, they may over a billion dollars in the secondary market last year that means if you buy a ticket and go to a concert you're their worst customer they want that ticket to resell right resell and keep getting keep getting that money on it and they could cut it out but the government will not hold them responsible to stop the bots the government says we're going to do it and they're not doing shit and these bots are out of hand we have to like i could charge so much less if i could get those tickets to people that want to come see these fans but like when we've done it in the past $20 tickets, it's like we have to scalp our own tickets just to combat the real scalpers.

1:17:36Yeah. And I know people that do this that used to work at big banks with Goldman Sachs. They do this full time and it's nothing illegal. They go on, you know, whatever night of the week and they buy as many tickets as they can to like 10, 15 of the hottest shows in the world. And then they just resell them for a markup and they're making more money than they were being at a huge bank. Yeah. And the fees, you'll, you'll sell, um, two tickets for$120 and the fees are$60. No, they're$120. They're almost damn, it's insanity. And you're telling me we can't get this under control? And I've told our senators here in Tennessee, the problem is Republicans too.

1:18:13This is one thing where I'm more, you know, leaning left on this because I'm a capitalist and a lot of conservatives, we free market capitalism. I'm like, this is out of hand. This is a place where regulation makes sense. You know, I'm for deregulation on most things, but I'm like, this is somewhere where it makes sense and this is something maybe i can actually try and do because it's something i know something about and i've done the homework on it right so we'll see what is something like that include though you think it's like starting a site like because i'm sure people have tried to start different sites and different ways of doing it i'm i don't i wonder how you would ticket master has a monopoly yeah there's other places to do their own monopoly is illegal yes yeah you can't just control the whole market on anything you know people have to be able to compete you know offer a service because that's what keeps prices in check right and coming down if you just if you're the only guy that sells camel pants in town you can charge whatever you want yeah i know zach bryan was trying to he tried to have a new method where they reached out direct uh it was like an a lottery system it's a conundrum trust me i just saw eddie vetter recently at an event and And they're really, Pearl Jam was really the first people that really went down this rabbit hole.

1:19:25Yeah, I remember that. Right. And I was, you know, just talked to him briefly. I was like, hey, I'm kind of going down that rabbit hole again. If you want to get on board, like, because this needs to be like, you know, he's obviously liberal. And, you know, you know where my politics stand. But I go, this is something where I think we could get together on. And because we're doing this for people, for fans to try to make things better. You know, it's so sick. So we'll see. But all of us when we were younger, just like Zach Bryan's doing, it's like we all want to try and change it. And then you get down this deep, dark hole and you're like, fuck, I can't do it.

1:19:55You know, we need these politicians to change it or they need to straighten up, you know, and Ticketmaster needs to do the right thing because they're claiming it's the right thing. This verified fan and all this shit. Well, guess what? The artists don't get any of that. Yeah. It's fucking highway robbery. Well, the fact that you would pay the same amount for ticketing fees, which is online, that you would to an artist for their, it's like. And Joe Biden's out there talking about like, oh, we got it under control. All he did was make them print what the fee is. Right. Not like change it. No, you just have to tell people where you're fucking them.

1:20:27All you got to do is put that on there. It's bananas. Yeah, it makes me sad. And you know what? It makes me sad. Sometimes it makes me sad to even put tickets on sale because I know that part of it is going to be that people are going to have to pay those fees, you know? It's crazy. I did want to get this part. Scroll up a little bit so I can read this part, please. The volunteer state is just one of three states where name, photographs, and likeness are considered a property rather than a right of publicity. So that's interesting. I think that's why they can't do like TMZ here and stuff like that.

1:20:53No, they tried. They did? We ran them fuckers out of town. Fuck them. Not in here. You do that shit bullshit in LA and New York where people call you and they want that fucking lifestyle. It's like, and I'm sure there's a couple of idiots here that want it. It's like, majority of us don't, and you're not going to be treated very nicely around here. Yeah. Don't bring that bullshit to Tennessee. I tell you, did you get one of my bumper stickers? Mm-mm. That sticker's amazing. Don't turn Nashville into the piece of shit city you moved here from. I wonder if it's happening more. I don't know. I wonder if it's going to be harder for people to...

1:21:30I was actually talking with Nick Cannon about this the other day. He was saying that in the future, you would be able to be in a movie just by licensing yourself to that movie and never have to go to a set or never have to... to work less, make the same amount, I'm in. Yeah. That took me about, what, half a second to do that math? But then what would it be like for new people trying to get in? Would that be tough? They're not. They're cut out. You're done. There's no more actors. They don't need you anymore. Everyone's an avatar, and it's so good that you're done. They don't need musicians anymore.

1:22:07Well, you need musicians to play live. Right. Right, that's where you need it to play live. That's where you need it. I'm sick of you bitching about you didn't get your tofu at the right time and your trailer and the favored nations like stay home we got it it could all change that could happen fast huh well there's not an why isn't there enough legislation that protects people anymore it feels like that's really it's always behind if you're looking for the government to be ahead of things yeah you know the famous Ronald Reagan you know line was you know the worst thing you could hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

1:22:41Yeah. You could hear in any situation, he nailed it. Like, you know, it's government. It's like a corporation. It takes them forever to get anything done. And that's because our forefathers put in a lot of checks and balances, which makes sense in a lot of ways. Nobody just has this, you know, that much power, but it takes a while. So the government's never going to be ahead of things. Like they're trying to get ahead of A &I because, you know, it sounds like there's some scary shit that could go on, you know, or all going to be being born in cocoons, like one of those movies or some shit or our future generations, but you know, they're not, they're not going to get ahead of anything ever.

1:23:14Never have. Yeah. It's unfortunate, but it feels like the responsibility is more and more on the person, maybe that more than ever to take care of yourself, your family, to have some sort of, um, yeah, we know how that goes. There's always going to be bad actors that I know that fuck the class curve up, you know, like most of us want to work hard and live and be decent people that said any other, and you know, it pisses me the fuck off. I mean, it drives me nuts. Every time I go in the refrigerator and, you know, get something new out, bottle of ketchup, and I got to cut a plastic seal off here.

1:23:47I got to take something off here. I'm like, because some fucking jackass years ago decided, you know, poison like food or like, you know, do some shit like this. I'm like, why are we, and we probably put them in jail for a little while. It's like, no, kill them. Get those people out of the, don't let these people breed. Just get them out of the system. Yeah. You know, it just ruins people's lives, you know, and the stupidest shit like that. that which sounds like nobody bugs everybody yeah but that kind of shit bugs everybody it's the tsa of it all it's like in australia you can still go meet somebody at the gate um at the airport yeah which is pretty cool it's like yeah uh and their food is different like it doesn't have as much stuff in it so like it tastes different um oh i'm big on that like yeah there's have you got this app yet i'll promote it because it's a smaller company it's great it's called yuka y-u-k-a so you grab that it doesn't do liquor i don't think healthy you know energy drinks but does everything else in your cup board you like like you know i eat like fresh cut i intermittent fast too i didn't throw that in really yeah i do at least four days in a row a week you know where i only eat in a six-hour window and it's a lot of fresh cut vegetables or like you know protein salmon we have chickens eggs i eat what i want for dinner blah blah blah but this app you go in like say i use tzatziki or hummus for my fresh cut vegetables you know have a little flavor well there's one hummus you can get where this this app scores it you just hit the barcode and it'll tell you what's wrong with it make choices like there's one tzatziki sauce i had says zero out of 100 100 being the best and then there's another one that already buys it's like a 75 so that you can make healthier choices on the fly in the grocery store or in your cup board yucca yeah yucca it's pretty interesting i hope you know people would yeah there it is would get this download this and uh give it a try and um hopefully they'll make some better choices damn dude i can't i used to miss that going to the grocery store with my mom when you were a kid and remember at the end you would always be you always wait till the very end you try to behave and then you'd ask mom hey can i get this at the candy and we get some twinkies yeah yeah let me get this um where do you stand with bud like these days bob i know you still drink it yeah we're all good yeah they just keep fucking with me it's awesome do they become friends actually, you know, the CEO and some of the guys I really like them, you know, like I said I don't want to dig it out again, but the latest one is, on my birthday they sent me the truck buying with 100 cases of Bud Light, I'm like smart asses, now they just sent me 20 Bud Light bowling balls I'm like, alright, you know, great conversation pieces, you know I'm a man of God, God fearing man and I, you know, I think they messed up and I believe in forgiveness and I'm like, alright Right.

1:26:26And now look what, you know, when you see what Planet Fitness is doing, see what Ben and Jerry's stands for, you know, maybe Targ. Fuck Ben and Jerry's, dude. Right. Fuck them. That's like not even like, that's so far gone. You're like, I don't even want to discuss about places like Starbucks and fucking, you know, Target at some level. It's like, hey, you guys going to wake up? Like, well, yeah. Just leave, stay the fuck out of it. But why even try, like, I know you want to be supportive, but just have gay employees, have like. you can't help that we all got gay employees gay family members gay friends it's just part of you know what it is it's like you're either fucking cool or you're not cool agree the fucking bottom line yeah i don't need yeah this a big thing it's like come be gay here or whatever and it's like i don't i just want to be at target man it's already kind of fucking gay you know what i'm saying like it's like so yeah when people try to over push it it's just so fucking dumb well Bud Light also had that, they had a woman and she was just dumb.

1:27:25Yeah. It's like, what do you think is going to happen when you hire? And not that women are dumb, but that lady just made it. Yes, exactly. When you hire a, you know, when you hire a woke, you know, whatever, whatever something you're old out of some liberal college, you know, to come work in whatever, you know, New York city or wherever to do marketing, what do you think is going to happen? Yeah. You know, the bottom line is, and they weren't, they were riding number one. They weren't watching the hen house in a fucking box. Dylan Mulvaney is a fella. I'll say this, dude. That guy is, he knows what the fuck he's doing, bro.

1:27:59Dude, some of those videos are fucking hilarious. Like when he was, I don't know if he was all transient, but he's on The Price is Right. You're like, oh my God, this is fucking good. I didn't see that he's on there. I didn't see it. It's fucking good. Bro, this fella has, he, it's, he just says he's kind of low key like as smart as you could be about it he's a marketing guru like I got no problem I can try to do his things I'm just like do things that align with you know his lifestyle whatever fucking brand that is I'm like but you might not want to try to sell camo fucking you know camo guns with Dylan Mulvaney like that's just common sense yeah some of it has nothing to do with fucking transes I'm like no fan of it you know I have the lifestyle like yeah you're not gonna get fucking me I'm not going to be fucking cheerleading for that shit.

1:28:48Yeah, but I can also, I understand America. If you're a freedom-loving dude like myself, then at some level, publicly, that's fine. Yeah, people need to be able to live comfortably too. Anything else you want to go over? Was there any other good news articles that came up? Oh, dude, so Sturgis. I played that often on the motorcycle rally. Yeah, I've never been up there. That's wild. So I've done it often for the last 20 some years or whatever. But I think, and this isn't confirmed yet, but we've had some conversations. I think Trump's going to come speak before I play out there. And it's already nutty.

1:29:20It's just like all bikers, like probably 30 ,000 to 40 ,000 already. Wow. So no telling what, if this comes through. The hills will be alive, huh? Oh, man. What was the first fight that you went to with Trump? How did that come to pass, kind of? I know that Dana and Trump are friends. Yeah, we're all friends. And, you know, obviously love Dana, love the UFC, love Trump. We're all mutual friends. and Dana had this idea to take American Badass and make this entrance with Trump. And I was like, fuck, yes. I didn't know we were going to all sit there at the front and center the whole time. I'm like, yeah, I can get down with this anytime.

1:30:00I wasn't able to make the last one, but I obviously love Dana, love what he's done. It's bananas, man. You've been there. Oh, it's unbelievable, man. I've been there when you arrived. Yeah, play it up. play one of them? I don't play second fiddle a lot either. That's true, Connie. You kind of walk in like in distance of Fort.

1:30:23Yeah, bro. When they roll in, it is an entrance. We have a blast, too. I sit next to Trump, drink my beers, we gamble on some fights, throw 100 hours just to keep it interesting and stuff. Will you guys bet against each other or will you bet online? No, we'll bet against each other. Yeah. Just for fun. Have you learned to like UFC more? Or have you learned to, have you developed any more appreciation for it? Yeah. I love all, like, fighting sports. You know, I was big into boxing, too. Still love boxing, but I love MMA. And especially what Dana's done with the league. You know what I mean? Like, he's just on it.

1:30:56Yeah. He's just one of those guys who's going to win no matter where he was, what he was doing. He's just that level of hard work, brains, common sense. I don't think people understand the level of work that it takes, too. it's like all the free moments that you want to have a free moment you have to choose i'm not going to have a free moment right now i have to do something either immediately just to make myself healthier to be able to keep going or i have to do some work absolutely that's it's and i tell people all the time it's absolutely i believe impossible to be very successful working 40 to 50 hours a week never gonna happen yeah i mean it takes anybody successful will tell you're like oh no no that was you know they're working 75 80 hours a week like it's non-stop you're just go go go yeah i mean last night i was up watching and editing looking over questions for today you know i probably went to bed at one right you know i wanted to go to bed earlier probably but it just didn't happen but i think that's i gotta say you're doing great too just great questions cool laid back talking like you know you're the third one i've done now i've done bill maher and rogan and you and you're you're great man and i and i love the commute over here That's true, it's close.

1:32:04That's a flight L.A. or Austin. Thanks, bro. Yeah, that's one thing I do feel that's been nice about Nashville, man, is being able to meet different folks. And at some point, everybody comes through here, as you know. So if there's somebody you want to have on, you can be like, look, when you come through, boom, it's so much easier. Yeah. You know, that's nice, man. And just being able to be around country music. I think my mother may want to move here at some point. My mom just bought a condo here. Your mom did? Yep. So after your father passed, she's moving here? She's going to start spending a lot more time here.

1:32:34She's like, there's no amount of sunshine. Because there's snowbirds, Florida and northern Michigan in the summer. And she's like, there's no amount of sunshine that's worth not being near to my family and grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I'm like, all right. And she loves music. Oh, really? She's turned me out to a lot of great music. She's like Diggs Underground. She was just here a few weeks ago. She went and saw Randy Rogers, a great band out of Texas. And she was there at the show and got to meet them and the opener. And she just had a blast. She would do that all the time. Have you heard of Red Clay Strays?

1:33:04Have you listened to them? I like their stuff. I dig them. Tell me about like Northern Michigan, because I always hear you talk about Northern Michigan. It is God's country. Is it really? It's like, you know, the cleanest lakes of water you could drink, the freshest vegetables and food in the summertime, the greatest people on earth. It's like kind of the Hamptons, but not, it's not, there's wealth up there and there's, you know, middle to, you know, working class. everything in the summer of course there's a lot more wealth on the lakes and things like that but everybody's just it's more like a working man's wealthy situation and people that everyone gets along it's like kids are ecstatic to have their first job at mcdonald's you know it's not some disgruntled single mother you know spitting on your food or some shit like you know the ice cream shop like it's like a norman rockwell painting basically it's it's uh i love it love up north michigan yeah i gotta get up there man didn't you take uh jimmy john's yacht up there one time is that a true story yeah he's brought it up yeah why can you let me sail i had a house in detroit and it was going to chicago and he goes hey if you want to jump on and you know take care of the crew whatever and take some friends i was like dude the yacht on the great lakes which was great for like you know a week everyone thought it was my yacht it's 200 foot shit show it's beautiful and so cool of him to let me do it and uh it was pretty funny one of my working class buddies He was on there with me.

1:34:25Yeah. And he's like, he goes, you know, there's more staff on there than friends. Yeah. Just buddies with their wives. And he's like, dude, I just don't understand this level of wealth. Like, I can't like get past it. And I go, dude, I'm going to tell you something. I go, you know how the fuck you get to this level of wealth right here? Like Jimmy John. You know what he does? I go, makes a really good turkey sandwich. I know. He works really hard. We love Jimmy. me yeah love him hard worker um there was one article about somebody in michigan what was that let's hit one or two more news stories then we'll oh they got leprosy in florida yeah well they had that fake tit wash up on the beach down there and you gotta leprosy what is everybody petting armadillos down there or something crazy bro did you ever have any over the years it feels like you would have come across some crazy pets like did you ever um did i ever have crazy pets or Like, because it was that fad kind of time where people were like.

1:35:23I remember Tony Stewart had like a tiger and then he had, you know, a couple monkeys and shit. But he also had a couple chicks from Bucky's. I know. He likes some real ass women, dude. Tony will roll up with a fucking real ass woman, bro. Love Tony. Never too crazy. We've got, you know, horses and dogs and chickens and had some longhorn steer. And I used to have parrots when I was a kid. Really? I used to flip them for money. I get these like cockatiels, these blue front Amazons, teach them how to talk and I'm flipping, make two, three hundred bucks. And then you fucking ended up still flipping the bird, bro.

1:35:56I went and bought them hip hop records, son. Got down. I was flipping parrots, getting into hip hop. That's crazy. And who had a couple parrots on? Like where did you get somebody to get you? No, you buy them like pet stores or people, you know, raised them like hand fed, you know, cockatoo or cockatail or blue front Amazon. And the best is like they mimicked. Like my mom always used to yell for somebody, especially my dad, he might be down at the barn. She's like, Bill! And that's one of my birds, keep in front of the window in the summertime with the window open. And that mother would start going, Bill!

1:36:28And my dad would be like, what? What? He'd be like, Bill! And my dad would come running up. The barn was quite, you know, we had six acres, was down, whatever. My dad would come running up, sweating. And he'd be like, fucking what, Susie? And my mom would be like, what are you talking about? I didn't call you. He'd be like, goddamn that fucking parrot. I'm going to kill it. That's awesome, man. That's fun, dude. I say fuck too much, don't I? I didn't notice it that much. That's what I heard from a few of my last podcasts. I was like, dude, you say fuck like every other word. I'm like, I fucking do not.

1:37:02I didn't even notice it. Teacher alleges she was fired from Michigan school because of her rap career. What? This is up your alley. A woman who began in Taylor. That's where Joe C was from. Really? We call it Taylor Tucky. Yeah. Taylor's some working class. Fuck yeah, dude. We love Taylor. A woman who began working at Taylor Prep High School in August says she was fired last month because she refused to erase materials she created for her rap career. A parent of one of the students complained about Dominique Brown's content after the parent discovered one of Brown's music videos. Brown, who goes by the stage named Drippin' Honey, Hey, Drippin' Honey.

1:37:41Says the parent anonymously complained about her content leading to a meeting between Brown, the school dean, etc. Brown allegedly asked the school to tell her in writing what issue the school had. I hope she gets a single out quick. She was given an ultimatum. Ooh. What was her name again? Drippin' Honey. Drippin' Honey. Yes, she is. Wow. Dang, baby. I got to peep out her stuff. What if she just had a couple bangers and they got OnlyFans thing going like double down? Drizzle-o-bee. You got to be a bear or be a grizzly. Yeah. drizzle over here shawty what about this reminds me of It's So Cold in the D remember that?

1:38:23oh yeah you ever meet her? how the fuck we supposed to be free it's so cold no but I would love to pull that up dude it's so cold in the D how the fuck we supposed to be free video is just genius just kind of go into it a little bit yeah Yeah, just play like start 10 seconds in maybe. Yeah. Everybody's so hype in this video. Gotta get them to chill out. Everybody's like, I ain't even excited. Casually in a graveyard. I ain't even excited being a music video.

1:39:15Cold in the deep. See, you're already singing it. How the fuck are we supposed to be free? Dang, baby. Are we supposed to keep peace or be free? I don't know. Both of them. I think those are both lines. She's switching up. She's versatile. That's versatility. Do you miss some of the times when you could really go hard? Do you think you went as hard as you could go? Yeah. Did Kid Rock party as much as he could, you think? Yeah, but I always picked and choose my battles. Now, you're saying what's the most fucked in place. So it wasn't like playing fight. It was, it was, it was being fucked up from the night before.

1:39:45Yeah. And I would do that maybe once a year, like in the early days. And it would remind me, it would straighten that shit out for the next year. Cause that is worse than having a few drinks or whatever you're doing. Like before a show, like having that all nighter still up fucking. All right. I got to go rock for two hours. Bullshit. Like, yeah, fuck that. No, no. And I didn't want any part of that. Like, you know, but yeah, we went, we went pretty hard for, but you know, I was raising a kid too at the same time. So that really kept that checks and balances that I think a lot of people in my position didn't have.

1:40:17I was a single father and I had a lot of great help from a lot of great women. But, you know, so that Thursday through Sunday when I might be on the road or certain things that I'm working at or, you know, yeah, I got pretty wild. But Sunday, back up, you know, dad's home. Straighten that shit out. Yeah.

1:40:39so we got the new tour no new tour just new show oh yeah oh we got the Rockin' Country nine shows this year ladies and gentlemen seven Rock the Country Kid Rock's Rockin' Rodeo and the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally at the Buffalo Chip and you have a comedy show here that you do this year oh yeah this is our you came on the first year man it was awfully cool you were big time then and you know we have some great comedians you probably know some of the guys if you want I know all of these guys And yeah, this will be at the Ryman in Nashville. All for charity. Oh, it's all for charity. All for charity.

1:41:11Last year, we were able to help some of the helicopter people that died out of Fort Campbell and victims of the school shooting here in Nashville. Oh, wow. Yeah, I have actually. Oh, yeah. Chris Porter is going to be on it. Jordan Jensen, Adam Carolla, Gary Owen, John Reap. Oh, wow. It's great because everybody knows it's kind of for charity, even though they get a little something. because everyone's like, you remember, you popped in, you did like 15. It was so nice. So you don't have to hold the whole show. You can come and just nail a couple of your greatest, play a couple of the greatest hits and like, yeah.

1:41:44And it's one of my favorite things. Oh, bro. Yeah, this is probably your third year doing it, you think? Yeah, with our boy Brian, you know, from Zanies. Such a great dude. Brian Dorfman, great guy. Brian Dorfman, love him. And you know me, I've become like a groupie at Zanies. I pretty much hang out in the green room giving comedians handjobs before the show. It really is kind of wild how much you love it. I'll be over there just watching somebody and they'll be like, kid rocks here. And I'm like, again? And the best is all the jokes that are about you half the time. Oh, they are. You're just ripping the shit out of me.

1:42:14I know. Chance Willie has some great jokes about you. He does. I love Chance Willie. I'm waiting for his first full thing. It'll happen soon for him, I think. He just moved to Austin to keep working harder. Oh, really? Yep. He just moved, I think, like a week ago. God bless you. I know. God bless you, Chance. You know you got a fan here. That's a hardworking dude. And yeah, you know what you did, man? you sent me a nice uh picture that we all took on stage you guys sent me like um yeah a little frame thing i have it framed up we try to keep it classy on some levels yeah you do a nice job man dude i want to say i appreciate you uh yeah i remember right when i got into town you reached out and said hello and um and have just continued to make me feel a part of things uh at different times and and introduced me to some of your friends and stuff like that and i appreciate that man much respect man i think you're kicking ass doing a great job and uh i'm right here when you need me cousin gang bro i appreciate it i even wore this shirt i didn't show you the whole time i didn't see it but this is authentic right here oh that's i don't yeah i don't know this is the i don't care either way i think it's authentic if not then it's fucking ticket master got me again bro that's all i know you steal that from a fucking meth head one of those secondary sites bro let me just say this this shirt is tested positive for a lot of things kid rock man we'll See you on your tour.

1:43:29And thanks for coming in, man. God bless, brother. Love you. Now I'm just floating on the breeze. And I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can feel it in my bones. But it's going to take. Thank you.