E494 Dustin Poirier

26:33But that's what makes fighting so fun. We don't know until we watch it. And Charles and Armin, that can go either way. Both great grapplers. I would think Charles would have an advantage standing up, but we got to see. yeah because now if if if max went like yeah i'm just wondering where do you because i got two wins over max i just lost my last loss was to justin if max beats him does he stay at 55 or does he go back to 45 what do you think like if you think like do you feel like you have a certain amount of fights left in you what is that yet is it start to feel like that's an interesting thought do you start to feel like, oh, I think I, I might have one or two left in there.

27:18Or do you think you would get a definite feeling from yourself when you're like, I think so. Right. Yeah. I don't even put a number on it. I just like, even this last one, how I feel in the warmup room, how I feel walking through the tunnel, walking into the crowd, getting into the octagon, like how I feel then I felt good. You know, I felt like it wasn't time to stop. Right. So maybe next time, you know, if I feel like that again, then it's not time to stop. I don't want to put a number. I just put on, on the way I feel. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by PrizePix. Do you love firing on sports like I do?

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30:13What was it like to get like, um, because if you were going through like a if there were some real tough some of your toughest times after uh the gaichi fight right before the bsd fight how what was it that made you able to stay in like get ready for that next fight because that's a space where i honestly i think a lot of people can relate to in their lives like like god like i don't feel i don't feel great right here or you know there's something in my life that's not perfect or that's not the way I wish it to be. That's not my will, you know, and how to get ready then for something still that's important.

30:53Like we were talking about earlier, I think just having a name, having a date to circle on my calendar kind of put me in the right direction mentally. Like I knew I had something to work towards. It was a big challenge. It's a fight. It's what I've been doing my whole life. Like that kind of put me back on the track where I needed to be. Obviously practicing mindfulness and speaking to therapy and talking to my wife and stuff like that was helping along the way. But whenever I got the name and the date for this next fight, everything kind of clicked into, all right, this is what I need to be doing.

31:20Wow. Yeah. It really drowned it out. All the idleness of sitting at home or overthinking. I had such a big challenge in front of me that that's all I focused on. Everything else, like blinders, that's how fighting is for me. Is that part of the reasons why you also took that fight, you think? Because you're like, yeah you're like I need a goal right now yeah I was in the spot it just happened they called where I was in the spot of my life like and mentally in a place where whatever name they called with I would say yes I just needed a challenge you know because I needed to be at war with something else besides myself because I was fighting myself every day yeah yeah man that's fascinating yeah so many times I'll sit around like fighting myself instead of picking up like putting something on the calendar that is something I could be a goal.

32:05Yeah. Uh, be a, something I could try and conquer a challenge, man. Yeah. If I'm not, if I'm not at war with something, I'm at war with myself. That's crazy. Yeah, man. And sometimes I don't even realize it. I'm sitting there, I'm pitching and hitting against, but I don't even know what's going on. Yeah. And definitely down on the judges scorecards. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not winning the decision. yeah bro i'll be the judge dude and i'll fucking be giving myself shitty fucking i'll be the judge and the jury yeah i'm like this guy sucks he's guilty yeah guilty man god that's the same way i am man um but it's good too because that mindset and having that work problem if you focus it on something you could really you know go far right yeah right It's almost, it's that same, it's a gift that occurs.

32:54Yes. You know, but recognize it. Having some ability to see it is also a gift because when you're just in it and you're just a victim of all that and you just keep doing it, you're reactive only. That's when it, that's when it feels like it can feel catastrophic sometimes. For sure. But then also it can feel that's the same stuff that draw, like just gives you unending motivation, you know? Right. They have, so do you have, do you know for yourself, do you have a fight that you want or you don't know yet? I want to fight for the belt. that's what I want you do that's the last thing I have to do in this sport is be the undisputed world champion after I do that anything you can do in the sport I've done right you know I have 30 fights in UFC been fighting a long time before the UFC like that's the last thing I have to do yeah yeah but also I don't want to attach myself to it too much to where if it doesn't happen or if I never get another title shot that I judge my life's work on that you know like I don't want to leave it like that.

33:49So I'm just really practicing, trying to be content, like in the place and space that I'm in, you know? Yeah. Yeah, dude. I felt like when you won that fight, it's interesting how much, like I was in that bar, like me and my, um, uh, comedian friend Amir, we're in this bar in Australia. We're watching and I'm like holding onto some guy and they don't even know, like everybody's just, people were on their edge of their seat. There was like, some guy left his wife right during it. Like people were a lot, like there was just so much going on, man. But it felt like you almost felt the whole planet.

34:24It felt like take an exhale, like, Oh yeah. Like it felt like things were possible. That's what was craziest about it. I think. And somebody had a great tweet. It was like, uh, Dustin for humanity. And I was like, man, that's exactly how it felt it was like the underdog came through again man yes i think it made everybody just feel like oh there's still things that can happen in the world that uh like a guy stands a fighting chance for sure yeah dude i've i'm mr bounce back every time i take an l i come back you know i come back and it's a challenge to myself every time because i've never lost two fights in a row getting knocked out by gaichi jumping right back in camp you know unsure of the future what if i you know and i was in a bad place what if i lose this fight where am i going to be at then you know but to get my hand raised and put on a performance like that it's just like fuck man hard work pays off yeah dude that strut after what did trump say to you after the fight i was uh i couldn't hear what he was saying i was talking to dana and then i was somebody sitting next to dana was telling me they bet like 200k on me or something like that and i was trying to get my 20 from her that's what i was talking about yeah yeah you're just walking around collecting yeah like hey always be closing the work is done baby we gotta collect it looks like i'm talking to trump but i'm talking to somebody dana and somebody's sitting next to him oh i see yeah you're doing good you're great you're phenomenal vice president um yeah that's unbelievable man god what is that how soon do you after you say you end up knocking someone out what's the appropriate amount of time for you have to go over there and check on them well I guess everyone's different but he was kind of sitting down for a while so and um the rough was waiting for us to get in the middle so I kind of helped him walk to the middle talk to him a little bit um it just depends how bad it is and how much they're moving you know right you never know man that's so wild um yeah because I guess can you kind of tell how because you you haven't been haven't haven't been knocked out or gotten knocked unconscious you know what it's like I mean, you guys have that throughout your careers.

36:37Yeah. Because nobody's around knockouts as much as you guys. Do you start to gauge how well a guy is after it kind of thing? See, like I've been in the corner of so many guys who have been knocked out and I've been around fights for so long. So I kind of see when people go back to the locker room and they don't even remember what happened. They keep asking the same questions over and over again. Like that's when you know it's serious. Wow. Yeah. So I didn't go to his locker room and speak to him after, so I don't know where he was. but he seemed like he shook back pretty quick in there. He was talking pretty clear.

37:07Yeah. Yeah. Has Dana and Sean, have they offered you a title match yet? No. Okay. No. I don't know what's next, but I think we're going to hear it soon. You think that? Yeah, I know. Oh, that seems interesting. News alert. Breaking news. Yeah. What about boxing? You see this stuff? Like, do you start to think as you get further in your career that there's a lot of people fighting, going to boxing? Tyson Pedro just went to boxing. Did he? Yep. Wow. He just started. There's guys who go like that'll fight like in the Jake Paul, you know, in that world. Right. Do you see yourself ever doing something like that?

37:52Would you ever count something like that out? or I just, I'm 35 and I have, you know, I think five fights, six fights left on my current contract with UFC. I don't know if I'm ever going to fight that out. You know, am I going to fight six more times and become a free agent? I don't, I don't know, but I would love to box. Yeah. So even if you were to go to boxing, do you have, does that UFC have to have a part in that fight? If I'm, well, if you're still in the contract, if I fight whatever's left on my contract and I'm free agent, that can do whatever I want. Right. Yeah. But if not, and there's not like a, an equal parting, then even if you were to go do boxing, like Tyron Woodley went and boxed, he was, he was out of his contract.

38:30Oh, he was out of his contract. Yeah. I think the only person who's ever done that is Connor, where UFC was co-promoted it and got a cut of it, but it was such a, it was yeah, against Mayweather, but it was such a big fight. Everybody won. You know, that, that makes sense. Other than that, I don't think the UFC would like let anybody do that. Yeah. Cause it would open up a can of worms. I think it would just open up a crazy can of worms where now Dana, He doesn't want to, it doesn't seem like help promote a lot of that. Yeah. And he's built the UFC. The brands is so strong now. I don't know if they want to give any other brands the rub by co-promoting and stuff like that.

39:00Yeah. And we fight mixed martial arts, you know, boxing is a part of mixed martial arts, but it's a whole different thing, man. Do you think it would be something like when you think about that, is it something that's kind of interesting or do you feel like, uh, I just like mixed martial arts because you're great on your, you know, one of your, like even with BSD or BDS, I can't remember, but he, um, BSD, BSD, he, it felt like he didn't, they didn't want to have you on the feet that much, you know? Yeah. It felt like it, it wasn't a preference of his, right. Just watching. And every time we went to the ground, I took myself down.

39:36I never got taken down once by him. I was jumping guillotines, you know, ending up on my back. Yeah. I never got taken out, but we, we worked wrestling really hard that camp. We thought he was going to be diving for my legs, you know, he just seemed a little bit slow on the feet. And, uh, you know, if you stand in front of me, he didn't have great head movement in his fights. The videos we watched, if you stand in front of me, like I'm going to get you, you know, something's going to land. That's going to hurt you, especially over five rounds. That's why I asked the UFC for it to be 25 minute fight.

40:00I didn't want to do three rounds. Cause if this guy pushes me against the fence and I lose one round, right. You know, like I think the better fighter wins over the long run. So I asked them for five rounds and they gave it to us. Yeah. What is that? What are those moments like when you're just up against the fence and it just feels like, it feels like two neighbors kind of just like, are like having an issue about something. Bro, fighting is like when you're not touching each other, like when you're squared off, like fainting and throwing punches, that's just like, it's, it's chaotic. But when you get to the fence or you get on the ground and you're kind of, you know, pummeling and stuff like that, that's when like reality sets in where you get like a moment of clarity like oh shit this is happening oh damn I'm against the fence he's kneeing me but like you don't think you don't have time to think when you're fighting like if you're scrambling on the ground or throwing combinations and blocking kicks and firing punches back it's it's kind of chaotic you're not thinking you're just reacting but whenever you get to the fence and a guy's clenching you and you have time to think you're like oh shit that's when it sets in this is happening wow yeah because you almost have moments there's times where you see the fighters kind of look around or they'll they'll just be locked in a moment and they'll just kind of engage with somebody almost or yeah it's it's it's surreal like when that moment of clarity sets in when when the fight slows down a little bit it's pretty crazy man because then you can hear the crowd and it's sometimes i can hear the commentators like i'll hear joe rogan through the fence talking it's it's crazy um if boxing yeah so who would you fight if you had to do a celebrity boxing match do you have any thoughts on it ever biden maybe oh dude yeah he's already he already lost time.

41:35The bell might wobble him when it starts. You ready? Fight. He's like, oh shit. Yeah. I think even if they let him use like 12 year old kids as smelling salts though, I think he might bounce back, you know, or fight Hunter Biden. Oh, that'll be a good one. Coked up. Sure. Yeah. That'll be a good one. I'd hate to fight all coked up. Yeah. It'd be the worst. Um, yeah, I'm trying to think of something else I was going to ask you about. They should do Trump biden they should do yeah yeah yeah that'll be a good one that'd be a pay-per-view blockbuster yeah i wonder who would actually well trump would probably win i think from pushing him over i don't know if trump trump has does this he has like that seems a little bit more pep in his step yeah yeah yeah he might have a little bit more um i'd bet the money line on that one trump um did you uh can you bet on yourself legally i used to be able to um ever since like maybe a year ago they put in that that claw or that rule we can't so i completely stopped but i still bet on boxing and football and stuff can anyone in your house that could be i bet on myself sorry to cut you off i bet on myself a bunch of times coming up yeah like when i first started fighting in vegas you know oh yeah really what's the most that you ever bet on yourself you think not much maybe 500, a thousand maybe.

42:54That's a lot though. When you're coming up. Yeah, that was a lot. That's a lot, dude. But I don't know if I've ever laid a thousand dollars on somebody. Maybe I have. I can't, I can't get into one of my accounts. So I haven't been able to bet on you in a long time, but that last one would have been a good one. I know. I think by knockout, I was like plus three 70. Oh God. I got to fucking figure out. I think they stole my money, but, um, but yeah, I don't even know what company it was, but yeah. What do you think, man? I was going to say this. A lot of people are talking about aliens all the time and I'm talking about Joe Rogan, but if they attack us, right, and we have to send five UFC fighters to save the planet, you get to go, right?

43:36And you have to pick four to go with you. Who do you think you got? Like current fighters or just all time? Ooh, let's say current just to keep it. Yeah. John Jones for sure. Oh, yeah. John Jones for sure. Why? Because of the length? He's the best at do it. Right. Yeah. And he's big. And he's big. Yeah. So we got that. Maybe get a small person. We need like a 125er or something. Maybe the champ Pantoja. So we got a big guy. We got a small guy. Pantoja speaks Spanish, too. And I don't know what aliens speak, but. That's good to have some diversity on our side. You got a champ. Maybe toss a girl in there, too.

44:11Yeah. Because we might. You never know. Yeah. Who's the new girl that just came over from PFL? Yeah. Kayla Harrison. Kayla Harrison. Toss her on the team, too. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you got Kayla Harrison, John Jones, Pantages. Pantoja. Pantoja. Sorry. All right. And damn. Do we need another big guy, you think? How big are these aliens? Well, I'll say this. A lot of them, they're lateral movement struggles, but they can, like, blink and order Starbucks. So it's a lot of mental game. You might need a... Dang. I'd bring Gaethje. You know, I'd bring Gaethje. Yeah, you guys are warriors. He can go on the front line like the wrecking ball.

44:49We'll send him over first. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. They asked for somebody else, but you just tell them it was him. Yeah. They want you over there, bud. Yeah. He would go anyway, man. Yeah. One of the best things I ever saw was like one of the first UFC fights I ever went to. He's just backstage. He's in the backstage and literally just walking around looking, almost looking like he's going to fight anybody. He's like, I'm ready to fight anybody. He was fighting that night? No, he wasn't. Oh, man. That was the crazy part. but it was just like showing up, like showing I'm ready. You know, it seems like there's a lot of like, um, like cause you just get so few chances to show your shine and your sport.

45:26Well, every dude, every time we go out there, it's the Superbowl, you know, it's not like we have, we trained three, four months to prepare for this moment. It could be 15 or 25 minutes. The whole world's watching. There's no redos. There's no finger pointing my, you know, my teammates weren't picking up the slack or whatever. It's all you. and if you lose it's going to be a while till you get that opportunity again so everyone's a super bowl you know it's such every fight's the biggest fight damn it's exciting but it's it's scary at the same time yeah yeah i think that's what makes it so uh appealing to so many people i mean the sport's grown so much since you've been in it have you felt that as a competitor 100 really yeah big time not as as a competitor but like as a fan of the sport and just watching it grow in the fan, the new fan base, you know, cause when I first started, it was older, like older men watching this now kids.

46:16And even grandmothers are talking about fighting at the grocery store. You know, if I go get some groceries right now, I'm going to run into somebody and it can be back in the day, it was just like old dudes with beards, you know, talking about MMA. Now it's such a big sport. Everybody's kids are talking about it. Soccer moms are talking about it. It's cool to see the growth, the growth, but it's just crazy. The different wave of fans that come in with that, you know? Did you feel the growth, like being in the ring and stuff has, has the size of venues that you guys have been in and changing stuff too over the years?

46:45Yeah. The crowds. Well, when I first started fighting in Vegas, it was at the Palms. It might've, I don't even know, 1500, 2000 at the, at the, uh, yeah. Really? And it was, that was the UFC fight night. That was WEC UFC. They, they did big events like 10 ,000 or they go to the MGM or the Mandalay. They might have like 18 ,000. It was big, but they would only do pay-per-views every few months. You know, now there's a fight every week. Yeah. Every week. That's another thing that was cool at the beginning of fighting too. When I first got to the UFC, like you win a big fight that win, that high lasted for months because that's how long it was until the next event.

47:18Oh, so you, yeah, you got to be the real, everybody's still talking about that last card. Now you went on a Saturday. It's already, you, you, by the time you fly back home, it's fight week again for somebody, you know? So the, the focus of the media and everything switches to the new, the new guys coming up. So I've noticed that big time. Yeah. It's kind of a blessing and a curse. Cause also So then if you don't get the win, it's like that goes away pretty quick too. Right. Because somebody's getting fucked up the next Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. And you're almost hoping somebody gets really fucked up so that people forget quicker.

47:47Yeah. I hope somebody gets kicked in the head. That way they're talking about that one, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I remember that because I remember Dominic, Dominic Ray, Ray, uh, no, Dominic Cruz also got a head to head kick that went, uh, Cheeto, Cheeto. That was against Cheeto. Yeah. Cheeto's a cool dude, man. Yeah, Cheeto's a neat guy, man. Oh, it was powerful to see him go against Sean for just stay in there. Dude, he took some damage. Man, he did. That knee? Oh, my God. I had to rewatch it because I was doing media right after the fight, so I missed it, but I went home and watched it. Yeah. It made my throat hurt for some reason.

48:25He's never been finished, bro. Never. Yeah. I think he wanted to stand on that. It was amazing how Sean was just like.

48:36oh my god geez pez dispenser bro i feel like yeah i feel like you that ain't good for you somebody just opened up a pecan yeah cracked a pecan right there remember that sound oh yeah oh yeah you guys had pecan trees in your yard growing up yeah i used to uh gather them up and and go sell them so i could that was beer money was it oh yeah yeah bro yeah when i was growing up dude a sack of pecans was something nice dude i don't even know what they're going for now but i used to have the tools where you it rolls on the ground and picks them up yeah yeah dude we used to go pick them up my buddy robert he was thought he was kind of his parents thought he was haunted or whatever because he had some his mom was a nurse or whatever but his dad was out of work but they uh he we would go over to his house they had a couple pecan trees yeah man we go pick them up and sometimes you get them maybe a little too uh early yeah they're green they're bitter.

49:28Yeah, you still have it, but you don't wish you hadn't had it. Yeah. Sometimes you got to shake the tree to make them fall too. Really? Damn. You never threw sticks up in the tree to make them? No, we throw sticks, but I wasn't over there just fucking shaking that bitch too. Oh yeah, climb up, get on a branch, shake them down. Like Tai Tuivasa or somebody. Oh, you can shake it. Hell of a tree. Like Louisiana, we're the only people that call them pecans. Everywhere is pecan and you've traveled a lot. Yeah, I hear pecan a lot. You hear pecan outside of No, that's true. I don't. Oh, look at this right here.

50:00About to shake that bad boy. Oh, yeah. Mr. Weatherall, look at this thing.

50:09I don't know what's going on here, man. This dude, it looks like he's. Look at that. Ooh, shorty. Look at all the pecans falling. Bruh. Twerk team. Shorty getting wicked, huh? Shaking them branches, boy. Damn. They need to do a Mr. Weatherall remix to this then. Look at that. That thing shake what your mama gave, yo. You know what I mean? Bro, that's crazy. I wonder how many it says they got. Did it say? That's unbelievable. I mean, that's thousands of pecans falling. Because you know the green thing that goes around them? You know when they're ready, it opens up. It looks like. And then it has a shell in there.

50:40Right. But if you shake that when they're open like that, bro, they'll all fall. Bro, pecans were so good. Sometimes you would get them at the right exact time and it would be a little bit sweet. Yeah. Oh, that was so nice, bro. I loved having that. I like them fresh like that. Yeah. Get you a little snack. They were pretty good. What we got in the news? Nick? Drake gifted Sexy Red, Aiden Ross, J. Cole, and 21 Savage a heart chain. But many people did not think it looked like a heart. Oh, wow. That's a scrotum. Yeah, bro. That's a different set of pecans. That's a bean bag right there. Yeah. It's got veins on it and everything.

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52:20I'd wear maybe just an earring Yeah Especially if I'm biking I'd wear that bitch Just one Solo Bro having one nut has to be cool It's almost like mistletoe I feel like I feel like at that point Yeah I think having one nut has got to be Like a unique thing Two nuts, I don't want more than two I know that Yeah, two is a perfect amount Yeah, two really is, huh? Yeah, it's your balance. Yeah, you almost can juggle it, but you can't, you know? It's kind of a reminder. Yeah. This episode is sponsored by Blue Chew. If you have had sex before, then you know what I'm talking about, baby, sex. And sometimes you want to get that pump, baby.

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57:56Think about how tough it was without this. Yeah. Now, now you have this and it's just, you see the bullying and stuff like that on there. I don't think a kid can handle all that. Yeah, I agree. I mean, well, they have so many kids that like have had taken their lives, had a lot of issues with online bullying. And as a parent, the scary thing as a parent, you don't even know it's happening sometimes, I think. So that's probably one of the things I think would probably be good if they had. But also like raising a kid, all of her friends are going to be on social media when they, when they get that age and she might be the weird one out if we don't let her, it's, it's a weird place to be in.

58:29Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of parents don't set controls on their kids' social media. They just think the kid isn't going to get into stuff, you know? Yeah. Um, but I think, yeah, I don't have any children, but yeah, it would seem like as a parent, you got to make those choices because your child's not really going to, you know, they're going to make some of them, but you got to really look out for your kid at all at, in every space. Yeah. And that's crazy. I was, cause somebody could get to your child through social media. It's just so wild, you know? Right. And just the stuff they're exposed to, man, the internet's a wild place.

58:58Oh, it's horrible, dude. She has like kids, YouTube. We have like the parental, uh, settings and stuff on that. She can go on YouTube on her, on our stuff, but yeah, I don't want her seeing even some stuff on YouTube is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Um, what else did I say? Oh, I saw that kid still hitting home runs. You see that kid, big guy. I'll remember him. big al no the children's uh he was a um child an italian child i think he's remember he hits uh what did he call it this guy uh would hit home runs all the time my name's alfred delia at home they call me big al and i hit dingers hi my name is alfred delia at home they call me big out and i had thing and he grew up oh it's him as an adult yeah he's still hitting dingers dingers that's gotta be heavy for kids yeah i think kids yeah because if something happens to you when you're a kid and it goes big on social media then you're that kid forever right if you're like the kid that like yells a slur or something or calls somebody a g-a-y or something when they're on like dental gas or whatever.

1:00:11And then that's who you are forever. Like you can run for mayor years later on that, you know? The dental gas will get you. Oh God, that shit is fun, huh? You ever get any good gas, any good stuff to huff out there? Ah, whippets back in the day. Not the, not the dental gas. Back when I used to work at a restaurant, we used to crack them whippets. Oh, dude, the whipped cream, whenever they finally put it on dessert, that shit was just, just kind of dribbling out of it. It was dribbling out of my lungs. Yeah, bro, there was nothing left. There was no whipped cream left for your dessert. Oh, man.

1:00:49What's the number one fight that you would make outside of your division? Is there a fight that... I really want to see the 145-pound champ, Taporia. I want to see him fight Max. You do? Yeah, because Volk was the only guy Max couldn't beat at 45. He's pretty much cleaned out the division. Now there's a new young blood, great striker, good grappler. I think that would be an incredible fight, man. Max versus Taporia. Yeah, that's wild. Because who just called him out too? Sugar Sean just called him out? Hold on. Oh, that would be a good one too. Yeah. Yeah, that would be a good one. Do Max and Sugar Sean, are they in the same?

1:01:22No. Max is 45. Sean's 135. Okay, wow. But Sean's pretty tall. You know, pretty decent size for the division. But Max is a lot thicker than him. So, but Sean might move up out of his division. I don't know. I'm not sure. Yeah. He was talking about it. Do you think about that for any more of your fights? Are you happy in your division? I'm happy. Like a lot of people wanted me to go up to 170. But dude, like this morning I weighed myself when I woke up, I was 173. You know, I can't fight at 170 pounds. Those guys are going to rehydrate and be 190 for fight night, you know? Yeah. Like at the top, at the highest level, a guy with 20 pounds on you on fight night, you know, in grappling positions and side control, half guard, It's just that weight really matters when guys know how to use it.

1:02:08Yeah. Yeah. What about this guy? You ever heard him? Blood Diamond is his name? Yeah. He's Adesanya's friend? I think I've seen him fight, but I don't know much about him. I wonder if there'd ever be a fight for like the real, you know, the less. You know, the. He's a 55? No. What is he? He's 170. 170 if you'd ever go up just to put an end to the like I would fight at 170 if it was like a really really big fight but I'm not trying to make a run in the welterweight division man those guys are huge yeah I used to get a lot heavier though like the last couple years I've been walking around a lot lighter really yeah outside of training camp I've been eating clean you know before I would get in shape during camp and then after the fight eat pizza every day and enjoy life you know but i've the older i got the easier it is for me to just eat healthy and be all right i don't need to eat all that crazy stuff right you just start caring about you yeah we have you just start having a more of a general care about yourself um what else oh yeah i saw this right here furious parents offered version of school class photo without complex needs pupils so you can get you can pay more money and if your school has like special needs kids or whatever they'll take them out of the photos at school.

1:03:32Huh? I mean, that's crazy to me, dude. It's just everything you got to pay for. Now, soon they're going to make it. They're going to start. Every kid is on crutches in the picture, right? And if you pay a little bit more, then a couple kids come off crutches. Then somebody gets, you know, every kid like loses like body hair or whatever. It's going to get, I feel like you're going to have to keep paying to get an actual picture of your child, you know? Yeah. No, I didn't see that. But yeah, everybody's going to start in a wheelchair and the more you pay, then you finally get - Get the crutches from the wheelchair.

1:04:09Yeah, yeah. A boot, no crutches. Yeah, we keep moving up. Just an arm brace. Yeah. Shoulder sling, the more you pay. Yeah, neck brace. Right. That's ridiculous. Oh, man. Yeah, what do you feel like, man? And do you feel like you're getting towards the end of your career? Do you feel like you're just figuring it out? Do you feel like it's up to you? Do you feel like it's up to the UFC? What does it feel like? It's definitely up to me. And, you know, my wife, my coaches, they want me to keep going. My wife wants me to stop, but my coaches know I still have it. I'm just taking it one fight at a time.

1:04:46I still feel good. Like I said, my wife wants me to stop, though. My daughter wants me to stop, too. Oh, she does? Yeah. What did she say? Yeah, well, like, what is that? Like, cause at a certain point it kind of turns on for your kid what's going on. She's old enough now. She knows that I fight, you know, she knows what it is. Um, and she wants me to be home. You know, when I do camps, I'm going for eight weeks. They'll come out for two weeks. We try not to do more than two weeks apart. So I'll do like the first two weeks and they'll meet me and I'll do the last two weeks. But, uh, she doesn't want me to fight anymore.

1:05:14She doesn't want to see me come home with stitches. You know, since she was a baby, she's been like pulling stitches out of my face and stuff after fights. Oh, that's insane. Yeah, it's almost like on Lady and the Tramp when the kids meet at the spaghetti or something a little bit. It's a different version of that. Yeah. Where the puppies meet or whatever. What's your favorite business to you? You got involved in some businesses outside of work, man. What's that been like for you? Becoming more of like a business guy? Is that enough of a thing to entertain you enough outside of the sport and to keep you busy enough?

1:05:51Like, has that started to tip the scales enough? I think that's another thing that happens in people's lives who also have the opportunity to get into businesses. At a certain point, the business, you know, can start to become something that still appeases them and makes them feel, you know, like busy, like you like to stay busy. Yeah, but it's about balance. Like, I can't do too much of the business because it takes away from the fighting and fighting still my main thing. But the business stuff keeps me busy. It's fun. It's new. You know, I'm learning a lot. I have the hot sauce, have a bourbon, have a liquor store in Lafayette.

1:06:28Hot water, I'm partnering with them. You know, just have a lot of stuff going on outside of fighting that keeps me busy. And that's good, man. You know, like I said, I have to be busy. I have to be busy. Yeah. But it's balance. Yeah. It's balance. So right now you train right now? Yeah, I'm going to go box tonight. And this Friday I'm going to do jiu-jitsu. But I'm still training. Okay. Um, five mile frost. What do y 'all do? Five mile Sundays? Five mile Sundays. Yeah. Yeah, man. How much is fun, huh? Yeah, I do it fasted. Like at the end of my training camp, I do 24 hour fasts and then finish my fast with the run.

1:07:05Then I'll break my fast, you know, like. For run-madon or whatever? Nothing, huh? Yeah. That's not it. No. No, it's similar. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody was doing that. Yeah. At this vape shop. It is run-madon right now. Yeah. It's gotta be. Yeah. This fucking guy wouldn't shut up about it. A mirror probably. Huh? Yeah, could have been a mirror. But yeah, this guy kept fucking vaping. I'm like, dude, if you vape enough fucking watermelon, that counts as eating. If you do 200 puffs, dude, that counts as eating. March 10th into April 9th. What other avenue can we go down here, Dustin? Is there something else that you want to think about?

1:07:41How have you been doing, man? I've been doing pretty good, dude. I think, you know, I still, yeah, everything's been fun. I think sometimes I get busy with work and it feels like I don't even know what I'm doing. You're just going, almost going through the motion sometimes. So it's like, uh, that feels tough sometimes. Or it just feels like a challenge, I guess. Like, am I doing anything that means anything? Or am I just like showing up to work each day? Like clocking in. Yeah. Yeah. Even though it's your own job and things you want to be doing, it's still like sometimes feels like that. What else?

1:08:24Yeah, I still have a lot of trouble like feeling like proud of myself. You know, I think about that kind of stuff a lot. And I talked about that with people on the podcast, just like what it's like to. It's just so hard for me to like people are always like, man, you should take a moment and just feel happy. It's like, it just, I always want to, there's always a part of me that's trying to figure out the next thing. You know, it's really hard to just feel good about something, you know? So I don't know what that's about. What else outside of that? Your show's going good in Louisiana? Yeah, dude, we had fun.

1:09:04That was some of my best shows, man. I know you guys came out to the last one at UNO and that was awesome. We still have a lot of people that talk about that you were there. I ran into a guy at the gym the other day. He's like, yeah, you brought out Dustin. That was awesome. But we had some great shows this weekend. Nice. I just got a Cybertruck, too. Oh, you were telling me that? Yeah. You got it? Yeah. How is it? It's wild, bro. I mean, for one, you feel like you kind of work at Lowe's kind of a little because it feels like you're supposed to be delivering something to somebody, but you never drop it off.

1:09:38What do you put back there? I don't, it will know it's just the whole car feels a little bit like an appliance. Yeah. So it, that, it feels like, um, it feels like sometimes somebody's just going to open up the back and just put a TV dinner in it. You know, it's just has this like kind of, or just put a load of laundry in there and just press a button, you know, it has an appliancey kind of feel, but then it makes this sound when you go fast and it literally feels like you're going into the future. Nice. And some people don't know what it is. like there was a guy who like i don't know if he was homeless or not but he just he just seemed really homeless and he he was like what is it what is it you know and then he just kind of started yelling at it and just cracked a beer open and i was like god i feel a little bit like because people look over at it and then well first i thought the windows were tended right and they're not so i'm like elon fucking how much does it need these windows probably like 112 bucks bro and i ordered this bitch i got a buddy to do it for you yeah oh you got a buddy here will do it oh yeah yeah bro i gotta pull up on somebody bro get some of that swamp dog you know something bro just get it a little bit brackish you know yeah yeah um sure but so that's interesting I think I was a little bit embarrassed like at first like because everybody looks at it and you kind of don't want to be the center of attention sometimes so you're like and yeah and I thought it was so I'm in there like just being alive and shit and you're like oh everybody can see in here I thought nobody could see in because people would be at stoplights just recording a lot of times and I'd be like I'm safe in here you know and then I'm not and so that was dumb but yeah what's it like it definitely feels like the future some it looks like the future yeah they have the big tires on them right yeah the tires feel like they almost feel like they're from like a some vehicle out of like a um sci-fi movie or something yeah it's got a sci-fi kind of feel to it i've only seen once uh one in person yeah in miami yeah you did yeah was it what was it yeah what was it like At first, I was like, I don't know how I feel about it, but it's growing on me for sure.

1:11:55It looks strange to me. It's cool. It's different. Yeah, I was surprised. I ordered it four years ago, and I got home. My buddy John Shahidi is close with Elon, and they just got me an early one of it. Yeah, I ordered it four years ago, I think. When did that order go out for Tesla first? I didn't even know about them four years ago. Yeah, they started taking orders. Yeah, Tesla can be 2019. I'll put that$100 down on that site. Yeah. Because you got to think, even if a million people put it on, that's$100 million they made right there. That's a lot of trucks to make. Earnings call in October. Musk said demand was off the charts and everything.

1:12:36Over$100 million people have paid$100 in a refundable deposit for this hybrid truck. So you think there's news we're going to hear, Dustin? That's what I'm feeling out of you? We'll see. We'll see. okay that's fair man uh cool bro you're gonna be uh people can come and see you with anthony pettis yeah uh in indiana next weekend anthony pettis has his own fight promotion they're doing a big event up there i'll be watching uh fights with the fans signing autographs hanging out okay um and also ufc 300 i'll be at the mohegan sun doing a viewing party there's a big sports book there so we're gonna be watching the fights okay bet oh nice man um and then you're going are you gonna go see um tiago fight this week so yeah tiago's fighting perry mike perry huh yeah in la i want to go to it i'm just not sure yet yeah god that's gonna be wild yeah it's gonna be insane bro is this tiago's first bare knuckle fight no no he was a champion oh he was oh i gotta get up on game man yeah have you ever been to a bare knuckle event no bro it's different i don't know if I'm ready.

1:13:47Like the bone on bone. Oh, man. It's rough. It's rough. Oh, yeah. There's a got to be. There he is right there. Oh, my God. There's a lot of organ donors in there. Dude, Tiago is so tough, man. He's a vet. Legend of the game. Great coach as well. The nicest guy. If you didn't tell me that he was a, I would not even think it. Yeah. He's solid, man. Wow. I think that last fight, though, he came to the gym the next week. His hand looked like a balloon. that you're like a glove doctor glove that you blow up or something is just like puffy he broke his fingers and knuckles and yeah that's wow that's gonna be a war man isn't it so amazing how uh mike perry has found such a home in this sport this is perfect for him man that's he's the face of bare knuckle fighting now you know so wild yeah his style and his grit just how crazy he is this is perfect for him yeah it's amazing how it all kind of like things evolve where there is a space for everybody you know yeah he found his spot for sure wasn't jarard mearshart just in this too no he's still in the ufc oh he is yeah that was uh luke rockhold oh yeah rockhold's fighting this week or something he just fought no i think he's fighting uh karate uh combat versus joe shilling oh those are interesting i haven't been in one of those you've been in one of those no i've never been in one yeah um it's pretty much just like mma except they might only grapple for a couple seconds if it goes to the ground.

1:15:17So it's just like kickboxing with small gloves. Yeah, there you go. Oh, that'd be interesting. That's going to be a good one, man. Yeah. Dustin Poirier, man, good to see you, bro. Thank you so much for just the fights over the years, giving us all like just, yeah, man. It's just been so fun to be along for some of your journey. And yeah, just give us inspiration, man. And, you know, you give so much inspiration to us, no matter your outcome, I think, these days. That is, there's a lot of times I want to give up and I'll just think of how you are and I don't do it, you know. And so I just want to say thank you on behalf of, I know not just myself, man.

1:15:55Thank you, man. So we appreciate you, bro. Excited to see what happens next, bro. Yeah, buddy. In all facets, baby. Yeah, we'll see what happens this coming weekend or two weeks away at UFC 300. I think that's going to shake the division up a little bit. and then we'll see what's next. Let's go. Strappy Gilmore. I will fucking punch somebody's fucking step-husband out. Fuck. Dustin Poirier, thank you so much, bro. I'm in. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take For a limited time at McDonald's, get a Big Mac extra value meal for$8.

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