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28:35The alter ego. No, but my brother came up with it, just randomly. Brandon Lane and the Hurricanes, Red Clay Straits. We had the Dirt Leg Trio for a little while when it was just me, Brandon, and John. Yeah, Dirt Leg. The Dirt Leg Trio. We're from South Alabama. We're not good at making up names. Yeah, that one I think is a little bit, that's like a gangrene. That feels more like an infection. Staff, the Staff Boys. The Staff Boys. Something I got from my job, it's like they wouldn't say, you redneck, they'd say, you dirt leg. Dirt leg, that's worse than redneck. What is a dirt leg? And they're like, well, here's a redneck, and then here's a dirt leg.

29:12It's like trashier, worse of a person, you know, steal from you. They're a dirt leg. Damn. We would have somebody call, yeah, we call like a dirt serpent. That's Kid Rock, we call him. I would say, yeah, I'd say Kid Rock falls in that dirt leg category. Yeah. I just described a lot of bad stuff. I know, I'm just joking. No, he's like, yeah, he's more of a dirt serpent. He's like a leader of a club. Yeah, you just had him not tell. Oh, there's a, whoa, he brought up the Urban Dictionary. Dirt leg, a female looking for a quick fuck Who only has enough time to take one pant leg off Now we're wicking from We ain't got those Getting the other pant leg dirty Alright, dirt leg Alright Yeah, they just put that TikTok ban into Yeah, we actually On the way up here, we actually just saw that Were you guys seeing that?

30:04I've seen it on Instagram Yeah, we saw it on the news Let me see, Congress had passed the bill this week as part of a wide-ranging foreign aid package meant to support israel and ukraine it was approved by the house on saturday and by the senate on tuesday and it also had tick tock hidden in is that what i'm saying yeah welcome to our government i know they always be doing that yeah ain't reading that fine print people now we lost it it's gonna suck if it actually goes away though i know man there's gotta be something behind it even our band has grown so much from tick tock you know i don't even be ticking the talk i don't even i'm not even on it it's fun it's dangerous because you can get into a warp zone where you look up and suddenly your family hasn't eaten.

30:43I could see that easily. Somebody scroll on TikTok and then they look up and their children haven't eaten. That's what they need to scroll with, the death scroll. Death scroll. Instagram or TikTok. See, I get all my reels from Instagram and my fiance gets mad because I'm like six months behind. Oh yeah, y 'all are behind over there. I do the YouTube shorts too. That's my death scroll. Oh yeah. I'm getting like eight months, nine months behind. Yeah, you're in hospice. The reason I like TikTok is you can ask him like all of my Instagram stuff is just messed up people we get dark our Instagram reels get dark people getting their motorcycle wrecks and just a lot of crazy stuff that I'm like how is this on Instagram we done screwed our algorithms up but then TikTok it's like well here's how you make a garden in your backyard or here's how you for now until you get on the dark side of TikTok I haven't been on the dark side damn I don't want to get over there don't start searching things what are some things look under some of my links I have a couple of favorites that I've had on there recently here we go right here now this is This is called the oriental short hair.

31:40These are tubular, long and tubular, with rock-hard bodies, tight, close-lying coats. And then they have this super refined... That thing ate a ruler, homie, that thing. Really, really fine. That's a different ethnicity of a cat. Cat got your measuring stick, huh? That thing's out of town. That was a wiener dog at first. Yeah, it is. That's a damn wiener cat. Wiener cat. Wiener cat, dude. You don't want to see our recent searches. Really? It's getting pretty bad? Well, that's one of my faves. I'll go through a couple more. What, the cat videos? Well, yeah, we might as well enjoy TikTok while we got it because we ain't going to have it much longer.

32:19And that's Asian guy walking with turtle, and that's always a beautiful, that's really. You have a very wholesome algorithm. That's like the notebook in Japan, dude, that video right there. It's their notebook. What else do we have? oh look at that oh this guy's a little nativity scene on the go this is like DoorDash nativity scene play it one more time is that all it is yeah it's like 40 bucks the dude pulls up oh it's like those things at the fair does he have like an actual little baby he could start using too for Christmas probably if his wife maybe if he's probably got to ask his wife reminds me of those those booths at the fair you pay like 20 bucks to go see the snake lady oh yeah you walk in it's just like a we just had a carnival worker on and his grandfather was the great lentini and he had three legs and two um penises okay and i thought that was well endowed no that's what people thought at first like damn one of these things needs a shoe on it oh this is real yeah this is a real guy frank lentini right there wow he's got his own wikipedia but wait he said his dad the the carnival worker that we had in named Mitch.

33:30He had a granddaddy. Okay, because that guy was born in 1889. Yeah, this guy. Where is he from? Damn Narnia, probably. That's the stuff you see in the Marvel movies, though, man. Dude, I bet that dude could run a foot race, play soccer. I bet he could climb up walls and stuff. Oh, I bet that dude. That's a modern day Spider-Man. That's what I was going to say. I bet he lives in a web. That would be, yeah. I can't think I have one nude picture of this man. I wonder what his attitude was. You think he had like a temper when getting bar fights and just start kicking people? That's a great call, huh?

34:06It would be crazy if you're standing there talking to him, and then one of his foot just puts a cigarette into his mouth. You know, this is what the UFC is missing right here. It really is. What if you think the weirdos, like the people from Nick, who have like feet things, like they've seen this guy? Oh, on Foot Finder, this guy would have been, yeah. Spokesman. Oh, he would have been the Naomi Campbell of Foot Finder. Four legs, four feet, 16 toes. Come see him, boy. That math ain't mathin', is it? Yeah, it was a different time, different math. Now, didn't they ban all that? 15, he had one extra.

34:38Didn't they ban, like, you can't show yourself off in carnivals and stuff? Like freak shows? Did they ban them? I thought they did. It was considered inhumane. Well, what if you, like, sign yourself up? It didn't matter. They banned it anyway. Freak shows remained popular until the 1940s when public opinion began to shift. throughout the 20th century. Several federal laws made discrimination against people with physical disabilities illegal, and the exhibition of extraordinary bodies was outlawed in some states. Wow. Now that seems a little prejudiced. What I read was the freaks in the freak shows got mad because they were like, this is how we make a living.

35:11Yeah, of course. People pay to look at me, but I don't know how true that was. Well, it's like the Redskins now having to probably change their name back because the natives got mad at them for changing it. Oh, they did now? They got mad at them for changing it? That's what I've read, yeah. They're trying to change it back now? Yeah. Supposedly. Wow, my friend Cliff Kingsbury is coaching up there. It's his first year up there. He's an offensive coordinator. I've graduated college with the safety, Jeremy Reeves. Oh, wow. I did sports medicine in college, so I did some of his rehabilitation. Damn, and is he healthy now?

35:40Yeah. Well, he just came off an injury, but he's good. Damn. Good enough to be playing with the commanders. Which who knows if that's that good. We'll see. We'll see. Remains to be seen. He's getting paid. Yeah, which states outlawed those shows? That's kind of interesting. I wonder if it was like who would do it. I wonder what states would do it, southern states? Well, I wonder if they looked at it as like you're just – It's hard to imagine the political demographic back then in the 40s. I wonder if it's like you're bringing like – you can't really call them special. It's like handicapped people and making a show of them.

36:16But what if they sign up and they want to make the show themselves? Well, they have the same thing type of now where it's, you know, they have like a lot of people with what some people call disabilities have like shows on TikTok or social media channels. Yeah, TLC. Their whole network is based off of people with four necks or whatever, you know, or double, you know. Do you ever watch My Strange Addiction? That was one I watched when I was younger. It'd be like lady drinking gasoline. Oh, yeah. One lady liked to eat toilet paper. Oh, yeah. She ate the foam out the mattress. She was a big one, too.

36:57Ooh. Went straight to her hips. She sure did. Damn, really? Mm-hmm. Dang, boy. Like Squidward with them Krabby Patties. You gotta watch out. Pemperpedic, baby. I like them thickies, baby. I think she ate the springs, too. You'd have to look that one up later. Well, we spoke with a man the other day who ate glass. Was it on the street or was it on the podcast? I can't remember. But yeah, he's had a lot of it. You know? I don't like anything like that. I wouldn't think so. Yeah. With the demise of the carnival, an important slice of American history risk being lost, but the residents of Gibsonton, Florida, are trying to keep the legacy of the town's famous freaks alive.

37:38I think a town of freaks. Yeah. It is Florida. Gibtown was a utopia. Its first settlers, the giant and his wife, the half woman, ran a campsite, a bake shop in the fire department. Wow. That's a whole town of like the freak show. In the golden days of American Carnival, all roads led to Gibsonton, Florida. The self-defined 14 ,900 inhabitant town 12 miles south of Tampa became the industry capital, Carnytown. They must have been next to like one of those power plants. It makes me wonder, though, like, if it became illegal to, like, stare at freaks in a freak show, but it's okay to go watch mentally handicapped people in the Olympics and stuff, why is one acceptable and one's not?

38:27That's a good question. Yeah. Is it just because one's doing sports and the other's just sitting on a couch? Shoot, juggling? I've seen some stuff. You probably see them juggling. Yeah, you would think I would, like. That's a sport. Dude, I think it's like it doesn't even – people with handicaps are more – like if you watch this show with dating under the influence of Down syndrome or whatever, what is it called? Down for Love. I've heard of it. Dating on – I've never watched it, but I've heard of it. It's amazing, right? And it's just like it's people that have disabilities. Some of them are Down syndrome, and they go on first dates, right?

39:04and they start to learn relationships, and they are just as awkward as anybody that doesn't have the disabilities. In fact, sometimes they are better at dating than people that have disabilities because they're a little bit more frank about what's going on. A little more open, a little more bold about it. Yeah, yeah. It's fascinating. That show is fascinating. I was just watching Baby Reindeer. Have you seen that? Mm-mm. We don't watch cable. I don't really have a lot of time to watch TV. Damn, I'm living in damn luxury, man. We ain't got cable. I try to watch stuff on the bus, but I usually just end up falling asleep.

39:42Yeah, that's impossible. What's Baby Reindeer about? Baby Reindeer. It's this guy, Richard Gad is his name, and he writes this. It's amazing. It's like eight episodes or six episodes. It's about he had a stalker, and it goes from there. the setup is is there reindeer involved? it just there's a baby reindeer it looks like a reindeer interesting, that sounds cool you guys have one full album out right? yeah and now you're putting together another album it's put together oh it's done it's ready to come out here in the very near future hopefully by the end of summertime how does that feel? What's that?

40:32Because that's really... I can't wait for people to hear it because it's just a lot better of an album than the first album as far as production goes. Because we recorded it with Dave Cobb. Oh, yeah. Chris Stapleton. He's done all our heroes, yeah. It was always a goal of ours to work with Dave since we very first started. Yeah, there he is. And now how does that come to pass that you guys get to match up with him? does he reach out to you? Do you start to interview a series of producers? No, we actually, at the time, we were looking up studios. So we wanted to go to a studio where the Alabama Shakes recorded their first album.

41:15I think it was called The Bomb Shelter. Here in Nashville. In Nashville. And that was the plan until Brandon Molden, who works with Conway Entertainment, which is where our manager works, made the connection. He reached out to Dave for us, and he was like, hey, we represent this band if you're interested in working with them. And Dave knew who we were. And so he was like, yeah, I'd love to work with them. And then he set up a Zoom call with us and reached out. And we talked to him that day. We were actually on the way to a show. We had to pull over on the side of the road and talk with him. Why, so the van wouldn't make such a noise so you could talk?

41:50Yeah, it was so loud in there. We were like, we stopped for some barbecue, too. So I'm like eating a barbecue sandwich talking to Dave. But there was no service. So we're like walking around trying to keep service during this. Because it's like we're talking to one of our heroes in the middle of Alabama in the middle of nowhere. You're like, these guys, they can't even produce a call. They're not going to make anything. We were probably somewhere in Alabama too. Wow, that had to be a pretty magical moment. Yeah, that was. Didn't know how to feel about it. It was crazy. We don't really like the first record that's out.

42:20I cannot stand to go back and listen to it at all. It was such a cluster making that thing. I like it for what it is. Yeah, for what it is. We'd just gotten out of another record deal that wasn't working for us, and the only way to continue forward was to get out of it. So we finally made it out of that thing, and then just on our own, not knowing what to do, and we go to this guy's studio in Huntsville. Sink every dollar we had. Go in the debt making it, and that's eventually. We were still unhappy with it trying to make it, but eventually we just had to call it quits and say it's done. Was that because of money?

43:01Yeah, money and time. Yeah, we didn't put all this work in this window of time. We opened up for it. So this next one, though, we listen to it every day, I think, and it's incredible. Yeah, I haven't gotten tired of it yet. Yeah, we're ready to put that one out. It should be pretty good. Dang, I can't even. Or the people that hate it, we don't know. I can't even imagine. because when y 'all's music comes on, man, it just feels good. Can we listen? Will you take me through who comes in on Wondering Why like in the beginning, just in the beginning so I know who the different? Because you guys have different band members.

43:33I want to make sure that I get the gist. Can you play it for us by chance? Do you want to do it in the headphones? Can you just play it through the... You can play it through the speaker. We can walk through it. Through the telly. Yeah. What song do you want to listen to? Wondering Why. Yeah, this is right here. Can you just take... I just want to know who comes in when, right? Because it starts off just with you singing. yeah you probably won't hear it but i'm in the right at the second verse okay first verse but i just play bass it's not that big of a deal you know but you come in boom yeah that's it well i go through the court you'll hear it this is matthew recording this that's me doing the

44:14so that's you on the guitar

44:19The old boat paddle. And here comes my big moment. Right here.

44:33One earlier cut used to have finger snaps right here. Ooh, I like that. But who was hitting that cymbal right there? That's John. Okay, that's John. And that's Drew. And there's Drew.

44:47And then it's everybody. That's awesome. And that's Zach in there laying in those backup parts. Or just riding, like fretting that. Does he play a slide on that? No. Is that called fretting? He does this right here. Are you courting or making court? That was Zach. Got it. Yeah, I was just listening the other day and I was wondering, I was like, who's coming in when? Just so I know who's doing what. Yeah, what's the collaboration? collaborating like for an album like do you guys seem to like does it get tough how how is it like battling egos and stuff i guess at this point if you spend that much time in a like in that close of quarters you guys have got it figured out oh we're brothers man yeah we used to we would work up songs and um in the earlier days you know we we would get aggravated if we didn't want to take the song in our direction or my direction or Zach's direction or whatever.

45:49But somewhere along the line, I think we just got to a point where we realized at the end of the day, we all want the same thing, is to make good music. And so we try everything, you know, and there's always a way to make everybody happy as far as making music like that. And we'll try everything, even if we have to play the song for eight or nine hours while while we're working it up, just play it over and over again all these different ways until we find the right way. And there's not really any egos involved with that. Damn. I don't think a lot of bands are like that. At least I wouldn't think so.

46:26So we feel very fortunate to have that relationship. Yeah, I know when I met you guys, when I met you guys, we were in Virginia? Oh, shoot. Charlottesville maybe? You were playing... That's where you brought us out to your show up there. Yeah, you were... Where the heck were we? I don't know. I can't remember. Shoot. I feel like it was Charlottesville. I think it was Charlottesville. It was Charlottesville. But we came at the end and saw a couple of you, got to see a couple of the songs. You wore that goofy Jeff Gordon jacket. Yeah. I didn't believe you were going to show up. Oh, yeah. Thea's probably going to come out.

46:53And I was like, Thea's going to be way too busy to be worried about us. Dude, I had so much fun. Yeah, look, there we are. But y 'all's band, everybody, there was an energy in there. You guys, we all sat in there and just chatted for a little while. But a lot of groups, it's not like that. You'll meet a group of a band sometimes, and it's not the same energy. Dude, we make each other laugh day in and day out. You put the five of us with each other, we can't help but just crack up laughing. Yeah, because our theme song on the podcast was made by a group called Bishop Gun. Did you guys ever hear them?

47:28Yeah, they're not together anymore, but they were from South Mississippi. Yeah, and they really had a great start. They got to open up for the start. That's us watching you. Oh, gang, dude. That's awesome. They had us over their side stage. Oh, wow. We were there for like five minutes, and we were like watching the clock. We had to leave right at a certain time to get back to start our own show. Oh, thanks, man. We didn't want to leave, man. No, it got bad. Did it? We left at a good time. No, it's funny because we don't really listen to much music as a group. When we come on the bus after a show, it's comedy.

48:04Oh, yeah? Yeah, it's Kill Tonys or somebody's stand-up special. Kill Tony's so great We actually saw A couple I guess it was a couple weeks ago We went and saw Shane Gillis invite us out He put us up in the suite and everything And then we got to meet freaking Tony And Jeff Ross Tony was just standing outside smoking a cigarette And we walked up on him That dude's as goofy as you think he is Oh hey guys Had his big old Texas belt buckle You ain't from here well Tony is one of a kind bro his show they have like a hundred thousand people watching it at once when it comes on that's unprecedented in the world I feel like I can't remember how we even discovered it but it's it's a it's a we watch it all the time on the bus it's just about every night after a show Kill Tony's coming on it's incredible I think we're going to a Kill Tony in a couple probably I think next month are you guys gonna head down to Austin?

49:07yeah we're gonna yeah I think Tony invited us out to do a Kill Tony with him really? I'll be there yeah come hang out we're gonna hang out with you it's gonna be a party then I think it's at Rogan's place I'm not mistaken I don't know where to shoot it yeah I'm gonna go down there for a couple weeks and work on some material you gonna be on the panel that night you think? I don't know they asked if we wanted to go on stage and I was like hell no I wanna go watch I don't wanna get on stage you ain't gonna hurt my feelings today yeah those poor guys I've been doing comedy for 13 years and they just get roasted to hell Like, dang.

49:36Yeah, the balls that that takes. Oh, yeah. Because it's so hard to make people laugh in a minute. It would almost be like, hey, guys, in one minute, make me believe that you are a good band. Yeah. You can't do that. It'd be really hard. Yeah. Yeah. You know? I mean, you could do a couple riffs or whatever, but I feel like it'd be really tough. That and comedy is just something I don't understand how to make. Yeah. I like sitting there watching it and wondering where a joke's going to go, and then the punchline comes in. and just makes you roll while you're laughing. I can't do that. So I wouldn't want to go on Kill Tony just for that reason.

50:14I'd be up there just playing a band. I told Brandon, if he ever goes on, you just got to go up there and sing for a minute. That's what you got to do, bro. You just lean hard into it. Yeah, lean into what you do best, brother. If they invite you to bring potatoes, bring potatoes, dude. It's just that being a comedian seems, man, It's like we have music to hide behind, and we have the five of us up – or six of us up there to hide behind. And we have each other. Like watching – especially watching you and Shane, it's like you're up there by yourself, man. You're out in the abyss. That's what's so fascinating about it.

50:46You're floating around hoping people laugh or get what they paid for. We couldn't do it with – I think the hardest thing I think to do is that improv where people are working with other people. That's the thing to me that seems like it's really the toughest. I that's where I like I've tried to take improv classes and stuff and I was not good at it in Los Angeles you weren't good at improv it was so hard man it was like cause it's just you're so used as a comedian you're so used to just yeah I was just so used to like controlling things myself you know that I would just I don't know it was hard to do it with somebody else I guess to trust that somebody else it was gonna work well you know it's kind of that probably chemistry too though yeah there's a surreal moment for even us it's like it's hard to believe that people are coming to see you do what you do oh it's crazy and it doesn't feel right one time I was stuck in traffic we were coming back from the YMCA from working out for a show and I was like man what the fuck dude this fucking town and it was traffic from out coming to you yeah and the driver goes dude these people are going to see you oh no I was like oh shit man you're complaining about the traffic See, that's when we...

51:58These people are awesome, dude. That's one of our goals when you've made it, is when you can shut down the damn freeway outside of the arena, that's when you've made it. That's how we felt pulling up to your show with all that traffic. Dude, it was like, are we even going to have time to get in? We're like sitting in traffic. We get out and just start walking. The Uber's just like, we'll just get out here. And we just started walking down the sidewalk. Literally the red clay strays, dude. You guys are just wandering around. Yeah. I think we're in a cool spot right now to where it's like, we definitely get noticed a lot now, but it's still hit or miss in some places.

52:29Especially if I wear a hat. It's like an imposter syndrome for us too. It just doesn't make sense to us why people like what we don't feel. I mean, we feel what we do is half-assed mediocre, you know? It's just like you could go spend your time and money on a lot better things. Well, people, but even talking to me about the number of shows you guys did last year, I mean, the only person I've heard talk that's done that many shows was Laney Wilson last year did a lot of shows. I mean, she was, you know, I saw her at the end of the year and I was like, man, she is gone. It just hasn't ended, you know?

53:05You have to, I think that's where you, you know, I think that's where the boys and the men are separated. It's not about being the best. It's not about, it's about literally just going and doing it. If you can stick through it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, resiliency for sure. And then I think like even with Bishop Gunn, they had like addiction, they had like some addiction issues in the bank, like that kind of stuff tore them, you know? Oh yeah. I mean, we've seen that not with ourselves, but it's so easy being on the road, how you can, I mean, you probably see it with comedy, how you can easily turn to those things.

53:35Oh yeah. It's a dark hole. You don't want to go down. It's ain't the seventies no more. Yeah. It's not the seventies anymore. And the whole sex, drugs and rock and roll thing is kind of a, you know, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, um, like a thing in the past? It's like a stereotype. Everybody from the outside looking in, they think that's what it's like, and it's not really like that anymore. Yeah. And we've always made it clear, like, you know, everybody has their struggles in whatever you're going to do, but don't let it get in the way of this. You know what I mean? If you're struggling with alcohol, not to say that any of us do, but just in the sense of if you are struggling with something, stay sober for an hour and a half a night to play the show.

54:19these people pay money and they take their time out of their day or they're scheduled to come see you and you're going to get on stage too messed up to perform that's not cool with me or not cool with any of us so it's always been a strict rule with us like we were talking earlier us five are so close to each other we're like brothers when somebody slips a pack corrects and we've all gotten our ass chewed after a show or two that's pretty fortunate then that you guys are able to have that symbiosis or whatever within your group. We want the best for each other, and we all love each other very much.

54:52We all recognize that we're doing something bigger than ourselves. If you're worrying about yourself and what you want to do or how you've been done wrong, then you're going to find all kinds of excuses to get mad or to quit or to argue or fight with somebody. But if you keep it selfless instead of selfish, that's where you can find fulfillment and the strength to keep going, I guess. Yeah. And I think a part of that was our come up, meeting some of our heroes and realizing these guys are not cool. And that's how we don't want to ever treat other people or treat our own crew, let alone each other.

55:32Yeah, just seeing that kind of stuff on different festivals or different things like that. Yeah, yeah. You run into something. And we've met some people that you think would be douchebags and they're cool as hell. Yeah. And that's always cool. It's like meeting you. you could have been an asshole to us, you know? Yeah. You kind of were, but that's okay. We're here, you know? I had to be, I guess. What did I do? Something bad? No, that's fine. Oh. You wore that Jeff Gordon jacket. That was problem one. That'll turn some people off, man. I made you take it off. I gotta pee really fast, guys. You gotta pee?

56:01I gotta pee. I gotta pee. You remember the first song you ever heard? I remember the first song. Sorry, I'm a little out of breath going up those stairs. The first song I remember singing was a song by Tracy Bird called We're From the Country and We Like It That Way. Everybody knows everybody. Everybody calls your friend. Yeah, that was a good song, huh? Don't need an invitation. Kick off your shoes and come on in. Yeah. Know how to work and we know how to play. We're from the country and we like it that way. How old were you when you sang? I had to be probably four or five years old And were you singing to the family?

56:47Were you performing for someone? Or were you just sitting somewhere just singing that? I've always My mama told me Even before I could talk I'd walk around just going Already on the vocal warm-ups Okay, so But I've always Been a songbird, I guess I remember having the little radio Off of Toy Story The microphone and I was just dragging the radio around and it took a cassette tape and so I'd have the Tracy Bird cassette tape in there and just Oh dude, gosh that just brought back some memories Yeah, the one I had That looks like Sketch who was just on here Oh my god Maybe that's what he bases it off of What's up brother?

57:33That's unbelievable Yeah, what's up? You gotta send him one Oh yeah, we've gotta send him one Will you write that down, Ben? Okay. Yeah. What was that sound you made again? Nee, nah, nee, nah. It reminds me of Squid Games kind of. I did not like that show. You didn't? No, it freaked me out a little bit. I'm a grown man. A lot of, yeah. I don't, look. Yeah. I got some Japanese friends and they're prone to violence at times, you know? Really? I could see that. Oh, they liked, yeah. Yeah, they're really, because they keep a lot of their feelings in. And so the only, they. Well, that's like the way of the ninja though, right?

58:15Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. They just busted a dude with a samurai sword out there grilling meat. Where was that at? Sounds like Florida. Samurai sword and grilling meat. Yeah, this man, man grilling and shopping cart used sword askewer arrested near Santa Monica. Well, he didn't try to stab nobody. That's what I'm saying. This guy is video from the Citizen app captured the wild scene before 3 p.m. on Sunday. The man is seen dragging a shopping cart through a bike lane. That looks like California. The main compartment of the cart is filled with flaming wood while the man uses a sword as a skewer to hold meat over the flames.

58:52Here's the thing. You can't – if you have so many people who are without homes, right, they're going to start to open up barbacoas or whatever this is called. You know, they're going to start to open up haircutting. I get my haircut when I'm in L.A. by a guy who is a street man. A street man. But he makes a living cutting hair. He makes a living cutting hair. This dude, Dreamer, he's Native American, actually. That right there, that's a food truck, a food cart, but same concept. It's the same concept. And, yeah, sure, maybe it's FDA approved, maybe it's not. People, it's still society. They're still going to start a civilized, you know what I'm saying?

59:31like everybody's going to start a civilization. And so. If they don't have money to pay permits for food trucks or whatever else, they're just going to. That machete is that man's permit. Yeah, they're going to resort to whatever they can. They're going to figure out. And I think we got to put more swords on the streets. I bet that's some of the best barbecue you probably ever had too. Oh. Samurai sword. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Willie's Samurai barbecue. What do you think that meat is? He probably did not buy that at the grocery store. Damn, dude. I think that's damn. He's got some of them Cali raccoons.

1:00:02I don't know what they got out there. Oh, I think that's probably brazed human, bro. Oh, shit. Who knows? You don't know when you're getting it out of a shopping cart. No. Dude, it's, look, obviously. And here's the thing. A shopping cart will make you think that it is. Grocery store quality. Yep. So really, the guy's got a great concept. Really, it's a grocery store manager quality. Where does some of you guys' influence come with music? What are you guys listening to right now? What am I listening to right now? I've been listening to Lake Street Dive a lot lately. We just saw them at Moon Crush.

1:00:35Really? They're incredible. Lake Street Dive, you never heard of them? Uh-uh. Oh, they're incredible. Put me on, put me on. Always been a huge fan of them, and then seeing them live just kind of reignited that. So I've just been on a Lake Street Dive kick for the last few days. Our listeners... Her vocals are just insane. I love that organ player, man, when he sings. I mean they're like it's like the 70s modern day 70s music right there it is incredible especially live yeah really really good Lake Street Dive I got obsessed with like trying to do vibrato because I can't do it couldn't do it at all but now I can kind of do it but she was one of the ones that I would listen to trying to figure that out how to do that with your voice still can't do it that well but yeah try my best so a singer will learn different tricks from other singers kind of or not tricks or just manipulations or ways to perform kind of i just learned by listening if i listen to lake streak dive or listen to waylon or whatever i'm listening to long enough i'll start to kind of mimic that on stage a little bit so how i sing at whatever show i'm at depends on what i've been listening to for the past few days i guess yeah i think There's something about that about being an entertainer.

1:01:59Part of you, especially if you're staying open to things, you're going to be kind of a sponge in a way. You may, if you've been absorbing one thing, then the next time you perform, there could be some of that just in your energy. You want to be kind of a conduit for good energy. And a lot of creativity and music, art is good energy usually. Do you see that in comedy at all? Yep. If you watch too much of one guy, you kind of start taking that personality on. Oh, I'll watch some Chris Rock, and I'll go out there and be like, here's a hell of a fucking guy. That is, that is. This guy loves Chris Rock.

1:02:38So yeah, that'll happen. Oh, every comedian, when they started out, at my time, everybody started just like Mitch Hedberg. All the people that were booking clubs, all the bookers were like, yeah, everybody right now sounds like Mitch Hedberg. it's just because he's so popular right now. So I think there's a lot of that that happens. That's the guy who yells, right? He would be like, no, that was... Who am I thinking of? Oh, you're thinking of... He died a long time ago. Yep, you're thinking of Sam... I like this game. No, it's fun. Sam... Don't ruin it, man. Kenison. Yeah, Kenison. Sam Kenison.

1:03:17That guy was hilarious, too. Well, he had a crazy story with this guy, Carl LeBove. Can you bring this up? so carl lebow r.i.p to him too he passed away really funny sweet guy um i never knew sam or met him but they had a one of them had a daughter can you bring it up let me see The late comedian Sam Kennison left his friend and fellow comedian quite a belated surprise. Carl LeBeau says that Sam was the real father of the daughter he thought was his. Oh, no. Whoa. We heard about it on the Joy Bihar show where LeBeau said he found out that Sam was the father after Sam died. So, yeah, Carl had raised her her whole life and then found out that Sam was the father.

1:04:05I was devastated. This is with his wife? Yeah. So I think there was a rumor that the child was conceived while he was on stage one time. Wow. That is some disrespect. Yeah. I mean, there's craft services and then there's craft services. I was devastated. Carl said we're talking about at the same time of 14 year friendship. We started out together. So we had survived living on the streets. You know what it's like to start on comedy. I mean, we stole fruit from the bars at night just to eat and slept in my car. And we survived for a very long time. And then with the Rodney Dangerfield special, it changed our lives.

1:04:38And of course, Sam became huge. And I was the head writer and his best friend. We never lived more than a mile apart. Wow. Then he slept with his wife. Yep, and he was sleeping with his wife. That's crazy. Yeah, what does it say happened? You can say best friend and do that. I know. That's what's wild. So I called my ex to explain to her that I was having a tough time, and that's when she told me that Sam had fathered my child. Wow. Huh. Yeah. That's crazy. Carl Leboe had not been able to legally establish that Sam Kinnison was the child's father in court, because all the blood tests proved that she was related to the Kinnison family.

1:05:13Now with the DNA test, he has definitive proof that Sam was the father. Wow, that had to be so wild. I wonder what his thoughts were. It's like because his best friend died. And so that's normally something you would be mad about, him sleeping with your wife. But at the same time, it's like he left you a little part of himself to raise. I don't know. It's almost a story out of the Bible almost, it seems like, in a way. Yeah. In a way of like, maybe not out of the Bible, It's like one of those Aesop's fables or something, something where you learn a lesson learning story. Because that'd be crazy.

1:05:48You would hate him. You'd be angry at the wife, but then you'd also have something that you cared about for so long. So he didn't learn that until the death? He didn't learn it until way after the death. Yeah, I think the daughter... You have to look at that child a little different, too. That's not your blood anymore. I know. I wonder if that starts to happen inside of you. But you also had that connection like an adopted child. Right. And that probably wouldn't disappear, I think. I've seen mixed emotions from different videos. Like some men are like, it doesn't matter. That's my kid. I don't care.

1:06:22And then some men are like, well, that's not my kid anymore. I don't know how I'd feel in that situation. Yeah. Yeah. One guy I saw was playing hit the road jack on his phone after he found out. Really? So he was like pretty excited. Yeah. Definitely depends on the man, I guess. That dude was out of here. Yeah. What else have I been listening to? Yeah. That and comedy. Steven Wilson Jr. I listen to Eddie Ninevold I listen to him Eddie Ninevold Yeah bro They're a vibe Oh yeah I'm on the come up We got a band called The Moss opening for us On the west coast I think they're out of Salt Lake It's a little more indie rock Not so much I don't know if you're into that You're west coast aren't you Yeah, I would listen to anything.

1:07:11A lot of times I need people to tell me what to listen to. A good one that they're no longer a band anymore. Yeah, The Moss. Yeah. J. Roddy Walston and the Business. Oh, yeah. That's some groovy stuff too. That's like some good rock and roll music. Yeah. Yeah, all the albums they put out. Did they put out two or three? Oh, I couldn't tell you. You introduced them to me. J. Roddy Walston and the Business, baby. I like that. That's some cool stuff. I don't know if you ever listen to Alabama Shakes. Yeah, I hate that they're not a band anymore. That's one that we looked up to. What happened to them?

1:07:46Well, I think there's some, we read some dark stuff about one of the members in the band, and I think that probably led to the downfall. I don't know how true that was. Yeah, we don't know if it's true, but I think they were a band like we are that started together. A lot of bands nowadays are built around a star or a singer, and I think they were one that started together and ended up breaking up together. More of a constellation. yeah wow yeah what happened in 2018 the band went on hiatus due to Howard's focus on her solo project Jamie yeah she's done a bunch of stuff after that which led to a solo tour in 2019 Howard released her second solo album 2024 in June 2020 guitarist Heath Fogg released his debut solo project under the name Sun yeah I'm not familiar with any of that but Alabama Shakes was incredible and was that all the members of Alabama Shakes?

1:08:34what's that? those people right there? Some of them. Okay. That's part of the band. So some of them, they obviously just, some of them went their own separate ways. Something must have happened and then went their own separate ways. Yeah, or she wanted to do her solo stuff, which is, that happens. That sounds like it. Man, that's the scary part, you know? Well, that's what's interesting about the ego. The ego, you don't know how it's going to grow. It grows like a moss, man. I could see myself doing solo stuff one day, but I'm not going to quit Red Clay Strays. You know what I mean? Yeah, hers was more of a quit.

1:09:01Yeah. Never came back to it. Like that band Need to Breathe. You know who I'm talking about? that's another one to listen to Ben knows their lead singer does a project called Wilder Woods and he goes and does Wilder Woods stuff and he still does Need to Breathe stuff this is just if I ever get extra time on my hands and just want to start other projects I can see myself doing it but definitely wouldn't Need to Breathe Brandon actually showed me them too that's I would say have a pretty similar we have a similar sound to them I would say I grew up listening to them. That's definitely somebody that I started trying to mimic, like learning how to sing.

1:09:42You've got a very powerful, loud voice, and that's how I started singing everything. It was very powerful and very loud. And then getting into, I guess, diving deeper into it, starting to learn technique and how to use your voice and stuff, and then I wanted to learn how to sing like opera singers with vibrato and stuff. So it just depends on who I'm listening to. And would you sing? So after you was rattling around the house, mimicking and learning some, you know, and running your pipes, you know, like did you start to sing in church or what is that like? Like where'd you're singing kind of? Yeah, I started singing.

1:10:21How'd you start to sing? Yeah, where'd you start singing at? Oh, yeah, that was the first place I ever sang in front of a crowd was at church. Yeah. Yeah, I started playing drums in church. when I was like 12. That's a dangerous move usually. Did they put you in that little shed or whatever behind that thing? No, I hate those things. I do too. Yeah, usually the church always puts that guy back there behind that little aquarium. It depends on the church you go to. Now, the ones that Brandon was in, they're in there joking. It's not contemporary. All the churches are moving that way where they want to shield everything and have all of the actual sounds of the instruments coming through the PA system, and it's like, I want to feel the sound waves, man.

1:11:00That's how it used to be. I want to go out, just let the drummer play, let the guitar player play. Oh, I want to get hit by a damn drumstick in there. Yeah. That's how you get into it. I actually had to go to, it was Brandon was playing in the church, and John, our drummer, John was playing drums in the church. This was probably four or five years ago, and I grew up in a Catholic church, and you walk in with a tie on, and the organ's playing, and the congregation's singing, and I come in there, and they are in there throwing down. I thought it was a WWE match I had to bring John's snare drum he asked me to bring his drum and I'm like in shorts I didn't know what I was coming to it's such a wild different environment but you feel the Holy Spirit moving in a bunch of different ways so there's a lot of energy in there that's why I've always liked Pentecostal?

1:11:47I'm more non-nominational because I don't really the Baptist, the Pentecostal, the Catholic this is all preference based in my opinion but I do like a Pentecostal church because I zone out so easily and I'll lose attention. And if I got somebody up there screaming at me and stomping his feet and getting into it like a performance pretty much, it keeps my attention. I love that. And my pastor, he was like 72 at the time. He'd be running across the pews, running over the top of them and just feeling it, man. Wow. It's just something that keeps your attention the whole time. Yeah, do you think that's had an effect on how you perform kind of?

1:12:24Yeah, I'd say so. The church he's talking about is where I was going as an adult. The church I grew up in was more of a – still a Pentecostal church, but it was more of a smaller building, and a lot of older people were there, and just an old country, southern country church, I guess. It wasn't a lot of energy until I started playing drums there. Brandon brought the Holy Spirit back in there. Did that change the vibe in there a little? Yeah, it was literally just – at the time, it was literally just the pasture with no amp or anything, just playing his acoustics, singing hymnals. And then I started playing drums, and then they had a keyboard player.

1:13:02And I guess I started doing that around when I was like 12 and played in there all the way up through high school before I started going on the road and being gone all the time. Yeah, man, that church, especially if you've got a church that's got a feeling in it. That's why I remember the first time I went to black churches, man, and them things were different. I've been looking for a good black church. I see a lot of similarity in the church like Brandon's talking about. They're in there getting down. The preacher's up there really preaching and throwing energy into it. The music's bumping and jiving.

1:13:38Oh, yeah. That's what they do. Yeah, I love that. There's definitely something. Even if you look at Tony Robbins, he jumps on his trampoline before he goes on stage. Get that adrenaline going. Yeah, to get just his, like, I think he says it's to get, like, the lymph in his body, like, basically just to get the, it's like shaking the snow globe, baby. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You want some weather, you just want nothing, you know? So you got to start your own weather a lot of times, you know? Hop on that trampoline. And a lot of times the Holy Spirit or whatever, that feeling you get, I feel that a lot on stage, and that's what I project a lot of times, singing.

1:14:18and just to see that in a pastor, feeling that passion to make him raise his voice or to make him stomp his foot. He's up there in the moment. He's feeling it, and that just keeps you drawn in the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, man, I need to find some good churches that have stuff like that. That's the South, I think, and just in general with churches. I would love to one day maybe end up in a road like that. There's some moments on stage where I feel a little bit like a pastor. Is that weird to say that? Well, I mean, you're up there with a microphone. I wouldn't say so. Yeah, yeah. I don't feel like in the sense that I'm like some - Like a spiritual leader.

1:14:55Right, no. But I do feel that in a sense like, oh, I wonder if there's part of me that has this calling a little bit. That's what it is. It's like a little bit of energy goes through me and like, it's even a moment where it's when I'm talking about God in this one bit and I'm like, I wonder why does this bit stand out to me so much? You know, or I wonder - That could be the Holy Spirit talking to you. Yeah. At least whispering. At least whispering. I think God gives you a platform, and it's a constant tradeoff. God raises you up and gives you a platform, and then you turn around and give it back to God and raise him up, and then he raises you up, and that's just the way I've always looked at it.

1:15:33God gives you talents. He gives you drives to do things. He gives you a platform, and you can either make it about yourself or turn around and give the glory back to God. And it's just that constant tradeoff that's always going on. Wow, I never really, yeah, that's a great way to say that, man. Like, yeah, it's like volleying with tennis kind of. It's like love, love, love, love, you know? Yeah. Huh. That's fascinating, man. Do you have a pretty good faith? And is it just that has a pretty strong faith, Brandon? Does a lot of your band members, or is it a church-going group? We're definitely not a church-going group, but, yeah, we're all pretty faith-based.

1:16:16Yeah, especially the five core of it. We all come from different religious backgrounds with it, too. Like I said, I'm Catholic. Drew's Methodist. Brandon grew up Pentecostal. John, I don't know where he came from. Southern Baptist. Southern Baptist, yeah. Wow, yeah. So we actually, I mean, we've had a lot of late. Through the portal then. Yeah. And it's like none of us are fighting to live like a Baptist or to live like a Catholic. No, no, no. We all grew up that way. We have some great conversations, though. The goal is to do what God put you here to do. That goes back to not making it about yourself.

1:16:51It's something bigger is going on than just yourself. And so I think that's another big reason why we haven't broken up or anything, even when we do disagree or get in fights or whatever. The goal doesn't change. There's still something bigger going on. Yeah. But to get everybody to believe that, that's hard to do. Because some people can believe something. You know, two out of five people sometimes be like, yes, this is how I believe. And this is how I'm going to behave based on that belief that there is something bigger than us going on. Yeah. And to really get all five, it's that's that's pretty miraculous.

1:17:29Yeah. I think. And it's not like I mean, like our even our whole road crew are built of you got Christians. We got atheists. It's it's it's just like we have a common goal and it could be something different for that other guy. but we know it's something bigger than ourselves. Yeah. And I know if somebody doesn't believe, it's not my job to save them. You know what I mean? I'm not going to, I'm not out trying to preach to anybody or convert anybody or anything like that. I'm simply just singing songs. And if you like it, if you like the message and if you like what we do, then listen. And I don't care what you believe or anything like that.

1:18:04Yeah. Oh, I'm not the Lord's EMT. That's what I say. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Best thing you can do is pray for them, man. That's power in prayer. Yeah. I'll follow the ambulance, but I ain't the Lord's EMT. You get right behind and get through traffic. I used to do that when I was younger. I tucked behind that thing. Yeah. We used the Lord to skirt through traffic. Yeah, he's lead blocking for me right through rush hour. Amen, bro. I used to love to try to look in that back window and see what they're doing in there. Oh, yeah. They should put on the outside what's going on. Oh, well, I like how they leave the lights on.

1:18:35You can see them in there working on somebody. Yeah, it's almost like – It's kind of eerie, though, when you see an ambulance with lights but no siren. sirens like oh that guy's dead in there more than likely they're just driving to the hospital well it's almost like do they say is it cheaper not to do the sirens i wonder at that point it's like oh this guy's dead or just run up the bill this guy's dead like yeah like does that siren cost you a little extra do they got insurance you go the whole thing they're gonna they don't take you you ain't got no insurance you're sitting in traffic we'll get you there buddy but it's you gonna save about 500 they should have a second level of ambulance for people that don't don't want to pay the high premiums of regular ambulances because how much does it cost for an ambulance to come get you oh you already had it with insurance the average out-of-pocket cost for an ambulance ride is 450 so that's like an uber black from probably across town at least oh yeah you could get you could probably get from lebanon to here 450 black maybe that's true i don't know that's decent rise but uh you might be able to get to chattanooga in a regular uber in a regular uber yeah but that's a long ride yeah they should have that secondary market like hey i don't know i'm hurt i don't you know i'm not gonna die get me over you know i'm saying like get maybe a thing of narcan in the door in the door i see if like uber could do something for you uber emergency uber emergency uber e uber e uber e it's a little more expensive they'll drive like a maniac you maybe get a little yellow light or something yeah yeah nothing crazy just something that's like if Somebody who delivers mail in a rural community, they would put that little orange item on top of the car.

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1:24:58Yeah. I started playing music right out of high school. Really? Yeah, he was actually in college a while while we played music, and he'd have to make deals with his professors to come back and take tests and stuff because we'd be out on the road. Yeah, our first tour, I was like a sophomore, and I went to my advisor. I was like, look, I need two weeks. Like I'm gonna do it Regardless Please let me make my work up Cause I Wanna go to school Yeah And what college was it at? South Alabama University of South Alabama USA huh? USA Red, white, and blue South in your mouth That's what they That's their mascot?

1:25:32Oh yeah Oh my god The mascot's a Jaguar Yeah but it's the The motto is South in your mouth Yeah Y 'all beat that SEC team one time? It was Mississippi State I was on the sideline for that one Really y 'all beat State? Yeah we celebrated Like it was the Super Bowl Oh god We came into the house. They missed a field goal to win the game, and we rushed the field too early. We had to come back. Rushed the field too early. They were still probably at three quarters to play. They missed a field goal. We out there celebrating on the logo. It ain't even halftime. South in your mouth. South in your mouth.

1:26:05South in your mouth, dude. What is this right here? Oh, British man has the largest penis in the United Kingdom. That's not a lot of people in that country, just to say. Yeah. In the US it's almost 400 million. This is in the news. What do we got here? It's about as big as Rhode Island. It can be a nightmare, is that right? Yes, I think people have... It's a very insalubrious topic to bring up, so I think people have learnt a lot of myths from pornography and stuff. I'm well endowed. The implications that it would have when you're actually living the situation. You gotta get that. When did you first realise that perhaps you had a little bit more in a sports team.

1:26:47Classmates? I mean, predictably, it was in one of his hours at school. That's what everyone has the first. This dude looks like a creep. Yeah, this guy, first of all, this guy seems like a trap. I bet this guy does not have the biggest wiener. He just is saying that, which is a great thing to say. And then you surprise somebody with a basic wiener, but the man saying you're classmates, how do you know? When you're like, hey, let me borrow a ruler, and you're like, oh, never mind, actually. I got it under control. Yeah, he That's a creepy situation. He looks like a school teacher. Yeah. Why would you go on the news about that, though?

1:27:21Dude, I think the... That's a great point. That's a lot of ego right there. What's the UK got going on? Let me take this wiener for a walk, you know? I'm going to be on the morning news. Yeah, dude, how'd they find out? Is he posting about it? He told. Who's he telling? Nobody's emailing the news like, in the park yesterday, you know? Nobody's ever asked him to prove it, though. He's just going off word of mouth. Yeah, that guy should definitely have to show up every year at a certain meetup. Oh, never mind. They brought the ruler out, man. That man is posed with a ruler. Oh, where's he going right there naked?

1:27:58Look at that look on his face and that bottom one. Why he won't get size reduction surgery despite all the downsides. See if you can find out what the downsides are. Just look real quick. Let's see. Because this is something. Because, yeah, a lot of times this is one of those things where you think a lot of things are going to be great and then they're not. The reality of it, you know? I'm surprised this is the news over there. Yeah, what are they doing in the UK? You're going soon, aren't you? Yeah, we're going to go over there. This is it, I guess. You're going to have to bring him to a show, bro.

1:28:27Talk about yourself. I'm going to have to bring this guy on stage. Yeah, is it something about Cambridge? Where did he say he was? Yeah, Ben Shepard is his name. Yeah, does it say anything that he says is the problems? Oh, to get a reduction would cost$15 ,000. Yeah, I guess your insurance. I don't know. They got insurance in the UK. I don't know how it works. He could start a GoFundMe. That's true, huh? And just keep the money. Oh, that'd be the craziest thing. And then he would just have the money and the... And the wiener. We had a guy that did a GoFundMe or whatever, and he was supposed to die or whatever, and he didn't die, and people were all pissed when they saw him.

1:29:01I would imagine. That's a letdown. That's a scam. Yeah. People were like, what's up, Ron? Thought you were dead. Thought you were gonna die. Where's my 20 bucks, man? Yeah, bro, huh? all right pay me back yeah let's see that cash um i would hate it it would be cool probably in college but even then it would be listen to us hating on it i'd hate it no it's not even fun don't want it i just wouldn't want to be known for that it almost go back to being like one of those circus guys you know yeah come see wiener baby or whatever hey getting paid's getting paid man yeah i'll come see mr watch wearer or whatever they call it that guy's pretty much the new three legged gentleman over here.

1:29:43That's Franklin Teenie. Come see the snake lady. That was, I wanted my one dollar I paid back after I saw that. I saw Tom Thumb, world's smallest horse once. It was enjoyable. Was it a small horse? God, it was so little. I mean, dude, it was this big, brother. You think there's like an inbreeding to make them that size? It looked like it, it looked like it wouldn't go to regular school, I'll say that. When I looked in its eyes. But it was this big, man. You could tell. He rode the short trailer. The short trailer. Did it still stand up on its own? A little bit. It tried to. Oh, man. We out here making fun of that horse.

1:30:20I thought it was a pig that they glued some hair on. That horse got issues, man. We ain't here bullying that poor horse. Look at him. Look, man. That horse is on the road. It's probably opening up for a... Look at what? Look at it. For a no-humped camel. That horse is doing fine. You got the Budweiser horses. I paid, I think, probably$2. $280 to see it. Horses can do it. Why can't people do it? That's a good point. That's a great point, huh? Yeah. Let people take the show on the road, man. Well, that's the thing. We're getting to a point where it's like little things are going to start to start up, and a man's going to be his own little homeless salt bay or whatever and making meats out of his cart.

1:31:03Yeah, everything's going to have to be financed. People are having a tough time. Everything becomes for sale. yeah I mean everybody's like moving into tiny homes and yeah they're gonna start starting these little villages have a little doctor and a dentist and a makeshift trading station yeah and we have an end of the world plan and sometimes I just wish it happened sounds fun you guys have a plan a little bit I can't talk about it because I tell you where we're at but we all got little jobs already set up we got land picked out that's good sometimes I just think that'd be kind of fun. Well, you'd be a, yeah, at least you would have a skill too.

1:31:39You'd have a band skill. Oh, we're going to be hunting and gathering. Yeah. There ain't going to be no more time for music. When he's got Native American in him. Yeah, I can track the buffalo. We grow the crops. Yeah. We're tracking the buffalo, man. We ain't got buffalo in Alabama. You don't know what's going to happen? You don't know what's going to happen. We got something down there. I don't know, dude. I've been outside of some. Some Alabama buffalo. What, Do you guys go on tour with the new band now Or is it just your tour now Is there a point where you Don't open for other bands It's just our shows now And they keep selling out So we keep having to move to bigger venues Because people are getting pissed about it But we are actually opening up for the Rolling Stones On May the 30th So that's going to be cool That one's pretty exciting Where's that at?

1:32:26It's on Gillette Stadium in Foxborough Wow That one actually just just hit us uh last week so things like that are pop kind of popping up all the time now yeah it's pretty cool because uh mick jagger allegedly has to approve all of the openers so he approved us i think we get to take a picture with them too i'm not sure but the rules are we're kind of at a point now where we're i hate to say too big but there's a point where you can't open for people and there's now we're in this weird state of trying to get people to open for us there's a you gotta it's like a juggling act of figuring that out yeah what bands are big or that can open for you and what bands are we able to open up for which really be like the foo fighters and chris stapleton or something at this point and so we only got to really do it a couple times with especially with l we did a whole tour with her like 40 days she's the only one she was the first one that took us out like that uh-huh and the only one we've never done it with anybody else that's awesome yeah her um her i saw her perform during covid here in nashville really i haven't been to one of her shows i gotta go check her out yeah she's cool she's good it's a good show yeah people love her um was there a moment where you guys kind of felt like dang we really got a real shot like or we're kind of making it like what does this look like was there like one moment where you guys all just maybe walked into a place and sat down and then you like looked at each other and you're like damn are we like making it are we doing yeah yeah because it's a weird thing but it's a real thing that happens we have little moments like that like when we first got on the tour bus and got off i can imagine that getting that pre-post getting driven around in a pre-post uh selling We sold out three days at the Ryman in like four hours, and that was really cool too.

1:34:21And those were in September. Is that the ones coming up in September? That was a moment like, because we had a good feeling we'd sell one. And then it was like, okay, the second one, we got to throw it up right now, like within the hour. And then it's like, we got a third one. We probably could have done five nights. And then the manager was like, hey, pick an opener right now for a third night. We're doing it. Okay, let me see. We got to throw it up in 30 minutes. I'd say that's a moment. And we got some big shows coming up this fall that are going to be kind of one of those moments like, I don't know specifically, but those rooms are getting bigger.

1:34:54Yeah. Yeah, do you pick openers together like that as a group? Yeah, we pick all our openers. I mainly let Drew and Andrew, y 'all do a really good job at picking them. Yeah. We just kind of find music we like and send it to the agents and, hey, what they cost. Can we get them? we have we have friends too like uh uh taylor honeycutt she's from montgomery and she's she's got started about the same time we did and she's on the up climb as well and uh so we she's actually on one of our rhyming shows taylor honeycutt this is great man it's going to give me a lot of good stuff to listen to yeah oh uh belgian man whose body makes its own alcohol cleared of drunk driving Yeah, I've heard about this before.

1:35:40It's a syndrome where your - Sounds like alcoholism. Yeah, it does, yeah. But it's where your body makes booze. Let me see. A Belgian man has been acquitted of drunk driving because he has auto brewery syndrome, a rare condition whereby the body produces alcohol, his lawyer said. Wow. People are not born with ABS, but can develop it when they already have another intestine-related condition. patients can present with symptoms consistent with alcohol intoxication such as slurred speech, stumbling, loss of motor. So he's like always buzzed. Yeah, that's not similar. He's just always drunk. That's gotta be crazy though if you just...

1:36:18To not have to drink anything but you're always buzzed. Yeah, people are like, damn. How does that happen? Does he have to put like fruit juice in and get some hooch out? I don't know. Like Randy's burping, y 'all. It's gonna be a... Yeah. Don't let him drink that apple juice. Yeah, pull over, baby. He's peeing liquor at that point. Don't let him drive, man. I have a hard time believing. That sounds like some European stuff. Auto-brewery syndrome or gut fermentation syndrome is a condition in which ethanol is produced through the endogenous fermentation by fungi or bacteria in the gastrointestinal system, oral cavity or urinary system.

1:36:56Dang, so you can make your own that body wine, baby. So does that come with the problem of drinking too much alcohol, too? I don't know. Are you literally an alcoholic? I guess just by standing around. What happens if he gives blood? Shoot, I don't know. I'll take a pint, though. Yeah, dude. I'll take two pints, dude. Hook that man up. What else? Any other news we got? I did see they had, what was that? Oh, they had that dog that, did you see this? it's like look it up it's a dog yeah yeah this is it Therminator Throw Flame unveils robot dog Therminator with flamethrower attached the Ohio based happening $9 ,400 look at this dog you can own $9 ,400 that's the Boston Dynamics dog yeah dude that's like Elon Musk when you put those flamethrowers out except you can have it hooked to a robot $9 ,400 look at that Elon Musk get fired that's like a nice that's a decent used car price right there.

1:38:00You could have that 2008 Durango out there. What do you need that for? What's the purpose of that dog with a flamethrower? Burn stuff. Yeah, light a cigarette probably. Burn a trash pile. Dude. Or cook up some damn catfish, dude. I'll tell you this, that thing will grill up a tilapia, homie. Man. Bro, that thing could be a waiter for that homeless guy with that cart. We're going to start seeing some crimes. Like, what if this is... That guy who, like, just set himself on fire in New York. if he was going to do that he could have done it with one of those dogs. Yeah. It would have been cool. It would have made the news probably a little bigger.

1:38:36Yeah, yeah. It would have added more. He was trying to start a revolution apparently. Was he? Yeah. You haven't seen that? I didn't see it. I know that it happened. Yeah. There's some protest. I know a man set himself on fire. If you're going to start a revolution at least use a robot dog with a flamethrower to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Are those legal? We're going to stop seeing drive-bys and there's going to be people walking. It's 9 ,400. Well, I'll tell you this. You could start some, if you get angry at your neighbor, that thing, you could burn someone's home down. Yeah. Just comes out of the garage and walks across the street.

1:39:06Like, oh, shit. Hey, Jim, check out what I got. Or be petty. Don't even burn the house down. Just burn their bushes down. Yeah. Oh, that would be the worst, bro. You come out in the morning and your azaleas are gone. To trash their grass. So what do y 'all's folks think as your lives change? Has that been interesting or has it been? I mean it's been so long it's just it's just normal I guess yeah it hasn't I mean I know it seems like we kind of just come out of nowhere but we've been doing this for seven or eight years now so so they're just they've been on the bandwagon the whole time I mean yeah my mom really wanted me to finish college because I did which you did yeah I did I was like halfway through sophomore year when this when I realized I could just do this and it was she really wanted me to finish she wasn't paying for it either but did you get your degree Yeah, I got it.

1:39:55Oh, yeah. It's hanging up. I was kind of blessed in the sense of my parents weren't very hands-on as far as that goes. They were like, well, trust God and do what you're going to do, man. You know, just pray and have a relationship with God and go find your calling. You know, I didn't really have people holding my hand too much or overbearing parents or anything like that. Yeah. I could see it being tough, though, as a parent, and that's what your kid's getting into, you know, Because especially our parents, they grew up in the 70s, 80s. Back then, it was a lot different. Yeah, dude, shooting heroin.

1:40:27My dad was rooting for me. My dad works in construction. So I was like, yeah, son, if you want to be a rock star, go do it. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, it probably is. I guess that's the two different types of parents. It's either you got to go with something safe or you're going to be like, dude, I've had to do something safer. Won't you get out there and take a swing at it, boss? Well, what people need to realize is whatever you want to do, you have to make that your safety net. You can only go so long with a backup plan or a side job. You can't be half in, half out. Eventually, you're going to just have to dive into it and make that your safety net.

1:41:02Yeah. Figure it out. Yeah, that's a good point, man. Even with comedy, you hear a lot of comics started out sleeping in the back of their cars. I mean, same with musicians, sleeping out in their cars to go do another show the next day, and you just got to send it. Yeah, I remember I was in love one time with a girl, and I was like, I tried to stop and do real estate for a while, and I couldn't do real estate real good. I actually filled out one of the leases wrong or something. Bought the house yourself. No, I had to pay some lady's rent, though. Really? Yeah, I messed up. During COVID, I sold roofs.

1:41:43You sold roofs? Yeah, during 2020 when those two or three hurricanes hit the Gulf Coast at once. Oh, yeah. Everybody was down there just selling roofs, and I was working with one of the companies that was owned by one of my friends because he knew COVID had happened, and shows weren't very common at the time, so he hooked me up with a job working with him. I think I sold three or four roofs, and every single roof that I sold, he lost money on. He'd get under there and just find more and more stuff wrong with it. it ended up being like a$40 ,000 job and the insurance only covered like $20 ,000 of it.

1:42:16You're like, Brandon, I'm not a good roof seller, man. I'm not a good salesman, period. Salesman's job is to convince you to buy something and my attitude was just like, buy it or not, I don't care. If you don't want it, no skin off my back. It's like the opposite of what you're supposed to do. Hurricane jobs are a real thing where we are. You hope for them hurricanes. Well, it's so funny. You kind of like, yeah. Yeah, so many of my friends work in where they sell the kelp process, people's insurance claims and all of that. Man, that's a huge business. That's what I got during COVID. My fiance's dad is an insurance adjuster, so I was untrained.

1:42:54I was climbing on people's roofs, marking stuff with them. I had no idea. I was up there just circling stuff. Just drawing whatever? Yeah. Yeah, I'd sign my name on half of them, just go up there and circle damage and take a picture of it. Well, what's scary is... I would hate to be those homeowners. You got this hippie coming and climbing on your roof, up there coloring and drawing. Yeah, he's just writing widespread panic lyrics up there. Yeah, you need a new roof. Draw the Wayland symbol. Yeah. Have you guys gotten to meet widespread? No, no. I mean, we listen. I wouldn't say we're the biggest fans, but I mean, I think everybody's listened to them at this point.

1:43:31Yeah, yeah. It's just something you don't hear a lot of people get to meet. It's just they're kind of like one of those interesting groups, you know. it's like we played with Eric Church didn't meet him he sent a bottle of whiskey with a note but we didn't meet the guy I think it's because he would literally fly in and play the show and fly out I think that's how a lot of those really really big guys are they come in get business done and they're out I went to I went to Eric's house a couple years ago oh yeah and wrote a song me and Matthew and Drew wrote a song with them how did something like that get set up I have no idea I think I think one of the booking agents reached out to him?

1:44:07Probably. Yeah, I think it got set up through the managers and I don't really know. I can't remember how that went about. If he reached out to us or if we reached out to him. Are there writing sessions that you have scheduled coming up kind of thing? Or is that just like once in a while sort of thing? Because you guys have a new album so you won't be writing for a while or you just kind of write as you go? Me, Drew and Matthew make a yearly trip up here in January after the new year. And we usually stay up here for a week and do a bunch of writing. And we're trying to do that more often now. But yeah, sometimes we'll meet people too and just get a co-write scheduled.

1:44:49A lot of times though, when we write our stuff of our own, it happens when we're at home. It's very hard to write and make music when you're touring all the time. Yeah, and most of our songs come from with, Brandon, Drew, and Matthew writing rather than from a co-write somewhere. Yeah. It's just kind of how it happens. That's how it happens, man. We play all the new records at the live shows pretty much. Oh, sweet, sweet. That's how we test them out. So the response has been good. That's how we even do it before we even go in the studio. We just start playing stuff. If we don't feel a good response and we kind of go back and change a couple things and they kind of grow with us on the road and we get, I mean, it's like, it's quick feedback.

1:45:33You're constantly in a space where you can experiment. Yeah, we can test. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty awesome, huh? Yeah. It's like going out and trying jokes on the crowd, see if it lasts or not. Yeah, no, that is one nice thing about having shows where you're just kind of cruising along and you're working and you're writing at the same time. Because I learn a lot of times in the moment up on stage, you know? Mm-hmm. I think it's, you can write it, but it's, yeah. After a while, you kind of know your voice, too, and you know what'll kind of roll for you. I think that's what you can't, that's what you can't get and I'm not knocking anybody who does like The Voice or American Idol because if that's your way if that's the path you want to take then cool but you can't skip the road dogging it you can't skip playing in front of a crowd or playing in front of empty rooms no matter if you win a TV show or not you're still going to have to acquire that experience or it's just you're going to have a hard time navigating trying to figure out how to work a crowd or figure out what works and what doesn't work yeah that's a good point i would hate to have gotten to had a chance to have a larger crowd and not known yeah i mean even then it's still tough sometimes because it's still you're in front of a huge group of people i mean you see all the time like um entertainers have problems with people uh throwing them out we've had to throw people out of shows or people throwing stuff at like uh nikki minaj gets something thrown at her every other week it looks like but um i don't understand that yeah me neither but it's like there's always going to be that element that you're in a live space yeah but to not have had the reps of like i know how to be here it gives you some confidence too yeah but yeah i couldn't imagine especially a comedian like you're saying that just gets thrown out to the wolves you're here's over an arena good luck but a lot of those guys off kill tony will have to do that that's a good point they go from a minute to i don't know what you get as an opener well you get a couple more yeah that's the goal I remember when you got to, they usually start you with three minutes.

1:47:27As a first opener? Yeah, comedian with three minutes. When you're first starting out, they're like, okay, you're on a show. It's like you're going to do three minutes. Wow. And you're like, okay, can I get through three minutes? And if you have to get down early, you're just like, I'm done. And they're like, well, you weren't, but okay, come on back here. And then you try to get up to five. And when you really start feeling like you're rocking as a comedian is when you get to like. That 15 mark? Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. You got a little time to get uncomfortable. You're like, I might go on the road.

1:47:57You might start saying a shit like that to people. And people are like, you're out of your mind. You work at Dairy Queen. You know what I'm saying? You're out of your mind. I got a 15-minute set, man. You don't know me. I'm going on tour. I'm out of here. And you just start yelling at people while you're trying to throw that trash into the bin at night behind the Dairy Queen. Testing it out on the homeless people that's still hanging around outside. yeah and then that's when it gets like that's when you can kind of go on the road with somebody but then there's those moments where you get stranded you burned all your 15 in 10 minutes it was a bad show and you still have to kill 5 minutes we've had shows where you just want it to be over yeah sometimes it's the energy of a room it's just the night just is what it is I mean we had one recent sometimes it's just from being tired like we're trying to think now no more than 4 shows a week and no more than 3 in a row because by that third show, and we've had five shows in a row, and it's like by that third show, you usually need a break.

1:48:57And at the end of the day, you're taken away from the crowd anyway because if you're up there tired and too tired to give it your all, then you're selling your crowd short. Yeah, you just kind of go into the motions. But I mean, we've done that, and people at the shows are like, that's the best show I've ever seen. I'm like, dang, we're sorry. Sometimes it's like Tortuga, though, where it's like everybody's vibing a completely different style of music than we play, and then we show up just playing rock and roll, and the crowd's just like, bring back the beat. Yeah, it's like they were doing it.

1:49:28It's like bro country or pop country, and then we're in the middle of it, and we don't even consider ourselves country. It's just like we ruined everybody's beach party. Yeah. They're out there. They want songs about getting drunk. Oh, I could see that. You guys are kind of in a little bit, not your own space, but what is it? I don't know. We just do what we want, I guess. We call it non-dom rock. Yeah. I like that. Non-denominational rock and roll. It's just like... I like that. All over the place. Everybody's at that beach, and we're like, here's one about mental health. Yeah. Enjoy. If you know somebody.

1:49:58Strays, though. That's kind of strays. That's what strays do, man. Yeah, that part came from just kind of being, I wouldn't say outcast, but we were always a little different from the crowds we grew up in. Didn't quite fit in. I went to private school. I didn't fit in with a lot of those kids. I didn't really put that together, too. Yeah, we are kind of straying from the norm musically. A lot of people don't really know where to put us. Well, there's some riffs in there. Sometimes I feel like some of it has an Aerosmith kind of. It's interesting. I'll go through different moments where I feel different things.

1:50:29Yeah, it's just, I mean, when we're making music, we don't try to sound like anybody. We just do what we think sounds cool. Yeah. I think that's really cool to find your own little niche. Yeah, well, look, I think it's just a testament but to be able to figure out what works for five guys at once it's pretty remarkable because you really have five inputs even though you have only three or four guys contribute maybe on the songwriting edge we still all work it up together yeah we all create the songs together but then yeah it just goes back to not being able to skip that step playing in front of crowds together as a band road dogging it everything that comes along with all of that that's where you start to figure out how each other plays or what each other is about to do.

1:51:17It's kind of like, what is it, telekinesis? Telekinesis. Telekinetic? No, it's not telekinetic. What's the word we're looking for? Telepathic. When women all get on the same menstrual cycle or whatever, like on a volleyball team? We definitely have that. Oh, yeah. Well, we're on the same musical cycle. I like that, man. Any unique things that have happened out on the road? Any wildcat? Oh, man. We got stories for days. Anything that really shook you out there? In recent? Or just in general? Back in the day, we've had bus fires. We've blown. We did a whole transmission swap ourselves in Colorado.

1:51:53No way. We bought another bus. We were going through Colorado. I think I-70 had washed out. Yeah, I-70 was washed out. So we had to go the fair play up through where South Park is. And it's like 13 ,000 feet. And we had to go the back way to get to Grand Junction. We were going up the side of this mountain, and I was laying in my bunk. I was driving. I hear, like, Andrew screaming. I had my headphones in, and I hear him screaming, like, we just blew the transmission out. And we're literally on the side of a mountain. Yeah, it's 90 degrees straight down, 90 degrees straight up, two-lane road, just right there.

1:52:29Like, right against the side of it with rocks, and there's a falling rock sign. And Drew, like, steps out of the bus and hits some gravel and immediately falls down. Just pissed. He gets up and starts punching the bus. I just knew it was happening. We're just going. When you get up that high, with our diesel especially, you lose the math. You lose, what, 3 % for every 1 ,000 feet or so? Of what, brain power or whatever? Our brain power. No, for the motor. Oh. If the air is so thin, the motor has to work harder. Probably some brain power too. Yeah, we're definitely losing some brain power. I'm not good with altitude.

1:53:04I've had some bad times. And how did you get that thing back down? You did a tow truck? Yeah, we had to order it. we had to get a semi truck and loaded the bus up and our trailer like a$5 ,000 tow to the a state trooper a state trooper gave us a ride as well out of the goodness of his heart and uh yeah Buena Buena Vista Colorado and there was like one hotel room left in that whole town cause I was calling and calling and calling while we were waiting on the tow truck and finally got it and we all piled up in that one hotel room like well what are we gonna do me and Andrew so we had the bus dropped off at a transmission shop in town and it was probably a good four miles away and we uh got up the next morning right before the sun come up and just start walking towards it and uh and we're like 10 000 feet i mean we aren't yeah we're getting level men we ain't built for that we finally make it to the transmission shop and he's like man i'm i'm two months backed up get this thing out of here i can't work on this oh and so we're walking back to the hotel wondering what we're gonna do And we've been in that situation before because, I mean, we've had to roll up the shops like, hey, we ain't leaving.

1:54:11You gonna fix it or we stay in here with you. And it's not like, we just have to throw money at people, like just work on it, we'll pay you whatever, and he's not having it. Damn. He's like, sorry. Isn't that where The Shining is, where the hotel is? The Buena Vista? I don't think so. I don't think so. This is not a very nice, I mean, it's beautiful, but it's not a big town, like where that big hotel would be. Okay. Ben might have to pull that one up. I'm not sure where that's at. Yeah, see where that's at, man. It is up in the mountains somewhere, though. Is that Montana? It's in Oregon, man.

1:54:42Dude, that place is in England? No, the interiors were filmed. No, The Shining, yeah. The interior, yeah, the real Overlook Hotel, maybe? Mm-hmm. You know, we got Good Godly Woman and the sequel to The Shining for like two seconds. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Dr. Sleep. but to continue what we were talking about was we started having to we started walking back just like what do we do and we had to start me and Brandon's hitchhiking through this town in Colorado literally walking out with a thumb out yeah this old guy in the jeep picks us up and he gave us a ride to the hotel we were just like we have to do something we've been picked up by strangers a bunch of times he dropped us off and he's like hey there's a white water rafting company that sells buses like the one you're talking about maybe hit them up see if you can buy bus from them and we were like yeah whatever thank you still tried to find someone to rebuild the transmission and the closest person that would was in denver like three hours away he said if you pull it and bring it to me i'll build it for you and so before we resorted to that we had rented a u-haul van and went and talked to that company that the white water rafting company and he had a bus just like ours that had a freshly rebuilt transmission in it and he put like 30 miles on and parked it because he bought a school bus.

1:55:58They used the buses to bus people out to the river to whitewater rafting. And he said he'd sell us the bus for$3 ,000, and then he figured out we were a band, and he was like, if y 'all play a show for us, I'll knock a grand off the price. No way. We were here for like four days, and the place is, so they do that whitewater rafting. All these teenagers come to be the gods, like a bunch of river rats come in, and you know those campers on the back of a pickup truck? Yeah. It's a field full of them. All just laying on the ground. That's where these kids are living. In those? Yeah, and the grass is all grown up around them, and they don't have power.

1:56:35So it's just the ground and then the camper top? And the camper top, and it's like a trailer park of them. They're everywhere. But it's not a full trailer. It's just the little cabin. It's just that little cabin. It's just a camper feed, isn't it? What do you mean? Yeah, I mean, well, I think you can stand up in them, but they have that little part in the top you can sleep in. Here's what I'm picking up. Picture in a pickup truck, and then that thing that goes on the back. That goes on the bed. Yeah, it sits down in the bed. It goes on the bed and kind of goes over the cab. It goes over the top of the cab.

1:57:00Oh, no, not that. I'm just thinking of the one that just goes, that's even with the top of the cab. Oh, you're thinking of a camper shell. No, this is like, it's like a motorhome. Now I know what you're talking about. Yeah. With the piece that goes over the top. And they're all in those. Put like a window unit in them sometimes. Yeah. And these are straight hippies. And there's no trucks, just those? Just those. And the grass is all grown over top of them. They're living in them. Yeah. Yeah, it's like those. Not as nice. like that one on the top right yeah 100 no oh left that one's too big that one it's a bunch of those and these kids are straight up real life hippies like straight up we were playing we set up and played for them and they were dancing in between songs kind of thing it's all gravel it's all dusty in here in the rafting building yeah there's probably 30 or 40 of these kids yeah i say kids they're probably in their late teens early 20s it was it was in the big building where they keep all of boats and we sat up in there and it was like a gravel floor and just the dust from them like shuffling that hippie shuffle dude that's incredible and that was uh yeah look up see what rafting company that was that's phenomenal whitewater rafting yeah we can i mean there's a couple it's in buna vista some whitewater something so then you guys take off in that new bus well no we get the tow truck to drop our bus off next to the one we just purchased and then we just start taking them apart and we took the transmission out of ours, took the transmission out of the other one and swapped them around.

1:58:25And I did something wrong in the process. I didn't put the torque converter all the way in and so we bolted it up and bent a pump gear and had to pull it back out and take it to that original transmission shop and we pulled what he was talking about. Like, hey, we need you to fix this. We ain't leaving. Fix it. He ended up having a soft spot. He actually helped us out big time. He took it apart and straightened out what I had accidentally bent and put it back together and then we got it back in there. A two-day job turned into like a five-day job and it was miserable. But while like Brandon and a couple of the, and this is just the five of us on the road together, they would be working on dropping the transmission or getting the other one ready.

1:59:01Me and Zach would be just ripping every part we could get our hands on on this bus. You don't see these buses ever in like a pull apart. Usually somebody will take them. It's a 7-3 diesel. Those never show up. So we're getting every part you could put a hand on snatching it out. We took out the turbo, we took the back AC unit, we took the driver's chair, took the steering box underneath it. That thing would never drive ever again in its life. We just straight pull apart. Somebody asked if they could have it and we were like, yeah, you can have it. He said, steer it over here and I'll pull it. I was like, you ain't steering nothing.

1:59:36So we straight left it. You're like, we took the steering. We took everything. That thing was, we took the bumper, we swapped the bumpers Everything I took the taillights But we We got it put back Our bus put back together With all these other parts And got down to Mississippi So you guys had to miss some shows Or you had a little break I think we missed one show Did we? I don't know if we did We missed the Where were we heading? Mississippi No we were heading somewhere else Oh Grand Junction Yeah we missed the last Colorado show But we had four days off So we made it We just buckled up and drove Wow Yeah that was That was a time in our lives that was, looking back, it was fun.

2:00:15In the moment, it was, I think it was that American Adventure Expeditions looks familiar. Yeah. We went and stopped somewhere that's a good whitewater raft, and it was in Tennessee, that was over near Chattanooga. I've never done it before. It looks fun. It's nice, man. They didn't take us out. You'd think that had been part of the deal, but there's your bus. Oh, man. That's it. I mean, that's the town. That's where we were trapped for four days. It was beautiful. Wow. Oh, yeah, but we were underneath that thing, bench pressing this transmission, and this dude comes by, and he crawls up under there with us.

2:00:49This hippie. He had like a big mustache. He's like, let me touch everybody. Get his hands on us. Eliza Thornberry's dad mustache. He's like, man, we're having a moment right now. He's like, yeah, man, we're having a moment this whole week. Thank you. Then he offered us some drugs. He's like, man, y 'all like to party? Like, yeah, we like to party. He's like, man, I got ketamine. I got cocaine. I've got all sorts of stuff. We're like, no, man, we're good. We're going to bench press this transmission. Wasn't really good at reading the room, just covered in grease, trying to put a bus bag together.

2:01:19I ain't doing no cocaine with someone who's super homeless. Oh, yeah. These are, you know. If someone is a little homeless, yeah. I'll see where you're not living at. Let's party. Let's walk around. Come back to my camper. We'll hang out. But if somebody's super homeless, dude, I'm out. That could have been it, too. That looks pretty familiar. It was, what was across, there was two of them across the street from each other. There was a Domino's down the street. That's all we had to eat. Oh, yeah, there always is. Next to a mechanic shop. They shared the driveway because they hated each other. Where'd you guys sleep at while you were there?

2:01:51The hotel was right in front of the rafting place. I think that last night we had to sleep on the bus. Yeah, we did. As it was still blocked up, just we opened the windows and camped out in it, man. Just like the hippies. Hell, yeah. And that's when you're like, oh, now I see where that guy was coming from. Yeah. It was That was a That was a tough time Yeah It was the Dominos Yes And I think it was It's the one across It's the Adventure Company Yeah That's who you guys are man Y 'all are the Adventure Company I believe it was them You guys have been on a lot of adventures man I got a good rating That's the raft That's the raft Look at this There's that That's where we played the show Building go up one Ben That one No y 'all played in that raft room That one Yeah we played in that raft room Right there Amen That's where we set up Wow They were still rafts hanging around.

2:02:38People were hanging out at them watching the shows. It's kind of cool. Bro, that's unreal looking. We'll have to get in contact with those folks. Dude, if you guys went back through there at some point. Probably that bus is probably still laying where we left it. You need to go check on that bus. Yeah. Amen, man. They hate that mechanic shop next door. They hated each other. But you guys were kind of like the bridge between them that time. Yeah. Except we left that bus. That mechanic said he was going to go get it. I bet he never went and got it. It's probably still sitting in the same place. Any stray animals you pick up out there?

2:03:09Speaking of the strays. No, not really. I'm trying to think. We've hit some animals. Amen. We did. And RIP. Sorry. But hey, look, sometimes the Lord uses you and your vehicle to bring an animal home. Exactly. It's good for the population. Let's just respond somewhere. Yeah. Dude, I'm so excited about the new album. When will it come out? Do we know yet? We're thinking late summer. Yeah, hopefully around August time. It's about to start picking back up again. I think everybody's going to really like it. I'm amazed that you guys aren't even impressed with yourselves yet. I don't know, man. It's one of those things you kind of can't take it for granted.

2:03:48It can be taken from you tomorrow, you know? Yeah. We could skinner this thing and die in a plane crash. Hopefully not. People get popular, too, and they're popular for however long, and then time goes by and then nobody knows who they are anymore. That could very well be us. you know, it's, who knows, just try to be thankful for it, and never want to be like, complacent, I guess, always want to be trying to get better, and just be a better person, put on a better show, and be a better band, make better music, just keep, never stop growing, you know? Yeah. Well, the rest of us are impressed, man, I'll say that, dude.

2:04:28Good deal. There's a lot better music out there. For sure. Thank you guys so much for making good tunes and yeah excited to hear the new album. Do we even know a name of it yet? Give it to them Brandon. Huh? Just give it to them. The album is going to be called Made by These Moments and it's got a good message to it. I'm excited. I'm excited for people to hear the music but it's just got a good message as well. so it's gonna be cool No, we've never told anybody that publicly. Nice. You heard it here first. I'm sure you'll email me tomorrow and ask me to take it out, but that's all right. No, we're in charge here, buddy.

2:05:04We make the calls. Oh, man. We make calls. Yeah, well, thanks for sharing that, made by these moments, man. Yeah, it's a lot of what life is, man, making them good ones, too. I mean, that's what it stands for for us. All the stories we were just talking about is why we're here. So it means a lot to us. Amen. Red Clay Strays, boys. Thank you guys so much, man. I appreciate it. Thank you guys for coming and just chatting and spending time. Good to get to know you guys a little bit. Yeah, I look forward to coming out and being able to catch another show soon. Yeah, you just let us know. We always got a spot on the list for you.

2:05:39Gang, baby, you guys stay healthy out there, man. You too. You too, man. Thank you. Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be Cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it In my bones But it's gonna take