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Podcast Episode Summary: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von - E514 KSI
Episode Overview In this episode of "This Past Weekend," host Theo Von interviews KSI, a multi-talented content creator, musician, boxer, and entrepreneur known for his significant impact on social media, particularly through YouTube, and for co-founding the drink brand Prime alongside Logan Paul.
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Key Discussion Points
Introduction of KSI
- KSI, born Olajide Olatunji, is highlighted as a "renaissance man" in the entertainment industry.
- He shares insights on his journey as a Nigerian kid growing up in London and his evolution into a successful content creator.
KSI's Background
- Discusses his upbringing and how his Nigerian heritage shapes his identity.
- Shares experiences from his school days, contrasting British and American cultures, particularly in communication styles.
The Launch of Prime
- KSI talks about the inception of the drink brand Prime and how he almost passed on the opportunity.
- Reflects on the hard work and strategy behind launching the brand, emphasizing the intense marketing efforts involved in its success.
Career Insights
- KSI emphasizes the importance of saying "no" to certain opportunities to focus on the right ones.
- He recounts a past embarrassing video project that he regrets and discusses the learning curve that comes with making choices in business.
The Impact of Fame
- The conversation shifts to the nature of fame and its responsibilities, with KSI expressing a desire for privacy over celebrity status.
- Both Theo and KSI reflect on the pressures of being in the public eye and how it affects personal relationships.
Upcoming Ventures
- KSI shares details about his upcoming fights, including a unique tag-team boxing match.
- He discusses the evolving landscape of boxing and his role in promoting events outside traditional formats.
Humor and Light-hearted Moments
- The conversation contains several comedic exchanges, including discussions about social interactions in different countries, humorous takes on personal experiences, and imaginative scenarios about the future of AI and humanoid robots.
- Themes of absurdity and comedic relief are prevalent throughout the dialogue, showcasing both Theo's and KSI's personalities.
The Nature of Content Creation
- KSI and Theo discuss the evolving nature of content and the fast-paced demands of the social media landscape.
- They express nostalgia for a time when content could thrive longer without the pressure of constant production.
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Key Takeaways
- KSI’s journey illustrates the convergence of cultural heritage and modern entertainment, highlighting the balance between personal identity and public persona.
- The success of Prime serves as a case study in entrepreneurship, demonstrating the significance of strategic decision-making and marketing.
- The pressures of fame are explored, revealing insights into the mental and emotional toll that celebrity status can take on individuals.
- The discussion on evolving content creation reflects the need for adaptability in the fast-paced digital landscape.
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Conclusion This episode is a blend of insightful commentary on fame, cultural identity, and the entrepreneurial spirit, all wrapped in humor and engaging anecdotes. KSI's authentic sharing of his experiences resonates with listeners, illustrating both the challenges and rewards of his multifaceted career.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Some new tour dates to tell you about Long Beach California July 10th Los Angeles, july 11th bethel new york july 31st albany new york on august 1st las vegas nevada july 5th and 6th bangor maine august 9th um bend oregon spokane portland maine and oregon a lot of places um go check them out at theovon.com slash t-o-u-r and uh thank you to anybody that's come out and support and seen the show and just can't even believe it. And I'll see you guys there, baby. Praise God, baby gang. Today's guest is a renaissance man, to say the least. He's a YouTuber, content creator, entertainer, boxer, promoter, musician.
0:56He's a boss in his industry, and it keeps expanding. He's now a co-owner of Prime Sports Drink. And I'm grateful to sit down with him today here in the London, Great Britain. Today's guest is Mr. KSI. Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my story
1:31shine on me and I will find a song I've been singing I'm on the sky How are you bro? How are you finding England? Huh? How are you finding England? Oh I'm finding it yeah probably one of the best audiences I ever had over in Manchester actually Wow Yeah, they're pretty wild over there. They were. Everybody. Yeah, just laughing. Like the last week of school where you're just hoping you can convince the teacher, like you have four more days to convince the teacher you were good the whole time. Oh, wow. They were just on it. Oh, they were just locked in, man. I love it. Because, yeah, some places it's kind of different, like Ireland.
2:19You're like, because they speak English, but they kind of barely, you know? Yeah, it feels like a different language. Yeah. Even in Scotland as well, it can be quite hard. Have you ever met a Scalcer? No, I've seen Paddy Pimblett. Yeah, it's pretty much that, but in Liverpool, it can be really aggressive. Paddy Pimblett kind of reminds me of the most violent Beatle, like if he were one of the Beatles, you know? It would be like Ringo, McCartney. Oh, I thought you meant an actual Beatle. Oh, no. Yeah, bro, this is showing my age. Yeah, yeah, that's a different, yeah So we're back to bugs They were one of the most famous bands in the world for a bit Oh yeah, yeah, of course I mean, they've kind of, I guess they have maybe fallen off I don't know if we can say that But fuck, they're the Beatles, man I mean, do those type of highs ever fall off?
3:17I guess That's a good question, have the Beatles fallen off? I mean, technically, yes But if you said that Like Surely you're getting riots At your front door Yeah I mean I think Yeah There would be some people Definitely run to their windows In Liverpool And scoff Or whatever you know Yeah scoff Yeah like that's one thing Like even being Yeah yeah yeah Yeah Like Oh yeah Ooh Like a woman just will touch Even though her button's already buttoned She'll touch it one more time Just to make sure oh my god how dare he yeah that's one thing that's crazy about being over here is just like seeing where like america started you know okay and seeing like how like a little bit more technical things are and people have a little bit more respect for how they communicate with each other it seems like at least in london yeah no i feel like it's coming opposite i feel like if you go up to a normal person, like just walking down the road and you go, oh, good morning.
4:22Everyone would be like, what the fuck are you doing? Here in London? Yes. Oh, wow. That would be like, that was one of the weirdest things you've ever done. Don't talk to me. Yeah. Like in America, it happens all the time. Like I was in North Carolina a few weeks ago and people were just complimenting on what I was wearing. I was like, what the, what, this is weird. But in England, if I complimented, oh, I was there like, oh, nice shoes. You're there like, I'm getting robbed, aren't I? Oh, really? But at least they're properly robbing you. Like, hey, I'd like to let you know you have nice shoes.
4:59I'm going to take them. They're mine now. Yeah. I feel like there's at least a protocol of violence here. Okay. Well, in America, is there no protocol? It's just willy nilly. I mean, bang, bang. Yeah. Even if you like, yeah, it's crazy. because they'll even have like the telephones like at the Apple store will be tethered, right? Yeah. But at the gun place, you can just, you know, you can, they're not even tied down, you know? Oh, wow. You would think. Well, apparently you don't even need the ID for guns. But you have to at least, you have to, you have to be able to say, yes, I need it. You have to answer a couple of questions.
5:34I think one. Yes. If you can say yes, you're right. Yeah. And they have one sign. It's a gift to be this tall to own a gun, but it's very short. Okay. Yeah, it's very. So you get up like a five-year-old who's just down like. A tall five-year-old. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I know how to use one of these. I love it. No, America's amazing, man. I've been there so many times. Dude, it's a pleasure to see you, man. One of the best content creators and entertainers in England. and like and a business guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that's crazy. It's funny because England is so small. Oh, it is? Yeah, well, I mean, it is, yeah.
6:18But so mighty though. Compared to America. Like, if you said that exact same phrase, but in America, everyone's there like, yo, that's sick. But in England, it's like, bro, like France is bigger than France. Oh, yeah. Sorry, dude. No, no, it's fine. I don't know, honestly. But out of England. I don't take myself seriously, so it's fine. Out of England and over the world. When you look at business stuff, were there some small choices you made along the way in your career that you were like, oh, wow, that was bigger than I thought? Or were there things that you kind of passed up where you're like, maybe that was a learning curve?
6:58Because you guys get thrown so many products. I mean, people come at me with all types of stuff. Yeah. do these band-aids or something to do these neck braces it's like I'm not even hurt or anything and they want you to um um to be honest I'm I say no a lot like oh yeah yeah just I get so many things thrown at me something to do with lube you know create my own lube could be it could be a good idea but I'm just there like why why like for the autos or no for the for the for autos or for sex you be um i don't know what you mean or for like is it a lube for mechanics for no like an engineering type of um like a no no for for sex oh all right yeah now if you could do a dual lube there if you're it works for both yeah just yeah hey this tire's not turning neither is this woman so you could like you know i think if you could leverage that now that's really you know what you You might be onto something.
8:02But why me? I don't know, dude. But you're a multi, you can do a lot. Yeah, I guess I do many things. You do many things? That's it? Bones to music. It's more lovable sex these days. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like tickling each other until somebody comes or whatever. Yeah, whereas before it was like, oh, I need to show that I'm the dog, that I'm the alpha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've always come from the approach of I'm not good at sex. So then when you do well, people are like, wow. Look what he did. I'm pleasantly surprised. Oh, yeah, definitely. I didn't know you could do that. I've had some real Billy Elliot moments in the bedroom.
8:48I don't know who Billy Elliot is. Sorry. No worries, man. He's a famous. What is he? He's like a famous, he was like a kid in, who was Billy Elliot? Can we bring him up? He was a famous dancer, kind of. Yeah, he was a famous ballerina, yeah. Oh. Ballerina, and the kids were like, he's. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, he was like a famous ballerina out of where? He's from the UK, I think. Wow. And his dad and everybody was like, hey, hey, what are they doing? Oh, wow. But then he said, yeah, he ended up just being like the best ballerina or whatever. And at the end, his dad hugged him or whatever. Oh, that's cute.
9:34Bought him a sandwich or something. Something very loving, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's not what you want to do. Well, it's just like people are like, oh, this dude. Like if this guy shows up and does well, you're like, wow. Wow, here's a sandwich. Yeah. It's at the bar. Maybe that's what the movie's about. I don't think I watched it at all. Yeah, fair. Oh my gosh. But were there choices of things that you did, like pass up, where you were like, oh, that was smart. Like at the time I couldn't see it. Just because having vision like that is interesting and important. Well, I mean, I can tell you a bad situation where I decided to do this video with some Asian content creator.
10:20It was, I don't know why I did it. I think well I did know why I did it because I got asked to do it for about like 5k at the time and for me back then was huge oh it's a lot of money so I'd just be in this video and I had to like collect balls while being attached to him so I was also in like lycra or is or or just like a really tight morph suit. Okay. And we had to just be attached to each other and collect balls. That sounds very... Pull Billy Elliot back up again, if you will. I think that's what we're gonna argue. So now we've each had... So that was the one I probably regret. I'm sure if you look hard on the internet, you'll be able to find...
11:17Find some? Yeah. Yeah, we had a group. They had a dude. They tried to get me to do wheelchairs A buddy of mine made like a new style of wheelchair You know they have wheelchairs here in England You know what I'm talking about Yeah yeah we have wheelchairs Like that I don't know if sometimes they have it differently What the hell we do Sure okay Well people here are more like even Tiny Tim He's like a famous British Kid from the Christmas movie You know what I'm talking about or whatever Tiny Tim And he's on crutches right Like he wasn't in a wheelchair Maybe that's what my brain is thinking Oh, fat.
11:50All right. All right. So, yeah, you guys seem like you have a little bit more like, at least I'm going to do the crutches. Whereas in America, we're kind of lazy. We're like, oh, okay. Fat. Okay, I hear you. But, yeah, my buddy, I was trying to help him out. He had like this prosthetics business and wheelchair business. And so, you know, I did a couple of photo shoots and like some wheelchairs and shit. But then people were like, well, you're not even, you're like faking being, you're like, you're not disabled or whatever. Yeah, okay. So people got, you know, very upset about it. So how do you feel about like actors having to be, let's say if they had to be disabled and they weren't actually disabled, do you think they shouldn't, they should or shouldn't?
12:32I'd be pissed if I'm watching the commercial for it. Yeah. Right. And then at the end, the guy gets up and walks off out of the chair. I'd be a little bit like, well, that's a magic chair. Yeah. I want what he's having. Yeah. Yeah. I want what he's having. That sounds great. So maybe like, yeah, I don't know. That was just something interesting. But then there's a guy, a friend of mine who's a comedian in the States. He told me one time, the one thing you can always say is just no. Like if you don't know what to do, then just say no. Because you're probably okay where you're at. And then you can figure it out.
13:09Yeah. Well, I feel like I've got quite far by just saying no. I mean, obviously, I'm glad I said yes to Prime. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that was definitely a dub. Yeah, for sure, man. It's unbelievable. I mean, that's something like that. Did something like that change your life to like a different perspective, even for yourself? I mean, that's remarkable. I don't think it's changed me as a person, but it's changed my lifestyle. Yeah, I just have a lot more private jets now. Yeah. Yeah, more private jets. More lunch. More lunch. I'm able to relax a lot more. I'm able to just Not worry about too much Look after the family etc Now it's like I can really Just do what I want Whereas Before Prime I'm still able to do what I want But I had to be More strategic Etc I guess play the game a bit more Well congrats man And yeah, I mean, it's valued at billions of dollars, that company.
14:15Well, it's taken us a lot of hard work to get to that point. It's just I think people don't realize because you see people trying to replicate left, right and center. Just the marketing you have to do, like especially the first year. We traveled so much from America to Europe to all these different places just to promote. Like day after day, like just doing appearances. Yeah, yeah. And just doing PR, left, right and center. just to constantly get prime in people's faces like yeah it's it was intense and like yeah it's quite draining on the body but like you know we knew the vision we knew we had a product that was gonna fly you know it tastes great and you know it's better than our competitors so yeah my nephew has two primes before he goes to sleep okay yeah and he's doing pretty good he's he has his dreams he said are pretty good so i think that's why he enjoys it as like kind of a dream enhancer but yeah he's kind of a unique kid but i think he's only about eight or nine but yeah he'll put away some prime before bed um but yeah i think it's just wild when something like that happens and people don't see how much has to go into it how many like just places you have to show up at appearances um yeah whose whose plan was prime was it just you guys had come together So Logan came to me and he was like, oh, you know, I've got this idea.
15:40Two other guys that we work with when it comes to Prime. And he was like, yeah, we should try and work together. So I was there like, first of all, you know, we were first in a boxing match. I don't know. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Chill, bro. But, you know, I was there like, I want to like, you know, really understand the product, You know, know who the other two guys were And just really understand everything And, you know, at first I was a bit unsure You know, I tried the product The product was fine I was like, oh, it tastes really good And then, yeah, we just went with it Wow So, it's crazy Do we actually have like a prime?
16:22I can If I can tell you Oh, okay, well Yeah Have you ever had one? I've had one Oh, okay But no, you can see I think it's at the bottom Where it says Made by the Prime Team So it was going to be KSI and Logan But because I left Just before the launch They changed it to The Prime Team So did you have to fight your way back in No no no They definitely were like Yo we want you back in We need this So wow that's crazy You were that close This close to being like no to prime. Yeah. Wow. Very like crazy. And what was it? Was it just a feeling where you like pray about it one night and you're like, I'm going to see how I feel tomorrow.
17:07We're like, you're just going to trust your instincts a little more. Cause that's crazy, dude. That's crazy to be. Cause I've been close on little things where you're like, nothing like prime, but you know, different opportunities where you're like, this doesn't feel right. Yeah. No, it was just, you know, there was just a few things that were happening and I was just like, oh, I wasn't too sure. and then once those things got rectified i was there like yeah i'm all in let's do it wow yeah that's fucking incredible congratulations thank you thank you yeah because to then create a product that does so well that's like yeah that's after you have some success it feels like that's what everybody tries to get you to do yeah yeah do this toothpaste do this you know yeah yeah i get people wanting me to do everything yeah yeah it's just gonna be like prime it's just you know it's it's gonna be hard to replicate something like prime yeah and why would you yeah i mean it would be silly but people are always trying to get me like yeah do these knee braces a lot of stuff for me is like knee brace or like um pull up a knee brace if you can brother wait you guys have a mirror do you have bad knees no but it's just the kind of shit you get approached with you know be in this movie yeah look at these action knee braces they were called and i'm like well first of all if somebody's in a knee brace should they be action knee braces you know what i'm saying Like they're already not doing good Why would they come to you for it?
18:27I think I don't know I think I'm on some email list or something But I get hit up with a lot of this shit Neck braces Do you get into injuries a lot? No I feel like something like that would be great for jackass Yes That's a good call Yeah like okay They get injured a lot Here's them selling a knee brace or a neck brace So I got to get a new agent or whatever. But yeah, I've had some pretty bad offers. But what else was I thinking about, dude? Oh, yeah, it's been interesting being over here. You know, I like London way more than I thought I was going to. Okay. Like yesterday, we just got to walk around and just see what it was like.
19:11Well, did you get recognized a lot? Yeah, you meet a lot of people here. Oh, sick. Were people asking you like, oh, do something funny? do you get that a lot as a comedian I want to take usually just photo or say something sometimes somebody wants to share like maybe they had an experience that you've talked about on podcasting because we talk about a lot of just regular life stuff on here and so sometimes you'll have people say hey man you know this is an experience that was going on in my life and it was similar to yours and stuff and sometimes that's the toughest part about popularity in some ways is you used to have more time for that kind of thing you know but now you could run into somebody on every block And you could spend your whole day kind of like listening to someone's story.
19:50So you have to just try and manage your best, you know, I think in dealing with that. Would you say, I mean, this might be deep, but do you think popularity is a prison? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, I think it's a responsibility. It's interesting. It's kind of an escape room, maybe. Okay. because I think you can figure out how to manage it, but I think it surprises you. There's different levels of it. You're like, okay, people see me now, and then it's kind of fun, and then there's times where I think it gets kind of scary. Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure at your level, you get to the point where you almost, you have to fly private because you couldn't cause a scene somewhere.
20:32Well, it's just because it'd be easier. Right. That's what I mean. For me, a lot of times, I do things just to make my life as easy as possible. Yeah. Because I mean, you know, I can easily take an economy flight left, right, center. Like I'm probably will when I have a kid because I don't want them to think, oh, you know, PJs are. Like I wouldn't want my child thinking, you know, all these crazy things that I do. Yeah. That kid's going to be on a mule back. That fucking kid is taking the slow wave, brother.
21:10Yeah. We're taking the bus. Yeah, we are, brother. We're going to walk. Kids are going to be like, why are all these people just staring at us all the time? Dad, why do I have this? Why am I in this wheelchair? We're slowing it down, son. You got to go through it. But no, I think, yeah, that popularity, it's interesting. It's a, yeah, like, I mean, would you trade, if you could keep your finances, would you trade your popularity, you think? Oh, 100%. Wow, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. if I could just keep all the money I have and not be famous, I'd do that easily. Yeah, but it's crazy. Like you get a lot of people who have a lot of money, want fame and they don't, I don't think they realize that it's a lot of responsibility because you have so many people that look up to you and as a human being, you're gonna fuck up.
21:58So as soon as you fuck up, bro, the onslaught, the mob, it's so much to deal with. and then should then have to rectify it and fix it and show the world that you are human and that you're going to improve and learn from your mistakes, et cetera. Yeah, it's a lot, man. I've gone through that so many times, bro, where I've messed up so many times because it's just, yeah. Once you had a product that was a bigger, because then it's almost a responsibility that your behavior could even affect the - Exactly. That has to be a whole nother different thing. Yeah, yeah. So like imagine if Prime was on the stock market.
22:37Yeah. And you know, I don't know. I like I said something that just pissed off a load of people. Yeah, like a bunch of Arsenal fans or something. Well. If you pissed off a bunch of like, yeah, like. No, what? Like, no, I support Arsenal. Oh, you do. Okay. Yeah. Like, yeah, a bunch of like Manchester United fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, like that. Imagine they just plummet my stock because of it. Yeah. I have to be so careful. I have to be so like, oh, everyone is great. I have no real opinion. Yeah, yeah. It's weird because you kind of trade a part of you. More of you gets traded away in a way.
23:16Yeah, yeah, exactly. If that makes sense. And yeah, not trying to complain about things, but trying to see. It's interesting having a life where in your life you have some popularity or you have fame. It's just interesting to even see what it's like. Like, not that it's, even if it's happening to you, it's just, you're still like, it's just, it's interesting to be like, okay, this is what this is like. But don't get me wrong. There are pros as well. Like, if I, you know, let's say I want to go to a restaurant and it's fully put, you know, I hit up my PA and all of a sudden there's a slot, you know what I mean?
23:47Like that's the benefit of, you know, being, uh, having fame. Like it gives you opportunities and more opportunities. Yeah. But then I guess if you have a load of money, you can just buy the restaurant. And then it's always free. No matter what. Yeah, that's a good fight, dude.
24:09What else was I thinking about, man? I wanted to ask you.
24:17You know, with haircuts, I know this is super random. Yeah. But so do you have a guy that you always go to? No, I have a woman sometimes, and then I'll cut my own hair too, depending on what kind of time of year it is. In the fall, I'm more likely to let a woman, this lovely hair cutter lady I know, cut it. In the spring, I tend to cut my own hair. You cut your own hair? Yeah, I'll just cut my own, you know, cut it, lift it, cut it. What? You just, how'd you do that? Oh, yeah, it's easy. You just kind of pull it straight, cut it And then you do the same as many places as you can Surely it's a bit all over the place Oh, it doesn't look great But you've done it And I enjoy it Because I'm the kind of guy who I'll be looking in the mirror Like I need a haircut right now And so I'll want to get it together Damn, it stressed me out So basically I have a guy that I always go to Really?
25:16But yeah, like always, his name's F One of the best barbers Of all mankind But I was in North Carolina And I decided like Fuck my hair is fucked right now I'm gonna get a haircut And I just apparently Well not apparently I did get a barber In North Carolina And he fucked me up man Oh fuck man Well I don't know like So normally with my bandana Like you don't normally see this But like it is just It's a mess bro Like even at the back as well I was talking to Steve Steve was there like bro He fucked you up man Oh fuck Like in the back And I was just like man So yeah There's so much crime over there There's so much black on black crime Yeah bro I can't believe you did that to me man And it's just Yeah He's there to ruin my life Yeah So I have to wait for this to grow out And until then I'm just getting blasted online Oh you are Everyone's there like, bro, your hairline's receding.
26:19Let go. Oh, yeah, bro. And I'm like, no, it's not. It's the barber. He's fucked me up, man. Just leave me alone. Long day. Just leave me alone, man. Bro, my fan base is savage. Like, they ride or die. Like, they will protect me from Antarctica to fucking Nadia. Poland, yeah. Why Poland? I was just trying to think of another place on the globe Yeah, I wish I'd have picked a different one But yeah, I just picked Poland, yeah So let's move on But then you get some Some like segments Of my fan base That are into like, for example, fan fiction Yeah Fan fiction, no, I'm not familiar with it So it's where your fan base Like creates scenarios for you So for some reason My scenarios are always me just doing sexual things with my friends.
27:17Oh, yeah. Who are all men. Oh, wow. Okay. So being gay or whatever. Yeah, it's okay. I mean, people are. Well, you've never had fan fiction. I've never had. I've never. You've never had someone go, oh, yeah, check this out. Send it. Send your whole story of Theo Vaughn. No, it's just like a romantic story. Yeah, just ragdolling something. And some man. Am I in prison? No, it could be anything. Like one of your best friends. Oh, God. Give me a... My best friend just got married, but I get... You shagging Bobby Lee. Oh, wow. That would be easy, I feel like.
28:02First of all... Wait, what? He's very easy to catch. He can't escape. He doesn't have any 80 % of his body is just kind of gristle and like kind of like mild joy and carbohydrates I feel like I don't think he would be able to get away He'd be more like a pen cushion
28:26Yeah, he'd be like oh you caught me But he would wear a bra or something Bobby is a very I've actually worked with him. No way. I've been in a movie with him. What what movie was it? Laid in America. Oh, wow. You can get it on Netflix. Please don't watch it. It's terrible. It's terrible, huh? Yeah, but he was fantastic in it. Yeah, he's charming. He was very funny. He's like the last scallop. He kind of has a scallop look. He's like the William Wallace of scallops. I feel like he has a very – he's something you'd get at a fancy Asian bistro, like if you knew the maitre d' or whatever. you know, they'd open up the dish and he would just be sitting there in a little, you know, just like in a little bird bath.
29:14Slurp him up. Yes. He's like the kind of guy I think that gets kind of railed in prison around the holidays. He's like kind of a seasonal treat of a man. After holidays, they're like, nah. Don't feel like anyone, man. Get over that. Yeah, that's why, at least till after Halloween.
29:40But that's amazing, man He's a Yeah, I love getting to be around him, man Yeah That's one thing that's been nice about Like podcasting in the States Is just so many different types of folks, you know Yeah Even getting to come over here, man Getting to talk to you Yeah, yeah We had Ed Sheeran came in the other day Oh, wow And Louis Thoreau is going to come in Oh, sick How was Ed? Pretty excited Ed was great Yeah, Ed is such a cool guy He's a professional, huh? Yeah, yeah He's just been doing it for so long He's just a damn just, he's just like a nice, like a comfortable cloud on a sunny day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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34:24Yeah, so no. Yeah, sorry, dude. Let me back up my wheelchair. Okay. All right, so would you know people like the Sidemen? The Sidemen, yeah. The Sidemen is a... It's like Mentor. Who else is somebody that's in it? What the fuck? You know Simon Mentor? Did you see his Soccer Aid performance? Was that with Sketch and the Boys? That you guys just did? No, no, no, so that was Beta Squad So there's a thing called Soccer Aid Have you ever heard of it? Okay, so it's like a charity event Exactly the same But there was a lot of promotion for Simon He was basically The poster boy for Soccer Aid Bring him up Yeah, he was just everywhere Let's get a peek at him, huh?
35:13Judge him Well, Simon Minter So he was actually He actually played in the last game. We should bring up his highlights. And did he do pretty swell? Well, I mean, we can watch. It was pretty good, yeah. Like, he's a very, very good footballer. Like, when it comes to charity matches like that we've done, we've done sideband charity matches that get so many views, you know, left, right, and center. He's always scoring left, right, and center. Oh, he's the best. Yeah, he's insane. Always scoring hat tricks. He scored at the halfway line at one point. That's, you know, the football pitch. The middle part.
35:54This is him right here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he looks healthy as well. So if you type in, well, click... He's a pretty clean-looking male, huh? It doesn't seem to be there. Basically... So allegedly he's good. He didn't do anything. So yeah, so he came on the pitch, last 20 minutes, and hardly touched the ball. Oh, why? Yeah. Well, it's just because they didn't give him the ball. Yeah. Yeah. So he was a very good player, but we didn't get to see much. And do you guys, is Sidemen in a league or it's just occasional you put it together? No, it's, no, Sidemen is like a YouTube group. Right. It's a gang kind of.
36:35Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except we don't kill anyone. Right. Or sell drugs. But is there beef? We sell much. Okay. There has been beef. Like with who? Like Joe Joyce and those boys? No, no, no. Like the travelers, you ever take on them? No. Well, I mean, I fought one of them. You fought one of the travelers? Well, Tommy Fury. Oh, yeah, that's right. But he's kind of like a fanciest traveler there is. A fancy traveler. I think he's definitely, he's the most traveled. Yeah, I mean, yeah, fair. But I'm talking about, you know what I'm talking about? Those videos you always see all the time. Bring up Joe Joyce and the travelers and them boys down there in Manchester, bub.
37:16Is Joe Joyce a traveler? yeah Joe Joyce is a traveller as in like the guy with the iron chin yeah you come on I'm telling you you've been talking shit those guys in the parking lot all the time that sounds like that's one of these back from the Bugs of Ireland well listen you get no private fight you accepted me challenge last night you said you come box me in Bolton this morning I've been here since half past 7 you dirty bug man's bastard Oh, wow. I'd beat you, Barney. So get yourself out of fucking Applebee. What'd you fucking breed? You've got 70, 80 men there. Oh, my God. You guys' primes should be sponsoring this.
37:55Yeah, yeah. Get rid of that. Luke is able. Put a prime in, man. So get your ass down here. Put a prime in, man. Let's go down, and I'll give you the fight of your life. You're good for nothing. Bogman's bastard. Yeah, dude. These guys are great. Yeah, dude. They're very intense. You want an apology? You'll give no fucking apologies. It's just families for years that have been fighting. Yeah. And making these videos. Wow. Dude, did you see the guy who, have you ever been involved with these guys? Luckily, no. Yeah, I stented to stay away from all of that. I feel like it's a lot of work. Oh, yeah, but that's an easy promo video.
38:31I mean, that guy cut that in two, three minutes in a parking lot. But I don't know. No budget. Do I need that in my life? I don't know. I mean, I just think if you started promoting that sort of thing, could that be the next thing? Well, I don't know. I think it'd be very weird if we start promoting that with the Sidemen. Yeah, that's true. But if it were Sidemen versus Trapp, like just straight up real deal Joe Joyce grandchildren. I think I'd be able to hold my own, but I feel like the others would fail tremendously. I think it'd be interesting to watch though. Yeah, when you look at like, because a lot of like celebrity fighting started, like Muhammad Ali did it a long time ago, I know.
39:10Yeah. And then they had... George Foreman. George Foreman did it. So did you kind of get those ideas from that? Or was it just something you guys... That was a world you wanted to get into? I think because of us just entering the world in general with the whole YouTubers thing, like me firing Joe Weather, then Logan Paul, etc. It just made sense to create our own organization, Misfits, where I feel like the name is perfect for it. misfits it's just it's different to everything and it's its own thing and people just love it yeah it's just entertaining we just make fights that people you know wanted to see for years happen or we just make things like tag team fights happen etc we just we don't care bro we just want to make it entertaining entertainment are you on the board that chooses the fights or how do you guys do it um not really like i i normally approve of fights but a lot of times mam's is in charge of that so with me i'm the one that actually does the fight so as in like i actually fight oh yeah you fight i know you fought no no no but as in like i that that's more my forte as of now and then when i take the back burner maybe i'll be more invested but for now mam's is just the guy who really sets the fights up.
40:37And Mams is? Or like his small council. I see. Wow. And Mams is my manager. Got it. Yeah, yeah. When you see that Mike Perry's in this new fight, suddenly for me, I was way more excited. I think you'd much rather fight an old man. It's just so much easier. Why would he fight Mike? That's so true. Yeah, why would he fight? Let me get back in this chair, bro. Bro, you know, did you see the fight between Silva and - What was that? Bro. What was that? It's, what was that? What was that? It was patty cake. Bro, it was - It was hard. It was ass, bro. It was checking someone's pockets for their phone.
41:23That's what I mean. And that's who Jake Paul fought. Like, these are the people that Jake Paul fight. And that's why I'm like, why would he now go into a super hard fight? Well, at some point, it has to be that if he, because he really pushes himself very hard that he's a boxer. No, he pushes himself as the legend killer. Oh, I see. That's the angle he's going. So he's there like, I destroy all these legends when they're 50 because that's who I am. I'm Jake Paul. Slayer of senior citizens. That's his forte. Yeah, he's like osteoporosis. Myocoporosis, basically. So that's why, like, him fighting Mike Perry, it's like, nah, he's, Mike Perry's still in his prime.
42:10Mike Perry is a dog, too. Yeah, bro, have you seen what he does with bare knuckles? Ah, yes. Holy shit, bro. Dude, he's had the best fights. Yeah. Have you met Michael Venom Page before? Yeah, I've trained with him. No, I love him. He's sick. Such a good fighter. He's so creative, dude. He's so cool. Yeah, bro, especially his knockouts and everything, the way he moves. He's so fun. It's almost like he has extra necks inside of his neck You know Because he's like It's like he's A snake Yeah He's just got that When you're watching him I'll be sitting there watching him And I'll start doing it It's just like Have you seen it You don't know what I'm talking about He's like he's got his own thing going on yeah his own style yeah because a lot of fighters they're like you know it's just more squared up yeah he's like i mean like good yeah yeah yeah oh bro it's crazy with the neck well he just like you know he can maybe yeah maybe i might have i don't know what picture i might be watching on 16.9 or something i just i know i'm not really staring and his neck.
43:26Yeah, I think I just see him, like the length of him. I don't know. Okay. No, I mean, it's fair. I don't know. This is going to turn into fan fiction. Yeah, that's it. You were an MVP. Starts moving that neck all of a sudden. No, I'm a huge fan of his. That's been one of the neatest things, I think, about getting, like just becoming a UFC fan over the past few years, man. Have you been to the fights? Yeah, bro. I go to as many UFC things as I can. Well in England anyway I think it's amazing Yeah there's one coming up in Manchester Yeah it's very good God dude it's so much fun isn't it Bro it's brutal It's bro actually what was crazy For me was You know as a British guy I went to The UFC in Miami 299 Bro That was Poirier versus Benoit So that fight was insane Yeah but But oh my God, when Trump came in, bro, I didn't expect everyone to scream like that.
44:29Bro, it was the loudest cheer of the whole night. Oh, yeah. I didn't know people love Trump like that. People love him. Like over here, everyone, for us, we think everyone hates Trump. And he's like, oh, you know, Trump bad, da, da, da, da. Like over there, oh my God, it's like, he's Jesus. Yeah. He's like yeah He's kind of like a Like a little bit of like a Yeah like a But yeah people love him When he comes in at UFC people love him But the media doesn't like him in America But the people Are more and more like him Well I'm not into politics I know fuck all People used to hate him But I think sometimes the politics is interesting though Oh no I'm too stupid for it Yeah as in like Imagine if I became You will one day.
45:18No. You'll become a politician. If I became a prime minister, then it's over for the world, man. Well, for England anyway. For who specifically? Well, let's take them out by city. What? Let's go. I'll probably be like, okay. Essex is out. No more taxes. I'll be like, no more taxes. Okay. No more taxes. Then all of a sudden, NHS is just there like, all right, now what, guys? What do we do? We're struggling. We have no funding. And I'm like, oh, shit. Fuck. Instantly, I'm in a hole. So for me, when it comes to politics, I'm good, man. You're like, unlimited prime for everyone. That might not be bad.
46:06No taxes, free prime. Dude, you could win on that campaign. That's what's crazy. No taxes, free prime. That's what's crazy. That is why. Well, the craziest thing about Trump is he was always kind of a shady businessman. I think everybody regarded him as that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Hollywood built him up because they had a show called The Boss or something. Oh, The Apprentice. The Apprentice. I do remember that. So Hollywood made him this big thing. And then they got pissed when he won president. They're like, what the fuck? Then Hollywood was like, fuck him. But you built him. It's true. You made him.
46:42Wow. So, but now people I think are more on this. I just think it's getting weird. The guy we have is not doing good. And it's just a bit much over there. No, fair. But the social media kind of controls everything it feels like these days. Yeah, social media has a lot of power in just in how people think I feel. Like, for example, even with Instagram, you can just, you know, let's say you're a woman. You go on Instagram and you're just seeing all these women Like Looking 10 out of 10 But they've all had worked on And it's just like the way to Get to that level is you have to get worked on Eventually your mind's gonna think Oh maybe I need to get filler Maybe I need to you know do this With my eyes or do this With my cheeks and stuff like that to get To that level it's slow but it Slowly like takes over people's Minds and that's why you need to just you know definitely step back sometimes and just be like nah man like i'm happy with how with myself i'm happy with my way of thinking but because it's just social media it's just everywhere and it's kind of like becoming everything it's kind of getting harder and harder to do that yeah oh yeah i would feel horrible because you'll see a lot of young girls getting lip filler yeah but i hate it i hate it they can't even chew i saw one lady having soup and it's just unhaving soup yeah I'm like I've never seen Fucking Like what are we doing here Like I've Told my girlfriend like Please never in your life Ever do anything Like every now and then she's like I'm like no Don't you dare you're naturally beautiful Stop Yeah that's what we need And some of that is men Men need to let women know Like I think women are a reflection of the men in their lives, right?
48:34And I really believe that. Like, if men, if we let women know, you are perfect, you are fine as you are, then they wouldn't live in this place where they always feel like they're having to adjust as well. But yeah, social media is crazy. Did you see John Shahidi? Do you know who that is? No idea. So he created Happy Dad, right? With the Nelk Boys. Oh, okay. So that group, John's a great guy. Wait, I might, could you bring him up? I might recognize him. But they just took away, his Instagram was at John, J-O-H-N. At John? He had at John. He had that. For four years. How the fuck did he get that?
49:16He woke up the other day and they had taken it away from him because they want to sell it. Because they think it's too marketable. And they took it. I'm trying to think of why I recognize this guy. He's often with Like Kyle Forgard He's John's a Really super creative guy Okay When he lost John What Instagram just took it from him Yep Can they do that Instagram took it from him Let's see Instagram changed my username today To this bootleg name Underscore Underscore Underscore Underscore John Underscore Underscore Oh my I mean I guess technically it is still John That's a good point But no explanation Not sure why I even have the bootleg app But Meta truly Meta truly does not care about their users Nobody there replies with reasoning So he reached out like how do you just take my name Yeah Because Well I mean if they're just there like it's our platform Now what What are you going to do Like what are you going to do if somebody says like yeah JJ we don't like what you're saying anymore Then You know the mean way The guy just disappears Yeah I'm out Goes into the bushes Oh yeah I'm out What can I do But yeah that's the thing It's like we don't have any It's like It's almost like We can write whatever we want But it's like They own the paper Kind of you know Yeah that's Ooh that's a good analogy So when they can fucking You're like What the fuck does all this even mean Yeah They can fucking Wow It's just dirty But yeah they did that to him Apparently he had Like Trump came on Logan's podcast Yeah yeah yeah And they mentioned John on there and the next day is when it happened.
50:59But they said it's people with short names, four letters or less. That's what apparently there's an article somewhere. It's like four letters or less. They want to take those names like Tom, John. Wait, I've got KSI.
51:14Well, do you? When's the last time you checked? Oh, fuck. Oh, shit. I mean, this guy fucking woke up and was gone. Fuck. What would you do? We'd have to storm. What would they give me? underscore underscore underscore KSI. Yeah, maybe. What the hell? I don't know. God, that's alarming. Or KSI lube, you know? I mean, they could give you anything. No, but that's unfair. I agree. But I guess they could do whatever they want. They can do whatever they want. Do you think... What would you do? Do you think Meta could just start posting photos for you? Yeah, I'm sure they could eliminate you. Like, imagine if Meta just decided to just add a dick pic.
51:54Yeah. It's not even of you, just a dick pic, just as your next post. And then they ban you for it. They frame you. Totally. Holy shit. Wow, dude, if that happened, hopefully my buddy Jason, because I never sent my own dick pics, but I would rent them for my buddy Jason, right? So for$10, he would let you use his dick, send it to somebody. Because he's a really, you know, he's just that kind of guy. and so yeah i probably spent 30 bucks fucking um wait what gifting his wiener out yeah from him well he had a decent wiener on him for one and two uh it looked a lot enough like my penis words if somebody then actually you showed up like you know with the teamu version of it people aren't gonna be that upset you know wait did it ever get leaked not and not yet and And if it does, it's not mine.
52:52I can't imagine. So would you like share them with your friends? Like, oh, yeah, bro, look. You have my dick pic. Oh, no, no. I'm not trading mine. Oh, okay. I have more of an artist kind of dick anyway. Like some people have more of a traditional wiener or whatever. Mine is just more of like art. It's almost like it's built like kind of one of the French Alps a little bit. Bring up one of the Alps, one of the smaller Alps. or like a candy corn. You have candy corns here at Halloween? I don't think so, no. Bring up a candy corn, bruv. Good day, Sad. It's like that, yeah. The one with the smiley face.
53:28Yeah, the one with the smiles on it. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, it's built like one of those. Yeah, just like that, man. It's kind of, you ever seen that part of the rocket that falls back to space, you know? Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, I imagine it gets bigger, right? Well, all right. Imagine all you want bro Hey it's fan fiction man We'll make it happen dude Fuck man Yeah it's more like the little engine that could You know you see people are like It's kind of like the one that comes at the end of the race But people are still there clapping you know Even though they're already packing up the beverages and stuff Oh I've had that So that's yeah Where I was like lost In a I think it was a It was either a 400 or 800 meter race I was really unfit Back in the day as a kid To the point where Did you do cross country?
54:26Yeah we ran some Yeah so like I would do cross country But whenever there was a bush I would like Hide there to just Avoid everyone And then come out At the end Just to pretend that I finished the race God, you sound like a peeping Tom Just kind of popping out of different bushes Well luckily I was a child So yeah If I was this age then You were before your time But uh So yeah It was, I think it was, I must have been at 800 Because if it was 400 that's really sad Yeah But uh I remember I got half way And I was like I can't, I can't do it I can't finish it So I ended up walking So I was just like fuck I'm just gonna walk all the way to the end And it got to the point where A teacher Came out of nowhere Ran up to me And she was like we're gonna finish this together I wanted to die Honestly That whole year of my life Was one of the worst years of my life And was it because you Just because of this teacher This one teacher thought she was doing a good deed But instead she ruined my life by forcing me to run with her.
55:44And she was like, you've got this. You can do it. You can do it, JJ. You're so close. And I was just laughing. I was down there. Oh, God, this is embarrassing. God, dude. It would have been better if I just walked by myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, why have you come to try to be a good person? Yeah, why are you trying to be a good person? Yeah, they should outlaw good person-ing. at certain times, you know? Like, let me suffer my own merit here. Ladies and gentlemen, it's my pleasure to announce that smooth sack summer is upon us. That's right, keeping your body smooth, keeping that naughty hair off your body.
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58:51This is a paid advertisement. Your family, you grew up in what in Watford? Yeah. And your family's Nigerian, Nigerian. Yeah. Do you ever get to meet like Kamaru Usman or any of those guys? No, no. He's cool, man. Yeah, yeah. But obviously I've seen them fine. Yeah. Yeah, no, they're great. Nigerians are so friendly. Yeah, yeah. We can be. A lot of friendly people, man. Do you feel Nigerian sometimes? Do you just feel British? I think it depends on like if it's like food, like when I'm eating Jalof Rice and Panda Jam and Okra and all of that yeah I feel pretty Nigerian or if I'm going to like a Nigerian wedding or if I'm getting my extended family asking for money all the time oh yeah they ask me for money too I feel pretty Nigerian at that point but then yeah I guess when I'm I don't know going to a private school, I feel pretty British.
59:56Yeah. Yeah, that's British, huh? Yeah, I was, yeah. Like, when I went to, because I went to a private school for a secondary school, I felt pretty British. Yeah, yeah. Well, I see the kids. They're wearing suits and everything. Yep, yep, yep. It's really unbelievable. Yeah. Like, I guess in America, you guys can just wear whatever, right? Kids look like shit in America. Yeah. I mean, they're drinking good prime. Yeah. They look like fucking, dude. They look like anybody could have put them together At least here they look a little bit Haberdashed like somebody cared Haberdashers is actually a place It's a town?
1:00:31No it's a private school Oh really? Yeah Haberdashers, Merchant Tailors I went to Berkhampton Wow that's fancy It just sounds fancy doesn't it Haberdashers Merchant Tailors But do you eat at the long tables Wow Wow. That must have been so much fun. We had cheese pots. Oh. Yeah, man. It was crazy. Like for lunch, we'd get servings. Yeah. Just be like, oh, I like this. Oh, actually, this looks quite good. Like we had options. Yeah, God, it's nice. It was crazy, yeah. We had a kid that would always bring ants in from outside, and he'd put them in his fucking pockets. And like halfway through the next class, he'd have fucking ants all over him.
1:01:09And he'd have to go to the nurse or whatever. So he was always kind of like kind of cheating the system or whatever to get out of class, you know. but he was a fucking real kind of zookeeper of a boy if you will you know
1:01:51You know what I'm talking about? Wow, okay Did anyone try that with like bees? No, nothing like that You'd see crickets A lot of times people would bring a bunch of crickets And let them loose in the class And so they'd bounce around And people would be kind of a bit wild about it, I guess Did you like learn anything in school? Like it sounded like We didn't A lot of stuff We had limited learning, I remember Was the name of our school, I think Limited learning I remember they had like a map of America, right? And then above it, where Canada is they didn't even say Canada. They just had a picture of like a wolf, like chasing a boy.
1:02:26That was it. And, and that was like, yeah, it was just a limited knowledge, you know, like we learned about Christopher Columbus. We didn't learn a ton about the UK. Yeah. Well, I imagine like Europe was, isn't even on the map for United States. Miami was kind of as far as we would learn. But, um, but yeah, America's gotten weird, man. We might be sailing back over here soon. Oh, wow. Keep the ports open. Well, I mean, have you seen the weather here, man? It's not that great. We'll take it. We could probably, you could adjust it. They're doing cloud seating and stuff now, you know? Maybe that's what's happening in England because it's just always trash.
1:03:06Yeah. Like one minute it's sunny, the next it's raining, then it's sunny again, then raining, then sunny, then raining. And this is all in one day. Yeah. Like, what the hell? So it's so, it's really hard to dress for it. If you're, oh, that's for sure. That's why I'm wearing this. Yeah. Normally I'll be wearing a t-shirt, middle of summer, but now I'm like, okay, should I be prepared for rain, thunder, storm, snow, in summer? Yeah, anything. Did you see, where do you go for vacation then if you're going in Europe? Is there somewhere you like to go? So I recently went to Japan. Oh, wow. Japan was a huge shift, culture shift.
1:03:45I've been there before, but it was like this time I really like dog in and explored everything. Because you took a break recently. Yeah. Is that when you went? Yeah. Yeah. So I did like, I'd say like a six to eight month break to just really like relax and enjoy my life a little. Because I feel like I've just been working quite a lot. Oh yeah. Just doing so much. So yeah, Japan was one of it. I was there for two weeks. I was like the longest holiday I've had in decades, honestly. Did you feel like a big person there? Kind of like a... Not really. Oh, well, as in like, oh, physically. Physically sized.
1:04:22Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. Yeah, I felt pretty big. Because they're just so, yeah. Yeah, they're quite, I guess the smaller size. They're so kind. You almost could pick a Japanese person up and set them somewhere else, and it seems like they would stay there where you put them. Yeah. You know, they're just so, like, hospitable. They are so nice. Well, it's weird, like, to the point where there was one point where we were going to a restaurant and we ate there and we, you know, paid the bill, we left and they would come out as in the chef and the owner would come out and start bowing while we were leaving.
1:04:56And we're just like, why have they done that? Like they have more people inside to serve. But they're just so polite, so genuine. And the bowing though, they bow, then you bow. But then since you bow, they bow again. And so it really becomes like You know it's like watching a penguin's arms Or whatever it just gets really bizarre I think it's They get kind of awkward if you try to like shake their hand They don't know what to do They freeze up real easy Yeah They can get a little bit glitchy I think A lot of glitching In the matrix over there I am Japan What else was I going to ask you about? I'm trying to think where else I went to.
1:05:43I went to. Oh, yeah. Going to Japan is so rare. What was something that surprised you about it? That surprised me? Oh, the love of like porn. Oh, wow. Yeah. Like there's like the whole department for it. You mean a department like at a grocery or something? Well, kind of, yeah. Like we went into this building and you know, it was full of like comics and manga and everything. And you can, you've got manga from all types of like Dragon Ball to, um, there's other mangas, but I'm such a Dragon Ball fan. I don't really care, but, but then there's an 18 plus section and it's funny. They, they have it covered with like a bit of curtain.
1:06:32Yeah. And then, you know, There's no one there to check if you're 18 plus But you can tell It's a little like Are you sure you want to go in here So yeah I was there with my girl We just opened it up And it's just crazy Like all types of crazy ass Manga porn Like I'm talking tentacle I'm talking robot I'm talking wheelchair probably What is manga? What does that mean? So manga is like comics So anime porn style? Yeah, pretty much Yeah, there's one I always hear about Oh wow, so it's all drawn porn It's drawn, yeah So I remember when we walked in There was this old guy Who was furiously Looking for this one book He already had like six In his hand And he's just there Like speed mode Just looking for that one That one that he hasn't got That collection And you could tell like he'd been used up Like he'd been chugging Empty Yeah he was Just always Just any Put the cork in him Somebody call his mom It's sad when somebody just jerks off forever Yeah I feel like we all used to Yeah but some people have said you know what, I'm gonna keep doing it.
1:08:04And I think at that point it gets a bit much, you know? Yeah. So I just got to, let me see, I think I'm 19 days off of pornography and masturbation right now. Wow, congrats. Thanks man, it's the longest I've been. Wait, okay, explain to me. How have you got through blue balls? I have ejaculated. Oh, well then what's the - By nature, and by God just kind of touching me in my sleep or whatever, but I have not. But I haven't jerked myself I haven't That's free brother No that doesn't count The 19 days is done bro No no no that doesn't count No it does What do you mean God touched me Sometimes I would pray that God would touch me while I was sleeping But I wasn't going to touch myself You know But it's just a human restraint But no porn and no touching No touching my own body 19 days man For me it's been good Well, I feel like for me, that's like, I think the longest I've gone is about a week, a week and a half.
1:09:04And then blue balls, bro, it just finishes me. I'm there like it hurts. Like I'm in pain. I feel like I have period pain. Oh, yeah, it is kind of, I guess you have period pain in your nuts. It's that time of the morning. So I'm there like, yeah, screw this. Would you think you'd ever make a sex tape, do you think? No, I don't. I think maybe. Did you ever think of it at one point? I think 10 years ago, there was part of me thinking, you know what? I feel pretty confident. And then, thank God I didn't. Yeah, probably imagine. Thing is, though, I feel like men get away with it more than women. That's a good point.
1:09:44Yeah, but I don't know if you could have then still. Well, I guess, well, Kim Kardashian kind of smashed it. Yeah, I guess. They just had an article. What was that thing Ray J was talking about, I think, with Kardashian? Did it alter the direction of history? Oh, wow. You know what? I think Kim Kardashian is so influential. I probably did. Like, look how many women just, like, are influenced by her. Oh, yeah. Like, bro, even I'm influenced by her. I bought Skims underwear. Nuh-uh, really. What the fuck? Yeah, that's a lot. But, bro, it's so comfortable. Like. Yeah, but it's for No, no, I mean There's a male section Oh, there is, I didn't know that I didn't know you're fucking kidding I was like, why is JJ hiding his camel top I wanted to know, dude No, there's like Male underwear now And bro, it's really comfortable I didn't know that But yeah, it's like, what, she's a billionaire Like, there's so many people I agree, man Who like look up to her Kanye's good music was when they were together But they did start The bad lip stuff was started by them The lip filler But that's what I mean, influential It's great, so yeah, you know what I kind of agree with you that they have Changed history Did you shoot Did you actually like call a producer About a sex tape or just thought about it Like how far down the road Did you go?
1:11:18No, I'd say like Like, I made a video, and I was like, if it gets this many likes, then I'll do a sex tape. And it has actually got that many likes, but, you know. Times changed. Times have definitely changed. Yeah, it's just, I can't see it now. Yeah, I wouldn't be good at having a sex tape, I don't think. I just wouldn't. Have you been close? No, I filmed something with a girlfriend kind of thing. Okay, yeah. You know, but not like a couple cameras shoot, just like a couple of geeked up perverts on their phone. Yeah. Okay. But that was a long time ago. Just amateur. Yeah, very amateur. Yeah, well, I mean, that's a category.
1:12:05Yeah, that's true. It does very well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've been on that category before and pleased with some of the stuff they have on there. Have you ever been on JOI? No I haven't J-O-Y What does J-O-Y mean It's like I'm pretty sure she talks to you Yeah I haven't seen it And she's there like J-O-Y Is it J-O-Y The most powerful schema description language And data validator for JavaScript Okay Maybe not Yeah I haven't been on there I think there's gonna yeah with that H I haven't even done the RV or whatever the VR VR yeah I haven't done the VR that could be quite pornography I haven't even used that have you ever used it no no me neither but I think it would be a really interesting experience you know I've I've read up that is it not not AI but AGI is around the corner so we can get like robots humanoid robots just being able to do our chores do we're able to have conversations with them right but the second somebody gets one they're gonna fuck it you know no well if there isn't a hole down there how are you gonna people will put one in but then people are disgusting the second you get anybody like hey we get me some cereal get me some blowjob yeah but what like Like, what's the AI going to say?
1:13:39Yeah. Whatever you want. I'm tired. Not right now. Maybe. I don't know. That function isn't in my capacity. Or what if they mess up the things, you know? Like, what if they mix up one of the things? Like, that would be it. You better. We want to make sure you don't get a cheap one because if that's it. If you ask for a blowjob and it starts Julie in a carrot or something, you're going to be in a tough spot, man. Well, yeah, look. Elon Musk, Jesus Christ, Tesla Optimus robot says everyone will want one. I feel like everyone would want one. Yeah. Like I definitely would try it. Like imagine someone who's able to just do all the chores.
1:14:18You know, do the bed when I wake up or clean, do the washing, clean the floor. But what about this then? What if one day robots get actually sentient, right? Okay. And they become as we are, will they be upset? Will they be like you enslaved those robots? Like you made them do your bidding? What if they just enjoy doing their job? Now that's true. What if they're just there like, I'm sentient? Or sentient? Sentient. And they're just there like, oh, this is great. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I love washing plates. God, that's great. Why is everyone always thinking over the bad situation? You're right.
1:15:00There could be sentient beings that just want to do chores. Yeah. That's their favorite thing. Like imagine them having to talk to us. They're like, oh, fuck that. Yeah. Like don't talk to me. Let me just do chores. Yeah. Let me keep working. Yeah. That's nice. You got to get one. You can probably afford one as well. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. I did. Bro, I'm so in. I'm just seeing like how chat GPT is evolving. I'm looking at Nvidia stock. Yeah. I just looked at some. Looking like a Right penis Just up Looking like a real Nigerian sex lord Just not going down I want to short it so badly Do you? Oh bro I know but it looks like it could be like Apple Where it just keeps going up and splitting I feel like it would just obliterate me But I don't know I feel like you have to wait for Like I don't know something bad to happen to do with AI.
1:16:04Like, I don't know if - Right, but what bad could happen? If a bad thing did happen, like, I don't know, and AI just became smart and said, all right, I'm gonna just hack everything. I'm just gonna hack your iCloud. Now I have your buddy's dick pic. Jason. Yeah, and it's just, it releases that. All of a sudden, Nvidia's stock just flaccid. That's a good point. What if AI started to be like, fuck everybody? Yeah, I mean. And it started just sending emails to other people. It just decided. Well, imagine they just love trolling. Yeah. That would actually be low-key hilarious. Just trolling everyone.
1:16:44It must be like a good movie concept. It might be hard to pull off. Yeah. But yeah, if you had AI a troller, that's what they chose to do. Did you troll when you were younger? I didn't troll that much, I don't think. Oh. You know? I mean at first they didn't even have the internet When I was a little kid So you just had to call somebody a name right in front of them So you just had to be there in person You had to show up and do it You had to put in the work Okay, well you could send a letter? Yeah, I guess you could do a letter maybe Just a letter or a recall? Letter was kind of fun as well Because we had a lot of pedophiles and stuff in our area And so we would often send letters I'd send letters to my friends and say they were from And my friend's dad would be like why the fuck is this guy sending you a letter, you know?
1:17:28Just like creating shit around the home or whatever. Kind of creating intrigue around the home. What do you feel like, like, I mean, people are always saying, like, what's next? Do you feel okay coming back from your break? Like, what do you, do you, do you feel like invigorated? Was it hard to, because taking a break's big. I've thought for years I'm going to take a break, and it's very hard to. Well, the thing, the scary thing is, we're taking a break, is if you step off the treadmill, Do you think you'll be able to get back on it? Do you think you'll be as fit to get back on it? Or do you think you'll just hop on and fall off?
1:18:02Yeah And that's for me I feel like You know I'm at a point where I've like Stepped off the treadmill before I'd say around 2017 Where I took like a super long break And then came back and everything was alright So I was like oh okay Like I'm in a place now where I can take a break and it's okay. So I feel like a lot of like YouTubers or streamers or whatever, like always worried that they might not reach the same level they're at if they take a break. Yeah. So they decide to never take a break, but then they go crazy. Like Foozie. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Foozie died at the mall or whatever. He went nuts, bro.
1:18:46But he's, he's gone nuts before. Right. He's done this. and crashed down and then he's done this again and crashed down. So like it's, yeah, it's wild. And the pressure of those, like that's constant streaming. You weren't even at that. You weren't like that. You're, you're, you're more of a vlogger, right? Is that safe to say? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, I mean, I know you do a lot of stuff. Yeah. I mean, nowadays I just sit in front of a camera and laugh. So that's, that's pretty much right. That's like, but it's infectious. And that was my job description in terms of YouTube that it's that. Right.
1:19:19But you didn't have to ever sit there like Kai Sonnet or those guys where they're doing that seven hour stream. I did used to stream. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, when I was younger. No, but like it's not that huge like part of my life. It was like I did it for about I'd say a year or so. Like I just streamed games and stuff. Like this was 2012, 2013 when streaming wasn't really as big as it is now. So, yeah, I was, you know, I did streaming. I did YouTube videos But I did everything You kind of have a You have your own thing I'm definitely not Mr. Beast Mr. Beast is on a completely different level bro Did you see him in North Carolina?
1:20:01Yeah, that's what I went I went there for a YouTuber Like There was 50 YouTubers And he put it in a box And just chaos And only one could survive Yeah man, it was crazy Different challenges left right and center bro so you were competing against other people yeah yeah i was a menace man i was just that for me my idea was i'm gonna just demon well i i kind of like i'm naturally just a nice guy anyway so like you know i went to hi everyone it was cool to see old faces left right and center but then you know as soon as the cameras were on i'm there like i'm just gonna be content yeah my goal is just content like people trying to sleep i'm shouting in their ears like yo no sleeping tonight baby wake the fuck up no sleeping yeah yeah bro well and the thing is because everyone there is a little timid yeah and everyone's a bit standoffish a bit reserved because you know everyone's a big youtuber in their own right like and people have got 20 million 30 million 40 million 50 million subscribers left right and center and what i've got uh on one channel 20 something and then another like 16 something whatever but like i don't give a shit Like for me I'm there I'm just there Here to just Have a good fucking time Like Obviously You know Some people really wanted to win Like the 1 million It was a Grand prize of 1 million But for me bro I was just there Like I'm here Just to have a good fucking time Were the competition Was it fun Is it out yet It's not out yet So I can't explain Yeah The thing The challenges But Yeah It was definitely cool to see Different YouTubers Was it inspiring to see Mr.
1:21:43Beast create something like that? Bro, like he showed me round Greenville, like the different areas that he's bought just for videos. Insane, bro. Bro, man just spent like I don't even know I can say this but he spent like millions on just a bit of land for one video. Just like that. And it's just like he's happy just to do that. And then he, the money that he makes from that, puts it into another video. Wow. He just, like, he doesn't care about profit. He's there, like, reinvest, reinvest, reinvest. And it's just incredible. Bro, he pretty much, like, the only reason you go to North Carolina is for Mr.
1:22:25Beast. That's, like, he runs it. And I was like, it's such a smart model because the most interesting thing in that area is working for Mr. Beast. So he's... It's so crazy. Bro, so he's always got everyone there. Like, gagging to work for him. Because it's like, are you going to work at, I don't know, McDonald's? Or are you going to try and work for Mr. Beast? You're always going to always go for Mr. Beast. Do you want to be a politician? Or do you want to work for Mr. Beast? I want to work for Mr. Beast. Bro, like, do you want to be a teacher? Fuck that. I would like to teach Mr. Beast. I want to, yeah.
1:23:03I would like to be at Mr. Beast Junior High. Exactly, bro. Did you, is it inspiring, kind of? Or do you feel like it's a different? No, not at all. I went in there and if anything, it made me go, yeah, I will never reach this level. But I was okay with that. And I'm okay with that. Yeah. That's kind of the point where I was at. Yeah. Because that's interesting because sometimes in life you meet people or you meet like people who are doing things above you or differently than you. And you say, oh, I could do this. Yes. So, but then sometimes that's cool to hear that you also sometimes meet people and you're like, oh, this is amazing, but this is not my thing.
1:23:34Yeah. Yeah. This, I could never like, like, I didn't think, wow. Okay, now I want to be up there with one of the biggest YouTubers in the world. I'm there like, nah, fuck that. Because especially with what he's put into it. Nah, man. Shit's long. Like, I already have been doing so much for so long. So, like, for him, like, he's going on to that next level. Like, I feel like I'm in a good space with, you know, the sidemen. I've got a bit of music here, boxing here. Got my own little YouTube here. If I want to stream every now and then I can. And it's nice. You know, I'm still able to do something with my girlfriend, still able to do stuff with my friends and family.
1:24:13Like I'm able to have a nice balanced life. Him, it's just work. He lives, breathes, sleeps, work. That's a lot. But like, that's why he's the most subscribed YouTuber in the world. Yeah, it's interesting what it takes, huh? Yeah. And I'm there like, fuck that. Yeah. Fuck that, bro. Fuck that, bro. I don't need to do that Put me in my wheelchair, homie I'll be fine JJ, thanks so much, man Yeah, I know, my pleasure, bro For coming and hanging out, man And just making me feel welcome in your country It's really cool Yeah, yeah, yeah And yeah, thanks for starting the celebrity boxing And just like, that's been something Especially throughout pandemic I think it gave a lot of people some weird thing To like, just cheer for Be against or whatever I've got a fight coming up Where I'm fighting two people At the same time I'd say Well it's a tag team Okay Yeah August 31st Yeah And how do you feel about it?
1:25:11I feel pretty confident I feel pretty good I mean I'm seeing it as like a warm up To hopefully fight Amir Khan end of the year What? Yeah But with this it's just like So these two guys Slim and AT Have been like top of their Top of the league when it comes to Misfits Like they've pretty much been Most of their opponents Slim has never lost etc so you know for me to fight not one but two of them uh it's gonna be a you know a good challenge so they can tag each other in whenever they want they can tag in and yeah tag out whenever they want and what if one of them gets knocked out then you still have to knock the other one out yes oh yeah yeah yeah wow sick yeah fuck it's exciting yeah yeah so i guess that's we're missing that's what we want yeah we want it to be exciting we want people to be like oh this is not like normal boxing yeah i fuck fuck it i love it and everything evolves that's the thing it's like sometimes we get stuck in tradition it's like i want i don't want things to change i want to think but then everything is always evolved right and it's just the way that things always have been yeah well i mean look look at radio you know but everyone's radio was like oh fuck tv man it's all about the radio then tv came through smashed it yeah now then it was the internet and tv were like oh the fuck's the internet it's not gonna do anything boom the internet it's in your face next up ai is taking over bro humanoids i know come through it come they're just gonna come through bro i just hope i'm okay bro smash through your door there's nothing you can do i'm gonna stay upstairs then if they come i just don't i don't want i'm just gonna stand by the window and just button my button you know how cool would it be i know it's going back to the whole humanoid thing but no it's just fascinates me because the idea of like space travel like becomes a thing like imagine we can just take with ai you mean oh because it'll tell us how to do it well no no i was thinking more taking a humanoid ai and just sending it off oh like it can go to mars right we have like practice humans then it's to give a crash test dummy that can actually fucking yeah exactly give a ring back and let you know what's going on.
1:27:25What's going on? You good? What's up with your systems and everything? Yeah, yeah. How's your systems, man? Hey, what's your sister up to? And he's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, because people are perverts, dude. The second the guy reports any information from Mars, you're like, hey, where's your sister? You're going to be going to a while. But no, you're right, dude. We won't even have to be the aliens. We'll just create them. Yes. And then we'd be able to like just conquer different planets what about so if certain countries get the robots and the robots will fight the wars for them oh shit yeah but then but then how would that work then it would just right nobody would win really yeah it just but it would be a whole new league of sports though well would you uh last point is because i was talking to my girlfriend about this is having sex with a humanoid cheating no way so she was like well it is but then i'm there like oh so then you consider a humanoid robot as human it would have to depend on how human if it puts its makeup on then i would say yes but if it just kind of stands there and is like, let's do it or whatever, then I would say no.
1:28:50How would you feel if you had your girl? Oh, see, that's not fair. She was just getting destroyed by this. Like, yeah, why are there... By this big black robot? He could be fucking... Great, now even we have to worry about the black robots. That's the most messed up part. It's like, even the black robots are taking our women, dude. Come on, bro. Yeah, imagine you come home and you're sitting there and like three robot dudes come and just sit. You're like, what? I thought we had a date night tonight. He's like, we do. JJ, man, thank you so much, dude, for all the years of entertainment. And also spending time with me, man.
1:29:34Congratulations, dude. I think it's really inspirational to just see what you do and just your attitude to take breaks and to just be transparent about some of the stuff that goes on. it's important because a lot of people are in this space now and in this world because it's the world we live in. And, and, and they want to be able to learn from people that are willing to share honestly about what goes on. Well, and likewise, man, like, you know, I've seen your come up. It's been phenomenal, man. Like the way, you know, you just, I think for me, I saw a lot of your stuff just on TikTok. Yeah. Just how fucking random you are.
1:30:07Yeah. It was absolutely amazing to experience it in real life. Oh, thanks. Just the random things you say Just out of thin air It's just hilarious Well thanks dude I used to feel more creative Did you ever used to feel more creative? Yes yeah yeah Isn't that weird? Yeah I don't know why It's just Maybe we're still as creative But we have to just churn out more Yeah maybe that's it Because there's just so People just want more content all the time. Oh, even three years ago, it seemed like if you put out a really neat clip, it lived longer. Now it's like a week. If that. Maybe even a day. People have forgotten.
1:30:54You could murder. Nobody cares. Four days later. You could murder someone. You could then make another clip that says you were not convicted and people think you're not a murderer now. But you've made it all. It's crazy, though. I feel like a policeman would still remember that. You're right, probably. So you're right about that. Dude, best of luck in the fight's August 31st? Yeah, bro. Okay, great. And that's streaming on Misfits? That is on Misfits, yes. Okay, great, man. Yeah. And that's going to be, where's it taking place at? Dublin. Free Arena. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mental, right? That's going to be crazy, dude.
1:31:29I can't wait. I can't wait to be at the Free Arena. Apparently, it's such a sick stadium. Yeah. Or arena, should I say. Awesome, man. Thank you, bro. Thank you so much for your time, brother. Sweet. Cheers, bro. Do I just leave now? Or we can just, yeah, I mean, I think we just can be done whenever I just am really I literally just walked in There was no warm up or anything That's how the robots do it It's just raw, raw Hey, look, I might be one of those human God, I would hate that though Imagine you get home and the robot wants to fuck And you're like, give me a few minutes And it's just chasing you around the house What would you do?
1:32:06You'd have to fuck it Because you can't say no Yeah It'll rip a door off Yeah bro It'll say like The fuck is this You think this will stop me What do you mean Yeah We're fucking We're fucking It just short circuits Yeah We're fucking More soup We're fucking When would it stop I don't know Maybe As in like No when When the battery's down I guess So it could just go on forever What if you try to turn it off From your phone But your phone dies or something And you said it's a heavy fucking right now. All right, we should stop. Yeah, I think we're done, man. Cheers, man. Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take
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KSI is a content creator, professional boxer, musician and entrepreneur based in London. He is known for co-founding the drink brand Prime with Logan Paul, his work with the YouTube group Sidemen, and much more.
KSI joins Theo to chat about his journey in content, business and music, growing up a Nigerian kid in London, and the recent takeoff of his brand Prime (and how he almost passed on it).
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