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38:54I don't know. Like, there he is right there, Lloyd Christmas. Okay. She had a little bit of that. No way, dude. Like, he's got a real pitch. A full split? No, she's got kind of a sandwich. No, zoom in more on that grill piece there, Daddy. See how it's kind of got that sand wedge going? The notch out? Yeah. She had a little bit more of a pitching wedge. It was a little bit more there than Jim Carrey has here. But some kids locked us in a room and made us kiss each other. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Some kids locked you two in a room? And said, you guys better fucking kiss each other or you're not coming out.

39:35And I think one of them called us f***s or whatever. I was like, whoa. What? at least hold on dude well all right let us figure it out a little yeah but uh it was just you know just older mean kids during the summer just bored you know oh no so this is a bad experience oh it's kind of bad yeah i didn't think about that it was kind of bad yeah oh fuck and then i think after that i think oh dude i never thought about it yeah after that i was always so nervous around i was like super nervous around them oh whoa but you know you figure it out and that's part of your deal you know yeah yeah you figure it out and that's part of your deal um yeah was it hard for you to like be in love since your life was going that fast like what was that like um difficult because like uh like i just always always say like long distance love is just it's extremely fucking difficult to keep a relationship when you're constantly fucking going.

40:40It's nearly impossible. Like, you know, to be successful at it for a few years here and a few years there, pretty rare. Did you have any of your marriage? Cause you've been married a few times. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have any that, uh, you felt like you had to go back and make an amends to or something like that are you still on good speaking terms with your ex-wives and stuff or is it yeah well i'm cool with all of them we're cool um you know it's all good did any of it happen so fast you're like gee i don't even know what happened because i can only imagine to see your life like a lot of it just felt like it went so because it just you know things get going fast like my life sometimes gets a little fast i'm like i don't even know what's going on anymore yeah yeah yeah shit flies man um when you spend most of your time just hanging on you're like dude fuck slow down what what is happening here yeah uh yeah was it um what were your parents like were they pretty proud of you and stuff or what was that kind of relationship like with them was it weird becoming famous and stuff and then like um you know what they were super super supportive um i guess you know i'm i'm really lucky um both of them were extremely fucking supportive um you know i go ahead no i think yeah because i think sometimes it's like um i don't know sometimes there's a weird thing about fame where it's like or popularity where it's like you almost feel like you don't belong to you or anyone anymore a little bit like does that make any sense to you like there's so much you out there that you just belong to everybody yeah i don't know what i'm talking about yeah no i i i thought man we should have never talked you know neither one of us knows what we're saying those guys are on some other shit bro they'll they'll rewind and catch up later don't be the mustard catch up well that's the fucking dumbest joke that's awesome i love that one don't be the mustard catch up dude my favorite joke i ever heard is what's the last thing you want to hear when you're giving a blowjob to willie nelson oh i'm not willie nelson oh dude oh dude that'd be the worst to be giving a blowjob to willie fucking and he's like i'm not willy nelson who the fuck are you dude oh my god jesus dude um dude what did i oh i read somewhere that used to do ballerining when you were young did you is that true yeah dude um do you remember it taps tap dancing and ballet um i do remember it and I mean the shit was cool you know like tap dance is still pretty fucking cool I think tap dancing was fucking rad because you're essentially making fucking beats yeah you're basically drumming with your feet you know it's rhythmic and it was right up my alley I loved it and then my sister was taking ballet and I went one time and I was like and it's fucking loaded with fucking just beautiful girls.

44:19And immediately I'm like, oh, I want to do this. So I dove right into both tap dancing and ballet. And then that day happened when, you know, it was like time for the big recital and your picture's in the local paper. And I'm in fucking tights dancing with this beautiful girl. Nobody saw that. And the next day at school, man, it was just like, dude, you are a, what are you, a f**k? Like, what the f**k? And I quit. I quit dancing the f**king next day. I was just like, I couldn't handle the peer pressure. But I'm like, wait a second. All my friends at school are calling me, you know. But I got a chance.

45:02F**king gay. But I'm like, you all are f**king spanking each other in the locker room and whipping each other with towels. like I don't know I don't know where you're getting the gay shit from because I'm here with these girls this is what's happening over here fuck you guys I can't believe I quit I let them fucking I let them dictate it oh yeah so many kids do but I couldn't handle the peer pressure man dude if you did it on ballet with a dip in though they would have fucking came around I bet if you'd have put a fucking big third baseman's chewing your mouth, dude, they'd have been like, this motherfucker's rocking, dude.

45:44That's what I should have done. It is so true. Yeah, it was like so much was dictated by what the neighborhood kids felt, man. Yeah. And the easiest thing for somebody to do is to call you a bitch, call you a f***, call you a pussy, just something to like kind of shut you down. Yes. It's kind of crazy. That's how so much of art like gets kind of really stymied. But I think in your condition, it seems like the rhythm found a way out of your fucking body. It was like, oh, it's got to come out of here. Yeah. You know? absolutely man it's like yeah it's gonna come out of my hands or my wiener eventually too yeah that that thing even had a pay-per-view but um dude i love this bro when i was a kid you know what i used to watch dude i won't even lie about it shirley temple movies dude yeah oh yeah oh yeah bro i'll tell you the craziest story dude i went in it was like one of the first auditions i ever got when i got to la they're like all right you need to sing a song for us dude.

46:35And no way. And I think I just been on something where I've been watching some fucking S temple, dude. And, um, dude, I gotta see this. You're like, no, no. And I sang his fucking some song from something she did. And these people looked at me like, God, this is just something's uncomfortable here. Even them, even they were like liberal probably. And they were all closeted or re re closeted or whatever. It'd been like, you know, they were probably, you know whatever sexual it was an audition right yeah and they're just like we need you to sing now oh dude and i just sang a damn shirley temple song dude oh no fucking way what the hell were you auditioning for and fuck them bro that's what y 'all get bro y 'all don't want to fuck with some real shit y 'all ain't getting any more of it dog so that's that dude but yeah so you went in there you think also to meet the ladies huh oh hands down hands down i went into and watched my sister and in her class there was i was just like oh what am i doing yeah why am i not here yeah i want to be doing this yeah dude oh that's the best man yeah um what about your first time having sex you ever remembered it or no first yes oh yeah was it exciting or scary do you think it was it was both uh yeah it was all it was everything you know like all kinds of crazy shit was it a surprise or was it planned going down for the first time um i guess it was i guess it was kind of planned.

48:19Yeah. Um, it was with my next door neighbor. Yeah. Damn, dude. You didn't even, you couldn't walk down the street without somebody trying to fuck you. Oh my God. I, I, I Brenda, Brenda. Wow. Yeah. I can say the first name, right? Totally dude. Um, and dude, and it was my, and we're talking about my sister earlier, my sister's best friend, like best friend.

48:53I bring Brenda into, my dad built like a room inside. Like a bomb shelter or something? Of the garage, like a soundproof room where I could play drums. Really? And not like bum him out. Yeah, totally. So I had this like little like box inside the garage, little soundproof room. And it was like my fucking fort, you know? And I was like, oh man, I really like this chick. I wanna like, I wanna fucking bang this girl. And so I brought her into my like spot and turned the lights out. Out completely? Was it completely dark? Yeah. Wow. Completely dark. um i don't know why but gosh man but um it's adventurous yeah and we're fucking going at it you know it's there's all that weird shit that's happening you're like whoa this feels crazy what what's going on she's you know all the wit the feelings are going and my fucking sister walks and I'm fucking her best friend.

50:06And she just goes, and she runs and tells my mom and my parents. Did they come in the room then? Everybody's in trouble. We get put on restriction. We're not allowed to see each other. It was a great and terrible experience. Because Romeo and Juliet almost, because you couldn't see each other anymore. Yeah, and we could see each other from our bedrooms. No. And I'd just be like, hey, hey. I'm a dreamer. Yeah, dude. That song comes in. I swear, out of a fucking movie. Oh, sweet. It literally just came into my fucking, just seeing the kids just waving. Yeah, dude. Gosh. Yeah, kind of. Where the hell?

50:59It was both. It was all of it. Yeah. do you remember your first yeah dude i got caught into some bullshit in town and um oh dude the crazy the first time i tried to get a bj right so there was this girl who was doing bjs right and she was like the funniest girl in town like she always made me laugh and stuff like that and and she and i liked each other oh cool and then uh but she had like seen somebody else or something And then she had started doing BJs and I was like, but then, and then she liked me and I was like, oh my God, dude, what if I'm the guy who like gets a BJ amongst our people? I was like, I just don't even know if I can handle that.

51:41Like people being like, how was the BJ or whatever? Oh, you're getting fucking BJs now, you little pussy. Just shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Just fucking. Yeah. Like you just can never win with humans. Right. And so. People suck. Oh, it's unbelievable. Unbelievable, huh? And so I remember like, it was some girl's birthday party and we had planned to go meet behind a tree, right? And so she went over there and the tree she picked, it was a pretty narrow tree, right? And so she was gonna, I was gonna receive the BJ right behind the tree, right? So we go back there, we're kind of talking and it's fucking so uncomfortable.

52:20Like all my fucking blood is literally like, it's kind of hiding from my penis And my blood's like, when do we go? Send us in. And I was like, stay up here. We got to talk. We're good. And I'm like scoping things out. And there's like a dog fucking in the distance, just under a lamplight or whatever. And there's some kids you can hear playing games. It's a birthday. And then she just starts BJing me, dude. And I'm like, and I'm so nervous, bro. Because I always would get super nervous around women when I was young. and then the girl's mom comes out oh no and the tree wasn't that wide and I could just imagine I could see what the mom was seeing she was seeing like me kind of standing like this and I and the girl like low but then like you know the tree was kind of blocking like the actual act and I just remember putting my fucking hands up like this and just looking at the mom like I didn't have anything to do like trying to be like I don't have anything to do with this does this mean i don't know i'm not doing anything because i do like these are the only two hands she could see so like but it was that third hand brother that party hand bro yeah oh my god god and now did you had you had sex no before this is your first time first sexual first sexual real encounter dude i touched a girl's tits in the movies one time watching that movie pumpkin head remember that scary movie no it was called pumpkin head it was real scary oh boy and uh i touched a girl's breast and she had very hard breasts you always kind of build like a fella really but pretty cute and uh dude some kid in pumpkin head got a hand job part of it ejaculated under my fucking arm this kid chad when i was a kid forgot about that no way yeah and he died in a car accident years later oh what the hell he was driving dude he was changing a cd out of his cd player he put a cd into his mouth to put the other one in yeah and he fucking hit something and it just like

54:31no fucking way forgot all about that man it was crazy whoa um but yeah but then i ended up having sex behind a bowling alley in our town like a couple of you are years after that like three or four years later. What happened? Okay, what happened? And this girl just like, she had been having sex and stuff and I was like, wanted to have sex or whatever. And so we just tried to find a place we could meet up that was like near where we lived. And we went back behind this bowl and alley called Tiffany Lanes. And it's closed for renovations right now. But it all, yeah. How do you know that? I was there not long ago.

55:07Oh, shit. And my buddy's the mayor, he said - Return to the scene of the crime, dude. He said they're remodeling it, yeah. What the fuck? Yeah, there you go right there. Tiffany Lanes. Look at the Google reviews. Go to Google reviews on there. Tiffany Lanes. There you go, dude. In Louisiana? Yeah, pretty awesome, dude. Whoa, dude. Oh, I'm here because of Theo Vaughn who lost something precious at this bowling alley so long ago. Oh, my God, dude. But that's kind of crazy. So, yeah, I'm excited that they are redoing it. I'll go back. But, yes, kids were throwing rocks at us and stuff, too, dude.

55:42It was crazy. Wow And so yeah It was hard to keep an erection With like rocks coming Like rocks You know Hitting off a sheet metal And stuff like that But I was just so young That nothing could stop you You know Yeah And then I remember Yeah I went into some girl's bedroom In my neighborhood And I She seemed like an adult Because she smoked cigarettes And she seemed like She was 40 You know She was one year older But just because she smoked And she smelled like cigarettes I was like Oh older woman Yeah Yeah And that was crazy. And then, yeah, but right when we started to hook up, I was so nervous.

56:17I couldn't get an erection. And then her mom thankfully came and busted in on us. Oh, geez. Oh, and I was like, this has got to stop. I just yelled. I said what the mom was going to say. I thought maybe if I said what she was going to say, like it would adjust the, you know, I was like, this has got to stop. I was like, I like this guy. That's where I was at. you know oh my god um this episode is sponsored by blue chew if you want to be as hard as the summer day is long baby then get your a blue chew in your mouth and start nibbling daddy get that lift in your baby i'll freaking i'll gender i'll crack open a gender reveal pinata with this thing baby blue chew is a unique online service that delivers the same active ingredients as Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra for a fraction of the cost and in a chewable form.

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58:01Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information. and we thank Blue Chew for sponsoring the podcast. Dude. Did you, I heard somewhere, and you can deny this, but it doesn't matter either, but you would go on dates with women. You would get paid to go on dates with women. Yes. Was that a real thing that happened in your life? Yes. Yes. And do you have to have like an overseer for that, like a pimp or something for it? There was this lady that was in our apartment complex. She was like a madame. Oh, damn, damn. Yeah, and she was running her thing. And yeah, get paid to go out with these older women and just sit there and have dinner with them.

58:52Or if they wanted to fuck, do that too. Did that for about a year or so, about a year or two. Was there good money in it? Yeah. it's kind of crazy and that was in la i was a hooker yeah kind of i guess yeah fuck yeah dude a male escort i don't know hooker's better yeah hooker sounds like you don't have insurance but you're still gonna do it you know what i'm saying male escort sounds like you're at least applying for some sort of like government aid with it i feel like the one may be referred to as a male Escort Gigolo, it says, female customers, rent boy hustler. Do you remember any of the dates or not?

59:37Yeah, sure. Was it embarrassing or were you prideful about it kind of? Well, you know, if the lady was, you know, if the lady was like an older lady where you're like, whoa, I hope this is just dinner, you know, you're stoked. Right. you're like, oh, you start coughing a little or. Yeah, I'm just going to have dinner and drinks and just entertain her. Yeah. Say my wiener's broken or something. And that's it. You know, yeah, you'd get stoked when that would happen. But sometimes they wanted more? Yeah, and sometimes they wanted more and you're like, oh, man. That part's not fun. Because. I don't know, like fucking when you're not into it.

1:00:26It's horrible. It's a weird thing. Yeah, it's kind of like when you have to dance at a wedding, but you know they're going to get divorced or whatever. Oh, dude. You're like, ugh. All right, I'll go out there. One song. Okay, fine. Yeah, yeah. That's tough. Oh, my God. Dude. Fuck, man. Sometimes you get some hot chicks, though. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. That's cool. yeah dude one time there was a casting director and i invited her to see a comedy show right and so because i was like oh she's gonna maybe show but she was also really cool we kind of hit it off so we're kind of like friends and but there wasn't a cut the place i invited to i had the night wrong and so she came anyway and then so we're just oh she's like we walk upstairs to where the show is going to be it was over on la cienega la brea room five this place is called and we and it's this is not there and i'm like what she came and i'm like i was like well let me at least get you dinner you know and so we sit downstairs we're eating she gives me like half of a weed cookie i never had a weed cookie before so i ate it and like 20 minutes later dude i didn't know i i didn't know if this was my wife i didn't know who this person was i was like am i fucking married and we're out to dinner right now and it's our anniversary i couldn't figure out what was going on wow and um fuck you tried to kiss her what's that i tried to kiss her you know like i'm having a beautiful time with you tonight or something she's like what in the fuck is going on oh my god not your wife whoa oh that was horrible bro and then i laid in my bed for two days i missed my birthday because i was so high dude jesus oh that was bad oh my god dude when y 'all started traveling and getting drugs and stuff.

1:02:19Was it hard to have sex on drugs though? Like, I don't see how you could do drugs and screw, you know? Yeah, I was like with what you said earlier, I'd end up just going back to my room, my hotel room, mostly by myself. Really? As soon as you start fucking doing cocaine, I'm like, I don't I'd rather just party with me tonight. you know i don't have to listen to any bullshit i don't have to lie oh i just i just just me and you are gonna get we're gonna go really fast in this room and and hang out yeah you do that a lot the second yeah i would just i'd rather just be by myself yeah um and get what that is yeah i don't know i would get real self-conscious if i was doing coke around other people too i I think it wasn't fun that much for me.

1:03:15Oh, I was, cause I knew I just wanted to do more coke. I didn't really want to hear about whatever was happening with your life that much. Yeah. And we, I call, we call it, um, uh, lying powder because let's get together and fucking sit around and lie at each other to each other for a couple of hours. Why not? You know, like, you know, you're sitting there and you're making, and you're doing blow with a bunch of people. and all of a sudden you're making all these plans. Yeah, tomorrow, man, we're going to fucking, we're going to go on the fucking lake. We're going to fucking water, wakeboard and fuck, whatever.

1:03:51And it never happens. Never. You just, you know, yeah. So I don't want to get together and just lie to each other. I'd rather just go back to my room and fuck those chicks, you know. Another time. Yeah, another time. In the future, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Oh, cocaine? Well, it'll make you give your email address to a dolphin, dude. It just fucking... You'll fucking tell him. You'll be like, yeah, let's keep it. Let's holler at each other. We're going to fucking... And he's like... All right, dude. You bring your voice. I'll bring my voice. Email me. You're like, what is even... In the morning, you're like, who the fuck is this?

1:04:32Oh, my God. Stay away from me. God. Dude. That would be scary. How bad was it when addiction hit you guys' band and stuff? Was that pretty crazy? Yeah, dude, when it, when. When you hear stories about it, you know, you see like, you know, in the documentaries and stuff you see, you know, and you read about different stories of people going through it. And I know you've gone through it. Yeah. But like, how, was that one of the things that had the biggest effect on a band? Yeah, like when you're looking around and you're seeing the guys in your band, everybody's this close from not waking up again.

1:05:14You know, that kind of shit. And you've reached a level of like doing crazy shit. like when you're shooting fucking Jack Daniels in your arm because you ran out of heroin when you could just drink the fucking Jack and be like oh and just fucking drink we're out of heroin but I mean if we shoot it it'll be fucking better it's just alcohol like when you're doing dumb shit like that we're like I think it's someone's gonna die here soon like we should all and we did as a band we were like you know we'd take handfuls of fucking halcyons they were called and and then we'd fucking and go that and go out for the night but those are all these are all fucking like downers and sleeping pills so like who does that you're you're doing such dumb dangerous shit that everybody was like all right that's it we're all gonna do this together and we just, it was like 89.

1:06:23We all went to fucking rehab. Together? Different rehabs, but yeah. Where'd you go? Which one? I went to this place called Cottonwood. In Tucson. Oh, in Tucson? Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Tucson is fucking retarded, dude. Yeah. Shout out Tucson, dude. I still live in Tucson. Tucson is fucking - Out in the middle of nowhere, dude. That's where I did my first Coke with those guys with the oranges, dude. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Tucson is the first place I saw a school bus. Somebody had cut the top off of it and was fucking driving it, dude. That's Tucson. Bear down, dude. In the fucking desert, dude. Yeah.

1:07:04Oh, yeah, bro. That's people. Oh, you'll do some Coke and just eat somebody's ass through a dream catcher out there, dude. It's intense out there, dude. A lot of Zodiac killers and missing people out there, dude. It is. Dude. Oh, you're praying to see the next streetlight out there. Because sometimes it's like far distance between the streetlights out there. Yes. Was that scary the first time you went? Or what was that like? Yeah. I got to be here. Yeah. No, I wanted, you know, I'm sure it's very different to someone who doesn't want to be there. We were all, everybody wanted to. You're like, the only way we can do it is to actually go somewhere.

1:07:40Yeah. Yeah. To actually go somewhere. and if we all do it together our chances of fucking survival are going to be a lot better you know like you know sometimes you just need a fucking a bro you know to be doing it with you oh yeah fucking you know what i mean so all of us did it together and we were like oh fuck we can pull this we can do anything yeah you know it's cool and was it fancy was it a fancier one kind of no no it's just a regular kind of rehab it's one kind of cool thing about rehab you can go to them and it's just kind of like a mix of all types of people fucking wild right oh they're totally wild i went to just uh you're hearing other people's stories going like you know maybe i'm not that bad you're talking yourself into fucking like bailing rehab fuck these people are fucked up let me out of here you're like i could be mayor in a month these people fuck fuck we haven't even got the family day yet yeah this is nuts yeah having a bro in it is the biggest thing man i got one uh a couple buddies in nashville and here too it's like having some boys in and it's like just you can check in with each other you keep rocking for each other and being sober is nice you know it's nice but it's all yeah man it is it is really nice man you know everything just is so much fucking easier and so much i don't know just less drama dude yeah that's drama yeah and you can just wake up and be like okay i can do this today yeah you're not having to sleep in hide pray for gatorade or whatever pray for gatorade god dude that was all that kind of shit was the worst oh my god was there ever a show where you guys just couldn't even go on because you were too fucked up or no no never that's unbelievable to me yeah that is pretty wild because we'd get pretty fucked up yeah before the show but not not fucked up enough to where you couldn't you know to where you couldn't fucking bring it you know because if you i don't know well y 'all's songs that's one thing i was thinking about was you guys's music was high energy so it was like some some some groups they can there's different you know but you guys were i mean every one it almost starts out with the riff even some of the ballads so you're like yeah god you had to be able to show up for it yeah you can't and yeah especially like drumming dude that shit's so fucking physical if you are feeling or if you're fucked up, if drums are, it just doesn't work.

1:10:19Really? It just doesn't work. You're the fucking heartbeat of the machine. Yeah. And if you are fucked up, this whole program's fucked up. Yeah. You know, that's, so you have to keep it together enough. I mean, there's times where you have, you know, had a little too much and you're thinking, oh man I'm fucking smoking right now I'm crushing the shit and you fucking watch a videotape back and you're like what the fuck was that dude okay now you know you can't do that yeah because that's fucked up but you're thinking you're just murdering yeah that's happened a few times and then you go okay that doesn't work yeah that doesn't work yeah um yeah because uh in the dirt there's a lot of stuff where you guys are just partying so hard i mean obviously they do that for cameras you know or for films and to make it look cool yeah did you feel cool about the dirt dude i i was so pumped because it's so raw and so fucking real and um i can't believe they smashed everything into an hour and a half that's a lot yeah they should have made it 10 episodes that's it could have been a fucking mini series like you know like um but just to get that amount of stuff uh in there um is just beyond and it was fucking awesome i loved it man yeah it's it's really mgk crushed it as you too he played you didn't he yeah yeah he did a great job he did dude he was so fucking he was so um i don't get enough credit for that really when i think back on that yeah i mean he did a great job he did a unbelievable job like i've never seen somebody take so much I've known him I've known him for a while and he calls me up and Dave goes bro I got the fucking part I'm like what are you talking about he goes dude I'm fucking playing you I go what he goes yeah dude he goes I got the fucking script I'm coming over and we're gonna go through this bitch line by line and I wanna know how shit really happened because i i gotta pull this off and i want it to fuck i want to fucking i want to make you proud i want to fucking murder this shit oh that's cool he goes and and it's just it's just such a trip because we're kind of the same build the same kind of fucking lanky goofy fucking you know and and he he came over dude and we spent hours hours days going over everything because he wanted to fucking rip it like he was like i gotta fucking nail this and he did yeah he fucking killed it yeah he killed it i remember there being kind of moments i'd be like damn that's mgk and and he's fucking killing it yeah only every now and then would you kind of think that it was him.

1:13:26Yeah. Yeah, I think, and I guess films and stuff like that, they just, yeah, that's hard to do to put everything into 90 minutes. Is it hard for you to even remember some of what went on? You know what? Yes. And that movie was about the book and the Dirt book. They said it was pretty true to form a lot of it, I think. Yes, it's identical, but to answer your question, I didn't, And thank God the other guys remembered shit. And vice versa, we all kind of reminded each other of things because shit's fuzzy for me about this or that time. Depending on what people were going through at the time, people remember or don't quite remember.

1:14:14So it was really that process of writing the book individually. Everybody kind of did their interviews. and you know later you find out oh fuck that's right you know that that's a cool yeah that's cool um it's like yeah it's almost like a time capsule kind of yeah yeah and it's neat to have somebody else there to help you remember too yes that's really the cool a cool gift of it because it's so hard to sometimes just yeah yeah there's so much that that has happened it would be almost impossible especially for us fucking retards to like remember all of it yeah oh dude unbelievable yeah and a lot of it life a touring life is you just kind of get ready enough to walk on a stage the next month you know yeah it's not a ton to it really it's like you go somewhere you get maybe you go out to eat if you're there for two days yeah maybe yeah or you go see one thing if you're in the town the next day like if you're in cleveland you go to like the rock hall of fame you go do something but otherwise it's just like you're just getting yourself acclimated just whatever you have to do to get yourself ready to get on stage yeah and then you're out yeah yeah that's so weird dude i tell people all the time i go i've been around the world a fucking hundred times and i've seen nothing that's crazy literally like a meteor really it hasn't landed yeah every fucking arena stadium bus hotel room like that's pretty much it you know yeah frankfurt what rotterdam what i don't eat yeah you're like arena with a building with a lot of seats in it and a lot of people and repeat that a bunch of places and you're like i really haven't seen much when you started to get more you think about it like oh yeah oh dude see nothing honestly oh sometimes one of my dreams is to get married and have a wife and get a camper and just kind of go around and see even places where i've been you know here's the thing there's no way you can't sound like the dumbest fucking person to your wife because you're like but you were here you're like yeah you were here already yeah no but that's cool like i'll do that like on the tour bus on a day off i refuse to fucking go to a hotel i'm like we're taking the bus and we're going to a lake yeah and we're fucking spending the you get the fucking barbecues out like we're gonna have something different we're gonna we're gonna break the repetition here yeah and go see something and live be human yeah yeah yeah yeah it's funny you kind of give your yeah once you become busy enough you become the business you know yeah and a part of being you you almost get so little time to be yourself does that make any sense man wow you just nailed it yeah man you just fucking nailed it sometimes i even miss myself which is fucking really weird that's that's a good thing man i mean well it's good to be successful no it's good to have the opportunities and you know it's a blessing for sure it's cool that you're connected enough to realize that you miss yourself even yourself you're like fuck man which is yeah it's just it's all interesting the most interesting thing is just to be able to have the experience of what it's like to have some popularity or to be in certain spaces it's just just to even be a fly because you're a fly on the wall but you're you and you're like oh this is just interesting to be here yeah yeah definitely was it hard because i know you got a couple of children you have two i got two boys two boys and it was it hard to decide to start a family when your life was like so when you have such a light like was it like no i always wanted one man i've always been that kind of like you know fucking sucker for romance having a family you know like that whole kind of kind of milk and cookies thing.

1:18:17Yeah. I've always, always liked, you know? So yeah, it was something that I definitely wanted, you know? Did it just kind of become a certain age? You're like, I kind of have to do it now. Did the clock ever start to kind of tick for you a little? Did you ever feel like, um, I don't know. I think maybe I think it was just, you know, right place, right time, right. You know, there's a lot of things have to be right for that to happen, but, just happy it happened man cause yeah that's a good point too I got some fucking amazing boys who are just a dream man what what's something neat about each one of your kids that you really admire something neat about them or something that you admire about each one of them they have some incredible resilience you know they're brought up and you know a lot of not normal situations for them.

1:19:18And they've done really fucking well with just navigating.

1:19:27They're great. How are they different than each other? I think I've met one of them. Dylan is the youngest on the right. I've called him Little Buddha since like, since he was born. He's just like the reverse of his brother, who's more like me, Brandon. Yeah, you can tell, yeah. Yeah, he, the dude flipping the camera off, that guy. I'll be sponsoring him in a couple of years. He's more hyper and kind of crazy like me. So they're completely opposite, which is great because I got like, I got one of each. Yeah, you got a yin and yang going. Yeah, dude. That's cool. Is it really cool being a dad? like what was something about that really surprised you you think over time since you've had the experience i don't think there's a better feeling in the world um as a matter of fact i know there isn't um of having having your your your kids musically okay just imagine you know a musician like myself and all of a sudden i'm in the studio working on a song with my son um and that's going down and my other son who loves music as well everybody's just like everybody's in the mix and i'm like i'm gonna start fucking crying right now because this is the coolest shit fucking ever oh it's ever like dude i can't you know what i mean like yeah you When your kids grow up, they're just some or nothing like their parents and others are.

1:21:08And but to have them both just like really gravitate towards music and and acting. Brandon's been doing is just there's nothing better. You know what I mean? I bet, especially if that's because that's like almost all the things you love right there in one space. Music and your two sons. Yes. So to have that mixed together, that would be super cool. It's it's insane, man. And then, you know, and we're sitting there and, yeah, it's incredible. Well, yeah, I mean, and you were, I mean, you sang on some songs, but you weren't the lead singer, huh? Vince is the lead singer, you guys. Yeah, Vince sings.

1:21:48But some songs you sang on. Yeah, I sing. Some things never go out of style, like trust, reliability, and driving a Toyota. Take the legendary RAV4 and Grand Highlander, designed for maximum space. Hurry in. Offers end September 30th. Toyota, let's go places. I mean, I typically sing. I play guitar, piano, drums, kind of do produce, you know. How much pressure do you realize over time? How much extra pressure is on a lead singer? A lot. It's not easy, man. It's not easy. Because they have to do almost extra work a lot of times, it feels like, too. like taking care of the shit you know and if you're doing it every night you gotta you know it's like it's like it's a muscle you know yeah you gotta take care of it yeah what else in that i'm trying to think of the oh what about the part in the dirt where ozzy snorts that piss is that true or they just made that uh full-on true fuck i know people ask that all the time they're like dude really i'm like absolutely you can't make that shit up yeah to rip a line of fucking piss There's my buddy Tony Cavalero that played him, dude.

1:22:55Dude, he was so high. Yeah. Oh, Ozzy was? All of us right here. We had just come. We had just been on an overnight bus ride, and Ozzy rode with us. So we're all, and we're doing rails the whole way. No one slept. Everyone just drank. So we're at the hotel, and no one wanted to go to their room. Everyone wanted to still keep partying. So we go, let's go to the fucking pool. we go to the pool and at that at that time it was just kind of a thing everybody was into like out rock star and out grossing somebody out like out partying you know like no dude so Ozzy starts Ozzy's wasted he sees there's a little trail of ants going all the way to this kid popsicle that he left on the ground right and Ozzy looks down and fucking just snorts the whole, the line of ants going to the popsicle.

1:23:59And, and, and Nikki's like, okay, well, fuck that. So Nikki pulls his dick out at the pool. This, everybody's, this hotel, the fourth, this is like the fourth, four seasons, I think, in Dallas. Some fucked up and just people, kids, everything. Nikki goes, I fucked up. Watch this. Nikki goes to pee on the ground and Nicky's going to lick up his own piss to outdo Ozzy. Oh, yeah, you got to, recycling. And before Nicky could do it, Ozzy fucking beats him to it and licks up his piss. And we're like, all right, Ozzy, you win. You win, dude. Nap time. Yeah. That's awesome. What they don't show in the movie there is Ozzy's tour manager goes, dude, Ozzy's fucking on one.

1:24:47You're responsible for him. Here's his hotel room key. fuck i'm done i can't deal with this anymore i'm like i got him cool i'll take him to his room so anyway after we get kicked out of the pool area for all that bullshit they don't really go into it in the movie i get off like come on awesome we gotta we get kicked out we got so take you up to your room he goes all right mate i put him we get in the elevator they're going up and he's and there's people in the fucking elevator and he pulls his pants down and he's just starts fucking he's gonna shit he's fucking shitting i'm like ozzy dude no fuck don't shit don't nut dude no and he's like ah we get to the fuck to the floor i'm like come on i'm just trying to get him to his fucking room yeah close the door and like let him he just needs go to bed yeah um so i i take his room key fucking open it up open like push the door open i'm like okay buddy see you later and he's like he goes come here i'm like i'm gonna go he's like no you come here i go in and he's he now he's gonna finish he just starts shitting in the middle of the room oh wow bends down picks it up and starts painting the walls with his shit i'm like oh i'm like i gotta go dude and i fucking bailed and i don't know what happened after that but they don't show that part in the movie just like he had to shit dude yeah but if you gotta shit dude you gotta find other ways to you know like bro just wait till you get to the toilet yeah that's the best way yeah but he wanted to like everybody was just on this like i gotta out yeah fucking whatever i'm an animal i'm gonna paint with my shit yeah yeah everybody's fucking yeah Yeah, everybody's fucking Pablo shit Caso all of a sudden.

1:26:46That's wicked, dude. Dude, I gotta piss. You do? Yeah. Go piss real quick. It's tough, man. It's kind of weird because sometimes you don't really pick who you love, I feel like. Like, you can have an idea of like, oh, I'm going to be in love with this, or this girl looks this way, or in that's how I'm attracted. But then sometimes it's like, you'll just kind of just be in love with something. You're like, oh, this is, I'm in love over here, you know? Yeah. Does that make any sense, you think? the first thing that comes to mind is like best friendship like you know i i think that i think that has to happen before the before the love i don't i for yeah for me it's like i don't know well i think especially you learn that as you grow as we get older sometimes some of that stuff we learn as we grow too yeah yeah yeah i've made choices before sometimes in my life people like oh this and this or but you have to have a best friend that you're like all right every now and then you're like all right i'll fuck my best friend you know you know but if it's just a best friend then after a while you're like oh fuck yeah yeah i just gotta find i gotta get rid of this best friend so i can fuck a little you know i think so it's like you gotta kind of find that middle ground you know i think you know um because you've been married a few times in your life yep yeah yeah um and what have you like and now you're married now to a comedian yep britney furland that's your wife yeah and she's always charming she made this necklace for me too speaking of charms yeah and this is more uh a little more bro it's cool man yeah yeah she's fucking rad she's funny yeah she's um dude like i got my face hurts you know we're just and that's the best friend shit I'm talking about like yeah we've laughed all the fucking time um because we're both silly yeah we don't take everything so fucking seriously and like I don't know we just have fucking fun you know and it's that's a beautiful thing is um what's the longest relationship that you've been in right now it's I think it might be me and Brittany because we're just clocking in at over seven years.

1:29:05Jesus, really? Yeah, and the longest time I was ever married was for seven years. So we're past that now, which is wild, man. I'm like, okay, this is definitely - It's a real thing. Third time's a charm. Here comes that silly line. And how many times have you been married? Fuck. Like, well, technically four, or sorry, technically three, but four times. The first one got annulled, so that doesn't count. And what does annulled mean? What, people just disagree or the ref says no or whatever? I guess kind of like the ref says no. We just weren't married long enough. It was like literally, I think maybe a couple weeks after getting married, it was like, this ain't working.

1:29:48Yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah. And they should have a thing where a month later your friends get to send a ballot kind of and it's like yeah something like that oh so your friends can annul it too like now she she ain't cool man she's gotta go she just took my best friend yeah yeah yeah because you know your friends go they a lot of them go they're good yeah they disappear yeah they just disappear once they get married yeah well you know and if you get married to somebody they don't like yeah and that yeah wow you know how that works have you ever been married no i've never been married i want to get married though i think my career started kind of blooming late in life kind of or like later you know and so it's been like no time for that right now it's been hard and it's tough to even tell girls it's like you know right now you know like or if there's something that starts to build and then i'm out of town and then i come back in town like now where were we and then and then you meet you know and then you start to feel bad that people are like holding out hopes and you're the one who's kind of like you don't want to keep somebody's hopes up fucking it's like fuck i got too much i know and then you just feel like you're well you just feel like you're i don't want to keep like you'll you'll get a kind of a little bit attached you're like yeah this is going good but then you're like you're out of town it's like oh well i know i'm going to be out of town pretty much a lot for the next year so i just have to tell you right now that this is just how things are and if we don't both work pretty hard at this then it's it's going to be tough yeah dude the it's gonna be reality and love i think there's love like it's kind of a hands-on fucking thing you know yeah it's work i mean you have to nurture and it's a bonsai it's like a yeah it's it's funny our our therapist says that all the time like all that work that you put on in on those trees that's you know that same kind of work goes into your partner yeah because well it's funny even when you and britney came in today it seems like uh and i've seen you guys at the comedy clubs and stuff together it really does seem like you guys enjoy being around each other you know yeah it seems funny you guys are like fucking yeah like kind of goofy and she has a lot of energy and it's kind of it's kind of nice probably then too to like because you've had so much energy in your life where it's like, um, you don't have to always be the voltage, you know?

1:32:12Well perceived, dude. It's nice. Go crazy, baby. Go crazy. Yeah. You're like, this is the part of me that's just, it's burnt. It's not, it's still there, but it's just fucking, it's had a lot of damage. So you can entertain me. Sure. Yeah. I had to outsource some of them. No. Like I found a part of me that I really like in someone else. And that's really cool. You know, that's pretty, that's, that's more of a neat way to say it. yeah it is cool man it is beautiful that's awesome dude i think i finally got it right dude yeah yeah good actually i know i got it right yeah cool it's good that's cool man feels nice to say that um did you ever get to meet michael landon before or no no house on the prairie guy Yeah.

1:33:02No. He was a, he got all the ladies, bro, I heard. Yeah. He has a sick ass, or did have a sick ass house in Malibu, like back in the cut Malibu, like the, I don't know what you call that area. Some gated. What about Michael Jackson? Do you ever get to meet him? I did. Really? One time, dude. Wow. At the MTV Awards. um i was presenting when was it 2007 no was it seven or was it earlier than that you've been to a bunch of them yeah i man the date's fuzzy but dude yeah i met him once man and i was so bugged out the date's fuzzy that should be the tommy lee uh the title of your uh autobiography what the date's fuzzy the date's fuzzy because it kind of pertains to just a timeline and dating and everything you know yeah but anyway what am i fucking scripting your life i'm not writing that shit and the fact that i'm geographically challenged i still don't know where the fuck you know like like i was trying to tell somebody like where were you this week and i was like i 1000, Minot, like South Dakota, North Dakota, fuck, I don't know.

1:34:20Like, I just, you know, I'll break down in tears at the airport sometimes just because I'm like, I don't know where I'm at. Because, you know, like if I travel alone, especially because I'm used to having a fucking tour manager. Okay, we go here, we go there. And man, dude, I can't tell you. There's several times where I've been traveling alone where I'll just stop and grown man just start crying. Yeah. I don't know where I'm at. Fuck. Fuck. Where's the smoking lounge? Well, it is true. I mean, part of having that much people around you and support and stuff, you turn into a little bit of a child that does an activity.

1:35:06Dude. That is it. Absolutely. Absolutely. Get this fucking child to the stage. Have him do his activity. Do his activity. And then he's going to ask, where's dinner? Dude. Where do I sleep? I just learned how to send a fucking FedEx package a few years ago. I didn't know how to do it. I'm like, what do you do? Does FedEx, where is FedEx? Do I take it there? Do they come get, like, how does it work? Yeah, do they know you want to send something like, how did this all fill in? Dude. That's great. And just because everybody does everything for you for so long and through all those like kind of, fuck.

1:35:48And some of it, that's the way that some of that gets set up. It's not you necessarily outsourcing your life. It's that those things get put in place around you so you don't have to worry about that or worry about anything because part of the business is you are the business. And so you have to be the business. Yes. You don't have to be the mailroom of the business. and that starts to fall on somebody else's shoulders yeah it's not like you saying oh i'm not going to send my own mail yeah no it's just that's the way things work out yeah isn't that bizarre um and the whole time you don't learn anything you're just like i'm relearning things that i should have learned a long time ago oh whoa dude oh i'm a late bloomer dude i'm like i'm learning shit i should have learned at five or six years old how to do proper handshakes i I mean, I remember, dude, I was such a late learner on so many things.

1:36:38I'm like, dear. Oh, fuck. Oh, yeah. It was just so good night.

1:36:46Well, have you and your wife taken a lot of trips? We have. She doesn't like to go on a lot of trips. So, but we have taken a lot. And actually. Is there a place you guys like to go? She's terrified. of fucking going anywhere. She fucking had, like, dude, I've scheduled or booked just the most beautiful fucking spots, like winter fucking cabins on a lake, like, you know, and had to cancel them because there's no hospital within a couple hours. Yeah. You know, like that kind of shit, or like remote Bora Bora, or just beautiful places we've gone to, but some had to cancel. Trying to get her to go anywhere is really difficult, but we have.

1:37:47Well, and it's nice also if you're having a good time just to be at home too. We're building a house right now and been working on it for, fuck, for three years. Oh, that's awesome. We've built a place that doesn't require vacations. I'm making my house so fucking rad that I don't really need to go anywhere. Yeah. And for her too, she doesn't, she's going to never have to go anywhere. Cause you can be like, oh, this is fucking rad. Like this is sick as shit ever. Yeah. Where's the front desk? I'm on vacation. Yeah. That's sick. Yeah. So. Oh, that's a neat idea. Hopefully I've fixed that problem for her, but cause she doesn't dig traveling at all.

1:38:29Wow. It's kind of nice. So it probably saves you some loot too. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Do you guys keep animals at the house? Have you been an animal guy? Yeah, dude. I've been a dog guy for a long time. We got two wieners. How big is a wiener dog? Like little. A wiener, about this little. All right. I'm going to just let the camera. About this little, about that thick. And if you had to compare it to your actual wiener, who wins, you think? To an actual wiener? to your actual, you're the guy with the wiener. The rest of us are just kind of milling around the area. Right, right. You know what I'm saying?

1:39:10The rest of us are kind of fucking loitering, dude. You're the fucking fire truck, you know? We're the guy running with the pail of water. You know what I'm saying? So, oh, damn, now this shit is getting a little. That shit's beautiful. That's getting a little crazy, dude. That's Teeny the Weenie. And where was this at, dude? Was this at a P.F. Chang's, dude? Where is this? That's at my old house in Calabasas. Oh, that is pretty cute. Yeah, we must have just got her. Oh, yeah, you can tell. She's a little bit bigger now. I think you saw her earlier. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Some of this looks... She's teeny, dude.

1:39:50Very illegal, but also cute. Yeah, so fucking cute. Yeah, little dogs is nice. Do you ever own a parrot? Any other animals? We've had a couple birds. Haven't had great luck with birds. Yeah. Dude, one time I went to Vietnam, right? And so you go there. I was a student. And you get dropped off. And the taxis, whenever you show up there, the first place they take you, you could say anything. I want to go to this. I want to go to a museum. I want to go to the - Where was this? In Vietnam. Oh, you've been there? Yeah. So you go and you said the first thing. I was a student. And we were like, we want to go to this museum, whatever, this like something.

1:40:27but no matter where you say they take you to hookers or whatever you can say anyone want to go to mcdonald's they take you to fucking make pussies right we got it yeah so we fucking get out at this museum it's one story and it's a pet shop it's like we're like what the fuck is it everybody speaks uh yet to me so you don't know what's going on i walk inside a couple birds a couple i don't know it's cats or whatever it's like kind of vague and then these ladies come out of the back and um topless right so we're like oh what the fuck look at pet shop topless pet shop yeah dude like damn dude yeah that b sean ate that lady's bra you know jesus so next you know we're in the back and they're trying to jerk everybody off and just get seed out of everybody and jesus and i got super nervous because they had us all in the same room and i was like i'm what i don't even i don't even speak of the language i'm like looking at they have a picture menu i'm like kind of looking at that and trying to negotiate rates or whatever like oh yeah dude i will get 30 off some fucking tits if i can right so i'm like trying to see what the different options are anyway i get really freaked out because one of my buddies starts getting a blowjob it's just all right it's just right there and it's crazy you can hear the animals oh dude and it's just really crazy and uh and one of the parrots kept saying like pervy shit you know like fuck Harrison you know we're like come come oh no come papa oh my god and so it's just like what the fuck is it man but yeah I've never really been a pet owner I guess that's kind of that's the closest thing I've really been a part of except I slept in the bed with a girl one time with a great Dane oh shit yeah and she made it sleep right between us and I was like this feels kind of gay dude he was big dude and black yeah they're fucking people size dude he was big Like he definitely played Juco ball somewhere.

1:42:19Like this thing is fucking huge, you know? They take like horse-sized shits. Yeah, I'm not dealing with that. Giant. Yeah. No, dude, that ain't cool. What was the first pet you ever had? First pet was a monkey. My dad brought a monkey from Thailand. Wow. Yeah. That's the first pet. And was it in a box or how'd y 'all keep it? It was outside in a cage. Like my dad, he built the cage. He fucking built everything. He built a cage and that's where he lived. But that's where he'd sleep at night. But he basically had little diapers on and would just fucking rip it around the house all day. And he'd party.

1:43:06Oh, dude. Wow. Party. Maybe that's where you learned some of it. Yeah. What the fuck? Like this thing can fucking rock. Yeah. that so fun so fun man and how did it pass away it had a heat lamp outside and um we had a fucking it got really really cold um and we had a power outage and the fucking heat lamp went off and he He fucking, in the morning, he was dead. I think we had like, he froze to death. I don't know how he died, but we had like really shitty super cold weather. I think it actually even maybe snowed. What town was it in? In Covina. Oh, out here. Yeah, it's where I grew up. Wow. Damn, it's a bummer.

1:44:03Yeah. You think of, dude, 99 out of 100 times, you think a monkey would survive a night in Covina. Yeah. I mean, it's not like extreme here at all. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. My apartment is on the street where, who was the guy from Jane's Addiction? The guy who wears the kind of the makeup, handsome guy. Dave Navarro? Yeah. Where his mom got murdered on the same street. Oh, shit. It was kind of crazy. Oh, whoa. That's where you lived at? I lived just down the street from there. Oh. Yeah. Oh, whoa, cool. dude who else one time i went to perry farrell's house for a one-year-old's birthday somebody fucking invited really yeah and it was just there and um i'm just walking around and then there he shows i it was just you know sometimes nice houses to let people friends have their birthday party kids birthdays there uh-huh i fucking relapsed at a one-year-old's birthday party dude oh my god what the fuck dude what hey look man how does that even happen god is good dude i don't know how it happens but we just keep it moving and it was it was what it was man whoa i didn't expect to that's why i went i was like oh i'm definitely i'm gonna go to a place i can't get in yeah yeah and then you have a couple wines or whatever and then it's just it was just bad at a one-year-old birthday

1:45:29what uh did you ever get to meet maryland manson oh yeah yeah it's cool yeah that was my first concert he's a fucking he's a he's a fucking great guy yeah i really hear really interesting things about him cat bondi is close with him and she speaks a lot about him yeah you know she mentions him a lot you know yeah he's he's he's a fucking he's funny man was there um oh that's you and him oh yeah oh that's cool he has a good sense of humor oh yeah dude he's he's fucking he's definitely a, he's a fucking tweaker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's actually. B.Y.O. Blinds, huh? Yeah, yeah. He's fucking wild.

1:46:10He turned me on to some fucking, man, this crazy, we drank a fucking shitload of this absinthe in Europe, his thing's absent, and showed me like, I don't know, I'd seen this shit called Green Fairy or whatever. It's green. But he had some other, I started hallucinating on the shit. If you drink enough of it, you start to slightly hallucinate. And it was purple colored. And it's an alcohol as well? Yeah, it's full on alcohol. Strong as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, and you drink the shit on fire, like you light the sugar cubes and the sugar melts into the absinthe. Oh, shit. It's a whole like a ritual thing.

1:47:06Yeah, ritualistic. I like that. Yeah, it's dark. I could see him getting into some ritualistic shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This absinthe really make you hallucinate. Absinthe liqueur is a combination of spirits and herbs, mainly fennel, anise, and a type of wormwood called artemisia absinthium. that's what it's named after Van Gogh and Picasso were big fans of Absinthe back in the day along with other artists some believe that Absinthe induced hallucinations partly inspired some of their greatest works wow right do you look at bands nowadays cause you guys fucking rocked you guys were almost like the industrial era it's back when you actually had to actually make the fucking sounds you know like now it's like you don't have to make the sounds anymore the sounds are all programmed or whatever you guys had to actually fucking go out there and make them you know make them record them yeah do you look at band i mean you look at n say or like rascal fight you're like what the fuck is even going on here not them specifically but do you ever look at modern band you're like this is yeah i hear i mean yeah i hear it i hear it all the time are you disappointed in how music has evolved or is just this is what it is and it's like you're fortunate the time you got to be in do you ever get jealous of the time that people have like you know not that you're still not making a lot of music and that yeah yeah but it's like you guys are still the ones let's go out there and fucking you know yeah i you know what dude i guess the good thing is i'm such a fan of so many styles of music that i enjoy all of it so um whether you make it raw and live off the floor or make beats you know or play you know record in the box in the computer and edit and I've done it all different ways so I really I just like good music um I don't really care how it was made um so yeah it doesn't it doesn't really it doesn't bug me you know like I don't go like ah that shit today sucks yeah because there's some really great stuff and yeah there's some shitty stuff yeah but I do like so many different styles.

1:49:15I'm kind of all over the place. I'm probably not a good guy to ask that question to because I don't know. Are there things that you miss about the rise of things like when things were starting because sometimes you don't realize when things are popping like in the beginning that that's the moment, you know? You know what I miss more than anything, dude? I miss the fucking mystery, man. I miss the, you know, like there's people that I just, I absolutely just think the fucking world of and it's guys like who are like, I think they're chameleons because they're always changing. Guys like Prince never did fucking interviews.

1:49:52You always wonder like, what's that guy do? The mystique, I miss that. Now we're just like, we know everything about fucking everybody's lives, whether you want to or not. And there's just no like, there's no fucking mystery, man. And that's a big part, I think, of any art is the mystery of it. You know, like, what did that motherfucker eat in the morning? Or like, what? You know, just like, what? All the question marks are gone. And you don't see that in new music. There's no, you know, I'm not sitting here going like, fuck i gotta i gotta get down to tower records and wait fucking you know overnight for this record to drop that just god oh that was so true it's like well even looking back on those magazines and stuff like that's how we knew little pieces of shit that's how you it was like sebastian box head was fucking bleeding he had no idea why he didn't know where the picture was and the fucking they did they told you to blur yet but you're like fuck dude and it's a still picture it's not a video no documentary on the whole thing like fuck dude we gotta see him when he comes here you know we're like what is going on and then you start making shit up in your head like and that's where that's where it creation came from where creativity came from yes you you came up with how it may have happened dude in waiting outside to get like tickets to something dude whether like it was to go see the crew whether it was to go see guns and roses um uh Dio lock up the wolves, like whether it was to go see fucking 311, like you'd have to wait out all night, right?

1:51:41And thankfully, some kid would bring like his 11-year-old brother and people would get him fucked up for the first time in the parking lot. Yeah. You'd just be watching this fucking like little fat kid fucking like take off his shirt and fucking eat bugs and shit. Oh, my God, dude. And that would get you from two to four, and then somebody would go to the donut place, and then it would be six, and they'd open at nine. Yes, hold the line, dude. And there was still only five people out there, and it would have been fine if you came at 9 a.m., but nah, motherfucker. We waited all night for tickets.

1:52:11That was something to be said. It was like a badge of honor. Yes, yes. And you didn't know what happened. Like, even when I saw Manton and Twiggy Ramirez, I think one of them, he cut the other guy's stomach or opened with a bottle. The ambulances came, took the guy out of there. What just happened? Dude, yeah, I remember being in the bathroom. I was like 14 years old. some guy goes how old are these kids in here and somebody goes i don't know they look like they're about 14 and somebody's like somebody's gonna touch them tonight somebody said that and we never even heard that before like what is going on but they took they took the the the whoever he cut with the box and we have we had no idea what happened that's just your imagination like where the fuck is he you know yes dude i that as i missed out yeah i missed that man i missed it is a possibility kind of and and and and the other thing along with the mystery is i wish there was less because there's so much dude i'm a fucking musician i'm in this business and if i can't keep up how the fuck is just a fan who's not a musician or just like a fan of music keep up if i can't Yeah.

1:53:26Dude, there's so much fucking music. Fucking dude, there is so much fucking music. It is insane. Your neck would snap off. And it's just like, how do, and I feel bad for like, for, for, for young people. I'm like, how do they find music? Like, just like, fuck. It's just, it's too much, dude. There's not, there's no place to, I mean, I guess that must, maybe it's the opposite. Maybe there's the thrill of that hunt of trying to find something in the barrage that you're like, dude, I found this out there. Yeah. Maybe it's reverse and I shouldn't feel bad for people, but there's too much. There's too much?

1:54:16Too much. Was there a band that you loved that fell off or that had a singer pass away? Was there something in your time, a group that you really missed? Oh, fuck, man. A few. Fuck. Nirvana. Oh, yeah. Did you guys know them or not? Didn't know them as Nirvana. Just knew the music? Just through the music, yeah. And later, you know, become friends with Dave Grohl and stuff like that. Oh yeah, I just read his book recently. But yeah. It's cool. And fucking Soundgarden. Yeah. Fuck, there's been so many, they were a real big influence on me. Fuck, Soundgarden. Fucking Alice in Chains. Dude, there's been so many great fucking - Oh man.

1:55:05In the box. Yeah, that was good.

1:55:11yeah bro when those things came on when that shit happened there was something about it being real and it was just like there was a starting part of you that started to fucking purr dude acdc bond scott there's another fucking great one like dude nobody sounds like that guy uh-uh um so yes there's been a lot I've seen yeah fuck yeah god dude bro this dude in our neighborhood this dude Eddie he got a 5.0 fucking Mustang right and I remember he put two of the most busted chicks who were also the best looking girls in our neighborhood in it yeah he made them sit on the back right like like open he'd sit on the back trunk but with their legs inside right and he'd kind of just drive them around town like it was a parade you know no way It's because somebody finally had a car and somebody finally had two chicks in it, right?

1:56:01It was like people in our neighborhood were like, fuck yeah. Yeah, bro. We've all got a chance, dude, right? Yeah, bro. And he bought them both daiquiris one time, these girls. Oh, God bless them. And he came over and he was just kind of fucking chilling in the street. And then he played back in black and he fucking floored it. And both of them fucking tumbled right out of the fucking back, dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. and I think he left town he was so ashamed just like the fucking amount of shame that people would have for shit but god that was fucking awesome dude that sounds awesome yeah when the closest you could get to rock and roll was just some kid in the street was just throwing a fucking rock against a stop sign and hearing that fucking ping yes the doors were rattling because the kids got fucking like you know 318s in the trunk some rock for five skates or whatever and that bitch is just yeah the whole caps are just fucking falling the lights are breaking parts are falling off it's a brand new car he gets two blocks he gets pulled over from not having everything oh man it was quite a time man it was the best time yeah dude you know what that's that that statement right there um that's one of the fucking coolest things ever.

1:57:24When people watch The Dirt, that's one of the biggest things I hear from people. They're like, from the younger kids, they're like, man, is that what it was fucking like? Like, all this shit's real, right? I'm like, yes. And I'm like, they'll never know, and that's what they say. They're like, we can't even imagine that. You can't do any of that stuff anymore. You guys just fucking, that part, it's a nice thing to hear, but it also bums me out because that was at a time where anything fucking goes, dude. Anything goes. There's no Instagram or like people with cell phones taking pictures and like ratting you out or anything goes, dude.

1:58:24And the moment had so much value because it was all you had. Yes. You weren't going to be able to relive it later. Like maybe you get a still image, but the fucking moment. Dude. Now the moment sometimes it's just like, even the moment's like, I'm fucking give up. Yeah. It's like I can't compete with the repetition of me that there is out there. that's what I feel like so many times yeah dude and even storytellers had more value because you had to tell the story dude the best thing was I'd go somewhere nothing would happen I'd go to school the next day and everything had happened yes and it was like fuck yeah dude dude the moment bro yeah it was so cool right right but I guess we just got to keep making those moments yeah we We got to do our best, you know?

1:59:12And you do it by taking on a new marriage. That's seven years. That's congratulations, man. That's amazing. Oh, thanks, buddy. And building a new house. Yes. And keep trimming our trees down to keep the shit, what we want, that's important to us, like our sons and our music. And keeping alive all the fucking stories as much as we can, you know, by sitting and talking with people about them. Yes. Thank you so much, Tommy. I appreciate it, man. It's nice to get to know you. And thank you for fucking just, yeah, making me fucking angry at everybody in my fucking neighborhood, dude. In a fucking awesome way, dude.

1:59:52Dude, I would sing girls and then jerk off. And I'd be like, I feel like I just was on a date, you know? Like, it was just fucking awesome, dude. We heard girls and we're like, we're going to get girls, dude. And we never got girls, bro. But we fucking sang that shit, dude. Dude, I fucking love you, man. God, it was fucking good. Fuck! Thank you for having me. And I look forward to our friendship, man. Thanks, man. Y 'all want to come and see the trees, man. Yeah, for sure, dude. For sure. And I love your wife makes me laugh so much. Her and Brittany Schmidt have a podcast. Bring it up right now.

2:00:28I just want to see it real quick. So I have to have them come on sometime. Oh, you're having them come over here? yeah sometime yeah dude that's right we need some fucking white bitches in here sorry and I'm talking about Brittany Schmidt I'm not talking about your wife this is the worst podcast yeah with Brittany Furlan and Brittany Schmidt so Tommy Lee thank you for everything dude yeah bro I hope you stay alive for absolutely ever fuck yeah fuck yeah likewise now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take You