E525 Jessie Murph

24:14What motivates you the most? That's a great question. Yeah, probably some spite, probably. Spite. Which is just, yeah, it's like revenge's fancy cousin that wears a tie, I guess. 100%. Yeah, what is it? Oh, proving something to people? Right. Spite. Yeah. I'm telling you. Yeah, it's like, oh, I'll show these. and then I used, you know, things you don't say at church or say to your grandmother at your grandmother's house, you know? Exactly. So you start to write a song, right? You write your own songs? Yeah. Yeah? Yes, I'll collaborate with people sometimes, but I always am a writer. Really? So your first album was mostly your own?

24:52Yes. Wow. Yeah. Dude, it was so good. Thank you. Yeah. Damn. I mean, I feel weird as like a man saying that because I almost feel like it's, I don't want to say it's music for women because music can be for anybody. It can be for anybody. Yeah. then were you going through it I don't probably I've been going through my whole life so I think I could just I was like what the fuck is going on here and so yeah there were so many things I was like yeah I just loved it and it was kind of weird because I would tell my buddy I was like have you heard this girl and like what the fuck are you talking about dude you know put some guar on bro or something you know put on something dangerous let's be real Most guys would wear a t-shirt every day of their lives if they could.

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28:31Really? And it kind of went through there. Yeah. Okay. But I don't really remember how all that happened. It felt like such a blur of time. And my mom also like helped me with a lot of it. She did? Because I was so young. Yeah. And is she pretty smart? Yeah. God bless her. Good woman. What does she do for a job? She works at a transmission shop. No way. Yeah. Really? Family business. No way. Your family does, your family's not trainees. what's the term called? Transmissioners. Yeah. That's awesome. That's gotta be it. Dang. So your dad sometimes has like grease on his arms or whatever? No, I mean, no, I don't know.

29:11But how do they get them out of there? What? The transmission shop? I don't know. I don't know. She works. She doesn't like build transmissions. Okay. So she's not a mechanic. No. I see. That'd be crazy though. Okay. Yeah. Could be a little bit strange. Maybe my mom dated a mechanic. I think for a little while. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I think she just needed new tires to be honest with you. But, you know, you got to do what you got to do. So. Happens. Yeah. Things are in alignment. She gets the new tires though? Yeah, we got them. That's what I'm talking about.

29:46It's all about that PSI, mommy. That's what we need. Filling bad boys up, dude. So I saw you in Boston perform. How do you get from where we're at? like where you're in your town to that place. Like your mom puts deals together, something. You fly to where? Los Angeles? New York. New York. Yeah. Whoa. Was that your first time ever going? Yeah. A hundred percent. I think the first place I ever went was Miami. And I spent a week there and just made music for a week. With producers? Yeah. Okay. And that was my first time like going anywhere for music. It was my first time like going on a plane other than for like cheerleading.

30:25Yeah. It was crazy. It must have been so exciting, huh? It was so exciting. It was so exciting. And I just remember being so like, oh, my God, I want to do this the rest of my life. I fell in love with it. But, yeah, I don't know. Everything just feels like a blur. Yeah. How do you feel when people ask you? Oh, yeah, now things certainly feel like a blur. And then sometimes you can't even remember what you were doing. It's like, I don't even know. You're right. You just somehow got where you are. Yeah. You know? Yeah, like I've always kept working. I've just kept going forward. Exactly. You just have to keep doing it.

30:56Yeah. So, yeah. So maybe we don't even have to learn about all that stuff about you. You know, it's just here we are. Do you have like a pre-show routine in that you do? Like, tell me about it. Take me through some of that. Okay, pre-show, what I do. I'll have a Red Bull every time. And I'll put on, lately I put on Sexy Red every time. I mean, you got to do it. Shake that ass for Drake. Exactly. That's what I put on before I go on. Get It Sexy is the song. Oh, yeah. The last song I play before I go on. And, yeah, that's really all I do. It's not too complicated. That's it? Yeah. And what's in your green room kind of?

31:32You have some candles in there? What do you got? I try to have some candles in there. Like a good vanilla one. Oh, yeah. Like something really sweet, probably. Like a, yeah, something that reminds you of like a car freshener. You can tell you grew up poor if your candles match your car freshener smells. Damn, that's fucked up. That's true, though. Damn. Yeah, I actually, I realize that a lot. Like, hey, light up that new car smell. candle you know i get it though yeah bath and body works oh god you go there nobody used to go there to get like presents for your girlfriend or something you have to go in there it's a good place and it was so embarrassing some lady comes over in an apron and she's like how can i help you you're like i'm in love with somebody i gotta prove it to them you know i need a damn scent that expresses my fucking feelings how many times did you go there you think probably three or four times For girls, the same girl?

32:23Yeah, probably two different girls maybe. Damn. But it was what it was. I got in there and got out, you know, did what I had to do. Huh? It did the trick though? Did the trick. Every time it's going to work. Yeah. My first girlfriend was kind of like a – she was like pretty masculine, I guess. And she would – the school bus would come and my brother's friend, it would pick them up first. So they'd already be on the bus and she would pick me up and give me a kiss goodbye at the school. Wow. How old were we? She played second base We were seventh grade I don't know what grade she was She might have been Forty years old But she would fucking I remember And they would You could hear them The windows would be up Because the driver would get mad He put them down You could hear them Howling through the bus windows No What was her name?

33:07I don't want to say it Because I'm sure she's a beautiful Sorry I didn't mean to do you like that I think she just You know some people She's a late bloomer You know No I actually feel like Girls probably like Mature faster at that age Oh she was just tall So she was just tall She was tall She played second base. Come on, dude. This is a lot. Damn, that's a weird image in my head right now. This is a lot. And I didn't hold onto that gait or whatever. She was real. She held me up, dude. I didn't have a choice. She played second base, I think, on the. For what sport? I don't know. Hopefully not baseball.

33:39But all I'm saying is was she was a tough gal. And I was just glad that we had each other for the time that we did. And that's when you got Bath and Body Works for? Yeah. I remember getting her something. And she wanted like a lot of like Atlanta Braves, like baseball gear and stuff like that. So she did play baseball. Yeah, she really did. You had it right the first time. She played, yeah, she played a woman's baseball. Anyway, yeah, I'm trying to think, what do I have in there? So I'll have like a yoga mat. Oh, yeah, they're sexy right there. Bring her up. Wow. That was a good one. Yeah, that was fun, dude.

34:10She's so good. And I just got, and I walked in this, if you're listening on audio, it's just a picture of me in Sexy Red. and then there's a, I have this Suicide Boys shirt on and I'd just gotten that. There was a room next door. I was asking, I was like, you guys know where there's a clothing shop? And like the people right next door have a bunch of clothes and I just walked in there and they had that shirt. Like right next door to you? Of Suicide Boys. You ever heard of them? Of course I've heard of them. Yeah. I just found a song that I really like by them. Is it called Dust in a Vase? No, is that one good?

34:39I only know one song. Really? And I love it. Maybe I should dive in. Are there Rose? I'm trying to think of the one I like. but sexy was cool man and yeah I tried to invite her out to do something but she got pregnant which is kind of the same thing because a lot of women are like I can't I have to wash my hair but she's like hey I got pregnant that's one hell of an excuse and I know I was like I even asked my buddy I was like you don't think she got pregnant just so she didn't have to go out with me he's like you think some woman would get pregnant because she doesn't want to go out with you dude you're an idiot I mean that's commitment though It is commitment.

35:16That's some real like people pleasing shit right there. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. Oh, and then. So, yeah. Before my show, what will I do? Yoga for like 34 minutes. Really? Actually? Yep. A hundred percent. Like regular yoga? Hot yoga? I do yoga with Adrian. It's just on the computer. Okay. And I'll put my yoga mat in my green room. And then I will have like a couple sips out of a coffee. and I'll listen to some FGL or some Boosie or maybe some Morgan and then I'll go out there. Okay. I like this routine. Yeah. The yoga's good. Yoga makes you feel good. It's actually, how long have you been doing it?

35:52I've been doing it for maybe six years. Wow. So I do it probably three times a week right now, but it just makes you feel, I don't know, it makes you feel pretty alive, I guess. You do like complicated yoga? Hell no, dude. You said six years? Like bird or bald eagle or whatever that stuff is. Damn, you know the names for all of them? Whatever that other one is. Hurt Camel or something. I don't do any of that. I don't know. What does that one look like? I haven't heard of that one. You got to be a woman to be able to do that one, I think. But it's, yeah, I think there's just a lot of different ones.

36:21So you got to do some cool collabs, yo. Right? Yeah. Some great collabs. Pretty crazy. Jelly Roll. Called you his little sister. What did he say? Yeah, you talked with him, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. I love Jelly Roll. I mean who doesn't No he's the best dude I've ever met I know Such a great man I almost wish there were more of them Or if they just turned him into two eclairs No But no you gotta have Jelly Roll Jelly Roll's too good When you guys made this video Wild Ones This was um Cause this whole thing's just like It's not one shot Was it how long did you guys How many times did you guys do it I don't know You know what's fucked up I don't know if Were you really there No that to me I was there But I don't think I don't know if I've watched the full video I don't like to watch them back really?

37:08yeah I know it freaks me out I don't like to watch it yeah why? fuck is that bad? I should start watching the whole video no I don't listen to my podcast really? no no that'd be weird yeah and you would just be sitting there forever and then if people see you listening to it fuck sometimes I'll feel bad like I'm in the airport editing it or something and I'll see someone if they see my computer and like oh god it's sad Theo listens to his own podcast you think so Makes me feel sad sometimes, but. Right. I feel weird. It's like, it's not my business to be watching it. That's a good point. Right.

37:41It's your business to be making it. That's it. Yeah. So like, yeah. What are some collaborations? Cause like, so collaborations so far you've had Coe, Jelly Roll. Diplopology. Diplopology. Maren Morris. Maren Morris. That's. That's a lot. That's it. People love collabs. I feel like. I'm a collaborer. Really? I love collabs. Yeah. Yeah. Do you prefer if it's with a male or woman? I've only done one with a girl, but I think I'd like to do more. Yeah. It depends on the song, you know? Yeah. You got to pick and choose wisely, you know? And is that kind of the hard part? So do somebody pitch you a collaborator first and then they pitch you a song?

38:21Or how does that work? Or do they pitch both of you guys a song at the same time? Well, since I write my stuff, it's like I'll make a song and I always make it just for me. I never like make it thinking about like this is going to be a collab. Right. So I'll make it and then I'll just have to delete my second verse. Oh, and let them put something in. Because they have to get to write their own stuff, huh? Yeah. Most of the time. Especially if it's a guy because the perspective is normally different. You feel me? Yeah. Who would you collab with if you were a singer? Oh, wow. Would you be a singer or would you be like a rapper?

38:52Oh, I was hoping you were going to say dancer. But I'll – oh, I don't know about a rapper. If you had to start a music career right now. you know what i would be i would think i would be like a country dj kind of okay that's fire because i don't think there are enough of those right well i hate is you go to edm club or something you go to like a uh you know even in vegas you got some of the nightclubs a lot of times it's like you know it's diplo john summit chain smokers all good stuff right love fun to go to fun to listen to but they never have like that a dj that's kind of like a country dj but the same place i feel like if you did like a country DJ in some of those places it would like people would love that too.

39:33You got a point. You know? I really feel like there aren't enough of those. It's crazy. What are you doing? Side hustle? Well then I just think people would I think people would be like what the fuck is this dude doing? And if it was bad it's like I'm already doing one thing but if I could do something oh I know what I would be a Christmas singer. You think so? And you only sing at Christmas? Like caroler? Yeah maybe that way I only work one month out of the year. And when they know when I show up is business. No, not a caroler. I'm not going door to door. What is a Christmas singer? A Christmas singer is a dang good person that sings Christmas and sings about Christmas, boy.

40:13Bells will be ringing, that kind of stuff. That was you. Don't fucking lie to me. That guy was you. That was you. That guy is a pervert, man. You sing just like him. No, that guy is a Pentecostal, and that guy has been through a lot. You're fucking with me right now. I don't know. that's a great but that guy's had a lot of tough times in his life um yeah i would think yeah i would probably be oh uh oh jazz maybe something like that like michael buble yeah yeah and i would have like a cool name too what would it be uh you could have your name i feel like theo von maybe i'd be like um oh i'd have like a name like mystery or something like a stripper's name but for a man so like what so like mystery would be my name that's good mystery Jackson.

40:56But it's for Christmas. Yeah. I like it. And it would be called Mystery Toe, like Mistletoe. That's good. You've already thought this out. You've already thought it out. This is all horrible. We're supposed to be talking about you, Jessie. So what else can we talk about here then? So you have a new album that's coming out. Yes, I do. I do have a new album that's coming out. And it's called? Damn, dude. You have vengeance towards men, huh? Not all of us. Really? Yeah. But there's a couple that really must have just. Yeah. Somebody had to do it. Yeah. Somebody had to. Somebody. Yeah. Somebody always has to break our heart, huh?

41:35Damn. That happened to you? Oh, I think it's happened to everybody. I think it's one reason why so many people can like relate to all types of things. Probably. It's kind of crazy that we break each other's hearts, you know? I know. And it's common. Yeah. And it does happen to everybody. Dude, it's so crazy because like how you feel, your heart, it's pretty important. and then you freaking, you're like, here you go. And then everything is good for a little while and then we let each other down, you know? Yeah. Fuck. I know, you're right. When did you get your heart broken, you think? Even a timeline.

42:10We don't need names. I don't think it was really a, I mean, things happen and you like go through things and you see things. And I think it's more, with this album specifically, Typically, I think it's more of like a buildup of things. Like something set me off and then it just made me think about everything else. And I was just fucking angry. And then that's, yeah. And when you get angry, what do you do? You go to a shooting range or anything like that? That's exactly what I do. No, I'm just kidding. Oh. I've never done it, but I want to try. Shooting range? Yeah, do you go? I took a date one time to a shooting range.

42:42It's an interesting place to do that. It was. And it wasn't. Here's what I realized. As I get there, I was trying to be cool and stuff at front, at the counter or whatever. and we checked out a couple guns. Dude, you can check out guns. And then here's the crazy part. The guy's like, all right, just here's your guns. Go in there, booth four or whatever. And the guns were just sitting there and I was like, are you going to bring the guns in there for us? And he's like, no, you guys bring them in. And he put them just like in this little like, kind of like a bin they would give you at the airport or whatever.

43:10So I'm like carrying these two guns in there. And the girl's like, this is cool. This is fun. And then I didn't know what to do. No one had ever taught me how to use a gun or anything. They didn't teach you? Huh? No. No, they ask you if you know. And you lied? Yeah. Why would you lie about that? That's a fucking crazy thing to lie about. Well, I had to impress this chick, bro. And so I'm in there and I was like, oh, use yours first. Did she know? Apparently she didn't know either. Well, you're so fine. Well, yeah, but she should know, dude. You know, because women need to be able to defend themselves or whatever.

43:41And so I was like, use your gun. And she's like, I don't know how to use a gun. And then I realized I don't have an easy gun And so I picked it up And then I realized you're in there And there's other people You could shoot anybody I've never been in What does it look like? It's like Could you really? Oh 100 % There's no like walls? Oh there's walls But like you're facing your target And there's a wall on the side of you But right around the edge of the wall Is just the next person shooting Really? So you could literally Like if you hated somebody You could just shoot over that way You think that happens a lot?

44:15I I, you think it's a common thing? I don't know, but I just hope it doesn't. I was amazed they gave us these guns. So then I said, look, I'm going to be honest with you. Let's go back to the front to talk to the guy. I said, I think these guns, you need to double back. That's bad. I said, I think these guns are broken. That's what I said. That's what you said. And so we went back and like, he gave us some kind of like easier guns to use or whatever. And it was pretty fun. So you just pick some complicated. I picked like some Sig some Sig Sig what's a gun called? Sig Sig bring it up Sig Sarr yeah yeah it was just it was fine but it was just a lot but after that I learned how to use a firearm they call it and now you know yeah and you can do it at any time yeah and I live in Tennessee it's a state where you can damn you live there?

45:11you can do what you gotta do yeah I live in Nashville you can Damn, really? Yeah. I used to live there. You did? Good place. Do you miss it or not? I do. I just moved like two weeks ago. Where'd you move to? LA? Santa Monica. Yeah. No way. You're by the beach, yo. Damn. I really like it. But I do miss Nashville. Yeah. Well, it's such a different world. It's so different. I mean, Nashville is so quiet. You think so? I think so. I don't think so. Really? I think it's loud. It depends on where you live, though. Yeah. I mean, I just live in kind of like a regular neighborhood, I guess. You're in the suburbs?

45:43Nah I'm in the city I would get out in the suburbs I've been looking at some houses But I've just been touring so much And here sometimes That I'm like If I bought a different house I wouldn't be able to be there to live in it Yeah I feel you I feel you so heavily Yeah So Dirty That's the new single off of the album Yeah And the album's called If These Men Come Around I'm Gonna Kill Them What's it called again? That's exactly what it's called Okay Okay Damn that somehow is almost even worse. You'd almost rather have somebody shoot you than to say you were the devil, you know? Damn, you think that's really bad?

46:19What, to shoot somebody? Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no, no. That's bad, right? Yeah. Yeah. The name of the album? Yeah. I think it's bad. Yeah. I think it's good. That's good. I think it fits you. It actually makes me really happy that you think it's bad. Right. I haven't really told it to any, like, men yet. Really? Yeah, but I love your reaction, though. Thanks. It makes me feel good. Damn. Yeah, you are... you got the dark arts in you, I think, you know, and that's okay. Maybe you were a Halloween baby. Do you have a first single off of it? I do. The song that just came out, the dirty Teddy swims.

46:54Oh yeah. With Teddy swim. He's such a, uh, I saw this great tick tock of him the other day. Somebody was singing on the street and he walked up and sang with him. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. So good. Find that up. If you can, Teddy swims, craziest voice ever.

47:15I don't know myself anymore Damn, I've even seen this one Feels like the walls are all closing in I don't know Devil's knocking at my door How many times, how many times Did I tell you I'm no good at being alone

47:56Damn. That wasn't seen. She just realized I'm out of a job.

48:09Wow. Was that so cool? That's great, Nick. Thanks. Was that pretty wonderful to get to... What was it like when you first met him? So crazy. He has one of the best voices ever. Oh, it sounds like he has a thousand years just trapped inside of him. That's a great way to describe it. I like that a lot, actually. Like somebody just screaming through a fucking wishing well of beauty. A hundred percent. Yeah, it just sounds like he's hurting. Yeah, it's like... It's Chris Stapleton. be. Wow, it is. Yeah, right? I'd say so. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, it's Chris Stapleton-y. Dude, I went and saw John Mayer recently.

48:47I went and saw the Grateful Dead and Company and John Mayer plays with them and sometimes he'll hit a note and it feels like he's trying to find the exact note that will take us all to the end of time or something. I feel like he's specifically good at that. Yeah, he's just like he just rides that thing. Exactly what he does. He's just such a crazy boy. And then here's a couple of Viettes right here. Bring them up.

49:17And this is Jan Mare. Damn, this fucking kid is ripping, bro. Full allowance this week. God damn, yeah, yes.

49:35Look at his face. is how does he even know how to feel all this

49:44i got a game on tour right now this kid could also be 40 years old dude we don't know what's going on bro unreal if that's a real person and not ai um okay so the new album what's like tell me about it then um well are there new collaborations on this album are there people and did you reach out to them? How did it come about? What happened? Take me there, Ms. Murph. I'm going to take you there. Okay. So first and foremost, the Teddy collab, I had this song, Dirty, that I made probably about a year ago today. And I posted it and it went viral. And I was just about to drop it. And then Drake texts me.

50:27He slides into my DMs. Damn. And he was like, you trying to let me get on Dirty. Really? And I was like, yeah. Is that a euphemism? What does that mean? I don't know. I don't know what he's into. What do you mean? Like, what was he saying? Was he flirting, you think, or he was asking about music? No, it's about music. Okay. And I was so excited because I love Drake, big Drake fan. I think he's incredible. Yeah. So that happened, and I was kind of just, like, waiting on that. And it was, like, some back and forth, and then it just ended up, like, not working. It disappeared. Yeah, it just didn't happen.

51:00Wow, that had to be freaking amazing. Were you scared to write back? How long after you saw his message? This is the question. How long after you saw, okay, Drake sent you a freaking message and you're like, how long do you wait to even open it? I don't know. I don't, I was definitely freaking out. He's one of my like favorite, like just like songwriters. Oh yeah. It's like if somebody from the Bible sent you a message or something. He's so good. Yeah. Um, but I don't, yeah, no, I was definitely freaked. I was like, what do I, how do you do that? What do I do? What do I even wear something nice to text him to message him back?

51:30Is that how you felt? I mean, I was like a little like, I don't know what to, I didn't know what I thought. Yeah. I was like, Hey, uh, I definitely asked a couple people. I was kind of. No, a hundred percent. Yeah. You have to. Like, what do you say to, yeah. No, a hundred percent. And so then you wrote him back. No, I did write him back. But anyways, it didn't happen, but it made me realize that I did want, I wanted somebody on the song. I wanted it to be two people. Um, and I was like, fuck, well, who should it be? Who could it be? Even though you just written it for you. Yeah. Right. That's cool though.

52:03I just wanted it, you know? Yeah, no. He really made me realize like this song would be sick as a collab. So I was like, who should do it? So I asked my fans. I just like asked TikTok and they were like, I got an overwhelming response of Teddy Swims. Really? And once I saw it, I was like, oh my God, a fucking chorus. Dude is crazy. So I hit him up and he like did a verse and it's incredible. So that's how that happened. and then I also have a club with no way really bro his energy is his energy is strong he brings energy man that guy is he's his own fucking thing he's like almost like somebody cut a power cable and it's just fucking that one that's just like that on the street you know like the city hasn't come to fucking clamp it down or whatever yet you know 100 % I love his energy as always anytime you're around him you feel like kind of like just lifted up you know hundred percent that's a that's a great way to describe it yeah he's he's a crazy crazy character and he just started even playing music i think like five years ago or something it was really recent right yeah i'm which is wild it's crazy what did he do before he did like i don't know somebody said i think he was in lawn care or something yeah something like that so it's like wow what a 360 yeah let's see this is So helpful.

53:28Lawn care is dangerous. Swims. Teddy Swims grew up in Conyers, Georgia over there. His father introduced him to soul music at an early age. Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, and Al Green. Swims' family were American football enthusiasts. He had been playing American football for 10 years during his second year at Salem High School. He must have been held back then. He played for 10 years in high school. Jesus Christ. No judgment, dude. I did two years in sixth grade. Did you actually? Yeah. It never leaves your system. What happened? Mom said they needed me back. Really? She said they wanted me back.

54:02Did you fail? I wouldn't say failed. I would say, yeah, we had some disagreements maybe on the invoice at the end of the year. But yeah, you know, that's what we did. Yeah, Teddy's so magical, huh? You know, that's one thing that's amazing about TikTok is just how many artists you can find, you know? So many talented people on there. And there's like things that will come across like – I know you had Maddox Batson on your show. He came on the podcast. And I just saw like his videos and people would tag me in him and be like, oh, Theo, this looks like you when you were a kid or this reminds me of you.

54:36And so then next thing you know, like he showed up and we went for a ride. I got a Cybertruck. We went for a ride in it. And just ridiculous, you know. And we got to listen to like his first new song. Yeah, he's so – He's such a sweet kid. He is. He's always like so just, oh, that's his mom right there too. She's pretty vibey, but she's married. But yeah, that was him, man. We had a nice time. But yeah, that's one thing. It's like, oh, you can hear a lot of, yeah, you can just hear like a lot of new artists. People can break through really quick. A hundred percent. Like that situation is crazy.

55:12He's so young. I know. What is he like? He's like 13? Yeah. I mean, that would be so scary. That's a crazy age. Because then it's like, I don't think you develop any of your own like thoughts or real, like or not thoughts but yeah no fucking adolescent or whatever it's called 100 and he's also gonna he's gonna be so massive yeah it's like people compare him to justin bieber all the time 100 so that's also tough because you're like how does he just be himself he seems to be good at it though i really do feel like he's like made for it you know what that's kind of funny yeah he kind of just acts already like he's a star he does he just has that about him he just fits in like it's okay with him he doesn't even second guess it no that's also a thing of being so young though i don't think it's like it registers really yeah the kid doesn't really he probably doesn't really like it doesn't feel like it's crazy just because you're young i feel right because also i think at that age you feel like almost all kids probably feel like a star anyway because you're like just that vibrant crazy energy it's just that age yeah right so he's just like no but he's he's great dude yeah that was pretty cool i'm trying to think of who else that i'll follow or listen to yeah who's your like favorite artist who do you listen right now i listen to red clay strays so much have you heard of them yo so fucking good she comes from super school i know that was you i fucking know it was you yeah they god they're good dude and they have um after when i'm leaving stage that's a song that we play all the time uh they got that song that's your walkout track um they remind me of like the beatles they remind me of aerosmith a little bit I walk out when I'm leaving I can't remember what it's called I love that you love them they're so good God they're so good they're from down near you they're from Mobile no I didn't even know that that checks out they're from Mobile that really checks out I met you like two years ago yeah we met at your agent's house A &R A &R yep and your brother was there your brother writes with you is that right yeah he tours with me he tours with you guitar He's a guitarist Yeah Nice So was he like part of some of your Like how did that Did you have to incorporate him Did he have to audition Or was it just like It's a two person deal It's a two piece We always just kind of like Played together Like he's always just been Obsessed with guitar And he writes too He's incredible But just growing up That's just what we did So it just felt natural I feel like And it's so nice To have him on the road Is it?

57:37Yeah You know Why? Because you get to do things together? Yeah Yeah, it's just like also a sense of like home and family. Yeah. Yeah, he's a real country, dude. Are you guys pretty close? Yeah, I'd say so. You have siblings? Yeah, I've got three siblings. They're pretty good. My sister's a nurse now. Damn, wow. And I'm like, Jesus, dude, I would not let her go near me. Why? I just, I couldn't imagine. She's like, if I pulled up, I was like hurt or something. I'm just like, I'm going to help you. I'll be like, get the fuck away. You really? I mean, I think she's probably educated, you know, she knows what she's doing, but I wouldn't let her.

58:19And she can prescribe pills and stuff now. Damn. So. I mean. We'll see what happens. Okay. So what else on the album? And then how far after do you tour? Like, do you have a release strategy? Like, do you start to strategize more these days with social media? Or do you feel like you do things kind of whimsical? or is it like do you have like almost a calendar where you know when you're going to put out what? I feel like, yeah, no, strategizing is a big part of it. That's another part that really overwhelms me. I don't want to do that. I just want to like put out the music and then step away. You always seem very like on your socials, it always seems like super just you kind of having a good time, like just singing some of the bars of the songs and that's it.

59:07It just feels like you're just at home just doing whatever you want. Yeah. That's how I'd like to keep it. But you do have to think about when you're going to do this and when you're going to do that and why you're doing it. But I hate that stuff. It really freaks me out. Yeah? Yeah. Anything that's too planned freaks me out, I think. Oh, yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. Well, once you start – and I start noticing too. It's like, well, let's do this and do the edit. And it's the second you start to feel that it's becoming too edited, I can already tell it's not going to be good. 100%. Or it's not going to be real, you know?

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1:01:08Yeah. But now I'm here. And how do you, and first you moved to Athens to Nashville? Athens, Huntsville to Athens, to Athens to Huntsville to Nashville to LA. Okay. And why'd you move out of Athens? It was just really, like I said, I went to middle school and high school there. And it was really, really small. and super conservative, like so conservative. Really? It's in the Bible Belt? Like heavy Bible Belt. And I like - Were you with the church? Yeah, I like sang at church for a little bit, but I cuss a lot in my songs and shit, and that was like a really big deal there. Especially when me doing cheer was like really serious.

1:01:54They would like make me like run laps if I like posted something and there was a cuss word in it. I would have to like run miles for every cuss word. Really? At school? Yeah. Public school too, which is just fucked. But then like, like the guys could do it, which is fucked. Oh yeah. Most of the guys are allowed to curse in the South, but women are mostly for more first pregnancy. No, a hundred percent. Yeah. That's exactly what they were trying to say. Pregnancy and recipes. That's like the, those were like used to be the big women thing. A hundred percent. Yeah. Did you have the baby class at high school?

1:02:31Um, the men didn't have to do it. We had to do woodshop or whatever. Yeah. But the girls had a baby class? The girls had a baby class. Is that everywhere? Babies. And then I think the second semester was, I want to say omelets. No. Or breakfast, babies and breakfast. Are you serious? Yeah. That's the class? I mean, look, dude. That feels fucked. That's how you keep a family together. You don't have babies or breakfast. Some guys took it. You were allowed to take it? Uh, yeah. Some guys did. Home economics course is often consists of learning how to cook, how to do taxes, and how to perform child care tasks.

1:03:05That's fair. That's fair, but yeah, I feel like guys should do that too, though, no? Yeah, some guys, yeah, some guys, we had wood shop, you had to learn how to build a birdhouse, how to build a, um, how to, like, de-hoof a horse or whatever, a couple different stuff we had to learn. You really had to learn how to do that? Yeah. That's some Kentucky stuff, right? They had a farrier come, and he would show us how to do the thing. Have you ever had to do it? I'm like, dude, I don't even, I'm fucking, I can barely like a like we we get one pair of Reeboks a year dude if I do this to my shoes mom's gonna fucking mom's gonna drive over my legs with her car dude um how often do you think people use that stuff do you ever think about that how like you're never really using anything you learned in school oh yeah I think the stuff we should teach kids is like hey how do you be nice to somebody else how do you recognize maybe if somebody else is having a tough day like emotional intelligence Yeah.

1:03:55And it's so, it's scarce. You don't even realize how scarce it is. Emotional intelligence? Fuck yeah. 100%, especially I think with my generation. Really? Yeah, 100%. There's just like a lack of like depth. Is there really, do you feel like less of an interaction in your generation? Fuck yeah. I mean, for everybody right now though. And I think just because of like, I mean, it's because of social media. But like, it's weird because we're so connected, but we're so disconnected. Yeah. Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times. People are sad. People are really sad. Why, though, I wonder?

1:04:30Yeah, why do you notice? Because you have a lot of fans that are kind of like, you know, you do touch on that space of like, I want to feel something. Right. Yeah. I don't know why. I do think it's because of like you're spending hours a day like on a phone and you're seeing all these things and it's you're not meant to see that much, I don't think, as a human. Yeah. And you see it and you're like, then your brain's just going crazy and then you compare yourself to everything. Oh, that's the truth. You know, everybody does it. I think even adults do that now. But I think it's really damaging for people like in high school and middle school.

1:05:03Well, you compare yourself so much. And here's one thing I realize. It's like you may love somebody, right? But then if you see a thousand pictures of other that are not even real, like they've been adjusted or filtered, then you see those. Then you're going to think, oh, this – you can't help but feel some attraction to some of it. Really, you think so? I think sometimes it's hard because the phone isn't playing fair. It's like if there's filters and stuff, that's not even the real person or the lighting isn't real. Right, you're getting tricked. But we're all getting tricked into thinking that there's something better out there.

1:05:39That's fucked up. In relationships, it's fucked up too. Yeah. You know how many relationships end probably because of that? So many. Snapchat. You know how many relationships end because of Snapchat? You got Snapchat? I have Snapchat. I don't use it. Don't use it. I do not use it. It's not good for you. I ain't using it Don't even do it I'll never use it Don't even do it I wouldn't Don't do it Well I will not Yeah but I don't even know Yeah people are And sometimes Now a couple years ago I would look at Snapchat But sometimes you would open it up And you would There would just be like a ding What?

1:06:13Cooter or something in there That happens to you Yeah That's such a thing You're like what is going on Unsolicited Yes and you're like Where is What is happening or something And it would be like Come to Memphis or something Somebody you don't know? You're like, dear God. These are your friends on Snapchat? I don't know who these people are. Well, that's a crazy thing on Snapchat is it's just you have no idea who the fucking person is. What are you talking about? You should. It should be your friends. You probably added them. Oh, yeah. Then I don't know how I got. I don't know. Because there's like 70 people that can send me stuff, and I don't know any of them, and I don't know how they're able to.

1:06:45How did you get them on there? Maybe when I first started, I might have hit the wrong button. To where you can allow anything? That's how you get unsolicited dick pics. Really? Yes. Well, I don't get any dick pics. Actually, dude, I have gotten a couple. I know you've gotten one. There's some guys from Scotland who are always doing blow and sending dick pics to me. It's just Scotland guys? Oh, yeah. That's really niche. They either sound Scottish or they've done so much blow that they just can't speak English. There's audio. Yeah, there's audio, too. On the dick pics. What are you talking about?

1:07:12Yeah, dude. You think I want a dick pic with no audio, dude? What are you talking about? Just a silent wiener? What are they saying? What are they saying? Sometimes it's like you'll hear them doing little football chants or just talking in Scottish. You're getting videos. Yeah, Wiener vids or whatever. That feels much worse. Well, it's more cinematography, I feel like. Cinematic. Yeah, just a picture is like, oh, anybody could do that. At least these guys are like. They're putting some work in. It feels like. And they thought about you. They really thought about you. All right, I don't want to think about it anymore.

1:07:38You know, I'm 40 days off pornography right now. Wow. That's good. I feel pretty hype about that, actually. I feel pretty good about it. Do you think you will go to college? You didn't go to college? I didn't. You didn't? No, but I've been thinking about it. Have you? No. Fuck no. Like Mabu, would you go like him? I'm never going to college. But sometimes I do want to go because lately I've, like when I was in high school, I never, I hated that shit and I didn't want to learn anything. But now I feel like, I don't know if it's my age or what, but I just want to learn so much. Yeah. I'm trying to, I want to like force myself to read boring books because I just want to know more.

1:08:12Yeah. You know? But I don't know. You can. I used to want to go to Harvard. Really? Yeah. so you had dreams like that I wanted to go I just wanted to go because I knew it was like the craziest one like what do you mean go like just go there eat in the student union or something you wanted to go to school there I wanted to go and be a lawyer which I would have been a fucking terrible lawyer I don't know I hate confrontation do you? I do some of your I don't know some of your energy I feel like you want you want you no I do you're there for it that's the weird thing it's like the songs are like the part of me that I'm not a fighter, but in my songs, I'm a fighter.

1:08:52Yeah. You feel me? Yeah. But yeah, no. It's like my alter. It's like what I, you know? Yeah, that's a good point. Sometimes we create, yeah. Yeah, I think when I'm, I don't feel as confident off a stage as I do when I'm on stage. Right. I never even thought about that until just now. It's just like what you gotta get out, you know? Yeah. Without it, I might be a fighter, you know? I could see you doing UFC or something. You think so? Yeah. Really? Yeah, dude. Have you ever done that? Have you gone? I've gone. Have you never gone? No, I want to go really bad. Really? So bad. I'll see if I can help you out.

1:09:27Please do. I really want to see it. You would fucking love it then, dude. You think so? Are you kidding me? Find a fighter to walk out to one of your songs to, one of those bad bitches that are in the league. Is it? Wow. You've watched women too? I watched a woman punch a tit off another woman. No. Yeah? Where'd it go? No. That didn't happen. And if you catch it, you win like a hat or something. That didn't happen. like a extra large shirt. No, I didn't see that. I have seen, oh, a woman punched a woman's freaking eyelash off the other night in Denver. She had fake eyelashes on? Yeah. That's crazy to wear that into the ring.

1:10:00That's a crazy place to do that. She looked good though. She had makeup on. Right here. Watch this. No. Yeah. No. No, don't do that. You gotta use a stronger glue. What's the, what glue are women using on that? God damn. No, you know what? You know what I think? Do you know what eyelash extensions are? You know exactly what they are? Yeah, it's like a fake eyelash. You glue it on, huh? No, but the ones that they do, they'll go in there with tongs and they'll do them individually with serious glue. And I hope that wasn't that because if it was, her real eyelashes came out with it. Look at how red it is.

1:10:42Yeah. Because I don't think she's gluing strip lashes. Oh, look. You can see it leaving right there. No. Oh, my God. Yeah, I think that was an extension. That girl lost her eyelashes. Yeah, it's just that time of year. Oh, my God. I got to go see that. Yeah. You think there's one tomorrow? No, no, no, no. They have them on Saturdays. Every Saturday? Yeah. You know what, though? I will make sure you get to one. Please do. I'd be forever grateful. It's so much fun. Really? You're right there by the cage. Yeah, dude. dude you're right there by the cage is that fucked up that we like to watch that as humans no because i think it goes back i think at first it is fucked up but then you have to recognize that these guys are fighters and they love doing it it's like yes they want to beat each other up but they also want to show their skill and craft right they want to be seen right just like a singer just like anything a strip or anything anything it's like i want to put myself out there so i think i used to sit there and kind of feel bad but now i realize i just have maximum respect for both of the men or women that are in there because they're doing exactly what they want to do.

1:11:45Here they put it back on, I guess. Or they took the other one off. No, her right eye is still on and you can see it's gone on the... It looks like they're gone though. That's bad.

1:12:02Do you party, you drink? I do. I dabble. I used to a lot more than I do now. Really? Why? I I, well, high school, like 17 was just rough for me. And I think I like did that to like cope with shit, which is not great. But the older I got, the more I just realized how bad it makes you feel. Yeah. Like I can't tour and drink a lot anymore because it just wrecks me. I'll get sick so fast. Oh, you have to take care of yourself so much when you tour. It's crazy. It's actually crazy. That's why like the other day people were ripped or, you know, Morgan Walling canceled a show. It was in Tampa. Do you see this?

1:12:36and Jelly Roll like went and did a show, which I thought was really sweet to try to be helpful. But also it's like, and people are like, fuck him or what, you know, but it's like, it's so hard. And he's been touring for three years straight. Just straight, right? I mean, I think he's had maybe a couple months off here and there, but not a long time. I mean, I was shocked. Remember he was touring after the first album and then he put out the double out. Remember that? Yeah, no, he just hasn't stopped touring. So I can only fathom that he's pretty burnt at certain moments, you know? And then they showed him the night before.

1:13:12It's raining. Really? He's singing. And steam is coming up. It was like 100 degrees. It was like. Also probably a long show. Like he probably has a lot of fucking songs to sing. Oh, he puts in a two. Yeah, it's like. I think it's a two hour show. Yeah, no. That shit is so. I don't know how people do that long of tours and not have to cancel shows. Yeah. You never want to have to do it. but like you can't sing if you can't fucking sing. Yeah. You know? How much wear and tear is it really in your voice? As a comedian, it's like, you know, it's some, but it's not. Yeah, it's probably really different, huh?

1:13:41Yeah, it's more like just making sure your mental state is okay to go out there and build this energy of like, we're having a good time, you know? What do you do if you're not? I don't know. Like what would be warrants for you to not do a show? Or you're just broad-talking it regardless? you don't have a fucking choice yeah no so for me nothing really unless i was hurt or unless something like physically really tragic happened in life but for a singer is it realistic that it could come up to a like three or four in the afternoon you athlete and you're like i can't do it i mean it depends like fuck i i had to cancel one one time i had the stomach flu but like from hell like I couldn't it was so bad I was just throwing up like like I just couldn't like walk very far without like throwing up and shit so I had to cancel it you know when you're just like weak and shit oh yeah I hate that dude and you try to open a Gatorade and you can't open you have to not ask your neighbor you're laying on the bathroom floor just curled up that's the only time I'll do it but I do lose my voice a lot and I just do the show anyways I just hope that they're gonna sing oh that's why a lot of people go like that to the crowd Yeah, sometimes you got to do it.

1:14:55But some people fucking, some people fake it, which is crazy. It's not them singing the whole time? Some people fake it. You're lying. No, you didn't know that? No, I knew that people have been accused of it. Mariah Carey does it. No, no, she doesn't, really? Mariah Carey? Fuck, that's sad. I'm just, allegedly, I've heard that she does it. Somebody went to one of their shows recently that said, they bring a sofa out there and she just lays on the sofa the whole time. In her pajamas, no less. I swear to God. See if you can find any of it. Because can you even imagine like you're like, I'll go on tour.

1:15:28But it's exactly how I'm going to be at home. And you're just fucking. She's sitting on the couch and she's not singing. She's got to be singing. You're fucking with me. At that point you have to sing. No, some of my friends just went in Vegas. They saw her not long ago. They're like, she just laid on the couch the whole time in her pajamas and sang. They're like, it was cool. But it was also like, this seems pretty crazy. I don't buy it. It could be mythological. You know, I don't know. It's got to be mythological. Have you seen that crab that's eating a gusher on the internet? No. Show it to me.

1:15:56Oh, it's cool. What is it? It's a crab just eating a gusher. See if you can find it. What's your for you page like? Me? Yeah. A lot of just positivity. A little bit of tits, probably, honestly, to be honest with you. But I'm just joking. I mean, I don't know. I haven't been on there in a while. Watch Howie's reaction today. She remembers. Is this the one that I like? Yeah. Yep. Okay. You can have whatever you want. Here's a gusher. There.

1:16:27Do you remember Gushers? You don't want it? You don't want Gushers? I'll just crab eat a damn Gusher. No. Yeah! What's the Gusher? You remember? Yeah! You do happy mouth for Gushers? Yeah! Yeah. You want more? More? You can give him one. Oh, it's good. It's good. Yum, yum, yum. Such a messy girl. All the spooky stuff.

1:17:08I thought we got to see her eat the gusher. She's got to put it in her mouth. Let me give her another one.

1:17:15That's crazy. The buildup is wild. Yeah.

1:17:22I feel like we're being fucked with right now. That's the world we live in now. Crabs are eating gushers. It's just a different time. You ever had one? A gusher? A crab. Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, in Louisiana, we had a lot of crabs. Y 'all didn't have them in Huntsville? No. Hush puppies. I did have one. That's the Huntsville thing, isn't it? Hush puppies? No. What is that? A hush puppy. Oh, like the food? Yeah, it's like a little... That's not a Huntsville thing. That's an everywhere thing, though. Is it? Is it? I just, they were really normal. I thought a hush puppy was from Huntsville, Alabama.

1:17:54Is it actually? Look at it, where's the home of hush? Where did hush puppies get started? There's no way. Do you like them? Hush puppy? Yeah, I like the ones that are a little sweeter. Ah. But I don't like the ones that have like jalapenos in them. You don't like jalapenos? I like them, but I don't like them in a hush puppy. Do you like spicy food a lot? Yeah, I don't mind it. But I'll fucking get weird if it gets weird. it appears that it originated with Native Americans in Southern cuisine can we find out where I thought it was in damn you ever had like a ghost pepper my mom lied I don't know if I have is it cool I've never had one alright hey we ain't gonna force that on you girl oh did you see that white horse that they have this is an animal I could see you having where it's the fanciest horse they have the most expensive horse in the world are you serious yeah whoa this horse two reasons because it was elected the most beautiful horse in the world because of its coat it's a coat that is somewhat silvery wow as you can see here wow it's just magnificent and it comes from a lineage of racehorses with a great track record so it's for these two reasons that at auction it went for over 50 million dollars holy there's no way million for a horse.

1:19:18Well, of course, it's just magnificent. 50 million? I'd pet that thing all night. Do you like horses? I like them, but I think they gotta like you, you know? They have to like you. But that's expensive. Dude, I remember the first time I ever stayed in an expensive hotel room. I was afraid to even go to sleep. I was like, dude, this is like 600 bucks a night, dude. I ain't sleeping. You didn't sleep? Not wasting the money. So you just stayed up? Oh, you closed your eyes. That's $11, dude. It's like, I'm definitely gonna get my money worth. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's so crazy sometimes.

1:19:51Do you guys ever get stopped by the police in your tour bus? I don't think so. No, only like border crossings and shit. Yeah, to Canada? Yeah, you ever got in trouble? Are you on a tour bus? We do tour bus and sometimes, yeah, sometimes we fly but we'll do tour bus a lot. Have you ever had any good run-ins with the police? No, I mean, shit like getting like chased like in high school. Yeah. like for trespassing and stuff oh dude we had this guy he got so high right he fucking called he couldn't feel his arms he said he's like he said he didn't have any arms he called the police he said he didn't have any arms starts yelling bro for people to call the police so the fucking police come he started he said these people I think he was on I don't know some type of drugs he's like these guys stole my arms dude right fucking goes like that towards us towards you the dumbest part Oh, no.

1:20:44The dumbest part. The cop comes over and goes like this, like we have his arms. The motherfucker has his arms on him. This didn't happen. Yeah. Oh, I swear to God. The guy was super high. Dude, one night, my buddy Billy invites me over. He was working at a gas station all night. He invites me over there. We smoke a little bit of weed. I went outside. I don't know if I went outside to get someone in my car or something. He felt so high. He thought that I poisoned him, right? He locks himself in the gas station, calls the police. No. Yeah. Because he thought you poisoned him. Yeah, so I was like, I'm fucking out of here.

1:21:16Did you go? You ran? I left, dude, yeah. I didn't do anything. And then the cops show up and like - And he's just high? Yeah, he's just high inside the gas station, so. Where was this at? This was in Madisonville, Louisiana, a beautiful area. Is weed illegal there? I don't know if it's illegal or not, but it's not that good of weed. Do you have a opener on your new tour? Is that even put together yet, or you don't know? No, I'm thinking about people. You got any ideas? I know you got ideas. I'm going to think of some and let you know. What kind of stuff do you like? I know you had Charlie on Friday on one of your tours.

1:21:49Yeah. And who was on your last tour? Shaboozy. Oh, I just met him the other day. Character, right? Yeah. Yeah. Him and Matt Schmooster. Ooh. I don't know. I'm not familiar with him. Yo, you would like his shit. He has a crazy voice. Matt Schmooster? Yeah. Fuck, I might be saying that wrong, but yeah. Crazy. Matt Schuster? Yeah. Oh, fuck. Schuster. It's a crazy last name, to be fair. But no, Crazy Boys. Wow. So you were closing the show? Yeah. Yeah. And Shabuzi was, and that's when he was really blowing up, right? This was like two months ago, maybe? Wow. This was right before he went crazy. That must have been kind of crazy.

1:22:39It was crazy. It's been so sick seeing him go crazy. yeah yeah it's unbelievable he has another song out there now that people are vibing to i don't know what it is though he's got a couple the album was so fucking good is it i gotta listen to more of it you gotta listen i know you like sad stuff huh don't tell anyone yeah yeah his song was noah cyrus i feel like you'd like um oh did i meet her oh i met brandy cyrus the other day that's the mom no brandy's one of the children i think oh really is noah a child of it noah cyrus she's so good gonna meet her no she's pretty um brandy i met yeah that's a oh there's a huge ron brandy who's damn ron cyrus i don't even know that's a big family right there yeah that's a lot of family um so you're thinking of people now how does that work you just pick somebody no yeah dude but i'm sure a lot of agents submit people through like what about this guy 100 % yeah Do you feel like you have pressure to listen to any of that?

1:23:41It depends on ticket sales If you sell out then you can pick whoever you want Is your tour on sale yet? No I haven't announced it yet It'll sell out I hope so I'm really excited I'll be doing my first arena show Which is really sick Oh that's crazy I'm really excited about it Yeah dude Some of your songs They were like Yeah Some of them are so great I don't want to sing them Because I don't want people to think I'm that weird anymore Which ones do you know? Let me think There was a song Oh What Happened to Ryan, that song I remember that It was kind of strange I was like oh this one's fucking kind of crazy Sad Any of the sad shit I was there for it Damn I gotta send you a playlist Of sad shit?

1:24:32Yeah Do not do it dude I'm already on pills and shit man I don't want to fucking I don't want this to be how it ends you know Fuck I'm not sending you nothing Coughing music that'll be your next album you know That's a crazy thought Dude there's a video there was like a church or something And they were doing a And whoever was doing the audio visual accidentally played a Played a Where are you going with this Played a song or played a clip of mine See if you find that Nick I don't want to keep you too long So yeah, tell me something else before you leave. Anything? Oh, did you ever have any pets growing up?

1:25:10What was that like? I did. I have a crab. Oh, you did? And it died. No. And I killed it on accident. Nah. Yeah, and let me tell you how it happened. So I had a crab. Just one? Yes. Okay. Its name was Bubbles, and then it had a shell. And you know when you go to the beach? You ever been to Orange Beach? Oh, yeah. Right? Good time, huh? Great time, dude. So I got it there, and it had a shell. But you know how they have like the painted shells? You can buy different shells. Oh, really? And what do you get them done at like a salon or whatever? No, they just have them. Somebody else has done them already.

1:25:43Oh, and you put it on your crab. You're not supposed to, apparently. So I get the shell and I didn't, it had like a bad one on. So I took it out. And so, and I tried to put it into the new shell and it just wouldn't. And then it died. That was it. Yeah, I haven't had a pet since then. No. Should I get another one? I'm trying to think if you're trying to get something, you know, what you're thinking about getting? I probably shouldn't do a crab again It's probably wraps Feed it a gusher dude if you do You think so? You know they like them girl That was a big crab That's fucking crazy You can walk that thing I'll fucking watch one of them bitches eat a nerd rope homie I don't give a fuck dog Next time I see you I'm gonna bring you a crab I'll give a damn twizzler to a dolphin No dude not bring me a damn crab dude Play this video right here Would you keep it?

1:26:32market. I played that on accident in a church. That's at a funeral? That's at a funeral. Oh, they were leading. They want to kick a fat kid at a market. Can you imagine you're in a fucking church? They can't be real. They all said amen. Somebody played that on accident. That's fucked up. That might be my favorite clip I've seen all day. Oh, amen. I like that. Look at this. You see this whale return somebody's phone. when they dropped it in the water? That's a whale. It's a beluga whale. Wow. I mean, it's like a trans dolphin or whatever. Do you know about SeaWorld? Yeah, I've heard about it. You know about the dolphins?

1:27:15Mm-mm. Have you ever heard about dolphin births? Mm-mm. Like people can, I don't know if this is safe, but people can give birth and the dolphins deliver your baby for you. It's like a real thing. What do you mean? You've never heard of that? How could I ever heard of it? Because it's not even something. No, it is something. I promise you. What are you saying? Like a midwife that's a dolphin? Yes. I swear it's a thing. Unless I'm confused, but I really think this is - And where do you do it? In the deep end or whatever? Was this at a Hampton Inn? This isn't that thing that happened outside of Waco, was it?

1:27:46It could have been. No, I think it's a thing. It's an option. It's an option at SeaWorld? No. Look, it's a real thing. I've never seen this. Oh my God. That thing's a pervert, dude. They help you get it. That woman's married. Somebody tell that dolphin. Dolphin assisted birth, a newer take on water births, is apparently a trend growing in popularity. The Sirius Institute in Hawaii, a new age center dedicated to encouraging the bonds between dolphins and humans, often assisted childbirth. However, it's unclear if any women have actually gone through with it. One couple from North Carolina traveled to the center for prenatal bonding, but the actual birth with dolphins didn't happen.

1:28:26Wow. Somebody's had to do it, though, if it's a trending thing. According to a website, pioneering Russian midwife Igor Shakarovsky began assisting births in the Black Sea with dolphins that live there. Some of the reported occurrences included a mother and a baby playing with the dolphin within 45 minutes of the birth. Another instance of a free dolphin escorting a newborn human baby to the surface for its first breath. So it comes out underwater. Bro, let me tell you this. if my baby is born, I'm not giving it to a fucking dolphin, dude, for even 30 seconds. What if it swims off with it? That's a crazy thought.

1:29:11No, I think you have to do it. But then you're like, oh, it didn't work. How are you going to tell your wife? It takes your baby or it just eats your baby? That's a fucked up thought. But this is a thing though. They said it's therapeutic. You know what's also therapeutic? taking the child home safely and feeding him and probably homeschooling him and making sure that your home is protected with a ring camera. I mean this just seems fucking insane. Like how weird. People get too weird dude. Somebody in LA has definitely done it. Oh some pervert in LA has done it all. Somebody you know has probably done that.

1:29:47Yeah. One of your friends. I don't have friends. One of your friends has probably done that. Jesse Murph I don't have friends. You should talk to them. Do you have any new mentors that have come into your life through like, you know, sometimes you meet some of your favorites and you meet any of them that I kind of like has Madonna spoken to you? No. That would be wild, though. I don't know. There are people I look up to a lot that I know, like communication, like like Adele. I fucking love Adele. Really? I look up to her so much. Yeah, I think she's incredible. Yeah, she's magical, huh? She's magical.

1:30:23You seen her live? No. I've seen her in person somewhere, but I've never seen her live. Really? I want to see it really bad. Yeah. Did you ever perform right after at a venue as her or anything like that? No, I performed in some of the same venues, maybe. Because, I mean, she went on, like, smaller tours earlier in her career. Yeah. But, no, I don't know. She plays in Vegas a lot, I think. Yeah. I don't know. Did she ever reach out? No, but I don't know how this happened. But she, like, signed a set list. somebody got it for me for my birthday I think it was just somebody was like can you please do this she probably did it but I don't know it's on my wall and it's my favorite thing I own really what about you let me think if somebody gave me something that was real nice one time

1:31:15the guy that's in Better Call Saul one time I think I was performing somewhere after him and he left me a nice note what did he say He said, have fun. I was just here. Wow. You have it on your wall? Nope. Bob Odenkirk, but he wrote it, signed it. Thought it was pretty nice of him. That's special. What do I have that's something that's real special? Yeah, what's the best gift you've ever received? Or what's something that, if you could only hang one thing on your wall, what are you hanging? Oh, that's such a good question.

1:31:49One thing. I don't know. I can't even answer I don't think there's a nice piece of art my friend painted like it was like the first piece of art I ever got and maybe I would hang that there I guess what does it look like it's just a picture of Chris Farley who's that he's a comedian he was in a movie called Tommy Boy Black Sheep he's like a famous actor that's him he died though I've seen him somewhere yeah he used to do like he did films like Adam Sandler David Spade he was on Saturday Night Live he did like fat guy in a little coat he used to do like all kinds of like sketches and shit I know I've seen him somewhere yeah yeah you've seen him he was like unbelievably famous he was like the most famous guy that they ever had I mean look at him he's wow

1:32:42what movie is this no this is him just going on like a talk show oh fuck obviously fuck wow Wow. Wow. Yeah, dude. My friend said he would just puke. Like, my buddy would go over to his place sometimes, and he's like, he would just puke on the side of his bed, and then just, like, between, like, the wall and the bed all the time. Yeah, for why? Just to party. Just to be like that. Dude, my friend Jeff, so, you ever heard that song? It's an old song. It's like, you got to keep them separated. No. Wait, maybe. Keep going. Oh, yeah. Are you talking back to me? you gotta keep them separated come out and play yes yes I've heard that well you're getting a tattoo now you're getting ink done anyway my friend Jeff he had like anger issues or whatever and he would just he would get angry he would go in his room he would play that song and he would just beat the fuck punch holes all in the walls of the room just to that song you think we could tell when he was mad And then you could hear the walls like not doing well.

1:33:50And then here's what would happen though. Every year at Christmas, his parents would get his walls redone for him in the room. Really? If I could do it again. This was at his family home? Yeah, at his family home. And then I saw this band one time in Vegas and I told the lead singer. This is the lead singer of Offspring. And I was like, bro, you are never going to fucking believe this. And they died laughing. It was pretty awesome. Before you go, love life. Is it harder to date as you get more popular? Yeah. No, I think I'm just, it's hard when you're busy, you know, and when you're touring a lot, I think.

1:34:25Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's hard to build something because you're kind of on the go and your career, like, it almost has to come first sometimes. It has to come first. Right. Yeah. I mean, what do you do? My career is just like, I've worked so hard that my career takes first place. It's got to. Most of the time, even if I don't want it to. It's like I have to do this tomorrow. I have to do this. It's like I'd love to. A lot of times it would be like, yeah, look, I would like to do that, but I just can't right now, you know? But then you start to think, oh, well, then like, yeah, at some point there will be times where I don't have to tour as much, and then maybe I could try to devote more attention to it because it takes attention too.

1:35:07It takes attention, and it takes, like, care, I think. Yeah. Yeah, but fuck. I mean, do you ever see yourself, I mean, at some point I'm sure, but is there ever going to be a point where you're not touring though? That's a good question. And then you bring your family on tour and then they got to help out. Yeah. And your wife's selling merch or whatever and calling you an asshole at night, you know, outside of a fucking wallpouse or something somewhere. And you're like, yeah, I am an asshole. That's what you think? I mean, I think you got to, you know, hope for the best, you know, I think so. Dirty, that's the new single that's available now with Teddy Swims.

1:35:43With Teddy Swims. So freaking cool. And then These Men Are Gonna Die. What's it called, the album?

1:35:55Sorry. These men are gonna die. I'm always gonna be a fan, Jesse Murph. Likewise. Yep, I'm locked in. You're the man. Thank you so much. You remind me of like Wim and Em a little bit. Like you're like, kind of like, because you have this, like he always seems like he has this a little bit of a chip on his shoulder. But he manages it well a little Women M is real good Is that? It's real good, I like that a lot Women M, thank you for saying that even if you don't Ladies and gentlemen, Jesse Murph Thank you so much and best of luck With the new album, I can't wait to get a hold of it Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take...