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28:00And in those days, it wasn't drugs. It wasn't like don't drink, don't take drugs. I don't think drugs, I don't even know whether they're even a factor. They happened a pretty long time ago, but I think in those days, I don't think, were drugs a factor? You go back 25 years ago. Not like it is now. Well, certainly not like now. Yeah, and that actually takes me into something else I wanted to talk about. Like alcoholism and addiction is something that's really ramped up, even like you're saying, like in the past 20, 30 years in our country, right? And during the opioid epidemic, they estimate that like almost 600 ,000 people died.

28:36Yeah. And that doesn't even include the broken hearts and the deaths of families and circles of trust. You know, just people that lost a brother. It doesn't even include the actual siblings. You know, and so the ripple effect of that is huge. And there's that Sackler family that pretty much got away with it. You know, they had a financial slap on the wrist. but we're one of the only countries that allows drug advertisements and pharmaceutical companies to advertise on television. Like what do you think are things that you can do to help curtail that when you get in office? Well, we did a great job.

29:15Does that make sense or not? Yes, it does make sense. And we had committees, blue ribbon committees in certain cases, but committees that would meet. the big problem we have is you know fentanyl is probably the biggest opioid is bad opioid is bad too yeah i think that's bad because everyone thinks you know in many cases they think they're going to do away with pain and literally the time is so short if you take it for like two weeks you're almost addicted to it it's incredible when you oh well the whole yeah all of that is horrible but why do we allow that to get addicted how did no i would just do cocaine That was really, yeah.

29:56So not just, yeah. That's down and dirty, right? Yeah. And this is, yeah, this, I mean, it was, yeah. But you don't anymore? No, I don't do it anymore, man. And I'm not doing it. Is it too much? Too much to handle? Some of the stuff started to get a real rattle in it too. I don't know where we were even getting it from in this country, but yeah, it started to make me feel like I was a mechanic or something. So the thing you go back to then is alcohol for the most part. Right. Yeah. But what I want probably is cocaine, but I know that if I have a drink, then it'll give me, it'll like be like, okay, well, I had a drink.

30:26Then I can do this. Is cocaine a stronger, uh, up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're way up with cocaine more than anything else you can think of. Cocaine will turn you into a damn owl, homie. You know what I'm saying? It'll, you'll be, you'll be out on your own porch, you know, you'll, you'll be your own street lamp. You're fricking. And is that a good feeling? Well, it's a miserable feeling, But you do it anyway, just like the guy you're saying with the scotch. Like you didn't, you knew it was bad, but you still. So it's not even good during what would be normally the good time, in other words. Oh, wow.

31:00So why would you do it? I wouldn't. That's why I don't. Yeah, that's terrible. But it's crazy because that's what alcoholism is, I think. It's that it trumps the why. Yeah. Like it doesn't, and it just, you don't, and you just go to. It's like, so that's why they say that it's cunning, baffling, and powerful. That's what they say about alcoholism. And it is. Which is a bigger problem in our country, would you say? Opioids. Bigger than alcohol. Oh, for sure. I think that's one of the biggest problems. And compare that to fentanyl? Oh, yeah. Well, that's the problem is people are making fake opioids because they can't afford real wins.

31:37They're just getting them off the street, and then they put fentanyl in them. Fentanyl's like laced into everything now. It's horrible. It's horrible. Yeah, they found something in a baby rattle somewhere, I think. I don't even know where that was. But one of the things I wanted to ask you about was like, so there's like the big pharma lobbyists. Like there's 1 ,800 big pharma lobbyists in Washington, D.C. There's only 535 total representatives or senators total. So just the fact that there's this whole other almost drug government that's there kind of pushing the, you know, pushing agendas and influencing things.

32:15Like, how do we stop that? Man, it just seems like it's obviously killing people. Like people are dying. You know, it's like, what do we have to do that our own government won't help us? Well, you have to stop listening to lobbyists. You know, I was not a big person for lobbyists. And if they have even a little access to like a president or a senator or a congressman or woman, they get a lot of money. And in some cases they just take the money, they don't do anything, But you have a lot of lobbyists in Washington pushing and certainly a lot for the for all of the things that we're talking about, including alcohol.

32:52The lobbyists are winning. It feels like they're winning. They're making a lot of money. Can you stop that? Can a president stop that? Like, how do we stop that? Well, one way you could stop it is to say if you're going to go into government, you can never be a lobbyist. in many cases they have rules and regulations where you can't do it for four years three years five years whatever you mean be a lobbyist after you were an elected official i mean you could say you could say that you if you're an elected official or if you work in government you can never be a lobbyist you have people that work in government and they give out contracts to the military and then they leave and they work for them for the people that they're giving out contracts too.

33:33It's exactly what happened with the Sackler family with the drug companies. They hired people that were on the FDA to work for them so they could loophole the laws. But can we outlaw lobbyists or we can't do that? Well, there's a whole constitutional thing there. I mean, can you make somebody never, ever go into the business? If you work for government, and especially if you're giving out contracts, in other words, you're a powerful person within some industry, the Navy, the Army, any, you know, anything. It could be military procurement, et cetera. There's a whole thing like, there's a whole question as to, you give out a contract and then all of a sudden you're working for the person you gave out the contract to or the company that you gave out the contract to.

34:16Right. It's like you're playing both sides in the net. Well, it's, and it's obviously a problem and it's a big problem. And we were doing things about it, but then we had to get down to other business. We had to solve some, we had a lot of problems. Yeah. A lot of problems. It's pretty clear that the establishment doesn't like you, I would say. What do you think? Well, I think the people like me. Oh, yeah, the people. We're leading now in all the polls. We're leading in Rasmussen just came out a little while. Rasmussen's a very highly regarded poll, and we're leading by five points. Rasmussen poll.

34:46I haven't seen that. And others also, and we're doing well. But I think the people like me a lot. I agree. We won, and then we did. Oh, no doubt. So we won in 2016 and then we did much better in 2020. Much better. Got millions and millions more votes. Why does the establishment keep trying to sink you? Like what is it that they are so afraid of? In some cases, the things we're talking about right now, they want to sell product that I'm not interested in. They want to have certain boats and certain ships and certain planes and certain everything bought. pharma is another one that's you know interesting or do they push back against you you think uh yeah i think they do well uh yeah i think i think it's pretty obvious that they do in one way that's a positive thing politically because when you can show that they push back the voters seem to like it but we have a lot of a lot of popularity we have a lot of uh a lot of people that want to see me come back and win because we had a great time we had the greatest economy in history when I was president.

35:51Oh, yeah. My cousin got a boat. Yeah, we had the best job numbers. African-American, Hispanic-American, if you look, Asian-American job numbers, women, men, everybody. We did a lot of good things. We cut taxes more than anybody else, including Ronald Reagan. We cut regulations, which created jobs. We had a great period of time, and I think the people wanted back. Based on what I'm seeing, the people wanted back. One thing that you did, recently we had Bernie Sanders on. Interesting. And I know. That's very interesting. Certainly, you guys don't agree on a lot of things, but I think you both acknowledge how horribly rigged the health care system is against the American people.

36:35Because hospitals and insurance companies get away with hiding their prices from all of us, and literally they can charge whatever they want. You know, it's like you sign up and say, yes, I'll pay. You trust the hospital, but then you get home and the bill is, it's whatever, you know, which pretty much feels like some form of extortion to me. That's what it seems like to me. It's a form. But you had an executive order where you created a federal rule forcing hospitals and insurers to publish all their prices, right? So that people would be able to know, okay, if an MRI costs$600 here and it's$5 ,000 there, then I can go here and save myself money.

37:14But that hasn't even been enforced. Like, um, hospitals, Biden got away with it. Hospitals and insurance companies, they're not in, they're still not showing their prices. They hated it. Of course they did. And because it would, would have made it very competitive and Biden let it go. He didn't, he never enforced it. And to get that approved was a big deal. And that would have brought down the price of, you know so many things not only you know just care right care physical care mental care that would have brought down the cost of care by 50 60 percent and biden and kamala didn't press it it was a big thing to get it but i'll be pressing it and because i'll be pressing it yeah and because i'll be pressing it there are some people that are vehemently against it for financial reasons you know, for money reasons.

38:04But I'll be pressing. Those people can go to hell, dude. That's insane. Yeah, no, they're bad people. Especially because one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in America is medical debt. I mean, it's, that's crazy. And I don't even think I made that up either. No, it's, when you think of it, at first when you said it, I said, wow. And then I'm thinking about it, I'm saying it's really not a wow. It's, I understand it. Yeah. Tremendous lobby, tremendous, powerful lobby. Well, yeah, because, I mean, think about what else is going to put you in medical, like, in that much of a debt. It's like, I think that's, I believe that that's accurate.

38:40Who's behind the healthcare, insurance, that whole thing? Like, who's behind it all? It feels like Chuck Schumer is this kind of, like, deviant mastermind back there somewhere. Well, he's one of the people that is hurt, and he's one of the people that keeps the prices high. and he's, you know, gets a lot of contributions from the people on the other side. Yeah, and him and plenty of other people, a lot of people. It's a very powerful lobby. But wouldn't they want people - You know the most powerful lobby? The lawyer lobby. That's the - And that feeds into that also. You know, it all feeds into it.

39:13Wait, hold on, just so I understand, Donald, sorry. So that lobby is a very powerful one. Yeah. But why do those people want people to suffer though? Just so they can make money? Yeah. That's great. Yeah, it really has to do with money. That's crazy. How much money do they need? They probably start off by saying this is terrible, and then they eventually say, well. But can we just as a country say, hey, how much? Okay, you need$3 million. We'll give you that. Fuck off. We want to be healthy. Can't we make a deal with those people? They're very tough to deal with, and they've been taken care of by drug companies and others for years.

39:49You have politicians that have been for years being taken care of by people that make a lot of money and they want to keep making a lot of money. And it is, I mean, in that case, it's not a power thing. It's a money thing. Yeah. A lot of money. What are some of the other lobbies that are out there that we don't even know about? Well, the most powerful lobby is the lawyer lobby, I would say. The teacher's lobby is important or powerful. Sometimes really to the detriment of everybody. But the most powerful lobby is probably the lawyers Who would think that, right? But they have, that's why if you wanted to get rid of court cases and cut down litigation costs, which in this country is out of control, loser pays.

40:35What you do is you go loser pays. In other words, the loser of a lawsuit has to pay for the other side, has to pay back all the money the other side spent. You think that would solve it? Yeah, it would get rid of 75, 80 % of the litigation. We are a very litigious country. It's on everything's under. It's all bureaucratic. It's all boy. It's all dirty paperwork. It's a bunch of rigmarole. Well, if that would happen, you'd get rid of a lot of it. But the lawyers are opposed to it. It will it probably will not happen no matter what, because obviously the lawyers want to. Can you do what would have to happen?

41:09The Supreme Court would have to vote on something to make it happen. I don't know. I think that maybe would have to go before the Supreme Court. but the most powerful lobby is that lobby. And if you wanted to get rid of litigation, if you went, and, you know, Europe has it, a lot of places have it in different countries where loser pays. If you sue somebody and you lose, you have to, you have to pay the costs of the other side. Yeah. That makes sense. I think. And what happens is people don't sue. It's a tremendous difference, but this country, the lawyers are very much opposed to it in this country.

41:43It's too bad. Yeah, man, it's just pretty heartbreaking, I feel like. There was a rumor that you almost had RFK Jr. as a potential vice president. No. Okay. Just a rumor. I like him. I've always liked him. Yeah, I like him too. Bobby and I are friends. He's a friend of mine. I've known him for years. He's a good man. Yeah. He's in there pitching. It's tough. It's a two-party system, and he's a third party. It's a tough thing. He can't get registered now in New York. I see New York and the Democrats have really opposed him vehemently. I haven't, but the Democrats have really opposed him. So you think he should be allowed to run everywhere?

42:23Well, the laws don't allow that. Okay. And the laws don't allow, unless you have 15 or 20%, whatever it is, they don't allow you to debate. You don't have to debate. So you can't get on the stage. You can't, the debates are very important. I mean, I had a debate with Joe Biden. Oh yeah. And that was a very meaningful, that was a very consequential debate, to put it mildly. Well, yeah, they took the hand out of the puppet after that. Well, they wanted to debate. They gave me everything that I didn't want, CNN. And then they gave me Dana Bash and Jake Tapper. Now, remember this. They were very straight during that debate.

43:00I gained a certain respect because Jake Tapper, who I call fake Tapper, but I don't do that. I saw him at Whole Foods. I don't do that so much anymore. You did. But I thought they were very even-handed, if you want to know the truth, during the debate. I didn't feel like they pushed a lot of stuff. They had certain pressure on them to be even-handed. I think it's hard to not do that. But they were very even-handed. And it was a great debate, but a very important debate. Well, after that, it seemed like suddenly everybody had been like, oh, Biden's fine. In America, for like 18 months, like my dad was really old when I was born.

43:38My dad was 70 when I was born, right? So I don't like seeing senior citizens take advantage of. I felt like that happened a lot when I was a kid. And so I think for me, it reflected on me like it made me really angry because I was like, I know this guy's not well. It's not fair to pretend that he's well. It's not fair to him because he doesn't know you're pretending, you know? And it just seemed like the cruelest thing you could do. And then we're all kind of supposed to believe this thing that we know is not real. Our media is just saying this is real. and we're like we're all just being gaslit as humans about something that's like moral like this is a human man this is somebody's grandfather and then they just disappear he just disappears and suddenly it's like it was a coup Kamala is the is the one that went in what do you think happened in the back rooms there because that almost was overnight that happened I know what happened and you're not supposed to do that it's not supposed to be probably constitutional she got no votes he got 14 million votes all of a sudden they're telling him to get out or they they threatened him but who were they angry person well i would say schumer pelosi and numerous other people uh the heads of the democrat party yeah and they did they threatened him violently i think and he didn't want to get out remember he said only god will get me out right only god will get me Somebody dressed up like God and just chased him out of there.

45:03Yeah, and what happened is they went to him and they said, this was after the debate. Now, if he didn't have the debate, he would still be running. So they set him up. They knew they were going to pull him. That I don't know. I mean, he had his debate. Maybe he wanted to. I heard he didn't. I heard they offered me things that I would never accept, and I accepted them. They said CNN. They said Jake Tapper, Dana Bash. They said all things that I could not take. And I accepted all of them. And, you know, look, it was a good debate for me. It wasn't a good debate for him. I think he'd still be running right now.

45:40You wouldn't have her. She was one of the most disrespected people in the whole country. She was a failed vice president. She was the most, she was considered the worst vice president in the history of our country. She had no chance. You know, if you go back six weeks, they were saying how bad she was. and they wanted to choose from 11 different people. Do you feel - I thought that's what they were going to have. Oh, you thought that's what they were going to do? Well, that would have seemed more democratic, I think. They wanted to be politically correct and they chose her. I feel like it would have seemed more - But dude, I got so angry when they sidetracked Bernie a few years ago.

46:20That wasn't fair. Happened to Bernie twice. Yeah. You got to - You think about it. Yeah. Oh, it was crazy. Yeah. 2016, yeah. He just got, you know, it just wasn't cool. Like whatever you think. It's just like, we have to be able to believe that. Do you like Bernie? Are you friends with him or something? No, I met him the other day. Was that the first time? It was the first time. Were you impressed by him? I, yeah. One thing, he's still sharp, right? Oh, yeah, he's still sharp. He doesn't suffer from what Biden did. No, no, no, no. Mental dullness. Yeah. Right? I mean, mentally gone. Biden is just, Biden is like.

46:52Mentally gone. He's, you know, somebody put a merry-go-round in his head, I heard. But that's, you know, but they didn't plug it in. they didn't tell him. Yeah, that's probably right. But no, one thing I liked about Bernie, one of the things is, is the healthcare. I just feel like we spend so much money in different places and people are sick and the opioid epidemic, I just feel like, and the lower cost of drugs, those are things that I - And did Bernie, because I got insulin down and they took credit for it. But I got it down to$35. And I said, I hope I win because somebody's going to take credit.

47:24It takes a period of time before it kicks in, statutorily, and I got it down to$35, which is a very low price. And they took credit for it, which is, you know, now I'm taking credit because I'm talking to you. Well, yeah, if you did it, then you should be able to take credit for it. I just watched her performance today. So she went out and. Who, Kamala? Yeah, she lied about everything. She said, this Trump tax, that Trump tax, that Trump tax. He's going to tax this. He's going to tax all these different things. And I'm not going to tax them. She made it up. did you know that four companies control over 80 percent of the u.s meat industry and china now controls the largest portion of u.s pork these companies are using mobster-like tactics to crush american family farms and with the additives that they're putting into our food americans are stuck with sketchy meat so what can we do about it let me tell you about a company that's coming up swinging on behalf of the American Family Farms and your family's food security.

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50:53I'll tell you what, if she's the worst vice president ever, he's the worst president ever, a deadly combination. and we have a country where the borders are bad, where the world is blowing up. You look at Israel, you look at Ukraine, you look at all the different things that are happening. And she has no clue. And you know what I say about her? Why don't you do it? You know, she complains about everything. She's been there for three and a half years. Why don't you do it? All you have to do is say, why don't you do it? Why didn't you fix it? You could fix it right now. Don't do whatever you're doing.

51:26And she won't talk to you and she won't talk to anybody. She won't be interviewed. she's welcome to come on i would love to get to talk to her i'm sure she'd be very exciting um actually you could make her exciting you think yeah i think somebody said she's a good roller skater that's what i heard which is crazy that's about it yeah

51:45we're gonna wrap it up soon okay is that what you're saying okay donald sorry um speaking of uh speaking of kamala and speaking of the border we had two border patrol agents that came on in the past two years right because we wanted to learn about it from people that are there on the ground and one of the things that we found out was a lot of times they keep arresting the same people because the the the uh people that are coming in illegally aren't being prosecuted that's one of the biggest problems they were saying um what can we do differently to make things safe at the border it's the fact that a family can't a father can't you know can't sleep at night because he doesn't know who's going through his yard or going through it it's just not fair it's not what you sign up for when you're an american what what are you going to do differently so the borders well i did it.

52:28We had the best border. Oh, the wall. They should have kept it. I agree. We had the wall built. We had more going to come long beyond what I promised. I built hundreds of miles of wall and it worked. Walls work. You know, walls and wheels. I say it all the time. Two things they never get obsolete. Wheels and walls. Well, they also supplied infrastructure. Like people don't understand the wall also was a place where border patrol agents could go to get water, to get food, to rest. It provided like a shelter out there as well. They're in the middle of nowhere. They said it worked. The two that I've spoken to said it worked.

53:00And I was going to do 200 miles of wall. We had it built and we, you know, to the specs specifications of the border patrol, we were going to put it up and it would take three weeks to put it up. That's an additional 200 miles to fill up certain areas that, you know, when you make the wall, then all of a sudden they start coming through other areas. We had it wired and they wouldn't do it. They wouldn't put it up. And I realized they wanted open borders. Kamala wants open borders. She's going to have open borders. We'll have 50, 60 million people because of them. Sick. We have over 20 million people, in my opinion, right now that came into our country.

53:39Many come from prisons, jails, mental institutions, many terrorists. Do you know that other countries now, their crime rate is way down because they're sending all their criminals. It's a party. They're sending all of their criminals to us. And who would take this? Why is this a good thing? It's horrible. She should be ashamed. And, you know, she was the border czar, too. He put her in charge. She was the worst border czar in the history of the world. She's a roller skater. That's what somebody told me the other day. She's terrible. But what are you going to do? What's going to happen with the border when you're back?

54:11We're going to seal the border. And I had it very well sealed. We had the most successful border in the history of our country. We're going to seal the border. We're going to finish up certain areas of the wall because they didn't do it. And we're going to have an unbelievable border. And we're going to spend a lot of time getting the criminals out. Look, we have murderers in our country. Oh, I don't think people should be allowed to be in our country if they're criminals. Well, then you're going to be very unhappy to know that we have a lot of people, hundreds of thousands of murderers. We have people, drug dealers, talking about drugs.

54:44It's not even believable that they'll do it. So what they've done is they've allowed murderers, people in prisons, people in jails, people in mental institutions in San Jose and terrorists to pour into our country by the hundreds of thousands. And they are in our country right now. And the country that brought them out said, if you ever come back, we're giving you the death penalty or we're going to kill you. Well, in Brooklyn alone, there's a huge building that is housing just Haitian people. There's housing that's wandering around Brooklyn all the time, my friends are telling me. They have some rough people too, really rough people.

55:18So if you get reelected to the border, you're going to continue that project? Well, I had it done. We're going to make sure it's safe? We had the safest border and the best border in the history of our country. And now it's a disaster. Biden, somebody invited Biden to the border and they said he went to a border's books, dude. And I was like, that's. Well, they invited her and she went to a place that doesn't have a problem. She's a disaster. She is the worst vice president. It's the worst administration in the history of our country. She's a part of it. And she won't do an interview. She would never do an interview like this.

55:52She won't do an interview. I'd love her. Yeah, I'd want to learn more about her. Well, I think you should ask her to come on. Tell Barron I said thanks, man. Good. Yeah. He's a big fan. I hope to get to meet him someday. He seems like a neat kid. Yeah, he is. He's great. Is he? Yeah. And yeah, thank you for your time. I can't believe that I got to be able to sit down with you. I'm grateful to Dana White as well for setting this up. Yeah. And, yeah, I just appreciate you giving me your time today, Donald Trump. Thank you so much. Good luck with your situation. You're going to do it. You beat it, right?

56:21Oh, yeah. You beat it. Good luck with it. Thank you, brother. Thank you very much. Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. For 50 years now, hip-hop has been a reflection of culture and society. That includes stories of struggle and pain, social injustice, Racial inequality. The marginalization of communities. Today, we confront a healthcare system that has been rigged against all of us. Hospitals force patients to sign contracts for services without ever showing us actual prices. Stifling competition. Overcharging without accountability. And if we can't pay, these same contracts allow them to take everything we own.

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