E529 Post Malone

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37:38Oh, he's a pro-craste? He dates men? Like, what does it mean? What does this all mean? Yeah, I think some people don't know, dude. He eats mud. I think, yeah. No, I'm glad you sounded it out. Yeah, I had to. Absolutely. Yeah, but every school project, it was the night before. Dude, same. Yeah, yeah. So it's like a school project kind of for me. And there's so many great options, and that's why I just want, you know, that's my excuse. There's so many great options is I just want to make it right, you know. Yeah. and will you yeah will you change them up do you think you can alternate some of them yeah that's what we were kind of thinking of is having like that's a great idea either like local act start which i love i love doing that and then um you know either like take it in like quadrants or quarters you know and um have you know different artists who are available come out and open up and i think that's fun you know and that kind of encourages people if they want if they love that person to come to a show even if they don't like me and maybe then they will you know what i mean it's just like you know i just want people to have a great time you know and just come out and have fun so it feels like that man i felt like that last night like a lot of your energy is very like gratuitous you're like just thanking people for coming and you know you feel a lot of like um indebted almost in a way absolutely i there is so it's no it's not I don't mean that as a negative.

39:01No, not at all. Yes, sir. But you can feel like, oh, this guy, he really, he feels that we're here. Yes. And that we've come to see him. Yeah, that's like, for me, it's, I know there's so many much more talented people, like fuck those naturally talented people that are just so awesome at everything, you know. Justin Bieber, I'm talking about. Yeah, I'll name him right now. Justin Bieber, John Mayer. Sure. Ric Flair. Okay. Okay. Lil Debbie. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Yep. That cake bitch. People call her on Reddit, and I didn't say it. And who else? Probably. Oh.

39:46Count of three. Jesus Christ. Oh, damn, dude. Close. Same. We'll add them both. Fuck Paddington Bear. Okay. and we'll okay so Paddington's out I love all of you by the way I'm just fucking around Paddington's a fictional character Jesus isn't we'll put him in there so Jesus isn't Biebs is very much real though yeah Biebs is real and Ric Flair I love both of you so much but yeah you know it's like people could be anywhere in the world and it is true oh yeah and it is true and they spent their time hanging with me and that means the fucking world to me you know what I mean oh that's what feels the toughest sometimes when you have a show that's kind of you feel like Like, oh, maybe it didn't.

40:29And sometimes it's the acoustics or sometimes it's the way that the venue is shaped. It's like you don't even know. That's the toughest thing sometimes. Yeah. You know, like you're playing in a hockey rink and you're like, well, this is not even built for this. Right. We're trying to make it this. We're all doing our best. And maybe you just feel like, what if they don't know that, you know? Right. I don't know. And at rehearsals, too, I didn't realize how steep it was. It's so steep going up. Where at? Like at the Opry. Oh. it's just like um there's people all the way up here and at rehearsals i didn't even see that because that like wasn't lit my god but maybe it was lit and i just wasn't paying attention yeah maybe you were but i came in and i yeah absolutely well absolutely that's a given but i walked out and i was like oh shit there's a lot of folks here this is crazy i think it seats 5 000 people it's so cool it's so cool man it was magical man we sat next to there was a japanese family and I'm paraphrasing because they may or may not have been Japanese, but they were near Japan or semi-near.

41:28Okay. And they were enjoying. It was unbelievable. I was like, wow. I'm at the Grand Ole Opry, and I'm with a Japanese family enjoying Post Malone. It was awesome. It's pretty good. You can't write it. It felt good. Yeah. Yeah, what's your kiddo like? I don't know if I – She's a stud. Oh, it's a baby. It's a girl. Oh, sweet. She's a stud. She was there last night. She was? You saw her. She's about 6 '4". Oh, dang. Just massive. She might have dunked on you. That's her thing. She loves dunking on me. Really? That's a big deal? She's like, she's probably two feet tall. Oh, yeah. She's so cool, man.

42:06Like, it changes everything. It's so bitchin' to have a baby. Were you there when she was born? I pulled her out of the coochie. No, you didn't. Yeah, I did. They let me bring my katana in. What kind of shoes did you wear? closed toed obviously I know this anybody closed toed shoes I think that's what God wants yeah you have to well it's like science class because you're figuring this shit out it's like whenever you had an Erlenmeyer flask or whatever you're like I don't fucking know like what the hell's going on closed toed shoes no flammable clothing and hair tied back you know anybody that wears open toed shoes to their child's birth is obviously first of all a Jimmy Buffett fan well fuck yeah Well, that's the one exception.

42:50I think Jimmy Buffett could wear thongs to the child's birth, I think. Well, what are you supposed to wear? I don't know what you're supposed to wear. It makes sense to wear like a suit, right? It makes sense to dress up. Yeah, like him. Exactly. Yeah. Living on umbilical fluid. I like fucking, yeah. Stepped on a pop top. That's crazy. It makes sense also. It'd be cool to prank the shit out of your kid. doesn't know anything and just wear full camo balaclava everything just full real tree or fucking multi-cam anything and she can't see you oh and you just pull out she thinks she's floating yeah and everyone else does too and then years later there's a game show it's a big reveal exactly or yeah you wear camo your whole life yeah oh yes and then it's like who is my father whoop there he is my dad or she picks willy from duck dynasty and you're like cool yeah cool well fuck i wish willy from no i don't i love my dad so much but if i had two dads it would be willy and my dad and willy robertson is so funny what a stud man bro he's one of the funniest guys yeah man, Cy.

44:03Uncle Cy was a gangster, dude. Yeah, boy. Uncle Cy was a savage, dude. I love that, man. I forgot about that show. A lot of people have. That show was huge. Huge. So crazy. Good for them, dude. People were doing duck calls. People were, yeah, what's it like? I don't have any children yet. I want to have some children, I think, but I just got to get a wife and stuff, and I've just been working so much. Was it hard to make the choice to have a child? No. I've been horny for a long time.

44:36yeah I've always wanted to be a dad and for a long time um I always told myself like when I was like younger and going through shit like you know coming up when I was like you know 20 21 22 and all that I was like oh I need a kid but that was to like it's a for a selfish reason it was to feel something that I felt like I was missing. Um, but at one point I was like, I want to create a fucking awesome life and create life. And whenever I realized that it wasn't for a selfish reason, um, then I was like, let's fucking do it. And then I made a baby with my jizz and it's fucking awesome. It's cool.

45:25Is it? It's so cool. Like, oh, I was saying, I pulled her right out. No way you didn't. By the head. I did. I got gloved up. And they let you do it? There's not somebody there? Is there a lifeguard or something? Well, I don't know. My doctor was such a baller. He was? I don't know if it's got to be. Would you meet him on the app or whatever? Yeah, well, she was what app? I don't know. I'm just joking. The app. It sounds like my doctor was such a baller. I'm like, where did you guys meet? I met her on WikiFeet, actually. She had a 4.8 and I was like, this is good enough. Oh, my bad. But you couldn't see it because the shoe rule The close toed You can't wear open toed shoes She was like Sorry I'm joking too much At one time she looked at me And she goes scrub up And I'm like What And fucking I did And then I grabbed her head And I pulled her out And so I'm trying to equate How hard did it feel like Did it pull tough or was it easy You gotta pull hard scary hard because babies are really floppy.

46:25You know, floppy and malleable. Like pure gold. One of the most malleable of metals. You can make gold out of anything, I've heard. Is that true? I don't know. I heard that on a Joe Rogan podcast. The alchemy. Is that what he said? No, I remember you and him talking about that. Actually, it's so crazy. That hit my head. What did I say? I don't remember what happened. I just remember, yeah, you guys were joking around about it. It makes sense. Yeah, it was perfect. Well, I did make gold out of anything. If you call jizz anything. and if you call your daughter gold exactly that's what I call her that's her name and she's like scrub up pull her out pull the hard cause you're scared you don't want to break them and where do you pull do you pull from under the arms right on the head at first like one of those crazy chiropractors you seen those guys oh my god it's like a fucking mortal combat fatality I'm like no way you pay to get fatality by this fucking dude and fucking Encino Have you seen Brother Neck Magic?

47:26I don't think I'd like to. Can you pull up some Brother Neck Magic? Pull up some Brother Neck Magic if you can real quick. There you go. Let's see that. That might be it. Crazy Chiropractic It sounds like a fucking mixtape from Crazy Chiropractic Neck Pain Injection. This is fire. How there isn't

47:52slide on this. When does he pull her spine out? Like with her skull attached. This lady's never going to be able to read again, dude.

48:10Fuck, she's dead. I saw that. Do the one where they put the wakeboarding rope up to the neck or whatever. That's the crazy one, dude. and I think they do that down in Orlando during the wakeboarding championships or whatever. Yeah, deep wide strap adjustment. Bro, you've been involved in this? If your kid ends up doing this, that's going to be full circle, bro. Yeah, get to the big pole at the end where they look at that. Yeah, where the lady tells all her secrets right after. Sorry, lay your head back down. You used to have like cowboy chiropractors just rope you and fucking and then you're like, alright, you're good, go home.

48:46Chin strap. Yeah, I mean look at this. This is insane.

48:53Okay, obviously. So you didn't use this, you used the hands, huh? Used my bare hands, with gloves. Nitrile gloves, I think they were 5mm. Do it okay? Okay. So we'll do our 30 second hold. We'll do our 30 second hold and then we'll do our tug, okay? Yeah, there you go, get up to there. Yeah, that mustard plate's, oh my god. Oh, there he did. Fuck, dude. It's a lot. It's more pops. Why? So when you get around, what do you guys do then? Who gets - is your - and is the mom awake during this? Yes, sir. She is - she's full awake. She's not on her phone or anything, is she? She's on Clash of Clans. It's like, get this shit out of me.

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53:09Reiki? Yeah that energy healing Like if you go to Maui People offer that Everybody does it I haven't tried it Have you tried it? People are like I'll do Reiki I'll sell you dope There's like There's a Just a dude by the beach He's like I'll sell you a bracelet Weed And do some Reiki on you right now Yeah You're like he's like for 40 bucks fuck the pack 40 large yeah 40 large homie you're like i mean for 44 thousand yeah i mean think of all the reiki you could get yeah that'd be a lot of reiki dude um you're single with morgan already when it's it's to the moon dude when you sang that last night it's a lot of words people loved it how long did it take to shoot the video where did you got to shoot that at we shot that in a day um near stagecoach so we were doing stagecoach the um the day after i think and morgan had some time and we had time and we just got together and i think the last time that flag was used was like at joe biden's inauguration no way that's what they were saying the flag was huge i've never seen anything like it it was dope some of those shots you can see the flag of the disc.

54:21It's really cool. Very cool. Morgan's so funny, dude. He's amazing. Who wrote the song? Did you guys write it together or did you guys? Yeah, we wrote it together. We cut another song too. I think I did. I think I remember doing a verse. It was one of those long nights, but that song's awesome too. Is it out yet or no? No, sir. Okay. I don't know if he's going to do anything with it, but the song, I remember it being awesome. Also, I was having a lot of fun yeah but yeah we were just all together and cheese was there and learn and it was just killer i love writing songs yeah with my buddies and that's like you go and you look at the writers on each of these songs on the record is because it's not like there's a lot of motherfuckers on every song and because like i've never been here i don't know like before before months ago yes sir yeah before like six seven months ago like i'd never worked here and um i didn't know it was like a nine to five kind of deal but we would go to the studio at like 7 p.m and stay till like 4 in the morning and we will just hang out and have some beers and smoke and laugh and that's i think like like i said earlier you know that's just how songs get made you're like oh that's a song let's build around it and then someone comes in with the next line and you're like oh that's fucking killing and you just keep going and it snowballs into a a song you know i knew during the pandemic i remember telling people like hey morgan is the next elvis presley like do you guys realize like he had a trainer and one of his trainers is now um also works security with him yes sir and so uh we would go train with the guy and he and i would go out on i think it was like 17th or 18th street in nashville and be doing like reps out there and like walking up hills with the weights and stuff.

56:12And it was like, now he could never do that. Oh yeah. But then we'd be out there just doing our reps and stuff like that. It was me, him, sometimes earn. And, um, yeah, just bring her out a whole bunch, huh? Her came out sparingly, but he came out rather. Love you. Yeah. Her came out sparingly, but he came out and, uh, yeah. And I was like, I dude, I was like, I was, I remember telling my friends, like he's the next Elvis Presley. Do you think he's the best that he'll be, go down as like the greatest country artist of all time?

57:16I have a little bias. artist of all time maybe you know what i mean like it's it's like the trajectory it's fucking insane it really is insane yeah i mean every one of his so many of the songs are the craziest thinking about morgan i'll be around morgan and i'll just start singing one of his songs because it's stuck in my head it sucks you feel like a weirdo but then you're like oh i can't sing that song and you'll sing another what you got to do is change the lyrics and then tell him you wrote it and then he might use it. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, and then you get songwriting credits.

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58:28What thing? Yeah We don't have to get into it I hear there's a sign now Oh that says about the chair That you can't throw the chair Yeah it's like Don't even try You're not Morgan Or something That's what I heard Really? Yeah that's what I heard That there's a sign That says don't throw anything Off this building You're not Morgan. Verbatim is what I heard. I haven't seen it. I haven't been into Eric's bar. I'm trying to think what I would throw off a building, dude. Oh, dude, you know what I would throw off a building? I would throw a replica of the building off the building. That's fire. Because if somebody's like, hey, I just got hit by that building, and then the officer would be like, what are you talking about?

59:03They're like, yeah, I just got hit by a really small building of that building. And the officer would be like, you're going to jail. You're on drugs. To the other officer? Yeah. Yeah, cool. like I said there's a random stranger walking on the street and I throw like a replica of like a I mean like a state capital I'm up there at the top 200 stories up I throw that bitch off okay and it's a replica of the building that I'm in okay it hits somebody like oh shit dude drop my fucking five guys you know and they tell the police hey somebody just threw that building at me now there's a couple things that you can't get in trouble for throwing off of a building What?

59:41If it's a brick building, bricks. Yeah. Because you'd be like, oh, it's going down. It's falling. Or it's just age, you know? And also bird shit. You can throw as much bird shit off of a building as you want. Because who's going to prove it that you did it? Who's going to prove that you did it? Oh, you saying I'm a bird? Oh, you saying I'm throwing bird shit on people down there? Prove it. What about the birds? Exactly. What's another thing you could throw off the roof of a building? Oh, a little meteor Yeah, a little meteor rock A piece of gibbous meteor Yeah, a little meteor, dude You could just throw pieces of a meteor off the roof Whatever, man Free Morgan, dude Nobody got hit, baby Free Morgan, man That's all I'm saying, dude Dude, did you ever get to meet like Elvis Presley or anything like that?

1:00:33Yep Did you really? No I was born in 1995 Oh, and when was Elvis dead? That's a good question. Yeah. Have you been to Graceland? It's amazing. I jumped in the pool. What? Why? They let me. Nuh-uh. Was it after hours or something? It was for, I think, a New Year's thing, and he died 77. You're way off, Theovan. My bad, dude. My bad. Well, it's crazy, yeah. But, like, we did that deal. I played Devil in Disguise, and they let me jump in the pool. Wow. It was amazing. I love Elvis Presley. Yeah. It was so cool. It's now or never. Yeah, it's Christmas stuff, man. Dude, the craziest thing about Graceland, I didn't know he's buried there.

1:01:28I didn't know that either. So we're going on the tour, and we're like, this is a lamp and stuff. this way out, but she used to hug his wife and kiss his mama. You had a cool tour guide. This guy, he's a pervert. He said kiss his mama about 40 times in a row. He'd be like, and kiss his mama. Like, he didn't need me with kiss his mama. What was his name? Huh? What was his name? I think his name, it was like kind of like this, it was like a redneck sort of Native American. I think his name was like Featherbed or something. And he'd be like, and he'd be like,

1:02:05and people and there's some old women that are like and I'm like and the guy's like why is that guy's lips all wet what's up with this dude right and there's no manager there you're just stuck with whoever the tour guy is dude you know he wasn't even a guy he was just a guy he just came but then we get out the back and like if you guys want to go smoke you can go out there so there's people out there and i'm vaping and his grave is right i'm like wait he's buried here i did not know that yeah it blew my mind yeah it's a beautiful beautiful place and it's like crazy like you they say i didn't get to go up in the room it was late uh but they say nothing's been touched in the room in his bedroom and his slippers are still there and everything like that.

1:02:58Crazy. The museum part of it, where you can go in and see the books he was reading and everything like that, like the JFK assassination book that he was reading, that's the last book he was reading. Like crazy. Yeah, it's pretty cool. So he's kind of a conspiracy guy. Yeah, you think? Maybe. Maybe that's the conspiracy itself. maybe there is no conspiracy he'd like to kiss his mama he did like to kiss his mama like hey I we understand there's like a tour group of four people like what's up with this dude he'd like to kiss his mama I like Featherbed he sounds cool what was your mom like dude is your mom a cool lady cause you have a stepmom right and do you have a real mom too Yes, sir.

1:03:52Yeah. Because some people, I don't know if some people were adopted. I don't know if you had a real mom. Yes, sir. Yeah. My mom's name's Nicole. Oh, that's a nice name. It's a lovely name. It's my mom's name. Stepmom's name is Jody. Oh, that's a nice name, too. Thank you. It's my stepmom's name. My mom's name is Gina. That's a beautiful name. You know what name I like? Emmy Lou. I think that's a pretty name. No? Yeah. You don't like it? No, I did. I liked it. At first I was like, but then I was like, yeah, Amy Lou. I like it. What name do you like for your daughter? I kind of like Moira. Moira's a beautiful name.

1:04:31That's a Magic the Gathering name. Is it really? You play Magic the Gathering? Moira. No, no, no. We play, what do we play? Sometimes gin, rummy or whatever. But we never done anything. We've never gotten crazy with that. One time my uncle was on weed or whatever we played. That was about as Magic the Gathering as we got. So it's more just gin, yeah. Yeah, just not as much rummy. Yeah. A lot of gin. Yeah, my ex-girlfriend Megan, me and her family used to play some sort of rummy. You like the name Megan? I do like the name Megan, actually. It's a little aggressive. Yeah. But I think sometimes women might need aggression, you know?

1:05:10Sure. So I think, yeah, I like Moira, Megan. I like Moira. You like M stuff. Amy Lou's good, though. That's M, essentially. Amy Lou seems to sound like she's going to be the rogue agent of those three. She sounds like a hard ass. Yeah, Amy Lou is going to be getting... I thought about that last night. I also like the name Llewellyn. Sounds like an elf name. Like an elf? From Lord of the Rings. Okay. Right? Yeah. You could imagine, like, Aragon going to meet with Llewellyn. Llewellyn. Well, that's like no country for old men. Maybe at a Love's truck stop, I think I could imagine. When Aragon goes to the Love's.

1:05:49Aragon at the Mapco is fucking...

1:05:56He's got to pick up some fucking sick shades. He just goes to the Battle of Twin Towers. It just says fucking, fucking... He's got a T-shirt that says, get your motor running on it. He's got a big Peterbilt fucking... Goes fucks up some orcs, dude. Killer. I love that. we were talking about moms i don't know how that happened i was just curious i didn't know like yeah i was just i guess i was just wondering where do you get your influence to be um like i think when i was a kid i always wanted my mom to see me you know and so it made me like want to um i think even at the time if i wasn't like i remember my mom sometimes like if we if we were had misbehaved we'd have to go downstairs and perform for my mom so we could get out of punishment right and i think a lot of kids have had to do that i think or it's not it wasn't like a set thing right but it was like we try to be like all right we gotta we gotta do something for mom mom's smart she's hard working let's don't waste her time let's make 120 second play you know what i'm saying it's like shark tank yeah it's shakespeare meets uh reservoir dogs okay we're gonna go in there and my two little sisters like what's happening and i'm like shut up rememberize your minds and get the fuck in there dude and put the bra on dude and they're like we're children and i'm like who's putting the bra huh who's putting it doesn't matter dude the the rules are the rules and so we would go in there and we would try to make the play and i would try to be the director and one of the actors and it was just a nightmare whatever but sometimes my mom would have so much fun out of it that she would be like okay i'll let you watch tv for half an hour or you wouldn't get in trouble yeah like right we'd be it would be excused or sometimes she would say you guys are the fucking she's like this is why i don't go see shows in this area and you guys need to go to bed you know but that was fair because we were already in trouble what was your biggest hit you think we did this sort of like it was kind of like boy meets world kind of like a paw patrol mashup right okay and it was uh some people would say it's nothing whatever we thought so much of it we thought so much of it and one of the animals got fleas we had a small dalmatian that got fleas played by my sister and um she dies immediately right in the first 40 seconds and then the last 120 seconds is there's a mourning and a small wedding okay it's small like a small family and friends type yeah it was not like nothing big right it to go from death to fucking yeah life well essentially you know like the creation of life yes and so stuff like that yeah so i think there was some things my mom appreciated about it But yeah, I was just wondering, where do you get your idea that you wanted to be seen in the world?

1:08:46And maybe that never happened to you. Maybe you're just having fun, and you're like, I'm having fun. Well, whenever she let me out of, we had a little two-by-two kind of room. It had all these locks on it. So whenever she sent me a piece of cheese with a Post-it note that said, come on out, I want to hang out. I was so pumped. You can believe how pumped I was. I can imagine, dude. Oh, and that fucking craft single. A raw craft single with a post-it on the front says, Come out. And I was so pumped. No, you know, I don't know. She's always loved me so much. All my parents have, and I'm so, you know, lucky to have such supportive parents.

1:09:31And, you know, it's awesome, too. They got me into music, like my mom and my grandma. My grandma would be flipping out, you know, seeing me play the fucking Opry. And my dad, he was a wedding DJ and he loved metal and hip hop and all that. It's just everything together gave me the appreciation of just music in general. Like, you know, I'm a believer that, like, you know, everything doesn't need to be super pigeonholed. There's fucking beauty and love in every piece of music. and that's why you listen to fucking everything and that's the best part about it it's just oh I feel like fucking this today I feel like this today and it's the best I think that's the best thing about being your own DJ is you get to like I want to play this, I want to play this and I'm going to play this that's what I feel like you are in a lot of ways in some ways and I don't mean that in any weird way but I feel like you're you're not America's DJ but you're like that's cool, say that you're America's DJ in a weird way I mean, you're born on the 4th of July.

1:10:39That's true. That's true. I mean, what else are we asking for? What the hell's going on? I'm American. But it's like, I think people find so much joy through you, you know? Does that feel like a lot of pressure? Because everybody loves you, you know? Not necessarily true. That's true. You're right. Maybe that's a weird question, man. I'm sorry to say it. That's kind of weird. What's that? No, not at all. That did. But people, I don't know. I think people relate to you for some reason. And I don't even know if it's always because of music. Yeah. It's just, dude. I think people relate to somebody trying to be themselves.

1:11:18Yes, sir. And find themselves through a medium, whether it be music or art or dance or affection. Yeah. I don't know. And it's not, I guess some of it is judgment. I don't mean it that way. I think it's more me trying to explore. you because I think that it's an interesting thing well no it's just like I'm I think people appreciate and can relate to uh being yourself and that's like that's what everyone wants to do it's hard for us it is hard it's terrible now you know it's like there's so many societal pressures I don't know. And then with the with the pickup of social media and how it just moves at 100 miles a minute.

1:12:08We talked about this a little bit earlier, but it's just 100 miles a minute. And you can't like you don't have time to even if you this is who you are, you're going to I feel the pressure to go with the next thing. You know what I mean? It's like that's why I feel bad. like for some of these kids that are just you know super immersed in social media and because it's a crazy fucking place yeah and i'm having this like debate with myself it's like oh like when do i let my daughter have a account and shit and even less like a like a uh smartphone you know what i mean i'm happy with her running around with one of those like what are they called like ladybug phones or whatever that has like your mom's number your dad's number all this shit Yeah, I think it's a T-Mobile sidekick or whatever.

1:13:01The alias too or whatever where it went like this. Or dude, what if your daughter had like one of those CB radios? Like you actually gave her one in her crib or whatever, or whatever crib she has at two and a half years old if she's still in there and that's fine. And I say, hey, keep Mendel 7. But what if she had it in there and she's just sitting in her crib and she's like, break her, break her. Well, we take certification very seriously. So once she could pass the cert class, then we can get her the CB I don't want her fucking wild rogue on the airwaves we don't need that hey this is full diaper to gray squirrel you remember that song full diaper to gray squirrel come back gray squirrel you remember that song how great would that be it was about like a teddy bear and it was about this kid and his dad had like had passed or something and he got a hold of his CB radio and was just like hey I want to be a truck driver one day uh I love everything like and then they all come and like take him for a ride in their truck and stuff like that it's a really sweet thing it was a song yes sir I would be tempted to call the police or report him at least because I know for a fact he's not certified.

1:14:20Yeah. So it's a very sweet song, but I don't want to do that, but I have to. You understand? Hey, rules are rules. Rules are rules, dude. Oh, dude, you're so fucked and you're going to be getting a big fart. That's the most I've laughed in a long time. Rules are rules, dude. Dude, what do you think? If you met an alien, right? What do you, what song would you play for them? Right? This is a big question. so say aliens come okay we send you to meet them and they're like send me huh me dude it's out of you the rock and a probably a diversity hire okay because some people don't consider the rock diverse anymore um so it's yeah yeah it's out of you a little bit of a show me what you got right so and what song do you play for the aliens right because it's got to be a banger because if the first one isn't a banger.

1:15:16It's going to be a rap, dude. Shit. When them pigs try to spit at you, drop it like it's all... That's fire. No, that's fire. I think it'd probably be Fireball Pipple. Get them ready to go Mr. 305. No problem. Get them ready to fucking go. Like, hey, let's go. How does that song go? Fireball. Fireball. Fireball. Fireball. Fireball. Fireball. I've heard that. I was at a dinner. I was at a dinner a couple of months ago and Pitbull plays, right? And we're standing there in the audience. And I think it's me and like. You can't play Pitbull at dinner. That's a rule. That's what I thought. And Pitbull's on.

1:16:04And we're like, how do we know this is a real Pitbull? There could be 30 Pitbulls playing around America right now. He went to perform. It was Pitbull? Pitbull, they said, was playing. But then we looked at the guy and we're like, this could be any Uber driver. You never get close up shots of Pitbull. That's the thing. And he's always got big glasses. Yes. He was like, dude, there could be seven Pitbulls playing right now. It's just like birds aren't real. Maybe fucking Pitbull ain't real. Pitbull ain't real. Maybe. Bro, first of all, this is any. Pull up that picture right there in the middle, right above, right there.

1:16:35This is any Uber driver. I don't see that. Right. And that's me saying it. You don't have to say it. And that's fine, dude. But yeah. Oh, no, I don't see these. Kind of. Is that Pitbull on the right? Who knows? Maybe. Look at that. Nobody knows if it's Pitbull. Is that a mugshot? Go back to this one. Is that a mugshot? That's a mugshot. Because if that's a mugshot, that's the hardest mugshot of all time. That's not Pitbull. That's Jeff Bezos, of course. Let's see right there. It could have been anybody. It could be Pitbull. It could be Whammeron. How about Jeff Bezos getting down? Look at the heart glasses.

1:17:12Where is he here? What festival is this? Bro, he's delivering packages, you feel me? You dig? That's all I'm saying. That guy, dude, my friend told me that he can bust big loads, dude. I made that up. I made that up. My buddy told me he bust fat nuts. My buddy told me he got big busts. That's just a rant. You're on the Elvis tour and Featherbed comes and says, Did you hear about Jeff Bezos? He's busting fat nuts. They call him Jeff Bussos I've been kissing your mother And this is where He kisses mom Overnight delivery Can't decide what's going on Can't decide What is this show about Jesus Christ You were saying I'm so sorry You were saying No I was saying You're pulling your child Out of your wife's vagina Exactly Exactly.

1:18:10Let's get back. So anyways, you got a stepmom.

1:18:16I like this Jeff Bezos, though, I'll say. Well, I'll say this. The guy's incredible. He's obviously an incredible businessman. Well, I like this version. Oh, yeah. Whatever he's up to. He's amazing. I can't even believe it. Amazon is going to like, it's going to probably be very dystopian. It's going to be scary, I think. What does dystopian mean? Like, kind of like Orwellian. okay so um like foreign mystical spacey exactly i think that that's verbatim the definition i just think like it's like very thought policey um there you go okay here we go dystopian relating to or denoting an imagined state of society where there is great suffering or injustice the dystopian future of a society bereft of reason and then the noun is a person who imagines or foresees a state or society where there's great suffering or injustice so it's like i think with all the drones like you now we were just in san francisco and our driver got cut off by a self-driving car no and you can't even cuss him out and how do you go home to your wife after that exactly it's just like you seen the tim robinson show he's so funny isn't he he's so funny but there's the one where he goes to a magic show with his wife and he the magician brings him up on stage and just like makes fun of his suit or whatever and they go home and his wife's like laying there he embarrassed you and she like they get divorced all this shit because the magician on stage made fun of his suit and just like made jokes but um yeah cut off by a self card 100 and it gets to this point to where it's like all humanity is lost and now even with social media it's like it's very thought police and we police each other yeah yeah even that into the voluntarily voluntarily is what we do and you and then now everything is heard and seen and everything so it's just like I can't tell you how many times I've been on my phone and uh thought about something and then the next time I google something it comes up I didn't even say it out loud it's just there like I was thinking like oh maybe how sick would it be to like jack off on a jet ski in my head totally and I get on google and like buy the jet ski wiki feet and then get this jet ski you know what i mean it's like fucking crazy and like how does that even work does it just know you so well that it knows what you're gonna think at this moment it's just going crazy and it's the biggest company in the world amazon yeah mom delivers for them does she experience any of that stuff i mean she said no she's nothing yeah she hadn't met anyone it's just like the roombas and shit you know what i mean they scan your whole house yeah and it is convenient but convenient's not always the best way sorry to cut you off sorry No, dude, I'm cutting you off.

1:21:23And it's like, I'm sorry to cut you off. It's okay, sir. It's okay. Thank you. Fucker. I'll go. I'll go. But it's like, yeah, it's, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what we turn into more and more as things get. You know, Bernie Sanders was just on, and he was talking about, and I loved it, too. I got to say that. Yes, sir. I loved, I was a Bernie fan. I'll say it, you know. He seems awesome. Yeah, and I don't know all, I don't know every one of his policies. Right. But I was a fan of him. He seems like a great guy to crack a beer with or just hang out with. And he comes in and he's like, and he's got his bag with him.

1:21:59And every zipper on the bag is open. And so immediately I was like, that's me. That's my guy. Every guy, work it so hard, keep going. Every zipper's open. There's Visine in one and like a couple masks in the other. He pulls a manila folder out. He looks through it. He's like, he puts that down. Looks at the cookies we got for him. Not interested. I said, I think he wanted ginger snaps. We didn't get any. It's an old-timey treat. I agree. We thought current treats are bad. Yes, sir. And he goes, I'm ready. And so we start talking, man. And it was just great. You know, he wanted health care for everybody.

1:22:35And the things he wants, it's like normal stuff. It's like you just want people to feel safe and normal. But, yeah, I just loved his authenticity. I don't know where this was going. Jesus, I'm an idiot. It's okay, Theo Vaughn. you're fine to me thanks man

1:22:55I can't believe this is a show isn't that wild isn't that wild dude we tape above my garage there are people with lots in different cities or whatever we tape above my garage I believe you said top 10 in the whole world you need to just start saying more wild shit. You think? Say the most wild thing you can into that camera right now. I'll go to jail, dude. Trust me. And just for you sitting in it, you'll go to jail, too. Fuck! And I'll say, Theo, that's bad. Yeah. He'd like to kiss his mother goodbye. I'll tell you that. We've gotten wild enough, dude. So the country tour, will there be anything different than your last tours?

1:23:44No, it'll just be tour, new music. Tour, new music, yes, sir. lots of fire I've been I went and saw George Strait and Chris Stapleton in Utah it was that was awesome Utah's so great man it's amazing my brother lives right outside of Mount Zion Park it's amazing well he's got an awesome spot there yeah we're we're like 30 minutes outside of Salt Lake and it's lovely the whole state is just stunning it's killer and there's a sense of freedom there's a sense of like I want to do what I want to do that's exactly why I went there I lived in LA for like five years. And I was like, I can't do it. Like I can't do it anymore.

1:24:20Um, it's beautiful, but the people there, and that's not even LA people. It's, you know, like people who move there and it's just always, I felt like this oppressive energy. It's always like, there's always something to do. There's always something someone wants from you. And I went and did a show and i met beautiful people in l.a oh and i've also met a lot of fucking dickheads oh yeah but i did a show in utah and i was like this place fucking rocks and so a week later we got the house and that was it and it was the best best decision i've made you know i um yeah some of my best shows that i've had recently were through idaho and utah idaho probably gets down Bro, those, dude, I didn't know if they like G-U-N-S over there, dude.

1:25:19Oh, you didn't know? I didn't know. There's nothing else to do. I was like, who likes guns? Seven people just shot in the head. Fucking single action cult. Fucking single action army. Yeah, dude. I was like, all right, cool. Noted? Yeah, man. Yeah. So that was pretty cool. So be funny. Say something funny, funny man. Oh, you tighten up quick. Your posture is fucking. Yeah. And so that was pretty amazing, man. It's going there. And it's such beautiful country out there. And I think a lot more people are like, what are we doing in these cities? What am I chasing? Yeah, man. I want to be alive. I want to feel like something important.

1:25:59Did you feel like as you got more famous that part of you like changed or disappeared? Because when did you start to get popular at? Or let's just say popular because fame is a weird word. Yeah. You know, what things happened to you? Did you notice anything? Did some of it feel bad? Yeah, man. I mean, Migos had a song called I'd Rather Be Rich Than Famous. It makes a lot of sense. It's just especially whenever you're coming like the whole music world so young, it's super easy to just be a fuck up kid, you know what I mean, and not know what the fuck is going on. And it was hard. And since then, I've moved to Utah.

1:26:47I got rid of my social media. I keep way more to myself. I don't really go out anymore. I just like, and you know, for a long time, I was very sad. And I find myself now getting back into what is fun to me and what I love doing. been a lot of riding, a lot of time in the fucking woods. I just got a really awesome piece of property where I can just sit and fish and be to myself. And I wondered for the longest time why I was so sad. And it was just because I wasn't able to do what I like to do in my current circumstance. And I think it's important for anyone who's doing anything to be able to get out and take some time for yourself.

1:27:40And for the longest time, I didn't do that. You know, it was just head down and go, go, go. But now taking this time to really just do what I like to do,

1:27:57and I have a daughter, I guess. She's cool. She's fine. So that helped. Yeah. But you really mean that, what you're saying. Yeah, absolutely, man. And I think it's important for everyone. I struggle. Like I just keep feeling like I need to do more to prove like, I don't know what I'm trying to prove things to sometimes. Yes, sir. It's like there's this constant like I've had it since I think I was a kid. Yes, sir. Like I'm not enough and I just, I don't know if it's I'm not enough. That's not the feeling. The feeling is like I need to keep, I need, what else can I do? What's the next? I just, I have like, I have to do more.

1:28:33But it's like what am I trying to appease? Am I trying? That's the thing I struggle with sometimes. Sure. And I think in the end, later on, I've realized, I think as an adult, it's just this endless feeling of like, oh, I'm not enough. I have to constantly prove myself to you. And if I proved myself to you yesterday, that's not enough. That's not enough. I have to prove myself again to you today. Yes, sir. And I think it's just this, I don't know how that magnet started that keeps pulling that energy out of me. you know you I think people have the natural inclination to want to be great you know and it's like even with music with me I can only speak on my behalf I can't speak on your world at all but whenever I make a record I'm already writing new songs like I'm like I've already done these songs I want to see what I can do next I want to see what I can make next you know what I mean And it's always like you want to create.

1:29:34And we get caught up in this kind of deal where it's just like, it's just, like I said, everything is so fucking fast. Yeah, now it is. And like you said, I proved myself to you yesterday. Why do I got to prove myself to you today? And it's nothing is certain. And we just want to be great. I think humans inherently want to be great and be accepted. And let me ask you this. What do you like to do? What do you like to do when you're not working? You know, honestly, I like to go fishing, man. Yeah. I like to talk to my brother. I like to think about my friends. I like to pray for my friends and people.

1:30:16Maybe you go be a minister, like a volunteer minister. I was thinking about signing up for the fire department. Okay, hold on. I agree you're still getting people out of fire, but a little different than volunteer ministry, okay? But pulling people out of Hades and pulling people out of a fucking, somebody fucking, somebody set off a space heater in a Hampton Inn is a little bit different, okay? But I feel you. You understand what I'm saying. 100%, brother. Praise God, baby. Yeah, one day I think I would like to end up in that or in some form of like, is there anything from my life that I can share that will help somebody not feel some of the, tough parts that I felt.

1:31:01Yes, sir. Yeah, that's it. Your heart is bigger than your hat, dude. And I can tell that from the first moment I met you, I think we met at Losers the first time. Oh, yeah. We were just hanging out out back with Earn. Earn introduced us, dude. Yep. And Earn is the glue of this city. Oh, my God. Can we go ahead and say that? He knows everybody. It's amazing. He knows everybody. And he's just a sweetheart. And he's so funny. Yeah. He's killer. And he's so talented. Yes, sir. And I hope he feels how much people love him. because they do. Absolutely. And I love that motherfucker too. More than life, brother.

1:31:32I love you, dude. I have never. He's the funniest person I've met in Nashville. He's a whip, dude. He's a whip. It's insane. He's just, he's so fast. He's fast. I can't even believe it. Like, it's kind of like hanging with John Mayer. Like, whenever you meet John Mayer, it's like everything you say, he has a one-liner in response. And it's the coolest thing you've ever heard anyone say. Erwin's very much like that. I'd like, he's just, he's going. going going oh john's magnificent dude so i went uh i met john merritt probably 17 years ago right and then uh seven years later i saw him at the comedy store and my when i met him i was working as a tour manager for an artist named josh kelly who also came out of um georgia um but anyway um he and i met john one night and seven years later i was at the comedy store and i saw john and i said hey man i met you and he goes i met you at an apartment in new york city seven years ago and he he fucking knew it's insane and i was like oh you're a wizard yeah he is he is a wizard it's crazy man and so we yeah we went saw him recently at the grateful dead and co and how was that show it was so special man it was so special my brother's a huge grateful dead fan and i love my brother so much i can't i can't i don't even have the words for how much i love my brother yes sir and um and in between the shows his assistant came out and said hey john wants to say hey to you guys so we're walking back my brother's a huge grateful ed fan like he's like bought like jerry's like replica dna off reddit and shit he's had some tough moments but he's a great guy and uh so we're and my brother's like looking at all the dressing rooms like shit you don't do like you know you're walking back you don't fucking you know my brother's like looking at like the, you know, he's looking at like the coffee tray and just, what's going on?

1:33:25You know, he sees Bob Weir's dressing room, he introduces himself to a security guard. You know, it's sweet. You know, it's cool. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, it was awesome. And then we got to go in and talk to John. And I literally just sat there while they talked about Grateful Dead. Yeah. And that moment right there was the highlight of my life. Yeah, and I can tell you love your brother, dude. Yeah. Like so much. Just base it. You sit there because to be 100 % candid with you, I could not name one Grateful Dead song. Yeah. And for you to sit there and talk about the Grateful Dead. Oh, I love it.

1:33:56That's amazing. It meant so much to me. Because I just knew. And my brother is very articulate and extremely smart, especially when it comes to child development and stuff. And I knew that in a weird way his intellect and John's would be cool, and it was just nice. But it was nice of John to welcome us. Anyway, it was a great show. I'm kind of bragging there, but that was like a cool moment. And the other day I was texting my brother, and he's like, yeah he's like hey you know john i like it was cool that john just let us have a regular conversation yeah and i was like yeah it was really he's a stud man much like earn that's i get the same kind of deal oh you do yeah i get the same kind of deal i think so um yeah he's just smart man earn is so good i mean he yeah it's crazy i i he makes me laugh i'm like how do i laugh I gotta talk to him he's a killer he's a killer did he work on a new is he on one of your new songs?

1:34:52yeah we did a song together he wrote a bunch on the record and he's just like dude he's on top of it I can't even believe it I'm honored to work with that young man and he's just a great heart it was him and Chuck

1:35:08through them I met everyone here and it's a it's a great spot right here man i just can't believe it yeah what's the time in nashville been like so it's been what five or six months you've been here yes sir yeah five or six months or maybe a little more i think did you buy a house here no sir i want one it's just so damn expensive um it's pricey it is it is for fancy house um whatever you know if you get a new spot i'll move in with you i'll move in in the garage yeah come on in i'm pretty low i need some help Yeah, exactly. No, please. I can't swing the Nashville deal. But I'm looking for spots.

1:35:46I'd like a spot out here because every time we come out here, we stay at the hotel or Airbnb, and the folks at the hotel are so sweet, and they take such great care of me. But I just need a little more room, so we started Airbnb-ing a little bit because we have the baby out and all that stuff. Then I was like, well, we'll get a spot. So we started looking and like stuff that I'm looking at, I'm like, Jesus Christ. It's spicy. It is wild. Yeah, it is wild. We looked at the same house. I remember talking. We did? Yeah. You looked at it too, huh? I looked at it on the internet. Oh, you didn't go visit?

1:36:23I didn't go. I didn't go. I went in person. I went three times. Yeah, I didn't go. It's so hard for me to get something that's fancy. You deserve it. Thanks, man. Well, all you need to do is start doing like those, you do the youth pastor stuff, but you do it like this big stadium deal. Like the guy, what's the guy's name? Carl Lentz. I don't want to be in an airplane with a bunch of demons, so I bought me a private jet. You know who I'm talking about? Bring that guy up, dude. Yeah, that dude's awesome. That dude's out of control. And our producer Ben is a devout Christian. But no judgment here.

1:36:59Let's bring this fella up, Benny. I'm not a devout believer in Kenneth Copeland. Don't say that. Okay, and he knows who we're talking about, dude. Kenneth Copeland. That's what it is. I don't want to be. God gave me an airplane. Ask you about why you don't want to fly commercial. Why have you said that you won't fly commercial? You said that it's like getting into a tube with a bunch of demons. Doesn't he look evil? He's got like the classic villain face, man. Let's do this. Chuck Schumer. Not the people. The main reason is because of the need. If I flew commercial, I'd have to stop 65 % of what I'm doing.

1:37:36That's really me. Isn't it true that you want to fly commercial so that you can fly in luxury? How much money did you pay for Tyler Perry's Gulfstream jet, for example? Well, for example, that's really none of your business, but... It's like the business of your donors. Listen. Good question. I paid. Big slap back right there. You kind of caught me off guard here. Well, fuck. That's honest. ...chance to catch your breath and have a conversation. We don't want to catch you off guard. Really? Yes, you do. Yeah, you do. Hey, you listening to me? My wife thinks Inside Edition is, oh, yeah. Yes. You might be rolling, too.

1:38:19Again, getting back to the comments. This dude told Molly. You said that you don't like to fly commercial because you don't want to get into a tube with a bunch of demons. Do you really believe that human beings are demons? No, I do not. And don't you ever say I did. It hurts. It hurts. We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but principalities and powers. Can you explain what you meant by that term then? Isn't that wild? It's wild. And what state is he from? He's not from Utah. If he's from Utah, Louisiana, we're from... Oh, he's from Newark, Texas. oh fuck and that's who you grew up yeah yeah okay you grew up in Texas I get I mean I guess he's fine I guess now he's from Lubbock no shit that's crazy that's wild hey neighbor that's wild did you yeah what were some of your what were some of the music you grew up listening to in Texas man fuck or what was the music that kind of first influenced you like for me I had a lot I mean John Michael Montgomery to see you play with him the other night so cool bro we loved listening to him um we loved listening to um clint black we love listening to garth brooks we loved listening to little wayne we loved listening to um the hot boys the hot boys yeah buddy um those are some of the musicians of like um no doubt like shit like that you know jewel everything yeah everything That's like, I remember my dad had the big-ass iPod that was like 360 gigs.

1:39:59You remember the big blocks? And I would steal it. I was like, hey, can I use your iPod tonight? And it was everything. It was like Megadeth, fucking The Blueprint, fucking Garth Brooks. My mom's side of my mind. Down in a hole. Down in a hole. The feelings I'm having. Yeah, fucking Allison. Fucking Lane Staley is a killer. Yeah. Fucking killer, dude. I'd like to fly. What is that one? I think it's the same song. But my wings have been so denied. I like that. Okay, sorry. That could be also from The Muppets. Okay, my bad. But yeah, I think, yeah. It's almost unrecognizable. No, it's just everything, man.

1:40:47It's together. Like, and I grew up in it, like, Young Thug for me is my favorite lyricist and melody maker, like, of all fucking time. Like, I remember when he, like, the first song I heard was the, it was him and Pee Wee Longway. It's a song called Loaded. And I was like, what the fuck? These melodies, like, insane. Like, he goes to such crazy fucking places that, Free Young Thug, by the way, he goes to such crazy fucking places where you, the natural mind, like, my melody mind doesn't go. He, like, I would go down one place, and he would go, like, two octaves up. And I was like, what the fuck, dude, this is mine.

1:41:33And so fun to listen to. Like, so fucking cool. And, like, a lot of it, like, growing up was, in my early teens and everything was Thug and like Rocky and George Strait, fucking Hank Senior, Allen, Megadeth, Metallica, fucking Anthrax. Just fucking everything. Oh, yeah. And even a little dubstep. Yeah. I don't listen to dubstep now, but I did. Like a little Flux Pavilion, just a pepper. Wow, bro. But, dude, there's so much fucking cool shit. going on at any and that's the problem too like i remember like soundcloud just first started and i was maybe one of the first artists to really like blow up strictly on soundcloud really i don't even know that soundcloud i think it was like 2013 soundcloud was going and i think 20, I can't, dude, I can't remember anything.

1:42:39I have such a dory brain. But, yeah. And it's so hard now, I feel like, for new artists to, because of the volume of music that's getting put out, which is a fucking amazing thing. Oh, 2007, I was way off. But that's when it started. It was really popping. Right. Things that start, that means they open their doors. Yes, sir. Probably took five years to get going. Type in when did SoundCloud really start popping.

1:43:142017. Like in 2017, look at that. Chance the Rapper, Post Malone, Odd Future. Oh, you're on that list. Yeah, see, I'm on the list out of three. There you go. Isn't that cool? Yeah, super cool, man. But yeah, it's hard now to get discovered especially. Well, it might be. It's either easier or real hard because you can do something that really just tricks the algorithm and saying like people get like viral you know super viral moments but songs don't have to be viral to be awesome and we miss out I feel like on so many like artists that never uh you know so many talented people that never never that never get the algorithm going for them but they're fucking killer and that's like the hard part is the volume of stuff and I like I'm a big advocate like the first recording software I got I think making music should be as cheap as it possibly can and you can get your ideas out like I use a free recording software I had a$200 guitar I had a$100 mic and I would sit in my room and fucking make these songs I love that concept but it's hard now because it's it like I said it's so fast and songs are viral for a couple days and then like you you don't hear much after that you know what I mean and that's right or a train comes through and takes but that's what people people are like let's make something that goes viral I just like I want people to fucking express themselves the way that it is and if you work super fucking hard and you go like I'm the luckiest dude in the world I went viral like that white iverson went viral and that was because fat man key and um he's fucking amazing but you also feel like you were sharing yourself honestly yes sir absolutely and that's like and i think there's so many artists out there that i want to do something in the future where like audacity that free recording program oh yeah it's the most amazing thing of all it's free it's free that's the only editor i know how to use it's amazing if our shit's bonk in the middle of that i'll be up on audacity it's amazing and it's free and it has been free thank you audacity i didn't even dude fuck yeah thank you audacity isn't that fucking it really was cool yeah i didn't even think about that i never even thought to thank them because yeah i'd be up in the middle of the night a podcast episode something be wrong like we got to fix it boom i'll use audacity you know um yeah i think you know i think express trying to be real to yourself what makes you fucking feel what makes you hurt or what makes you want, what makes you angry or what makes you, you know, what makes you uncertain, you know, like if you can find a feeling and, and, and attach your art to it, I think that that, I just, I don't believe that we can't see authenticity.

1:46:15Yes, sir. When we see it. Yes, sir. I don't believe that. I know there's hooks and you can get hooked on the hooks, you know, but I feel like authenticity, you can never lose by just trying, you know. You're not making it just to make it. You're making it because you love it. Right. Well, Bernie, that's one thing Bernie Sanders said. I said, well, what would you say to a young politician who wants to be, you know, someone young who wants to affect culture the same way you did in the 70s when you decided to become a politician? He said. Me? No, not you. Oh, that explains the Elvis question. You're talking about Ghost Malone, dude.

1:46:54But no, no, no. He said, I said, Bernie, if you had to say something to a young person who was the same as you in 1970 or 1968 who wanted to affect change, right? Who really wanted to have a, you know, who believed that I'm a human that can have an effect on the world, right? He said, do it because of what your purpose is, not because you want to get elected. Like you don't have to get elected anymore to serve your purpose. Yes, sir. Right. You can serve your purpose because of social media and because of the Internet these days. Just be as much as if you got elected. If you were elected. Yes, sir.

1:47:31And that was pretty interesting to me. It was like, yeah, find the new road, you know, like just like even with SoundCloud. It's like fine. Like, yeah, if you couldn't get a deal, if there wasn't a deal, somebody handing you a deal. that's like find the new road find the soundcloud go independent and it's such a cool thing to see like independent artists and fucking them doing all the shit by themselves like yeah printing the records putting it up on dsp's you know all this stuff it's so cool that's that's why like i think i was saying too i want to give like down the road whenever you know there's more time and I'm not so selfish and self-focused.

1:48:14And I got my family too, so I'm working hard for that. But it's okay. I feel you, man. It's like, yeah, you get going on your own dream and your own dream takes off. And then it's like, how quick do you feel like I need to start to turn around and figure out help? Yeah, and when can you help others? And that's like the most important thing for me is either you do it with music, help people through hard times or help them get through a tough week or whatever. but I want to make it bigger and help, you know, artists really get a fucking spot and showcase talent. Because there's so much that doesn't get, you know, like it's cool.

1:48:50I'm excited, you know, and I'm about 30 years old. I'm 29, but tomorrow, or not tomorrow, but next year I'll be 30 and I'm like, I don't have it in me anymore. You know, I'm figuring it out. I'm like, I'm like, my back hurts. You know, whenever your knees click, whenever you stand up. That's the scariest, dude. Yeah, man. Then I went to an audition one time, and they're like, all right, do the part. And I started reading, and I pointed, and you could hear it was a quiet room. Your elbow go, you hear that? You could hear my elbow click. It was like somebody loaded a shotgun. And you saw this. A chiropractor.

1:49:24There was one cute girl in the room. She immediately got her phone out. It was like, you could just tell. That was not that bad. Bro, it was bad. Everybody came. Even I, you could see in my eyes, one of my eyes was like, I'm going home. We'll just let the other one work. You know, I cocked in earlier than he did. You could see fucking my old, you could just see things change, you know. It is wild. But it is wild, yeah. But it is also wild. And also you want to get to a place in your life when it comes to like giving back where you know what you want to give back to. Like that's the craziest thing.

1:49:56It's like I've been in discussions like about a year and a half with an attorney about starting a foundation and like, well, what do you want your foundation to be? You can't just make a foundation and it's blind. like the government, you have to make it very specific. And so there's all these certain things. And so you have to figure that out. And you don't want to just be blind. You want to do something you care about, because otherwise then you're supporting something you don't even really care about. And your passion's not going to be in it. Can I 10-1? Yeah. All right, let me 10-1. You got to pee?

1:50:25Yes, sir. You can pee off the balcony if you want. That's not true. Yeah, it is, dude. Dude, I'm putting this Elmer Fudd hat on, dude. Brandless. That's bad. Hold on. I look like a referee at a freaking that's horrible too that's not horrible why are you too hard on yourself dude I'm so hard on myself why I don't know why I think man this is a great question let me think about it real quick why am I so hard on myself I think there's a constant feeling of like I think you know, I think it comes from when I was a kid. I have to be enough for you to see me. So how do I make myself enough or okay where you'll see me?

1:51:15You know? Well, I see you and you're a stud and I love you. You're a killer. Thanks. And there's so many people out there that think the same. The hat did suck though. Yeah. All right. You're amazing. Thanks, dude. Yeah. No. Yeah. I don't know why. It's just so crazy. that it doesn't get built into me, man. Thank you, dude. That's sweet of you to say. No, dude, come on. No, that's sweet of you to say, man. Yeah, it's like, I hate that. I hate that I'm always having a like, you know, after a while it gets, you know, it's like, do I look okay? Do I seem okay? Do I, like I just want to fuck it. I'm just tired of the fight, you know?

1:51:56And the fight is just against me. It's like the same thing you're saying. It's like, so, I'm not getting in, I'm not getting into self-pity mode here. I'm just looking at it. Yes, sir. I want people to know that. Sometimes we can get into self-pity. I got to be careful there. Yes, sir. I don't want to get into self-pity. But it's like, yeah, why is that? But even thinking about it like this is kind of helpful. So thanks, man. No, thank you, Theo. And dude, the shit that you do and how many lives you brighten every day just by being your fucking self and doing this show, and it helps so many people.

1:52:32It's fucking bitching, to put it mildly. Yeah. It's bitching, dude. You're such a bitching dude. Right on. You're such a bitching dude. Which seems almost a little femme, okay? Yeah. It is. That's okay. High femme. High femme. High femme. Yeah, it's high femme. Thanks, dude. You got it. Thanks, bro. Thank you, man. Yeah, I wish I could think, you know, I think it was just so hard when I was a kid. it was so hard to feel highly of myself, you know? It was like I just like... I don't know. I felt like I just wasn't worth a lot, you know? Theovan. No shade, bro. Quit it, brother. Sorry. No cap. Quit it, you son of a bitch.

1:53:14Thanks, bro. I'm not trying to be weird. No, you're not being weird. You feel like I'm not flirting with you. You don't feel like that, dude. Well, you are cute. Take the hat off. Hold on, dude. Look, I kissed your brother. This is where Theovan used to kiss his mama. No, I don't know. So, yeah, it just, I don't know. Sometimes that old shit fucking comes up, you know? No, absolutely. And I want to respect it because that's the old kid's feelings. But also, yeah, I want to let that kid know the same things you say, that, like, you know, I'm a deservant person, and that I'm a good person, and that it's okay.

1:53:46You are. Yeah. That's why I asked earlier. Like, I get the idea. I can only you know we've met times before but today I feel like take some time to do fucking Theo shit dude take that you deserve it more than more than you know I think and that's like a really fucking cool thing you are such a good person and I'm just honored to know you and you fucking kick ass you too man you kick ass dude But thanks for talking to me about that stuff. I know it's not always easy to talk about. And I didn't mean to push it on you. No, I don't feel like you did, man. It's something a lot of the listeners of this show think about a lot.

1:54:37We talk about that stuff a lot. It's like, yeah, how we feel, our relationship to ourselves, that kind of shit. It's important. It is important. And it gets overlooked. Yeah, it gets. I mean, I can't believe it's not a class in school. Like, hey, how do you feel about yourself? Like, fuck, dude. I'd have wrote 70 essays on that shit. Yeah, it's easy. Oh, that's an F? Yeah, fucking right. Yeah, right. This is, you don't know, motherfucker. Yeah. It's crazy that there's not a world of, a little bit more a world of emotional intelligence. Yes, sir. Like when we grow up. Yes, sir. Because it would help people so much.

1:55:13Absolutely. But thanks, bro. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and yeah, like, I feel, yeah, most of the time I feel great, you know. And, dude, the past few years have just been so good. It's like going through so much therapy, and I've done ayahuasca treatments, and I've been in 12-step recovery like 95 % of the last 10 years. And so all of that whole universe has been great. And you're fucking killing it, dude. Yeah, look, dude, you're here today. I made it. You got me, dude. You got me and Bernie. Yeah. Dude, could I ask for two more sweethearts? If I had a Valentine's when I was a kid, I would have picked a woman.

1:55:58But instead, I got you and Bernie and I'll take it, bro. Well, double Valentine's very progressive. Yeah. Polyamorous Valentine. Good band name, bro. Fucking good band name. It doesn't even have polyamorous Valentine's. Yeah, that's cool. Dude, do you ever, have you seen all the Halloween costumes of you? Have you ever seen them? Yes, sir. You do? A cool story about Halloween. I don't know if I've told this before. Yeah, tell it, man. We were on Bourbon Street in the Big Easy. Oh, yeah, New Orleans, man. I'm from Covington, Louisiana. So close. And I love it there, by the way. It's like the dopest place.

1:56:39But we went on Halloween. Oh, it's a great place to go missing. Oh, it's the best. We went on Halloween, and people thought I was a costume and didn't get stopped once. They were like, sick costume, dude. I'm like, thanks, man. Didn't get stopped once. I know I love this. Dude, it's so cool to see. I don't know why babies dress up as me so much. I don't know why my music is so big to the 300 demographic. Is that true? It is. Look at all these babies. Hey, pull up Post Malone babies. Oh, my God. And that one has a cigarette? bring up post malone babies dude costume i'm trying dude well see look baby oh baby costume Hey, Theo.

1:57:29Hold on. Zoom in on. It's coming around. What the fuck is this? Hold on. Bring this up, dude. This kid looks like somebody Gypsy Rose would date. What's that lady's name? Gypsy Rose. Is her name Gypsy Rose? Who's that? Yeah, that looks like somebody Gypsy Rose is probably going to leave prison for Gypsy Rose Blanchard, beautiful lady. What'd she do? From Louisiana. Well, who knows what she did? Okay. But she is okay with meeting men outside of prison. Pull back. Go to the babies. Oh, my God. Who the fuck? Pull that back up, dude. The baby would look normal. I'm not convinced those aren't prosthetic feet, though.

1:58:08Bro, no joke. I'm not going to give you a joke. And this is no shade. This looks like Travis Tritt's son. Bring up Tristan Tritt. Oh, God, dude. He's going to kill me for this, dude. Tristan, I love you and your sister and your father. Bring up Tristan Tritt. Okay. I don't see it but hold on no put it together for me right now you don't see it bro you are an artist and you don't see it I'm in kissing your mother you don't see it white boy it is what it is no that's the worst picture get him come on what do you want put it there there's 200 ,000 pictures what do you want Of Tristan Tritt, beautiful young man, Travis Tritt's son, talented musician.

1:59:01We need long hair. Just do your best real quick and put it together. I'm trying to. We'll put it together then and we'll come back to it, dude. What is that one right there? Wait, go back to that real quick, sir? Yeah, click on that. Go down. What is that third image? What is that? What does that say? Why do you draw on your eye? The concept gives me nightmares. Congratulations. Congratulations. What does that mean? I don't know. It looks very Vincent Van. That's actually on her face. That's like her eye right there. No, it is not. Wait, what happened? That's her eyelash and that's her eyebrow.

1:59:36That's Photoshop. Oh, it's a drawing. It's makeup. That's cool. That's cool. Interesting placement. Dude, I couldn't even figure that out. That's dark magic. I thought it was. Yeah, I thought it was. That's cool. Dude, that's. Yeah, that's why I'm driving to the city. That's you stepping out. Who's on the other eye? It's dark magic, huh? Who's on the other eye? Probably Dennis Rodman. Cool. The other Post Malone. Oh, it comes out of the beard. Yeah, it's your beard. All right, I get it. I understand that. What are the different Malones I've seen? I've seen Coast Malone. Have you ever seen that one?

2:00:14No, sir. Is it like a shore? It's like, yeah, CBC Coast Malone. Let's not avoid the Theo Vaughn baby Halloween costumes. That's good. That's apocalyptic almost. Coast Malone is good. Hit the one with the mountains right there on the fourth one. I don't see why not. Look, I agree, dude. It's very similar. Well, you just got to get enough land, then you could carve it yourself. Oh, Dermot Kennedy's coming on, dude. He'd love to do it, dude. He's an Irish lot. Yeah, we had Coast Malone. Who else did we have? We had... Coast Malone's classic. Coast Malone is classic. Yeah. Toast Malone. This one's good.

2:00:53Toast Malone is good. I like the fourth one yeah pull up the fourth one right now that's my favorite that is enjoying the roast Malone it's cursed that's just a white guy at a chevron

2:01:16okay pull up one more bring up what else do we have roast Malone roast Malone is good Rose Malone is good. Oh, Rose Malone is good. It's good. Imagine, it's like the Jesus on a cracker or whatever. Jesus on a toast or whatever, yeah. That'd go for some money. That's terrifying. Yeah. You don't want to cut into your Christmas ham and fucking. Most Malone is good. What's that? It's just a picture of jelly rolls.

2:01:47Sorry. And that's an old joke. and if I go to hell for that, that's on me and that's a, it's a cheap joke jelly roll and I will say that. What a low blow you cocksucker. It is a low blow. But I'll say that. It's a low blow to a high guy and I believe that I can apologize to him. He's the best. Dude, that's the most, those are the most Malones I've ever seen. That's the most Malones. That's the most Malones. Is there something when you think about your career, you've had a storied career. Sure. And thank you for it, man. Thank you for just taking us like, you feel like a concierge that takes us through different universes.

2:02:31And I appreciate that, man. That's a kind thing to say. Yeah. Well, it's important because a lot of artists, it's like their wheelhouse is, it's not limited, but it's not as multifaceted. Yes, sir. And I appreciate that because people are multifaceted. Absolutely. You know, there's a lot to people and, and, and yeah, it's just good to see that. It's good to see you share like vibrant sides, thoughtful sides, introspective sides, like angry sides, vibey sides. It's just cool to see you share the different sides, man. You know, I think that's the new wave of what a lot of people want to see about, of, of, of artists.

2:03:14Yes, sir. Because it's not that you love the music as much anymore. for me anyway, maybe. Sure. And I'm speaking for myself. Sure. You like the artist. Sure. And I think that says a lot. For me, it's the perfect marriage of those two. You know, like, I can't tell you how many times, like, I've seen someone, I'm like, that dude, well, this is a bad example. Christoph Waltz, right? One of the greatest actors of all time. Christopher Walken? Christoph Waltz. Sorry. He's German. Yeah, pull him up. You'll know him if you see him. I believe in him. Krustief. Krustief Waltz. Crazy paper airplane throw.

2:03:56I like the Google searches. Hey, people don't need to finish school to work here. Christoph Waltz. Oh, Christoph Waltz. Yeah, beautiful guy. You know him. He was in Django. He was in Inglourious Bastards. Beautiful guy. But even if he wasn't one of the best actors of all time, he seems so fucking cool. He seems like a great dude. He's got a great smile and a nice German accent kind of up here. And I would like, he's just so trill. I haven't said trill, and I don't throw that term around loosely. No one said it in a decade. Okay, he seems super trill and boss. Zomb. Oh, breaking up a bottle of trill is like breaking up a fine wine.

2:04:39Yeah, I just grabbed it. Posted us opened up a trill. He just opened up a 2010 trill. Somebody called Bieber. dude. We're having a night. Being who you are and being kind to people and just doing your best to be kind to people is the kind of vibe I get from him and the vibe I get from you. You could be shit, but you're gonna win because you are a kind person. Thanks, man. I guess that's what I'm saying. I don't know how Christoph Waltz got brought in, but I love you, Christoph Waltz. Amen. No, I'm glad he did this. what's that i love you the oh thanks bro i appreciate it i love you too man i thought i was gonna get the me too on that one i love i love cake i've enjoyed i've enjoyed listening to your music over the years i've enjoyed seeing you being like um you know i feel like when i see you sometimes you're a reflection of uh the better parts of myself and others and so um I see you and it reminds me in a smile about where I'm at.

2:05:44And I think that's a nice thing. And there's a lot of people that do that. But you are one of the people in the limelight that do that. And yeah, I've loved listening to the songs I've heard on your new album so far. The ones with Morgan, Luke Combs, Laney, Blake Shelton. Yes, sir. And I think there's only four I've listened to so far. But I'm looking forward to listening to more of them. It's out now. Fuck yeah. Yeah. There's a bonus track out now. Is there? That's what I heard. And if there isn't, we'll take that out.

2:06:20But Post Malone, thank you so much, man. Thanks for spending time with me. And thank you for spending time with humanity. I think it's important that we have people like you in the world. Well, thank you for having me on. And I'm so honored to be here. And everyone has been so kind to me. And you're the shit. And thank you. Thanks so much, bro. I love you, bro. Thank you, Thea Yvonne. I love you too, and I love you too, and just keep being yourself, keep being awesome, and don't be a dick. I love you. Have a great night. Be good to yourselves, baby gang. Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

2:06:56I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found. I can feel it in my bones. But it's gonna take