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Podcast Summary: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von - Episode E541: BigXthaPlug
Episode Overview In this episode, comedian Theo Von welcomes Dallas-based rapper BigXthaPlug, who discusses his recent rise in popularity, balancing fatherhood with his music career, and even muses about space travel. BigXthaPlug shares insights into his creative process, personal experiences, and the challenges of fame.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Introduction of BigXthaPlug
- Background: BigXthaPlug is a rapper from Dallas, Texas, promoting his new album, *Take Care*.
- Tour Details: Actively touring through the end of the year, highlighting his songs like "Texas" and "Whip It".
- Balancing Fame and Fatherhood
- Life Changes: Discusses adapting to newfound fame and the resulting adjustments in his daily life.
- Fatherhood: Shares his experiences as a father, particularly parenting a son with autism and a newborn daughter.
- Reflections on Popularity
- Fame: BigXthaPlug reflects on the benefits and challenges of being recognized in public, expressing a desire to remain grounded and connected to his roots.
- Perceptions of Wealth: Discusses how people often misjudge a rapper’s financial situation based on outward appearances.
- Creative Process
- Music Production: Collaborates with producers who understand his artistic vision, leading to a unique sound that often starts with an atmospheric introduction.
- Musical Identity: His songs often reflect personal experiences and emotions rather than following commercial trends.
- Perspectives on Life and Future Aspirations
- Space Travel: Engages in light-hearted speculation about potential future space travel and the uniqueness of writing music in space.
- Mentorship: Considers his son a primary source of inspiration and motivation in his life.
- Personal Anecdotes
- Early Jobs: Shares stories from his first job at Taco Cabana and his drive to become self-sufficient and entrepreneurial.
- Experiences in Jail: Relates humorous yet poignant tales from his time in jail, touching on themes of survival and resilience.
- The Importance of Authenticity
- Genuine Connections: Emphasizes the significance of authenticity in building relationships with fans and in artistic expression.
- Independence in the Industry: Discusses the advantages and challenges of being an independent artist.
Key Takeaways
- Family and Career Balance: Successful artists can still maintain personal connections and responsibilities.
- Authenticity Matters: Staying true to oneself and one's experiences resonates deeply with audiences.
- Continuous Growth: The journey of self-improvement and dedication to one's craft is crucial, regardless of background or past struggles.
Conclusion The episode encapsulates BigXthaPlug's journey as both an artist and a father, showcasing how personal experiences shape creativity. Theo Von's light-hearted and inquisitive nature allows for a candid conversation that highlights the importance of authenticity, ambition, and staying connected to one's roots.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I have some tour dates upcoming to tell you about. Bloomington, Indiana, November 13th, Columbus, Ohio, Champaign, Illinois, over there in Illinois, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Lafayette, Louisiana, and Beaumont, Texas. There are some tickets still available, theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. Make sure to go through that link so you're getting fair priced tickets. Today's guest is a rapper out of Dallas, Texas. He has his new album, Take Care, which he's on tour with right now. He has hit songs, Texas, Whip It, and others. We're grateful for his time. Today's guest is Big X, The Plug.
0:55I'm on this.
1:04Where'd you just come from? From touring? I'm going to move this down and you're in touch. Where did we just come from? Louisville, Kentucky. Oh, yeah. Yes, sir. How was that? All right? Yeah, it was good. It was good. I mean, I didn't think, was it sold out? No. It was packed. 95%. Yeah, it was crazy though. They got a lot of horses up there too. I've been to the horse track up there. Yeah, I was just going to say, don't they do like derbies and stuff? Yeah. It's nice. Some of the horses are strong. Some of them aren't that strong. What else has been going on? Yeah, I was just up in Montana. We had some shows up there.
1:45I met some Native Americans up there. Okay. You ever met any Native Americans? Like a real life one? I don't think so. I don't think so. We met a couple up there. They're pretty cool, man. We was up at, we were at AutoZone up there, and they had a couple Native Americans up there, and we met them. And, yeah, they're just wild. And they have a lot of good weed, too, a lot of times. Oh, okay. Then, yeah, I probably would have bumped into a few if I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I heard it's beautiful out there. Shibuza, that's one of my close friends. He was just out there shooting video. He was like, bro, I'm finna move out here.
2:20It's crazy out here. I gotta make sure I stop by there for sure. Yeah, it looks like you're on this planet, but on the best parts of it. You look out there, and they got all kind of exotic animals, too, out there. That's why I think, yeah. Yeah, Native Americans have the best weed. I've always heard that. I've never gotten a smoke in them with them. They got that shit that'll bring your dead relatives back. They got that real. They got that soothsayer gas on me. Do I want to smoke that? Good point. If they bring your relatives back, do you want to smoke that? That's true. I mean, I guess if you owe somebody some money, maybe you just let them be where they're at.
2:56Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And they had the best pets, too. Think about it. Native Americans had the best pets, man. Falcon. Buffalo. Eagles. I'm scared of all that type of stuff. Really? I'm scared of any animal that's, for one, bigger than me. So like horses, cows, I'm terrified of them. Yeah, that makes sense. And then just eagles and all that stuff, like you can't really do nothing about those. So if they fly down and grab you and rip skin off, you can't do nothing to them. So yeah, nah. I don't do bugs. I don't do exotic lizards. I don't do snakes. I don't. Really? I could see you with a nice bird, man.
3:36With a bird? Yeah. I do have a bird. My daughter's name. Her nickname is Bird. Oh, yeah? That's as good as it gets. I was terrified right there. oh wow yeah i was terrible you how far away i am from north oh it is yeah you had to keep you kept your distance wow did you even face time with that thing first or they just brought him straight up they just they just brought it oh they just brought it yeah that kind of stuff is a lot man horses make me nervous too they're just so big and you don't trust them you know exactly and i don't trust anything that only can see out of the side of its head that too that too you know that's how i really feel about a lot of animals but did you ever have any pets growing up?
4:12Yeah, a lot of dogs. Oh, yeah? What kind of y 'all have? Rod Waller's. Right now I have a Cancorso. I have two pocket bullies. I have a Frenchie. But just, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that actually looks just like my dog Sasha that's at the house right now with the white patches and everything. And does y 'all have a chain on it? No, no. She's horrible. She's bad. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you even pet her or nothing? Yeah, no, you can pet her or whatnot, but she just, if she don't know you, she's going to go crazy. Oh, God. But once she's smearing you and she's good, then you locked in. I wouldn't even risk it.
4:48See, I get scared getting high around dangerous animals. That's one of my big things. You know, I would have sometimes trouble smoking with the brothers when I was young because a lot of them would bring a dog with them. And if we got high, it just made me too nervous. Man, I had to get out of my own car and leave everybody in there one time because I couldn't handle it. Well, you might want to stay away from that weed in Montana. yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll stay off that native stuff man um thank you so much for joining us bro for sure it's a blessing to be here yeah congratulations on all your success man it's exciting yeah i love listening to your your songs like the but they all have this beginning that kind of creates this like it almost feels like it's a start of a movie it's like before like you come in with um the lyrics it's like there's this Each one has like this ambiance That gets going Who makes that?
5:42How do y 'all make that choice? Like how does that happen? But I just I've been with the same Producers for about Two, three years now Bandplay Tony Coase And so we kind of just Know each other's Like souls at this point And so They just You know they go based off Of what they feel like I would mess with in a song And then they Go from there Tony pick out the sample Man played through the 808s, all the beatings on it, and it just goes. They know I like the – I'm a build-up person. So that beginning, that's my build-up. Yeah, it almost feels kind of romantic in the beginning. I'm not for shit. It gets you in the mood, gets you ready, and make you want to hear what I'm about to say.
6:23The video with the skydiving, did y 'all really skydive in it? No, I would never skydive in my life. Really? Oh, you'd go down quick. Skydive, bungee jump. I'm one of those people who believe in like I just feel like I would have a heart attack before I got you know I would faint or something so now I can't pull my string so I'd just rather not do it I'd just rather not do it yeah yeah yeah I don't know why some people do it I wonder if they have a lot of yeah the video that was so tough man how did y 'all shoot it though did you guys have like a fake chopper or something? a fake plane a lot of air and great acting Anybody want me in the movie?
7:03There you go Yeah, you could be in like a paratrooper movie, man For sure And it don't look like I fell that fast It actually looks like I fell at a At a decent rate There it go, there it went I would drop fast right then It did seem like you were Because I was kind of When I was watching that Because usually people are really flying You see their cheeks going like that And I was like, man It seemed like he's kind of going at a casual speed But that's when you know you got When you got a vibe, bro When you can skydive at a casual speed Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you can do it your own way. Yeah. What's happening in Texas, man?
7:38Still hot.
7:42How has your life changed over there? Like, even in the past two years, probably. I mean, for me, it hasn't really changed. I still do the same daily stuff I would do if I was home. But, of course, everybody knows me now. So now instead of going to Walmart, I now have to do curbside pickups. Now, you know, it's just stuff like that. But as far as me and my home and my family, ain't nothing really changed. We still everybody kicking when we can. You know, if not, I'm at home with my kids chilling. You know, nothing too major. I don't – I'm as basic as it gets. I don't, you know, treat myself like a superstar or nothing like that.
8:20Does it feel overwhelming sometimes with people knowing you as much? is it sometimes a little bit like what is it like does it feel kind of like alarming sometimes does it feel like what you thought it would feel like because it's a lot of people don't get to become get to have that much popularity right it just so it's interesting when it does happen to somebody because it's just a rare thing yeah right i mean i mean as far as like i was popular in school but then it's like after that era faded out i started doing stuff that it's like you kind of I don't want people to know who you are. And now I got to let people get this close to me before I know if they're friend or foe.
9:00So, of course, it bothers me, but, I mean, it comes with the job. Yeah. I just got to keep big guys like him around me. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good choice there. And, yeah, is it more dangerous? Because I think, like, it's funny. Sometimes if you're just like a regular guy, nobody will try to shoot you. But then when you're a rapper, people try to shoot you. Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's just a lot of, you know, just like it's God in the world, it's the devil. You know, it's the devil too. You know, the paths that some people decide to take, it's not always the right one. So, you know, you just got to kind of be prepared for it.
9:41Yeah, you're a target because everybody feel like you got all this money, all of this. when people don't even know. So a lot of these major artists, all they have is that chain and that watch. They don't got no money. So you just did what you did for a chain and a watch. Me, I try to treat everybody as equal. So when a person walk up on me, I'm going to give you that picture. I'm going to talk to you as if you're a normal person because that's what makes somebody want to get you. When you, nah, I'm good. That's what, when you show them that separation, that's when they want what you got. When you're too fancy, yeah.
10:14Exactly, exactly. Yeah. For rappers, it just feels a little bit more dangerous, I feel like. Do you have to keep an EMT? People know CPR on your team and stuff like that? What is it like? I ain't gonna lie, fellas. If we get to that point, don't y 'all put y 'all lips on me. Don't y 'all put y 'all lips on me. Y 'all find the nearest woman and y 'all teach her how to do it, but don't y 'all put y 'all lips on me. You're going to have some girl sitting there watching a YouTube video. Yeah, yeah. No, I can't go through that. Bro, you ain't going to feel it, bro. You're going to be just. But when I come to, that's a question you got to ask.
10:55When you come to and you say, what happened? There's going to be that guy that's in the back of the room like, you know. And I don't want to deal with that. Yeah, that's true. You're going to have to look him in the eye. You have to. You don't know whether to say thank you or let's fight. Hey, chill, bro. Exactly, exactly. Hey, next time, ask first. And then my partner's so funny that they ain't going to do nothing. I'm going to make a joke about it. I almost died, and y 'all talking about some, but y 'all kids know who. Y 'all kids, you know, so. You alive, but you a little zesty now. Just find the nearest woman.
11:29Find the nearest woman for me. I don't care how old she is. Just find the nearest woman, please. Yeah, that's what I just wonder. I think I would keep, if I was in the rapper, I would have somebody bow and arrow, somebody with a couple choppers on them, everything. Dracos, everything. Guns. Fucking Ninja things. Magic metal, fucking ninja stars, all of that shit. You just pray for the best. Axe. I would have everything, bro. I'd have somebody just walking around look like they were in one of those video games where they have all the weapons behind them like that. Like when they get ready to go to war, they pack all of the weapons but then they don't use none of them.
12:11Yeah, I know. Even cops now, they got so many things on them. They got a taser. They got a gun. They got a sling shot. They got a pepper spray. They got a fucking, you know, a thing of marbles. They got all kind of shit on them, bro. You'll see they got a. I've never seen an officer with a bag of marbles. But they got so many things now, bro. He got a camera. They got a little spatula. You know, a thing of just breath mints. Dude, he's just shooting Mentos at people. You know, they got. I couldn't even imagine running around with all that stuff on me now. Yeah, no, yeah, they do. They got to chase people there.
12:47Yeah, that's crazy. On top of the vets. That's how they have. Yeah, they're built like a 7-Eleven, and they got to run around and chase everybody down. It's too much. Everybody would get away from me if I was the police. I'll catch you eventually. Hey, I'll catch you in the future. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, let me see you again. Because I wouldn't, you know. Did you, what was like a first job that you had, man? My first ever job was Taco Cabema. I was 16. I was getting paid$7. I was supposed to get paid$7.25. But when I started working, my first day, he said, $7.25? No, you're too good of a worker.
13:20I pay you$7.50. Really? And I just thought I was that guy. $7.50? Woo! That was my first ever check. My first check was like$200, two weeks work. Bro, when you got that first check, it was nice, huh? No, I was so upset. It was like$200,$300. Oh. Two weeks of work. Yeah, I was so mad. But I kept going. I kept going. And how long were you in over there at the cabana? Maybe like a month, maybe a month and a half. Damn, you didn't keep going at all, man. I've never had a job over four or five months. Really? What was it about it, you think? Did y 'all have some, like, was it contractual issues? What was the deal over there?
13:59As bad as it sounds, it's just something about somebody telling me what to do. You know what I'm saying? especially in that aspect, it's like, you're not even the big dog. You work for them just like I work for them, and you sitting here telling me what to do. Exactly. I just always felt like, I watched my mom and my pops growing up, they were entrepreneurs, so they was their own bosses. And here I am working at Taco Bell and getting paid$750, when I would rather be my own boss. So I think that's probably, me having that first job is probably what made me start wanting to do stuff to just be my own entity, my own boss, because that was horrible.
14:41Having somebody telling you when to come in, telling you what to do at the job, I just couldn't do it. Yeah. Couldn't do it. And was any of the food pretty good, or was it like? Yeah, yeah, they used to have this little, I don't even know what the bowl was called, but it's like a bowl shell. Like it's a bowl, but the bowl is a shell. and inside of that you got like your meats, your guacamole, your rice, beans. I like all of that. You can just crush the bowl. Exactly. Hey, whoever's doing that is doing a great job. Oh, we about to pay that dude$7.50 an hour, I'll tell you that. We keeping him. Get a new job.
15:20Get a new job. God, that does look good. That's like a little magic hat or something filled with a down. A little Thanksgiving and a little Mexican Thanksgiving in there. That was my Every time I would leave work, that's what I was taking with me. Yeah. Cabana bone. And what y 'all had dessert choices up there, too? Sopapillas. Oh, yeah. Sopapillas. God, bro. With ice cream with them? Not ice cream, but like it's some little icing at the head. I love those. Yeah, sopapillas. That was my first time ever having a sopapilla was at that job. My favorite thing to make there. Yeah? You just got to drop it in some grease, come out.
15:54Like the little perfect little square thing, dip it in the sauce, you're good. Oh, yeah. And y 'all could smoke on a job? Was that allowed or not? No. I was a football player at that time, so I wasn't really just smoking. I was on the old, some old other stuff. See, whenever I had jobs, it's when I was kind of like on a different path. Whenever I didn't have a job, it was a different path. I was trying to be my own boss at that time. You said one of your folks, they had their own business. What was their business they had? I mean, it wasn't nothing that you could write off on your taxes. You could do taxes or whatnot.
16:36Yeah, yeah. And they paid the bills. They got the bills paid. Nobody fill out a W-9. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But the bills was paid. It was closed on my back. And there was a roof over my head. So I can't complain about it. Yeah, not at all, man. Are your parents still married or no? No. They just broke up before I even came out the womb. Oh, wow. But, you know, they're still good friends. They both helped take care of me. Made me the man I am today. So, I mean, it worked out for me. When you had, because you have how many children? You said you have one daughter? Yeah, I have a newborn little girl.
17:15She's about to be eight months. And I got a little boy. He's about to be six. Nice. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I think I saw one of your videos maybe. Yeah, my little boy. Oh, that's cool. That's my daughter right there. Is he cool? Yeah. Yeah? What does he like to do? Cause havoc. So my little boy got autism. So he's just real. He's him. You know? He's the one. He'll sit here and be quiet one moment. And the next moment, he trying to take something from you and run around with it. He just, he a character, man. He's his own entity within himself. He a quarter. Oh, he's a handsome guy. Just like his daddy.
17:50Yeah. what uh if he has so autism does he have like um is it almost really interesting having a child with autism because it almost seems like it's more of a complex relationship so they're actually actually some of the smartest kids in the world smartest people in the world oh yeah elon musk had all those guys out of autism the guys that are making all the machinery now so you gotta have autism even get a damn job at somebody's joint but so so like with him it's just it's more It's more like of his speech. I could tell him, turn on the TV, I could ask him what you wanna watch, he could point it out, it's just his speech.
18:24His words are not all the way to you. But if you tell him, I love you, he'll say, I love you. He can repeat anything you say, whether it's good or bad, he can repeat it. It's just like he can't put it all together himself. You know what I'm saying? But he's as normal as could be, he's smart as I don't know what. Any kid that knows how to jump a fence, you see what I'm saying, to go get in the pool, that knows how to say, I want to go to dad's house. And then when he gets to dad's house, say, pool. Like, I only came here for the pool. That's the only reason I came. He knows how to get in. I done had to put thumbprint codes on my pantries because when he was with his mom, he eats like a lot of organic foods.
19:05And, you know, when he come to dad's house, you got the good snacks. So now he know how to get in my pantry and climb up. Yeah, he, Carter is a character, but that's my dog, man. That's my dog. Were you scared about having children when you were going to have them? Because I would like to have children. I don't have any yet, but I would like to have some. But sometimes I'm like, man, is it just going to be such a big change? I mean, you got to leave a legacy. I grew up in big families. So on my dad's side, whenever we did Christmas together, everybody was spending the night at Grandma's house.
19:39My granny got, I got what? One, two, three. my granny got five kids, my dad got six kids. You know what I'm saying? So that's just big over there on my mom's side. Everybody just got kids. So I just grew up in a big family so I knew I always wanted a big family. I didn't think I was gonna start as early as I did but I really feel like I'm doing better because my mom and my dad, they was, my mom was 15, my dad, you see what I'm saying? Wow, yeah, a lot of, we had in our town A lot of the young, a lot of the sisters, they got a little bit pregnant. Early. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You didn't even, we didn't even know.
20:19We thought a lot of them just got kind of thick or whatever. Like one summer or whatever. And then we were like, damn, everybody's thick all of a sudden. Yeah, everybody got that baby. Yeah. And everybody had it. Then they all had a baby. Yeah. They had a lot of them babies in our area. Yeah. I think that would be the wild thing. So were you already rapping when you had your son? No. Wow. So was it kind of nervous, like, how I'm going to take care of him, or it wasn't like it was? Yeah, I was sleeping. I was at my granny house sleeping on the couch. I had just got a job at UPS. Oh, yeah. They got good benefits over there.
20:57No, man, not unless you're a manager or, like, something to that sort. Or you got to work there a certain amount of time. It's not good. It's not good. But Yeah I had just I was staying in Austin Texas Whenever I went to school Got kicked out of school I went to stay in Austin Texas With the mother of Carter And I went to jail Got out Where she was staying at I was I wasn't supposed to go to No more Like Oh yeah Restraining order I had a restraining order From the The apartment complex Cause what I had did Was in the apartment complex Okay So when I got out We did what we did The one last time I left to go back to Dallas.
21:37She caught me three months later telling me that she was pregnant. Wow. I said, I'm sleep on the couch in my granny house. And I'm, all I could tell was, all right, bitch, I'm finna move you out here. I'm on somebody's couch right now. You can come sleep on this couch with me, but I'ma get this right. Yeah. She came, I think she slept on the couch with me maybe two, three weeks. Damn. And then I had this apartment. There wasn't no furniture. Them first week or two we slept on the - Oh, it's still on each other lap. What? On a pallet on the floor. I'll be the chair You'll be the chair Take turns Exactly But we made it work Wow That's wild man That takes some commitment Yeah that's why She's forever taken care of We're not even together now She got She got everything She can think of You know what I'm saying Times 10 You have a lot of respect For her it sounds like For sure If it wasn't for her I probably wouldn't be here Yeah That's just me being honest What did you go to jail Did you say you went to jail What did you go to jail for So Well, how about this?
22:34What were the holidays like in jail?
22:39What holiday did I spend in jail? Did I spend the holidays? I think I spent, no, I did. I spent Thanksgiving in jail. Oh, yeah. What's it like? Do people get up early? Is there anything special like on that? You know what? I think about it, though. I was in solitary confinement, though, for that Thanksgiving. So, boom. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was. Yeah, I was. So, it was just a bunch of screaming from door to door. Would you just hear people's voices? Do people at least sing like a... I mean, you got... There's people that sit there that's actually crazy. You know what I'm saying? So they actually do scream and do all that stuff.
23:14But they scream anything special because it's Thanksgiving? That's what I'm wondering, I guess. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was screaming something special on the day I got out. It was a Tuesday. The day I was supposed to go to court, it was a Tuesday. Yeah. So when I woke up to take my shower, I was singing. Tuesday, Tuesday. Tuesday, yeah. Like, if you ever seen Norby, he was in the shower knowing that he had to go to the water park with the old girl on a Tuesday. That's exactly how it was. Everybody that was in that room was just dying laughing. It's a happy day, dude. Yeah, it was a happy day.
23:44Wow. So, yeah, Thanksgiving. What about Halloween? Were you in there? Nah. Nah, Halloween I was out. Thanksgiving, yeah. So do y 'all get a special meal or, like, is there any? I mean, yeah, they give you a little scoop of dressing and that, but it's just not the same. Do y 'all go around the table and say what you're thankful for or anything like that? Nah, I doubt that's how it went. You see, there you go. Aw, who are those guys? I don't know them. Oh. I don't know them. Yeah, I guess it wouldn't be the best. Like, really, holidays in jail, I feel like they're not really celebrated because that's the time where everybody wishes they was with their family.
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24:28You know what I'm saying? So that's when everybody, it's kind of intense because everybody is upset. Everybody want to be with their kids, their moms, their, you know what I'm saying? So everybody just kind of try to get through the day. Yeah, that's a good point. I've never thought about that. You kind of almost pretend like it's not that day. Exactly. Did they have like a lot of gay activity in jail? Did you see any of it? Or you hear about it sometimes on the internet? There was one gay experience for me in jail. And there was an older dude that had, he was in there from stealing a bunch of wood from Home Depot.
24:58Damn, probably gonna build him a little gay hut. I don't know, but he had been in there. A little sass shack. He had been in there, I don't think nobody knew that he was like that or whatever, but you could tell he had been there a lot. He done went to jail a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah. And there was a guy that came in there that was a dentist, but he was a member of the LGBTQ community. Okay. And he came in with nothing, like he was from, this was right when. He was a dentist? Yeah, but he was an illegal dentist. You see what I'm saying? So he knew how to do teeth, but he didn't have— He didn't have a storefront.
25:33Or the paperwork or anything. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. He just knew how to do— But he was from Mexico. This is when they were— This is when the whole ICE situation was going on, and they were catching a bunch of the illegals and sending them back. And so my pal was a bunch of illegals, and he was one of the illegals, but he just happened to be a part of the LGBT— You know what I'm saying? Right, he was a gay gentleman, but he also did dental? He did dental. And he would do dental in the? No, no, no. That's how he got arrested. When he got pulled over, he had a bunch of dentist equipment and dentist stuff in his trunk.
26:07And there was no license. Wow. Yeah, so that's what got him. But then on top of that, like I said, he was illegal. Yeah. But yeah, he didn't have nothing. And the old school, he had some stuff. and so he just basically took care of him and he had to take care of him so it was just kind of like a prison kind of a love story almost exactly and we weren't even in prison we was just in jail with that yeah that kind of that messed me up though yeah that messed me up yes or not but even then at least you get to see somebody having some romance i guess it's almost i didn't see anything yeah or you get to or i guess it's yeah i don't know i didn't see anything i just you know But you start to put two and two together.
26:52But I bet some people get a little bit envious of, like, at least he got somebody, you know? I mean, hey, I don't know. I didn't think that way. Yeah. Me neither, dude. But that's love is love, though. Yeah. If people are in for a long time. I could see how if somebody's in for a long time and they're not going to get out, they say, I'm just going to have to figure this out over here. and call. I mean, if you're in jail, if you're in prison for the rest of your life. No, I can't even say that because of that insinuation, if I was to ever go to prison for the rest of my life. I don't know. We're here now.
27:31Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. Wow, man. Yeah, I guess I wonder what the holidays are like in there and stuff like that. But is there anything that you missed? Wait, what's the difference between jail and prison? I've never been to prison So I can't really tell you how How bad prison get but from What I've heard It's just I mean you gotta See jail You possibly going home you know what I'm saying Like you can go home Prison you know you're there for a little bit So that's when It's more hostile it's more Gangs it's more You know what I'm saying that's where that stuff takes a Play in like the Gang wars and then the racial stuff, that stuff is real in prison.
28:14I hate all that. Some people say that the feds is better than prison just because after strength it's for one, I guess a lot more people with money there. So, and there's just a lot more stuff there like tablets. You know what I'm saying? Well, I mean, everybody got tablets now. Even in prison, they got tablets. Yeah, but it's just, you know what I'm saying, for a while. Swings, recess type shit, outdoor stuff. I don't know. I've never been to prison. I've never been to the feds. I don't know. I'm just going off of what I've been told. But I know So if jail's sucked, prison got to be worse. Yeah.
28:45And the feds got to be worse than that. Damn. You know, so it's just like, but if I ever go down and do some time, I'd rather go to the feds. Because they just look like they're not free, but they're freer. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? A little more relaxed. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I don't know if I'm going to ever go to prison or not. I mean, you know, overall, I would probably, I would hope I didn't. Yeah. But don't fucking try me. Yeah, no, for sure. For sure. So that's how I think about some of that. They say first impressions are important. What about lasting impressions? That's where Blue Chew comes in.
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32:23And on top of that, when I got out, I just couldn't do what I was doing no more. Like, all the street activity I was doing, I had made a promise to my son that, like, you'll never not see your dad again. I'll never miss another birthday. I'll never miss another anything, even though I kind of tell the story, because here I am here, and he's in Texas. You know what I'm saying? But this is me doing what I got to do to benefit him. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, yeah. So I got out, made the promises to him, and so I just had to figure it out. He's not my artist, but he also my cousin, and was just a good friend at the time.
32:58He just was like, he'd been rapping since he was nine years old. He's your real cousin? Yeah. And so he had been telling me forever, you need to rap, you need to rap, because we would do little freestyle sessions and whatnot, and I would freestyle, and it would be a group of us, but he would just look at me and be like, bro, you need to rap for real. But I'm like, bro, you been rapping since nine years old and you ain't blew up yet. Why would I do that? Yeah, I'm not going to listen to you. Exactly. But whenever I got out and I just really didn't have nothing else, you know what I'm saying? Like what I was saying, I was really trying to live up to that promise that I made to my son.
33:31So whenever he was like rap, I was like, all right, babe. And I tried it, did maybe like three songs. I liked the feedback I got from, you know what I'm saying, just from our friend group, and it went past that to just people that we knew from school, then it went from that to people that we didn't know. And so I was just like, okay, just doing something. So you just gave it to friends first? Was it even like close friends, or did you have enough confidence you're like, all right, I'm going to put this, I'm going to? I mean, of course, I just, I didn't even know how to drop music. Gro told me Distro Kit, so I just went through Distro Kit.
34:07But like I said, when I was dropping them, I was just telling my immediate friend group. But then when I started noticing that I was getting tags and stuff from people that I didn't know. That's wild, huh? Yeah, I was like, okay, it's doing a little something. It's doing a little something. Then just to walk around my own city and everybody know me. I go in any club, everybody knew me. I was like, all right, this is really happening. That's crazy. Yeah, then I got my first deal in like six months, my first distribution deal. It was under six months. So once that happened, I just went from there.
34:42I just, I seen I had made a little bag off of it. Because I done touched a lot of money in my life, but I ain't never touched nothing. Like, I've never had$100 ,000 sitting in my hand at one point in time. Yeah. And when I did that distribution deal, I had that. And so I was like, me doing something non-illegal, I just touched$100 ,000 at one time. You must have been like, dang, this is it. Yeah. And then, like, three months later, I was broke. Would you be in a water slot or something? No, I just was, you know Doing for everybody Everybody buy some wild shit When they get a little bit of money Nah, they'll tell you I didn't have no big chains I didn't even want no chains To this day, I wouldn't have this chain If they wouldn't tell me Bro, you got an image that you got to uphold You the biggest rapper in Texas You can't But I don't I never cared about none of that at first I kind of got addicted after I start Paying for it Oh, yeah You get some nice carpet or whatever You get a rug Nice table, you start buying all kind of shit.
35:40Lamps, silverware with your name on it. Yeah, yeah, so with my name on it, it's crazy. But no, yeah, so I had the smallest chains. I just was doing for people around me. I go in the mall, I couldn't even find nothing for me to wear in the mall. I would go to the mall to buy shoes and just tell my friends, hey, y 'all get whatever y 'all want. You know what I'm saying? Like my mama, anytime she would ask for anything, giving it to her, my pops, anything, I was just doing it, you know what I'm saying? And then I looked up one day and I was down to like$25 ,000. I was like, oh, shit. It goes fast, too.
36:15And you got to pay taxes. You don't even think about that. And I didn't think about none of that. I didn't think about none of that. And so I just had to, I really just put my foot down and grind it. And I got it all back. And then next thing I know, that 100 went to, we went crazy after that. So I'm independent. So all my money come to me. Hell yeah. We did good. Yeah, that's the same. We work for ourselves here, too. It's inspiring. I see a lot of guys out there like that. Lil Russell, you ever see him? Yeah, he go crazy. Bro, his bars are good, man. And he's so inspirational. He's got this whole thing, man.
36:50He does half the shit in his backyard. He's sewing half the sweaters himself that he's slinging, man. He puts it together. He's really inspiring. I like watching him. Did you see that Trump thing that happened with the guy? What? Made the joke yesterday. I have not been in a debate situation at all, actually. Well, this is a comedian. They just had him in yesterday. This is Tony Hinchcliffe. He's a friend of mine, and he just said they put him up at Madison Square Gardens last night in New York City. They put him up to speak, and then this was a joke that he told us. It's just everybody's going crazy about it today.
37:23I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah. I think it's called Puerto Rico. Oh, man. okay so that's the jokey toll right at like a madison square garden rally i guess so people are up in arms about it because a lot of people are puerto rican in new york yeah yeah that was that was you know a very crazy statement yeah that just seems yeah that seemed like a unique choice to me but i don't know i've made some poor choices but i haven't made that when that's i think we've all made a poor choice oh yeah once before i made a ton do you guys do Do you feel like Texas rocks with Trump or do you feel like, are you a political guy?
38:06I'm not a political guy, I just, listen, I keep my head down, I make the money that I can make how I can make it. As long as I keep taking care of my kids, I don't care about what, you know, everything. Hey, we gotta go to war, we gotta go to war, we don't, we don't. You just gotta be ready for whatever comes. Yeah, you be a paratrooper, dude, looking at that video of yours, we'll send you in. And I feel like I'm to the point now Well, they wouldn't even ask me. You know? Like, if the world was to end, you know how, like, in all the world, in the movies, there's always, like, those two ships or two boats, I think I made it to get on one of those now.
38:45Like, I'm on the list. Right, they're gonna keep you. Exactly, like, plus two. Yeah. So. And you have to bring your children, probably. Yeah, obviously. Obviously. Or do I bring two women? Ooh. So I can repopulate. Start more children. Yeah. One kid, one woman. And the other kid. Nah, nah, nah. I got to take both my kids. I got to take both my kids. That's the best answer to end on, I think, for that. Yeah, people bet on it now. Two people betting on the election. They have, you ever seen this or this? Because a lot of it is, it's like, well, where's people's money at? Because that's where they're really, that's where you follow the money everywhere.
39:26that's where you really learn things I find and they have Calci this is a website where people bet on the election and it's yeah Trump's at 62 % now there and Kamala is at 38 % what else do they have on there Trevon if you can bring something up oh how many number one songs this year on Billboard but you can bet on all types of stuff Grammy nominations for album of the year who's that Cowboy Carter uh casey has 93 percent casey musgraves chris stapleton will uh big x win a grammy right you could bet on that you could bet on anything you know and they probably have some of it on there but what is he at right now what's it at right now go back oh it's trump 62 percent and the money that's been bet 86 million dollars that's crazy that's crazy bro that is so crazy um like as your life has kind of taken some new turns you've had new opportunities have you have there been any new mentors that have come into your life or like people that you start to see like this person i feel something that they're doing is interesting or i could learn from it yeah and then you kind of have created relationships with yet uh i keep my head down i mean i just recently did a interview with the Mean Dogs Worth of Game, Wallow and Gilly.
40:53Yeah, I saw some of it. I don't really... I don't know. I'm not a big industry person, man. I'm not going to lie to you. I keep relationships that are meant to be kept. I'm not going to overextend myself. It's got to be genuine. A lot of this stuff is not genuine. I just kind of stated myself I don't know. I feel like if anything, my biggest mentor is my son. You know what I'm saying? Just because I feel like you go through everything you're going through and you still get up and you smile every day. Even though you might not know what's going on, you get up and smile every day not even knowing.
41:33You know what I'm saying? So I have to say him. Everybody else, I feel like, I don't know. I did everything that I've done to get here, I feel like I do it on my own. like yeah you don't need I guess an industry you don't yeah maybe you're your own mentor that's interesting your son could be your mentor in a way because it really is a mentor is just kind of a source of inspiration kind of no for sure because there's days I don't want to get up and I don't want to do none of this you know what I'm saying but if my son can get up every day and go to school and had a biggest smile on his face and have good days why can I not you know so do you um you ever listen to Jelly Roll you ever met Jelly Roll man I've never met him but I've heard that he loves me man I love Jelly Roll y 'all would make us sick y 'all could put something together I don't know if you do that kind of stuff you have some collabs right yeah bro he's one of the most genuine dudes I'm actually I'm supposed to be doing a country tape next and he's supposed to be on it yeah who else would be on it you think Shaboozy maybe Shaboozy for sure that's my dog I think I got an unread text from him right now on my phone I just texted what's he like I got to sit near him at a, we went to a women's basketball game.
42:45Don't tell anybody. But we went. But it was the Las Vegas Aces. Wait, he's 29? I had no idea Shabuzi was 29. You're old, buddy. You're old. You're old. I thought he was my age. Shabuzi, 29. He a damn adult. I didn't know he was a Taurus, though. His birthday two days before mine. Oh, he's a damn Taurus as well. Yeah. Wow. But no, he's, like I told you, it's not a lot of genuine stuff in this industry. And he, him and Ellie Chopper, it's just, as far as rappers, that's really, you know, just it. But like, they the most genuine guys. I mean, they, I can call him Ellie Chopper right now. He just called me the other day and thanked me because whenever he was going, whenever he transitioned to that, if I was a bad, like, he was on the way to go to Rolling Loud because the first time he performed it was at the Rolling Loud.
43:42I had just left Rolling Loud, so we had the same hotel. We had already done a song before then, but we was chopping it up, and in the back you could hear the song playing. He had somebody in the back specifically holding a speaker to play that song. And a lot of people just didn't really understand what he had going, they didn't see where it, I didn't even see the vision. He's set. But I just knew, you know what I'm saying, at the end of the day, as long as you're comfortable with doing what you're doing, and you know your reasons behind doing what you're doing and why not do it? You're young.
44:14At the end of the day, they doing all this other crazy stuff why you can't do it? And so he just basically thanked me the other day for just basically accepting what he had going, basically believing in what he had going. Like I said, that's my God, man. I got to get him on. He just reached out and said thank you? Yeah, I swear. I was getting my haircut at my house. He called me. He was in Tokyo. He was in Japan. They getting him over there, I guess. It was broad daylight. Japanese, they love everything. It was broad daylight where he was. It was dark where I was. You know what I'm saying? He was just calling me.
44:45He had just got the shower. He was like, yeah, man, I just want to let you know I appreciate you. I thank you. But yeah, Shabuza, that's my dog. I was just with him in New York. I was trying to bring him out to the show today, but he in L.A. now. He's all over. Yeah, we sat next to each other at a game. It was pretty good. Watching the Vegas Aces is good, man. Yeah, I got to go see a women's basketball game. I feel like it's more intense. I can relate to their games because I can't dunk they can't dunk so every time they trying to dunk and they can't that's Ryan you feel it I feel it I know what these women are going through I actually can dunk my manager just didn't get footage of it because he almost got fired that day as well but I was just recently shooting a Prize Speaks commercial big shout out to Prize Speaks and I dunked a bar he really?
45:33I'm lying We won't say what he said No he said I'm not lying You're not lying I dug the bow Wow really They don't believe it See this is why you needed the footage I believe it I believe in gravity also So that's all I'm saying Drewski was there Wait was Sketch there too Yeah Sketch and Drewski was there Oh yeah how was that I heard it was good It was all for prize picks Yeah, it was long, but we got the job. I got the movie right there, bro. Yeah, I seen it before I said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, no, they're all great guys, man. Everybody's just genuinely funny. From Spice Adams, that guy's hilarious.
46:16Spice Adams, I don't know him. That's the old. Bring him up. Yeah, bring him up. There you go. Let me get a look at him. Spice Adams. He's a chef? No, he does like the old basketball. when you see him you oh wait did he do the that's Anthony Adams but he goes by Spice he goes by Spice now I thought that was Anthony Anderson actually for a second I think that's a movie artist or something yeah it is you gotta pull up like one of his clips like one of the basketball clips yeah let's see if you can get one of them I didn't even know he played professional football me neither hell I didn't even know I didn't know who he was.
47:02Spice Adams. Go to the video, down to the right, far right, right there. This is, oh. Oh, dang, bro. We tried. We tried, Spice. Oh, there he is. He's just a funny guy. Come on now. You didn't do that now, did you? What was he doing, mic apps? Nah, he was just saying, this is how old the guys laugh. Oh, yeah. How old his laugh Glucose mama jokes The way I went
47:38But yeah he a character man Drewski Everybody know Drewski's a character Drewski's a best man Me and Drewski did a fake movie It was like a fake movie That we made This shit was messed up So the family is called The Diggers is their last name right? Drewski wrote it. Okay. So we're at the, one of them, the dad dies. It's Drewski and his sister. They own, they're inheriting a funeral parlor. And then I'm married to Drewski's sister. Okay. And so I'm getting part of the funeral parlor. Okay. And they're not happy about it. But anyway, we're at the, we're at the funeral of the dad, the guy that died.
48:22And the last name is, his name was Nathan Digger right and so I had to make a speech in front of all these people and it was like man I don't know if I can say this right now but I was like man this is the best digger we ever had in the whole world right and it was a room full of black folks who didn't I didn't know any of them and Drewski and them are in the back just howling bro and I'm just having to keep, I had to do it like 15 times. Finally, I was like, man, I can't do this anymore. It would have got awkward after a while. Yeah, bro, right before. Even if I know that you're saying this other word, after like the seventh time, it starts to sound like the other word.
49:05Dude, it was, yeah, it got really scary even for a little while. But it was, Drewski's hilarious, dude. The video where he gets out of prison, that's Demon Home. You seen that one? the day now. Oh yeah. That's Lil Ray. That's Lil Ray. This episode is brought to you by Manscaped, the global leader in men's lifestyle and grooming. Every man knows the unbeatable feeling of a fresh barbershop shave. Oh yeah. Now, what if I told you, you no longer have to wait weeks or even months between appointments to experience that feeling. Introducing Manscaped's latest release, the Chairman Pro Package. The Chairman Pro Package isn't just for daily shaves either.
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51:32visit betterhelp.com slash t-h-e-o today to get 10 off your first month that's better h-e-l-p betterhelp.com slash theo plug they're sending a lot of people to space would you ever go to space if you if we needed you out there a lot of people would have to go before me like you would have like a group of people would have like not the astronauts that like you would have because they They said they're supposed to be building a hotel up there or something. Yeah. Somebody gotta go stay in that hotel for a week and come back safely and they gotta check all their blood, you know their vitals, and if everything good, I'd go on like the third or fourth group trip, you know what I'm saying, I'd go on that.
52:19I would. That'd be wild if you were out there. It would, because I would be lighter. Yeah. That's really where I wanna go. Lean with it, rock with it, boy. Exactly, I would make, I would, I have so many captions when I come back. Man. I wonder if you could write different bars if you were in space because it would affect you differently. My mental right. Yeah. I can't say nothing about standing on business because I'm floating on business. I see what you're saying. That'll be hard. We got to get some space, man. First album written in space, that'd be tough. I'm on some Soulja Boy stuff now. First rapper to write an album in space.
52:56Yeah, I wonder, man. Big extraterrestrial You could meet an alien out there Do a lot of you believe in aliens Do you believe in aliens my friend I don't know Cause you gotta think man They got a lot of space out there They do Do I believe that there is another Like planet out there With life on it Of course I think so Aliens I think they might look just like us I think they might look just like us they might just speak different and yeah I ain't gonna say they just look like I'm not gonna say that but yeah like a Teletubby or something yeah they might look like yeah I'm not gonna do that but they might look like the guy with the ears yeah him down there they might look like that oh damn he look like he cut his own hair
53:57That guy cuts his own hair, man What if they don't have to cut their hair? That's just how their hair naturally is They just snap and it falls off how they want it to be Wow That's as alien as it'll get from me Dude, we used to have a bus driver He'd cut everybody's hair He was the barber in our town So, like once a month He'd pull the bus over Two dollars, everybody get cut up Two dollars? I don't know if I would want their hair cut Oh, it wasn't a great cut, but it was the only cut they had, man. It was like, what can you get for$2? I mean, you get what you get. He was just sitting in a bowl on your head and just cutting around it.
54:30Well, he could do it off a site. He didn't need a dishware or nothing, but he did it. He didn't have that much faith in himself, though, because$2, that don't even get you nothing. But this was, man, this was 25 years ago, though, 222 years ago. Oh, okay, okay. So he had, yeah, he really, I thought he did a pretty good job, but he pulled that bus over, bam, everybody. 27 years. How old are you? I'm 44. Really? I'm an adult, man. I'm going to die soon. I'm an adult. Man, you look good. It's the end. Thanks, man. I feel good, but I'm just getting older. I got to get a wife soon. Yeah. You don't have to.
55:13I know. You don't have to. You don't think? Man, it's like part of me feel like this I don't know man I got two women right now And I just feel like I probably would be better with none right now You know You know, cause it's just like as you get As it get better It get worse Yeah But there's something also admirable about a guy That's able to Make that work though too I think If I see that and a guy's able to make it work, that he's able to take care of his wife or ex-wife, I feel like there's almost something a little bit admirable about it. I struggle every day. Yeah. I struggle every day. They see it.
55:57Every day I struggle. But, you know, I feel like it's making me a better person because now I feel like the past me didn't know how to treat women. Now that I got a daughter, it made me want to treat women better, and it would happen right when I have two women. so now I'm treating them both like queens, obviously, but it gets to a point where, you know, that's another combo. Look at everybody starting listening. Yeah, that's another combo, man. That's something else, bro. Definitely take as much time as you need because once you get married, it's a wrap. You there. It's a wrap. My dad just told me he's going to propose to his girlfriend on the Dallas date.
56:37Wow. On stage. Uh-uh. And what song are you going to play a special song for him? If she says yes? I mean, he's the voice on Texas, so I'll probably just play Texas. First off, will you marry me? Dang. If you got to meet some aliens, what songs would you play for them, you think? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm from Texas.
57:05And what about some other artists? The biggest, the largest. Yeah. I would play that for them. They would like that. But if they pull up with a big-ass, large-ass alien, you're going to have some competition, though. He's going to like the song, though. He's going to like the song. That's all I know. But I definitely would play, got to play some Lil Wayne. I would play. Yeah, dude. You got to play some Lil Wayne. We used to live not far from Juvenile, and he chased a woman down the street one night in our neighborhood. Oh, Jesus. We just going to say she did something wrong. Oh, I'm assuming she did.
57:42yeah and we can probably take that out i don't want to hurt the guys i don't know if that's still pending either um what uh yeah i'm trying to think of what else man you've had so much success this year do you start to feel about different goals or you just stay you just kind of stay in in the pocket you're in like what do you feel like do you feel a responsibility to keep up with your own success now because that's interesting once you start to have some success you almost set the bar for yourself without even realizing it, right? You're just trying to achieve some goals. But then you set a bar kind of.
58:15I mean, like I said, I didn't come in as wanting to be the best rapper ever. I didn't even want to be a rapper. It was just something I had to do something to take care of my child. And so it's just to the point where it's like, as long as I'm taking care of my child, I'm good. I still don't feel like, I'm treating this as the NFL because like I said, I thought I was going to be a football player. The NFL stands for not for long. So I gave myself five years and I tell them every day, man I can't wait to retire in this rap. And they be like, yeah you got like 10 more years. And I be like, no I got two.
58:45And they be like, no. I'm like, yeah I only got two. Cause after that I'm just, I feel like movies, you know like I'm just setting myself up for other things to bring more revenue to my family. When I'm gone, my kids gonna be so rich, they ain't gotta do nothing. But it's gonna like, I'm gonna have, I'ma been done so much like as far as music, movies, commercials, voiceovers, whatever, you know what I'm saying? It's gonna make them wanna do something, you know what I'm saying? Man, my dad did all of this. I gotta go do this. I gotta do something to make my own name. I want my kids to want their own name.
59:22So it's like everything that I'm doing right now, I'm basically doing it to make it hard on them. I see what you're saying. Because if they're as competitive, if they have that competitive spirit. And I don't know, that's in me because it got passed down from my dad, I had my brother to say, it's all, it's just, I know, I know that's, you know what I'm saying. That's gonna be there. Exactly. Yeah. And so when they, when they, when they nice and ready, I just know they gonna, they gonna put their best foot forth and they gonna figure it out. Amen. But if they don't, they got piles of cash to sit on if they don't, you know what I'm saying?
59:48What about a Christmas album, man? You gonna do something like that for everybody? Man, I did do a Christmas song one time when I feel like it went crazy. I just dropped it at the wrong time. When are you dropping it? In the summer? No, it was cold. It was cold. I actually dropped it right around Christmas. It just was earlier in my career. Oh, that's what you're saying. So I had less odds, you know. Yeah. But I think it's over a million something right now that I've become who I've become. Maybe it could pick up then this year. Yeah. Yeah, I think we got 1.5 a year ago. And would you ever do a mall Santa or something like that, like for children or for charity?
1:00:23I would. I would. That's actually a great idea. That'd be sick, bro. That's a great idea. Yeah, dude. If you got to be a mall Santa, that would be pretty good.
1:00:36yeah I don't know if we can listen to it or not because we'll have to it'll get claimed or whatever what's your show like man what's the show like I might pull up tonight you should at first my shows would just like turn a lot of dancing people shaking a towel and all that there's always that one guy that's just the towel guy or whatever Like on the rap stages, there's that one dude and he just... Oh, you're talking about like a hype man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess Roe is my hype man. It's good though. You gotta have him. No, but no, we're more like put together. Like, I don't know what it is. Me and Roe, we've been performing together since my first ever performance he was on stage with me.
1:01:22So, I don't know. It's just the chemistry is there. We know we wouldn't... Everything that we done put together, it just happened. It wasn't nothing that we said. Like we just for the first time did rehearsals before this tour. And we done did three tours before. Like my tour, Kevin Gates' tour, Key Clock tour. We never rehearsed nothing. It was just we went on stage and it just happened. Wow. So now we finally rehearsing it. So I just feel like they made it. Like now he come out on stage in a FedEx uniform. You know what I'm saying? Like it's crazy. We just put more to it. Yeah, yeah. It's just you should come.
1:01:54Yeah, I'm going to come. To see a big guy my size move the way I move. and you wouldn't even think that it was an hour sale. I do hour sets, and you wouldn't, if I wasn't sweating so bad, you wouldn't even know I was tired. I don't know, it's just kind of like second nature to us down there, and we were football players, so we done always been under the lights, you know what I'm saying? And so, I don't know, it just makes you want to put on more of a show. Do you have some ballads in there too, some love songs like that? I guess I used to, but now, so the Take Care Tour is basically I mean it's off of the album You know it's based off the album And my album wasn't more of a It wasn't a turn up album It wasn't a For the women album It was just me speaking on me In this industry You know speaking on me in the now And so like now I feel like my shows Are more like Personal Like a lot of people that come to my shows now They come because they feel the same way They feel the same way Exactly And so Like I did it myself I've been doubted Exactly And I still believed enough in myself To get things Exactly, so now I speak, like now I perform with, what's that, what's the thing called that you sit the mic on?
1:03:05Mic stand. Mic stand, yeah, my fault. I had a brain fart, my fault. But yeah, so now I come out mic stand, like, I'll show you my intro now, and you'll be like, okay, yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. If you can pull my Instagram up, you actually can see it. Yeah, let's pull it up, and I'm going to come see tonight, man, and we'll get you out of here. Yeah, make sure y 'all follow me at Big Extra Plug as well. Wow, bro, that's so exciting, man. man. It's really awesome to see all your, to see just you have so many neat opportunities. That first one right there. There you go.
1:03:36Shout out to my cameraman, Trey Soles, man.
1:03:44Wow.
1:03:51I should have rapped, bro.
1:03:58I should have. They should have rapped. That's crazy. I should have got in. I had a little bit of a chance, but I didn't. Hey, it happens. If you ask me, this is the easiest thing I've ever done in my life. No cap. If it wasn't for all the extra stuff that come with it, this is the easiest money I've ever made in my life. It's different when you got to lie and make up stuff because now that's a whole other process you gotta do. Oh, yeah. But when you're just talking about what you've done, what you've went through, that's just coming off my head. I don't gotta think, oh, what would sound? Like, you know what I'm saying?
1:04:39I don't have to do that. Well, if you're staying true to your own life, then you don't have to manipulate anything. Exactly, and it's just so much easier. You can go in the studio. You're basically writing a story about yourself. Yeah. It's easy. Man, that's a great, it's interesting. I think people can understand what you're talking about, too. They can They can You just communicate so well That I think it just It reaches a lot of people Yeah You know X congrats on all the success man Appreciate you Yeah congrats on the tour I have them out now man Y 'all make sure y 'all keep running that take care of We got We only three days in the tour We still got 29 more dates And a lot of these are sold out by now Yeah a lot Yes a lot of these are sold out So y 'all try to get in where y 'all can fit in Huh Oh, definitely get those meet and greets.
1:05:29Oh, do people, yeah, how do you guys do that after the shows? I try to do them before the show because after I'm all sweaty. Yeah. So I like to do it before, but I don't know. I also feel like after it's more like genuine. You know what I'm saying? Before I feel like it's me, it's just kind of like trying to get it. And this is coming from, this is me being honest about me. Yeah. Before it's kind of just feel like it's like I'm going through the, like oh soundcheck and then meet and greet but after the show it's like it's just more genuine because you tired and it's just the real you now you've had the show already and they've gotten to see it too exactly so it's like whenever they come up like I had a guy a grown man last night walk up on me and tell me bro I love you I appreciate you because of what you got going you helped me I love you told me he loved me twice you know so it's like that's real love before if we would have did the meet and greet before he wouldn't went through the show.
1:06:24He said, I might love you. Yeah, yeah. Hey, great job. You know, that's all the guy. He listened to the show. He listened to the lyrics. Yeah, after that, the energy's been there. There's been that connection. I think a lot of people, you don't think about it from their perspective, though. They're just excited to get to see you. Some people, it's like you want to hear their music, but also I think you just want to be in the same building as them. And I think that's some of the energy that you have, I think. Some people, it's just their songs. Yeah, I want to go listen for their songs. I don't know if I I really have a sense of them as a person.
1:06:54But to me, it feels like, and it's just my thoughts, that there's something else where people are like, I also want to be in the same room as him. I just feel like it's. And it's different when you're genuine. You're humble. It's just you. It's actually you. It's not no. Right. You know what I'm saying? When you're just taking a picture and getting them out of the way. No. You enjoyed the show. How did you like the show? what was your favorite part of the show. I appreciate you coming out, man. People love that. It makes them feel like they're a person and you're a person. You know what I'm saying?
1:07:30When you're taking a picture and moving them on out the way, it just makes it seem like you're a robot. The machine is running you. Oh, yeah. And these days, some of the best artists is just everything that's outside of the machine. The machine's dirty, man. That's why I feel like everything that we're doing right now is historic because it's all this. We're doing it completely independent. Who's your team? I mean, I know a lot of them right here, but just. Okay, so I got a distribution deal through United Masters. Okay. So they don't do nothing but distribute my music. I mean, they gave me a small marketing budget.
1:08:05You know what I'm saying? Nothing too major. Like a major label, they pay for everything. You know what I'm saying? Like this tour, I paid for out of my pocket. Wow. The bus,$200 ,000 on a bus. I know, dude. That bus is damn expensive. I'll take the old bus. Greyhound was$60 to get to Rochester that's smart or FedEx you mail yourself overnight you might I don't know but I just feel like I'm kind of glad we did the best though because you know it's just you have to do it it's hard to start to spend that money on yourself we just got back from Montana some different places at a certain point you invest in this in your own, you have to be comfortable.
1:08:49You can't show up like you're rattled. It's like, because you have to put the show on. No, you're right. Not trying to preach at you. I tried to nickel and dime. We fucking was on motorbikes one time. We was on all kinds of shit trying to save money, man. We had a camper. We had all kinds of shit. No, for sure. Now, yeah, I mean, this was cheaper than flying everybody everywhere. Yeah. And we just, I just, I went through the Sprinter experience, and I just couldn't do that again. It's hard Amen Yeah we did all that Vance, Sprinter Yeah yeah And then finally You just have to make sure You're comfortable enough To show up Yep Wow Well what a journey Big X Thanks for just letting us Enjoy your music man I love Yeah just how humble you are man And just Yeah People to people man That's all That's all we all Are really doing You know Take care Tour And you can get the album You still have If it's sold out There may still be Meet and greet tickets available For sure And I know you're just and to keep adding more dates, man.
1:09:47You're going to be a busy man. Yes, sir. We working. We working. Yeah, I'm glad I got to catch you today, man. Yes, sir. I appreciate you for having me. All right. Blessings. Yes, sir. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can feel it in my bones. But it's gonna take
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