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33:36Oh, up in Gallatin. All right. Thank you for the invite there. And we think you could fit in really well with our family, and you would just bring a lot of conversation. And I think it's going to be some really good food. I can whip up some really good mashed potatoes. So, oh, and I'm making a pasta. That's really good. Anyways. Okay. Y 'all them carb dogs up there. All right. That's beautiful. I cannot make it. I appreciate it, though. Very sweet of you. I am, you know what? Here, I'll call you and tell you I can't make it. See if this works. Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system.

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35:00yeah i'm heading i'm going down to lafayette louisiana baby dustin poirier you know they every year they they uh they they they put uh cooking utensils into his uh into his fighting gloves and he gets out there and he'll beat up a damn meal for you son everything he serves you got a black eye the black eyed peas got two black eyes bro you're like Dang, some of them had broken ribs on them. Look, I didn't even know Pease had ribs. You know, he'll give you a little turkey leg or something, and it's in a cast. He beating the shit out of everything, bro. A turkey neck and a neck brace. That's how he does it, bro.

35:41He beat the eggs with his own hands, bro. I see him. You'll see him in the yard out there. He got on his fighting trunks and just, you know, just putting a bunch of hand action into a damn mixing bowl. You know, it's just crazy, man. I've never seen anybody do it like that. You'll see him out there fucking calf kicking a rump roast, bro. You're like, what is going on? But that's where I'll be, man. That's become a little tradition for me, and it's a blessing. I'm excited about it. And then we have a large show down there. It might be our largest show ever over at the Cajun Dome in Lafayette, Louisiana.

36:23And I'm grateful to be from over there. Just got my mother a home over in Baton Rouge. My mom just moved back home. So when we got her a house over there, and I'm just grateful to that. Thank you guys for the support over the years. And she hasn't complained about it yet, which is just damn unreal. deal so um what else let's take another call what are you thankful for trevin you got anything that pops into your head brother oh every day bro thankful to wake up thankful to you know have a job thankful mostly for my you know beautiful wife shout out to gabby and our family and yeah the health yeah that's it that really is true huh having some health man yeah and taking care of it too that's another thing because i'll take man i'll take something for granted in a heartbeat i'll take my heartbeat for granted in a heartbeat

37:29oh something else going on out in the world today um what else we got a call that came in right here. Hey, Michael. I just want to say, I've been thinking about turkey and ham. We didn't have ham at Thanksgiving because apparently ham's a Christmas thing. And I love honey ham. And all they have is turkey. Turkey's dry and bland as shit. No honey. So I didn't fuck with it. So I just want to hear your opinion. Okay, brother. I see you there. I see you having a lot of feelings about it. But, yeah, turkey or ham, hmm. Well, ham, ham, ham is ham. You know, ham, it just, it gets home and it's like, where's your mother?

38:21You know, that's ham. But turkey, turkey, turkey, turkey's a little more risky, I think. It's a little more perverted, I think. Low key, bro. Turkey. It's like, what you want to do to me? Want to put me in a sandwich? Want to put me in the fridge? You want me now? You want me left over? What do you want? So turkey kind of looking at you like that, I feel like. ham looks like it's been smoking or whatever like all right that you know it'll party but it's fucking you know you know it's gonna it can't it won't be able to drive itself home ham you know but turkey because it drinks ham drinks ham drinks but turkey is like it could be anywhere it could be turkey turkey you'll see you'll see turkey in a high heel you'll see turkey in a high heel that bit you know so that's how i feel i guess about that um what else got a couple more calls that came in here um oh here's a news story right here police find two kilogram garden gnome made entirely of mdma Wow.

39:52Yeah, that's it, man. That's how it is now, baby, baby. They got aliens in the ocean. They got MDMA in the garden gnomes, okay? Tape your eyelids to your ass cheeks, homie, and stay alert.

40:13Because they ripping everybody out here. Praise God, baby. what else do we have?

40:24We got another call that came in right here. Here we go. Let's see. Homeful Christmas. Yo, Theo. This is Harley from Portland, Oregon, man. What's up, Harley? And I had a great time up there. We did a show out there in Portland, which is a great city. Let me say that. People are always like, there's Antifa's up there. You know? You know, LARPing in the park. It's just a bunch of leftover Antifa and BLM activists and people, you know, adults wearing baby diapers up there, LARPing in the park and sword fighting and doing makeshift Renaissance fairs up there and shit. And damn George Foreman grilling every meal and shit.

41:09But I thought it was an amazing city. I'd never, I just hadn't, it was just, it really shocked me how special it was. yeah there's a naked guy pushing himself you know pushing himself in a you know and he's like you know has a boat oar and he's going down the street in a um a uh adult baby carriage or whatever but it's there's it's awesome i thought it was really really groovy i really like portland oregon um what'd you have to say brother sorry i interrupted you there let's hear more um i i really appreciate the way that that you peddle your tickets the way that you uh encourage people to not use second hand sites because you know you don't want to you don't want people paying more than they should to come see you i understand that and i really respect that yeah totally well a lot of times what happens is people will look up a ticket right want to go to the show this city this date or whatever and then other secondary sites that are reselling tickets will put them will pay more to get their searching higher on google and stuff like that and so then you click there and you're not really paying an origin you don't even have an option at a at a regular price ticket if there's still any available onward but then i go to your your website man and i see that uh theovan.com slash tour is redirected to ticket master and i'm just curious man you know the people absolutely hate ticket master oh yeah and i'm one of the people brother i hate them i hate them it's a they've been running this scam forever so i don't know how we get a politician that is going to break up the monopoly that's very obvious i don't know how you get that done you know i would love to have a ticket broker on this year, maybe we can start delving into the dark depths of all that.

43:08Because yes, it's a monopoly. It's sick. It's sick that you could take three of your friends to a show, but now you can only take one because the fees are astronomical. We don't see any money from the fees. Artists don't. You know? It's just the same people. It's these big companies. Who owns Ticketmaster? You look that up for me?

43:38live nation entertainment so there you go ticket master is a wholly owned subsidiary of live nation um which is headquartered in beverly hills uh yeah well i think one of the issues who's the owner of live nation i wonder

44:01Vanguard well here's this is fucking hilarious zoom in on this a little bit Liberty Media Corporation is the largest shareholder of Live Nation Entertainment owning 30 % of the company other major shareholders include Vanguard owns 8.3 % BlackRock Advisors owns 5.5 % so there you go it's the same people that own everything so that's why you're getting fucked because they own everything they own the building that the show is in sometimes and then they own the website and they don't care they don't care that's the bottom line they don't care they don't care that it takes more money out of your pocket and mine If I buy tickets somewhere, they don't care.

44:55They want money. That's all they want. So, yeah, that shit hurts my heart, man. Nothing I can do about it, man. And maybe one day there will be a better way to do it. I know Zach Bryan tried a unique method through AXS, I think, ticketing. But it hasn't shown up yet. A way that definitely definitively saves people that money. But yeah, those people are robbing people. And that's what it is. But we have a government that continues to allow that sort of business behavior, especially when they have a monopoly on the market. Yeah, those are my feelings. To me, it feels like it's bullshit. To you calling, I'm sure to everybody listening, I'd love to have an extra$40 from Ticket and Fees to go get me a SOTY or something.

45:44Get me a little Butterfinger or something. Get mom the payday or whatever. She likes eating. She can't even hear the fucking show. she's over here cheaper to get her a ticket than put her in dang hospice or whatever you know she's over here you know listening to uh whatever we're watching you know metallic on ice or whatever over here you know or ice spice on ice or whatever who knows what the hell they're doing now you know now it's they have a new anxiety on ice as a new performance for kids like what what are we even fucking taking our kids to it's big pharma anxiety on ice brought to you by live nation and pfizer dude that's what we're fucking doing i mean yeah people at least aren't blind to it um praise god brother thank you for the call and yeah i'm sorry about it too man let me hear the end let me hear what you have to say i'm sorry and i i personally would not go see a show just because it's being sold strictly for ticket matters so i was curious if there was some kind a way that we can get away from some big corporations and um and and hopefully by getting away from them you know you could get a more more of a percentage of ticket sales and that that yeah totally i mean those venues they could give away to something they could do something you know um they also yeah they charge people for parking a lot of times or it's just that's but some of it is business but that part i believe is egregious that's how i feel but no as of right now I don't know another way

47:15you know I could look into it though maybe one day I'll have you know I could own venues with other people and we could just do the shows there at our own venues and we wouldn't sell tickets and we wouldn't gouge people on those prices or maybe you'd find one politician that would just run simply on the fact that they're going to say hey fuck those guys we're not going to let them do it we're going to figure out a way so it's just those greedy companies and dirty lawyers I believe um but also there may be stuff I don't know about it they may need an extra 42 dollars a ticket to send you that email so I might be off um what else sorry am I getting negative there let me think about what else I'm thankful for man I'm thankful that uh I have buddies that check in on me.

48:08I need to do a better job of that or I would like to do a better job of that in the coming year of checking in on people and checking in on myself. You know, I want to make sure I do a better job of that. What else am I thankful for? Oh, I'm thankful my buddy, Jeremy just had a new baby, his third son. Him and his wife, Natalie, just had a child and they just have a blessed just man him and my buddy curtis they they run a uh speed and strength um training a training group over here in nashville and it just those guys are like they're like the best part of my week when i get to be over there and just laugh with everybody and we have so much fun and they really uplift a lot of a lot of the community here and so yeah that's something I'm thankful for, that he had a healthy son.

49:06What else am I thankful for? I'm thankful I got to go to my buddy Scott's wedding this year. I'm thankful I got to see my friend the other night.

49:19I'm thankful that God lets me think about other people and that I can try hard, that I can, you know, that if there's patches where I go through where I get stuck in myself that I can come out of those. We're not so, every thought doesn't have to be a sentence, like a life sentence, or that every feeling isn't like a life sentence. Even though there are moments sometimes where it feels like they might be, they're not.

49:46Thankfully, you can see somebody that'll change your vibe, you know, or change, you can hear a song that'll change your energy. And you can choose to hear those things too.

49:58what else yeah I'm thankful that some of the mistakes I've made haven't haven't put me in places that make things very tough on me from day to day you know that's been a lot of grace from God in those spaces what else what do you think about Trevin any other thing else any other gratitudes coming into your head thankful for friends like you said being able to be able to think about you know being grateful in itself you know what i mean being able to take the time to yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm thankful god lets me see different things or whatever see animals bro i would hate that shit if you're at the zoo and your people are just telling you what the animals look like or whatever and then the guy starts touching you on the back or whatever you're like this guy's a pedophile or whatever.

50:53Who am I even with, dude? That's the kind of scary shit that's out there. What else do we got?

51:07Let's see.

51:11Oh, here we go. Right here, gang. Shit, let's hear this one. They say harmful. Hey, Theo. This is Big Red here. Big Red, baby. Let's hear more, Daddy. I mean, I just want to preface by saying I'm not racist, but... Hmm.

51:38All right. Onward. Lately, I've been hanging out with some brothers, and I've sneezed a couple times. but um he sneezed okay you've been sneezing i i've noticed that i've been sneezing around outside and um and i just i they don't say bless you i don't know if it's like a me thing i don't know if like you it's like i don't know if it's like hard to look tough like saying bless you like i've been trying to say bless you in the mirror in a tough way and it's i gotta it's it's a really hard task to do like okay i think i see what you're saying you're saying a lot of brothers they don't say bless you when you sneeze well i mean i think that's just a that's just life bro i mean brothers been through a lot of shit historically man brothers and female brothers too the sisters they've been through some shit man get a history book dog so they ain't worried if somebody can't handle a little pollen or something somebody sneezed that ain't they're worried somebody goes in a prison you know that they that's when they drop some bless yous on them they worry they can't get the pain out of the culture that's when they that's some they'll they'll yell a bless you they save some of their bless yous for sunday as well but they it's it's white folk we you know we somebody sneeze bless you ernie bless you bless you nathan that that's because we that's you know black folk they just because somebody can't handle sitting near a tulip or something or somebody get a little activated their lungs flare up around a fern that ain't that's a little bit more white trauma than it is a black trauma i think you know some white dudes like oh them azaleas i can't breathe like you the floral george floyd or something man get your shit together man get you and don't bother a brother to say bless you because your white ass having trouble with some dandelion dander okay get it together your soft ass can't breathe for half a second you want god to help you god come on man come on man so i think that's just look man that's a cultural thing and i think you gotta to let that lie where it lies, baby.

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55:52Thank you. You know, I do want to say though, it's that, you know, it is that time of year where we can try to do more for others. That's one of my things I was thinking about yesterday. I was like, how can I make next year uh how can I do more you know and we all want to right we all want time I hear that so many times from people like hey how can I be a part of how can I do you know and so yeah I've been thinking about that a lot and I'm gonna um I want to figure that out you know just ways to yeah we have we all want to find ways to give back to help our our neighbor you know um And this is the time of year for that to be on our hearts, I think.

56:32Or I don't know, I'm not trying to preach at you. This is the time of year where that's on my heart. You know, how can I, yeah, how can I think about somebody else? Because what a relief it is when you're trapped in yourself to have a moment where you're thinking about somebody else. You're like, oh, thank you, God, letting me think about somebody else, man. What else? Let's take a couple more calls here on the way out. let me take this one right here hey Theo I love the show I'm calling with an issue I'm 20 years old I've been drinking every single day since I've been 17 there's been times where I stop drinking for a week I always fall back into the same thing and I hate myself for it everything pulls me down I'm just wondering and if you have any advice for me.

57:30Thank you. Yeah, I noticed myself, man. Thanks for calling, bro. I noticed myself when I get, when I'm doing something I don't want to be doing, when I'm doing something I don't want to be doing, and then I've said to myself, hey, I don't want to do this anymore, and then I keep doing it. I can't help but do it, right? That's addiction. You can't help it. You're doing it, which isn't you. That's not you making that choice all the time. It's addiction. It's a disease, right? So it's the same as if somebody had cancer. You wouldn't say to them every day, oh, damn, you have cancer. You keep choosing to have cancer.

58:06No, they have cancer. It's the same with addiction. You don't want to do this. You are doing it, right? You can't stop that cycle. And then this is what I would notice for myself. Then shame starts building up because now not only am I addicted, now I am now I am ashamed because I keep breaking my own promise to myself right now I'm losing my integrity so now not only am I dealing with addiction but I'm also dealing with shame and man when those two dogs get together good luck getting a frisbee through the yard brother them some growlers daddy but that's the only people ask me a lot about addiction stuff the only answer I ever know that has helped me has been going to recovery going to Alcoholics Anonymous starting there going to a meeting because the first thing they ask you in there is that my life is your life unmanageable that's the question is your life unmanageable nothing has to be about alcohol or anything is your life unmanageable because that's a way where you get to choose for yourself nobody's making a diagnosis of you being an alcoholic you decide but it's like is life unmanageable and that's a very fair question anybody and if the answer is yes then they there's more than you take it from there and there you know But I would recommend go to three AA meetings, some different ones.

59:55Listen for the similarities and don't listen for the differences. Because it's easy to be like, ah, this shit, no. You hear one thing like, that ain't for me, you know. So, yeah, man, I'm sorry that you're dealing with that. But that's really the only, I don't have a magic button or a magic solution, you know. And then once you're in there, you can maybe get some sponsorship or something. and they can help you decide if you should get treatment or that sort of thing. Now, if you're drinking every day for that long, you may need treatment to detoxify yourself. But thinking of you, brother, and thank you for calling, man.

1:00:32I appreciate that. What else? Here we go. Let's hear it. What up, Theo? Hi. Hey, I got a question for you, Theo. My name is Jocelyn, and I have a son here. He's 10 years old with Down syndrome. Just any advice that you would give to him personally would be much appreciated. And we think you're great. Keep doing what you're doing, bro. Thank you. Thank you, Jocelyn. That was very sweet of you to call. Happy Thanksgiving to you and to your child right there. And I'd say to your child, I'd say hang in there, young king. Okay? You little freckled sparrow of the heavens, hang in there. Hold the line, baby boy.

1:01:23Because young DS lords like yourself are heroes and you are beloved. You are God's thank you card. There's not any of us in existence that doesn't see somebody with Don Sinra and feel something, you know. You make a candle, just light up inside of everybody. Y 'all are the ones braving the genetic nether realm to see what's on the other side. Y 'all are the Lewis and Clarks of DNA, okay? The Harriet Tubman of afflictions. That's y 'all, young king. And every year we're getting closer to winning this war. I'll say that out loud we will battle with Down Syndrome until it's all the way down we will not relent so keep hugging your mom and keep being a bumblebee of hope for all of us and keep smiling because when you smile when people with Down Syndrome smile we all smile somehow because we all have that just a not a not a DS but a D-O-S-E of it inside of us and I believe that you know and that's why we can relate and I love you and I love your mom and I wish y 'all a happy Thanksgiving and keep teaching the rest of us how to love better you know because I was right there in it I was right there in it just in the grips and I was able to just break my foot free as a child and I love you guys man baby praise God man

1:03:25what else any other call that came in here's a young lady that called and here we go one more call okay

1:03:39I'm struggling it's just hard going back and forth trying to find a job with an addiction it's really hard I can't seem to put the alcohol down and it's funny as it is I listen to your podcast because of how you talked about coke and uh i've been struggling with putting it down if i just get to the point where i just i get so deep you can't get out of it and i know what you know what i mean man it just breaks my heart kind of you know it's tough

1:04:33Yeah, just I don't know what it makes me feel. I mean it just I guess yeah, I mean it just yeah, I don't know makes me sad

1:04:44Yeah, I guess it makes me like um What does it make you feel like? Well, I think it's I think it's uh powerful that they feel like they could reach out to you to talk about it With someone who can relate you know what I'm saying? Yeah Yeah, I think there's a part of it's like you want to, you can just tell when somebody's hurting, you know. Let me see. Maybe let us call her. Is that crazy you think, Trevin? Do it. I think it would make her day. Let's just call her. Let's see. We can even ask her if we, I don't care if we put this on or not. We can just, let me see.

1:05:33Hello? Hey, what's up? Who is this? It's Theo. It's Theo. Yo. Theo Vaughn, I got you. Did you call? I don't know if this is the right person. Did you call our... I just... I'll have like a voicemail thing. I just didn't know if you called it the other day. Is this really Theo Vaughn? Yeah, it is. Who's this? Holy shit. You actually listen to it? Yeah, sometimes it takes me a while, dude. it freaking takes me a while but we just happen to um start list just like uh we're we've been listening for the past couple weeks to try and do like a um an episode to come out next week and so yeah today i was listening to him and i just heard your message and it just like uh yeah you know i'll struggle with shit so i just thought i would just say what's up or you know dude i just had a wreck like two days ago and oh what happened i don't know how i didn't die I was not paying attention.

1:06:29And I got, I like rear anything, but I was flying and I shouldn't have. And it totaled the fuck out of my car. I don't know how I died. I just came out with a small concussion and nobody else was hurt. And did you have insurance? Yeah. Oh, that's good. It's getting taken care of, but it's just been a shitty week. I got cheated on too, so. Oh. That's the worst. I can't believe you actually listened to my voice, man. Yeah. Yeah, well, it just shook me, you know? I mean, it just made me, you know, it seemed like you were going through a tough time, and I've been there for sure. I'm going on 19 hours.

1:07:07Of no drinking? Being sober right now. Let's go. That's awesome. Dude, 19 hours is big. I know. It's a lot for me. Yeah. Yeah, it is. I'm happy for you. That's awesome. What do you think? so what time of day or what kind of happens that you start to fall apart a little bit or make you drink well it was really the start of my job I started a job last year we ended up having to work it was a mandatory 7 days a week and it's been like that the whole time I started and I finally, they fired me in October and that's when shit really started to fall apart, I started showing up drinking on the job and stuff It was just getting really rough.

1:07:52I find out. Yeah, so you just drinking to get by, huh? Yeah. I went through a couple of relationships. I tried to make relationships and just got shit on. It's just, it's been a rough year, really. Yeah. Dang. And where do you got family over there or no? Yeah, I live with my mom and my dad. Oh, nice. Do you have any children? I don't know. I'm 24. still living a little bit of life I'm trying to I think you got some blessings right there you don't have a responsibility outside of yourself you got to take care of that's nice except for your folks yeah do you ever go to AA meetings or anything no I've never thought about it I got put on medication a while back but I got off of it and I think that kind of made it worse because it's like cold turkey oh yeah that can be tricky but I felt like the medicine was just making me more depressed but it could be from the drinking too while drinking on it so I've never had like talked to a therapist or anybody about it what do you feel I mean do you feel like you drank too much you just feel like you feel bad I mean or do you just feel like maybe you just had a tough couple days no judgment either I'm not judging you yeah I just I've been through I know there's people out there that go through worse things I was in a relationship for a few years before I moved back in with my parents and it was abusive I was pregnant and I lost my baby and I think that's where it all started it was just really hard yeah I bet that's tough you probably just I don't know what did it did you start yeah like what did you start feeling you think I just felt like I couldn't do nothing I couldn't do it anymore I think that's where it all started like to fall apart for me and I kept trying to like get back up and it just kept bringing back down and then I just picked up alcohol and it's funny because I used to never want to drink not even when I turned 21 yeah Yeah.

1:10:11It's just a lot of baggage, I feel like. Oh, yeah. Oh, if I just can't feel it, if I feel like I just can't do good anymore, that's a horrible feeling. Yeah. I'm sorry that you've been dealing with all that. I'm trying to get back up on my feet, get another job. I think that's not working and stuff like that. It's really, you're just sitting at home thinking in your head all the time. I have one friend and I love her to death. She always tries to help me, but I'm kind of a hard head and I don't listen to her. Oh, yeah. Don't try to help me. Well, dang. Yeah, I wish there was some way that I could help out.

1:10:55I wish there was something I could do to be supportive. Do they have therapists in your town? Do you think even going to somebody like that would help? I'm just trying to think of something that might help you get a better you know or do you need to get a new job do you think you could even work right now what do you think's going on i don't i don't even i don't know how to start i don't know if i i've always like been around people that tell me therapy doesn't work and you don't need to go to pay somebody to tell them about your problems because they don't care you know stuff like that so i guess i kind of just stuck that in my head but i didn't need to go talk to people about it i guess I kind of just hold it in until I explode yeah well yeah I just don't know if that's good or not I don't know if it's good for anything to hold anything in that long you know it's not but I've always grew up where you don't talk about your emotions so oh yeah dude oh god if you felt something in my neighborhood somebody would call you a dang f**k to be honest with you you know and no offense I didn't say that I think it's a No, that is exactly how it is But damn, yeah, I feel you there Well, how about this?

1:12:12Maybe I'll just I'll check back in with you in like a week or something To see how things are going Okay, it really helped me Call it, you actually heard me It just felt It made me feel better Yeah, well, I know what that's Yeah, I can relate to that, man, for sure Sometimes you just need somebody to listen yeah

1:12:39yeah that's true man I feel that I feel that

1:12:46yeah I feel that I definitely feel that yeah it feels good to get it out but you know some people just don't want to hear bunchpouts they're always like well I'm dealing with this I'm dealing with that everybody's dealing with shit yeah Yeah. But sometimes you just need somebody to hear you out and not make you feel crazy for it. Yeah. And you're right. Sometimes we just want somebody to listen. You know, we just want something to be, you know, we just want a place to put something. There's obviously different things you could go do to try to get help for yourself, you know, or if you wanted to.

1:13:21You have insurance or no? Yeah, I do. Okay, cool. So you could, if you wanted to try therapy, then you could try it at least. You know, I know it takes time to like try and figure that out, but that is a thing. and then, yeah. But yeah, how about this? I'll just, yeah, I just want to just, I'll check back in like in a week or something and just see how you're doing. Is that okay if I check back in? Yeah, that's fine. Okay, cool. All right, well, have a good time over there. What y 'all going to do for Thanksgiving? Shit, I don't know. What are your parents doing? They're cooking some food. I'm not on good terms.

1:14:01with my brother right now, so it's going to be kind of awkward. Damn, I wish I could figure that out before he gets over there. Everybody tells me to apologize. I need to stop holding the courage. I know I do. I'm working on it. Yeah, I feel you. Sometimes that stuff's hard. It's hard. Maybe, yeah. I don't know. I feel you. I struggle with that. I got the same issues with some of my family. It's tough. Family's tough. but yeah if I can't swallow my pride for my family you know at least do it for myself for others you know because it don't have to be about me on Thanksgiving that's what I started thinking the other day yeah you know I don't deserve to ruin other people's day just because I have feelings a certain way you know I should be able to figure that out I'm not telling you that I'm just saying that to me really gotta be humble and grateful well I just I should be able to approach somebody in my family at the end of the day say we're the last minute on earth what do i what do i want that family member to think i want them to think oh i was holding something against them you know that i couldn't figure out you know like no i would want my family member to think that i love them you know and so i got to figure that out even if it's for short-term basis you know because i i don't know i just don't want yeah i don't want to be always a part of the problem, you know?

1:15:28Yeah. All right, well, I got to finish up because I'm about to go watch some football. All right. All right. What's your first name? Well, I appreciate you calling, and I just hope you hang in there. And yeah, just don't feel alone, you know, because that isn't true. Yeah, I know. I have family that supports me. Yeah, and you just have people that are like you. I think sometimes you just have to go find It's hard sometimes we gotta We gotta find them You know Yeah But anyway I hope I'm not trying I don't sound like I'm trying to preach at you do I No I needed this actually I needed to talk to somebody about it Yeah Anything else you're feeling No I'm just gonna Drink a bunch of water and keep going there you go stay hydrated baby that's what you can do all right emily happy thanksgiving all right happy thanksgiving you have a good one okay you too take care

1:16:35wow sweet girl yeah man it just that's wow that's so funny this is saying things i'm dealing i got some found just like it's tough but then what do i want to do i want to go i want to bring all this shit or tell my family members like, well, I don't want to be there if they're there. And then I'm just making a storm. And the truth is there's a part of me inside of me that wants to be around my family. It wants everything to be okay, you know, but there's another part of me that wants to have things my way. That's really what it is for me. Even if the other person wronged me or I don't like their energy or whatever, I can't figure the shit out for two hours.

1:17:20You know? And then what's my part in it? I'm a saint. No. Sometimes I'm a Saint Bernard with a couple of face tattoos, baby. I'm fucking Jelly Wolf. You feel me? So don't make me pop the trunk. Oh, this is my brother. Let me see if I can get him to say a couple of things he's thankful for.

1:17:45Big Z. What's up, bro? Not much. I'm recording my podcast right now, brother. How are you? Good, good. Just checking in on you, bro, and seeing... Checking in on you after the other day. Oh, yeah. I appreciate it, man. Yeah, I was just talking to some girl. She called her hotline. She'd been having a tough time. Oh, really? Yeah, she was having a tough time, so I just called over there and was talking to her for a little while. Oh, from the show? Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah, so you've been doing the hotline more now? Someone said that to me the other day. I'm trying to. Sometimes it's hard for me to feel comfortable.

1:18:25It's like I don't like to do it when I don't or do solo. You know, sometimes I do my podcast just by myself. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't like to do it if I don't feel comfortable, you know, like if I feel agitated or something or I'm stressed out. Yeah, well, that's fine. That makes sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. Because it just feels like I can't be, I don't feel like my, you know, I just feel like, like I'm just going through the emotions or whatever, you know. Yeah, you kind of caught up in other stuff. But it was just, yeah. But some girls called, she'd just been struggling. Oh, nice. That's pretty, that's pretty crazy.

1:19:06You kind of did a little 12-step work on your podcast. Yeah, just to listen to her, she was talking about. I don't know. She reminded me of just, it's funny. because we both had some of the same things, which was like being around family during the holiday, just stuff like that, too, we ended up talking about. Yeah, yeah. I need to call that hotline, man. I always forget about that. You guys can call in sometime? Yeah, dude. Well, actually, you can help us right now. We're finishing that. If you have a couple things you're thankful for, we're just going to think of a couple of them on the way out of the episode, if you got a couple.

1:19:38Oh, man, what am I thankful for? Oh, that's such a big question. I know it is. I guess I mean, I'm definitely thankful for my family. You know, you and everyone else in our family, for sure. I'm really thankful for my friends and the friendships that I've been developing.

1:20:04I mean, I'm thankful for potential, you know, just like being able to just to get up in the morning and, you know, go for another day. I'm thankful for, I'm really thankful for the, that I get to be a parent, you know? Um, yeah, I love parenting. I love raising my children. Um, uh, what does that say here? Yeah. I used to have this, uh, this hypothetical, like, That's a little bit derogatory, but I can tell you if you want. Yeah, all right. All right, so if you're on an island and you can't masturbate, right? You can't. Okay. That's the example. You have no arms. You can't do it. Okay. You have legs, though?

1:21:01Well, yeah, but if you can use them to masturbate, then no, because you can't masturbate in this example. Okay, I see. So no matter what? There's no way you can do it. There's no way you can do it with one leg. You have one leg and no arms. Oh Got me And you're just laying naked You're laying naked on the beach On this deserted island, right? Okay But you have a strong libido Okay And you're a heterosexual male Like you Like you I mean, like you probably are I don't know for certain But you probably are a heterosexual male So you're a heterosexual male Yeah And You have a strong libido You can't And then all of a sudden There's another man on the island Oh So here's the question Mm-hmm Do you eventually have sex with this man?

1:21:40no i don't think you do yeah for me it's a hell yeah god i mean really i don't mean like that well yeah think about it which if you can't if you can't masturbate you can't but y 'all date for a long time first or is there any or how does it even no one day you're out there just laying on the beach because you can't walk you only have one leg you can get up right just laid out well you could you could knee over you could knee over you could hobble over and then kind of from the distance here comes this man walking and he's got two legs oh yeah big spender huh big spender he's got a shirt he's got a shirt but you can see his chest and you guys just strike it up you know you start to make a little talking about dude just listen to this example you make a little bonfire together you roast weenies you have a little weenie roast wait hold on how can you can't even walk but suddenly you're a Damn Weeblow Scout, dude.

1:22:39No, bro. Look, he carries you over to the fire and lays you down. Oh, God. Breasts up. Breasts up. Breasts up. Lays you down. And then, so I'm just saying, eventually, you'd have sex even though you're a heterosexual male. All right. All right, man. I'm going to give you a buzz back, all right? That's what I'm thankful for. All right, bro. I love you. All right. I love you, too, man. Wow.

1:23:10it's got me thinking too man you're like you'd have to go on dates with the guy you know what i'm saying you're like and you'd have to know people aren't coming to get you you can't just you know what i'm saying trevin you'd be having sex with the guy and then you You hear a helicopter over time. Yeah, dude, totally. Yeah, you can't be, if you just are stuck on an island for two days and you hook up with a dude, then you're just a gay guy. Which is fine, but don't be like, oh, the island or whatever. Wow. Just an island, boy. Dang, bro. And that's why our family has trouble during the holidays.

1:23:53I'll tell you that, man. That is why they do. Blessings to everybody out there, man Thank you guys for being a part of my life Thank you for letting me be a part of your life Thank you for just this year It's been crazy, man The past couple weeks were really crazy Like, yeah, I kind of was like losing my mind I went on Joe Rogan's show And I was just having a tough time on it I just was like I think I got real scared Like after like the election And people making podcasts like they're like podcasts swayed the election and I don't believe any of that I believe people do what they want to do you know and and then they make out to be this big right-wing fat people emailing me about fascism or whatever and uh just a lot just like um yeah just because I voted for my buddy Bobby Kennedy's my friend that is my friend I know but I I in fact uh Uh, he's, he's a good, he's a, just a, he's somebody I trust.

1:25:01He's my friend, right? I'll vote for my friend. You think my friend is going to run for fricking president of the United States and I'm not going to vote for him, dude, or for, uh, you know, minister of health or whatever, or whatever it is called. It's called, um, Deadpool seven or whatever he's called now or whatever, you know, uh, the CBS warlord, or I'm not even sure what they're calling him now. But yeah, I'm going to vote for my friend. And I don't really care what anybody thinks about that, I don't think. And I wouldn't think it's weird if you vote for your friend. I don't give a fuck who anybody votes for.

1:25:40But yeah. But I don't know. Yeah, I think just a lot of stuff kind of freaked me out in the past couple weeks, and I was just been feeling overwhelmed. And yeah, and then we all go through shit, and then the year's going fast and whatever. I'm not making a pity party. I'm just happy to take a breath, man. I'm just happy to take a breath. Happy to be alive. And maybe I do feel like I have to explain myself. I don't know. I mean, you know, I don't. I don't know. I'm just, I don't know what I'm doing, okay? So you won't come to my house or office. I don't even have an office. but you won't come to whatever and see like a board like a you know chalkboard or whatever with arrows on it or whatever or like mitt you know it says you know secrets or you know just like so anyway i don't know what i'm talking about who cares man i've talked enough i've wasted enough of your time today as always the hotline is 985-664-9503 and yeah the holidays man you gotta think they're coming up let me try this one no that's jesus christ i'm gonna beat somebody's ass outside of a bed bath and beyond if i have to hear that let's try this

1:27:12okay it's close it's a bit much that's my brother i can't listen to that anymore he's trying to give me to go on a cruise i bet uh there we go

1:27:33a little too slow

1:27:37oh yeah that's taking a bath by yourself dude that's when it gets really crazy if you're young and you jerk off to that dude, you obviously wear like a nice jacket when you do it, you know. Yeah.

1:28:16just remind everybody be good to yourselves man um be good to others do let's do we'll just keep doing what we can do um excited about the end of the year we have coming up we will take a week off at some point um for no episode and uh and yeah that's what's that's all that's going on and um happy thanksgiving to you trevin you too brother yeah thank you for being here riley mal Ben Becker All of the producers that have helped Zach Powers Colin Reiner, Nick Davis Cameron George We got a whole gaggle Of guys and people Who have over the years Happy Thanksgiving to you guys And thank you guys for Being a part of my life And the support And you guys be good to yourselves baby Gang

1:29:21damaya Baby will be tonight It's all I need Somebody that I want me