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Podcast Summary: This Past Weekend with Theo Von - Episode E551 with Timothée Chalamet
Podcast Overview
- Title: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von
- Episode: E551
- Guest: Timothée Chalamet
- Release Date: (specific date not provided)
- Description: Timothée Chalamet, an award-winning actor known for his roles in films such as *Dune*, *Wonka*, and *A Beautiful Boy*, discusses his new film, *A Complete Unknown*, where he portrays Bob Dylan. The conversation revolves around his experiences growing up in New York City, the intricacies of selecting film roles, and the transformation into Bob Dylan.
Key Themes & Discussions
Introduction and Tour Updates
- Theo Von shares his new comedy tour dates across various cities including East Lansing, Toledo, Pittsburgh, and more.
- He introduces Timothée Chalamet, highlighting his recent works and upcoming film.
Life Before Fame
- Timothée discusses his upbringing in New York City, reflecting on his experiences and how they shaped him before he gained fame.
- He compares Nashville and New Orleans, revealing his thoughts on local culture and food.
Transition to Bob Dylan
- Timothée talks about preparing for his role as Bob Dylan, emphasizing the challenge of portraying such a legendary figure.
- He shares his admiration for Bob Dylan and discusses the impact of Dylan's music and persona on his performance.
- Timothée stresses the importance of authenticity in representing Dylan’s character on screen.
Music and Voice Training
- The preparation included extensive voice and music coaching to capture Dylan's unique sound.
- He emphasizes the pressure of meeting audience expectations, especially given Dylan's iconic status.
Insights on Acting and Artistry
- Timothée elaborates on the pressures and expectations within the acting industry compared to the music industry.
- He discusses the balance between creating art and the commercial aspects of the film industry.
- The conversation touches on the importance of being true to oneself and finding a personal voice in a highly scrutinized environment.
The Making of *A Complete Unknown*
- Timothée reflects on the challenges of filming *A Complete Unknown*, including the physical and mental demands.
- He shares insights on working with directors and the collaborative nature of filmmaking, particularly under the Safdie brothers.
Personal Reflections and Humor
- The conversation is laced with humor as Timothée and Theo bond over their shared experiences.
- Timothée discusses the quirks of his personal life and his approach to relationships and family.
Closing Remarks
- Timothée expresses his excitement about the upcoming release of *A Complete Unknown* on Christmas Day.
- He conveys gratitude for the opportunity to share his journey and for the support of his fans.
Key Takeaways
- Timothée Chalamet is committed to portraying Bob Dylan authentically, demonstrating how deeply he respects the artistic process.
- The conversation highlights the complexities of fame, the need for personal authenticity, and the intricacies of the acting profession.
- A significant theme is the transformative power of art and the commitment required to create meaningful work.
- Humor and camaraderie between Theo and Timothée present a relatable and engaging dialogue, making the episode both entertaining and insightful.
Additional Resources
- Timothée Chalamet on Instagram: [@tchalamet](https://www.instagram.com/tchalamet)
- Theo Von Tour Dates: [TheoVon.com/Tour](https://theovon.com/tour)
- Merchandise: [Theo Von Store](https://www.theovonstore.com)
- Sponsors: Celsius, PrizePicks, Kraken, BlueChew, MasterClass, Zocdoc, BetterHelp.
Conclusion The episode captures a blend of humor, insight, and genuine reflection as Timothée Chalamet navigates his experiences as an actor preparing for one of his most challenging roles. The discussion offers listeners a personal look at the life of a young actor in today's entertainment landscape while celebrating the legacy of Bob Dylan.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I have some new tour dates to let you know about I'll be in East Lansing I'll be in Toledo Ohio Rama, Ontario in the Canada, Pittsburgh, PA, Eugene, Oregon, Kennewick, Washington, Seattle, Washington, Victoria, BC in the Canada, College Station, Texas, Belton, Texas, San Antonio, Durant, Amarillo, Oxford, Mississippi, howdy, howdy, Fayetteville, Arkansas, all, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and Tallahassee, Florida, Rosemont, Illinois, Winnipeg, and Calgary in the Canada. Get all your tickets at theovon.com slash T-O-U-R, and thank you so much for your support. Today's guest is one of the biggest young acting person people in the world, acting humans.
0:58You've seen him in Dune, Willy Wonka, A Beautiful Boy. And now his new movie, A Complete Unknown, where he plays Bob Dylan in theaters Christmas Day. You can check it out. I had a great time getting to know him. He's an enthralling dang human. Today's guest is Timothee Chalamet.
1:31We were just in Nashville. Let's start there. Are we good, Zach? Yeah. Cool beans. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I saw you were just in Nashville. Yeah. Had you been there before? Yeah, once, kind of exploring. I was doing a movie called Bones and All. I was trying to do research. Oh, yeah. It's my producer's favorite. No way. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. That we just met? Yep, that guy. Zach is his name. No way. And he loves it. Yeah, he really loves it. No way. So I had wandered there, and this time got a better sense of it. But it's a great city, huh? yeah it's a good place it's like a little city it's like a little city kind of like a fancy little city it's almost like the john benet of cities kind of like day you know look at this outfit kind of you know um but dangerous at the same but it has like kind of like an element of like mystery kind of that's a kind of a weird example no but you're not are you from there no i'm from louisiana but okay but nashville here's what it is it's safe it's nice people are friendly um you can't cheat on your wife there so it's not because the city's too small too small okay you couldn't take your wife or spouse or significant other um you couldn't even yeah like and you couldn't take them to dinner or something not see somebody that would know yeah one of you or them so it's there's like 14 people yeah it's well there's just there's enough people but there's a it's a the south's a little gossipy uh-huh okay so there's a lot of like it's not a really an adultery city it's not a city that's adultery is not like a trademark of the city probably is it how is it different from new orleans new orleans is a little bit more dangerous i think you know and better probably better food to be honest okay i think you have to have crime to have good food that's kind of how i feel that's i've never heard the mo really yeah that's interesting oh you ever had um you ever had that uh that yakum in new orleans that yakum is it it's not a drug is it okay because i've had that i haven't had i haven't had the edible version no oh this thing yeah yeah exactly oh this vietnamese food i don't think so i was watching top five um like top five new orleans street foods yeah yak 'em homie yeah yeah wow that's a deep cut right there it is a very deep cut i thought it came in a small baggie yeah i haven't had this bro i have not had this but you know new orleans has one of the largest uh vietnamese populations really in the country i did not know i've never been in nola i think so you haven't never oh man And a lot of stuff shoots there.
3:50For some reason, I just haven't been there before. Yeah. It's mythical. You know, Nashville reminded me of Austin a little bit. You know, 6th Street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Promenade a little bit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Sort of, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that Broadway, that area. That area is really interesting down there. What else about Nashville that I really like? You go to the soccer games ever? Nashville SE? I haven't been to that. I go to watch Lipscomb College. They play soccer there. What? At Lipscomb College. No way. It's a college. And they have soccer. And so I'll go watch some of their games. What's their student body population?
4:20That's a good question. Pull it up. Lipscomb College. Let's see. It's one of those colleges that right next to it has the high school also and then the children's school or whatever. So it's like you can go there from K to senior year of college. Yeah, you could go from K to 40. 4 ,800 students. Okay. But their soccer team has been ranked in the top 25 the past few years. So you love your diehard season ticket holder. You're there all the time. Sometimes I'll text my neighbor who's the coach Hey, you might have popped by And they're cool And he'll be on the field He'll be like, yeah, sure, pull up Do you get the McConaughey UT pass?
4:54You can go wherever you want? There's not a lot of bleachers So you're basically on the field all the time I was amazed I was at that UT Georgia game McConaughey gets full license He can do whatever he wants Because I already had a field pass I thought I was pretty high level in some way He's with the coach He's calling plays he's coaching he's taping a guy up he's taping a guy up he's like you're gonna be alright he's living the experience you know I got a buddy who's on the Nashville soccer team his name's Alex Mule oh really let's pull him up let's give him some shine cause I need to go watch him you think if I hit him up he would invite him to a game absolutely and the games are often sold out you know I grew up with this guy Alex Mule yeah but he was always M-U-Y-L that's the bane of his life man poor guy oh yeah people like Mule yeah this is amazing man I wish this is like this is what AI's gonna be and 20 years, just say it, and it pops up.
5:46Oh, as we're talking, the computer follows? Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah. I never thought about that. Have you tried, do you use the... VR? The Vision? Oculus, that kind of thing? No, no, no, the... Well, Oculus, too, I guess, but the AirPod... What do you mean, like, Blue Blockers or something? The Vision Pro. Vision Pro? What is it? The Apple helmet. But tell me about Mule. I just want to... Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad. So you played ball with him growing up? I played ball with him growing up, and he was just gifted, you know? It's tough, you know, you could play like... It's like that Last Dance Chicago Bulls documentary.
6:15Some of those guys will be partying all night, and then they'll drop – like Dennis Rodman will drop 40. It's like I can work my ass off. If you don't have the gift of physical talent, of athleticism, you're cooked. Yeah, you're done, dude. Yeah, some people got that damn – you got a damn foot Mozart out there. I don't have that. Alex Mule is a foot Mozart. Really? Yes. Oh, that's fire. Yeah, I got to go check him out, man. I haven't been to see a game. It's unfortunate. I did get to go see Vanderbilt, which is the college that's – That's the SEC college that's actually in Nashville. That's what I visited, yeah.
6:44I was at Vanderbilt. Oh, yeah, I saw a video of you out there. You know, I never had that American college experience. You know, I went to Columbia for a second. I went to NYU, so I'm jealous of that. But Vanderbilt, respect to Vanderbilt, it didn't feel like UT or it didn't feel like it had a huge campus or a huge— No, it's a smaller energy. Yeah. But we went to one game this year. They played Alabama, and they beat—they upset Alabama. So that was huge. It was crazy. Because usually their football program's not that good, right? It's not. Yeah. And they know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, we're not a total secret.
7:12No, no, you got to keep keeping their place. But that was the game they won. And look, they didn't even, it was like all these lawyers and attorneys like tearing down the goalposts. No way. They even had, they had a, there we are after the game. We actually, we. Is it a big law program? Carl Lee is their coach and he's an awesome guy. I mean, he's a class. He just gets smoked here. Oh, we got to, yeah. There you are. Dude, what are you doing on the field, dude? Took a while. Dude, what are you doing on the field, dude? You almost ran that person over. Hey, bro. That's amazing. Put on a helmet, girl.
7:42That was a girl that should not have been. Yeah, yeah. You almost ran her over. Yeah, she shouldn't be playing wide out. You know, it's just different. But no, it's a, what's it like there? It's a, oh, after the game. So they had like engineers like, how should we take this down? And then there's just drunk kids like, just rip it down. Yeah. And then they carried it down Broadway, which is like the street you were talking about, the goalposts, because they'd never had it happen. Those kids had never broken a law in their life. Yeah. They even tried to valet park the goalposts at like a restaurant.
8:09Yeah. Is it a fancy, like an expensive fancy type school? I mean, I don't think it's a lot of, it's a lot of kids that have never played probably dice in an alley, I would say that. So I would say it's, you know, probably pretty decent, you know. Man, that's pretty crazy, huh? But it is a really cool, it's a cool program, man. I feel like I could see three stadiums for my hotel. I feel like I could see the Vanderbilt one, the Tennessee Titans one, and Nissan Stadium. Shout out Nissan. Yeah. Is Nissan a big Tennessee car manufacturer? That's a good question. I don't think so. It sounds Nissan. It's Japan.
8:40Japanese. It's Japanese. Huh. Interesting. Dude, thanks for coming in, Timothy. I appreciate it, man. Man, thank you. You know, I, not with the shameless plug, but I got this movie A Complete Unknown coming out on Christmas Day. Did you actually see it? Yeah. Fantastic, man. So I'm excited that we can actually talk about it. And I was very much in the time period of the movie the whole time trying to stay without being a dick, you know, within the bounds of the character. But somebody in the hair and makeup trailer at the end of the day They would play this podcast you know Which is how I discovered it And particularly the episodes with the garbage man Sort of like the real life episodes The lunch lady, the coroner Wayne yeah Wayne the garbage man He's doing good Those were like awesome episodes you know And sort of like world views that I wouldn't get otherwise You know And you're from New York right?
9:28I'm from New York so garbage man He totally recontextualized that for me Bro he did a great job Because they used to have bomb they used to have they used to hate them you know yeah yeah because you think they're taking their time oh yeah oh yeah and i realized how tough that job is i mean he was like throwing throwing dogs in the back of it i mean that story is do you remember that there's a lot of yeah a lot of yeah missing yeah formerly living things started to disappear in the back of the back of well they used to have incinerators in the buildings that's what was crazy right right so that people would put their trash, it would hit the incinerator, and then they would just have, I mean, this is like 60 or 70 years ago, I think, but they would just have soot in barrels, you know, or in cans on the side of the street, and then they started getting bags, but he said, yeah, there's been times where a lot of things have shown up, but thank you, man, for checking it out.
10:16Yeah, all right, man. For just hearing it on accident. No, hearing it on accident and loving it, and I'm so happy you saw this movie, and this is like, you know, I hope this isn't like a shameless self-play, but Bob. No, it's not at all. Look, man, we're happy that you're here, and it's interesting. I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it. And you get to do a biopic or biopic. How do I say it? I still don't know, man. Biopic sounds like a medical procedure. Yeah. You know, that sounds like someone, you know, is inspecting your lungs to see if you played the role the right way. I like biopic. Biopic sounds fancier.
10:43Yeah, biopic does sound fancier. I think that's true. Yeah, biopic. Was it like, so let me think about a question like that. Just so people know, this is about a four or five year period in Bob Dylan's life. This is a four or five year period in the early Bob Dylan's life. And I'm sure a lot of people listening to your program are already fans of Bob Dylan's, but I'm sure a lot aren't because to my generation, you know. Yeah, people, some people don't know. So I don't know. And he's really one of the most fantastic American artists of all time and has influenced our culture in so many deep ways.
11:11And it's just, you know, I grew up on Kid Cudi and hip hop and that was really my, you know, my passion. And then somewhere in my 20s, because this movie I was working on, I became obsessed with this man, Bob Dylan, who's absolutely, I could just speak about him. endlessly and you know i would love if people saw this movie and even if they got a passing interest discover the world of bob dylan i feel like we get to be a bridge or a gateway to this to this guy and uh i hope this isn't one of your episodes where you got like someone you know like one of the most people skip because it's like a a person plugging so you know i'm saying like a like a i don't want to use that word celebrity but like you know because my favorite episodes of yours are oh like a fancy like a fancier person hypothetically no i don't mean it like that but just like i like like i said i like the ones that yeah we don't have like a lot of celebrities on you know what i'm saying yeah i never really use that word but um no that's okay yeah no no i don't think so look man i think i feel like this part of the job is that though because when i'm working i'm really very much in it you know what i mean and then here anyway yeah actors get kind of a weird rap though because then they also have to be celebrities in some way yeah in some way and uh well well if you want to if you want to get your movie out you there's there's only a limit of how pretentious in some way you know right whatever you know i want i want this especially this movie i believe in this movie and i believe in this man he's a tremendous artist so i want to i want to you know get it out there yeah yeah no i don't think that's man i think that like you did the movie with the young man with drug addiction with steve carell's son oh yeah beautiful boy which was awesome yeah yeah i know you struggle yeah i know you struggle with that a little bit yeah yeah man yeah and so many people have and it's like um so i don't think there's any doubt in people's mind about your ability to um be a bridge between whether it be a story you know a story or a person to uh a new generation or to um uh new listeners or or people kind of and i appreciate you bringing up beautiful boy and i feel like you're doing the exact same thing not to just blow smoke up each other's ass but i feel like when you oh we're a Toppling naughty Native Americans right here.
13:21Come on, come on. Yeah, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. If you're listening to this and not watching this, we're fully at the bottom half of our bodies. We're out of your booth, you know? It's getting spicy out here. I don't even know what that means. Okay, I don't either. I don't even know what that means. Take that out. No, no, but because I know you speak on it, too, and you probably empower people, you know, that otherwise would be doing some naughty stuff. Yeah, people want to hear us. People want to see it. People want to see, like, a little bit of a journey that they can relate to or hear about it.
13:48Yeah, exactly. So about the character So Bob Dylan has such a famous Because a lot of younger generation might not know about him And a lot of He has such like That's a good Bob Dylan man Was it? Yeah that was good How did you do when you first decided Because you had to practice it in your room or something Tell me about the first time That was super gradual Can't do it with people that are fans Because people that are fans of Bob Dylan will go They'll all tell you got it wrong That's the trouble with playing someone so famous and beloved everyone's got an opinion about him. Yeah. So you gotta put the blinders on and just kind of do it around people that, you know.
14:25Look, man, I'm usually not that prick actor who's like obliging his friends or whatever to listen to the character he's working on, but this is the one time I did that. Oh, I think you have to do that. Yeah, I have to do it, man. Because, yeah, you don't want to get out there and do a bad job of it. Exactly, man. This would have been blasphemous. I would have gotten killed. I mean, I could still get killed. Yeah. But now it seems like, you know, getting a little bit of love, you know what I'm saying? You might be back Hey snipers down Lay down snipers Yeah But was there a moment Where you tried that Where you actually tried it Yes Very gradually I had to There's a great dialect coach Named Tim Monick You know you can work with people That are like experts in this field And they'll tell you Oh really You had to go about it This man Tim Monick Invented dialect coaching He came up with it Tim Monick Let's bring him up M-O-N-I-C-H He's worked with Leonardo DiCaprio He's worked with everyone You know So he's a famous Dialect coach Man, I've never looked him up before.
15:20Yeah. Tim Monick. There he is right there. Okay. Is that the man? Yeah. There I am with him. I got in trouble anyway. Oh, you did? What happened to you? I got in trouble because the strike had just hit, and I was just hanging out with him, and I didn't really get in trouble. People thought I was a scab, and I was working with him. Oh, yeah. But he's a - Crossing lisp lines or whatever? You're right, dude. You're right. You're right. That's crazy. That's the only union where you'd be crossing the picket line by working on your tongue. Yeah, that's crazy. No, I'm stupid. It was a real thing, dude.
15:52Oh, yeah. Really? Scab. Stop working on the accent. How dare you learn Spanish? Yeah, exactly. That's crazy. Wow. Man, next time I'll call you. Because actually, when you put it like that, it's like, what are you supposed to do? You know? And I wasn't working with them. I was hanging out. You know? We went to a shitty, super shitty. It's bleak, man. And like the way Bob Dylan, when he came up, there was like all these cafes in downtown New York and the music. And now I was trying to find the folk scene in modern day Manhattan. It was brutal. Oh, I think in Manhattan probably. Maybe like somewhere in the village probably, right?
16:21Yeah, but it was brutal. It's still rough. I mean, I went to Cafe Wa where Bob Dylan came up. And it's just like Aerosmith covers now. So some guy goes, Dreamo! And you're like, oh, man. Oh, yeah. This is not how it was. Dreamo, I am. It has like a small aeropostale in the back kind of. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's kind of a bummer. did you have to meet Bob to get into this? I never got the chance to meet him not yet at all oh he's super reclusive he's elusive he's that reclusive? yeah I don't know if I'll ever see the movie yeah he did this ex post I've been taught to say it's not tweet anymore I guess fucking ex post but he did it like three days ago you know and that was more than he there's a movie about me opening soon called A Complete Unknown Timothy Chalamet is starring in the lead role Timmy's a brilliant Timmy is a brilliant actor I kind of respect it though Nice Honoring your youth Yeah yeah yeah Timmy's my 12 year old expression dude Timmy's a brilliant actor So I'm sure he's going to be A completely believable as me Or a younger me Or some other me The film's taken from Elijah Wald's Dylan Goes Electric A book that came out in 2015 It's a fantastic retelling of events From the early 60s That led up to the fiasco at Newport After you've seen the movie Read the book Oh that's nice Super sweet And then So do you even talk to him on the phone or anything yet?
17:39No, nothing. I never got the chance to talk to him. I like that you point out to Timmy. I tried, you know, when I was 19, 20, I was, you know, I was evolving into Timothy. You said you shed some letters. Exactly. Add some letters. Add some letters from Timmy to Timothy. Yeah, I thought you were going Tim. Sorry. Tim would be, you know. You're going Timothy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tim, like I said. Like I said, from Timmy to Timothy. Yeah, 40s, 50s, couple of ex-wives. Then you go Tim. Then you go Tim. You know, I'm like, you know, like mowing my lawn all day. Yeah, hey, Tim. Exactly. Missed a spot.
18:09Missed a spot. You know. You're like, oh, there's a bird's nest there. Calm down. Sort of a disgruntled expression on my face watching my kids' sports games. Yeah. Because they're not playing to the level that I wish they were. At a swim meet, too. At a swim meet. Swim meet's the worst because you can't even talk to the person next to you because it echoes so much in the room. I've never been to a swim meet in my life. Even if you whisper a little, the people here at S. Yeah. It travels. Oh, you cannot gossip. How many swim meets? Do you go to Lipscomb College swim meets? I mean, I don't go to the—I bet it yet.
18:35Yeah, be careful, dude. Yeah, I do. You're right. And it is. And I definitely watch from my car with binoculars, so it's not too creepy. So it's normal. It's totally normal. So the fact you've been doing it since your early 20s means that, you know, it's cool. I've got a grandfather in. Your grandfather in. That guy's not a pedophile. He's an artist. He's an artist. And this show happened, you know, this show sprouted in this period of you doing that. So how can you fault the process, the proof of the pudding? Yeah. How do you expect him not to rehearse his own life? But yeah That's the thing You just can't gossip at a swim meet man What are we talking about?
19:09I don't know I've never been to a swim meet You know that's a very non You know like there's four pools in New York City Oh yeah You know what I mean? That's true huh? We don't have swim meets But we have What do you guys have? We play dice in the alleys Like you were saying before No I'm kidding But you know I was talking about this the other day Like my high school They wouldn't let us out for lunch Would they let you out for lunch or no? Oh yeah You could do whatever you wanted at lunch They didn't let us out I feel like my skin tone From when I went into high school By the time I got out I looked sickly I haven't recovered Oh it got very Anemic What else is it called Exactly Yeah because they should give you at least an hour In the sun they give it to inmates And just cause I'm learning social studies I don't get it And then I'd be in the basement doing just acting all day Just cause I'm learning fucking Voltaire I don't get 40 minutes in the sun A raisin got in the sun I don't Hey, that's a good play.
20:01I was right there, man. Denzel Washington, baby. I will accept that. I will accept that. Thank you very much. I heard you're a big play guy. Really? No. Oh, thanks. I was like, God, I don't want that going around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, man, listen, that's the subversive. No one would expect it. That's very low-key, dude. Is there a theater in Nashville? Yeah, there's got to be. There is a theater program. That's a good question. I grew up in Louisiana. We had some theater. We just did like - Did you ever do theater growing up? Yeah, I did. I did. Well, it was just called Drama Club or whatever, and it was a lot of people who was, it was a lot of people, I think, that were wanted to be actors, and then a lot of people that just were kind of like - The outsiders.
20:37Yeah, outsiders. I went to the high school. It was the opposite. The drama kids were the - Oh, the cool kids. Yeah, and the basketball kids were like - No. There was like four of them. Bro, that's got to be interesting, because a lot of people don't get that opportunity. No, it skewed my perception of the real world, because then I got to Columbia, and I was like, oh, shit, the value system is totally different, you know? But actually, in a serious way, it kind of motivated me to go pursue my acting even harder. but did you ever think about acting? You're like, what's the exchange rate on this Hamlet scene I have?
21:01No, exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah, I did just some stuff at school, but I would always mess it up. We did Sherlock Holmes or something, and I was Watson or whatever, his buddy or whatever. Who was Sherlock? His man crush, whatever. And our guy was very progressive, so we tried to make there to be this small lover scene or just some ambiance between Sherlock and Watson. You didn't go for it? I don't know if I went for it or not. I was like 13. You gotta go out there, man. You gotta be bold. You gotta be bold. You would have earned the respect of all your classmates. Or actually, I don't know where you're from.
21:32Maybe. Who knows? Who knows? We'd have gone either way. But yeah, there was this definitely kind of romantic where they're looking for the clues and they're kind of finding each other. That's what the guy said. And I was like, this seems like insane. But you didn't do it. I tried my best. But then I remember the first night I got out there on stage, I took on this Latino accent for some reason. That's a strong choice, man. It's all about strong choices. And nobody knew it was coming. Perfect. And I was like, what's up, Holmes? you know yeah yeah yeah and then so yeah that was just and that's when I realized it was tough for me to be in some ensemble things I just wanted to be by myself you know like that kind of thing you found I mean this is a reformer right would you do a movie if it came your way if I've got to make it myself okay alright you don't want to be slotted into something I don't think so I just am super protective about myself for some reason which may seem kind of weird for some reason for some reason you had me on that was my choice yeah yeah yeah No, a good choice, dude Yeah So in New York when you were a kid, like who was your best friend?
22:30Best friend growing up Nobody, man, I was always pursuing acting, dude Were you really? I was born, I was bred at Warner Brothers Studios in a little embryo fluid It was just like that? Yeah, no, man, you know, probably Brett Goldstein You know A kid in your building or something? No, he was a kid on the Upper West Side And my older sister was friends with his older sister, Brenna and just I think they still live there Greg and Bess those are his parents and Brett you know that was my whole friend group then they all my whole friend group went to this school called Computer School and then I went to a school called Booker T.
23:02Washington so I lost my I lost my friend group there but and you have a roommate now? no you don't thank god man that's like more than sorry I mean but fucking that's more than anything that's what Jez Olnick says on Netflix he says you really made it when you don't have a roommate anymore oh yeah that's true oh in New York in life oh yeah yeah Yeah. Well, yeah, I think in well, especially in New York, because it's so expensive in other places. Some people get a roommate because they just get maybe lonesome or whatever. Do you have a roommate? I don't have a roommate. You know, I would like to get one or I'd like to get a wife maybe this year.
23:33Where? Where? Next year. How do you go? Twenty twenty five. That's what I'm calling it. Twenty twenty five. How do you go about that? I think getting out there and meeting people. Do you have friends that you trust that you would trust, like, to set you up? Some, but sometimes you're shocked at who they'll set you up with. Really? Like you're insulted? I mean, you're just like, well, we must think that you think differently. How so? Give me an example. Just like no names. Just somebody put me all with like a, you know, just a woman head. Like, you know, any way I say this, I lose here. OK, all right, all right, all right.
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30:21So I like the idea that it could be a bridge, but like I had a buddy that said, um, the Johnny Cash movie, Joaquin Phoenix, who is the same director, Walk the Line, he said, you know, I actually like Joaquin's versions of Johnny Cash's songs better than Johnny Cash's songs. But I never wanted that. Sincerely, I don't want that to happen here because, and I wanted to protect against it because Bob's got this raw voice. Yeah. He's got this like iron voice. And, uh, I don't want, I never wanted these songs to be sort of like more gentle than his songs, you know? And I had to fight against that because the recordings we made, a lot of them were super...
30:51It's hard, man. He was playing on a beat-up guitar with shitty recorders. He had a bronchitis in his early 20s. His voice was all fucked up. And I didn't want it to be, like, watered down, you know? Because he very purposefully was... He liked Jack Kerouac and Moriarty. He, you know, a lot of the books I read said he didn't have great hygiene and stuff like that. So I didn't want the movie to be watered down all of a sudden. Right, you wanted to honor him as much as you could. Yeah, exactly. But also without being him as much. not do this Hollywood version basically because these biopics is a fine line and I've never done anything like this I usually play a role yeah Wonka you did but that's maybe not real well don't tell the children thank god you know probably have to get psychiatric help but and there's a certain pressure with that Wonka too people are very protective of characters they love and there's sort of a cynicism about Hollywood about why do they keep revisiting the Wonka thing I felt was justified because it's a new story we weren't doing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory we were doing sort of an origin and by the way I don't know if you've seen Wonka have you?
31:54yeah which one have I seen? you watched it while you were in the car spying on the Lyft's college you had it playing on the audio first of all if you've never seen the Wonka movie you just listen to the audio that's already weird too it's interesting They had Stevie Wonder at the movie last night. Oh, really? Yeah. Interesting bridge right there. No, but I was saying the thing, man. I was like. It is, right? You're like just, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No disrespect, but I was just like, man. No, the godfather of surround sound, basically. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I heard. The premiere was pretty interesting.
32:28So last night was your premiere. Yeah, it was premiere in LA, man. It was great, you know. Oh, dude, thanks for coming the day after your premiere. Yeah, that's why I was a little late. I apologize, man. Were you guys up late? I'm a little brain fried. all the fall these crazy directors you know or crazy director josh saft you ever see uncut gems oh yeah so good that director so it's kind of that energy that chaotic thing so it wasn't like a low energy shoot this was like 16 hour days for three months then i went right into this so i haven't been like drinking at all never not that i ever really had a problem with it but just you know because these days and i actually find my mind is so much sharper i'm amazed i haven't gotten sick through this whole like last couple months but last night i had to have a couple drinks i'm kind of fried today man yeah i'm sorry my voice is a little no you gotta celebrate did You have to get up and make a speech?
33:10What's it like at something like that? I, man, great question. It's like. Oh, here we are. Oh, man. I don't do, I don't do the, I call it instant nostalgia, you know? Oh, seeing these pictures like this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean. Kind of bizarre, isn't it? Yeah, it's kind of bizarre, man. This is good because this is, I'll say this. It's a great cast and a great director. So we all have fun. Edward Norton, man. Edward Norton should come on this podcast, man. He's a legend. Absolute legend. oh yeah he's a super legend he was in the um he was you ever see rounders yeah you play do you play texas hold 'em yeah i play it sometimes um he's good and that both of the actresses were great the ladies in it oh and his wife was in it what's her name uh erico erico erico yeah yeah they got a um beautiful group of ladies in there and men too yeah like a boyd holbrook man with the blue suit on.
34:05That's a handsome man. Is he real handsome? Yeah, he's a stud. Well, dude, you're kind of a handsome dude. You are, man. You've calmed down, brother. I've seen so many people ape your haircut. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of freaking thieves out there. How long have you had it? This haircut I've had for probably... It's a little dicey today. I've had it for probably... Well, I had it as a child. Oh, no way. So this goes back. Oh, yeah. And then I tried to blend in whenever I moved to Hollywood and stuff, and it didn't work for me, and so then I tried to blend out. Oh, so you started in LA before Nashville.
34:36Yeah. Yeah. I lived out here for 12 years. I was doing standup comedy. This is where I started doing standup comedy. Oh yeah. Where? The comedy store and stuff like that? Yeah. Yeah. Comedy store. It was awesome, man. I really enjoyed it. And a whole like sort of generation of comedians came out there then, huh? Yeah. And that was like, um, yeah, all types. They had like, uh, Chris D 'Elia, Tom Segura. Is that a bigger, uh, bigger comedy base here than New York? You think? That's a good question. You know, what's so funny? They're totally different from each other. And some people in one don't even know the people in the other because the audience is different you think just just it's just a total different group of people like you go there and it's almost like it feels like you have to start all over it's it's just a total different like you i'll go into a club there and it feels like a whole different thing i'm walking into a club for the first time in new york you don't think you get the love you get out here i think you you'll get though you'll get a lot of respect but you just feel that way it's not your territory you know right right right and you want to give respect to the guys that that's their grounds that they walk on every day interesting interesting Because that's where they live.
35:31If somebody came out and was being real flashy, but they're not in your club here, it would be the same way, I think. Interesting. So there's a lot of code of conduct like that. Would you ever do Saturday Night Live? I don't know, man. You know, it's so funny. I went and saw it recently. It's crazy, right? It's a crazy setup. It is crazy. You did it? Yeah, I've done it twice. Oh, you have, okay. It's super dialed in, right? I should have known that. Oh, yeah, dude. I went with Chris Farley's brother. It was the first time that he'd been back to go to SNL Since his brother was on Since he went with him So it was pretty neat What was that like for him?
36:03He was Dude he told so many great stories I wish they'd have put him out on stage I was like Have him go out there Right Tell his stories It was just classic man But I went to watch Bill Burr I'm a big Bill Burr fan So I went to watch him Did you see the last Sandler special on Netflix? McGee performed that night too Oh sick That was dope Wow yeah And then There we are right there With Chris Farley's brother right there I thought that was McGee Dude you look like you're 23 man it's true i look like i'm on hgh no no no i gotta get some hgh do you work out yeah i do work out dude yeah i do god yeah i went today i mean that's what i mean um but yeah we once works out once um what else do i want to know about this film so you didn't hear anything from bob what about like his wife or his kid or something no his kids you know almost towards the start the monica who plays joan baez in the movie she was in touch with joan the whole time and i thought about reaching out to his kids but the thing is when somebody gets revered like bob at some point he becomes this legend you know people can sanitize the past you know what do you mean by that when you say that just so we know they could present the best version of someone you know uh and not present their flaws you know even a lot of the documentaries about bob they just paint him as a genius there's one documentary called don't look back this t.a.
37:24penny baker one we actually see him raw it just captures his behavior and it was sort of right before he got too famous where he turned his back you know on letting himself be filmed and so that was like the biggest help for me because and i thought about talking to his kids or his grandkids but um actually i was at the university of minnesota like three days ago we're doing a doing a sort of a screening for the students there and then someone said this is milo dylan this is his grandnephew and he looked like kind of looked like bob and he's he's like we get a picture and then he put his finger out and he said, you FaZe?
37:53And then I said, well, like the video game, he said, no, never mind. So the new Dylons, so even all the Dylons are unique. Yeah, I don't know what that means. You FaZe? You FaZe with a finger like that. I don't know. I mean, I know FaZe Banks, I don't know a lot of the FaZe guys. I know that one of them gave CPR to Sketch one night or something and he wasn't doing good. Whoa. But anyway, shouldn't have said that out loud. Who's Sketch? I don't know who's Sketch. What's up, brother? That guy. Did you see him? No. Oh, my gosh. Wow. It's crazy how different worlds are so different, dude. Sketch him.
38:33No. Oh, my God. No. Oh, yes, I have. I have. I have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up, brother? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been on this. Oh, yeah, he's been on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a great, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He is so creative. He has one of the most creative minds I've been around. Yeah. Just like he has his own pentameter of making jokes and stuff. It's pretty fascinating. Is he stand-up? Nope, he's not a stand-up. I think there's this new thing that goes on now where as if somebody's – it's interesting. What's going to happen with stand-up? Because stand-up has been this thing that people always go practice and then they go do.
39:01But now a lot of people build so much traction from social media. Yeah, that they pop off like that. Right. So then how do you – but then how do you take that and perform it? Is there a performance element? It's a whole different thing. Yeah. Yeah, because some people on their podcasts are – granted, the stand-up is different, right? Yeah, it's different. Do you feel like stand-up's in a golden era? I feel like it's like boxing I feel like now I feel like Netflix Kind of made it You know Sexy again in some way Yeah I think Well the news Got like very All the same I feel like And it got very A lot of people believe Maybe Commandeered By advertising In a way Right right right right Some of that happens It's capitalism So I think Podcasting Was just this like Became this open format Yes Yeah yeah yeah Where it was like Also you know That you're really resonating In some way Yeah Right Because it's not dollars.
39:48Well, especially in the beginning, for the first four or five years, you're not really making any money. So it's like you're just doing your best. You're just keeping it. And then at a certain point, people will say, well, if you're not going to let me say what I want, then get your advertising off of my network. Yeah, that's a risk, man. I mean, it's a risk dollars-wise, right? Oh, it's a risk dollars-wise, yeah. I mean, Dana White was on here one time, and one of our episodes got pulled down because of – we had Bobby Kennedy on this political – a buddy of mine who also ended up going into politics.
40:19But they didn't want to be associated with it or whatever. And anyway, Dana was on, and he said, what – who called and said they – and we were like, it was this – Kellogg's. It was Biking Company or something. No, it was like a Proton or whatever it's called. Peloton. Peloton. Peloton. Interesting. And dude, next thing you know, people all across the country were throwing Pelotons. into the Boston River. Well, they give you heart attacks, too. Do they really? Well, that's not going to help them. No, based on that Sex and the City, you know, Mr. Biggs. That's how he died. I didn't see that. You didn't see that he died on the Peloton in the episode.
40:48He dies in the episode, and then their stock crashed because people thought it was killing him. And they obviously had to sign off on that. I guess. That wasn't a good idea. That's a real thing, right, Mr. Biggs? I think. Can we see that? Yeah, we're pulling it up. Anyway. Oh, there he is. Oh, yeah. That's what happens when you... He married Samantha, huh? I don't know about this show Yeah What else was I going to think about Oh when you think about So I just want to make sure That we get a lot about this film And what I thought that was Yeah what did you like about it And you don't have to You don't have to You don't have to Like the movie But were you Did you know anything about Bob Dylan before or no?
41:24Nope I have Well yeah I know some of his music You know I know he was like Did your parents or your mom Listen to it? Oh yeah my mom listened to it My bad This kid I grew up with He would play it in his room Every night He had the harmonica And everything He was a big Bob Dylan fan No way my friend Ty who I used to live with who yeah I mean Bob Dylan was the first mumble rapper I mean yeah yeah yeah no man absolutely yeah whining with a backbeat absolutely everybody's like you know thinking that it was some of these other guys like Uzi Vert or maybe Kodak Black who's just a mumbler I mean at a certain point can we just say that he's great yeah he was a mumble I mean at some point he enunciated better yeah but definitely early on yeah it's gotten a little rocky I feel like it's gotten rocky recently.
42:05Which is cool, man. He might be going through some stuff, too. Who knows? Sometimes it's so hard to know what people are going through. Well, he definitely keeps it behind a screen. We don't know what's going on. Yeah. I probably said more in this interview than he said his whole life. His mythological probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be great if we had a word. A word counter. For you and Kodak. Yeah. You're like just miles ahead of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally. Dude, you could sneeze and be like seven words ahead of him, I feel like. You said it. You said it. What about some other?
42:31Well, I just want to think anything else about the film that was, was it hard to learn the music? Did you have any issues with that or how did you guys make that happen? Not really, man. I had five years to work on it. So I took guitar lessons with a great. Wait, you had five years to work on this. Wait, because you auditioned for it over a long period of time. Well, 2018, we're supposed to do it summer of 2020. Then the pandemic hit. Then I just kept working on it, kept working on it. I was supposed to do it summer of 2023. then the strike hit which is when I was coached still getting in trouble for doing my you know getting rid of my lisp I'm just kidding oh when you were meeting with that guy in the dark alleys to work on the accent yeah to work on your keeping your tongue down when you say certain vowels down with the pellet hey man you know do you work you know years ago I went to a voice coach you don't actually talk like this Your voice is actually super high When I walked in here today Theo's voice was super high I'm a Disney character And he kept doing this weird thing He'd rock back and forth Oh boy So he welcomed me He insisted that I jump on his back And get brought in here And he put me on the couch Then he assumed the character we all know That is Theo Vaughn I actually wanted him to jump on my front dude When people do front side piggybacks I've never heard of that in my life and that's when I quit playing tennis in junior high school but listen you gotta be strong enough to do that that's a good point I could probably do it to you I'm getting you out your comfort zone man you could not do a front side piggyback when we finish this you know I'm jumping on the front and anybody that can draw a picture of Timothy and me involved in front side piggybacking let me know I'll buy it from you and we'll donate$1000 to a charity of your choice And you know, can I F you after this?
44:24Like a little John Cena thing? Just for promo. It's clicks. I'll do it on this. And you land on that. You just lay somebody on this. No, I'm going to be like that and I'll suplex you on that. Right through there? Yeah, I think we should get that. It's that time of year, man. It's the holidays. Come on, it's the holidays. This is the holidays in America in 2024. Are you a big holidays guy? You know what I think It does remind me a little bit to slow down Which is nice Because life gets going pretty fast a lot of times Do you think you're more elfish or Santa? Oh it's a good question I wish I could be a little more Santa I'm more of Sometimes a little more Mrs.
45:08Claus I'll start bitching about a lot of shit About nothing I'll just get a lot of shit But I just gotta slow down It's just been a long year Yeah, you've been busy. What are you going to do for, are you going to go away or anything? Yeah, I'm going to go to Louisiana and see some family. Then I might try to take a vacation for a few days. We'll see. A little Baton Rouge? Yeah, my family lives right down there. So what about you? I'm going to be here because I've been all over the place. I'm going to New York tonight. Then I go to London and then do all this promo for the movie. Oh, you saved a promo for this movie.
45:34For how long does the promo take? Well, it's coming out on Christmas, so I'm going every day. But I love the movie. That's why, you know, that's why, shit, man, I'm trying to go as hard as possible. and you know and then fucking come back here and be with my family be with my new little niece oh you got a new niece? first one? first one let's go dude that's a crazy moment what's her name? can you bring a picture of her? we can show a picture of her I don't even think I think my sister's kept her offline you know my sister lives in a sort of like a she's with a group of people in like a forest type thing in France no way where near Ancy?
46:08yeah near near Ancy yep yeah yeah yeah in a forest No internet I'm sorry bro I'm sorry No no She's Let's check in on your sister You know let's email her a meal Let's give her a French French coupon French coupon No but she's Yeah Yeah yeah yeah No groupons in France man No groupons in France No groupons and a high property tax They have high property tax over there? Absolutely man Because it's a beautiful property Beautiful property And they don't want people just coming in You know Not Just milling around for 40 bucks a month Property tax I'm in that age now where I'll chat GBT, like, what are the most attractive low property tax places in America or around the world?
46:49Oh, yeah. One of them was my neighborhood growing up. Dude, I remember our property tax was$8 one year. My mom paid in cash, dude, right out of her purse. I was like, where do we live at? Who did she give it to? The guy that came by. Was it a legit guy, you think? He looked pretty legit. He had all of his buttons on his head. He had a hoodie that said government. He had a couple of them, yeah. She just gave me eight bucks. Oh, man. Same thing, man. I grew up in like a Mitchell-Lama. You know about Mitchell-Lama? Oh, yeah, the restaurant stars or whatever. No, no, no, no, no. Mitchell-Lama is like, there's like two, to my understanding, there's two versions of like good arts housing.
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47:54What's the ideal, you know, what does she look like both inside and out? Well, she looks like, probably looks like a nice lady, I think. Let me think about the rest of it. Probably maybe played volleyball. Maybe didn't. maybe likes to be a mom maybe I don't know dude she's looking for likes to laugh has a good sense of humor okay because people that laugh get jokes usually you can't yeah you know unless you're just something's wrong with you and you just laugh every now and then right right so like yeah could she do somersaults ooh I hope she can but I might try to be some kind of pervert or whatever you know but I wouldn't mind seeing one every now and then especially if it's holidays or whatever and she wants to you know pop off a damn bee handspring or something before everybody cuts into some lackeys or whatever i'm down for it um so yeah i think i'm open to a lot of different things i think yeah you know and like handstands and shit i mean okay i don't know what you're gonna get here blue chew baby it's that holiday season brother and you don't want that limp frickin roger hiding inside of your pants, boy, do you?
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53:04Yeah. And how are you going to get divorced if you don't get married? You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. And those are two crucial chapters of life. Is your, is your home, you know, wifeable? Not current. Is there like shit everywhere when you walk in? No. My home's organized. I got my tree up right now. Nice. You got a tree. I got a box of gifts. There's a lady that I don't even know who has sent me a box of Christmas ornaments for the past four years. Sweet. It comes every year. I put them up on the tree. And it's got a little mic and a camera in there. There's the – Yeah. She's just – Bro, that's such a good idea.
53:37Yeah. She's just watching you watch – Every Christmas it's called. It's a murder movie. It's a murder – yeah. Or it's just a movie about – it's about somebody who used to love somebody and they're watching their family now. And they send them this random box and people put it on their tree they don't know. Yeah. And it has a camera in it. And it has a camera in it. Yeah. Write it, baby. I'm not going to. We did. That's it. What do you watch on Christmas? I watch. What would the camera see you doing? Well, we're supposed to do Christmas caroling this year with a couple of fellows from the gym, actually.
54:04And so we're supposed to practice on Friday. And we just hired a cool brother over there in Nashville to help us learn some of the lyrics. You say brothers, dude. I love you say that. Oh, yeah. We're excited about it. There's all brothers going, so you got to respect the culture, man. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man. But yeah And then what are we gonna go I watched Family Man Have you ever seen that one No I've never seen Family Man With Nicolas Cage It's a great movie One of the greats Have you ever met him No man but Matchstick Men is one of my favorite movies ever Yeah You know You know Nicolas Cage man What a life But yeah I'd like to get a wife maybe What about There's kind of a love triangle in the movie Yeah Yeah yeah there's So the women's Joan Baez Joan Baez and Sylvie Russo Is Sylvie Russo, was she an artist?
54:51I couldn't tell. Yeah, she's, her real name, Suze Rotolo in real life, but the real Bob Dylan was still very protective over her. She was never really famous. So that was one of his big script notes. He said, change that name. And, you know, just, I think he felt protective over her legacy in some way. And so he had some notes about the script. Yeah, exactly. The love triangle is sort of one of the big, you know, like we do these Q &As for the movie now and people will say, was Bob, was his behavior, towards the people that he was in a relationship with in his life, you know, it's definitely complicated.
55:24But my answer is always he was focused on his art first and foremost. Also, this movie is about people in their early 20s. You don't really have life figured out, especially in relationship then. Yeah. Stuff is a mess at that age. So he was kind of between these two women in the movie and Joan Baez is a musician and artist, ambitious the way Bob would have been, and Sylvie is really the more grounded character. I think what Elle Fanning does in the movie is incredible. You kind of see the movie through her eyes because she's not one of these famous musicians. She's really just a real person and is deeply affected.
55:54Yes, she was very affected by Dylan and her character was. That was interesting to see. And the things that pulled... Well, she's the only person in the movie that doesn't have a transactional relationship with him. Really loves him for who he is. And, you know, that was our theory. You know, I never talked to Bob Dylan, but I feel like that's why I think he's still fond of that relationship and private about it because if maybe the rest of his life could be confusing, I don't want to speak for him, but confusing about who's being genuine with me and who's not. She was always the clear day one.
56:23Clear candidate. Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I found like when I was watching it, yeah, you're kind of rooting. It's weird because who you're rooting for changes almost from scene to scene in the movie. Yeah. Yeah, no one's like a great – besides Elle Fanning, everyone comes off a little – Real. Yeah, hopefully, yeah. Like flawed, but like in a human way. flawed in a human way and a little especially in your early 20s man you're trying to figure out your life oh yeah dude they don't even yeah were you a saint in your early 20s dude no i was i mean i was a saints fan i'm a new orleans fan but i was not uh i was not you're at the game like bucket i mean i had on maybe a you know i might have had on a drew breeze jersey on your 16th miller light dude yeah that's for sure that was um but no yeah it's like yeah how do you even get start to get things figured out um but that's one thing that i liked about it i like seeing the different and i like that there was like okay what's this relationship like over here gonna happen what's this relationship like over here gonna happen and then just seeing like i did get a better idea of like oh okay bob dylan was just kind of like affected dude that he kind of was maybe better than he thought he was or or he was actually so great and they tried to manipulate him It was just all so confusing, you know, like, and I think it was confusing to him and it was like, exactly.
57:48It was, it was, it was just a lot going on and he seemed like a unique person and probably like a secretly sensitive guy. And so for all those things to happen, you know, so quick to him and then for him to try to figure it out and navigate what was real. I don't know. Man, exactly. And that's something I can relate to, not, not in the relationships necessarily in my life, but you know, you feel like your career gets going. I don't know how you feel about that. and you want to protect your energy and but you still want to have close friendships and relationships but at first it's a very hard thing to navigate particularly if you want to keep writing like Bob Dylan and like you said he was genuinely great at it he had a gift from God at that point in his career he said it in an Ed Bradley interview in 2004 he's like I feel like God was writing through me and he says in the interview I can't do it anymore he almost says it like he misses it yeah it's a beautiful moment in this Ed Bradley interview he just he says like I can't do it anymore I don't know how those words were coming to me and I feel like musicians even more than actors I feel like an actor into your 30s and 40s and 50s as your face ages you can keep doing great work and the gravitas of your life lives on your face you know what I mean?
58:55so the more you learn in life the more abilities you're going to have yeah and the more trauma you go through and I feel like as a musician you can still do great shit but it's really like a young man's game yeah because you have to do all that touring and stuff as well. Yeah, it beats you up. For you, the movie kind of tours for you. Exactly. You know, I love, you know, it's funny. We do these Q &As. So I get the backstage experience. Holy shit, I'm coming out, man. Fuck, they're going to say my name out loud. I'm all excited. And I come out. And then as opposed to a rock star, I fucking sit in a chair.
59:22Oh, yeah. And I answer my questions. Like, watch this. And I sit down. And I try to give poised answers. And just make sure your posture's okay the whole time. Dude, it's humiliating. Posture rocking in the house tonight? That shit is so hard to deal with, dude. Because I'll be backstage and you hear the crowd like, Timothy, shaman yeah and then i fucking take my seat yeah yeah and then i'm poised yeah you're like let's go and i sit down dude it's humiliating it's like it's very anti uh i don't know what the word is but somebody else probably knows it but yeah i don't know it but um yeah dude i you know what though i think it was i do think that it was interesting if you frame it up like this is what it is it's a it's a it's a few years in a man's life that was a very interesting man who's probably written so many songs that some young people don't even know that he wrote yeah exactly i was listening i was like no way he wrote that and like um just some relationships that he had with other artists that you may not even know about and sort of the first guy for me in american pop culture that said i'm gonna do whatever the fuck i want and that was a good point yeah and that was like sort of blasphemous like every artist through the last 30 40 50 years that uh a lot of whom you can't shout out because they they've basically they've basically burned so many bridges but um bob dylan was the first.
1:00:33He just wouldn't take no for an answer. He just was fired up about his art. And his perception. No, I don't think it sounds like anything. Yeah, but it doesn't sound corny because he really didn't give a fuck. And it's that to me was really refreshing to work on. You know, now we live in a time where it's not only, not only is it hard to be rebellious about your art, but it's as much about the Coliseum's reaction. You know, you think about a clip you like online or something you like or don't like, the first thing you do is you go to the comments. It's as much about how people are reacting you know what I'm saying, as it is about the actual thing.
1:01:01Right. So in some ways it's harder now. It's kind of harder now. Because not only do you have to manage what you present, but do you have to manage also how, what, I don't know. No, no, but yeah, I was just trying to say, and also to avoid that, that's kind of what I'm doing these days, man. You just got to like, you have to bury your head so far. Even like the pictures from the premiere, I'm just like, you know, I just try to put the shutters on. Because it's not healthy, man. Oh, looking at all your stuff and looking at that? Yeah, you know. No, it's weird. It's fucking weird. And then, you know.
1:01:27And you're not supposed to do it. no we're supposed to be you know like gathering nuts and berries no that's not like i'm gonna know they had that first guy narcissus or whatever looked in the river and saw himself yeah yeah exactly and then he's like hey where are the ladies at or whatever you're like whoa dude what are you talking about dude you're not even that good looking yeah kill a rabbit dude yeah we are our tribe needs to eat make a salad bro yeah we got yeah yeah we got people to feed we have 17 people and our elder is fucking suffering like you're over here like trying to start Claire Claire all or whatever yeah exactly fucking working on your you know um yeah it's like just a bunch of Dior moisturizer talking about lip filler to everybody like what are you even talking about dude it's 300 BC what does that even mean stop working on your Raya profile and fucking help us with the fire we need to put out in the forest you narcissistic prick yeah dude What are you talking about?
1:02:19I have no fucking clue. No clue. What about other... Because you can only do so many biopics, too. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of weird. You burned a biopic. I burned a biopic, man. Is it biopic? We don't know. I don't know. I burned a biopic, and I got to go back in three months, and I got to check if it's still there. No, you're right. I can only do so many, especially music ones. I'll be honest. What are some other ones you think? I have a couple. Listen, man. Oh, ideas? No, you go first. Okay. That I could do or you could do? I don't know if I keep talking people really like why do you sit with him and just talk the whole time so we gotta get you to say something bro no I mean well I'm trying to think of ones you could do um you could do um I know I could do maybe you could do a Brad Pitt biopic you know what I'm saying put a little right there come on put a little sprinkle on it put a little sprinkle on it no maybe if like uh maybe a Brad Pitt like was stranded somewhere like you know maybe like a hitchhiker something.
1:03:15No, but you could, um... You could do... Would you ever do Mabu, you think? Little Mabu? Oh, my God, dude. That is fucking funny. That's an alternate time. I'm him in an alternate timeline. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Because, you know, I used to... Well, you know, there's two ways you could have gone. That's what we like to say a lot of times. Yeah. That's me in an alternate timeline. I love him, bro. I don't know enough about him. I know he's from New York, though. You're right. You know, it's a great point. I don't fucking know if I like him. He could be a dirtball. but I like some of his energy some of his shit is pretty hot it's very Bob Dylan man just be who you want to be that's a good point fuck it that's how I do feel about him it's like oh I feel like I feel like he's kind of unique he kind of reminds me of like an Eminem like when Eminem kind of like he reminds me of like how Eminem was just unique in his time period maybe I'll do a little Mabu biopic I don't know what it's about I wonder what the tragedy of his life is that's a good point it could be some crypto failure yeah he launched Mabu coin oh he's gonna be so fast at us dude man bro sorry no dude no I don't know him I mean, he's clearly killing it.
1:04:08Yeah. If he wasn't killing it, we wouldn't be talking about him. That's a good point. Oh, I think he's just, he's definitely super entertaining. Yeah. And we're just joking around. And he started that conservation fund for that thing. I'm sorry. Oh, you're good, bro. Dude, you should be a politician, dude. You're good. I was acting. But what, or that, or maybe Abraham Lincoln's son or whatever. I could be Abraham Lincoln, me or you. You. Abraham Lincoln's son? Who was Abraham Lincoln's son? Dave Lincoln. That's a ridiculous idea. It was Dave Lincoln. Was it? Dave Lincoln. Was it really? Or Ricky Lincoln?
1:04:45Who was his son?
1:04:50Tad Lincoln. Oh my god. Yeah. Go to his information. Let's see him. Wow. Dude, you could be Tad Lincoln. The fourth son of Abraham Lincoln. What was his born with a cleft lip and palate? I'll work with Tim Monick. We were talking about earlier. I'll work with Tim Monick on it, you know, and hopefully there's no strike. And imagine his father gave some of the greatest speeches, and here he is. And he has this kind of like a little bit of a disfigurement or some impairment. And he's like, how do I overcome this to say something as important that my father said? Did he ever? Did he ever? We could change it.
1:05:22We could just give him the speech. They were considered notorious hellions, him and his brother Willie. He was sick a lot. He got typhoid. A lot of people were getting sick back then. Yeah, easily. You caught a Frisbee that was dirty, and you were down for two months. He went to see Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp. Oh, wow. On April 14th, 1865, Tad went to Grover's Theater to play Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp while his parents attended the performance of Tom Taylor's play, Our American Cousin, at Ford's Theater. That night, his father was assassinated. Wow, so he was at— That could be my big scene.
1:05:52Yeah. Pa's dead. And you finally run up to him as he's— Yeah. And you say something super important. Who's playing Abraham Lincoln? Huh? Who's playing Lincoln? I don't know. We've got to get somebody good. Pa's dead. I can hardly believe that. I shall never see him. This is some heavy shit. After the assassination, Mary Robert and Tad lived together in Chicago. Oh, he died at 18, dude. I can't. Come on. Oh. Holy shit. Tuberculosis. Well, this was a waste of pitch. A pleuristic attack. This is a waste of a pitch right here. And congestive heart failure. You could do it, man. Yeah, yeah. I think you could do it.
1:06:22Yeah, though. Age me down a little bit. Or Jim Carrey. I think I could see you playing a Jim Carrey one day, too. I was thinking about that. He's brilliant, dude. I mean. He's so brilliant. Yeah. He, uh. Have you seen his, have you seen his, he went to some fashion event in like 2018, 2019. You see this red carpet interview. It's the biggest not give a fuck interview of all time. Yeah, if we have enough time, we should add 20 minutes to this anyway if we can. This is, this is the greatest. He looks so dropped into being himself. Yeah. I've covered a lot of fashion weeks. This is the first time I've run in to Jim Carrey.
1:06:52Wait. Controlling the room. Is it true you're wandering the streets? You need a date to the party? What's up? No, no, no. I'm doing just fine. I just, you know, there's no meaning to any of this. So I wanted to find the most meaningless thing that I could come to and join. And here I am. I mean, you've got to admit it's completely meaningless. Well, they say they're celebrating icons inside. Celebrating icons. Boy, that is just the absolute lowest aiming, you know, possibility that we could come up with. It's like icons. Do you believe in icons? I don't believe in personalities. I don't believe that you exist, but there is a wonderful fragrance in the air.
1:07:34You don't believe certain icons have a personality? Even when she doesn't exist, he's still trying to flirt. That's the best part. Fire others? Artistry? You're one of them. On the good foot. Ha! He's like, you're invisible, but let's smash. No, no. Yeah, no, I don't believe in icons. That's good, man. I don't believe in personalities. That's good. Yeah. That would be an interesting guy to play Because that's really cool That's a cool scene to play If you could do that Yeah And I think he had a crazy life Yeah what his life was like Yeah I mean he was the biggest Biggest Bigger than anything Bigger than anything right In the 2000s Oh Yeah And he had a show called In Living Color before that That was like Jamie Foxx was on it Yeah he was like the only white guy on it Yeah Right It was him Yeah and they had a Now he's become an artist Yeah now he's an artist But it's just interesting To get all the art out of your system You know Because some artists I think that's kind of what he I think that's what he feels like I saw an interview with him today Sonic the Hedgehog they said why'd you do this he said for the money what a life because when Bruce Almighty was coming on I mean really he was like the biggest oh yeah wow what about do you feel like you have to be like because you're kind of like the the it guy like the it younger guy in Hollywood for sure for sure you know but does that feel like i don't know and i know it's like do you how do you and a lot of that is a lot of times curtailed by like the industry like you're yeah like you have a pretty like i thought you'd come with like in a tank or something like you drove over here by yourself yeah yeah so definitely um kind of i guess maybe against what i was thinking which doesn't mean anything um but do you worry about how do you still be yourself and find yourself at a time when you could be so maneuvered by so many bigger pressers.
1:09:18Listen, man, not to bring it back to the movie, but that's where Bob Dylan's so influential. No, this is perfect. No, because Bob always followed his path. And what's interesting about the movie industry, as opposed to the music industry, the music industry, you write your own music, you know, and it's direct to the consumer in some sense. Like, you do whatever the fuck you want, and if people are vibing with it, you'll know. In the movie industry, you do kind of have to, you've got to be reliable. A musician, you show up whenever you want. They could be rock stars show four hours late. If you're three hours late to a movie, they got to call insurance.
1:09:47You cost a million dollars. Now you'll never work again. So there's a part of the job that's obedient in a sense. But the best art and the best shit we see is stuff that, you know, people showed up for people showed up. But also where they broke rules in a sense. You know, I was just talking to you. Oh, yeah. And so it's a fine line. And I look at it like this. This is my inner Tom Cruise where I want movies to be seen. And I don't want to live an unobedient life, but I also want at a time where maybe Hollywood or movie makers got a perception of like sometimes being out of touch or something or definitely like awards type movies.
1:10:29I want especially a movie about Bob Dylan. I want in all the movies I work on. That's why I did Dune. That's why I did Wonka. And I'm proud that those movies, I know I'm not supposed to pat myself on the back, but those movies were big, you know, like in the movie industry or the movie business, brick and mortar theaters. they don't do the business they once did. Some of that's inevitable because of streaming, but I want to put my best foot forward. You got to give back to the industry that I gave to you. That's really my MO. And that's why I'm here.
1:10:59Otherwise, that's why you can't be the reclusive figure that Bob Dylan or Daniel Day-Lewis or these guys were. Because it's not about the bottom line, but the attention isn't guaranteed the way it used to be. You know what I mean? I hope this doesn't sound like too inside baseball. I want inside baseball. I'll just, you know, you're like a real thinker, you know, so it's not like you're going to give some answer that isn't traveling through your thoughts and you explaining stuff. Yeah. So that's perfect. There's no wrong way to answer it. It's a weird thing. It's like, yeah. And then. Also, I had a full ass real life before my career took off, like in the East Village in New York.
1:11:31So not that my life isn't real now, but like obviously on these press tours and stuff, the days are micromanaged in some way. But, man, here's the thing. That's another thing I say As a musician Or as a pop star Whatever Your music can be about Your erosion of humanity Like It could be about Hey I'm driving this car And this is the crazy lifestyle But if you're an actor If you lose your sense of humanity If you lose Your stink For lack of a better word People will see that on screen You do see it on screen Oh you seem too fancy You seem out of touch Well people are gonna know That's why the Safdie movie I just did Man he put me He put me through the ringer Really?
1:12:06Oh yeah I felt like he was testing me Early on What does that mean? so a director can kind of put you through some fucking shit? Yeah, look, Josh knew me since I was 21. Josh Safdie? Safdie, before I was 21. Uncut Gems, that's that movie, right? Yeah, Uncut Gems. That's one of the best movies. There you go, man, and Good Time. You know, Good Time with Robert Pattinson he directed too. I haven't seen that. I'm saving Robert Pattinson for later. Yeah, for sure, for sure. But, you know, like early on we had stuff that could have been stunt guys on this movie, on Marty Supreme, and I saw him wanting me to do it.
1:12:39Part of me is like, this feels like a test, you know? And I wanted to show him. And now I feel like I've emerged from the other side with no broken bones or whatever. Thank God. And Josh, I know I'm supposed to be talking about the Bob Dylan movie, but Josh is like - It's all you acting. Yeah. Yeah. Josh is the real deal, man. And seriously, like Josh Savvy, he's like the modern day Scorsese. Dang, I want to meet that guy. Oh, dude, you would love him. That's him? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to meet him. Yeah. He could play Abraham Lincoln. He could play Abraham Lincoln. And you play Tad Lincoln.
1:13:08I could play Chad Lincoln. Tell him right now. His brother's an actor, Benny. You ever see, you saw the Nathan Fielder show with Emma Stone on Showtime? No? Yeah, yeah. That's his brother. I've seen Nathan Fielder's show. Yeah. Wow, that's cool. Yeah, yeah. Wow, that must have been awesome, man. Because that guy, that uncut Jim's is so good. I look forward to seeing that. Yeah, this is a crazy, crazy fucking movie. So directors can do that. So sometimes it's like that. It's going to be a journey. It's going to be a journey, yeah. What was the biggest journey through the unknown? unknown I just want to get the name of it right A Complete Unknown Christmas Day what was leave it like that what was the biggest journey through A Complete Unknown on Christmas Day yeah it's kind of just Christmas it's only on Christmas you can see it it comes out on Christmas Day biggest journey was the music and the voice and also I've never had my phone off the entire movie I had three months I had three months to play this guy and the rest of my life I never get to play him again so I was locked in And also, you're never supposed to say you're competitive, but I want, you know, there's been a lot of music biopics.
1:14:13Yeah. And I wanted to do a great fucking job, man. I love Bob Dylan. I love this artist. None of this is for granted. This little misconception about actors too and acting, you can have a cushy job on a TV show. If you don't give a fuck about your work, it could be a great lifestyle, right? You're making like high six figures, maybe low seven figures, and you're just showing up when you want. if you give a fuck about what you're doing these are these are long ass days you know i mean these are 14 hour days six days a week sometimes you know three months look i know i know people got it way harder but i want to feel that grit you know i want to feel it you know i hope people don't laugh at it i fucking really i feel like i'm the hardest working man um anyway maybe i shouldn't say that but uh but you respect what you do yeah because you got to what else is the point i talk about this with friends a lot like this is too weird a lifestyle to be nonchalant about.
1:15:02Yeah. Why do this? Yeah. If you're not going to go as hard as possible. Yeah. On Marty Supreme, I'm wearing contacts because he wanted my eyes to be little. So he gives me real glasses that fuck my eyes up and I'm wearing contacts underneath to offset what the glasses are doing. And my vision was, my vision was basically fucked up until a day ago. Every time I took these glasses off, my vision was skewed. Wow. You know? You're like the Forrest Gump of sight or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right. Sort of. Dude, Forrest Gump is, uh, we had the Forrest Gump ping pong coaches. Same. Lovely couple in LA, Diego and Wei.
1:15:37Been married 40 years. Wei is a Chinese ping pong champion. Nuh-uh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the 80s. She pretty cool? She was, she's like, we would train. Yeah, Wei. Wei Li, there she is. There she is. Marty Supreme. That's my ping pong coach. You know, we'd train for three hours, and then she'd say, let's play for real. And she's like, she's probably like 97 pounds. She's like 5 '1", and she's just like, yeah. Unbelievable. you're not getting a point across. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's beautiful. A little bit of that. Do you, yeah, did you have to, so your phone was off for that long, so you just locked in, and what would you do to just go to, do you sleep on set, or what do you do?
1:16:12What's that like? I sleep on set, and you know, method acting, that gets like a bad rap. People think it's just like a person being a prick and obliging everyone around them to subscribe to a reality that's not real. The thing I came up with, I call it, Oh, dude. That's just everybody's stepdad as well. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, that's method acting. I need a bear. Yeah, exactly. Damn it! Give me that goddamn Miller Lite! I call it method energy because you know, you'd shit on me too if I'm coming off like a dick, but you know, I just tried to no cell phones, nothing that reminds you of the present and try to treat it like Bob Dylan as much as possible, especially if you're playing somebody that iconic.
1:16:54That was tough too. He didn't feel like an icon when he was himself. he was just living his fucking life so if you talk to too many people that uh you gotta avoid earworms oh you know somebody putting something in your head that's that's in there yeah that's why edward norton i love him he's great pete seager in the movie but he's like edward noren is a little bit his character in the movie birdman if you ever saw that he's like a very confident opinionated actor so i would kind of have to you know and then he caught me watching rounders one day oh yeah and then he then then it was over then he knew he had me that's like yeah if you're watching another movie that some guys in.
1:17:26Oh, you like rounders? And I was like, alright, now we're going to talk. Hold me for a second. That's a lot. I'm still jumping on you at the end of this. Get ready. As long as it's on the front, brother. Yeah, get ready. Get ready. Get ready. I'm getting you at your comfort zone. I've been out of my comfort zone since I was born. Alright, fair. Fair, fair. Yeah, I never subscribed to it. I never got the keys. You know the code they give you in high school to your locker Yeah you never got that I remember going up to my comfort zone and being like What's the most comfortable you've ever felt in your life What's a great question the most comfortable Like most in your body no drugs no alcohol Probably after like a sauna and ice bath type of thing Oh you do ice baths Yeah yeah I'll get in there dude Oh yeah I'll freaking just I'll lay in a polar bear's ass Brother I like it like that Oh yeah I like it just brisk like that you know I love that Would you go to the arctic Oh, yeah, I would go up there.
1:18:24Mr. Beast just went up there. He went to Antarctica. Whoa. I don't know what he, but he said there was nothing up there. There's not even like, you can't be like, hey, let's go somewhere. And like, no, you can't. I don't get how that stuff works, man. Where does he get, where does he get the money? He's just. He's just huge, huh? I guess. He just has a lot of just expendable income to be that guy, you know? That's the other thing, like, where I want to be humble about putting movies out there. People's attention is elsewhere now. It's quick. Yeah. Yeah, and you've got to convince someone to see a complete unknown on Christmas Day and take the$15 or$20 or whatever the fuck it is now.
1:18:57And instead of watching, you know, Mr. Beast in the Arctic. Well, Mr. Beast has a show actually that comes out right before that, like a week before, but he was just on here. And it's interesting, yeah. And it's an interesting show. Totally different, though. But one thing that's great about your movie is that, first of all, you also just, in addition to whatever's going on with the movie, you get to hear, like, great music. Yeah, it's great music. Great music You get to remember Woody Guthrie Who played Woody Guthrie in it? Scoot McNary, he's amazing Pull a picture of Scoot McNary Get a look at him before something happens to him And he doesn't have a line in the movie He doesn't have a line Because he's so sick Because he's so sick That was pretty awesome We had Bernie Sanders on He said Pete Seeger was one of his favorite musicians Scoot McNary could play Bernie Sanders in a biopic Totally could dude you could play Ronald Reagan son Ricky Reagan or whatever is that a real guy is that a real guy probably dude Bernie Bernie hasn't aged nah Bernie still looks the same he's the best dude he's looked the same in the last yeah he's like a real folk hero that's a great point yeah Bernie is he is a folk hero yeah he's folk music yeah and you also forget about like what yeah I mean that's another thing about the movie you see the challenge of Bob Dylan like take on like music and culture there's this whole other cultural thing that's kind of happening in the background like on the television and the news during the movie it was a crazy time it was like the it was the it's a cool piece of life it was a cool piece of life the 60s were a cool time when you get out of it all and it's done i was beat on this one were you yeah what does that really look like a break do you go to like a beach and just no another thing another misconception about movies like as opposed to the academic year it kind of winds down you're never winding down in a movie you're doing 14 hour days and you go off a cliff then it's done you know in other words you don't you don't you don't relax towards the towards the end like it you know we were doing a very important scene and it was done forever you know and uh yeah i guess i relaxed a little bit i went on vacation but i was beat i've been working i was working on this for five years this was like um this was like this was as important to me as you going to the parking lot and spying on the on the on the swim team of liftscomb college nothing to see here exactly i'm just recruiting guys recruiting production assistants but um but uh do you uh so it was what do you think you would have done it more justice five years earlier no absolutely not also because i had the experience in my life where i would do interviews and you know it's a scary time to come up with the internet and stuff you know you want to get it right and bob dylan his early press conferences he was confrontational he was basically a dick and i thought there was something really inspiring about that not not that i ever wanted to be like that but i just thought it's so different than how people are now yeah were you were you right you're just automatically cordial you just assume like Well, you got to be, man.
1:21:39A, I am not a pretty cordial guy. But B, God forbid. You don't want to be a fool. Anyway, but these early press conferences, if you're tremendously bored and not watching Mr. B stuff, watch the early Bob Dylan San Francisco press conferences. And I just thought, so anyway, five years working on it, I got a better sense on the other side of it. Oh, this is why he would have carried himself like that. He had some wherewithal I didn't have in his early 20s where somebody said, how do you do it? he goes basically didn't want to tell anyone you know me maybe because uh whatever the acting bone somebody says how do you do it and you you're so desperate for that pat on your back and you go this is how I did it you know yeah yeah I just wonder yeah and you get more experience that you can put into something like you were saying earlier about acting like you can keep doing it for a long time you know exactly um you know can we hear any Bob is that a weird thing to ask you dude is that lame like like live right now I'll try it go for it
1:22:40Hold on Let me try one time Hey who is there Hold on I gotta give it Get into it man get into it Hey who's at the door That's horrible That was pretty good You got the nasality down You got the nasality You're verbifying things That's what Bob Dylan did He just made shit up That was good man He verbified things didn't he I don't think I'm trying to think who your music biopic would be still. It might have to be What about Chet Baker? I would do Chet Baker. Chet Baker or Chet Hanks even. You should do that Chet Hanks biopic, dude. That would be unbelievable. That's a glitch in the system. Yeah, it's all everything is.
1:23:22Yeah, everything's a glitch, dude. Jon Bon Jovi, it could be anybody. Chet has a new country album that's going to come out this year, too, I think. Dude, you got to play Chet. Also, it'd be a great excuse to get shredded. I would just do it for the head Just do it for that They'll set you up With the best trainers You get the HGH I could do it man I'm trying to think If there's anything else That we want to ask Or anything else That you wanted to say Timothy Oh man No just thanks for having me on I'm trying to think I think we kind of Covered a lot of new stuff I think we covered it all man Yeah I gotta water my plants dude I just got home Wait you have a place in LA?
1:23:53Yeah I still have an apartment Oh you do Is it here? Over in Westwood In Westwood I love Westwood And so yeah I get my plants Diddy Reese? And I forget Yeah I go over there sometimes i go walk over there and sometimes i would go for that and i would just end up getting a bunch of vapes and just sitting over my car but um i uh yeah i would get i just sometimes i forget to wash my plant what i forget to water my plants you know and then i get home and it's been like a month or something your place is ready to be wife-ified man i know and i'll always water them i'll be like your mother your mother left us i'll yell shit like that i'll be like your mother left to who to the plants i'll just make i'll like blame it on their like imaginary mother or whatever i was like we would have been fine but they're she left and i'm just pouring water punishment is the water no the water is there i'm giving them the water but it would have been they'd have been watered every day if their mother oh if their mother had left so you're bringing out the resentment on the plant she left us anyway who's the mother poison ivy it's just it's just a fictional woman it's a fictional woman yeah i feel like the next time we talk if you had me back on i feel like you're gonna be a year and a half into a beautiful marriage and a recent father and um and you will have you will have um you'll have a subaru oh but i'll take you know what if the family comes with that and that's what it takes i'll do it all right you know i'll do that and um and i appreciate it timothy chalamet thanks for all the neat acting man thanks for that thanks for the movie about the drug about um the young man struggling with drugs thanks for the movie About Bob Dylan And just thanks for sharing Like what it takes The commitment that it does take Because I do feel that from you I appreciate it I do feel that The commitment that it really takes If you really want to Take this opportunity And make the most of it In your life, you know Exactly Like you're doing I see you doing You know So You just gotta go hard Amen, brother Christmas Day The movie comes out You can go watch it in the theaters With your family over the holidays Perfect Perfect family movie Will it be in theaters, yeah?
1:25:50It'll be in theaters On Christmas Day A complete unknown Super proud of this man You should be man Congratulations brother Thanks for letting me talk about it bro Yep That was fun man Thank you man Holy shit That wasn't as ground as I'm sorry Yeah That's front side I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take...
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Timothée Chalamet is an award-winning actor known for his roles in movies like Dune, Wonka, A Beautiful Boy, and more. His new movie “A Complete Unknown” where he plays Bob Dylan is in theaters 12/25.
Timothée Chalamet joins Theo to talk about transforming into Bob Dylan (and singing like him) in his new movie, what his life was like growing up in NYC before the fame, and how he goes about choosing which movies to get involved with.
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