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36:22And I am the

36:26guy who's leading my vessel or whatever. Doing my best. That is kind of what it is. There's a lot of that, right? You're in a war of choices. You're in a war of decisions. You're in a war of good behavior and detrimental and destructive behavior. I mean, especially guys like you that have gone through periods of addiction you know that's always a war of temptation in your mind there's always going to be that there there's always going to be smelling salts oh i'll hit it there's always going to be smelling salts to bring you this is this is the dark road this is everybody wants to talk about gateway drugs oh don't you bring out a new one you son of a you got this one's strong I'm not strong enough Jamie.

37:13Let's check. Is that strawberry? Let's make sure this one's strong. No. I'm trying to find flavored ones. The thing is, they're so scary when they bring the new ones out. Like, I'm scared of the new ones. Oh, this one's so strong. Oh my god, this is so strong. Bro, I can already feel a little of that. God! You know what the difference is, Jamie? You know what the difference is? This one, I kept this on it. I didn't even realize I was doing it, but I kept that on it and that it was sealed. I'll lay on my back in 69 this thing, brother. It's already going to be strong, Joe. Quiet. Don't look at me when I do it.

37:48Hit it. Hit it. I didn't get enough. You didn't get enough. Nope. Hold on. You didn't inhale. You got scared. You missed. You're right. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. No. No. You don't do that. You don't do that. You just did scared everywhere. Take a break. I'm sweating. I'm sweating, too. Because of that. Sorry. How are you? Are you okay? Bro, you just changed timelines. Because of you, Justin Trudeau resigned. Because of that. Give me another hit. Before that, before you did that, it was a different timeline. Trump didn't win. Trudeau didn't resign. Mark Zuckerberg didn't start doing jiu-jitsu. That's part of what happened.

38:32By the way, I'll tell you for a fact, Mark Zuckerberg started doing jiu-jitsu and nothing turns you into a libertarian like jiu-jitsu. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, nothing turns you into a person who like really values hard work and discipline and struggle like jujitsu. Huh. Because exposure of character on a level that like there's nothing else is like it. Wow. I hadn't thought about that that much. Yeah, because you expose character in a way that it's almost impossible even with other martial arts. Because with other martial arts, you can only spar so much, man. Believe me, because I spar too much.

39:10You spar a lot. You get hurt and you get hurt eventually you get dinged up at the point where your brain is just not firing so well anymore mm-hmm like I was reading this horrible story where they're talking about Parkinson's and Muhammad Ali's daughter was talking about how she remembers when she was young when he fought Leon Spinks the second time She could tell afterwards that he talked different. Oh You know It's got to be tough for a kid, huh? And you probably pretend that he doesn't Because you don't want to hurt his feelings or whatever Well, you must be so scared If you're a kid and your father is a fighter That has to be so terrifying Yeah Especially watching I've seen people that bring their kids to a fight And then they get flatlined And you see the terror in the kid's eyes Where their father is fucking laid out unconscious Bleeding from his mouth A doctor's holding his head up And his feet are twitching Yeah Yeah, and sometimes the kid doesn't even know if the dad won or not.

40:08He's still cheering, and you're like, this doesn't even make any sense. This kid is crazy. Well, that kid might have other problems. That kid might be already sparring already. They might have that kid sparring young. There's an argument for sparring young because you can't hurt each other. Oh, yeah. Sometimes I'll see reels on the internet, on social media of kids that are young sparring. It's really funny. Sometimes they don't know what to do. Well, as long as they learn control. They've got to learn control. But if they learn control when they're young and they learn not to hit each other hard, but just to do it fast And they can get so good because they don't hurt each other the way adults hurt each other Yeah, like once you get to be like a hundred and seventy pounds man You can generate a lot of force and so if you're sparring hard with another guy It's a hundred and seventy pounds you're blasting each other in the face and the legs and the body It's like oh god you do so much damage Yeah, so much damage, but little kids don't do that kind of damage They just slap each other a little pat pat pat.

41:00They just tap each other It's like a good way to learn. Oh if I could go back and be a kid So you do I mean I would slay out cuz you if you could go back in time being a kid think of all the stuff You would do well, let me tell you this if you were 90 years old right now Yeah, if I go back in time I was 44 and limber it's true, huh? That's what you'd do back time Theo Vaughn 2025 oh my god I should have taken jujitsu back then I could have been a badass in 10 years If you take jujitsu right now by 54 you could be a black belt you think I could 100 % yeah, you're an addict All you have to do is get addicted to jujitsu.

41:33Yeah, that's what happens a lot of addicts they get addicted to running Come marathon runners like my friend John Joseph. He became an Ironman guy just started doing Ironman What about Goggins it was he did he ever suffer with addiction? I don't know if you did or not. Oh, yeah, that's right, huh? Yeah, I think we all have that What um I get sugar sometimes I'll uh Sugar's a good one. God. I just want something. Look at that Gatorade. Is that a sugar-free Gatorade or a regular? I told him to get sugar-free. Zero. I asked him to get sugar-free. You want a little bit of it? No. Yeah. You want a taste of this whiskey?

42:03You want a gram of this shit? Dude, I would get so, I've just been getting so dehydrated. First of all, why is dehydration more of a thing now? Dude, when I was growing up, nobody was like, are you dehydrated? That's why this is important. If you're going to listen, you got to listen to both podcasts. Listen to that one first. Because we started talking about dehydration, but then you got, I think you started talking about zebras or something. I did? Yeah, you went off in a different direction. No, you went off in a different direction, dude. He started talking about bombs and aliens. You haven't met you, dude.

42:35I got to introduce you to you. You're going to be intrigued. I'd be fascinated. But no, I think... What was I saying? Hydration is important, though. That's why electrolytes. Electrolytes are important. Why is it a big thing now? You remember saying years ago, nobody was like... Ten years ago, nobody was like... People were like, yeah, stay hydrated. But nobody was like... There wasn't this big crazy thing about it. Well, there was once they figured out Gatorade. So do you know what the original Gatorade ingredients were? It was like citrus juice, like lemon juice, salt, sugar, and water, I believe.

43:10Pull that up. So this was a criticism that someone was bringing up on one of them Instagram reels. And they were talking about the original Gatorade versus the Gatorade that they have now with all these crazy dyes and the color blue and all these fucking, all the weird shit. Like Gatorade didn't used to be like that. Gatorade was just like a hydration drink that was pretty fucking good pretty fucking good yeah like hydration drinks are legit Electrolytes that's a legit thing. You know, you really do need you need Sodium you need magnesium you need you need a trace minerals Yeah, all that stuff's fucking really good for you.

43:43And when you sweat a lot it helps to replenish it in your body Do you think um? Do you believe in that hydrogen water stuff where you like you charge water? Yeah, it's legit. It is yeah I thought I'd drink it like right after you make it The original Gatorade invented in 1965 by UF's Is that University of Florida? Yeah Robert Cade consisted of glucose, sodium, potassium, and water That's it So sodium, potassium, water, and some sugar The same formula we use for oral rehydration in cholera It worked, but it tasted like tiger piss Then Pepsi bought Gatorade and Michael Jordan sweetened it with high fructose corn syrup And voila!

44:22Ha! Michael Jordan brought us into the high fructose corn syrup maze. It was it. Yeah, I remember. He was the best ever. Who's done better with sneakers than that guy? Nobody. Jordans, it became a thing. But I'm saying it became a thing. Like, it's a part of a brand that's a huge brand, and it's bigger than the brand. Yeah. Jordans are bigger than Nikes. Like, if you have Nikes on, that's one thing. If you have Jordans on, like, oh, he's got Jordans on. That's wild, huh? The Theo Vons wearing Jordans. Look at that. Yeah. I've never been a big shoe guy, really. I got these jelly roll shoes on he gave me.

44:53Oh those are tight. These are like hey dudes are called Oh, yeah, I got a pair of those but they're men. They're really men slippers and it's some of something about it Yeah, in slippers. It's like what are you gonna do if you have to fight? Not put these on and go out on the porch

45:09Theo scrapping on the porch by the way, I've seen more fistfights online over the last three years than I have in my entire life Yeah, my entire life of actually seeing street fights my entire life of being out in comedy clubs and nightclubs and bars and seeing street fights I've seen more in the last three years than all that combined. Do you feel like we get a Unrealistic view of reality because of all the stuff that we see online you do yeah But if you don't go and see an actual bar fight, you don't know reality Like I remember I was 21 years old. I was in Boston I went to this bar and I saw this dude break a Heineken bottle on this dude's face I don't remember what they were arguing about the dude did it so quickly out of nowhere His first move was break a Heineken bottle on this guy's face and just cut this guy's face wide open It was blood was pouring down his face.

46:02I was like that is crazy And I was as close to that guy is as I am to Jamie. It was it was right there at the bar I watched it all go down. I was like that's and it put in my head Don't ever talk shit to somebody at a bar. De-escalate always. Too many weapons around. There's people out there that will just break a fucking bottle over your face. Especially if you threaten them. I don't know what that guy said. I don't know what happened. I just saw the act of the guy. I heard loud arguing and then smash. And did the guy make a sound when he hit him or anything like that? I don't remember. I just remember blood.

46:37The blood was instant. It just gushed down his face. I mean, this guy got ruined for life. He has a giant scar on his face for the rest of his life for sure. There's no way he doesn't it was just His whole face blood Did you fuck with people man? Oh, yeah, I'm not fucking with anybody I know you don't but I don't for everybody else listening don't fuck with people Yeah, especially if you're at a bar too shit is wet that I don't I don't like to be in places where people are real Drunk because shit can get too weird. It makes me it makes me nervous. I think a hundred percent Um do stupid fucking things when they're drunk.

47:13Yeah, they could ruin the whole rest of their life Just being hammered imagine people just sobered up and be like you're lying I did that happened and they don't even have any memory of it I was watching this video that I just saw on Instagram the other day of this guy who was a former Muay Thai fighter in Mexico And he got a fight with these dudes and just started K K own dudes left and right He KOs like four or five dudes and one of them died Because this is one of the things that I tell people all the time absolutely happens in street fights You knock a person out they fall down they bounce their head off the concrete and they fucking die and it happens All the time it happens all the time and it happens So in 25 % of the people this guy knocked out one of them died So 25 % of them died one out of four he KOs all four of them one dude never wakes up and now he's charged with murder Have you seen the video?

48:05It's pretty impressive. No, and the guy's just defending himself Yeah, these guys are coming after him, and he just starts flatlining them. Damn. He's got a good right hand. Did you see any UFC fight or any fight when you were in Scotland? What did you do for fun when you were there? I don't know. There was no UFC fights. Have you seen that video, Jamie? I can send it to you if you want. Who's a Scottish fighter? Paul Craig, is he Scottish? Yeah, he's Scottish. He's a bad motherfucker. He's got one of the greatest triangles in the history of the sport. That guy's triangles off the charts. I know I sent it to Tommy.

48:37me and Tom Segura sent each other everything fucked up including that nuclear explosion I also saw that lady get body slammed did you see that one Jamie? you didn't see that lady get body slammed? some lady punches this guy in the face and the guy body slams her it wasn't that Pentecostal deal was it? no this one is I think it's in Toledo, Ohio and they're out in the middle of the street and this lady is yelling at this dude's girlfriend. So I just sent it to you, Jamie. Oh, Jesus. That's another one. Ooh. Oh, he picked that woman up and slammed her like that? Wow. That seems, first of all, weight class.

49:21That's a catch weight, huh? Oh, that's so awful. That's so awful. Oh, my God. Damn it. Jesus Christ. Fuck. That's not the one I'm talking about. The one I'm talking about is I just sent it to you, Jamie. You got to be careful, man. You just when the lady punches the guy in the face though the guy's trying to de-escalate he tries to walk away Mm-hmm and the lady said get the fuck out of my face And then she punches him in the face and the dude picks her up and just slams her Oh my god, and she her boyfriend was in the car the whole time She's calling out to the boyfriend in the car and the dude does not get out of the car.

49:50Nope She's like go ahead and fuck. Give me some volume

49:58Angle full screen Watch this You went around my fucking ass! Get out the fucking car of that bitch! Get out! Get out! I didn't touch your fucking car, you dumb bitch. You were on my gut. Come and touch me because my man's right fucking there. Come and put your fucking hand on me. I ain't driving crazy. Your bitch was on my goddamn ass. I went to the fucking other lane! Get out of my face. See you later. Bitch! Fuck ass! Oh! That's why you gotta go to a meeting, dude. I've go to a meeting before I do this shit. Okay. Just for the record. That's a Mazda. I think huh? No, it looks like a Cadillac Like a shitty old Cadillac for the record that that lady could die Yeah, like you could die from that like if her head banged off the concrete I'm not sure if it did but if it did with the weight of all of his body and her body like that shit is Very dangerous.

50:56Look how much we heard it from here. Yeah Yeah, he was charged with assault and battery by means of dangerous weapon causing serious bodily injury vandalizing property unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle The man involved was arrested, but he wasn't driving yeah that blew me up man This is just what someone posted below that could be it might not be true. The woman suffered injuries, but was released from the hospital Oh The thing is it's like she assaulted him first, right? Oh, yeah, it doesn't it seemed like they would get that figure but doing that. Oh, he did bang her head for sure Oh Yeah, you will you think yeah look at that that's super dangerous Super fucking dangerous like that's even more dangerous than knocking somebody out.

51:40I mean that's horrible That's a kind of 100 % kill somebody doing that 100 % well people want to do dangerous stuff Did you see there's a woman that just died petting an elephant trying to pet an elephant I think in Thailand But we want me if you don't mind a guy get trampled by an elephant recently you did oh It was awful this elephant I think this guy ordering it around and just folded this dude up and just squashed him and you see him trying to get away It just squashes his head Yo Spanish woman killed by elephant in Thailand while bathing animal. Oh, by the way, I did that you did it I didn't get in the bathe them, but my family did we in Thailand rode the elephants and I was like I don't think this is cool.

52:22They thought, oh, this is so beautiful. This is what happens. You go to this elephant reserve. It's like they rescue these elephants. By the way, the elephants are completely free range. So they're wandering through the jungle. So while you're there, you hear trees branching, branches snapping, and you see elephants just making their way through the jungle to this group, and then they feed them sugarcane. So you feed these elephants sugarcane. So you give them a bunch of sugar cane and then you clean them So you wash the elephant and you say nice things to it Yeah, and you develop this little relationship with the elephant Then you ride the elephant through the jungle the elephant takes you and then at the end of it You bathe the elephant right you get the elephant You're basically being nice to them.

53:07They're being nice to you. They're letting you ride them You give them free food and you give them a little massage, but I made a video about it I think when does it really did I was like I don't recommend it. Yeah I was like, it's cool because I was hanging out with this elephant in the video. They're really sweet creatures. They're so gentle, but they're so big, and they're deciding not to kill you. Right. And you're riding them, which is like, why do you have to ride them? Why do we have that fatuation with people that want to take pictures of like, you know, let me pet this newborn cheetah, right?

53:40Let me bottle feed this fucking senior citizen tiger. You know what I'm saying? And there's always like, let me breast, let me bathe this elephant. You know, let me. Well, the tigers are all drugged up, too. That was another thing we did in Thailand. You got to be careful, dude. The tigers are drugged up, man. Uh-uh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super drugged up. So this is what it is. It's like you go to these tiger sanctuaries. I thought you couldn't use drugs there. You can. You certainly can on tigers in Thailand. Oh, Thailand. So you go to this place and they have little kittens. So the kittens, the tiger cubs, they're different.

54:11They're super active. Like, they're biting things and playing with each other. And you can touch them? Yeah, you can touch them. Okay, then when they get slightly older You can be in the cage with them But there has to be a dude with a stick a dude with a stick standing between you and this small tiger Fuck no whose team is he on? Oh, it's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. And he's on your team? Yes Okay, and this is a small tiger. This tiger is like 40 pounds and then when they get bigger Then they have to drug them. So then when you get into the adult tiger, they're like this Like so obvious and people are taking pictures like sitting next to the tiger tigers literally like this like he has no idea what's going on they keep them all heroin down in their mind the tigers don't move and you realize they're drugged up and you get real sad yeah rfk is gonna end that shit i'll say that dude we're gonna have real active tigers fucking attacking you want a photo with the tiger you gotta risk your life but that's the thing it's like why do we have that infatuation though of like i want to take this with this cobra around my neck i want to take this you know it's a good question you can't like get these things where you want to pet a tiger you want to you know brush a lion's teeth you want to tickle a Sist out in Akron or something without getting you know and sometimes people you're gonna get attacked Yeah, but why what is that inside of us that makes us want to do that because it's scary It's scary to pet a crocodile.

55:25So when a guy can like put his hand on the crocodiles face You're like whoa. Yeah Do you ever see that one where the dude is like the crocodile grabs a hold of his arm and goes into a gator roll in front of the crowd? Oh, it's horrible rips his arm off find the whole crowd I haven't seen that. Um, what else was I gonna ask you about? What do you think the drones are, Theo? I thought it was just a bunch of fucking... I think it's a... What does a psyop mean? I always hear that. Psychological operation. Okay. I think it's a psyop by somebody. I think it's not... You know? Yeah, it's a couple drones over in New Jersey or whatever.

55:58I don't fucking know. I don't fucking know. It could be Jimmy John's is going to have a new delivery thing they're going to try next year. Who... I wouldn't be surprised at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon's going to do a new... I wouldn't be shocked at all. It could have been one of those... You know they have those New Year's Eve displays? like fireworks displays now are drones instead of fireworks. So they'll have like a thousand drones and they just make a bunch of shit. And it's different, right? I saw that at the Post Malone concert. It could have been 11 drones escaped from a drone's enslavement camp where they're forced to do these shows.

56:28And it's going to be a Pixar movie in two years. You're not concerned at all? I'm not concerned. Dude, look, if they're going to come get me, come get me. Come get me. What are they doing? Who are they? Who are they? These fucks. Yeah. They're gonna come come get me come get me bitch. Yeah, if they want to get me they know I am yeah They know I'm huh? Yeah, otherwise leave me alone. Don't make me look at you flying around the sky Like you're fucking yeah, what are you doing up there? Come down here fuck if you want to party whoa or come down here fucking party come out here have a drink come I need to do something you're a drone in the distance fucking looking at shit Do you think we'll ever get to a point where aliens are so comfortable with us?

57:05They could just come hang out dude. I think earth to aliens is a dump dude. I think earth to alien because aliens go on vacation every year right they're just like us right and they take their kids on a trip or whatever and the kids who are so poor right and i'm and look we were poor mom would take us to the beach when it was freezing cold and fucking wouldn't tell us you know whatever it was like it seems cold i'm saying whatever so well and um but the aliens that don't care about their kids whatever they bring them here to fucking they're like oh and the kids like we have to go to fucking earth dude our life sucks you know like the cool alien kids go to all more neater shit you know right does it make sense to you yeah yeah that's the kind of thing i'm saying man do you know scotland actually has some of the most ufo sightings in the whole world well they had one of the best ufo sightings they took photographs of it it was in that movie bridge bonnie or whatever what's it called bridgebury uh yeah something like that james fox's documentary The program he was just here promoting it and they showed the photo and it's a photo from the 1990s that they got of this thing There's apparently there was three photos Bonnie bridge.

58:12That's it. Yeah, most UFO settings on the planet. Whoa 300 per year, but also let me tell you something those folks like to drink. I mean, they drank Oh, yeah, I have a weed rab have a weed rab if someone says have a weed rab That means it's time to get fucked up this dude who do Paul poured me a shot of Irish whiskey That was like that thick. I was like, oh, we're gonna go. We're getting ready to go. Did they call you that? How do we drab? They're the nicest people. They're the nicest people. And they're gay. I think they don't have a lot of gays over there either. They have a lot of blue-eyed people over there.

58:45You know that? You don't think they have a lot of gays? I don't know. What do you think they do with them? I mean, they have them. I bet they don't say that they're secretive. Nah, I don't think so. You don't think? I think they're pretty open-minded. In fact, I think they have a pretty woke government. I think they have a very woke government. They wear a lot of kilts, that's for sure, dude. There you go. It's close to gay. I mean, it's not close, but it's like, what if a kilt says free awning on it? What if it's a rainbow kilt? Yeah. Do they sell rainbow kilts? They probably do. It's always raining.

59:13What if it just says free awning on it? You're like, oh, that seems like a trap, bro. Come dry your head off down here. But if it says kids awning, you got to be, that's fucking. Yeah, free toys. That's pretty cool, dude. Hey, the top's empty. Jesus. Christ. I'm just saying, dude, the Scottish, we need more of them, dude, and I believe that in the future we'll get more of them, man. Do you think they're going to breed a lot, or do you think we're going to import people? They've had some explosions of population, I know, over the past 50 years, I think. Oh, really? Yeah, I think so. There's like a million people over there.

59:47There's nobody over there. Yeah, but they're getting more. I think the whole country is like 6 million people. Most redheads, most blue-eyed people. Yep. Most redheads per capita. As of 2022, the population in Scotland was 5.4 million. Yeah. Largest population ever recorded by Scotland census. Population grew by 2.7 % since the 2011 census, which was slower rate of growth than the 4.6 increase between 2001 and 2011. They're smashing. They've been listening to Ed Sheeran, brother. Get the candles lit. Yeah, they're coming back. They're getting lung cancer. It's like, fuck it. Fuck it. I'm going to keep an atmosphere going.

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1:04:28I'm interested to see if they can do anything. I'm interested to see what the reaction is to it, too. Like, what kind of resistance is there to them trying to change things? By the actual government elected officials. Yeah, that's going to be interesting, too. Like, sometimes you find out more by resistance than you do from, like we did with, like, we were talking about on the other podcast, the Trudeau thing with the truckers in Canada. When he went after the people that donated money to the truckers and he closed their bank accounts, that's crazy fascism. I didn't know he did that. Yeah, that's crazy, tyrannical overreach.

1:05:00That's like really dangerous authoritarian government tactics. You close the bank accounts of people who donated to a peaceful protest. So sometimes like in resistance, you get to see what someone's really about. Yeah. And so I'm interested to see, well, were they already trying to kill him? you know i know two times i think even after that they're like we gotta let him keep going that's the other weird one about the killing them thing they're trying to kill them is there there's all these connections this is the big tinfoil hat conspiracy thing they're all connecting them to fort bragg so there's three connections to fort bragg there's this guy who blew himself up allegedly in the tesla there's the dude who tried to kill trump on the golf course he had visited Fort Bragg a hundred times.

1:05:47There's one other one. What's the other one? The New Orleans guy? The New Orleans guy. Yeah, that's right. The New Orleans guy who ran over those people in the street. That guy's from Fort Bragg as well. And so... I'm praying for those groups. It's fucking heartbreaking. What people are really terrified of is the idea of mind control and that they train people that are very vulnerable people that are all fucked up. They train these people to become hitmen and terrorists. And there was an undercover camera thing. I'll send this to you, Jamie, because you see it and you're like, what the fuck? These are real people where this guy is explaining how they do this.

1:06:27And he's explaining how they take people and push them over the edge. Oh, yeah. People that are maybe like a little bit lost and they give them a nudge to get them to do things. Well, it all makes sense. I mean, just like religion can find you or just like. Sure. The government can find you when you're vulnerable. Yeah. Something can find you when you're vulnerable. Well, that's the kid that shot Trump. That's what a lot of people think that is, too. The tinfoil hat conspiracy is that they found this very vulnerable kid. He did a black rock commercial and then you know a year and a half later, whatever it was He's shooting at Trump off of a roof.

1:07:03Yeah, so listen to this So CIA agent explains how the government baits and tricks mentally unwell social media users into committing crimes They wouldn't normally commit and so it says you set them up You create the situation to where they have no choice but to act on their thing And once they act on that impulse, then we call that entrapment. We call it a nudge. A nudge. A nudge. Mmm. Sometimes you just gotta give them a quick little, just to see what happens, right? And how does that happen? You put a post out there, or you have some fake profile say something that triggers, we know it's gonna trigger them, right?

1:07:41Like we already know your history. If we're to that point, we already know everything about it. So we're like, oh, this will piss them off. Oh. You like the views and just wait for it to follow. Yeah

1:08:04So this is the guy's name is Gavin O 'Blennis and says CIA contracting officer former FBI San Diego Like is that to protect or serve like what is that for you imagine that government money is being spent to manipulate vulnerable people into doing things that they wouldn't ordinarily do. That's crazy. I could totally imagine that. I mean, that's what's scary about - Why isn't always these chatty gay guys that get busted? Well, this guy, obviously, it seems like was trying to flirt with whoever he's talking to me. And I'm not saying the guy - That's always what it is. ... enjoys buddies or whatever.

1:08:37I'm just saying it seemed like that to me. Yeah, chatty gay guys. That's how they keep busting them. Yeah. They get hot guys on Grindr to go meet up with chatty gay guys. yeah I wonder how they set that up I wonder if you have to have a bunch of verified fucks in order for people to take you like where's your blue check mark you got to be really good buddy you got to get a pink check mark someone's fucked you all right this guy's legit oh and you think there's a lot of people being fake gays or whatever to help the government mm-hmm oh yeah all that James O 'Keefe stuff back when he was at Project Veritas they'd always bust these gay guys James O 'Keefe the author no no no the investigative journalist oh I I didn't see that.

1:09:16Very controversial investigative journalist that does these undercover ops where he finds, he gets one of his guys to wear a camera. I'm thinking of Robert O 'Keefe, I think. I don't know who you're thinking of. But James O 'Keefe was with Project Veritas. Now he's got his own thing. What is it called? The James O 'Keefe's OMG something. OMG, right? O 'Keefe Media Group. Yeah. And so looking into this guy, he might be a bullshit artist. He might have been lying just so he could get laid, you know? That's what I felt like 100%. This guy seems like... That's just what someone claimed to look into him and said he didn't work there.

1:09:52He's VA employed, advanced medical support assistant. Okay, it says, this guy's my age. He was checking in patients at the VA when I started as an FBI agent, and that was 10 years older than many in 2022. He was the secretary at the FBI. Be skeptical, people, geez. So he might be just... Well, it seemed like he was. but also he probably does know how they do it maybe he's not even saying that he does it because he has a low position but if he's explaining how the fbi does it and he does work for the fbi it makes sense do you think we can trust our fbi anymore i think you trust some of them but the fbi is like people and people in positions of power they they get corrupted some do get corrupted some are great patriots it's just like everything else man and the cia the same thing i think with every fucking group of people that are in power that don't have a lot of oversight or where the organization itself has been corrupted you know there's a lot of people that think the fbi back in the day not the same people live today of course but they had something to do with martin luther king's assassination oh yeah you know there's a lot of people that think they had something to do with malcolm x's assassination and uh kennedy yeah there's a lot of fucking theories and i don't know the the truth i don't know the truth but when you look in the january 6 thing and you said that the f didn't they admit they had 26 agents there is that what they admitted to jamie because this is the most recent discussion about what actually took place in january 6 like how many of those people this article is talking about this is 20 20 i just wonder 20 agents what starts to happen if you don't if as a society you don't believe and trust in i believe that the The trust overall in government and government and authority in America really as a whole is kind of starting to dissipate.

1:11:43Along with the trust in the media. Right. At the same time. So then what – has that ever happened in history? And then I'm sure it has. And where do we go from here? Well, we've never lived in a time. That's a big of a question. When you say has it ever happened in history, sure, things have fallen apart before. But has it ever come back together again? Maybe not but maybe it didn't have the internet back then right so what people are looking at like with Trudeau resigning and Trump winning and then you know all this talk of Robert Kennedy getting in the make America healthy again Movement like that we might be able to see Legitimate change this go around like with Vivek and Elon being in charge of government efficiency We might be able to see I'm hopeful I'm really hopeful for the first time in a long time, but I'm curious to see what can actually get done Who do they have to answer to Vivek and Elon who did they have to first present stuff to somebody said it was Marjorie Taylor Green is that true or somebody made that up?

1:12:36They're in

1:12:39I met her at a party actually yeah I didn't know that it was her I don't know like a ton about politics, but it was definitely interesting though I'm sure Tucker had that party for out. He has like a new nicotine pouches. They're good I haven't done them do legit, but uh, yeah, it seemed cool Mel Gibson was there. That was pretty cool. So I went without nicotine pouches for five days. See what that was like? What happened? When I tried the eights, when I came back, I got these loosies, these breakers, the eights. I couldn't take it. It was too much. Because five days off, I was like, whoa, this is too much.

1:13:13And what happened? You get to sit down somewhere? Did you just... I got to take it out of my mouth. Then I switched to these threes. I'm on this athletic nicotine, these threes. So I've been taking these while I do podcasts, but completely killed my desire to just pop them in throughout the day. Yeah. Because I was used to the eights, so I was popping them eights all day long. But then I realized when I wasn't taking them for the five days, I'm like, ooh, I'm a lot more calm. Yeah. I'm a lot less ramped up. I don't need to be ramped up while I'm on vacation. I don't have to do any podcasts. Yeah.

1:13:41I don't need to be alive as much. Well, I just mean, enjoy. Just be chill. Why be alert? Why be so alert? Yeah. Thing is, you get used to being so alert. You want them all the time. Want them before I lift. Fucking give me an eight before I lift. Oh, I want something all the fucking time, dude. Yeah. I want a fucking. Want another sniff? I wish I had that trach hole. I'd just fucking. Want another sniff? Boof shit right into my neck all day. Yeah. I'll take whatever you got, boy. Here we fucking go. Here we go. I heard a buddy the other day saying he's sober. Call your hand, dude. Oh. Wow. You look like a Jets fan.

1:14:17I'm like looking at fireworks right now. My eyes are closed. It's just fireworks. Oh, yeah. Give me some of it. Katie Perry dust, buddy. Oh, Joey, you want to see me ride it, don't you, Lava? Imagine if Katie Perry takes her panties off. And that's it. Oh, no. And I shouldn't have said the first part either, because she's married. She said Katie Perry does this. Yes, be respectful. I am. Let's imagine not a real Katie Perry, but a robot Katie Perry, because that's coming. Yeah, and we met Catherine Perry, who grew up. Different gal. She's from Toledo. She's the girl that got body slammed. Take a snap.

1:14:53Oh, you went deep son. You know deep you got that into your hairs. Give me that back before you hurt yourself Oh, you were reluctant to give it back. You're thinking about going. Yeah, I'll fucking go again boy Huh, really? Yeah, dude Okay, I'll do one more little one. I'm gonna do a big one dog We ready We ready We're gonna Oh my god What have you done? Plate of pipes, Joey Rogan Darja, Aliens, Joel Jesus, son Oh Oh Oh Oh, fuck that shit will turn you into a raccoon baby boy. Dude, you know the worst thing was besides that Your eyes when you close your eyes did you see fireworks? Yeah, like when I closed my eyes.

1:15:59It was like my whole it was all lit up It reminds me of that thing you ever seen that game show. It's um Sauce challenge or whatever what hot sauce challenge. Oh, yeah, yeah hot wings hot wings right hot ones hot ones well have you ever done that yeah i did it a few years ago and it was a great that guy sean evans is a great guy that's all i hear about him oh everybody says he's a nice guy he's so smart and he's a neat he's just a nice dude and um but people are always like how are the sauces well seven of them are sauces a couple of them are fucking shit you used to clean this out of a boat you know it's like it's like like sauces went into that weird realm where it was like Like, we just want to burn a hole in you kind of thing, you know?

1:16:42Yeah. And so some of them got to be very, I don't want to get sued for saying that. Can I say that? I'm just joking, right? Yeah, you're just joking. But they're like, some of them were like, oh, this isn't, I wouldn't put this on anything. Right. It's too strong. It's not a sauce. It's just like a chemical, it felt like. Yeah, it's dangerous. Yeah. What about that one chip challenge? You ever try that? I did that. It's fun. It's preposterous. It's nice. Yeah, it's like a Mexican Christmas type of thing. I think it comes out every year. But the chips are stale and bullshit, though. That's what was terrible the chips are bullshit.

1:17:09It's just a gateway drug for spice or whatever I feel like it was just a way to reuse Shitty old chips that had gone bad. That's what it felt like to me like whoever did is a goddamn genius Because that's why I was offended by the fact that the chip was so dry Yeah, I was like look you could do this with a Dorito and it wouldn't be as offensive You know one thing about Doritos every time you open those bitches. It's the same I know they're using seed oils and a bunch of chemicals, but guess what I don't eat Doritos all the time But I had a bag of Doritos five days ago and guess what I Enjoyed it was cool ranch.

1:17:45Oh, they're so good. They were good I remember when they came out with those people couldn't even fucking didn't know what to do They couldn't stop I remember our stepdad came back for like a week when they came out and he's like yeah It's gonna be fine cool ranch. Fuck. They were good a little bit of queso. Oh, dude cool ranch was good. I remember um Trying to think of the early cheese balls. Those were good Those were good You can't outlaw that stuff Just because some people have no self control Do you think Are some people going to start to be like Oh shit this guy's going to take away Chick-fil-A Like you were saying Probably Yeah We can't let that happen Well that's We can't now go against Bobby Kennedy Yeah we have to We have to fight him It's the same thing Remember Jalen was the Doritos guy Jalen was selling Doritos I think that's when Bill Hicks started attacking him They didn't get along?

1:18:31No I didn't know that Did you ever meet Bill Hicks? I never met him. I saw him live twice two or three times. I think three times But I said hi to him like it's like you know like that okay, so was he like famous when you saw him? He was famous for comedians. He was famous He had been on Rodney Dangerfield's young comedian special and that was a big deal back then This was before he even had his big HBO special um, he was just this Weird guy who was connected to Kinison and then the first time I saw him live. I was like, holy shit He was doing things that are so different than any of the comedy that was popular back then it was all like He had something to say about things.

1:19:16It was like cultural It was like Cultural commentary with jokes, but the cultural commentary was as much of a part as what he was saying was the fact that it was funny That was totally unique and then it became a thing where everybody was copying him. Oh really? Yeah So he was like one of those guys that people just started being like without even without even realizing it Yeah without realizing it and realizing it and just openly plagiarizing him He was very plagiarized by a bunch of people, but he was Just doing something different because his interests were different. He was following his interests.

1:19:48Yeah, you know That's what he was interested in talking about So and he was touring so much that he was working so much that he had so much material because he was just constantly Playing in all these places and unlike a lot of like really respected comedians He didn't do his tours in the big cities. He's like touring around the deep south You know He called it his flying saucer tour because everywhere he would tours where flying saucers would be spotted Like these weird fucked up cities and so he developed this like really intelligent act that would work on dumb crowds Huh very unique guy Like low brow high art kind of stuff.

1:20:25Well, some of it was low brow. Some of it was highbrow. Some of it was just funny Great social commentary on the war, you know, he was just great. It was just a different thing I mean He wasn't as like laugh out loud funny as like Richard Jenny But I remember me and Richard Jenny watched him once and he said every time I see that guy I'm like I got to do more of that Oh, yeah Richard Jenny said that I saw him say it and so I'm like wow Richard Jenny to me at that time was One of the greatest comics alive. He was so good in the 1980s. Like, people don't realize. I've told this story before, but just for you.

1:20:58There's one time he was at the Eastside Comedy Club. And Eastside Comedy Club was a big comedy club in Long Island. Great club. Awesome club. Richie Menervini used to own it. And we were there on Sunday, and the dude who was the emcee over the weekend was depressed. He was like, Richard Jenney did four different hours. And he goes, he didn't repeat a joke once, and every hour he killed. He goes he did four completely different hours and no one could do that back then So for Richard Jenny to tell me that he was watching Bill Hicks like I gotta do more of that Wow like that's how influential he was Did you see George Carlin perform then too?

1:21:35Yeah, I saw George perform a bunch of times I saw George perform in a time where he wasn't doing so good. He was struggling with the drugs you think I don't know man I saw him bomb in New Hampshire. I took my roommates to a casino saw him play in a casino in New Hampshire And he fucking ate shit. It was weird. It was weird. It's like it wasn't worked out. Yeah It's like he was he would go on stage with notebooks And he was just kind of like working out ideas He had a very different way of doing comedy like his way of doing comedy was he would write everything out and Then he would bring notebooks on stage and perform it as he wrote it Like he didn't do it like almost like doing a one-man show and then every year he would film it for HBO damn Yeah, it was a totally different style of doing comedy And so he went through periods of time where he was doing real well And he was real funny and then he went through some dark times where he was bombing a lot and that's unfortunately the first time I saw him hmm Have you ever seen um Roll Tide Willie that guy uh Who's that?

1:22:37I'll put you on him He said I guess he's kind of a comedian now. He was a he played football for Alabama, and then he got injured He was in the military.

1:22:50See if you can pull up something of him. So what does he do? Does he just say his crazy things? He loves Alabama. He's like a... Like a mascot? Yeah, yeah. He's like a mascot. He likes alcohol. He looks like he likes alcohol. Yeah. He's sitting here watching and waiting on the Balmer gang. Look right here on this side. Chilling. Chilling. Don't give a piss. Don't give a piss about nothing but the tide. What you doing? The tide, Alabama tide, he likes. Wow. That's one of his favorites. You got to give people the freedom to not give a fuck about anything but the tide. Right? That's one of the...

1:23:30Right? If you're going to have transgenders going into the men's room or the women's room, you're going to have to have that guy, too. You got to be tolerant of that guy. Oh, 100%, man. How come you're not? Yeah. Why are you so judgmental? like that guy have some tolerance yeah he served for our country too did he yeah he got injured in the or I think he got injured he was in the military with my friend's dad but he I think he played at the University of Alabama but now he's like the biggest fan but he's kind of a yeah mascot for Alabama he's like the they call it he goes by Roll Tide Willie okay so just so you know why did you want to bring him up I don't know just came to mind yeah i just think we're just talking about what we're talking about oh comedians entertainers i think entertainment's getting interesting because a lot of people are getting entertainers too just off of um off of social media reels right right so it's like you're finding somebody you might want to watch like uh um jessica mcgowan or something or um who's that shit like the lady from buffy the vampire slayer i'm talking about or you know Gwyneth Paltrow or watch like a or watch Roll Tide you know what I'm saying it's just so it's entertainment's just super interesting now well it's definitely open to more things right like Tim Dillon turned me on to that family in New Jersey that goes to Costco and yells out about cookies oh the booms yeah yeah yeah that's unfortunate right I mean that's crazy and the one kid Millions of people watch that like that's way more than watch CNN.

1:25:09We bring the boom. Yeah, that kid and the one kid I heard he make good grades, unfortunately, which is like school. Why should he? Yeah, make that Costco tick tock money. They better not ban tick tock. Imagine that family becomes homeless. Yeah, because some heartless politicians decide to stop that Chinese spyware. How about let those morons stay on that shit? Let them steal their passwords. Let them go boom. I'm on there you should be but they're taking all they're taking but yeah I guess I'm wondering sometimes what are the Chinese actually taking that they already have for me except I mean they could geolocate me your DNA I'm gonna clone you you're gonna be like Alex Jones gonna have a different version of you half my family's in recovery you can have it but you can fucking have you Do you think any of those drones are Chinese How could we have in our airspace a drone from another country and we don't know it that's why all is it that we don't know it or we can't do anything about it Oh, we could do something about it Well, you have to decide to do something about it and the Biden administration doesn't seem like they're the type that would just be shooting shit out of the sky That's a good point Whereas Trump That motherfucker will shoot some shit out of the sky.

1:26:24You know, they didn't tell him about some of the balloons that China had circling the country because they were worried he was going to have them shot out of the sky. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They openly admitted that they didn't tell Trump about some of the balloons. Remember when they shot that balloon out of the sky? Yeah. When they shot that balloon out of the sky, we were talking about this the other day, they missed. One of those missiles missed. And went where? Who fucking knows? Oh. I'll tell you. It's like New Year's Eve in San Antonio, dude. Imagine if you're hiking you're out there in the wilderness like this is amazing.

1:26:53I've got my jet boil I'm gonna cook. I'm gonna cook up some ramen tonight. Yeah, eat Thomas Boom right in the face Right in the face a missile that was meant for a Chinese balloon and they're never gonna admit to that They'll say it was yeah you vanished. Yeah, there's nothing to even test you'll be on one of those 411 Documentaries or something you get hit in the face with a missile. There's nothing left. That's on you too. There's nothing left They don't even know you were there You just You got ate by wolves Who knows what happened to you God, baby girl is gone You're gone There's nothing You're pink mist They're gonna scrape you off the leaves Do a DNA test Yeah, dude You get in with a missile Out of a fucking fighter jet There wouldn't be enough There'd be barely enough for a wolf To lick a little bit of you off a rock Okay, let's imagine that Beirut bomb Okay That Beirut bomb What do you do?

1:27:43You see it falling What do you do? You don't do anything It's right there You don't do a thing you just go. Oh, no, and then you vaporize You prepare yourself for the next dimension. How long do you get it? Save it's you don't get any time at all Come on. It just happens so fast if you're in the epicenter of one of those bombs and it just goes off You don't have any time. We just boom vaporize the whole city's vaporized. What if you're 2 ,000 yards off You might live who knows you might be behind a fucking building and the building might stay up and you just get your eardrums blown out and you get the kind of concussion that you usually get from a horrible car accident.

1:28:21Who knows? I would imagine there's like a level where you could be far enough away where it's not death, like instant death. But where's that level? Where is it? It's not close. Close, you're dead for sure. So like how far out do you have to be where now you're deaf for the rest of your life? Now you can't see. Who knows? Now you have no memory of your childhood. It's like a concussion of epic proportions, even if you survive, Depending on how far out you are and then you know you get far out enough though It doesn't affect you at all you could see it from a distance That's got to be crazy too to know that you could have just been over there and you would have been vaporized Oh, do you hear about the dude that survived Hiroshima and then he went to Nagasaki to work and then he survived Nagasaki No, I survived both of them.

1:29:06He just survived both of them still alive still alive. I think he died recently But this dude he went from yeah I think he died a while ago now that I'm thinking about it this dude went he was in Hiroshima bomb blew up Killed you know how many people hundred fifty thousand people instantaneously? He escapes gets out goes to Nagasaki to work Nagasaki gets hit Less than two miles from the blast zones of both And did he say how he survived each time? What was the guy's name? I? Can't pronounce the first name. I'll show you give him some credit give Theo a shot at it What's his name there? Some what some Toma Sutomo Yamaguchi Yeah Tutsumo Yamaguchi Tutsumo Yamaguchi was like quite a few fires named Yamaguchi to two files less than two miles from the blast Zones of Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings and miss miraculously survive both without debilitating injuries My double radiation exposure is now an official government record Yamaguchi said I can tell you the younger generation the Horrifying history of the atomic bombings even before I die.

1:30:15Do you think we should have done that Joe that bomb? Wow, he lived he died of stomach cancer at 93. Oh my god. That's incredible. He lived that long. Yeah Stomach cancer one of us because of the bomb I mean died 93 But some Asians live very long Who get 120 years out of do I think we should have dropped the bomb on people no yeah me neither no it's fucking insane It's so insane, but it just goes to show you that somewhere inside of us. There's an evil that will be evil, you know bro Look at this No go go up go up go up He opposed the country's role in World War two and became so despondent about the war that he considered killing his wife and infant son with sleeping pills If Japan lost Holy fuck dude company man Jesus Christ.

1:31:02That's so scary heartbreaking So this guy was lit with a blaze the lightning of a huge magnesium flare Oh my god, he saw the Enola gay fly over Hiroshima and drop an item carried by two parachutes Suddenly he said the sky lit with a blaze. Oh my god. Do you have a bomb shelter? Joe do you have a bomb? I should probably get one but I really think that if if a nuclear war breaks out you really want to be like right where the nuke hits You want to end you don't want to be made you don't want to live in a zombie apocalypse Like post war What am I? Think I fainted for a while when I above oh The the ground roared and an ear-shattering noise ripped through the air tossing Yamaguchi into the air as a fireball Imploded overhead he was dropped face first into a muddy furrow the protective measures He took likely saved his life a woman who had been walking beside him shortly before the blast disappeared all together I Think I fainted for a while when I opened my eyes everything was dark I couldn't see much It was like the start of a film at the cinema before the picture has begun when the blank frames are just flashing up without any sound unreal Fuck dude.

1:32:13Look at it look like Fuck can you even fathom one second? It looks one way and the next second looks another way and no one's ever done this before that we know of on earth and then they just decided to drop it on a city jesus and they did it again boom boom the scene in the oppenheimer when they're deciding where to do it if that's how it went down is crazy nuts i gotta watch that that movie's crazy is it it's crazy yeah because you you get to see first of all that dude uh cillian murphy that guy's incredible he's incredible yeah that's the Dude from the Peaky Blinders? Oh, yeah. He's so good.

1:32:52He's such a good actor. And so he nailed this tortured genius, Oppenheimer, in this creation that he made. It'd be so scary, something you thought was probably for a purpose in the beginning, and then you changed your mind during it. Well, also, you have to do it. Because if you don't do it, if the Germans get it, they're going to kill everybody. Still wounded and heavily banished, Yamaguchi returned to work on August 9, the day Nagasaki was bombed. He was providing his supervisor a detailed account of the Hiroshima bombing when the landscape outside the office suddenly lit up in a blinding light and Yamaguchi fell to the floor as shock waves destroyed the windows.

1:33:30Suddenly the same white light filled the room, he later recalled. I thought the mushroom cloud had followed me from Hiroshima. Wow. That's crazy. That's when you just got to... That's crazy. A reinforced stairwell in the office protected the conference room where Yamaguchi and his colleagues were. Jesus Christ. They just heard his story, and it says someone took cover in a manner similar to how he described in Hiroshima. His wife was soaked in black rain and was poisoned, as their daughter later recalled. In the subsequent weeks, Yamaguchi suffered high fevers, severe hair loss, continuous vomiting, and other symptoms from radiation poisoning.

1:34:10Motherfucker, dude. How much would have to happen in America for things to get to a place where people are just like Every man for himself like do you feel like that like that kind of thing power going out? Yeah, what keeps us together is electricity right now the way society is structured We are so dependent upon electricity that without electricity. We don't have anything. We don't have any cooling We have no ice. We have no way of Processing water. Yeah, we're fucked without electricity. We have no transportation We're really fucked without electricity electricity without oil that any fuel at all we're doomed We're fucking doomed and all we have is burning things And do you think for the first day people would be kind of organized like let's see what happens here watching the news And then the second day should we get a well like how quick would people as soon as people ran out of food?

1:35:00And that doesn't take long. That's a few days It's a few days and then everyone's like oh, I'm gonna get a rifle learn how to hunt good luck Not at the last minute. What are you going to put in an ad at the last minute? Sorry it's so late, guys. Need to learn how to hunt or whatever. By the way, if everybody goes hunting, here's the dirty secret about hunting. The reason why hunting works is because everybody doesn't hunt. If everybody hunted, there would be no more animals. They almost did that in the 1800s, man. They started doing what they call market hunting. And market hunting almost wiped out everything in this country.

1:35:33Almost wiped out all the elk. Wiped out most of the buffalo. Almost wiped out whitetail deer. Really? Yeah, man, because people were hunting them. They could hunt as much as they wanted? As much as they wanted. There was no regulation, and they were selling the meat, and there was no refrigeration. So you have to kill them all the time. So they would hire professional hunters, and that's how they would get their meat, and they were just devastating populations of animals. I mean, you've seen the piles of buffalo bones, right? Terrifying. They killed millions of buffalo in a few years. They brought the herds down to nothing in a few years.

1:36:06It got that close to total extinction. And was that because people were like expanding West and they needed food? They needed food They needed the skins they wanted the tongues Pickled tongues was a big delicacy on the East Coast So shoot them for their tongue only which is crazy So you take in one of the biggest animals that lives in North America and you're slaughtering it just for the smallest organ the smallest thing their tongue Yeah, so people did that already and if there's no power there's not enough food There's just not. Yeah. We don't have enough wild game for 330 million people for a year.

1:36:43Forget about forever. We don't, huh? We don't. We definitely don't. We definitely 100 % don't. And the only reason why you can have these giant populations of people like Los Angeles, the only way you can have that is farmers. Right. You have to have farmers. You have to have people that are fucking fully dedicated 24 hours a day to growing animals and food all the time to supply those people. Amen. So if you looked at the amount of farmers versus the amount of people that they feed, it's crazy. Oh, it's a great point how exponential it probably is, huh? Crazy. So if all that's gone, then all those people have no food.

1:37:15And then where are they getting it? Are they going to be willing to, like, how are they going to learn how to herd cattle? And the farmers are going to be sitting there licking their chops. Well, they're going to be killed, most likely. Oh, people are going to try to get them for their food. Yeah. But the farmers will be ready. For a while. You know how long can you hold off millions of people with guns? The United States has more guns than most of the world. We have 40 % of the firearms on earth Fuck yeah, we can They can do it for a while. I guess see if that statistic is true. I believe it is.

1:37:49I think the American people have an exponential Number in comparison to every other country where we're so we have so much more weapons in any other country And I think we have more guns than the entire Chinese army by a large no way really yeah by a large amount They just the American population has more guns It's so embedded in our culture because I'll meet people sometimes in like you guys have all these guns like what do you there's no way to Not have guns here Well, there's more guns than there are people here But how would you even do it if somebody were like you should get rid of gun right?

1:38:20Can you hear people say that sometimes like well, you're not gonna get rid of guns altogether You're not gonna eliminate the technology, right? So the technology if it exists someone's gonna have the guns Who's gonna have those guns? Well, you're gonna have the government's gonna have the guns So you're basically giving the guns to people that are known liars who've been manipulating and controlling people from the beginning of time Yeah, you can't have that and the reason why the United States has such a unique Freedom is because the First Amendment is protected by the Second Amendment. Yeah, didn't Chris Rock have a bit about that?

1:38:49I believe he did I'm not sure if you believe Chris Rock had a bit probably did I think he did One last question before we go Joe What's up Jamie? 35-50 % Of the guns Somewhere in the range of 270 million Out of the 645 million total Guns in America? Close to 42 % 42 % of the guns In the world right here baby His dog's over there Snoring you know why? Because he can see He can sleep well There's hard men out there with pistols Protecting that little dog Dogs used to protect us Carly Protecting nobody Carl bites me full blast every day Really? He loves that He loves to meet a man with his face He doesn't hurt you He doesn't No he's adorable Yeah But you know what I'm saying Like we need to protect Carl He can't protect us That's how soft people have gotten We gotta Listen to him where they're snoring You hear him?

1:39:46Yeah He sounds like Lee Syed a little When Lee gets too many edibles They're back The church of what's happening now is back Just saw the first episode. Isn't that amazing? It's so cool. I was telling Joey for a while. I orchestrated getting the two of them together at the mothership. I'm like, I've got to get you guys together. I was putting it in his ear. I'm like, Joey, you guys got to bring the band back. He goes, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna. Joey and Lee in California, when they had that show, it was in this weird little office building. So bizarre. You'd park out there. You'd be lucky to find a spot.

1:40:19It had a really 80s vibe out there. They had like one kind of neon kind of light that was kind of like they'd have their door for their office like open a little bit and it didn't seem like it was an office. It seemed like it was a place where they shot like kind of quick porn. Did you ever see the one episode where they had an office building at one point in time with a bunch of other people that had office buildings? And Joe, who's too loud and they were yelling at him to be quiet. He's like, shut the fuck up.

1:40:44No, it was amazing. We used to share all the nail salon for a while. Really? Yeah, and they'd always be chattering in there and yelling about stuff. It was fun. Oh, that's okay. Some of that was fun, dude. I remember we used to share a wall with Fighter and the Kid for a while, and that was so much fun. We'd bang on the wall at each other. Well, you guys had, like, there was a bunch of podcasts that were being done in, like, a couple areas like that in California. Yeah. Where they had little podcast studio places where, like, several sets would be. It was so much fun. But those guys, they'd always ran into some money problem.

1:41:13There was always, like, some producer that was taking too much money, and they wanted to control the show. And I ran into so many dudes that had podcast deals that went south. And it was, again, the same kind of thing. Power and corruption. Yeah. There's so many guys who had podcast deals. And then the people that they did this that had this network wound up owning their podcast and selling their podcast. And they were like, what the fuck? They just got robbed. Yeah. We got robbed. I mean, we got stolen from. You got literally robbed. Yeah. But we didn't. We still had ownership, you know. Yeah.

1:41:44But they stole your ad revenue, right? Yeah. For a year. Yeah, man. And there was a lot of dirty business in the podcast world. It was dark. Well, it's the Wild West, right? It was a completely new thing. And all of a sudden, when the money spigot opened, it just opened. Like, woo! Like, I made no money for, like, five years. I just did it for funsies. And then all of a sudden, the spigot just opened. Yeah, your spigot. Yeah, really. You have the most open spigot. Right now, I have the most open spigot. And congratulations. Thank you. You work harder than any podcaster by far, man. And you're so great at it, man.

1:42:14Well, you got to keep your foot on the gas, son. That's the thing about podcasts or anything else when you've got a feel like you're essentially you're running a business, right? What is the business? The business is interesting content. All right. How much are you actually interested in interesting content? Because if you're not, it's not going to work. So you've got to be fully interested, which I am. That's where I'm lucky. I'm lucky that I'm interested in all these things. Oh, yeah. Pay attention to this shit. Even if I wasn't talking about it, I'd be watching podcasts on this kind of shit because I'm interested.

1:42:44I'm interested in ancient civilizations. I'm interested in cultures. Oh, yeah. Well, we learn a lot of stuff by listening to you learn it, man. So it's cool. You know, I have one question. I know you one time we were talking about if you ever retired. Right. Yeah. And you said maybe you would start painting. Maybe if you ever retired. Did I say that? Yeah, it could have been. Even if you were I was probably taking some of that Delta 8 What's it called? The stuff they have out here? Delta 8, it's legal It's a legal loophole, legal weed Yeah, I'm all fucked up on Delta 8, son You had a Delta 8? Oh, there's a bunch of Delta 8 out here But are you still using it?

1:43:19It's legit? Oh yeah, sure it is It's at a gas station Like boner pills They work Talk to Redband One of those makes your nose bleed really bad Redband stuff Those aggressive rhinos, whatever those ones are. They make your fucking nose bleed. Red Band's a connoisseur. He'll tell you what the good ones are. Oh, I went down the road. I used to get them from India. I used to get all that shit. From India. Yeah. But what would you paint, dude? That's what I was thinking. I was just thinking about you painting. I was lying. You were? Yeah, I had to be. I'm not interested in painting. Come on, man. No, man.

1:43:52If I was going to retire, you know what I would do. I want to damn let the graph, dude. You know, if I was going to retire, I would just bow hunt and play pool. That's what I would do. If I said I don't want to do anything for money from now on I would bow hunt and play pool I try to play pool for money, but I'll never win any money I can never beat the best guys if you think you could have devoted so much as much time Do you because that's one thing you start to learn about life? It's like I only have so much time Right if you could have devoted as much time You think you think you could have been really good at it cuz I know you really loved it pool was a if pool You really love it sport when I was in my 20s 100 % I would have become a professional pool player 100 % I wanted to play pool all the time because it was a Population of misfits.

1:44:32That's what it was. It wasn't just the game itself. It was the misfits It was I always felt like a misfit when I was a kid I felt like a misfit, you know moved around a lot. My parents broke up when I was young It's like I never felt like I fit in anywhere until I started hanging around the pool I was like, oh these guys are just like me They're all people that they're just too ADD to ever keep a real job. Yeah They're just nutty people and they all had like different things that they did for money But what they were really obsessed with was that game was playing pool and going to pool halls because you'd go to pool halls And it was a bunch of guys like you just a bunch of weirdos who are just wanting to laugh and have fun and Play this game.

1:45:12Yeah. Yeah, maybe yeah that maybe that would be nice and painting the problem is You know I look I love art if I was called to paint, like if it felt like something, maybe I would get into doing it. But that's not what I'm interested in right now. You know? Maybe I would be. But I don't think so. You know, I think if I retire, I'm just going to pursue interests. I'm just going to like learn languages and shit. Just do something different. I don't think when I stop doing this, I'm ever going to do anything else publicly. I won't want to anymore. I get to a point where I think a lot of people get to where they just like I'm one off this ride Do you ever wear a disguise when you go places like if you every day?

1:45:59I'm wearing a disguise right now

1:46:03Like tall Biden remember when they had the fake Was that real? That was that a tall guy? Tall guy get fucked a tall guy pretended to be but 100 % wasn't Biden the CIA has had like super sophisticated Outfits look if you seen Adam Ray when he when he dresses up like dr. Phil. Yes, you forget pretty fucking good He did we did a I saw that I did it by the bro I mean and this is like easy two hours of makeup. They're not even trying to make him look really looks real He looks like 20 minutes in his car to put yeah All you need is a dude with similar face structure to Biden and you can make him Biden 100 % and I think they definitely did that fuck i think there was a point in time where he was later america we're protecting you theo vaughn we can't have china think that our president is down and that kamala harris is running the military come on son we know what we're doing pull up the photo what about the video of the tall biden because there ain't no way it's the same dude because he wasn't even a little taller bring that honky up you know what i'm saying it wasn't it wasn't like it wasn't the president it wasn't like, you know, it was like Bobby Lee next to Ari.

1:47:15Yeah. I was like, something is different. Not the same guy. He's so much taller. He was like six inches taller. Like not a little taller. And they're like, we got nobody? No, we got nobody. Look at the size of this motherfucker. Oh, get fucked. That's not real, dude. That's real. Look at the size. Who the fuck is that? Look at the size of his legs. Is that Will Ferrell? Bro, that guy's a basketball player. They got some Look at the difference in size. So that's the real Biden. And Trump really met him? And that's the real Obama. Right? Real Obama, real Biden. Now give me fake Biden again. No, no, no.

1:47:54Fake one. The giant. No, no, no, no, no. The giant one when he's walking around. This one. This video. Who is that? Bro, look at how much taller he is than Jill. He's never that much taller than Jill. Jill's wearing heels, son. Look at her heels. See her heels elevated in the back? She's wearing heels. He's towering over her. That's a giant Biden. That's Sasquatch. Wow, that's really, really interesting. Do people have done like a comparison to his height compared to like what he normally is? Tall Biden was a real thing. Do you think what happens to him after he goes away in office? What happens to him?

1:48:33Jimmy Carter. He votes like this. You think? He can't wait to vote for Pete Buttigieg. They roll them out there. Who controls Joe Biden if he's not controlling himself? Whoever is letting him fucking pardon 8 million people. Some of the guys said they don't want the pardon. Do you see that? Bro, he's pardoned more people than anybody ever by a long shot. He's got Alzheimer's. Tiger King, too, somebody said. Oh, he better pardon Tiger King. I think he did. Didn't he just? Somebody said he just pardoned him. Did he? That can't be real. I saw that it's a little overinflated because of all the marijuana charges that got added in.

1:49:09For Tiger King? They threw all those people in. No, and Joe Biden's pardoned. Oh, I want to see that mad slurper get back out. That's a good thing that he's doing that, but he's still pardoning more people than anybody ever. Bro, when Tiger King gets back out here, fucking wait, America. He'll be a guest on this podcast. Oh, yeah. With a knee brace, pistol on his hip. With that whip? Yeah. He'll try to fuck Jamie for sure. He's going to fucking slurp on somebody, dude. He again lobbies for presidential pardon. Jamie, what are the odds this guy tries to fuck you if we bring him in the studio? No way.

1:49:37It's 100%. Not that he's going to fuck you. No way would he. I'd be the first one on his list. I'd have all the people in the building. I don't know. You're the guy who moves on. We'll hold him back by the hips. We'll have side control on him. He moves on you. You're a nice guy. I shaved my mustache. Maybe that's what it is. The mustache. He's trying, but they're not going to let him out. Maybe they should. I don't know. I don't know. I wonder if he got out of this and wonder what kind of job he would get into. They're not going to let him work offshore or whatever. Stuffed animals. He's all his own stuffed animals.

1:50:09Yeah, open his own Build-A-Bear, Build-A-Tiger You know He's just in there helping you stuff it Yeah, you stuff it And then the little recording thing When you have the little thing in there Where you press the button and it gives a little recording One of my kids, I used to have one for one of my daughters Where she'd squeeze it and say, Daddy loves you Oh, that's sweet It was adorable That's what he's going to do He's going to do that for people Same thing I want to suck your cock Daddy loves you I want to suck your cock Hey,

1:50:42what you doing with all that cut? I think this has got me. Take me to the river. I'm looking around just Twitter, and he tweeted that yesterday. No, he didn't. Look at that. Please repost, comment, and tag anyone if you can show support right now more than ever. Why am I in the back? Is that really true? That's a real photo. You don't forget it happening? You don't remember that podcast? That was right after you did Bertie Sanders. That guy came in. What is it like for you can I ask you this you're like interviewing legitimate people now like you interviewed Trump you interviewed Bernie Sanders you interviewed Who else J.D.

1:51:20Walsh who else you interview you've even read a lot of like very interesting people Well, you enjoying that yeah, I think I am man. I think it's been I've been trying to learn more You know, so that's been one of my goals you're doing a great job because you can't mean you get silly you're still yourself you know you're still silly but you're having like real conversations with these people thanks you know bob kennedy yeah for sure i mean i knew bobby which was lucky and we were going through vermont and bernie said he would come on the podcast so that was super fortunate and then um dana helped you know i wanted to talk to trump because his brother had died of alcoholism and it was like a world that i had like spent a lot of my life like you know in and dealing with and so i wanted to like just see what he like if he was normal about something like that i guess so yeah but i think it's been interesting um i think it felt like a lot of responsive i got i started to have some ego issues i think i was just trying to be like you know just know what you're doing man like you don't have some big responsibility i think i had this ego trap where it maybe felt i just had to kind of manage some stuff for a little bit but i've been feeling better now i think um like what what was the trap i think you just start to think oh well I'm important right and it's okay if I am like it's okay if I have importance to myself and and there's things that I want to like examine and learn for myself and and that sort of thing but your role as an important person right you started thinking about that because you're getting a lot of views right I think it started to just scare me so I just I got nervous and then I had people that would ask me about stuff that I felt like I didn't know about or people would think that I knew more than I did or like I had something to do with like the election like things like that made me super kind of nervous got it and so i think i just was kind of trying to manage that for a bit and um but i've been feeling like better about it and i know some places are things to be funny some places are things that mean something to me just like learning about health care and people getting screwed like there are some like smaller causes i can't learn about everything but there's some things that i do care about that i can like like seek more information about you know and then to just try to get more interested in things like just be you know learn open myself up to learn about more things, you know?

1:53:28That's the key. It's like knowing when to just listen, when to try to be funny, just fuck around, learn how to be yourself. The more you do them, the more relaxed you get when you do them. Yeah, that happens too. I mean, this is probably the most relaxed I've felt like being around you today, you know? Around me? Yeah, I think I just like, yeah, sometimes you get nervous. Do you get nervous just because so many people are listening? Is that what it is? The numbers? yeah i think at first and then i think um yeah i mean i look up to you i think and so i are you know and you're you know you're the champ you're the best and so it's like i don't know if it's a nerd i don't know what it is but there's sometimes i feel some thing you know well thank you but you don't need to you don't need to feel that like you and i've been friends for a long fucking time you could be yourself yeah you remind me of that and i appreciate it you know because it does it does help i think it's just like an old thing of like um it's like an old energy thing that doesn't make any sense anymore you know yeah but sometimes like that template is still there a little bit right right well that's a hollywood template right like the people that are more established and bigger it's like oh there's johnny carson yeah no there's that you know gets oh yeah yeah yeah you always anytime i think that way you always bring it back down to a super normal place so thank you um but it should be super normal that's really the appeal of all this that we do is that it is super normal is that a guy like you can have no pretense and just ask bernie Sanders questions like why the fuck are they getting away with this like why why is it structured this way why are these corporations stealing all this money and fucking everybody out all these you know why was why is this happening yeah and those are it's if you can have those real conversations this is the only place where they exist then you're never going to get these kind of conversations on a late night talk show you don't you're not going to get them they don't have these kind of that there's it's not possible you you can't go into depth about things there's no way you can go for hours and hours just talking to people who can't do it yeah yeah man and i think it's interesting it's like you know there's still things that i want to do in my life personally and there's like talking with people has helped me a ton you know like even just confidence from being like you know from getting to talk with different ufc fighters and things over the years like there's a lot of like people that i've gotten to speak to or people i've heard on your shows and other shows that inspire me like in little moments of my life you know like it's important you know um yeah, so I don't know I definitely I mean I feel like you know, I just want to you know try my best keep learning I don't know and just have a good time too.

1:55:53Well, you seem like you're having a good time. Yeah, and you're doing a great job You really are and you're getting really good at it Like the more you do it the better you get at it. You can really tell there's a lot of good people podcasting now It's an awesome time you and Tim Dillon so did that episode the last one you guys did he's the best He's the absolute best at the rant nobody else no champ like him he's the number one he's the michael jordan of the rant yeah even seeing shane seeing shane for literally my mom texted me last night she's like i uh that's shane gillis he just makes some of the best faces right away and so even earlier we go back to you like i got shane gillis back here i thought you were it was like a new beverage or something you had made and uh so i go back and there's a sauna back there by your gym you never saw the gym before I can't believe you never saw the gym.

1:56:41The gym's pretty dope, right? Yeah, the gym's great, but I didn't think he had a Shane Gillis on tap. So we fucking go in there, and there's a meat closet where you're drying aged beef. I actually do have one of those. Yeah, of course. And there's a fucking full-body strap of Shane Gillis hanging in that bitch. And he just puts his head up near the glass. And that moment alone, like, oh, that was the best. Doesn't it make you want to move here? Yeah, it definitely helps, man. I'm starting to look. Because I'm not having, I got to get a family soon too, dude. Get yourself a nice Texas girl. I know.

1:57:13I am. Come on, bro. I am. I'm motivated. Ladies, let's put that energy out there. Get Theo a nice Texas girl. I know they're out here. There's a ton of them out here. This is the greatest place in the world to be a single guy like you. Is it? Yeah. It seems very diverse here too. People are friendly. They're genuinely friendly. And they're not friendly because they want something from you like L.A. They're not friendly because you're famous and friendly because they want to get famous too. They're just friendly. Oh, yeah, they're fun. Nice people living their life. They're fun, boy. Theo Vaughn, I love you to death.

1:57:43I love you too, man. Thanks for everything. This is the end of part two. There it is. That's both of them. Jamie, thanks so much, dude. Nice to meet your dog for the second time. Powerful Carl. Look at him over there. Powerful guy. Is he awake yet? He's waiting. He wakes up when? He wakes up right around now. He's like, probably about time for me to get up and start terrorizing people again. Like China. All right. Bye, everybody. Now I'm just floating on the breeze. And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take...