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41:27And therefore, your situation in comparison to them is going to be a lot better. And then what do I want my life to be like day to day? Do I want it to be this constant net? Like, or do I want to not think about those things and think that those are the government's, you know, some of that's the government's responsibility. I do my best to elect and vote in a way that I think is meaningful and vote for the best person. And then I try to enjoy my life and take care of my family and my neighbor. You know, I think it's like, I don't know, that's kind of how I think maybe I start to break it down in my head, you know?

41:57Yeah. So, um, that, that, that, what you were describing right there is, is, uh, basically the heart of, I wouldn't say the problem necessarily, but that, that is why a lot of people just like tune out because they feel just powerless at the end of the day. You know, you got your protests, you vote, and then these guys do whatever the fuck they want to do. What am I supposed to do is like the, the attitude that the average citizen has in this country and you know that's why things slowly but surely seemingly get worse year over year maybe not for you and i because like i mean we're relatively successful but for like average people for everyday people shit is fucked up and they recognize it but they don't know who is responsible for it and they become so malleable and so open uh to to responding to anybody that will look at anybody that will recognize their frustration and say it's actually because of this and that and i think trump tapped into that so perfectly and that's why he won that's why he defeated the democrats so handily because he was like yes you're angry i'm angry too why are you angry because woke libtards because dei because trans people because uh you know undocumented immigrants undocumented immigrants aren't your fucking landlord they're not the one who's raising the price of rent they don't own the they don't own the mega corporations they're not they're not sitting at the board of black rock you know what i mean it's not a guatemalan migrant that's sitting at the board of black rock uh purchasing all the fucking houses or they're not the real estate developers that refuse to you know uh add to the like much needed supply of housing yeah and instead put a fucking rag and bone in every town dude i fucking hate rag and well it's just like dude don't tear down cool areas and just put up a rag and bone dude it's not fucking cool but no i man it's interesting i never really heard it put like that like and then of course the other things you say these other things to people that doesn't feel you gotta point you have to approach people with something they can point a finger at and it's whatever they're pointing that is close enough where they feel like it can be reached Yeah.

44:10Like, those are things that it's like, but also those are things, like, you label, like, Trump talked about them last night on some of the congressional address. I think it was the party address last night. Yeah. He did, like, a fake State of the Union. It was a joint congressional address. Joint congressional address. Because he talked about some of those things, like DEI. Yeah, bro. They cut DEI. Now planes are fucking falling out of the sky, man. We need to bring Pete Buttigieg back as the transportation secretary. there he needs to fix the problem was he a dog in there no we need black pilots dude first of all black people can jump better so are you not gonna have a fucking black dude in a plane bro i don't know i don't know about the jumping i don't know i don't know how to factor into the to the to the pilot program but still dude you if i see if i saw michael jordan in the cockpit that bitch we're gonna stay up that's how i'm feeling oh 100 like that's where i feel now i now now i i think on you know now we if i get on a plane and i see a white man that dude better be in a polyamorous relationship okay i need that dude sucking dick okay i need i need something i need if he's straight and he's a he's a straight white male that plane is falling dude that's what's going on trump came in he killed dei every day there's another fucking plane crash but is it white dudes doing it here's the thing i'm fucking around it's not i'm not being serious even though even though republicans do think that that is real where they're like oh if there's a black woman pilot that's why planes are falling it's like no dumb ass it's because of fucking capitalism like they've they've literally undercut every aspect of production to make more money they constantly outsource they constantly send certain aspects of manufacturing to to other countries where there's like less regulation and less restrictions that makes them more money and that's why fucking planes are you know the doors are exploding and shit while they're flying in the is that one of the is that one of the real reasons you think it's going on that's 100 the reason why it's going on bring it up see if we can that's a good question why are what because it there seems to be these little times in history where it's like okay for this year it's almost like they press a plane trouble button and it's like oh now there's plane trouble well that's also because uh you know minor incidents happen all the time but the media hyper focuses on them when it becomes like a hot button topic that's what it is um and and there are obviously freak accidents as well like they all freak accidents happen but i think um there's never really like a like a perfect example like a perfect demonstration of why these things are happening more frequently yeah let me see what this even says no there were actually more plane crashes between january 1st 2024 and february 1st 2024 when you compare the same time period this year to last year um so there were more crashes yeah but the difference is the the um the the severity of like one big crash and then people hyper focus on it this happened with uh palestine ohio uh remember when the train derailment happened and everybody's like why aren't they covering this well you know i'm i'm a little bit of a foamer i love i love trains maybe it's because of the autism but like you know how many train derailments happening every year every single year a thousand some of them are minor some of them are major right so every single person hyper focused on this understandably because like they try to do a shitty ass cover-up for it and be like oh no everything is fine and there was gas leaking yeah there was death yeah oh you just feel itchy it's normal yeah just keep drinking the water it's fine that it's green you know shut up but uh because of that then everybody started focusing on all these derailments and they were like what the hell is going on and it's like there's a lot of that that happens all the time it's just the media doesn't pay attention to it because if you paid attention to it all the time you go crazy it's like crime right crime in big cities it's a constant oh yeah you know that is a buddy of mine was staying with me and he's from like the suburbs of Portland, right?

48:14Just like a very white neighborhood. And I'm living, I live in the middle of West Hollywood. And, you know, LA is not like New York or whatever, but it's still a city, right? Every time he heard firecrackers or whatever, like fireworks or whatever, he would freak out. He's like, is that gunshots? I'm like, no, man, that's just fireworks. Like, what are you talking about? And then he would hear like, you know, ambulances or police sirens and he'd freak out. Because like, if you live in a suburb and you hear police sirens yeah some some crazy happen right but if you live in a city you hear it all the time as background noise because you know there's always shit happening there's you know tens of millions of people around um so how are you saying that relates to this um the what what i mean by that is if you pay attention to it with apps like you know next door and citizen and ring and all this stuff you start realizing that like it's happening all the time and it makes you go crazy uh same with train derailments same with plane uh you know plane crashes and whatnot they're a they're a normal part of this process and you gotta look at the data and and try to figure out if this is like truly unique or not and in terms of the plane crashes uh the the deadly nature of some of them is unique uh there there's been some big ones right like with the ronald reagan airport one but outside of that like you know minor bumps at the seattle airport or whatever like that's normal yeah a couple of them were like these planes almost hit each other and they will show you a video and i watched one of them two times i'm like i didn't that shit even look close to me yeah like but they just label it that way it's definitely kind of fascinating then once something happens you start to hyper focus on it more this episode is sponsored by better help i've benefited from therapy you know that jeepers gosh i oh i still and i need more I can't even wait to get online with my therapist later this week.

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50:51Visit betterhelp.com slash theo to get 10 % off your first month. That's better help.com slash Theo. Would you consider yourself a Democrat? What do you consider yourself? No, I'm a leftist. That's what I that's what I say, where I'm I'm very critical of both parties in general. I don't think that either party really represents my interests like the Democrats sometimes will point to things that I care about. And they are, I guess, a little bit closer to the way I see the world and the Republicans are. but um you know i'm actively critical of both parties yeah because i i don't care i don't care about party affiliation i care about like doing right by people i care about you know helping putting the interests of people over the interests of profits for corporations yeah you know i don't i hate it when somebody tries to leave like oh you're mag or you're this type of thing it's like that i've never wanted to be put in a box my whole life i don't feel like there's enough parties really to represent the people.

51:54And I think the more information you get and learn, I think a lot of people start to feel that way. Like, I don't know if this party really represents me, you know? But then there's such conglomerates of so many different little pieces that they almost feel like, well, I like this person in this one. I like this person on the chess team or this rook. So I'm going to, they will get my vote because they have that player, right? But yeah, I think that that's, I think as more people get more information and able to look into things more that that kind of evolves? I think that there's one thing that transcends party boundaries, and I feel like you exhibit that tendency as well, and that is dissatisfaction with the government and the two-party system anyway.

52:39And I think Trump also captured the attention of a lot of people by making it seem like he was totally outside of this dynamic, where he was like, I'm an independent, I'm a billionaire, I'm rich, I don't give a fuck about either of these parties, you know, vote for me. And that's why you have a lot of people who love Bernie Sanders, because he's he's earnest, he's honest. And it's obvious that he's not like, you know, a Democratic Party dick rider. And he has a long track record of like constantly doing right by others, constantly advocating for things that like, you know, help people, even if he doesn't have much success.

53:12that earnesty has, I think, created this unique phenomena. People that like Bernie and also Trump, people like yourself, who think, well, these guys are anti-establishment. Yeah. Well, I think one thing about Trump was like, and I was like, fuck, it made you believe. Because most people knew him from rap songs probably, from being like a rich white guy, having rich guy hair, and then from being on The Apprentice, right? Yeah. Which was a very, you want to know something? It's pretty monumental how that all shaped out. You want to know something crazy about The Apprentice? It was one of the most diverse shows on network television at the time.

53:54It literally was one of the first shows that prominently featured a bunch of black and brown people in it. A bunch of gay people in it, too. He was woke as hell. That motherfucker was doing DEI before anybody else. Now he's switched up. you see this he switched up yeah i remember he gave flavor flavor job working doing it working at a um ice cream shop or something one day i remember seeing that episode so yeah i mean he was like i i just thought there was a moment where it's like oh anybody because you're right he didn't seem like a political insider he seemed like you know i think he's always been this or notoriously has it seemed like he's just been this um kind of like real estate shady real estate executive guy, which I think at a certain point, some people were like, oh, I'll take that.

54:40I'll take a ruthless business guy as our president because politics has become a ruthless business. But I think, yeah, I think there was a thing like, oh, anybody could be president, right? So that in a way felt a little bit like the American dream, or at least a little piece of like anybody that was a feeling like, oh, he got it. There's because nobody thought he would win. Yeah, that's true. So I think there was that comeback piece to him, right? Yeah. But then he was president for four years and people were like, oh, okay, maybe this wasn't so good. And then what did the Democrats do? Who did the Democrats put forth?

55:17They put forth a cadaver who was like, no, we're going back to business as usual, baby. And Americans were so fatigued by Donald Trump, but they were just like, I don't want to pay attention to television anymore. Like, sure, I'll vote for this guy instead. and then Brandon wins and then everyone's like oh my god things are awful wars all over the place Biden you mean cost yeah yeah yeah Biden I just keep saying Brandon I'm sorry I'm so used to I'm so used to calling him Brandon well people say let's go Brandon is like a Trump thing yeah yeah but then I just want people to get confused yeah my bad so Biden comes in and you know wars everywhere cost a living crisis like a lot of the resentment and anger that people felt in 2016 towards Hillary Clinton because their situation wasn't so great that caused them to vote for Donald Trump never it was left unexamined like it was never recognized it was never fixed right so when all the stuff piles on people are resentful again and lo and behold they want to put that mallet they want to bring the mallet back in to just like hammer the federal government because there's like we fucking hate this we hate the the way things are going so we'll give this guy a shot again.

56:31And that's how you arrive at Trump too. And now he is doing the mallet. He's ripping over the administrative state. He's doing mass layoffs of the federal regulatory agencies. And it's crazy to me that people don't understand that these are the same problems that have persisted that he's basically worsening by also removing tens of thousands of people that work for the federal government with like decent paying jobs i'm a big advocate for more government employees i think we should have millions more not less give everybody a fucking job oh well i think that we should have i think women should get paid so that they can be at home with their children and that that way or or a man if one of them wants to work yeah yeah and then the other one can be at home to be a parent you know i wish that that was something that we did with our money.

57:26They would never do that, though. That's the problem. They hate... There was a case for it at one point. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying, like, Republicans especially, Democrats won't do either because, like, both parties kind of like the austerity stuff. Like, they... What does austerity mean? Austerity is belt tightening, like, fiscal belt tightening as in, you know, lowering expenditures and cutting social safety nets, basically. Well, I think people are getting to their wits and where it's like, nobody believes that either one of these parties is doing anything, right? I think... You've had the same problems.

57:56You've had the same things happen time over time. And maybe some of it at a certain point you realize, well, that's just the cost of business. It's just like it's just become so bloated. It's become more about them, like you're saying, more about corporations and less about everyday people. And that's just what it is. Yeah, it's never been about people in my opinion. It's like New Deal with a lot of like socialist communist pressure at the time. FDR's New Deal. Yeah, FDR's New Deal. What was it? Bring it up. But FDR's New Deal definitely brought forth a lot of prosperity to America, like got us out of the muck of the Great Depression.

58:31The New Deal was a series of domestic programs. Sorry to interrupt you. I just want to – was a series of domestic programs, public works projects, and financial reforms and regulations enacted by President FDR in the U.S. between 1933 and 1938 in the 1900s with the aim of addressing the Great Depression, which began in 1929. Wow, dude. So he had to be right on the back of the Great Depression. Yeah. Because people always, they always, like, they'll quote him all the time, you know? Yeah. He did a lot. Look, he dealt with the pressing bank crisis through the Emergency Banking Act, 1933 Banking Act, Federal Emergency Relief Administration.

59:07We set up Social Security. I mean, there's so much. There's so much that they did in that era because, like, Americans were, I mean, they were experiencing tremendous, tremendous hardship. So you're saying a lot of this felt like it was done for the people. Yeah, it was done for the people because it was a necessary – it was basically necessary for them to do this at the time because of all of the deregulation in the banking side with oil barons and all these like robber barons basically like picking apart and dominating everyday American existence and the economic collapse that came with that.

59:45And then someone had to come in and fix this shit. And I think Donald Trump is basically not doing the FDR thing, but the reverse. He's fucking it up and taking it back to like a pre-New Deal era. And giving it more towards corporations, you think? Oh, 100%. I mean, he got Elon Musk right there. He's the richest guy on the planet. He's just putting his dick through his weird, ugly, egg-shaped penis through every single regulatory agency. Have people seen his penis? I haven't seen that. I don't know. I don't see that kind of stuff. Yeah, they were saying he's got a weird dick. Really? I believe it.

1:00:18First of all, yeah. Dude, if I'm Elon Musk, I'm definitely getting a crazy dick. I'm getting a fucking designer dick. I'm getting a two-seater. I'll get a damn three-seater cop. Yeah, they're saying. I'll put suicide doors on my dick if I'm Elon Musk. But here's what I would say is, to counter the thing about Elon is like, or just to discuss it really. um i think people are like we don't give a fuck who's auditing this thing and finally there's like oh this is the person to audit this is the person that's gonna audit this is somebody we can blame if something fucks up this is somebody that at least they're saying that they're gonna audit the government like why why do we even have to audit our own government but we we have see that's the problem we already have an auditing agency so these guys unironically created an additional agency which is redundant to eliminate redundancy and that's interesting the the unfortunate side of this is that um they don't know what the fuck they're doing so they go in and they just like pull data and they basically make these public declarations about you know a billion dollars is going to this or that oh yeah like they they straight up lied they were like oh yeah we already cut like 200 billion dollars of funds and then like the new york times and all these other like actual investigative reporters went in looked at the data and they were like dude that's a lot like there's one instance where they claimed that they cut eight billion dollars and they actually cut eight million dollars like how do you carry over so many goddamn zeros they're just like ah fuck it who cares um no one will fact check it no one will look it up well the crazy thing is though now you have Today I'm 해� pick, and you should check You have whoever our original auditing system was.

1:02:01And then you have this second, and now we have this second auditing system, but dude, it goes to like, it's so like, I'll have a, um, I'll have a financial, like an investment banker. Right. But I, there's times and I probably should, I want to hire somebody to audit my financial advisor. Cause I'm like, is this guy stealing money from me? You know, cause you hear so many stories of people getting stolen from just like entertainment, in different industries, whatever. But it starts to be like, I don't even know who to trust anymore. And I think that's where most people feel like it is. It's like, I don't know if most people necessarily feel like that Elon or Doge is the best, but it's like, now it feels like, okay, well, there's a government system that's supposed to be doing this.

1:02:46And then there's a privatized system that's supposed to be doing this. Now, who's the crook? Who knows? But then I think people look to Elon and they say, well, at least he came when he bought Twitter, which was a brave thing to do it felt like it it opened up more opportunity for free speech like things you couldn't share on there six years ago you could share on there now i'm not saying all that's true i think it sucks now i used to love twitter twitter's got bad it's scary it was already like kind of lame because like yeah when it was owned by liberals it was like also it also wasn't you know the most uh fun platform i will say but at least there was like some semblance of regulation where it didn't feel like you know it it didn't feel like the the madhouse that it is now where i mean i know that it's like my algorithm as well i'm sure because i'm in politics so i see a lot of political shit but bro there's like i mean here i saw this this morning there's a guy who straight up said adam schiff raped a minor at chateau marmont and it has 70 000 likes and i'm like what the fuck it's like a q anon thing i know i saw that there's so many no it's not even this there was a dude who like no this is that's not even adam that is that's fucking if you look at no no that's anthony bourdain they're saying anthony bourdain saw him rape the minor and that's why they actually killed anthony bourdain that's their q anon loves talking about how anthony bourdain saw like hillary clinton chop babies up or whatever and he was right about to come out against them but if you look up truanon um truanon actually uh no no truanon on twitter what is truanon is it a cool source uh truanon is my uh my friend's podcast it's the number one anti-pedophilia podcast out there here no way and then keep scrolling they posted it oh here it is here it is awakened outlawed that's the one the witness is anonymous anonymously one of the most persistent qanon believes is the huge number of people think that you know some of us remember when you raped a dead child 76 000 likes damn bro that's crazy like i fucking hate adam schiff right okay yeah trump's funniest thing is when he calls him adam shit okay i hate him he's my he's my fucking congressperson he sucks all right massive pro-israel guy that's an insane thing you you are a fucking schizo like what the fuck but that's the crazy thing now people will just you see things and then you start to believe it oh dude i realized twitter starts like it'll start to rot my mind i'll start to get and then it feeds you something it's like that's a scary and that's another scary thing just about social media it's about where we're at things just feel so you don't know what to you'll open it up you'll close it now you're furious all you were doing was looking for something your phone yeah you're bored for 10 seconds you opened it up now you got two links to some shit now you're furious now you close it now you're back in the grocery store where you were a minute ago you're on the fucking food aisle but you are you're angry you're apeshit insane that a kid a deceased kid somewhere hypothetically got molested by a by a sitting american represent like an american congressperson get yeah yeah and then it's like you want to buy a pussy fart coin or whatever and you're like and then you don't even know what to do retardio yes it's like oh retardio is going to the moon and you have all these fucking clan members or whatever We're trying to sell it.

1:06:12Like, just, it just, it's gotten, it's crazy. But that's what I mean. Like, they, it was, like, Twitter sucked before. It was different crazy before. But it was, it was definitely not whatever the fuck this is. And there's so much bottom of the barrel shit, too, because of the monetization stuff. Like, people, one of my favorite funniest things that I experience all the time on Twitter is, like, you got, like, you know, Genoa Radio. Or, like, saving the white race. Or, we got to save the West accounts, right? They have all these fucking accounts. Every single motherfucker on those accounts is from India.

1:06:47Every single motherfucker that does the we must preserve the white race, every single one of them is operating those accounts out of India. Wow. Because. Why, I wonder. What do you mean? Because you make like$10,$15. That goes a long way in India. Oh, that's a good point. As opposed to like a real racist in America. Well, that's DEI at another level. Yeah, they're using all of those accounts. Like there's all of those big prominent, like, you know, white culture accounts. Honkies do it better or whatever. Well, I don't know about the honkies one, but because honky seems like, you know, I don't think a dude in India knows what a honky is.

1:07:22But I'm talking like the culture critique, save the white race accounts and all those like defend Europa accounts. Like every single one of them is like, it's like a Malaysian dude. You know what I mean? And he's just like, yeah, I'm gonna make$50 this month. That's a big, you know, that's good. Yeah, he's just in there Yeah, and you know They post like the shittiest fucking videos As well It's unbelievable It's too much porn It's too much porn Because I'll be trying to take care of myself Doing decently I'll just see something An edge of a tit or something flies by And then it just is like You can just get stuck pretty easy Jerking off or whatever And then I get sad And then I get ashamed of myself And then I don't even sleep in my bed on those like dude on nights like that i will sleep on the couch it's almost like i don't need it's like damn i know it's like i'm a it's like i'm divorced in my own fucking and i just live alone it's like oh there's like it's almost like i'm a husband that got caught jerking off so now you're sleeping out on the couch you got to resolve them man there's nothing wrong with jerking off especially before you go to sleep you know it's like a nightcap yeah kind of but if you had so many nightcaps over like 20 30 years you're like i'm fucking i'm an alcoholic at this point you know i don't know i mean i've never i feel like i feel like there's a time and place for that in my in my regimen you know what i mean it's like right before i go to sleep it's the perfect time to do it there's never been a moment where i like in the middle of the day i'm like yeah i've never been that guy shit i gotta crank it but i feel like a lot of those like porn addiction guys are like that so i'm like yeah yeah it's not it's not for me but maybe you should stop porn.

1:08:59That's how I feel when I hear about some of their stories. Oh, yeah. I had a buddy who had curtains put inside of his car and he would go and close them up so he could sit in his car and masturbate without feeling like people were going to point at him or whatever. What the fuck? Yo, that dude needs to be institutionalized. What do you mean? No. Put a fucking stray jacket on that motherfucker. Stop. He's got to be put in a room like train spotting. He's got to quit cold turkey like he's quitting heroin. in Soho that's considered off-Broadway yeah no no way dude no render him immobile for like a week and oh my god the amount of energy that he probably has in there trapped in there if he doesn't jerk off for a week he's gonna start levitating he's gonna come out of there like like a god his car to start running on his own on his own semen or whatever I shouldn't have said that part but you had Bernie Sanders on your show I did yeah Pretty cool, man.

1:09:57How awesome was that? Yeah, he's the man. I love Bernie. Did you find it interesting that people cheered so much against him when they said that he also took money during like, remember that a couple of months ago? Not a judgment against him. I think all these people, I think when you get into politics, right, it's almost like being in a big family. And if you want something done, it feels like you have to. It's almost just like. Took money from what, though? Well, what did they say that he took money from? Oh, RFK said it. That was. During that, when he was interviewing RFK. During RFK's hearing.

1:10:27Yeah, that's not correct. He never got money from the pharmaceutical industry, like from the big corporate lobbyists. He probably got... So the way this works on Opus Secrets is like... Let me just read it. The figure cited by Kennedy referred to the industry in which individual donors were employed. Yeah. Okay. Because Kennedy said that Bernie Sanders got a certain amount of money. And this is just a clip. This is actually a perfect example of what we've been talking about, where you see a clip of something, right? In 2020, this was the claim, Senator Bernie Sanders was the single largest receiver of pharmaceutical money in Congress.

1:11:06And the context was this figure cited by RFK Jr. referred to the industry in which individual donors were employed. It did not refer to funds originating from or directed by pharmaceutical companies. So what that is is the way that they, the way that when you make a donation to a politician as an individual, it gets filed with the FEC, right? And in that filing, you write what your job is, right? And if you work in the pharmaceutical industry, if you work for Johnson & Johnson as a janitor, that basically gets tracked as like Johnson & Johnson in the section of like whichever sector you're a part of.

1:11:42So like a lot of nurses gave donations to Bernie Sanders. So that's like technically still lobbed under like healthcare. and uh it was not yeah it was never it was never from like the executives it wasn't like executives giving him millions of dollars it's like the fucking janitor works there or like you know like an accountant that works for this company but it gets filed yeah so that it looks like that in some sort of well they just it's good to have like uh knowing what sectors are donating knowing sectors are donating but yeah there is room for nuance of course there and um and rfk was falsely claiming that he was getting money from like CEOs and like the industry, uh, industry packs or whatever, when that wasn't the case, it was just like random people that work for these companies, you know?

1:12:28Yeah. I think it makes, I mean, it totally makes sense to me that that's the way that it could happen, you know? Um, but it's so funny. RFK probably saw a clip or heard, you know, it's just like, it's so it's like, I think RFK knows better. I don't, I don't trust any of these guys. I'll be honest with you. Like whether it's RFK, Trump or any number of these people or, you know, Democrats as well, like Kamala Harris, like I think RFK definitely knows better. He's just saying that because it's a good line and people will believe him. Yeah. And I mean, look, that's how it works. I know because like Joe Rogan talked about it, too, where they were talking about like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders getting money from like these, you know, big pharmaceutical corporations.

1:13:06That wasn't the case, but it got a lot of mileage on that side of the Internet. That's the other thing that I am frustrated by, where there's like no consensus on this stuff anymore like what does a consensus mean like we all agree on one thing yeah and you don't have to agree on one like not everybody has to get together and agree on the same thing but like there's no there's no established truth anymore where everybody's just like operating on whatever the fuck they think is the is the truth and and heavily leaning into their biases and i feel like the internet has become way more echo chambered in that regard and it's very frustrating to see you know there's no there's no what do you say con con consensus consensus so there's no like regional place you can go to except now almost your own gut or if you're influenced by clips or whatever right yeah but we're dumbasses you know what i mean like we're we're fucking stupid i'm stupid like i can't i can't gut check everything like i can't even fucking keep up with you dude i feel you but what i'm saying is is that better than us all being under the influence of some consensus.

1:14:10I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just looking at it. I think it's, it's good to have a healthy diet of both, right? Like you still need to have trusted resources that you can go to and rely on, uh, that will every now and then be like, that's wrong. You know what I mean? And, and I try to urge people to not get their media diet exclusively for me either for that reason. And even my media diet itself is incredibly diverse. I probably watch more Fox news than I watch like CNN and shit, partially because they're more entertaining. Um, but, um, you know, I, I, I look at everything so that I can develop a better understanding of like what people are saying and what people are believing in general.

1:14:47I need to do a better job of that. I think of finding my information diet and just where does it come from? It's not, I just don't get enough of it. A lot of times, a lot of times I operate mostly just like on my own feelings kind of, which is in the end, kind of your instincts or whatever. But then I start to notice that things that I get influenced by and like my own algorithm them and things. I was like, Oh, I'm fucking getting influenced. You know, I'm up last night in the middle of the night and it's like, have I reposted too many tick tocks about Gaza, you know? And I'm up for 40 minutes last night laying in my bed and my brain's calculating it for, but shit like that, you know, it's like, but it's just cause I'll get to my, you know, it's like none of it's bad stuff really, but it's, um, I'll notice if I get on my Twitter thing, especially I'll get angry.

1:15:31I get, and then I'm like, if I'm at least aware of this is happening, people that aren't aware that aren't even thinking like, oh, this is affecting me. They're just being affected. Then it's like, man. My my the way I see my goal, like the way I see my job is to basically get people to understand why they're angry and then get angry at the appropriate vectors, like where who's actually causing harm in their immediate lives. That's why I actively urge people to unionize and work to organize in their communities and organize in their in their workplaces in general. So they have a network of support with like, not necessarily even like-minded people, but like people that have the same interests, right?

1:16:09You don't have to like your coworkers all that much, but no matter what, your boss is still fucking you over in the exact same way, right? He wants you to work the most amount of hours for the least amount of pay. You want to work the least amount of hours for the most amount of pay. This is a contradiction, right? So how do you resolve that? The only way to overcome the unlimited amount of power that your boss has over you is by getting together and being like, hey man, you got to give us a better contract, right? Like those are the things that I advocate for so that people develop a better understanding of who's actually harming them and maybe improve their lives immediately in the short term and then build on that momentum.

1:16:54With that said, do you think we should have like a higher minimum wage, do you feel like? I mean, I think that's one part of this story, but it's not i've thought about it a lot i've listened to people talk about it yeah i think it's good but that's still a band-aid solution i think like there needs to be more uh labor-backed control in general like unions and stuff yeah labor unions yeah we have we have uh 10 union participation rate in this country is lower than other countries that we fucked up like chile like we fucked up chile we did a coup there we set up a dictatorship and they still are able to unionized more than us.

1:17:28Yeah, and we wrote, we rewrote their constitution, and they still have a higher union participation rate than we do. They have 15 % in Chile. We have 10%. Do you say, because I, we had the Teamsters president, one of the Teamsters union presidents on. Oh yeah, you had Sean O 'Brien? Yeah, he was interesting. I've interviewed him before. I've had some convos on him. He has a podcast now. Oh, he does? Yeah. I didn't know that. I saw him at the inauguration. It's just interesting that I'd never talked to a Teamsters union president. I've heard of the team series, you know, I watched Newsies or whatever, like when I was a kid, a bunch.

1:18:02But it was just interesting to see that, you know, to learn about unions and see how they work. And then some people are like, well, once you get unionized, it's hard to, you don't have as much individuality. So if I'm super hardworking, I'm self-motivated, then maybe I don't want to be a part of the union, you know? Yeah. But I could see that as a safety net for people to have a union against corporations, like, yeah, to me, it makes perfect sense. It's like, yeah, otherwise they're going to clean out your pockets. They're going to, that's look, every union, every union member will tell you like the motto for unions is united.

1:18:36We bargain divided. We beg, right? You can either go in and be like, I'm such a good guy, please. Like, look at how hard I'm working. And then in the off chance, maybe get recognized by your boss and maybe get a little bit extra money on the side, or you can get together with your, you know, you can get together and engage in the act of collective bargaining and force the company's hand into offering you better benefits and basically claw back the profits that you're generating for them. Because without the workforce, you got nothing. What do you think, the fucking CEO is going to build the table?

1:19:07No, you know what I mean? He doesn't know the first thing about building tables, right? It's just going to, all there's going to be is a bunch of wood on the factory floor without you, right? Workers are the ones who add the value, who generate the value. Yeah, Bernie has a good, Bernie had a good thing about that. He said that, well, if we're going to shorten people's work weeks, right, he was talking about having a shorter work week. Yeah. And then that since companies' profits are going up, then the employees, the amount that they should make should go up. It's like it shouldn't just be the company at the top that has the increase.

1:19:41Yeah. So, I mean, AI is a perfect example of this, right? Like it's very disruptive to the environment. I don't like that. but more importantly also on top of that it's it's used as a way to displace the existing labor force right um because now you can just get the machine to do the job of the person that was doing the job beforehand i'm an advocate that like no you should still keep that person employed pay him the same amount of money make him work less why i mean why are you firing this person now because ai is a tool right right but the way that we the way that companies work under capitalism is whenever there's a technological advancement like this right this has allowed us to be on 24 7 now you can have so much more output as a worker right you can be you you can you can be online at all times productivity rises in that process your boss can get a hold of you at all yeah your boss can get a hold of you at all times uh you're more tapped in you're more you're more aware of what's going on in the world and uh and and you can be a better worker because of that but in that process bosses look at that and go okay now i can make one guy do the work of five i'm gonna fire four fucking people and i'm gonna make the one guy do the work of uh the other four people and that is how uh that is under capitalism that's how it works where they use technological advancements that increase productivity to displace the existing labor force to just basically fire them and instead of lowering the hours that the existing workforce worked and maybe even increasing their pay in the process because they're still doing the same work you know what i mean and because they're fucking human beings like that's why at a certain point it has to tip towards an actual revolution where people pick up and i don't know if we can say this or not but i'm i mean i say it all the time people call me radical for that really i'm a big revolution guy i've always had little dreams of like semi-revolutions or like regional or whatever at least i hope at least i can make it to the regional revolution like i understand if i don't make it to the national but i want to be on a horseback or at least on a fucking standing next to a counter one of the one of our like bosses or whatever like i want to why see that's because that is fucking overthrowing the system i know but think about the way you presented that you want a count or a boss to to be the leader of the revolution somebody's gonna have to have some sort of no i agree but it should be people back revolution that's what yeah people but one of us gets mildly elected or something but not a boss or a fucking politician those guys or a count is going to be it's going to be a uh an organizer an activist someone with a someone with a background uh someone who understands the needs of the people it's going to be somebody also who works at a renaissance fair full-time who can be on a horseback who can handle the type of when you think about i'm not even joking it's on it's kind of crazy but you will need a dude who's fucking I am willing to ride through here with a spear.

1:22:38But yeah, at a certain point, if you let so many people go just to appease a company, to appease corporations, you're just going to have more. Those people have to at some point. There has to be a revolution. Isn't that how revolutions happen? Yeah, I mean when conditions worsen to a certain degree, yeah, people go, all right, enough is enough. We're backed into a corner and they start recognizing that like they're being fucked over. but that can also lead to a dangerous path where uh you know about that well the dangerous part about that is like if they're if the people are not steered in the right direction to to recognize who's actually doing the harm to them they can be diluted by misinformation and think it's uh the jews or think it's uh fucking anthony bourdain or yeah i think it's a adam schiff uh who's apparently having sex with dead children in their minds or think it's like the guatemalan immigrant You know what I mean?

1:23:31That motherfucker is not controlling your life. He is worse off than you. And he has the exact same interests as you. He just wants to put food in his belly and to have a roof over his head. Are you talking about Guatemalans that came over the border and stuff? Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Like a Guatemalan immigrant or a Honduran immigrant is not like, he's not dominating your life at all. They're not here to do evil. They're not here to do bad. They're here to just like work. They're fucking pig strawberries all goddamn day. So our asses can eat those strawberries cheap as hell. You know what I mean?

1:24:00And then we turn around and we're like, yeah, they're all rapists, drug dealer, murderers. We got to fucking purge the country of these people. And it's like, it's really fucked up. How would you, how do you successfully do something like that then? Because I think a lot of people's concern, I think here's what happens is you're like, I'm not safe anymore. Right. And you start to feel right. There's people that get that that were raped or killed. There was a couple instances where they that they put them on the news. Right. They were on the congressional. You know, they had some of the Trump had them.

1:24:30Trump had them at the victims, at the joint congressional hearing. Right. So I think you hear about those things and you're like, well, yeah, you'll start to apply them to everyone. Which is crazy. Think about that. We say there's 20 million undocumented migrants in this country. They come from every part of the planet. And to think that they're all one collective hive mind that's here to do evil rapes and shit is psychotic. I'm like, bro, they don't even speak each other's language. What are you talking about? Like they have no unified hive mind here, but you, you basically learn to think that way.

1:25:05You learn to hate in that regard. And I think the media plays a big role in this, like right wing media specifically. Is it hate though? You think? Cause it's like, I just fear. Okay. So I, cause to me, it's like, have a fucking organized system. If I go to a, dude, I go to, I went to Canada a couple of days ago. It was heck. It was heck getting in and out of there. It's heck getting out of there. It's super organized. you know it's like but we should it just because here's the thing if you don't know who's in your country then you can't do a correct census you can't allocate things correctly to people you can't know who needs what in certain areas that's why they also factor undocumented migrants into the census as well but if they're fearful of the federal government if they're fearful of the federal government they're not going to open the door for a census guy that's part of the reason why sanctuary cities began to begin with it was actually advocated for this is something that this is old lore people don't even know this at this point because everybody thinks like oh sanctuary cities is woke libtard bullshit bro it was the fucking cops and the fbi that was advocating for sanctuary cities why because whenever a murder or or some kind of like violence happened in an undocumented neighborhood cops would come in and nobody would talk to them so they were like don't worry time so we can hear that's important i never knew sanctuary cities initially were proposed by law enforcement because they realized that whenever there was violence or like, you know, drug dealing or a murder that took place in an area where the witnesses were undocumented migrants, they wouldn't talk to the cops because they were fearful that if they talked to the cops, they were going to get fucking deported.

1:26:39So in order to open up more collaboration and actually solve crimes like rape, murder and all these other like violent crimes, they were like, we have to tell every undocumented migrant, like, we're not going to arrest you. We're not going to collaborate with ICE or INS at the time before ICE existed. We are we're just here to serve you as public servants. And that was the reason why it was law enforcement that initially suggested sanctuary cities. It wasn't like woke activists or whatever. And it's so interesting that like now Republicans say it used it as a catch all term to be like, oh, bring it on.

1:27:13You're letting criminals go. Basically, that's what they that's what they make it seem like. That's what they imply. Bring that up. How did sanctuary cities get started? That's fascinating, man. Sanctuary City policies were not originally proposed by law enforcement. But they've come to support them for public safety reasons. In the 1980s, when churches in the United States provided refuge for individuals escaping civil unrest in El Salvador, Sanctuary City specifically emerged from protests against federal immigration policies that denied asylum to refugees. However, many law enforcement officials, including police chiefs, have advocated for sanctuary policies.

1:27:44They argue that these policies help build trust. Trust between immigrant communities and local law enforcement. This trust is crucial for encouraging immigrants to report crimes and cooperate with police investigations. Sanctuary policies allow police to focus on local priorities and prevent crimes. Wow, that's interesting, man. I wonder, though. What's that? I'm sorry? What is the AI search engine or some shit? What is this? Yeah, this is perplexity, but they have all the sources cited. All right. I think it's interesting then, though. I wonder how many cities then jumped on it as a, even on the democratic side to say like, or left side, whatever you want to call it, but like to say, oh, I better be a part of this now if I want my voters to then vote for me.

1:28:25You know what I'm saying? Like, so sometimes like the political kickball gets created one way, but it also gets used in a field in another way. Well, it's not, I don't think it's a bad thing anyway. Like I, cause I'm, I'm a, I'm a active amnesty advocate. Like, I think if, first of all, this is a civil offense. Crossing the border is a civil offense. Right. Right. And you have a five-year period where if you haven't done any crimes, like, the statute of limitation is over. Now, there's different legal, there are different legal interpretations of this, and people go back and forth on it. But, like, the way I think about it is, like, if a dude is in here and they're working, right, and they're not trying to do a, you know, they're not here to do evil shit.

1:29:07They're here to just simply work. Give them fucking, give them documentation. The difference between an undocumented migrant and a documented one is just a piece of paper, is paperwork. Process these people and allow them to contribute to our coffers in more meaningful ways. Because they already pay taxes, but they could be paying more taxes as well. Do they pay taxes if they're undocumented? Yeah. Because they still, I think they still pay into social security because they have to get a social security number, some sort of social security number. They pay for sales taxes, things of that nature.

1:29:38You know what I mean? Like there's, there's a bunch of different contributions that they make and they can't take advantage of any of the, uh, the, the, uh, government programs anyway. That's why a lot of Republicans lie. They'll be like, oh, undocumented migrants are like stealing our, uh, you know, our social safety nets. And I'm over like, I'm over here like, what the fuck, what social safety nets do we have? What are they, we don't have healthcare. Like what, what are they, are they taking advantage of healthcare that we don't have? They don't have healthcare. the thing is they will Republicans will literally factor in their natural born US citizen children into the equation to be like see they're sending their children to public schools it's like bro that's an American citizen right the child is an American citizen yeah one in 15 households in this country is a mixed status household one in 15 oh yeah you can't even everybody's mixed now it feels like mixed status like as in one parent is uh undocumented like a non-citizen oh yeah yeah so it's probably mexican a lot of times i would bet and that's just even my mexican friends are always like you know my uncle's in the back or whatever they'll say you know and i don't say anything but it's like i you know i think it's interesting it's interesting like what things get how things get framed right by the media how things get used how things like even programs I was like, Sanctuary City, how does it then get manipulated and used as like a negative thing or as a thing where one party feels like, well, I better declare as this or I'm going to be out of the money, whatever the next thing is.

1:31:13Yeah, I mean, there's definitely an incentive structure among politicians to advocate for certain things. But ultimately, I don't really care what the incentive structure is if the legislation is good, if it's a good thing. If Trump were to do a good thing, I would advocate for it as well. You know what I mean? Do you think that's true? Because it seems like I have in the past when Trump when Trump last time he was president, when he basically said, I'm going to back away from this North Korea, South Korea shit, and I'm going to let you guys handle it on your own. And in the process, he actually reduced the military campaigns that were taking place around the Korean peninsula to to allow these two countries to talk to one another.

1:31:53It's one country technically that we fucking cut in half. But that's a long history lesson I'm not going to get into. North Korea and South Korea. Yeah. And that was an objectively good thing. Like I said it at the time. I was like, and Rachel Maddow was very mad. He was like, oh, you're doing this because you love Vladimir Putin or whatever the fuck. But like, no, that was not a bad thing. Like let these guys hash it out and let them rebuild their nation. You know, why the fuck are we like, why do we have, you know, 80 ,000 to 100 ,000 troops stationed all the time? You know? Yeah. I mean, yeah, it feels alarming.

1:32:28It feels like you have to have this military thing. I think one thing that I noticed last night was like the military has had a tough time getting recruits, right? Yeah. Recruitment has been down. Yeah. And so part of me always wonders, well, like, did the powers that be then want Republicans to be in office because they know that eventually if people are believing more in their country again, it will incite more recruitments? I'm not saying that that's the truth, but you just start to wonder what the fuck is really going on. I'll tell you what made recruitment numbers explode. Does that make sense to you, though?

1:33:05I mean, I know where you're coming from, but what made recruitment numbers explode initially was 9-11. That's it. People joined after 9-11 and after 20 years of just like going out there and guarding like poppy fields and getting your dick blown off by some fucking dude who's hated you because you invaded his country when he was like 14 and probably killed his cousin. You know, after 20 years of doing that, everyone was like, oh, this shit sucks. We kind of lost it here, huh? Like we did a Vietnam in Afghanistan and we had to pull out. so and that was a good thing objectively i think it's good that we pulled out of afghanistan but um i think that's the real reason why people are like why the fuck would i join the military i can't even get a fucking charger anymore you know they they dodge charger the dodge chargers or was it was it the camaro were they giving those out but they were that's the that's the common military car oh that's true you sign off on one of those the worst loan of all time oh yeah Yeah, dude.

1:34:04And then your high school sweetheart is fucking the neighbor while you're out there. Sometimes. I mean, yeah. While you're out there jerking off in a fucking bunker in Karengal. But some dude's jerking off on you or whatever, and you guys are changing each other's names after 8 p.m. or whatever and shit. I think shit gets pretty melodic out there. That's what I mean. You're like, why the fuck are you doing that? And then you come back, and the American government's like, all right, we'll give you health care. But now you're busted. You need it desperately. And they're like, all right, we'll pay for your college.

1:34:33Okay. You go to college, you get a communications degree. Now you're, you know, six years behind the rest of your counterparts. And you're in the same shit ass job market working, sucking the man's dick every day, working a dead end job that you despise. Yeah, or you're fucked up. And now every time you go to the grocery store to pick out cereal, you're having a crisis like a mental health episode. It's fucked up. well a lot of people will also go into the military learn some uh patterns that helped them to achieve well my buddy josh was in for a while he got out and now he's able to be a good business owner just because he learned you know he got up in the morning you know it just it helped him have some regimen yeah no for sure i don't think that regimen is bad i'm a very regimented person i just think that the military's output overall is is you know you're just sending poor people from uh different parts of the country overseas to go dominate some other poor people so that rich people in fucking california can make more money so the raytheon can send more missiles and and make more missiles and and you got to use those missiles when you make them you know if you don't use it you lose it yeah yeah oh your missiles are going yeah there's somebody said there was an email one time that like oh your missiles are expiring soon you should use them it's like what the fuck but they do that they they any uh if you got homies who uh were active duty they'll tell you like you just dump so much money because they know that like it's gonna go bad yeah like you just fucking shoot it out into the sea if you're in the navy you're just like pop that bitch off get out there after lunch today yeah we're gonna fire a couple of these off and that's your island you're like that's an island like nobody's there yeah you're dumping payload into an island that is more than your salary times 10 because it's going to go bad how is that not waste and fraud and abuse why the fuck are they not working on that my argument always is this the american military is a jobs program that's what it is it's uh the i think it's the second largest uh hiring body in the country after walmart if i'm not mistaken it might be the largest and i think instead of making those guys you know making these corn-fed boys from Arkansas go out and and uh you know force them to eat MREs all goddamn day and and be constipated for a fucking week make them build shit you know make them build shit in America it's a jobs program who cares make the output be good rather than bad that is what my argument is the world's biggest employers ministry of defense U.S.

1:37:12department of defense yeah the Indian ministry defense is the largest and then the world's second largest employer i guess the u.s department of defense is bigger than walmart walmart and amazon i mean that's a great point i think and maybe and you know i wish i knew more of what some of those groups did a lot of times um with the military yeah but i agree with you it's like i agree the fact that why are why does the voter what is the gun carrier the water carrier always you're always at this it's a caste system really in a lot of ways you're it is those are the people having to do the bidding of these elites you know of these countries and stuff like that but then at a certain point it's like do i decide this is my what what what integrity or what do i want to have inside of myself when i'm doing that i could be all day like fuck i don't want to be doing this this country's a piece of shit or whatever or i can have pride in what i'm doing no matter what in the spot that i'm existing in in um this sort of strata right and and i stand up for my country and it's just you know as we get more information it's just uh it's fascinating how things change i just want like i or how things you learn more i don't hate people i just want them to to have better lives you know what i mean even people that i disagree with vehemently like i always stress this point where i say medicare for all means for everybody right even if you're a fucking nazi you're gonna get health care even if you don't want health care i'm gonna fucking give you that health yeah give a shit okay you can cry about it all day every day it's just and i think that's the attitude that other people are supposed to have in this process too like there's got to be a universality to these proposals because like i think we got to do right by others and we are not doing that right now the american government is not doing that and every at every step of the process and that's why the the military is a great example of this you know we're just using and abusing these dudes and making them do a whole lot of awful shit overseas so that some rich asshole can make more money you know and then they're broken in that process they come back there's no there's no way of like repairing them and we basically lie to them too we're like oh yeah you'll get a you'll get a great job you'll go to college you'll be able to uplift yourself and it's like that should be available without you having to serve in the military yeah but if that was available if free college existed if free healthcare existed and no fucking buddy is going to the military.

1:39:37Why the fuck would you do that? Unless you had some real gunners, unless you had some cool call of duty, Verdansk, modern warfare dogs. But I mean, yeah, those guys are, but I'm saying you would still have some, right? You would, but it wouldn't be this significantly lower. It wouldn't be this, um, system that gets kind of manipulated and used. Um, that's why they don't want to fix it though. That's why they don't want to get free health. But that's why there's, they don't want to fix so many things like that. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. We learn more as we learn more about it. You start to see some of the clarity or some of you learn more.

1:40:08You have more information. But then how do I operate still when I have that more information? Like, do you know, it's tough because if I become a nihilist or, you know, so then I'm miserable. My my day to day is miserable, you know, and I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying it's how do we manage in those spaces as we learn more? I don't know I'm fairly tapped into all of the the shortcomings of the American government and yet I enjoy myself I mean I still I still jerk off before I go to sleep I still watch anime I play basketball I focus on myself I think like there are certain things that you have control over and that is your own body right your your immediate friends and your family and you should actively work on those things to basically not lose sight of your own humanity because it's easy to get lost in the sauce, in the everyday cruelty that you recognize is happening all around.

1:41:07And it makes you go crazy. And in order to combat that, I always urge people to engage in self improvement, set goals for yourself and try to achieve them. That's at least how I've always manage this stuff and also being around other people who aren't immediately uh agreeing to your your worldview like i i love parks for that reason i love third spaces no not like parks and recreation as in like the tv show i mean like literal public parks oh yeah dude yeah there's a fucking there's a band or not a band there's some homeless guys stole i guess a band's high school equipment during covid everybody there's a park behind my apartment and um you could hear them sometimes practicing in like 3 or 4 a.m.

1:41:49They get a couple dudes tuned up in a tent or whatever, and you could hear them. What song were they playing for a while? Oh.

1:42:00Love the way you lie. Just gonna stand there and watch you burn. I don't know what instruments they had, but it was pretty cool. They got a hold of the sheet music and everything. But it's like, yeah, just making the most of where you're at. And also our military is there. It keeps us safe. If there's flooding, if they do a ton of stuff. Yeah, the Army Corps engineers, like I interviewed a guy. I don't want people to feel like their lives are in vain. No, no. I admire people that go and are willing to put their years of lives into anything. Trump is firing those guys too, by the way, right now.

1:42:31Like the Army Corps engineers is like what you just described. When there's a flooding happening, like they build the levees, they build the bridges, right? Trump literally is firing those people too. It's crazy. Why is he doing it? Is it because he hates the Army Corps engineers? No, because he doesn't give a shit. That's my point. he doesn't care he's like yeah go elon do whatever you need to do fire these probationary employees nobody knows what probationary means so they think like oh you know it's good it's good that we're like downsizing a little bit it's like no dude you're gonna start slowly but surely five years down the line notice it you're gonna start noticing that things are just not working like air traffic control is a great example of this since the reagan era um like the numbers of air traffic controls uh controllers even though uh air traffic has increased the number of air traffic controllers have not kept up with the increase of air traffic so you got towers where there's like one dude there's got to be like 30 dudes in that tower i don't want the fucking plane i don't want planes to crash you know what i mean probably more of them have started to work in if that's true is there less faa people no there's probably more faa people especially with like TSA and whatnot.

1:43:41But I'm saying that it hasn't matched up to the rate of air. Like there's more planes in the sky is what I'm saying. When there's more planes in the sky, you need more air traffic controls. We're cut. The FAA helps support an air safety union. President Donald Trump's administration has said no one at the federal FAA with a critical safety position has been fired as it cuts the federal workforce. Some FAA jobs were eliminated, had direct roles in supporting safety inspectors and airport operations. according to their union and former employees. This is another way that they lie, by the way. And Karen Bass did this with the LA wildfires, where she was like, oh, we didn't actually cut the LA FD budget.

1:44:19They did. They cut the support budget. But when you cut the support budget, yeah, sure, you're not cutting the actual firefighters, right? You're not reducing their numbers. But when you cut the support staff budget, you're cutting mechanics. When you cut the mechanics and your fucking fire engine is busted, you send it over and it just sits in a goddamn yard for months because now there's no fucking mechanics to fix the goddamn car yeah so all of a sudden you're down one fire engine it's all it all works together i'm curious to see because trump's making you know and there's so many like executive orders and things right out of the gate and there's so much focus on him by the media too but i'm curious to see if some of these things turn out uh to help long term there's no way i'm hopeful that they are you know like i'm hopeful that you know if they're gonna cut medicare or medicaid that it's also because they have the they're gonna make price transparency from hospitals right and and so then there won't be the expenses won't be as high right like i'm hoping that there's some long-term strategy to a lot of his ideas like the same thing with um gaza and israel i don't know if there is it seems i don't like it but i'm hopeful trump is a major israel Dick Ryder.

1:45:31He's not changing that at all. I think you can find 30 of these people that aren't, it feels like. Especially in the American government. It's really, really awful. Yeah. I want things to get better. And I hope it does. But the reason why I say I'm certain that it won't is because of what you just mentioned. $800 billion of Medicare and Medicaid that they want to cut. Mike Johnson goes on stage, goes on Caitlin Collins on CNN and says, oh, there's a lot of fraud happening. there's not fraud happening in Medicare and Medicaid on the point of the recipient. Right. It's happening on the point of the providers.

1:46:07Right. And that's why I got banned recently on Twitch yesterday. I saw you got banned. Yeah. I saw you just got banned. Yeah. Libs at TikTok was like posting about how I said something and they misconstrued it as though it was a call to action to assassinate a sitting U.S. senator. Because I said to Mike Johnson, because I was listening to him back and forth, I said like, If Mike Johnson actually cared about Medicare fraud, he would tackle Medicare fraud happening at the point of the providers. But it's obvious that he doesn't care about Medicare fraud because if he did care about Medicare fraud, he would break Scott, who is responsible for the historic one point seven billion dollars worth of Medicare fraud.

1:46:53And is he still working? Bro, he was a corporate executive at HCA at the time in the 90s. The DOJ came after him and he basically quit his job. He got a$10 million compensation package after doing$1.7 billion of Medicare fraud. In the private sector and then came and worked in public? In the private sector. He got$300 million in stock options. Didn't see a fucking moment of jail time for that. Okay. And then now, and then he became Florida governor. And now he's a fucking Florida senator. And he's a prominent figure in the Republican Party. I think he was like their head of their fundraising or some shit.

1:47:30I forget what his position in the Trump campaign and the Republican Party is beyond the fact that he's a senator. I don't know if they should allow people to go from one to the other. From private to public. You know what I'm saying? Like I just because it just obviously there's conflicts of interest when people do that sort of thing, you know? Oh, for sure. I mean, that's one aspect. But I agree with you. I agree. It's like, yeah. That guy should be in jail. That's what I think. I think if you do$1.7 billion in Medicare fraud, you should be in fucking jail. What are we talking about? You shouldn't be a Republican senator from Florida.

1:48:05Yeah, it says right here, Rick Scott's role in the Columbia HCA scandal. In 2003, Rick Scott's company, Columbia HCA, the largest private hospital chain in the US, was found guilty of defrauding Medicare. The company was forced to pay$1.7 billion a settlement. that was the largest medical fraud fine in U.S. history at the time. Scott, who was the CEO, left the company with a$10 million severance package after the scandal. $300 million in stock options, too. Wow. So do you start to wonder, so this was when he was in the private sector, right? Yeah. So it's, yeah, what's going to be different if a guy comes over from that private sector to the public sector?

1:48:38Should, it's this, like, uh... He's the richest congressperson, by the way. Is he really? Yeah. Fuck that, man. Give us some fucking money. I think people should only be able to have a certain amount of money. um yeah i mean look i don't i don't necessarily care about how much money people have um i care about how they make their money but no i agree how does this guy how do you keep like lebron james right 50 000 points he crossed over that boundary 20 plus years of dominance in the league he gets paid a wage he's a uh what is known as one of the few people is like a like a wage billionaire basically if he makes that kind of money that means he's making somebody else a fuck ton more money right and i don't mind that he's getting paid these big bucks partially because he's my goat and i love him okay i think he deserves it but also partially because he's not making that by like hiring people and then forcing them to work to the bone he does have businesses He's also obviously an owner of capital as well.

1:49:41So he does capital accumulation as well. But ultimately, I just want people to be comfortable. And I think that if you are working a job, you should be able to have a house. You should be able to live comfortably. And it doesn't matter what job it is. You could be picking up trash. I think that's still obviously valuable. It's worthwhile. Also, I guess sanitation is one of the worst examples because they do have pretty solid unions. Yeah, we had a garbage man on who was awesome, man. My buddy Wayne, he's got a podcast now called Trash Talk. But yeah, they do pretty well. But then what about LeBron's companies if they're buying shirts from another country?

1:50:21Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that labor there and those people, that guy's sleeping on a tricycle seat at night because he has to be at work again in the morning. So that part, that's what I'm saying. That part I don't agree with. But I'm saying if he was just making all of his money from just bawling and he's getting a wage, who cares? I don't have an issue with that. Especially if the—hold on, I got to open my door. Sorry. I got FedEx at the door and it's raining. I feel bad. Oh, it's raining out there, huh? Yeah. All right, I got it. I did it. I did it. We brought him inside. We know who sent the rain in probably too.

1:50:56What, the weather machine? Oh, the Jews? Yo no sé, yo no sé. I'm illegal. That's what I say. That's so funny. When the Jews come for me, I'll be like, I'm illegal. That's what I'm saying, dude. See, like, this is another example of, like, you know, you could, under normal circumstances, you can make this joke. But then, like, then there's motherfuckers who really believe it. When there's, like, dudes who are like, no, you're, Marjorie Taylor Greene was talking about how they have a weather machine. She wasn't saying Jews, but she was like, they have a weather machine. But imagine you're rich enough.

1:51:31Say you were rich enough, like Mike, not Mike Jones or whatever. That's that rapper. But I'm thinking of Bill Gates, right? If you had enough money, bro, you would fucking get it. And some guy's like, look, for one bill, I'll get you a weather machine. We'll get you the weather machine. I'd get that bitch in a heartbeat, dude. Imagine you're sitting at home. You're having your coffee. and you're like, all right, Detroit, fuck you guys. Here's seven inches right now, dude. Here's seven white inches. It's really the only way that freaking a white guy can give seven to 10 white inches anymore is by pressing that weather button.

1:52:06This is Bill Gates, pressing the weather button. He's pressing the weather button. But no, man, I think it's, would you have had Trump come on your show? But first of all, thankfully, we can still joke around about stuff and we can have a sense of humor. imagine if we didn't as individuals have a sense of humor if we that would be i agree with you that would be the saddest i agree with you i love comedy um you know i i bill burr is my is my goat yeah dude uh i think he is you know i mean you're a comedian as well i'm i'm obviously very good friends with stavi as well i know you uh always go with him uh but the thing he made me some cookies his mother made oh dude me too yeah when he was out here okay i ate all of it oh you You didn't like them?

1:52:50I know I liked them. I'm just sad that they're bipartisan snacks he's sending out. But no, I'm joking. Oh, damn. I'm joking. No. Listen, he's been. It was so sweet of him. It was this only friend of mine that did that. Very sweet of him. Did he also. He's like, my mother wants to see those shit. Did he also shill his fucking calendars, his naked calendars? Give me those two? I think he did, dude. Those shits have been sitting on my desk every time. I'll have like, bro, I'll have like, you know, prominent figures like activists and shit at my house, and I'm interviewing them. Like, there was Motaz Aziza.

1:53:23I'm interviewing him. He literally survived the genocide. He's a photojournalist from Gaza. And fucking Stavi's naked body is just sitting there on the fucking desk. I'm like, oh my God. Like, it's fucked up. It's fucked up. Being friends with Stavi is fucked up. That's why you can't trust the Greeks. Oh, now that look. Let me tell you, as a Turkish man. We were both. Let me tell you. Both sided agreement on right there. Yeah, bipartisanship on that front, for sure. You cannot trust these Greeks. Yeah, the third month of his calendar is Gorgonzola or whatever. I'm like, this seems like fucking...

1:53:57It was like January, February, March, April, Baklava, June, July. I'm like, that seems... That's the other thing, yeah. Stealing my people's food, saying it's his. Oh, that's right. Baklava's Turkish, bro. It's Turkish. We'll have to talk about that next time. Would you have Trump on if he would podcast with you? Fuck yeah. Do you feel like you're that far removed from getting to talk to guys like that? No. No. I mean, I've talked. Well, I mean, you talk to Sanders. I don't even know why I said that. I talked to Bradley Martin multiple times after. Like, I mean, he like I'm not above like going on, you know, right wing podcast.

1:54:33I'm not above talking to people who talk to Trump because I think like I don't care about like the partisanship angle of this at all. I want to be able to communicate to people exactly where the problems are and why people like Trump, just like people like Kamala, are not the perfect solution to any of these issues. And I would talk to Trump. I just don't think he would come on my stream. Like because he is at the end of the day, he wants to go on. He wants to go on a show where they're not going to, like, you know, push back too much. Right. He wants to come across as like he wants to be humanized and he wants to come across as like a personal a personality that is is not devoid of charisma.

1:55:16And he's very telegenic. It was actually my turning point when I listened to him and you talk about cocaine when you were talking about doing coke and he was like genuinely expressing interest in it. I was like, oh, fuck, this motherfucker is going to win, dude. This podcast shit is working so good because first he did the Aiden Ross thing. and that was like a bit of a dud. Yeah, I thought that was kind of weird. Because that just like didn't work out at all because it wasn't like a normal conversation. Well, it didn't feel, it felt kind of planned. Yeah, exactly. Like they wanted to do like a video, like let's do some social video.

1:55:49And I was like, I don't want to do something like that. Yeah, like the whole dancing and stuff in front of the Cybertruck with a photo of him getting shot. I didn't love that either. Like that stuff, it didn't work at all. But then I saw your podcast and I was like, oh my God, this motherfucker, this motherfucker is going to win the goddamn presidency. But he didn't come, I mean, they didn't ask for any, they didn't ask for any edits you know that was the thing they didn't say like we need to see this they didn't fucking have you guys have a good day yeah but that's also because like you're not but i'm also not a political guy like yeah i thought this was a trap i fell into recently because you because you talked to bernie sanders like a week before no yeah that's what i mean that's that's what i mean so it's like uh you're not you're not gonna like hit him on shit you're not gonna hit him on like uh stuff that he has no answer for well because i think my goal is to It's not a goal, but I just want to get to know people kind of, right?

1:56:36And I realized I fell in this trap recently. I thought that just because I had some political people on last year that I knew about politics. I do not. That was a trap. Even my own ego was like, oh, maybe I know something about politics. I don't know shit. Now I have some ideas. I know what it feels like to be kind of like I feel like just a pretty regular person. And then I don't know. I try to find empathy here and there and figure things out. But I'm learning a lot. I've definitely learned a lot more than I knew two years ago for sure. But then to think that I – like, you know, I have to be careful not to, like, smoke my nuts or whatever it's called where it's like you just – you know, just because I had some politicians on, now I'm fucking, you know, Jim Rome or somebody or, you know, like a – you know, I'm like Malcolm X.

1:57:20Malcolm X. Malcolm X, yeah. Malcolm X. Yeah. So, yeah, but anyway – but no, dude, I like your attitude. I like your charisma. I like that. But I wanted to talk a little bit more about, I know you have a program where you try to co-op and put money back into things that mean something to you. My podcast is a cooperative corporation, so everyone has equal say, equal pay. And there are different formations to that. You don't have to make it equal pay, but I just thought it would be the best possible way to go about it. But most importantly, aside from the equal pay, the equal say part is really important.

1:57:56And we get together and, you know, if someone has an obligation, they're not showing up. It's fine. You know, we make do. We figure it out as we go along. And I think that's how you get the most successful business, like for sure. That's something that I stand by. And we still obviously have to hire contractors every now and then too. Yeah, for sure. And we could get together another time and talk about business strategy and things like that. I think it'd be interesting. But yeah, I just wanted to just. uh then yeah we do a lot of fundraising like the other uh the other day i had the the no other land the the palestinians who who made a documentary about like their lives yeah i had them no we tried to get them i had them on my i had them on my house like i they they rolled up deep they had like 10 people like the whole family was there dude no other friends that's what i'd say dude fucking we invited two of you guys yeah they i mean they also like straight up came from you know occupied Palestinian territory like they flew into America uh and and you know we were chilling we were just like talking about uh talking about their experiences and I interviewed them and then in the process like the organization that actually brought them here uh who works with uh you know a lot of Palestinians on the ground like they were like oh can you share this link uh to to fundraise so I did and we we in the hour-long interview that we did we fundraised a hundred thousand dollars now it's sitting at 135 ,000 but like that's the type of stuff that I uh love being able to do because like I feel so powerless a lot of times when I see all of this death and destruction.

1:59:31And I feel like it's a meaningful way to be able to help to, you know, actively fundraise gives myself and a lot of people that watch me the opportunity to say, like, you know, at least we're trying to do something, anything. You know what I mean? So I try to do that to the best of my ability. We've fundraised for Palestinian aid organizations to the tune of, I think, like almost more than$3 million at this point since October 7. Wow. Yeah. Dude, yeah. No, I appreciate even saying that because I think that's something I need to hear more about. It's on my brain and heart a lot. We started a foundation last year, but haven't started to figure out like what to do with the money or what exactly to do, you know?

2:00:12Yeah. Like I would like to create a business that like, like I thought about like water, like you're selling water, but the money goes towards rehab for people that suffer from opioid addiction, you know, that sort of thing. Just so it's like using something that everybody needs, but finally the proceeds, It only goes towards this thing. There's not even a profit. You know, it's like, this is what it's for. Yeah. Yeah. But I need to be more. I've done that in the past too. Like my, my, like I have merch and it's us made union made. And obviously the margins are incredibly slim for that reason.

2:00:44American giant. Is that who does your merger knows it? No, it's a Bayside is my garment manufacturer. My garment provider is one of the only union shops that is a garment manufacturer in the country that can like uh keep up with the demand that we have because there's a shit ton of people that are buying the t-shirts are like and sometimes i'll just uh like i will fundraise like by by saying all the proceeds like every single point of profit is directly going to a labor union like we uh i gave uh the amazon labor union uh i think it was like 170 000 or something like that off of just that um we fundraise like i think for amazon uh packaging The Amazon Labor Union, yeah.

2:01:25Like the people that work at the distribution facilities. Another thing I did this past year was for, I don't know how to say the name correctly, but RAICES is an organization that works for undocumented migrants in Texas specifically. and they give them, you know, translators and lawyers and, you know, they pay for lawyer fees and stuff like that. So I'm actively working on fundraising initiatives like that because I feel like there's a lot of stories that don't get told in mainstream media. That's why I interviewed the incarcerated firefighters that were combating the wildfires in LA. You know, there's prisoners that fight wildfires, right?

2:02:09Oh, they send prisoners out to fight them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's like a training program and stuff. I'm working with an organization to go and actually see them at their prison, their training camp. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah. That's so creative, man. Yeah, that's, yeah, I'm glad you say these things because, yeah, it's just stuff that I can remember to try to focus more on. Yeah, because everybody, that's the crazy thing. It's like everybody at every point of something, most people need support, right? Or they need some support. They need an ear. They need a blanket. They need a mouthful of – or they need a friend.

2:02:50You know, every – it's – there's a lot of ways to be a part of the world, you know? Yeah. And always to try and find a corner where you can express care. Hassan Piker, thanks so much, dude. I'd love to chat again sometime I know we didn't get to cover You know Some stuff we did But I just appreciate it man I think Yeah I just think it's important too That people just get together And talk about stuff You know I wish I'd have been able to like Kind of like Have probably some stronger Political conversation with you Some of that stuff I don't have as strong Of a knowledge base in But But I admire you dude And I admire The way you operate And And I really appreciate Your time today Alright Thanks for having me man This was great I'm sorry I have to go stream for so long too dude.

2:03:37No I love it. The things that I just told you in the last three minutes is exactly why I love what I do. Because I have a giant community with a big heart. Yeah. And I think that that is what makes everything worth it. Because like I said there will be people swearing up and down that I'm the worst person that you've ever met. No matter where I go. So it's just noise. It's mostly people that are online. That doesn't translate to real-world experiences at all. But in spite of all of that, in spite of people constantly working to actively smear me to say I'm anti-Semitic or I love terrorism or whatever the fuck with clips out of context and all this shit, at the end of the day, I get to make an impact, and that's how I sleep soundly at night, you know?

2:04:29Yeah. where I know that all of this is worth it. Why did Jewish friend recommend you to me? Who's the Jewish friend that recommended? About podcasting. They said, do not name them. Oh, damn. No, they didn't. That part I made up, but I'll just protect their anonymity. But it just, you know what I'm saying? Like, just, it's like people, I think people, I don't know. We're all trying. I think, yeah, I have a neat community too that I feel like wants to do stuff that's important in the world. And we're all trying to figure out how, you know? So, but yeah, I just, I see that light in you, man. And I appreciate you coming and sharing your time with us today.

2:05:04I really do. All right. Thanks for having me. You bet, man. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can feel it in my bones. But it's gonna tell you