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Thoughts on the Market: Signs That Global Growth May Be Ahead
Episode Overview
- Podcast Title: Thoughts on the Market
- Episode Title: Signs That Global Growth May Be Ahead
- Date Released: February 12, 2026
- Host: Andrew Sheets, Global Head of Fixed Income Research at Morgan Stanley
- Description: A discussion on the alignment of key market indicators that suggest an optimistic view on global cyclical growth trends, despite recent market volatility.
Key Themes and Discussions
Introduction
- The episode begins with Andrew Sheets discussing the importance of market indicators and their reliability.
- He notes that while individual indicators can fail, a convergence of multiple signals pointing to the same outcome is significant.
Current Market Climate
- Despite a volatile start to 2026, there is a noted optimism in various economic indicators.
- Andrew outlines several key indicators that suggest a potential strengthening of global growth:
- Copper Prices: An economically sensitive commodity, showing strong upward movement.
- Korean Equities: Best performing major global equity market over the last year, indicating above-average cyclicality.
- Financial Sector Performance: Strong performance across U.S., Europe, and Asia, critical for credit creation.
- Cyclicals and Transports: Outperforming year-to-date, with small-cap stocks leading the charge.
- Yield Curve Dynamics: A bear steepening of the yield curve, which typically suggests positive growth expectations.
Analysis of Indicators
- Each indicator's rise could be attributed to various factors; however, their collective strength supports a narrative of improving global growth.
- Potential Explanations for Individual Signals:
- Copper's rise could relate to AI developments.
- Korean equities recovering from valuation lows.
- Financials linked to regulatory changes and yield curve dynamics.
- Small caps potentially experiencing a resurgence after a long period of underperformance.
Caution in Optimism
- Andrew raises important questions about the sustainability of growth, including:
- Is inflation becoming a concern?
- Is there increasing volatility in the bond market?
- Is the U.S. dollar deviating from fair value?
- Are there signs of weakness in the credit market?
- How do markets react to improved data?
Current Status of Indicators
- As of now, inflation expectations in the U.S. and euro area align with central bank targets, and volatility in interest rates has decreased.
- The U.S. dollar remains close to its purchasing power parity valuation, and the credit market shows stability.
- Recent labor market data has been received positively, further supporting the case for growth.
Conclusion
- Andrew emphasizes that while no single indicator is foolproof, a broader set of economically sensitive signals indicating the same direction should not be ignored.
- He encourages a cautious but optimistic view, highlighting that current evidence supports a favorable outlook on global economic growth.
Key Takeaways
- A range of indicators suggests a constructive outlook for global growth, despite market volatility.
- It is critical to monitor additional signposts that might indicate potential economic overreach or instability.
- Current indicators reflect stable conditions that could support continued growth.
Final Thoughts
- The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to engage and provide feedback, emphasizing the importance of sharing insights with peers.
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0:45 to 2:12
Discussion on various indicators suggesting a stronger global cyclical outlook.
“bonds to software stocks, it is very much what we think is happening below the surface.”
Assessing the Strength of Market Signals
2:12 to 3:40
Analysis of economic signals and potential concerns related to inflation and market volatility.
“And we believe they form a pretty powerful overlapping signal worthy of respect.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Andrew Sheets:Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Andrew Sheets, Global Head of Fixed Income Research at Morgan Stanley. Today, I'm going to talk about the unusual alignment of a number of key indicators. It's Thursday, February 12th at 2 p.m. in London. A frustrating element of investing is that any indicator at any time can let you down. That makes sense. With so much on the line, the secret to markets probably isn't just one of a hundred of data series that a thousand of us can access at the push of a button. But many indicators all suggesting the same thing? That's far more notable. And despite a volatile start to 2026 with big swings in everything from Japanese government bonds to software stocks, it is very much what we think is happening below the surface.
0:51Andrew Sheets:Specifically, a variety of indicators linked to optimism around the global cyclical outlook are all stronger, all moving up and to the right. Copper, which is closely followed as an economically sensitive commodity, is up strongly. Korean equities, which have above average cyclicality and sensitivity to global trade, is the best performing of any major global equity market over the last year. Financials, which lie at the heart of credit creation, have been outperforming across the U.S., Europe, and Asia. And more recently, year-to-date, cyclicals and transports are outperforming, small caps are leading, breadth is improving, and the yield curve is bear steepening.
1:31Andrew Sheets:All of these are the outcomes that you'd expect, all else equal, if global growth is going to be stronger in the future than it is today. Now, individually, these data points can be explained away. Maybe copper is just part of an AI build-out story. Maybe Korea is just rebounding off extreme levels of valuation. Maybe financials are just about deregulation and a steeper yield curve. Maybe the steeper yield curve is just about the policy uncertainty. And small cap stocks have been long-term laggards. Maybe every dog has its day. But collectively, well, they're exactly what investors would be looking for to confirm that the global growth backdrop is getting stronger.
2:12Andrew Sheets:And we believe they form a pretty powerful overlapping signal worthy of respect. But if things are getting better, how much is too much? In the face of easier fiscal, monetary, and regulatory policy, the market may focus on other signposts to determine whether we now have too much of a good thing. For example, is there signs of significant inflation on the horizon? Is volatility in the bond market increasing? Is the U.S. dollar deviating significantly from its fair value? Is the credit market showing weakness? And do stocks and credit now react badly when the data is good? So far, not yet. As we discussed on this program last week, long-run inflation expectations in the U.S.
2:58Andrew Sheets:and euro area remain pretty consistent with central bank targets. Expected volatility in U.S. interest rates has actually fallen year-to-date. The U.S. dollar's valuation is pretty close to what purchasing power parity would suggest. Credit has been very stable, and better-than-expected labor market data on Wednesday was treated well. Any single indicator can, and eventually will, let investors down. But when a broad set of economically sensitive signals all point in the same direction, we listen. Taken together, we think this alignment is still telling a story of supportive fundamental tailwinds, while key measures of stress hold.
3:38Andrew Sheets:Until that evidence changes, we think those signals deserve respect. Thank you, as always, for your time. If you find Thoughts in the Market useful, let us know by leaving a review wherever you listen, and also tell a friend or colleague about us today. The preceding content is informational only and based on information available when created. It is not an offer or solicitation, nor is it tax or legal advice. It does not consider your financial circumstances and objectives and may not be suitable for you.
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Our Global Head of Fixed Income Research Andrew Sheets explains how key market indicators reflect a constructive view around the global cyclical outlook, despite a volatile start to 2026.
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Andrew Sheets: Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Andrew Sheets, Global Head of Fixed Income Research at Morgan Stanley.
Today I'm going to talk about the unusual alignment of a number of key indicators.
It's Thursday, February 12th at 2pm in London.
A frustrating element of investing is that any indicator at any time can let you down. That makes sense. With so much on the line, the secret to markets probably isn't just one of a hundreds of data series that a thousand of us can access at the push of a button.
But many indicators all suggesting the same? That's far more notable. And despite a volatile start to 2026 with big swings in everything from Japanese government bonds to software stocks, it is very much what we think is happening below the surface. Specifically, a variety of indicators linked to optimism around the global cyclical outlook are all stronger, all moving up and to the right.
Copper, which is closely followed as an economically sensitive commodity, is up strongly. Korean equities, which have above average cyclicality and sensitivity to global trade is the best performing of any major global equity market over the last year. Financials, which lie at the heart of credit creation, have been outperforming across the U.S., Europe, and Asia. And more recently, year-to-date cyclicals and transports are outperforming. Small caps are leading, breadth is improving, and the yield curve is bear steepening.
All of these are the outcomes that you'd expect, all else equal, if global growth is going to be stronger in the future than it is today.
Now individually, these data points can be explained away. Maybe Copper is just part of an AI build out story. Maybe Korea is just rebounding off extreme levels of valuation. Maybe Financials are just about deregulation in a steeper yield curve. Maybe the steeper yield curve is just about the policy uncertainty. And small cap stocks have been long-term laggards – maybe every dog has its day.
But collectively, well, they're exactly what investors will be looking for to confirm that the global growth backdrop is getting stronger, and we believe they form a pretty powerful, overlapping signal worthy of respect.
But if things are getting better, how much is too much. In the face of easier fiscal, monetary, and regulatory policy, the market may focus on other signposts to determine whether we now have too much of a good thing. For example, is there signs of significant inflation on the horizon? Is volatility in the bond market increasing? Is the U.S. dollar deviating significantly from its fair value? Is the credit market showing weakness? And do stocks and credit now react badly when the data is good?
So far, not yet. As we discussed on this program last week, long run inflation expectations in the U.S. and euro area remain pretty consistent with central bank targets. Expected volatility in U.S. interest rates has actually fallen year-to-date. The U.S. dollar’s valuation is pretty close to what purchasing power parity would suggest. Credit has been very stable. And better than expected labor market data on Wednesday was treated well.
Any single indicator can and eventually will let investors down. But when a broad set of economically sensitive signals all point in the same direction, we listen. Taken together, we think this alignment is still telling a story of supportive fundamental tailwinds while key measures of stress hold.
Until that evidence changes, we think those signals deserve respect.
Thank you as always, for your time. If you find Thoughts on the Market useful, let us know by leaving a review wherever you listen. And also tell a friend or colleague about us today.
