The ordinary Brits evacuating children from Gaza

6 Nov 2025 · 38 min

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Podcast Episode Summary: The Ordinary Brits Evacuating Children from Gaza

Podcast Information

  • Title: Today in Focus
  • Hosts: Helen Pidd, Nosheen Iqbal, Annie Kelly, Lucy Hough
  • Episode Title: The ordinary Brits evacuating children from Gaza
  • Air Date: [Insert Air Date]
  • Description: This episode focuses on the evacuation of sick and injured children from Gaza to the UK for medical treatment, highlighting the efforts of ordinary citizens in response to governmental shortcomings.

Episode Overview The episode recounts the harrowing experiences of children from Gaza, specifically focusing on the journey of one family. It contrasts the government’s promises to evacuate children for medical treatment with the grassroots efforts led by ordinary citizens who stepped in when official channels failed.

Key Themes

  • Injured Children in Gaza: The urgent need for medical assistance for sick and injured children in Gaza, exacerbated by ongoing violence.
  • Government Inaction: Criticism of the UK government's slow response and minimal action compared to other nations.
  • Grassroots Advocacy: The role of ordinary citizens in organizing medical evacuations when government schemes faltered.
  • Personal Narratives: Individual stories, particularly that of Majd and his family, highlight the human cost of conflict and the resilience of families affected by war.

Main Discussions

Government Promises vs. Reality

  • Government Commitment: In summer, the UK government promised to evacuate hundreds of children needing medical treatment.
  • Outcome: Despite promises, only a handful of children have been evacuated, leading to frustration and despair among families.

The Plight of Gazan Children

  • Statistics: Over 20,000 children have reportedly been killed in Gaza, with many more severely injured.
  • Human Impact: Families face unimaginable trauma as they witness horrific injuries and make desperate choices for their children’s survival.

Islam’s Story

  • Family Background: Islam, a mother of five from Gaza City, describes her idyllic life before the bombings.
  • Impact of Conflict: The bombing on October 7th forced her family to flee, resulting in severe injuries to her son Majd while he was seeking food aid.
  • Majd’s Journey: Details of Majd's medical emergency, the struggle for treatment, and the eventual evacuation process are poignantly described.

Grassroots Efforts

Project Pure Hope

  • Founders: A group of healthcare professionals, including Omar Din, came together to form Project Pure Hope to facilitate evacuations.
  • Initial Attempts: Early attempts to lobby the government for a medical evacuation scheme were unsuccessful.
  • Private Evacuations: The organization shifted to running private medical evacuations after government inaction, relying on donations and grassroots support.

The Evacuation Process

  • Challenges: Difficulty in gaining necessary approvals and the complex visa application process due to the situation in Gaza.
  • Success Stories: Eventually, a few children were successfully evacuated and brought to the UK for treatment.

Life in the UK

  • Adapting to New Life: The families, particularly Majd's, are adjusting to life in the UK while continuing to worry about their relatives still in Gaza.
  • Community Support: Efforts to integrate the children into the schooling system and provide a semblance of normalcy amidst their trauma.

Key Takeaways

  • Urgency for Action: The need for urgent and effective government action to support Gazan children is emphasized.
  • Role of Community: The episode highlights the significant impact that community-driven initiatives can have in crisis situations.
  • Continued Advocacy: Discussion around the need for sustained advocacy and humanitarian support for affected families.

Conclusion The episode serves as a poignant reminder of the human cost of conflict, illustrating both the devastating realities for children in Gaza and the power of community action in the face of bureaucratic inaction.

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0:00This is The Guardian.

0:06Today, the ordinary Brits on an extraordinary mission to evacuate children from Gaza.

0:18Over the summer, the government promised to bring hundreds of desperately sick and injured children from Gaza to the UK for life-saving treatment. We are accelerating efforts to evacuate children from Gaza who need critical medical assistance. Dozens of countries across the Middle East and Europe have rescued thousands of Palestinian children with unbelievable injuries. After almost two years of stalling, Britain was finally stepping up. But so far, only a handful of children have safely made it through on the government scheme. And meanwhile, four friends, ordinary citizens, got together and worked out a way to bring kids here themselves.

1:01We've seen the entire healthcare system there destroyed. We all felt that we had some of the skills, some of the network, and certainly the drive to try to do something which could save lives, improve lives, specifically for children. Even with the ceasefire, Gaza is the single most dangerous place in the world for a child to exist. Israel has killed more than 20 ,000 children. More than twice that number have been maimed. At one point, more than 10 children lost one or two legs every day, making the strip home to proportionally more young amputees than anywhere else on the planet. But behind these statistics are families enduring unimaginable choices.

1:46Any given day, you end up breaking down in tears because you're seeing the most devastating injuries. And when you look at that child, you see your own child's face. If I was born in Palestine, that's my family. That's my child. And everybody's watching this live streaming in front of them. These images will live with us for life. You know, you never forget what you've seen.

2:13When is the help coming? And if there is a lifeline, who gets to go, who has to stay? From The Guardian, I'm Noshin Iqbal. Today in Focus, Getting Out of Gaza, the story of one family broken in two.

2:37Islam, can you describe Gaza City to me when you were living there?

2:45No matter what I say, I wouldn't be able to describe its beauty.

2:57Islam Phil Phil is a mother of five from Gaza City. She lived there her whole life, grew up, got married, had kids. Islam speaks gently, but there is a quiet determination about her. We speak via Dina, who is translating for us. Islam's three youngest children squeeze in around her on the sofa.

3:23Nadar, she told me, makes mischief. He's ten, fidgety, and you can see a hint of cheekiness about him. Rahaf, the baby of the family, is Islam's only daughter. She's eight but really small and is hiding her big brown eyes behind her mum's sleeve.

3:42And then there's Majd, a huge football fan. He's 15 now, quiet and serious. He's wearing a medical face mask to cover his injuries. No one ever believes that these two are brothers, because one's really naughty and the other one's really wise. Raising the kids was full on. Islam separated from her husband after Rahaf was born. But life was good. The kids loved Fridays, when the family would go to the beach or the fun fair or hang out with cousins.

4:17You know, in 10 minutes I could be by the sea. In one minute I could be at my sister's. Another minute I'd be at my mum's. I can't describe how beautiful life was. All my loved ones were together, like, in the same area. we weren't all displaced and in different places.

4:43Anywhere you went to Gaza in Gaza City, you'd feel like you were in paradise.

5:02Islam remembers that she was getting Nader ready for school when the bombing began on October 7th. Hamas' dawn attack on Israel left close to 1 ,200 people dead. Within hours, missiles were raining down on Gaza City.

5:19It was literally the first month of when the school term starts. So I woke up and everything was, what's the word, chaos.

5:45Because we lived near a mosque, we left immediately, because whenever they start bombing, they always bomb the mosques first. So we left straight away.

6:04They ran leaving their home with almost nothing Like so many families around them Islam and the kids were forced to keep moving for the next 18 months First to Rafa, then to Khan Yunus and back to Rafa, back to Khan Yunus They ended up living cramped together in a tent on the beach Majd was 14 years old and he took it upon himself to find a way to feed the family. Food was scarce and expensive. The little aid that was available could only be found at a few distribution points. Everyone knew it was dangerous to go. Can you talk to me about what happened the day that Maj got injured?

6:51He was injured when I wasn't with him. He was on his way to get food aid from the distribution centre. He'd gone down to get flour. He didn't enter the distribution centre because he could see that the Israelis had surrounded the place.

7:17They fired at him and his friends. Two of his friends died and the rest were all injured.

7:27And the place where he was injured, like the exact spot, no one was allowed to go in and help and get the injured people out. They were just meant to leave them where they were. Majd bore horrific injuries. His jawbone was shattered and he could barely breathe.

7:48So he tried to get up again to save himself. and that's when he was hit in the leg. But he fell in a place where people could get to him.

8:05So when he fell, they thought someone, one of the bystanders thought he was alive and took him to hospital, but when he got to hospital, they thought he'd died. He had tried to get up, but he was shot at again. Majd had suffered so much trauma and had bled so much it was thought there was no way he had survived He was being sent to the morgue when he managed to raise a finger

8:36He managed to give them a sign that he was alive but all the operating theatres were busy so they did his surgery in the kitchen

8:55During the operation they inserted a tube to help him breathe and they took out the bullet from his leg The pain was excruciating but the medics did everything they could to save Maj's life and he underwent an emergency tracheostomy that is a tube inserted into his neck to allow air into his lungs essentially allowing him to breathe. I wasn't told that he was injured. I didn't know that first day he was injured because they didn't tell me. The people around me didn't tell me because he'd been injured seriously and they didn't know how to tell me. Much had been taken to a hospital in the north of Gaza, but Islam was stuck in the south.

9:45Travel between the two had been made impossible by the Israeli military. Islam couldn't go and see Majd. She couldn't be with him.

9:56My sister was there, though. And she's, you know, their sisters are like mums. So she looked after him. She didn't leave him for a second. It was months until Islam and Majd would be reunited. Still recovering with a breathing tube in his neck, Majd returned to the tent on the beach. Islam cared for him as best as she could. But the conditions were dangerous, unhygienic and cramped. Majd also needed extensive facial reconstruction surgery. The attack had left him unable to properly speak or swallow. Islam went from hospital to hospital, refusing to give up. Eventually, she found out about the list.

10:43The World Health Organization had been logging the cases of the most vulnerable children who needed to be urgently evacuated from Gaza. They were working with a myriad of medics, charities, NGOs to try and safely get kids out for medical treatment abroad. Islam was determined to get Majd on that list.

11:13Omar, can you tell me a bit about yourself and the work that you do in healthcare? So my name is Omar Din. We are in Croydon today. My background is... Omar Din is a healthcare executive from London. That essentially means he works on the management side of the NHS and also that he's always really busy. But Omar is a doer and on top of his day job, he's helped set up a charitable organisation called Project Pure Hope. So myself and a group of friends, Frazana, who's a radiologist, Junaid, who's a GP and a scientist, and Raza, who's a barrister. One of the things that we kind of came together on around October and November of 2023 was the situation we could see unfolding in Gaza.

11:59and so as we could see that unfolding we knew one of the things that would be really important is where specialist treatment was required and not available in Gaza could we provide that somewhere else certainly the UK was first on our list because we know we have some of the best pediatric care in the world here in the UK and as I said we had relationships with many of those hospitals we still do and we wanted to be able to support those children using specialists and in other countries as well. See? A doer. Could this group, a radiologist, GP, barrister and a manager, get critically ill Palestinian children out from a war zone?

12:38And we just wanted to bring that knowledge together with our experience of working at leadership levels in government and in the NHS to try to facilitate some healthcare needs of children. At first, Project Pure Hope lobbied the UK government to launch a medical evacuation scheme for guards and children, similar to the one that successfully allowed Ukrainians to escape Russia's deadly invasion in 2022. But nothing happened. So Project Pure Hope partnered with NGOs in the Middle East to identify children who could be eligible to come to the UK for treatment. In November 2023, when the Conservative Party was still in power.

13:17They heard about a young boy named Luay. Luay had significant, very, very significant burns all across his body. And we submitted his case to the UK government to support a UK medical evacuation, meaning a government-led evacuation. And we never really got a response to that. Luay was then transferred to Doha in Qatar. And he was put into a facility there. But very, very quickly he started to decline and on Christmas day in 2023 he died and just before he died you know it's a young child he's asking for his mother and the clinicians had to get somebody to pretend to be his mother because he'd been orphaned to give him some comfort in his last moments

14:18The team then realised they couldn't rely on the UK government to move quickly. So they began to figure out a way to run the evacuations themselves. Because we could see that that was very slow moving, despite providing the cases, despite providing all of the support and network that we had, we wanted to just get on with what we could do. And so we moved on with our private medical evacuation work, because nothing stops us from doing that, right? There's no real involvement of a government when you're doing a private medivac. All they really needed to do was to review the case and to issue the visa.

14:54We would have to pay for that visa. So, you know, we cracked on with doing the medivacs that we could do in the region and to other countries. And we never gave up on the hope and the efforts in trying to get children here to the UK using our private route. You can imagine the mountain of bureaucracy involved in this. But between the four of them, they got it done. Once word got out, donations came flooding in on their JustGiving page. Just yesterday, I got a message from a paediatrician, and she told me that on the weekend she got married. And on her wedding invitation, she put a QR code to our JustGiving page.

15:35She said, don't bring gifts, donate to Project Pure Hope. The UK has world-leading paediatric care. Now it was just a matter of matching the specialist to the children most in need. Anamal, how do the cases come across your radar and what is the criteria? So we've worked with NGOs such as Palestine Children's Relief Fund to help with case identification, that's selecting patients who would be suitable candidates and we've also work directly with the World Health Organization. In Gaza, certainly since the borders were closed, the World Health Organization has become the central point where they hold a database of all healthcare cases which are listed.

16:21And also they are the agency through which if there is going to be a medical evacuation, it's from their list that you select one of those cases. And then working with the Israeli authorities, they're called COGAT, to get security clearance for those patients to be cleared to leave. So we've worked with all of those agencies, and then also with the ministries of health involved. There are so many agencies involved, and you have to go through all of these steps of clearance and approvals. So before the child has even arrived in the UK, they've gone through about five or six agencies. And that's layers of security as well.

16:59laser security. So it's even before the UK has done their biometric checks, which is another process in itself. And one of the challenges is that biometrics is not possible to complete in Gaza because there is no centre there anymore. Can you explain to us what biometrics are exactly? So if we have a child that we have identified for treatment in the UK, they will have to go through a visa application process. Part of that visa application process is the enrolment of their biometrics. That's typically your thumbs and other data which they want to... Fingerprints. Fingerprints and also your demographic details as well.

17:36All of that gets submitted and that goes together with a very detailed and extensive visa application. It's not just for the individual, it's also for their companions. And that's usually their guardian, their parent, if they have one. In our case, it's been the mothers of the children. I'm talking about the children were brought to the UK. It's been their mothers. And in each of the cases, they've come with one or two siblings. Just to be clear, the normal rules of applying for a visa in a war zone, you would expect to be very different. And of course, they have been very different. You've seen biometrics waived in the case of Ukrainian refugees, am I right?

18:13Right, right. And you've seen children come over and despite, I mean, what were the layers of security that are provided then or the layers of identification? Yeah, I mean, we are aware of that. And I do think there has been a differential in how this has been managed. We've been so privileged and proud to support children from Ukraine, children from Hong Kong, children from Syria, Afghanistan, so many countries, myself and my colleagues, particularly those of us who've worked in healthcare. We've been involved in many of those schemes. We've provided direct healthcare to people from those countries, and proudly so.

18:55It did feel that it was an uphill battle, trying to make this happen for Gazi children, and I never quite understood why. In April this year, Project Pure Hope were finally able to bring over two children to the UK, Two little sisters, 12-year-old Reina and 5-year-old Reina. Despite all the many, many hurdles, Project Pure Hope had proven that their plan worked.

19:33Back in Gaza, Maj's mum was trying to gather the evidence needed to make Maj's case.

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19:44So for 50 days, I went to Nasser Hospital for 50 days every single day until I was given papers to prove that he'd been injured. Finally, a doctor displaced in a neighbouring tent promised to help.

20:03And the doctor said that he would help me. you come to the hospital tomorrow at 7am to Nasser Hospital and I will sort this out. I went there at 7 and he sorted everything out. Islam was put in touch with an aid worker from Kinder Relief who was coordinating help for cases like theirs. She said, just wait for me to call you and just be ready and I'll let you know when to go. And so we waited for about a couple of months.

20:58Islam had left her phone charging at a communal power bank in the camp when the call finally came through. In fact, by the time she had picked up her phone, there were 17 missed calls.

21:14I called them back and the lady who responded said I'm from the World Health Organization and she's like tomorrow at 6am you're leaving tomorrow I'm not ready I told them I'm not ready how am I going to do this they're like this is the way we do things

21:39I bathed them I got everything ready and I didn't tell a soul even though like the place where we were staying was just full of people I just didn't tell anyone a thing I left Gaza but I didn't tell anyone I was leaving I mean I knew their dad would be all right with it but I was worried that the family would object. To taking the kids? No, it's not that. How do I get them out? They were one of them who get out. No, they were upset that they didn't want her leaving. Like, why should she leave Gaza and them not, basically?

22:35We went to Shifa Hospital and that's where they met us. I didn't get to see my other son Yusuf. I left without saying goodbye.

22:58Islam was to travel with Majd, but she only had permission to take two more of her five children. She took the youngest, Rahaf and Nadir. She left behind her two teenage boys. Exhausted and broken in two, the family arrived at a hospital in Egypt, 40 miles from the Gaza border. That short journey had taken all day.

23:32Back in the UK, Project Pure Hope were alerted to Majid's case. The family were now in Cairo, but the complicated treatment Majid needed just wasn't available there. So we received his case file, which is what the World Health Organization prepares. It's a very detailed set of notes of the medical history of that individual, but also what led to that situation occurring. They shared Majd's file with Dr. Awais Jelani at Great Ormond Street Hospital in London. He agreed to privately treat the children they were trying to bring over and waived any fees. He was confident they could help Majd. So that's how we came about his case.

24:10That's how we made the decision that this was definitely a child that we could support because we had the right clinicians, the right specialists, the right hospital. and we had a good partner to work with on the logistics on the ground. Omar, you went to Cairo to meet Majid and his family. Can you tell me about that trip? It was very emotional and eye-opening also in the sense that Majid and his family had been in Cairo for a few months. So literally we arrived on the evening, the day before we were going to travel back to the UK. So literally arrived around 11pm, gone into a hotel prepared for the next day and the next morning I met Majid and his mom and his little brother and sister we brought them over to the hotel just to do that orientation which is here's what to expect on the flight we gave them each something that would keep them busy they all really enjoyed coloring in fact Majid really enjoyed coloring too I think it was the first time maybe in a long time that they had that.

25:15And it was really heartwarming to see how he was with his siblings, because he's been without his father for a long time. And he's kind of just assumed that role of, I am the male figure in my family and I'm going to look after my family. But in that moment, he was allowed to be a child and just colour in. It was really beautiful just to see that happening. So we just got to the airport and the kids are now getting their luggage out of the car and getting ready to fly. Very, very excited young lady here. Oh, careful, darling. Careful. I think getting on the flight, again, it was really interesting to see the kids just very quickly get to grips with what was about to happen.

26:01Let's go now. Let's go now. Let's go now. Headphones in. headphones in, you know, flicking through whatever movies that they thought they might be interested in watching. And it was just so nice.

26:20We've just touched down in London, getting off the flight now. And the kids are racing ahead, getting ready to get into the airport. And then you get to arrival in the UK.

26:40When we've come out, there's been a wonderful reception to welcome the families. People from the Palestinian community, people from the wider UK community, coming and welcoming them and, you know, banners up with welcome signs and their names. I had so many gifts. I mean, we had to book two taxis. One was for gifts. And the thing that stuck with me is my wife and I, we arrived at their accommodation before the family arrived. and we had some of those gifts with us. So we just put them in a pile inside the apartment. When much then his family arrived, he immediately took his shoes off, put them neatly in a corner, got the gifts and went and neatly put them away.

27:25You know, just so collected that I'm going to make sure that from the moment I arrived, we're not creating any mess or issues for anybody else. The family currently live in a flat opposite Great Ormond Street Hospital, where Marjith is being treated. It's clean, but pretty spartan. Grey floors, grey sofa, and a galley kitchen at one end of the small living room that we meet in. There's a thick amber prayer mat hanging over the glass coffee table, and a child's scooter propped in a corner. A Palestine flag hangs from the balcony rail outside. The family are living in a kind of limbo. The kids haven't been in school for more than two years now.

28:06Islam is still adjusting to life in London. Their schedule revolves around Maj's treatments. They've made friends with a couple of Palestinian families who live locally, and sometimes the kids will venture to the park at the end of the road. But their older brothers and their dad are still in Gaza, still fighting for survival. Every morning, Islam checks her phone for news from her family, praying that the worst hasn't happened.

28:37They constantly cry, they're constantly in tears. We want to come to you. You've taken your favorites. You've left us to die is what they tell me.

28:50And every morning when I switch my phone on, I say, please God help. Because at any moment, anything could happen to them.

29:06I'm really suffering I can't describe how much it hurts every time like I buy food I just think about getting food for them I can't describe to you what this feels like

29:39What happens to them now? Do they get to stay in the UK? Our visas, these private medical visas, are for a duration of 11 months. And you can't really see a situation right now where they're going to return to Gaza. It's completely unsafe. So, you know, the options that are available are limited, but they will be in the region, places like Egypt. But children are still undergoing treatment. So for now, our focus is on that. Emma, what is your relationship like with the government? I mean, you've mentioned that they, in terms of a private medical evacuation, would need to approve the visas. But since then, they have announced that they will be using Project Pure Hope as a template to follow through on their own scheme.

30:26It's been very interesting to see how the government has come to the final decision of going ahead with this proposal. And the amount of time it's taken is really, really difficult to reconcile with. Because, you know, I'll just give you a clear example of that. So we had the PM's announcement that there is now going to be a scheme. And we've certainly always said to ministers and to all of the departments in the government that, you know, you've got to start with a minimum number of 30 to 50. If we're able to, as civilians, as non-diplomats, as people who are basically alongside our day jobs trying to do this work, we're able to bring three children and their companions, surely the government could do more than that and if you look at our counterparts in Europe Italy has taken 600 people of which over 200 were children you know it feels a bit embarrassing if I'm honest with you that we are one of the wealthiest nations in the world we have some of the best specialists in the world when it comes to pediatric care so when it comes to the government scheme I think we've really got to demonstrate that wonderful spirit that we've got you know the British spirit has always been providing support to the most vulnerable, providing humanitarian support and aid.

31:50We've got a long tradition of doing that. And I'd love to see so much more of that provided for people from Gaza. 30 to 50, if you ask me, it's good. It's a good start. But we can do a lot more than that.

32:11Coming up, what will happen next for Majd and for children like him?

32:29Hey guys. Hi Omar, how are you doing? I'm all right, sorry, I'm in a cabin, just landed a little while ago. I'm just in a cabin, back in rainy London. Last week, I caught up with Omar again, a couple of months after we first spoke, and after Majd had finished most of his treatment. You know, my first question, Omar, how is Majd doing? How has his treatment gone? So Majd is really looking and feeling much better and his treatment's gone very, very well. You know, his entire, both of his jaws needed reconstruction and treatment and it involved five different specialists, including for his dental rework including for his upper lip including for the skin graft which was required, plastic surgeons so it's been a complex operation and it's been over a series of days but we're really pleased to see that he's doing much better and this is why it was so important to bring him to the UK because this is the sort of treatment that would not have been available to him certainly not in Gaza and neither in the region.

33:39And so now, as you say, he's at home with his family. How are they all doing? Yeah, I mean, there was a wonderful celebration when he came home. It was so nice. And I think they're in much better spirits now that the kind of most challenging part of his treatment has been delivered. One of the things we can't underestimate, though, is whilst they're happy about much, they're very, very concerned every single day about their siblings and, you know, for his mother, for her other children who are still stuck in Gaza. And whilst there's been a form of ceasefire there, you know, even just this morning we were hearing about bombs dropping again in Gaza City.

34:19And it's a very, very worrying situation for them. Well, how has the ceasefire impacted how Project Pure Hope are working? And has it changed things on the ground for you? We're very wary at the moment about what it might mean. So far, we're still working on medical evacuations to the UK, but fragility of this ceasefire is a real issue because on any given day, we may have plans about medivacs, but that can be put on hold with a minute's notice. So it's a very precarious situation, but we remain hopeful and we remain committed. And how are they settling into life in the UK otherwise? What's their day-to-day life like?

35:04They have built some really good friendships and relationships. They've got a really good support network around them. They also have a Saturday school which the children are going to. It's an Arabic Saturday school. So that's the first time in two years that they're actually having any form of education. We've also arranged for them through the Arab community, an English teacher who's been teaching the kids English. all of their English has improved significantly since being here and in fact they all make the effort to speak with us in English now whenever we speak because they really are trying their best to make use of the time that they're here and to learn and to be able to engage and then the first two girls who came over Rama and Ghena and her sister Hala of them two of the girls are now actually in school I mean mainstream school They were so excited that they just wanted to go to school and be normal kids and be in a normal environment.

36:01And, you know, they've got their uniforms on and people have helped out with their stationery and getting them ready to go to school. It's been an absolutely amazing thing to see. Like going from literally being in a tent under bombs, under drones, under such bombardment, to now being in a place where they've had the treatment that they wouldn't have received otherwise and now actually going to school and getting a bit of education that they've not had access to for over two years whilst this genocide's been unfolding.

36:49That was Omar Din. My thanks to him and everyone at Project Pure Hope and to Islam, Majd and the Al-Shughnubi family. We contacted the Department of Health several times to clarify exactly how many Gazan children had come to the UK on the government's scheme. We also asked about the future of the scheme now the ceasefire is in place. At the time of recording, the department said it could not confirm any detail, nor the number of children it had been able to bring over for medical treatment. And that's it for today. This episode was presented by me, Noshin Iqbal, and produced by Alex Zatak. translation support from Dina Habib and special thanks to our colleague Geneva Abdour sound design by Alex Atak and Brian McNamara the executive producer was Huma Khalili we'll see you again tomorrow

37:46this is The Guardian

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