In short
Ben Bankas discusses “dark humour for dark times,” arguing that Canada’s left/DEI-aligned institutions and “anti-hate” groups suppress comedians through venue cancellations, doxxing, and “safety” claims. He also argues free speech should be “speech for pay,” and that comedy is catharsis rather than political incitement. He contrasts this with the idea that mainstream media selectively misrepresents events.
Guest
Ben Bankas is a Canadian stand-up comedian known for offensive, edgy material and for being repeatedly targeted by cancellations and complaints. He says his upbringing included a teacher mother with a dark sense of humor, and he frames his style as authentic and uncensored.
Key claims
Cancellations happen even when shows are sold out; complaints from small groups are treated as decisive. “Safety” is used as a pretext to stop jokes. Media and organizations misrepresent incidents and selectively cover stories. Comedy that makes people laugh is portrayed as a threat to the left.
Notable examples
A show in Nanaimo, BC (900 tickets sold) was canceled; the next day an all-ages drag event was announced. He cites a teachers union email in Sudbury, Ontario telling teachers not to attend. He references an ICE-related joke that triggered backlash. He also mentions using Ground News to show unequal coverage.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Game-Changing Snacksy App
1:08 to 2:39
Discussion about the Snacksy app and how it rewards players for gaming.
“I'm not a gamer, even though I look like one.”
The Danger of Censorship in Comedy
2:39 to 3:17
Exploration of how censorship affects comedians and their freedom of speech.
“This whole idea that you don't feel safe because somebody's making jokes is so dangerous for society.”
Ben's Background and Humor Style
3:17 to 5:24
Ben Bankas shares his upbringing and how it shaped his dark humor.
“Your universities are incredibly prestigious.”
Controversy Over ICE Jokes
5:24 to 7:30
Discussion on the backlash Ben received for jokes related to ICE.
“You're making somebody laugh, and they're going, stop.”
The Impact of Liberal Complaints on Shows
7:30 to 9:22
Ben explains how liberal complaints can lead to show cancellations.
“Basically, if you're not woke, you shouldn't be allowed to perform.”
The State of Free Speech Today
13:34 to 14:01
A discussion on the current climate of free speech and its implications.
“And the left pushes back and goes, well, it is free speech, but it's not free of consequences.”
The Rise of Comedy and Political Correctness
14:01 to 16:44
Explores the evolution of comedy in relation to societal changes and political correctness.
“We bullied them, and then we bullied them in university when they took liberal arts degrees, and we said, you're not going to have a job.”
Media Bias and Public Perception
16:44 to 19:50
Discusses media bias and how it shapes public understanding of events.
“they they don't like gay people it's like not true if i meet a gay guy and he goes i like trump i'm like, oh, maybe I like Dick.”
Free Speech in Comedy
21:04 to 24:08
Examines the role of free speech in comedy and societal reactions to it.
“It seems like America's kind of got past the point that Francis is talking about, though, right?”
The Nature of Humor and Offense
24:08 to 28:00
Delves into the complexities of humor, offense, and societal expectations in comedy.
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The Role of Comedy in Tough Times
28:00 to 29:09
Learn how humor serves as a coping mechanism during challenging times.
“And to them, a good joke is something that only if it's not, doesn't offend anybody, doesn't hurt anybody.”
Critique of Cancel Culture in Comedy
29:10 to 33:19
Explore the impact of cancel culture on comedians and the comedy scene in Canada.
“We're giving an alternative for Ben Bankis.”
The Need for Strong Political Leadership
33:20 to 37:40
Discuss the importance of assertive leadership and bold policies in Canadian politics.
“They don't, but I have faith that it will change.”
Cultural Differences in Political Discourse
37:45 to 42:05
Understand the cultural distinctions in political attitudes between Canada and America.
“But when I think about the UK and there seem to be some similarities, I go, I think the reason that a lot of politicians in this kind of center right don't go the Trump route is that the public are very different.”
The Shift in Comedy Culture
42:05 to 48:22
Explore how the comedy landscape has changed regarding freedom of expression.
“But that's because you already have money.”
The Nature of Jokes and Offense
54:23 to 56:00
Discuss the complexities of joke-telling and the audience's expectations.
“I mean, some of the things I do mean, but like not to the extreme of like, you know, the Renee Good, do I think it was actually good?”
The Problem of Over-Empathy in Canada
56:00 to 1:02:40
Discussing the impact of over-empathy and immigration on Canadian society.
“I mean, you've got a glint in your eye when you say that.”
The Role of Comedy and Politics
1:02:40 to 1:11:56
Exploring how comedians can influence politics and the current state of comedy in Canada.
“Because these people, they just, they don't...”
The Exodus of Entrepreneurs from Canada
1:12:05 to 1:13:40
Discussing the reasons why successful individuals are leaving Canada.
“I mean, I ran into, I mean, when I'm in Canada, I do get recognized on the street.”
Critique of Canadian Policies
1:13:40 to 1:15:48
Analyzing the impact of woke policies on Canada's economy and society.
“So it might, maybe it will be a 30 year thing where they go full, full communist and everybody, any dissenters are either arrested or have to leave.”
The Role of Parenting in Society
1:15:48 to 1:17:58
Exploring how parenting and family structure influence societal values and responsibilities.
“But although the environment and the indigenous people would be better taken care of if Canada was rich, it's the same thing.”
The Importance of Debate and Free Speech
1:17:58 to 1:20:48
Emphasizing the need for open debate in society to counteract extreme ideologies.
“traumas from when you grew up or whatever.”
Geopolitical Perspectives on War
1:20:48 to 1:23:58
Discussing U.S. foreign policy, particularly in relation to Iran and Ukraine.
“We should blow up everybody because they don't like us.”
Geopolitical Dynamics in Ukraine and Iran
1:24:00 to 1:26:51
Discussion on the complex geopolitical landscape involving Ukraine, Iran, and America's military strategy.
“Right, because the Iranians can't send their drones to Russia anymore.”
The Unspoken Conversations About Jews
1:26:51 to 1:29:16
A controversial dialogue on perceptions of Jews and their contributions to society.
“Ben, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show.”
Aspirations and Future Plans
1:29:16 to 1:30:30
Ben shares his ambitions of becoming a prominent comic or the Prime Minister of Canada, while reflecting on personal beliefs.
“My goal is to become the biggest comic in the world.”
Transcript
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2:45Some guy was trying to get people to call the police during the show to have me arrested for hate speech. One of my audience members told me that her union, teachers union, sent her an email saying not to attend my show. Imagine an email going out to a company or an organization saying, please do not attend this drag time story hour. Improving your own life will do more for the country than marching around with a sign trying to get a comedy show canceled. Be successful, start a business. Clean your room. clean your room and they sound like a parent, but the right needs to parent the left. Your universities are incredibly prestigious.
3:20You've got literally everything. They've all been infiltrated. All the universities are infiltrated by China. We need to make the gay people in charge of the country and then fill the country with mushrooms. Ben Bankus, welcome to Trigonometry.
3:39Francis Foster:Thank you so much for having me. Oh, man, it's awesome. You are absolutely blowing up. We were just talking before we started. The reason we really like your stuff, A, is you're very, very funny. Just very funny. But also, I think you're very authentic with the voice that you represent, which is like a lot of comedians who do offensive material, they play that sort of like guilty liberal card. It's like, well, you know, I'm not woke, but I'm also not that other evil thing. Whereas you embrace the evil. What are we talking, Ricky Gervais? No I just think he stays out of politics But you know what I mean, right?
4:12Yeah, no, he takes good pictures of his cat
4:16Francis Foster:We're starting strong here, I like it I mean, look I say things that I think of And that's what the art form is And there are things that I would say to Probably my mom If she was still alive To make her laugh Growing up, my mom had a pretty dark sense of humor She was a high school teacher after 35 years in Scarborough, Ontario, which is a little bit of a rough suburb of Toronto. And there was always things happening at her school, robberies and murders. And she had a student shoot somebody in a bus with a sawed-off shotgun. And it was a kid that she had just thrown out of her class like a week before.
5:00And so she saw stuff, and she had a real life. And, you know, her, like, she was born in 1948. So right after the war and stuff. So I always made jokes about whatever I wanted at home. There was never a line. You know, maybe if it was a really bad joke, my mom would go, oh, stop, stop. But that's what comedy is. Sometimes it is. You're making somebody laugh, and they're going, stop. That's not the right time. But when it's on a stage and the people have paid for it, it is the right time. and I don't believe in censoring myself, especially on stage. Sometimes I make the joke with my audience. I'll make a really bad joke.
5:41I'll be like, I'm not posting that one.
5:44Francis Foster:And then you post it. And then I post it. No, I don't. I mean, some of my worst stuff is not being posted yet because it's for the audience to come and pay and see. You said I believe in free speech. I believe in speech for pay. Well, you got into trouble, if you can say it that way, with your stuff about ICE, right? What was your take on the whole ICE thing? I mean, I'm Canadian, so I'm an immigrant. And I think we need to get rid of these people. I don't know what to say. It's the same thing in Canada. Canada does not have ICE. I think the number is now around 400 ,000 people waiting for deportation who've had, or more.
6:27Maybe there's millions, but officially, I think there's 400 ,000 or 500 ,000 in Canada. There's no ICE. there's no deporting those people they are they just get a notice and they're supposed to self deport and that's not good for the country to just have a bunch of illegal i mean right now they're in canada as irgc members and stuff in the country and you know during this like the canada's becoming a safe haven for you know irgc members i mean is that a good thing i don't think so so i i think that i i believe in a safe i want to have a safe healthy beautiful country whether it's canada america wherever i'm living i want it to be beautiful and amazing and and the people who are pro or anti-ice are also in favor of letting people out of jail for committing serious crimes and um you know giving money to illegal immigrants it's it i i just don't know how i can be in favor
7:30Francis Foster:of that stuff but you didn't get in trouble for that you got in trouble for a joke about ice right yeah something to do with renee good yeah yeah i made a joke about it right when it happened and you know it was it was very funny for my audience and the people who are upset of course they're going to be upset you know they but they cancel a bunch of your shows right is that what no i think that i mean a lot of this is interesting a lot of people are like are your shows all getting canceled no not at all i mean we had shows in minnesota got canceled because there was an active riot and i mean i should have canceled it myself people were like you should maybe not go like people were worried about me and the venue canceled because i mean they said it was for safety reasons the real reason is they were liberal and the people who ran the business for liberals so even though democrats because they believe in like communism now they don't care about making money so it's like oh six sold out shows six sold out shows we'll cancel them because it's for the greater good the greater renee good i'm just i'm just saying it's not so yeah this this idea that shows are being canceled is not in america is not true canada they canceled a few they have these the canadian anti-hate network and all these uh organizations that are paid for they just found out are paid for by the liberal party in canada which is like the democrat party in canada uh through back channels apparently um and um that organization's goal is to shut down people like me i guess that don't aren't censoring themselves or aren't woke.
9:13Basically, if you're not woke, you shouldn't be allowed to perform. You shouldn't be allowed to be platformed. You shouldn't be allowed to blah, blah, blah, even when the shows are sold out. And that's wrong. I mean, it's obviously wrong. And a lot of it has to do with in Canada, if you're going to be at a venue, a lot of them are city funded or, or, or, you know, government funded venues. And they're saying he shouldn't be allowed to perform there because it's government funded and they have a mandate to have DEI and, and, you know, not what, what, you know, all those bullshit things that they write in those, you know, our mission statement is that we acknowledge that we are on stolen land and there is no freedom of speech allowed in this establishment.
9:58And if you say anything naughty, you'll be, you know,
10:01Francis Foster:They have great names though, those organizations, right? They do. The anti-hate ones. We have one of them in the UK called Hope Not Hate. And all they do is go around doxing anyone who's not. Well, yeah, it's like, oh, you're anti-hate. What do you do? Oh, we hate Ben Bankers. And we discriminate. We don't discriminate against broad groups. We discriminate about one person at a time. And that's apparently okay. But the shows were sold out. I mean, we're talking, I just had a show, Nanaimo, BC, 900 people sold out. It's been sold out for like a month and a half. And then they cancel it. you know, there was a whole thing.
10:38They had, they had a city, it was a city funded venue, but not affiliated with the city or something. So people went to the, they protested, they protested the city council meeting. They got into the city council meeting. They raised this concern. The mayor of Nanaimo said that, well, we don't want to be part of censorship, even though his material is disgusting and horrific and awful, but it's, we don't want to take part in censorship. So they basically said, we're not going to pressure the venue to shut it down, but we will make a statement that we, this is the new thing. Something bad happens.
11:12Let's make it, we make a statement reaffirming our commitment to diversity inclusion. What does that even mean? It means nothing. And so they sent that statement to the venue. And of course, there's somebody woke working at the venue who goes, finally, there's a statement. This means we can cancel. and then they get some woke lawyer to look at it and the woke lawyer goes well with the statement you just say that we didn't feel safe the staff was didn't feel safe this whole idea that you don't feel safe because somebody's making jokes is so dangerous for society the idea that it's like safety has to do with words it's not it's it's just not true it's it's a lie and it's being peddled and that venue uh is is getting bombarded by my fans of course so this is the weird thing venues will cancel my shows in canada if 10 people complain apparently you know if they're loud enough or you know okay oh there was 50 okay there's 50 that they gathered over we had 900 just buying tickets then plus the other thousands that wanted to buy tickets that couldn't get tickets plus the millions online and the venue seems to just only worry about liberal complaints because the second they cancel my show, what do they do?
12:33They turn off comments on all their posts. They turn off reviews on Facebook. Any review, any negative review on that venue that says you guys cancel the show, I'm very upset about this. They just mark as spam and get it deleted. So if they don't care about complaints coming from the right or from people who already bought tickets who legitimately were going to go to your venue, but care about complaints from people who are never going to go to your venue, might not even live in your city, but are calling in. Honey, did you invite the Minions over? Well, you know how we talked about getting Wi-Fi from Xfinity?
13:09Yeah. I ordered it this morning. It was online in minutes. Then, they showed up. So they just came over to use the Wi-Fi? For what?
13:19Better not to know. Get online in minutes with same-day Wi-Fi from Xfinity. Plus, lock in your price for five years and see Minions and Monsters only in theaters. Xfinity. Imagine that. Restrictions apply. Not available in all areas. Learn more at Xfinity.com slash same-day Wi-Fi. Is that a free country? Is that a free speech? No. And the left pushes back and goes, well, it is free speech, but it's not free of consequences. It's a sold-out show. It's been on sale for seven months. We sold it out. I did my part. the venue decides to cancel it because they're getting complaints that is a that is a violation of free speech i'm sorry in my eyes maybe i don't know what you know british columbia and canada has some really crazy laws so i'm sure you know they they were suggesting the guy some guy was trying to get people to call the police during the show to have me arrested for hate speech when did it become the case that nerds like these people like i'm just really offended and i mean we used to take the piss out of them back in the day these people were losers and we all used to laugh at them yeah and they still are they'd be the people at school who would grass you up to the teachers like he said something nasty but now it's like oh we listen to these people I guess it's the payback we get for bullying the crap out of them in high school, right?
14:45We bullied them, and then we bullied them in university when they took liberal arts degrees, and we said, you're not going to have a job. You're not going to be anybody. You're going to be nobody. You're going to be working at McDonald's. We used to do that at my alma mater in Queens University in Kingston, Ontario, the frosh week, the first week, like freshman week. and they would you know the uh the engineers would say to the the arts majors their thing was mcdonald's mcdonald's you're gonna work at mcdonald's because your career your degree means nothing so those people got upset and those people were like maybe i'll get into politics and then they got into politics and then all the other people who were bullied and felt you know done wrong by voted for them and wanted yes we're going to change things we're going to They got rid of the jocks and the meanies and, you know, the toxic men.
15:39And we're going to replace it with feminized men and woke women and LGBTQ plus a two IA and, you know, BIPOC and all this stuff. And they don't want to lead for everybody. That's the big difference is that people who were in power before who weren't like ultra left did primarily. they they would make speeches and say we're we're trying to make we're here for everybody even though we won you know your guy lost but we want to make sure that you know that we care about you and your problems and for the most part they did conservatives were in power in canada uh homosexuality was not illegal uh they were so what do you want something you lose something but i don't think homosexuality should be illegal but but i know but but that's the point is that they think people on the right right are like homophobic anti-semitic it's like not true at all a lot of people on the right are pro-semitic or jews or are jews and like i have a joke about you know people like oh the right they they don't like gay people it's like not true if i meet a gay guy and he goes i like trump i'm like, oh, maybe I like Dick.
16:54But the point is that we should all be getting along and respecting each other's differences. And if I have a difference of opinion and a difference of joke and you don't like it, don't go to the show, ignore it, and move on with your life. And if you can't, well, I guess it was a good joke. Has it come to the point, do you think, in Canada? because I do think in the UK, a friend of the show, a magnificent comedian called Scott Capuro, he regularly tells me, he calls me up, I go, Scott, how's this week been? He went, well, I played a comedy club recently in London and I got reported to the European Court of Human Rights.
17:36Yeah. And then seriously, like people, and I think the problem is, it's you're dealing with children. The more you allow this sort of behaviour to continue, the more you embolden it and the more it happens whereas if you just turn around and go you're being to use british vernacular a bit of a minge mate grow up i think we'd see this stamped out pretty quick is that us saying it to them or yeah yeah yeah go but if everybody did it not just us but if literally everybody just turned around and went you can have your tantrum but ultimately i don't care i think a lot of conservatives traditionally people who voted conservatively weren't that involved in everything they had their jobs they had their good life and they go okay and then i vote conservative because screw all these people i don't want to give them money i don't care about them which is your right you you have a right to not care you don't have to care about everything what about the what about i don't care i'm not allowed i'm allowed to not care.
18:39So, um, I don't know. What was the question? So I guess the question is, is that if we tell them to stop or even just go, look, you can do it, but it's going to make no difference. Have your tantrum, have your tweets, whatever else is not going to change anything. Eventually it would stop working, wouldn't it? Correct. And a big problem is again, in Canada, the medium sized venues have these mission statements that they came up with i don't know why but they they came up with these woke mission statements and it gives ammunition to the people who want my show canceled to say hey look you're on your website it says you support fairness and being nice and no bad words or whatever and then this guy's doing the opposite of this and then And then they go, oh, no.
19:30And then the person in charge who's probably unsophisticated, probably doesn't understand what's going on in the world from both sides, is looking at it from one perspective, goes, good, we can get rid of them. We don't have to do it. We can just move on. And they think that they're going to be, the only backlash is going to come from the left.
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20:27Francis Foster:That is not a minor data point. If you only read right-leaning publications, you would have missed this completely. On the other hand, look at this. The UAE drops UK from scholarship list over radicalization concerns on university campuses. That's a significant story. Yet coverage from left-leaning outlets was almost non-existent. Ground News puts all of this in one place. Headlines, bias breakdowns, ownership, and context. So you can actually understand what's going on, not just react to what you're told. Go to ground.news slash trigonometry to get 40 % off their unlimited vantage plan, the same one we use, and stop being managed by the media.
21:04Francis Foster:It seems like America's kind of got past the point that Francis is talking about, though, right? Like, my sense, Britain, and by your telling Canada as well, hasn't. But in the US, it feels like no one actually gives a shit anymore, right? Thanks to Trump. I mean, he's the guy openly saying retard. and, you know, what speech has been limited by Trump? According to the left, it would be, you can't say that you want to destroy America and kill all the Jews. You're not allowed to do that anymore. I mean, you were never allowed. It's just that the Democrats wouldn't bat an eye at it even though they knew it was illegal, just like the immigration.
21:47They knew the immigration was coming in illegally, but it's going to help us. So let's keep doing it.
21:55Francis Foster:There is a lot of gaslighting going on. I don't know if you saw this story yesterday as we're recording this. There was a protest outside Mamdani's mansion in New York, right? And then somebody threw two improvised explosive devices. And most of the mainstream media reported it, like I just told you. What they failed to say is the devices were thrown by two Islamists at the protesters who were outside. Like the amount of just misrepresentation of what's going on is quite incredible. Well, if there's an incident where somebody throws a bomb at a protest, the main question is, wait, what was the protest?
22:35And that's wrong. I mean, if you're throwing a bomb at any protest, that's a big problem. But for some reason, if it was a liberal leftist protest, they would have said white supremacist attacks tax uh peaceful lgbtq anti-abortion rally uh or pro-abortion pro-abortion rally if it was an anti-abortion rally that's the thing pro-abortion rally somebody tries to blow it up how you know uh how dare you these people anti-abortion rally well they were they were causing some ruckus you know they were causing some problems out there and it shouldn't be like that free speech is free speech, you want to say what you want to say.
23:17If you want to protest, protest. If that's being attacked violently, it should be called out. And I saw that Mom Donnie half called it out, but really was more calling out the protest. And the thing that I always find surprising, Ben, is we talk about your comedy being offensive. I think back to what me and my mates used to joke about 20 years ago and what goes on in people's WhatsApp groups. If our WhatsApp groups, anybody's WhatsApp groups were doxxed, it'll be over for all of us. So actually what you're doing is a more honest version of comedy where you're going, hey, you know these fucked up thoughts that we all have?
23:56I'm going to say them in a funny way. I'm doing something different and people can argue that, people can hate on me, people can whatever, but I know what I'm doing in my heart and I know that it's a good thing for this world and for regular people to be able to feel free to express themselves and not feel afraid um and and every time i make a joke and i post it and it gets 10 million views that broadens the free speech array or what's what's you know and that's what the left really hates about my comedy if he makes that joke that means somebody else is going to make another joke and then somebody else is good yeah because you guys are trying to stop that you're trying to suppress free speech and then turn around like in canada they'll they'll shut down a show and then the people shutting it down will make a statement and go we believe in free speech but when it comes to this we don't that's you don't believe in free speech why not just come out and be honest be like we are against free speech free speech is dangerous we don't like it because that's the reality i'm sick of hearing i'm all in favor of freedom of speech except this guy really pushed what are you talking about that's what free speech is for but it's also just not the fact that what you're saying aren't opinions this is what really annoys me you're a comedian you do comedy the purpose of comedy by its nature is that you don't take it seriously you're not a politician getting up there and going well she died that's a good thing yeah might have to be though might have to be a politician don't become a politician but doesn't that frustrate you in a way um i mean it doesn't really for us i think the more angry people get i mean good we're very good let them get that mad at a joke okay so i'm if anything i'm actually doing the people who are angry a favor because instead of being angry at their own lives and their own failures and what's going on in the world and being angry that they can't pay their bills they get to just go online and look at my comedy and go this is what i'm going to spend time on this is what i'm going to be mad about so you're welcome to the people who are angry that i've given you a break from your own problems i
26:09Francis Foster:do think you've hit on something very true there which and and it's true of like everybody on all sides like you know you in britain you go to in england you go to a football game there's some very very angry men about somebody who's kicked the ball the wrong way i like that it's probably your divorce it's not that you know what i mean and it's like that with everything i think the internet just allows people to channel their rage yeah the failings and things that we all have to deal with in life at some figure that they claim is right ruin fucking everything because he told the joke in a comedy club you know they're not necessarily angry about the material or what i'm saying they're angry that i'm doing it in a way that is successful and in a way that is that if i did it on a podcast they'd go that was a buddy he's not buddy and they still say that on my stand but they know it's not true because they're watching people die laughing and clapping and that that's what really pisses them off and then they go okay well let me do the math if you 23rd tickets are 35 a piece you did 700 seats oh shit cancel it we can't let them get money we can't let them be successful we can't let them because they know that once you get successful once you have money you your words mean a lot more and and you're a that's that's a much better form of protest than standing outside in the rain with a sign screaming with a whistle is to get that's that's all good but how about i just get rich and then say what i want that's scary for people because when you're rich and you have some heat behind you people are gonna um listen and and like you said it's comedy i'm trying to make people laugh and when they laugh that is a threat to the left because they are anti-humor right now.
27:56They're anti, don't laugh at that. You can't laugh at that. Here's what you can laugh at. And to them, a good joke is something that only if it's not, doesn't offend anybody, doesn't hurt anybody. That's not going to make me laugh necessarily. Maybe if I'm at a kid's recital, I laugh at some borderline woke stuff. And honestly, some woke comedy, it's offensive the other way, talking about Trump. And sometimes I do laugh. I don't get angry. I don't watch comedy and get angry ever. I'm curious what the other side's doing. I watch and do their thing. I would never say, I hope he doesn't, he shouldn't make it.
28:32He shouldn't be paid. No, do your thing. Make your money.
28:36Francis Foster:And you can appreciate a good joke, even if you don't agree with the premise of it. I do that all the time. For sure. I mean, I'll laugh. And that's the thing is that people laugh at my, some of the people complaining about my comedy, I bet you anything did laugh. They watched it. They laughed and they go, oh my God, I'm so mad that I laughed. and then they they're how dare you this wasn't funny and it's like you laugh just just relax it's we're in a very tumultuous world and crazy time and the best way to get through hard times is to laugh that's what soldiers do that's what paramedics do that's what doctors do that's what everybody who has a tough job and a tough life does and you know the left needs to loosen up stop with the stop dying on the hill of free speech and what the other side is allowed to make jokes of what the other side is allowed to you guys do something better then canada there was a video it's absolutely hilarious i don't know if you can we'll show it to you later but the cbc which is like the bbc um made you know so after my one of my shows was canceled in kitchener i think ontario now they're getting another woke comedy group which is like a 65 year old woman who has like 200 followers and like some other lady who's like not just nobody and they're gonna do a comedy show for good and a comedy show it's called laugh good or whatever and it's to promote and we have 12 local comics so complete nobodies and this is our alternative.
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30:17We're giving an alternative for Ben Bankis. No you're not. You're cancelling my show and then you're saying this is what yours allowed and then nobody's going to buy tickets nobody's going to go to that show but that's fine. They almost rather have nobody show up to the show but it's not offensive than offensive and it's sold out. Because the way they portray you is that you're this kind of edgy dark lord who lives in the recesses of the internet and the ever loads of people that i know and i would include normies under this umbrella love your stuff share your stuff you are the mainstream you are far more mainstream in that sense than somebody who's like i don't know what a woman is they want to discredit me especially in the Canadian media they want to make it like I think in this video the woman was saying he is this new rage bait comedy it's like oh yeah you mean like Lenny Bruce right rage bait comedy from 1962 I mean this new phenomenon where a guy goes on stage says something really funny about a recent topic that's sensitive and everybody laughs they are it's pure propaganda they have a billion dollars behind them and i'm an independent artist and i'm canadian getting canceled in my own country by the canadian arts council and all that those people in order to put in their terrible comics that nobody knows and in their and they're so stupid that they think that my fans who are regular people are gonna get a refund notice on their ticket for my show and go well i'm glad i'm glad because that was going to be really bad what else is there to see oh uh comedy two female queer comics doing a a day interpretive dance let's go to that instead i mean are they that stupid that they really think that they're going to convince my fans who are working people jocks ex-hockey players, cop, lawyers, professionals, business owners, they're going to go and watch an extremely far left performance of nobody, no name comics.
32:28And this is what the, you know, people, it's like, they just think like, they just bought tickets. They didn't know what they were buying tickets. No, they're my fans. There's right now 1.4 something million between Facebook and Instagram. And they want to see me. They don't want to see your crap. And they're going to, all those all the venues that have tried or or want to cancel in canada they're going to be begging for me to come back in a couple years when i'm you know and they're going to say we're sorry we did we got new management we got i'm going to say i'm not coming back there man i'm not supporting a business that does that i think you're overestimating
33:07Francis Foster:people's ability to change their mind man they're not going to change their mind they're just going to be they're going to be kicked out because and because they do you really think that ben because You said it yourself, since they believe in communism, they don't give a shit about the money. They don't, but I have faith that it will change. I mean, Pierre Poliev, maybe he'll win. If not, maybe I'll have to fucking run. I'm not going to do that. We just had Pierre on the show. I know, I know. I listened to it. I've met Pierre, and I really respect Pierre. But he needs to win because he needs to go a little bit harder.
33:44And I've said this to a few MPs in Canada. that i know and because look at trump he went really hard he went hard okay and he won so you either go hard and win or you pretend to be kind of in the middle and you lose the people you're going to the way you're going to win an election in canada and i mean in the states this is what happened is you're going to activate voters that never voted stop trying to win over you know the new the little india we're gonna go to little india and we're gonna put on a turban the white politician puts on a turban and goes please no no stop it just say what you actually want to do we're gonna deport all these people go go into the little india be like hey who's here legally raise your hand who's not okay get out But I'm saying that there has to be some aggressive policy.
34:43Like if I was to run for prime minister in Canada, I would say we're going to get rid of all wokeness in every establishment in the country that is government funded. Anybody who's government funded, if you want to be woke, you can be private and you can lose money. But the government's not going to lose money and subsidize something that, like these venues? Why does the government have to subsidize a venue if they're going to cancel arbitrarily different performances and lose money? Why? We should be, Canada should be encouraging all the best comedians in America to come to all of the venues and treat them with the utmost respect and the utmost, be super welcoming, especially if they're selling out, especially if the people that the government represents who are the taxpayers are buying tickets to the venue that's the whole their whole argument is it's a taxpayer venue yeah you know who's a taxpayer me you know who's a taxpayer all the all the people who are going to the show you know who isn't or barely is a taxpayer the people complaining well oh yeah they're a taxpayer but they got a tax return they're they're actually getting paid by the government they're not tax they're not a taxpayer they're getting three four or five six thousand dollars at the end of the year because they they made so little money a while back i pushed myself in training because i'm a bit of a legend but ended up with a back strain that took far longer to recover from than it ever used to nothing dramatic just one of those moments where you realize your body isn't snapping back the way it once did.
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37:43Francis Foster:Would you not think, and I honestly don't know about Canada, But when I think about the UK and there seem to be some similarities, I go, I think the reason that a lot of politicians in this kind of center right don't go the Trump route is that the public are very different. Like the population of the country is like - Or they're bought and paid for. But what I'm getting at is like, there's a big cultural difference between Canada and America and Britain. No? I mean, Ari Matias is a great job. I think he went to Canada. We had him on the show a while back and he just went. And it's great to be in Canada, as I call it, gay America.
38:19Francis Foster:Very creative. Never heard that one. But if an American made that joke in Britain, there is a kernel of truth to it in that people see the world differently. People are much more, they are on the balance of things more work, or at least there's more of them. Is that not fair? What did Pierre lose by? Like a percentage or something? Like one or two percent? it's so close it's so 50 50 right and and that's of the people that vote which is only like 60 or 70 of the whole country so that 30 they're mostly not woke because woke people vote that's why they keep winning because they're so organized and they're they got their organizations and they're in their unions and sending out emails oh that was another one in sudbury ontario one of one of my audience members told me that her union, her union, teachers union, sent her an email saying not to attend my show.
39:18So that's where they're at. But the teachers union, teachers union sent an email to the teachers in Sudbury, Ontario saying, do not attend the Ben Bankis comedy show. It's hate filled, blah, blah, blah. Do you know? At least I got right. But you know, what's interesting about teachers is that the good ones, they have the darkest sense of humor. Oh, yeah. My mom. Yeah. Because when I was working in schools, the stuff that you deal with on a day-to-day basis... Here's the thing. There aren't any good ones anymore. Well, the good one was the one that came to my show and ignored that. But there's no...
39:54Imagine an email going out to a company or an organization saying, please do not attend this drag time story hour. This is... That can't... Oh, that's... And even the show in Nanaimo that they canceled 900 seats, the next day they announced an all-ages drag event. literally the next day they announced it and that was their like we're so sorry that we even were about to maybe have him here so let's have as many gay people on stage with their penis as possible so um the people who love my comedy are definitely you know most in canada i've got you most of them if not 99 of them would become american like this or be okay with 51st state and the reason is because of like what you said they're trying so hard to convince the people on the right that you have no option your opinion is invalid you're not allowed to have it you'll be fired if you have it you're a comedian you like this guy he's been cancer we're not going to allow him to perform and so it pushes people to be like well maybe we should just get an you know be part of america where free speech is allowed because why is why are we being pushed and pulled by the left who is not the dominant force in canada in term financially just politically you have a bunch of poor loser people protesting things you know like how on a scale of one tenth how insane do you have to be to protest a comedy show like how like are you like do you just do that and then after you're like oh that was a tough day all right tomorrow uh we gotta talk to my accountant i got no they're they're nobodies right so the answer is a trump style thing would work well in britain and in canada it's just a matter of stop being afraid that you're gonna lose stop being afraid
41:45Francis Foster:to lose what i find interesting is how unaware these people are that like 40 years ago was exactly the way the other way around and it was the religious right that was protesting and canceling comedians i mean bill hicks final letterman appearance that wasn't broadcast because i think he came out as being pro-lesbian made a joke that sounded like he was you know daddy's two like billy's two mummies or whatever um and other george carlin george carlin wasn't being arrested because he wasn't woke enough like do you know what i mean so it's it's funny how the very movement and ideology that came up on this idea of like well artists should be free to be creative and shouldn't be restricted by the state and they're now doing the exact same thing it is incredible they're doing it in an even more aggressive way because you know back then it had never been done so it was kind of like where's this coming from why are they swearing so much why are they talking about vulgarity um and sex and and all these things like when lennie bruce would be arrested and george carlin and and richard bryer and um now it's like we had the 80s and 90s and the 2000s and now all of a sudden it's let's go back let's actually no no no all that stuff we've been doing for 30 years that people have been loving that's been making billions and billions of dollars for the entertainment industry and hollywood and made all these stars famous and made jimmy kimmel famous because he was doing blackface and you know made it jimmy fallon did black everybody's doing black but now only those people can be famous and those people that were bad before are now the most woke and nobody can come into the industry that's what it is because really to break out in the industry you have to be different you have to say what you really think and be yourself and yeah maybe in 20 30 years when you know maybe i'll be like you know what Some of what I said was a little too far.
43:39But that's because you already have money. You know what I'm saying? You've already made it.
43:44Francis Foster:And by the way, you don't want to lose it. There's another part of it, which is like, they all have to act like they're super woke, even if a lot of them aren't. Because if you push back against this, well, you did blackface. Here's a fucking photo on the front page of the New York Times. What are you going to do now? They're worth enough money to speak their mind. I think it's now, it's just that they truly are and have been brainwashed. And I think that even millionaires who are part of the Hollywood system are being brainwashed. And, you know, I mean, people are coming to their house, you know, and the FBI is coming to your house and going, maybe we'll do a little more like this.
44:21Maybe the shtick goes a little this way. I don't know if that's actually happening, but if you're a late night TV show, there is some affiliation with like public policy and there's a reason why they're doing it. so it's not purely money because they think if you know how much is jimmy gimme worth i don't
44:39Francis Foster:think it's about money it's about status it's about status and friendship groups and whatever like you have you have a cozy life you have your friends you have your you the the golf club that you all of that bullshit and people fear i think losing being ostracized by their community a lot more than they fear losing money actually or losing future earnings having friends is overrated if you have time to have friends you're doing something wrong i mean you know i mean you're you're a friend but like it's nice to have but you can't even say the word when you're a friend no no you know but like you know we're not sitting on the couch playing xbox for four hours you know i'm saying like we're adults this is you know do i go i have a family once you have a family and you're working all the time who's who's your friend right nobody right your agent you know you're gonna find out one day that is not true but well maybe not but i do think it's important i mean look i'd rather be friends with people i'm paying because then i can fire them i don't want to be friends true friendship right there i mean that show business friendship but yeah i think the thing is as well is that you know once you get to a certain point you define yourself by having the jimmy kimmel show are you really jimmy kimmel without the Jimmy Kimmel show.
45:57And also you see a lot of people who work in legacy media. There's this fear because on a part of, on a, on a level, they got given something. They got given an opportunity. Now to be fair to all of them, they made the most of that opportunity. The show became successful, whatever. But there's still a part of it that was given to you. You were given that opportunity. No one gave the opportunity to you, Ben. You built it off your own back, which means that you are far more stable and secure than even the Jimmy Kimmels of this world who knows that at a split second, it can be taken away from them.
46:29Well, when Jimmy Kimmel made the comments about, uh, Charlie Kirk and they took his show off the air and it was this whole like fake thing where it's like cancel culture is coming to the, you know, the Trump shut it down. And then he was back in the air two days later. So it was never like he was shut down. It was never like he stopped being paid. It was all fake now here's my question to jimmy kimmel you think that there's a a lack of freedom of speech for people on the left well how about change your show all of a sudden and go completely right and you know just go like gutfeld be on the right see what happens see what happens will your speech be taken away because that's the true test you know what i'm saying yeah number one it might they might question it until the viewership goes up got fell gets more views than than all of those other late night tv shows why because is it because he's he's not lying i don't even think some of the people like the jimmy jimmy this and jimmy that they don't even believe the stuff they're pushing like you said they're just they're doing a job and um they're doing it well in the sense that they'll cry on They'll cry.
47:48They'll cry on command if they got to prove their point. Or maybe they do believe it. I don't know. But the point is, if they switched up and tried to become right wing, they would have their speech taken away very quickly by those networks, in my opinion. But it's also it's not about being right wing. It's just about being honest. You see sometimes they present these stories and you go, nobody believes this. The vast majority of people don't believe this. And if you're not prepared to take risks In a creative industry As an artist You're done It doesn't matter Even if you're doing observational material You still need to take risks I just don't understand This whole thing is like You're not allowed to say It's right wing But the left is allowed to say it's right wing They'll look at my comedy and go It's far right It's anti-woke But if you yourself are right wing Openly Then you're not allowed to do that why can't we the right if they want to continue being empowering in america and if they want to be in power in europe and stuff like that they have to kind of unfortunately use some of the tactics of the left at least in being loud and annoying um to win because otherwise the other side will just be louder and more annoying with less people and you know it's like you're not allowed to say at a workplace if you work for a bank and you're in the office and you go you know what i like ice let's get rid of more people i think they shouldn't be here that's not allowed you could be fired but if you come in and say we need to get rid of ice i would i think we need to go around and round up the ice agents and put them in jail and take away their rights that's fine so that's not right and generally my comedy is existing for the people who are frustrated about that to have some cathartic relief and laugh about the current state of the lack of freedom of speech and they should be allowed to do it they should be allowed to go to the show they should be allowed to laugh at it and if they're not then it's getting more serious you know it's it's there the left is making this more serious than it has to be they they claim some of the the nimo bc we're canceling the show for the safety of the community it's a comedy show what safety are you worried about well we're worried that some of the words in there are going to raise everybody laughing at those jokes already agrees with those things so you're just saying that they're not allowed to agree or they're not allowed to laugh and now you're actually making it more dangerous because now you have 900 people who live in your community you canceled their favorite thing that they were going to go do now they're pissed off Now they might go out into the community and say something crazy to who knows what at some bus stop and be like, you know, start instead of biting their tongue.
50:36If they went to my show and laughed about it, they'd look at it and just go, whatever. But I would I would disagree with what you said to say that they agree with your points of view. One of my favorite comedians who you probably have never heard of is a guy called Jerry Sadowitz. Jerry Sadowitz is one of the most brilliant comedians to ever grace the stage. And what Jerry Sadowitz does is he plays this character of the most pathetic, awful human being that you could ever see. He is the lowest of the low. And because of that, he does jokes about everyone that are really dark, really hateful, really offensive.
51:09He got cancelled from the Edinburgh Festival because people got upset. You know, the standard stuff. I don't agree with what Jerry Sadowitz says. I go to watch Jerry Sadowitz.
51:21Francis Foster:Why does everybody have to say this? No, no, no, no. I don't agree with it. I like it. France is making a different point. I don't know what his jokes were. The point he's trying to make is Jerry Sadowitz is not expressing his fucking opinion on stage. He's telling jokes. Right. And there's a big fucking difference. Yeah. A character telling jokes and a person expressing their opinions. Now, in your case, I think they're much more closely aligned. But France's point is sometimes it's just a joke. So, for instance, one of Jerry Sadowitz's jokes is Gary Glitter is the greatest rock star of our generation.
51:52He should be allowed to fuck who he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Gary Glitter is a pedophile who got arrested in Thailand. But the whole purpose of Jerry is that I'm going to say the most dark, outrageous, awful stuff, which is indefensible on any level. But I'm going to express it beautifully. I'm going to write it immaculately. And I'm going to deliver it phenomenally well so that you have to laugh despite you knowing full well that what I'm saying is... is awful. But do you see what I mean? You know how at the beginning of every year, people say, this is a year things change. Then by February, everything looks the same.
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54:35Yeah. If her name was, you know, some other random last name and you just said, I'm glad, like it doesn't, or good, it doesn't make sense. So yeah, of course the jokes, you know, are, are exaggerated over the top, but to laugh at them, you have to be in agreeance with something. You have to be in agreeance with me that I'm telling you a joke and that you're not going to, to, to, to be offended at it. You don't necessarily have to agree politically, but you have to agree to something you're making. When you go into a comedy show, you're, there's a con, there's an unwritten contract of, I'm going to tell the jokes and if you don't like it, you don't have to laugh.
55:13If you really don't like it, you can leave. You can't yell out. You can't cause problems during the show. And you understand that I am joking. Do you get a lot of people heckling you?
55:28Normal amount. People are really excited for my shows. They get really drunk. They get really drunk and then they end up heckling. um but they loved me you know what i'm saying and then i have yeah if i go to a random place and do a show somebody might freak out and get mad and um but you know i just don't understand this whole like it's like why do you have to explain that you're like that pedophile joke it's like why do you have to explain that you're against it like it's like obviously you know i'm saying like i i do epstein jokes and it's like somebody got mad at mothership i made a joke because i was saying that um you know whatever that he was a good guy you know so why is that but it's funny because it's obviously not true right yeah you know i'm saying now some of my jokes are funny because they are true or maybe that maybe maybe epstein was a good guy but you know like people he made jokes about indigenous people in canada oh so you're not allowed to you're not allowed to talk about a group of canadians that i'm i'm born and raised in canada grew up with the whole learn the history blah blah and i still can't make a joke well if you knew the history you'd know it's not funny oh give me a freaking break let me deal with what's funny you deal with what's serious you know i'm saying or i'll have to come over there and tell you what's serious and then they won't like that that won't be very funny i don't imagine they will no they'll be scared shitless if i was in power in canada full power would be scared shitless of me.
56:58I mean, you've got a glint in your eye when you say that. I'm going to have to do it. I'm going to have to maybe 10, 15 years from now. We'll see. How did Canada get in this mess? This is a question that I've actually wanted to ask Canadians. I mean, look at Europe. It's the same problem. Do you think it's the same problem? Yeah. It's the same civilization. What's the problem? The problem is over-empathy and feeling bad for people that we shouldn't feel bad for and you know letting in millions and millions of immigrants into the country that have completely different views hate the west want to change the west want to implement sharia law want to implement um you know okay we'll split up the west basically okay this is the sharia part this is the lgbtq plus uh trans part uh this is the uh hindu part and then there's a little sliver for the people who yeah you remember your country this is where you go so and when you do that and you have people in power so that the lgbtq plus people created all these woke rules that now ultra uh is like islamists are taking advantage of right so their rules were originally like we're just gay we just want to be gay we don't want anybody to make fun of us and we don't want to get our feelings hurt we want to be able to shake our dicks in front of kids and do drag queen story hour and all this stuff and then the islamists are like coming in going oh my god if they're falling for this they'll fall for our stuff you know that if oh and then they can say whatever they want and anybody who says anything to me that's discrimination based on the laws that the gay people pass and now so it's and and another reason that all this nonsense because normal regular people are busy doing comedy and podcasts instead of politics because we don't want to we thought we could just live in a country and be successful and follow our dreams and the people who didn't think that was the case are now in power right so they don't
59:03Francis Foster:want you to live in your life they want to be in your shit they want to be in your business i think we need to make being in politics cool again for the cool people and the cool people might need to go back into politics and start saying what they really want to say and pushing what they really want instead of just being at home shaking their head going oh this is horrible anyway got to go to work yeah it's a good point actually we need to get back to the era of jfk where you could basically be a cool president and have sex with marilyn monroe nothing wrong with it nothing wrong with being a cool president nothing wrong with being a cool prime minister um and you know keir starmer is so not that and he's so he's so aggressively uh so aggressively woke and so you know i've never seen him laugh or smile he takes everything super seriously everything is hello to the british people this is one of the worst there's no fun where's the fun when's the last time a politician talked about have fun when's the last time a politician said But we need to care about families and worry about the health and longevity and the love.
1:00:14The left has hijacked love. They now, like bad money, I am against, I am, love is stronger than I hate. First of all, no, it's not. But second of all. Yeah, historically speaking, I think you're onto something. but why does the community who aborts kids wants to have trans as their kids uh doesn't really or doesn't have kids or doesn't want kids why are they the community of love and it's all about what's when they when the left says love what they really mean is allowing illegal immigration to happen unfettered nobody should check it uh love is uh you know we have to loving our trans community need loving what about but the left the right is the one who actually loves they love their family they love their country they would die for their country die for their family protect their family like i have kids i love my kids you're telling me that the love that the lgbtq plus community has for each other is stronger than the love that people have for their children like what are we doing here they're not the arbiter of truth they're not the arbiter of love and if anything the left is the hateful, evil side of things now that has disregarded God.
1:01:34I mean, you don't have to be religious to believe in God. We're on a rock spitting in the middle of a galaxy in a universe we don't understand, swimming in some sort of soup that we're all in, that we can't see, that we breathe in. Something insane is going on on Earth, and when you're thinking about these trivial, well, he said a joke that I didn't like, And does he not know how serious it is that women historically have been marginalized?
1:02:10Francis Foster:Ben Bankas and Theo Von and Francis Foster. is so being... I was trying to give him benefit. No, but this is what I don't... I did a debate with this Destiny guy and I met some of his audience and it radicalized me. Because these people, they just, they don't... Like you said, they don't want to do the work that it takes to achieve anything. But a lot of them also maybe just can't. And so they are stuck in loser-ville and because of that, they hate everyone who isn't. Well, that's why they side with Hamas. they side with like terrorist organizations because like you said they feel that well i'm not good i can't become anything so let's just burn it all down and let's just you know uh let's let's not like you know i hate elon because he's a billionaire because he works and i hate this person i hate that person it's like you know if you're if you're not waking up every day going how do i become more successful or how do i fix something how do i improve my life improving your own life will do more for the country than marching around with a sign uh trying to get a comedy show canceled or trying to get anything canceled and that goes for both sides like if you're on the right and you really you're you're out of protest i get it but like be successful start a business buy some pool cleaning equipment uh clean your room clean your room but i'm saying buy some pool cleaning equipment and create a pool business that cleans pools and do something it's not that hard to start a business than to be successful and my message to the left is the opposite of yours in a way that because i want them to snap out of it i do think they're capable of doing great things but they have to put down the sign push the put down the phone and focus on something and i know i and i sound like a parent maybe a parent that they never had or the parent they did have that they resent but this is what's going on right now is the right needs to parent the left and they need to basically say hey like you said this no you're ruining the country you're destroying everything you have to stop and if they don't what what do we do what is the consequence we just have no more uh you know canada will have no comedy shows cancel everything unless you're a government funded comedian like in the soviet union like my dad he's he's from the soviet union former soviet union lithuania and he talks when he watches the cbc in canada he goes this is soviet like the level of propaganda it's it's legit so no comedy's comedy if you don't like it don't go uh and as for everything else show me one thing where the left has improved anything like one thing the coffee that's true it's coffee look I'm look it's at the very end at after all the uh the human trafficking and the in the in the colombian forest jungle and the children picking at the tree and the bing bing bing and then and then finally and then it's processed but at a plant with a bunch of probably republican people working at it and it and the companies and then finally in the last second some woke person goes do you want uh do you want americano or do you want howl milk okay yeah but you can't deny it conservatives are terrible at making coffee and also they're terrible at making movies And they're terrible at making breakfast.
1:06:06Francis Foster:Really? Yeah, conservative breakfasts are terrible. What's a conservative breakfast? Oh, you know, it's heavy and it's stodgy and it's just... Wait, what about the English breakfast? Surely that's conservative because it's traditional, right? The English... Have you ever had an English... You look like you've had an English breakfast. You look like you're enjoying English breakfast. What is it? What do you mean? It's bad. Shwarmer? Get out. Get out. No, it's like tea and crumpets, right? Yeah, yeah, tea and crumpets. Well, no, it's black pudding. Sausage, egg, bacon, baked beans, hash brown, all that good stuff.
1:06:39Yeah, I've had that.
1:06:40Francis Foster:That's a conservative breakfast, surely. Yeah. When you come to basically Canada Mark II, which is the UK. What movies have conservatives made that are bad? Because the pushback to that is Clint Eastwood is a conservative. He's made some great movies. Yeah. The issue is that conservatives don't want to make movies. The ones that would be good at it are making money doing something else, owning a you know a some random company that does pool cleaning or you know and they never they just made their money they're like I'm not going to get into movies you know what my hope is is that we reached the peak of this in politics with Justin Trudeau who was the wokest of the woke of the woke and you talk about Canada and I think what we're doing is we're not being really honest in a way because your population voted for Trudeau who was the literal worst you know what was what did he say once when he went amen and he said a woman that wasn't him though wasn't it him no it's some American senator mail-in ballot I mean I'm not a conspiracy guy fully but I know that mail-in ballots were huge in that election because it was COVID you know pierre poliev again he didn't push hard enough he should have he didn't push hard enough against everything and he made a lot of conservatives vote for this other party that is like more right and that's why they lost because if they had not had that other party they would have voted for him and he wouldn't want so um the idea that everybody supported him is not true.
1:08:21The people who vote, he won from the people who vote. The people who don't vote didn't vote. Why didn't they vote? Well, because the conservative guy didn't make them want to vote. I mean, that's absolutely fair. Do you think that we're going to see Canada get better? Do you have hope for Canada? I have hope. I think that me doing my shows is helping. I mean, I do, because when they happen, it gives people hope. They cancel two and then we're still going to do three. This weekend, I have six sold out in Niagara Falls and then sold out in Lethbridge, Alberta, sold out in Cranbrook, BC, sold out in Campbell River, BC, sold out in Kelowna, BC.
1:09:05And when those shows happen, people see it and they feel hope that the country is what it used to be. And they think that they're going to cancel shows and it's somehow going to like get rid of me it's like you're literally you know making me bigger you're making me more people who haven't heard of me go who are these people complaining about these people that i hate who are they complaining about then they see it's me and they go oh i love oh i can't believe i never heard of this guy where when is he performing okay i'm gonna go get tickets so yeah thank you to the haters and keep people in the venues, you know, do your thing, and they're trying to get the shows canceled because they have nothing better to do.
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1:11:56So once again, click the link in the description or go to learn.lingopie.com slash trigonometry. Because the concern is, Ben, is that the people who are entrepreneurial, the people who are on the right, the people who want to achieve things, build things, they're going to leave Canada because, quite frankly, why would you stay? They already have. A lot of them already have. I mean, I ran into, I mean, when I'm in Canada, I do get recognized on the street. I ran into two people in Yorkville, um, just crossing the street. And the one guy was a young guy, tall guy. And he was like, love everything you're doing.
1:12:34You know, thank you for, for being brave enough to just do what you're doing. And, um, and he's like, you live in the States mostly. I'm like, yeah. And he's like, man, I was just in Scottsdale. So nice. It's so good. I just, I want to get down. Everybody wants to go, um, because they're the regular normal people who aren't woke can't handle it anymore and that's part of the part of the goal of the woke in my opinion is to make it so horrible that the people they hate leave which is successful people who's gonna pay all the taxes when that happens they don't care they just borrow money it's all fake they just keep borrowing from whoever in china and they do that they have some system where they they buy the bonds back from themselves and to print the money and i forget i don't know i'm not a finance, but I know that it's not good.
1:13:25It's not sustainable, but they want this, this world. And then they have more crime and more poverty and more starvation and all these problems. And then they have, eventually they're going to have nobody but themselves to blame. So it might, maybe it will be a 30 year thing where they go full, full communist and everybody, any dissenters are either arrested or have to leave. And then when finally the new generation of woke people go, wait, it's like, why is everything like this? I don't like this. Then it'll change because the people now are brainwashed to the extreme. They are. The people who, like you said, there's more of them.
1:14:07I don't know if there's more, but they're loud and they're super brainwashed and they believe it so much that they'll do anything. They'll do anything to shut things down, including violence. Because it's so bizarre, because Canada should be one of the most successful, richest nations on the planet. When you look at the resources that you have, you should be literally top five, top six richest nations. And you look at the population as well, who are super educated. Your universities are incredibly prestigious. You've got literally everything. They've all been infiltrated. All the universities are infiltrated by China and super...
1:14:53I mean, part of ultra-woke is China, I believe, that they knew, they studied, how do we destroy the West? And they go, let's woke and then immigration... Ben, look, Ben, you can't do the... Without doing the accent, come on. We need to make the gay people in charge of the country. and then fill the country with muslims and then then we can have control of the farm ranch but that's really they um what they want is is is control it's all about control part of the apology stuff and not like why did they cancel all those pipelines where they could have been pumping gas to the entire world and canada could have been a leader in natural gas and oil production or whatever, getting it out of the ground because of woke, because it's environmentally not friendly and because the indigenous people and because of this.
1:15:51But although the environment and the indigenous people would be better taken care of if Canada was rich, it's the same thing. It's the same. I'm going to hold the sign up and say I'm for this instead of I'm going to forget about all that, focus on my business, get rich, and then maybe have an opinion about something once I'm a prominent individual. So Canada decided, let's not be a prominent country. Let's stand up for all these BS woke takes. So there's no pipeline. Now they're giving all the land back to the indigenous people that are already impoverished. And sorry to say, a lot of them are, you know, they're not in great shape.
1:16:31And what is the reason for that? They've been given billions of dollars. Why are they not in great shape? Well, they need the land back. Okay, here's the land. Oh, they're still not in great shape. What do they need? Well, they need to make sure that there's no freedom of speech so nobody can talk badly about them and then they'll be okay and then they're destroying good countries and it's coming from these people who are brainwashed maybe by china maybe you know the tiktoks i don't know what it is but i'm against it i want canada to be a great safe amazing place to raise your families to you should be able to have the school should not be filled with political stuff and political i mean transgender ideology and all that stuff which imagine having to learn about transgender ideology a week after there was a trans person who shot up school and there's people dead and then the next the first class back they're like well we need to first of all let's acknowledge the land we're on it's all fake it's all meant to make you insane it's all meant to make you angry so that you hopefully i think their main goal is that you do something crazy and then they can really now we're strapped well
1:17:40Francis Foster:you mentioned a good place for families how are you finding being a dad i love being a dad i think everybody should be a parent i think that you grow up and a lot of these people who are out there protesting who have no kids no nothing no job no no responsibilities it's like you didn't grow up once you have a kid that's when you have your own kid you deal with your own traumas from when you grew up or whatever. You remember, oh, that's why my dad was mad because this and that. Everything starts to make sense. It's healing. It's a healing thing to have your own family. And these people who want to destroy that and take away, first of all, the first way they destroy it, well, women need to work too.
1:18:27They want women's rights. but what they really mean is they want women to work as hard as men and then also be taken care of like they're women it's like you can't have both you can't have both and women like staying at home and taking care of kids i guess not all women do i get it not women not all women but there's nobody's forcing you to do that but people are forcing other people to go to work because the economy is getting so horrible that it's like, in Canada at least, you can't do it. In America you can't. There's more and more state-owned moms every day.
1:19:06Francis Foster:Well, the evidence is very clear. Statistically speaking, most women would prefer the opportunity to stay at home with their kids for a lot longer than they get to. And now there's these women in their 50s and they're like, my kids, I just don't know what happened to them. They were so sweet. What happened is you didn't stay home and you sent them to some school and you made a false reality of what they're working towards. And their whole goal is to get 85 average so they can get into some university so that they can go there and have sex with a million people. And then after that, they can hopefully go into the workforce.
1:19:37And then hopefully they meet a guy by 35. And then hopefully, it's all bullshit. The reason why people used to get married so young, I think, and why it makes more sense is because you actually can love somebody then. You know, like think about your first and second loves versus you know dating in your 30s or dating in your 40s or 50s that's why those marriages lasted they met young they had kids young they grew up in their 20s they didn't grow up in their 40s like now it's like people are i'm adulting you're 43 like you should have had a kid at 20 i mean i wish i had kids earlier and i had a kid at 30 but i would have maybe you know maybe it was the right time but either way 30 is still young nowadays but my message to people who love me and love my comedy is thank you love yourself forget about these people do what you need to do stand up don't forget about them in the sense that don't let them ruin your day but if you're if you need to stand up to somebody or say something in public like do it don't break the law but like if somebody's clearly woke and has a mask on and is like causing a scene be like hey tell them people don't agree with you you should know that people need people need to tell people that are pushing this ideology that they're wrong to their face because they don't they don't go out and see that they're so protected from getting the other opinion online they oh oh, no, block, block, block.
1:21:16Oh, I don't look at any of that stuff. I, you know, even some of the announcements, they'll make an announcement, you know, trying to get, we here at the Homosexual Society of whatever town are trying to get Ben Bankers to show, and then the first comment is, we have muted comments to protect the members of the LGBT, what are we talking, so there's no debate. No debate. Have a debate. I'm on the verge, I was thinking, like, maybe I should, in some of these towns, like, should I just do a show where I invite people who hate me on stage and like debate them or something like those shows would that make them not what like maybe like don't cancel the show you can come you can come and go on stage and try to debate me in front of my crowd see how it works I can see why you'd want to do that yeah it'll be really fun yeah some good clips yeah for you it'd be fun for them it'd be horrible but that's the point that's the point because they want
1:22:10Francis Foster:attention okay let's give you attention and did you have any uh any funny thoughts on iran and what's happening there i mean only horrible thoughts all right next funny thoughts on iran there's you know people are against it i i don't i don't know i think that we need to blow some people up that's a very mega point of view mega loves the war yeah well not all of it but look 85 % of America. I've been saying we should blow up. We should blow up everybody because they don't like us. Well, they want to blow us up, but it's the same thing. It's like woke. It's like, you can make fun of me, but if I make fun of you, oh, that's bad.
1:22:57So, and I guess it's different because people are dying. Apparently. So you're not pro Ayatollah? I'm not pro Ayatollah. he's kind of dead so it's hard to be look this was something that was going to happen whether it was
1:23:13Francis Foster:now or in 20 years or in 50 years you can't have around having nuclear weapons but i mean the rest of it is complicated also i mean this is my intellectual people on the left supported the war in ukraine they support ukraine against russia they want ukraine to win they still have the ukrainian thing in their bio and they go america needs to step up and help us And we, America did. I mean, I say we, because I live here or not, because I'm American. But I mean, Canada helped too. They sent some helmets. But America gave billions, right? Or trillions to the Ukraine push to fight back against Russia.
1:23:54And it's not enough. And the Europeans are saying, it's not enough. We need to do more. So America goes, all right, let's blow the shit out of Iran. Because they're giving Russia.
1:24:04Francis Foster:That actually helps Ukraine massively. It's huge. Right, because the Iranians can't send their drones to Russia anymore. The Iranians are sending military equipment to Russia. They're sending energy, gas, oil, everything to Russia. They support Russia. America goes in, blows the shit out of Iran, and everybody's like, this is an illegal war. It's like, but we're helping the guy. This is how we, you got to think outside the box. What, are we just going to go into full force into Ukraine and get all of Europe nuked? No, let's go in and attack their weakest, their weakest ally that's supplying them with stuff.
1:24:41So the Democrats should be happy. And secretly, some of them know this and they're going, oh, this actually does help the Ukraine poll. And, you know, Zelensky is on board with it. And. And here Starmer goes. He somebody he probably realized this two days too late because the first day he's like, we do not stand with them because we want to make sure the Muslims don't riot here. and then two days later he goes oh this is good for ukraine we got it let's join in and he goes we're gonna join and the and trump goes we don't need uh allies jumping in when we already won the war and it's such an interesting thing to see that so america played it so good trump played it so good that the europeans where is america helping us with ukraine we need to help billions of dollars from ukraine and america was saying spend your own money more you need to up your military budget.
1:25:33They weren't doing it. And then finally America goes, okay, well, I'm going to help you, but in a different way, are you going to help me? And they go, no. So the countries want help from America to fight off Russia, but they won't help America to fight off Russia in an out of the box way because they're not smart enough to realize what's going on. There's a lot of high level stuff going on and a lot of smart people are behind closed doors. And I think they have a i think they got a hold of it i think he uh mr secretary of war pete hegseth is also very very good he's he's a he's a genius uh in in some ways i know that people would disagree with that and hey don't judge a book by its cover but he's uh not that he i mean people think he they're like he's not i'm like he's clearly smart he knows what he's doing and i have faith in those people and if it goes wrong i would say something or if i disagreed i would say something but so far the only thing i disagree with in the iran war is the amount of fake news that the left like are they're supporting this ai like fake worse footage and being like welcome israel's getting pounded it's like that's literally ai like you guys have lost your minds you're literally posting ai and pretending like something's happening that's not.
1:26:50So that's bad. Ben, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. I can't even say it with a straight face. Yeah, he has. You're like, holy shit. That's really Ben Magnus. Final question is always the same. What's the one thing we're not talking about that we really should be?
1:27:07Francis Foster:Before Ben answers the final question, at the end of the interview, make sure to go to triggerpod.co.uk where you'll see this. Are there things you poke fun at in the relatively safe surroundings of Austin that you might be a little more circumspect of in the woke environs of Toronto. Who would Muslim extremists have to kill for you to believe that their intentions are benevolent? What's the one thing we're not talking about that we really should be?
1:27:35Francis Foster:Jews. We didn't talk about the Jews enough. Quite a lot of people talk about Jews now. You're a Jewish background, right? No. You won't admit to it in the current climate. i mean my dad was uh jew is like he's not religious he's not yeah he's not religious but right he was born in lithuania right after the second world war so his parents used to be probably just a little bit more than bored born oh born yeah he was born yeah he was born yeah look people my opinions people can't handle my opinion but my opinion is that for the most Jews created a lot of good things that we use today and I don't hate them I think that's controversial to say I don't hate Jews at all I like them people are going to be mad about this I do I agree with you I said are there a lot of people are going to be mad about this i don't know i get sometimes people are like like i'll have like the best bit and be like was funny but then i researched and found out he's a jew so not funny it's like what does that even mean and i'm not i don't go to synagogue i don't know how to speak hebrew i don't know anything um are you good with money i mean i'm making money there you go and that's the most important thing in this world is to take care of yourself and your family and to have faith in some sort of higher power because you're going to need that.
1:29:09You're going to need that. If you're fighting off millions of people who hate you, you're going to need the power of the universe to do that. My goal is to become the biggest comic in the world. Or Prime Minister of Canada. Well, that's the same thing. But to become Prime Minister, you've got to become... Canada's never had a famous, already famous, prime minister besides trudeau but he wasn't famous for something he did himself um so maybe that's maybe that's the future but for now we're going to sell out everything and we're going to have my shows people have the best time of their lives so we'll see you there well you're doing
1:29:53Francis Foster:very well man so congratulations and thanks for coming on head on over to triggerpod.co.uk where where we ask Ben your questions. What conversations have you had with other comedians that have experienced cancellation, i.e. Shane Gillis, Tony Hinchcliffe, et cetera? Have they given you any advice? This is behind the paywall? Yeah.
1:30:29Thank you.
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