Hilarious Comedian Jeff Dye: Why the World's Gone Crazy!

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23:35Absolutely. And that's how we look at everything. Jeff goes, you know what? I don't really like the way that women don't really have any rights in many Muslim countries. I don't think that's cool. And they're like, oh, good guy, Nazi. Eh, Nazi. Right. And they say, oh, you don't understand their culture. You understand? Like, what do you, I think that that would just be a basic thing. No matter what the culture is, no matter what the region is, probably don't hit her with sticks in the courtyard. And then they go, oh my God, can you believe this guy doesn't even understand how our culture works.

24:04And I go, I don't, I don't like it. But I have a commitment or I've made a commitment to myself where I'm just going to say what I think about the thing. And if I'm wrong, then I'll change my position on it when I feel like I'm wrong. But I feel like no matter what it is, I treat a woman as the same, which they don't like. They go, hey, treat me like a woman. I go, no, I'm going to treat you the way I treat everyone else. Same with whatever religion it is or whatever culture it is, whatever race it is. I don't talk different because I'm around my black friends. I don't, I don't, I'm not more gentle with my opinions because a girl is in the room.

24:38I'm always just going to be the way it is. Yeah, and it's also as well, like, there are things that you, that people say that sound controversial that kind of aren't. I remember I was on a date with a girl and she was like, you know, all cultures are equal. And I went, they're really not. And she was like, what do you mean? I'm like, well, would you prefer to live here or under Taliban rule in Afghanistan? And she was like, here. And I'm like, so where's better?

25:04Francis Foster:It's a hierarchy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was like, ah. How did that date go, man? I mean, that was it. I was also going to say, like, what a fun hour you had right after that first sentence. Like, just being like, I disagree with all cultures are equal. And then you're like, oh, that's going to be our next hour. I'm talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you won the argument. Yeah. You won the battle and lost the war in that one. Exactly. But that's the thing as well. It's like, and this is the thing that I get really, I feel really sorry, actually, for young kids, which is politics is now everything and everywhere.

25:37We're the same age. I don't remember being kids and talking about George Bush's presidency. Yeah, you'd have to be a nerd to like a president or like a politician or a mayor or a governor or any of those things. It was very nerdy. I don't know if you went to college, but if you did, do you remember the kids who were into politics in college? No. Yeah. Well, I mean, I didn't go to college. But you're making a good point. Everything has only become political in the last 10 or 8 years in my life. People go, I don't remember you being so political comedically. I'm like, everything's political. I can't even be a comedian without being political because everything is political.

26:20The weather was not political when I was young. When you talk about how warm it is in spring, it didn't launch into them seeding the clouds. It didn't launch into global warming. It didn't launch into oil companies and the farming. You just talked about the weather. Whereas now there's nothing you can talk about that isn't political. It's like now we all are forced to be political.

26:42Francis Foster:That's so interesting. I just saw a clip on your Instagram, which is a great bit about how gun store owners can't take a joke, basically. And it's hilarious. And now that you've said that, I go, well, actually, 10 years ago, that would not have been a political joke. Because a Republican who gets humor would also go to a gun store and be like, these guys are a bit uptight. Because that's what a gun store owner is going to be. He's got to be serious. He's got to be disciplined. He's got to take the stuff that he does seriously and communicate that to his customers. And everybody else can see that, whether they're an R or a D.

27:18Francis Foster:Yeah. But now, I process that bit as you go, oh, Jeff is pushing back against the... It's so true. Literally everything. I don't recall even sexual behavior being political, and now it is. How do you mean? You were able to just like whatever you liked growing up. Where I grew up, you had the gay neighbors, and you had your straight parents. And that was just your neighborhood. Whereas, and maybe this is just unique to like Seattle area. But now like you have to be pro-gay. Like what does that mean? Pro-gay? Like I have to root them on or like, I don't understand like what it means. I don't even know what it means to be anti-gay.

28:00Like, does that mean you like you, you think it's gross? Cause I do. I do think it's gross, but I also don't engage in it. Like that's, I don't engage in anything that I don't like. I like even people who they're hooking up with is somehow a political statement. Like wearing like a rainbow. I support this community. It's like, they're just people. What do you mean you support them? Like, I don't understand how even that is like a political march. It's very strange. Oh man, we were just in San Francisco. And I walked into this coffee shop. By the way, it's a hack observation. Left-wing people do coffee much better than the right.

28:33The right, the way they do coffee is a fucking disgrace. Yeah, which is strange. Let's turn that around. What's going on here? And I sat down in this coffee shop in San Francisco and there were eight rainbow and pride flags. Yeah. And I'm like, boys, you're one. And we get it. Yeah. Who cares who you're f***ing? Yeah. No one gives a f***. Yeah. I'm not grossed out by it unless I had to like try to do it myself. That would gross me out. But like I go, okay. Like I don't understand. I don't really understand it. Yeah. And it's kind of like everything now you have to be part of an identity. because if you're not an identity, then you're kind of on the outside, which is why every white man is now neurodivergent.

29:15Yeah. Because you need... Very convenient, yeah. Yeah, you need something. Right. You can't just be a regular dude. Every female comic I know is bisexual, but they're not. They just say it to get the claps from the audience. Like, I'm bisexual. The guys are like, oh, because that's a group they don't have to prove they're in. It makes them look very open-minded, but they're all liars. Yeah, and it's like blackface is unacceptable, but gay face isn't. Right. Yeah, or drag. Drag is woman face. Yeah. That's a man admitting he's a man, pretending to be a woman, doing his best impression of a woman, wearing that that's woman face.

29:52Yeah. Yeah, it makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense. And it's just, you know, it's almost like it's been mandated. Like, you have to like this. You can't like this. You have to celebrate this. You have to be upset at this. And someone listening to this might say, well, why does it matter? Who cares, right? Like maybe the Neil Dashiell, why do you care? Well, I'll tell you what, there's a big wave of young people sharing very racist reels, sharing very pro-Nazi, pro, you know, very, I don't know the right term for it, very alarming, I guess, for the reels. And why do you think they're doing that?

30:33Because it's almost punk rock now to do that. It is less about the hate and less about the racism and all the whatever. It's you've made it so exhausting. Society has made it so exhausting to be like this virtue signaling pro LGBT pro. Like your parents are these like soft people who wouldn't put hormones in their chicken, but they'll put it in their fifth grade daughter. And so now you're going to witness this terrible rebellion that you're really going to regret. Like they've fatigued everyone with all this bullshit. And it's causing some, I think, some pretty alarming stuff on the internet of what is becoming cool.

31:14Francis Foster:Well, it's interesting, isn't it? Because that's definitely happening. And it's not only is it happening, kids being rebellious, you can see it bleeding into real politics as well. Gypsy, whatever his name is with the clown face, you know this guy? No. He's a gypsy crusader or something like that. Let's not give him a signal. Oh, yeah, well, but now, you know, this guy or Nick Fuentes or any of these things. Like, you're wondering why it's taking off. Like, why it's becoming... Because it's becoming naughty and edgy and political... Or not political. Naughty, edgy, and, like, it's becoming punk rock.

31:46Yeah, it's like avant-garde. Yes. It's like you're pushing... Look how naughty I'm being. Right, right. Which is very attractive to young people. Of course. And, like, and it's very scary. Young men, especially.

31:56Francis Foster:Yeah, it is very scary. Well, it's an interesting dynamic. It was kind of predictable. I mean, it's one of the reasons that I was always so concerned about wokeness. As someone who never thought of myself as being on the right, I just was like, you guys are being retarded. Like, you do this, you're going to cause the exact same thing from the other side. And by the way, the other thing we talked about is, like, if you make it terrible to be a particular sex or a particular skin color, and that's the worst thing you can be, while you celebrate other people for their skin color and their sex, what do you think is going to happen?

32:34Francis Foster:Yeah. What do you think all these guys you've been pointing your finger at for 10 years, what, they're just going to just sit there and take it? Yeah, no, they won't. Yeah, I know. Especially, as you said, with that young brain when, like, it probably didn't affect you and didn't affect me and didn't affect Frances because we're older. I've got my wife. When she sees a girl walking around or a guy walking around with the future's female t-shirt, she's just going, this guy's retarded. Yeah, he's dumb. Yeah, exactly. This is dumb. What the f*** is this? But if you're a 15-year-old boy, you don't have anyone to tell you this is just a crazy phase in human history.

33:09Francis Foster:You're going, this is the world. Yeah. And then your reaction to that is going to be what it's going to be. Yeah, the shirt should say the future is robot. That's what it should say. That's accurate. Yeah, because a good shirt would be the future is human. But we're not going that direction. I have always, it's funny, I think the more I'm talking to you guys, the more I'm realizing smart people are good at just finding the double standard and then weighing the logic of it. You know, it's like it is so easy. It should be easy to understand, hey, don't treat people wrong because of the color of their skin.

33:42But that would include all skin colors. Right. Yes. Like you think like that's a very, but they don't. They need a villain. They need a have to have a have not. They need an oppressor to have an oppressed. And so they can't even see it as that. They've got to see it as like, let's unite white people. That's not uniting, you know? And so smart people can see that and then measure it and then try to like deal with it. I am always in an obsessive state of mind with like, what am I allowed to judge? People who follow this show tend to think for themselves. and anyone paying attention can see that the same carriers keep showing up in stories about data breaches, leaks, and surveillance scandals.

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36:30And then I go, okay, here's where I was being wrong. Here's how I was being immature. Here's how I was maybe being a little afraid. Or here's why I was being... And then I try to weigh it out. But, like, for example, like, I don't need to be pro or anti-gay. Gay just is. And their opinion of... My opinion of it is almost irrelevant because I'm not a gay guy. So it doesn't matter. But I can still be respectful, and I can still be nice, and I can still have gay friends. I don't need to approve of anything. I don't need to approve of tennis. My opinion of tennis is irrelevant, similar to my opinion of being gay.

37:03But when can I start judging it? So if I'm smoking a cigar with my buddy, and I'm in Seattle, and a guy's... You really are on the right one. I love a cigar. I don't have booze anymore, so cigars are my thing. I'm smoking a cigar and this guy's walking his boyfriend on a leash. The boyfriend's got like a leather dog mask. And in my mind, I go, listen, I don't want to hurt those guys. I don't want anyone to be mean to those guys. I don't want anyone to shout anything to those guys. But can I go, what the f*** are we doing? When can I nudge my buddy and go, look at these f***ing guys? You know what I'm saying?

37:38Like, that's where I try to, like, figure out where. because I think a hundred years ago, if you saw that, we would be allowed to yell at those guys, right? Yes. They'd probably be arrested. So I'm always wondering, when can I judge?

37:55Francis Foster:That's right. Yeah. Well, I think you can judge that. Yeah, I judged it. Yeah. You judged it pretty hard. You know, because to me, when I see those guys, I go, well, what you're doing, that is provocative. Sure. I don't care how you want to frame it. You're doing that because you want a reaction. Yeah. So that you then have something to talk about. Otherwise, you wouldn't walk down the road dressed all in leather in a thong with your boyfriend on a leash wearing a dog mask. Also, it's got nothing to do with being gay anyway. Like, if I saw a guy walking his wife on a leash, you'd also be like, what the f*** is this?

38:32Great point, yeah. And I also think it might even be more nefarious because they're thinking, well, if this is normalized, then we're really making progress here. We're really going down the crazy socialist, Marxist kind of what is kind of path. And if you can get away with that, well, we're doing pretty good in Seattle. If we can, you know, like we've made good progress here. I walked my boyfriend 10 blocks and everyone just waved. Everyone let us just get away with whatever we want. Yeah, there's really no see something, say something anymore. You know, you say socialist and, you know, about the dog walking boyfriend.

39:09I can't imagine Stalin was into that shit. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's so weird, this kind of conflation of extreme sexual practices and socialism. Yeah. Because in the old days, socialists were pretty socially conservative. Right. You know what I mean? But they don't want that. So even by these new people's, even by modern times definition of that, they do this fuckery with words. You guys are comedians. where they go, well, that's not real socialism. You know, oh, that's not, that was different. That wasn't real Marxism. The good Marxism, and you're like, that's all they do is they run with words all the time.

39:48And so the way they see it is like, well, no, this is breaking down the current system for our version of socialism. And I think what we need to do as people, and I remember just saying this when we used to have a lot of conversations about trans, is just go, can we accept this is weird? Right. This is just weird. You dressing up in leather, wearing a gimp mask. Pretty funny. It's pretty funny. It's pretty funny, number one. And taking your boyfriend for a walk dressed as a Pyrex dog or whatever it is. Can we just accept that's weird? Right. I'm with you. They would go, no. Why is it weird? And you go, oh, my God.

40:26You know it's weird. Yeah, yeah. I find it fascinating, too. Because if someone would put a bird cage on their head and just wear a bird cage around on their head. And then every time they go into the store, be like, can you believe the way everyone looked at me? It's like, well, you're doing something different than what the group is. That's all it is. So like whenever people want to go off on these white privilege or any of the things, it's like a lot of times the things you're summarizing as white privilege are just majority privilege. If I'm in Compton and I go to a McDonald's and I'm the only white guy within seven miles, they're probably going to look at me.

41:02They're just trying to figure out what I'm doing there? I got my gay sweater on. I'm a white guy. I'm a clean cut. They're not staring at me because they're bigoted towards white people or they don't want me in their restaurant. They're just going, that's different than the most. What's he doing here? Why? What's he popping around about? Was he here to do taxes for us? Like, why is this white guy here? And so, so many things like that happen where it's, it's just a majority. And then they react like, can you believe it? they're staring at us because we're gay guys and you're like no they're not you're just doing something different than the most and that's what this trans whole thing is is they like you're very clearly a male biologically and you're allowed to dress like a woman because you're a grown-up we'll let you dress however you'd like but let's not pretend that it's not unusual when you're doing something different than what the group is doing yeah and that's all it is we look we go okay yeah we're clocking it you know this is different than what else is going on you know we had a comedian on the show called Steve Hughes, a brilliant Aussie, so funny, Steve, brilliant comedian.

42:04And he made the point that, you know, he sees lots of people now like with a mohawk and he's an older dude. He's in his mid fifties. And he's like, look, when I was growing up, if you had a mohawk, that meant you were saying thank you to society. I don't want to be accepted. I don't want a job in your bank. I'm a rebel. I'm on the outside. That's my choice. I'm punk. Yeah. Like now, you get a mohawk, you wear a swastika patch on your arm, and you walk around with your nipples pierced. Everyone can see it. You're like, why can't I get a job at Goldman Sachs? Exactly. Yeah, no, you're nailing it.

42:39That's so true. And they're going, can you believe the way everyone's looking at me? Yeah. Yeah, that was supposed to be the motivation. Yeah. Right. I love that.

42:46Francis Foster:That's so funny. Do you think this is changing the culture? Do you think we've probably, you know, everyone talks about peak work. Do you think we've gone past that now? we're on the way down certainly in in American comedy it feels like you know I mean you go to Austin you watch some shows there like there's at least two retards and a faggot and a whatever you know it is well it kind of is because you almost go well maybe this is an overswing in the other direction I was uh this observation is actually hacked now because I said it years ago and now I've heard 20 people say my own sentiment back to me but like I've I was kind of like one of the comedians early on being like, let's just say what we think, you know, like, let's not to be afraid of it.

43:28Like, if it's funny, like, work it out. And if it isn't funny, you know, you're just trying something. But like, we should be able to say whatever words and whatever thoughts we think about the subject. And then Austin really took that, you know, like, like, they were like, yeah, but then you go to like the open mic and the guy's like, these faggot retard. And I was like, not like that. We meant say whatever, but not like that or not, not, not so recklessly. So But I do think that I think it's I think it's swinging back. I don't think anything can go too absurd. So it's like I think we have hit peak woke and it's going down.

44:03But I do think it might be swinging back a little bit like with the Charlie Kirk. Whenever there's like an issue, I feel like it kind of swings a little bit back and forth. Yeah.

44:11Francis Foster:Well, it's an interesting point, isn't it? Because like you say, I think what we always thought is like you find a happy medium between, you know, saying things that are controversial, but doing it in a way that's not actually hateful. Sure. And it can feel a little bit now, like you talked about earlier online, but also sometimes elsewhere, that like the overswing in other directions also happen. Yeah. It's just, it's kind of an extreme moment, isn't it? It is. And I also, it's fascinating to me that you don't do standup anymore. Why is that? I find that very fascinating because I think that comedy, we talked about a little bit before we started recording that, comedy is such a great way to have people hear you.

44:52So it's like, you know, when I'm on Fox News, there's nobody turning on Gutfeld to be persuaded. There's nobody, you know, when I did, I campaigned for Trump in this last election and just did comedy, basically, at these, like, things. And I actually would do a joke where I'd go, how many of you guys are undecided voters? And it would just be quiet. My work here is done. And I imagine that to be true, even though I wasn't at a Kamala Harris rally. But at there, I would imagine also there was nobody that was undecided. Whereas with stand-up, it's a room full of people and very often people who don't agree with anything, I think.

45:35But comedy is a great mask to get into their hearts and brains and say something. Especially if it's funny. If it's funny, they go, why am I laughing at that? Did I find some truth in that? or did it just hit my ears as shocking? Or why, they might have to ask themselves, like, why am I feeling that way about that guy's comedy? Or why am I laughing about that guy's comedy? Because sometimes when they get pissed off and they go home, they also have to explain that to themselves or who they came with. Like, why did that bother me so much? And it's like, can I inspire those conversations or those thoughts?

46:05And stand-up is such a great cheat code into that.

46:09Francis Foster:Yeah, well, I would say humor is a great cheat code into that. So that's why when I'm writing satirical columns on my sub stack or whatever, or talking, like, I can still be funny. Sure. But I guess all that happened for me really was during the pandemic, this took off and you also couldn't do standup. Right. So after like two years of that, I just was like, I'm really not that interested to, you know, going back to the comedy circuit. Sure. While this has taken off and taken all of my time. I'm not sure. But humor, I think your point is, I can't remember, I think it was Oscar Wilde who said, if you want to tell the truth, people the truth, make them laugh.

46:44Francis Foster:Otherwise they'll kill you. I love that. And that's kind of like, I think humor is a superpower. Well, Rumi used to start with jokes. So he would tell a joke and his goal was because it opens up a different type of listening. So like, you know, with a song, we can probably have a conversation while someone's playing something beautiful and it's not going to affect the quality of the environment. But with poetry, you need to listen. And with a joke, you damn sure need to listen because if you even miss one word, you're not going to get the joke. And so he would always start with a joke, which also is a great icebreaker, and then drop some wisdom on you.

47:20And so I think that comedy or jokes are so important, but I love it to be able to get in front of people who would otherwise just write me off as a straight, white, conservative guy. And I don't know why I asked you that, but I was just...

47:33Francis Foster:No, no, no. It's an interesting conversation. I don't know if you've seen any speeches. I've done, but whenever I do a speech, I totally take that on board because the way I think about it is humor is basically every time you do a joke that makes people laugh, if you're talking, you're buying 10 seconds of their attention. They're like, oh, maybe I'll listen to the next 10 seconds. And then there's another punchline. Oh, maybe I'll listen for 15. And by the time you get to the end of a 10 minute speech, you can actually say a minute's worth of actual opinion. Sure. And they'll go, oh, that's interesting.

48:02Francis Foster:Yeah. Well, and also when you're writing a joke, as opposed, I've never written a column or anything or an article, but when I'm ranting on my podcast, which I guess would be comparable to a rant or an article, it's all my opinions. And so I find myself not trying to be as reasonable. Whereas with a joke, I'll often go like, well, what's the other side of this? And I'll try to find a thing. And so I'm always doing that with my jokes is like, I don't think I'm being harsh on gay people. I'm just being honest and I'm gonna get down to the bottom of this and then I'll always like uh I'm trying to think of a good example of that in my act well I guess when I talk about women like like it's all for women like everything we do is for women and I tell them that but they in exchange they should be pretty happy about that why are you being so hard on us if it's also all for you so it's like I'll give but I also I expect like a little bit of like take on it you know so I try to do that and then I find that very fun in stand-up to do and it's the you mentioned everything's political now you do a lot of material about men and women, dating, which is really funny.

49:07Francis Foster:Thanks. Do you think that's become political as well? Yes. It has. Yeah, I think for sure. Really? Yeah, because women have considered themselves to be like some sort of group. You know, just all women somehow are on the same team, which I've never experienced. No. But for somehow in their brain, they will go, women aren't like that. You know, they're very defensive about their tribe of being women. And so, you know, you can't even say a thing sometimes. Like, I could say something as simple as women hate video games. And that triggers them. Like, not all women. And you're like, geez, why would you feel so passionate about this?

49:45Do you know any gals that play video games? There's like one for every 9 million guys that does. But even that somehow is some sort of statement to them. And I think it's this never-ending diet. They've been fed of rights and privileges and patriarchy and all these things. I don't know if it's the universities or if it's just modern times or what it is, but they've been fed all this stuff and they're falling in line with it.

50:12Francis Foster:What's interesting is that actually, well, obviously, but there is quite a lot of variability within how women think about things, even politically. Like married women with kids do not vote the same way as unmarried young women in big cities. Correct. Like, those are two very different groups of people that beyond their vaginas really don't have that much in common. Yeah, no, 100%. You know? But there is that sort of group tribal mentality with it, nonetheless. Which makes no sense. I mean, I never thought I would see millions of women in the street passionate about killing their offspring. It's almost like it's gotten to the point where they're suggesting that abortion is good.

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52:54Right. And we can't. People literally are going, no, I think this is my, like they almost talk about it in a different way than the reality of it is.

53:03Francis Foster:Well, you said it just now, didn't you? It's about rights. Rights have become this like sacred thing. So we no longer think about, well, what is it a right to do? Like your right to take a dump, I respect it, but I'm not going to celebrate the act. Absolutely. Right? Yeah.

53:23Francis Foster:Sh**ophobia, whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. Do you see what I'm saying? Yes. We've fetishized this idea of rights so much now that I think that's where it's come from. So they're not even thinking about what it is that they are promoting. And also it's kind of sticking it to the man as well, I think. I agree 100%. It's funny you said that because I think about it with, maybe this is another thing we were talking about earlier about how we got here, is that the overcorrection or the idea of like, there's nothing good about being a homeless man, but we feel so much sadness that someone would be in that position that we've now championed them almost as an underdog.

54:05Now we're almost like rooting for them because they're a homeless person. And you're like, well, you know, you shouldn't celebrate it like you were just saying. Same with being like a single mom. We treat single moms very good because it's hard to be a single mom. And it's an unfortunate position to find yourself in. And it's expensive and difficult and time consuming. But it shouldn't be the goal. You shouldn't go, good for you, you're a single mom. Like that shouldn't be the goal. We're just saying if you find yourself in that position, we feel a certain way towards you and we'll give you, you know, you deserve your credit for being in that position.

54:39And so like, I think that all gets lost.

54:41Francis Foster:Right. It's like, you know, if you get cancer, we feel bad for you, but we don't go. right yeah let's celebrate this because it's not good right i'm not comparing single moms to cancer i think that might be going a bit far but you know what i mean it's like it is not a good outcome and statistically the evidence is very clear on that yeah what happens to kids particularly who grow up now there are some amazing single moms but would if you speak to them would they have chosen to be in that position in ideal environment no most of them not yeah and also yeah like it's hard to explain that to people the way I'm at least thinking about it.

55:17It's hard to articulate it. There's nothing wrong with being a single mom. You should even know that that's not the goal. And it is your right to terminate a pregnancy. But you should know that that's not a good thing. That's not the position you should want to be in to have to make that decision. So it's all tricky. You know, when I was teaching I never met a kid who was like you know what, I'm glad I don't have a dad. Right. Yeah, no, that's not a sentence anyone should say But they don't say Yeah, they don't say it That's the point And I just think it's like We want all this stuff We just don't want any responsibility with it We want to eat the fries without getting fat Yep That does sound pretty good It sounds amazing We want freedom, but we don't want war We want to be safe, but we don't want guns Yeah, like, no, 100 % Yeah, and that's kind of how we now live, where we're just like, you know, I'm anti-war.

56:15And you go, like, everyone's anti-war. Well, there's a few people who are not anti-war. But you're like, dude, most people are anti-war. But the reality is, if you want peace, there are times where you're going to have to go to war. Unfortunately. You can't be anti-war if there's Adolf Hitler going, jawohl, we go! You know, there comes a point where you've got to fight. Right. And I don't think people really understand that. I think we've just got so used to being comfortable, to being safe, that this idea that you might have to protect it or do something unpleasant or even acknowledge that if you do something, there's going to be a tradeoff to it.

56:52We can't live in that world anymore. I know. I wish everyone could understand that and hear that. It's like, what's so good about being safe? like like what like like in what in your life has ever been gained by by a safe space or by not having like a challenge or not like working hard or not like everything that is good had that balance of being like difficult or being like the worst thing I ever went through or like even having a baby like a pregnancy is uncomfortable and it's you feel gross and it takes nine months which is a long time and it's painful and even the birthing process is like the most painful thing in the world but you get a baby at the end that's the kind of the point is that like everything has difficulties to it I don't know what these young people are very obsessed with like being safe and everyone's feelings and everyone accommodated it's like yeah it's not really how it works and you shouldn't want it you shouldn't want that but it's kind of like lying in bed all day and you go I'm comfortable and you go well yeah you are comfortable but a you're not going to do anything and B you're going to get fat and C your muscles are going to rot away.

57:56And it's not that great after a few hours. Yeah. So, and I think that the more you become accepting of discomfort and go, you know what? Life is about being uncomfortable. And if you actually want to achieve anything, most of the time, it's not going to be comfortable. You see a hot girl in a coffee shop. You're like, Oh, I, maybe I'll go and talk to her. That's going to be

58:16Francis Foster:pretty uncomfortable yeah but you know especially for her yeah exactly but that nervousness is something you overcome yeah and that's why it's rewarding like when i see like this is a strange thing but like when i see like a beautiful woman i'm like i'd have no feeling about it i don't even want to do anything about it like i like i go i don't feel nothing you know like you need that nervousness you need that like should i i might get rejected like that that's the balance of all of it yeah and you know what's worse is walking away because it feels good in the moment but a couple of hours later you're like yeah she was she looks great she was there writing in her that was my chance that was my chance maybe that was that was the one right missed your window yeah but you never know because you walked away yeah and that's the same with everything in life like you've got this great new joke maybe you try it but maybe you'll lose the room yeah maybe you'll be like hey, maybe your Nazi Muslim stuff isn't the thing for the vegan poetry cafe in Seattle.

59:14Brooklyn didn't like it.

59:16Francis Foster:But you'll never know. Speaking of women, changing subjects, you live in LA. Yes, sir. Lots of beautiful women, but they all look about half their actual age nowadays. Is this just a me thing or is this real? Everyone seems to have got some kind of injection of some kind. I don't know if it's the injections, but I think we're aging better as people. Oh, you think it's just that? Yeah, I mean, maybe. I don't know. Do you guys find that to be true? Oh, man. Have you ever seen, oh, this is probably the wrong reference to you, but soccer players in the 1970s, they're like 26. Yeah, but they look old as hell.

59:49Yeah, they look in their 50s. My dad, I found a photo of my dad. In the photo, we clocked that he was like 34 years old. And he looked way older than me now, and I'm 42. And I was just like, what? And I was like, well, he had three kids by that age, and he had like my mom to deal with, and he was stressed out of his mind working all the time. but I think I was just actually having this conversation with someone last night is that like I think vanity's gone a long ways yeah but in but for in good in a good way right like even you guys are my age you look young to me like I'm sure if we're at a college you know we'd all be considered old guys to them yeah but we definitely look better than the men that were our age like 100 years ago oh dude yeah like it's insane like we all have a full head of hair we you know we We don't look, I don't know how to explain it, but I think it's vanity is what I think it is.

1:00:37We've spent all of our, all the generations have spent so much time on moisturizer, creams, and healthy food and guiltiness about things. So I don't know what, I chalk it up to vanity. Right.

1:00:49Francis Foster:Well, and also we do live in a society that is more youth conscious than I think it ever was. I think if you were a politician in the mid 40s, 30s of the last century, having gravitas and status and kind of that comes with age the wise old head would that would have been super valued yeah whereas you know i mean biden and trump are kind of an exception to what i'm about to say but we but but mostly we do think you know we need change we need young blood we need someone who's fresh you know i remember when obama first came in oh my god he was so exciting so cool charming and right right he was the first like superstar president right like i was the first president i ever saw first politician i ever saw on espn like explaining his ncaa bracket and i was like this feels strange because i like to picture the president just at a desk with stacks of paper and he's pulling out his hair and he's trying like that's what i picture politicians are always doing and then i saw that and i was like i guess he has time to like spin a basketball on his finger and like talk to MTV.

1:01:55Like I remember like that was like the first thing.

1:01:57Francis Foster:Yeah. Yeah. He was, he also had the very best answer to the question. No one asked politicians anymore in this country, but it was like the defining questions. Have you ever smoked marijuana? Oh yeah. And, and the answer was, you know, all the Republicans would be like, yeah, yeah, I did, but I didn't inhale. Right. Clinton's answer. Yeah. Well, and Clinton, basically all of them. And then they went to Obama. They went, did you inhale? And he went, yeah, that was the point. That's great. It's so funny. Yeah. You know. Which I think we're witnessing with Trump. Yeah. Trump, what everyone didn't like about Trump or what everyone criticized about Trump was like how wild he was with his language and sentences and opinions and stuff.

1:02:37But they claim they hate that. Now they're all doing it. Look at AOC's Twitter. Look at like, look at the way Elizabeth Warren now talks when she's talking to the press. Like they all hate him for it, but they're doing it. They're doing the exact same thing. So, like, if they would have stuck to their guns and just, like, been like, no, we're going to keep this political kind of thing, I would give them the I would allow them to hate Donald Trump. But it seems like they're very inspired by his antics and the way he dogs. You know, what's so smart about Trump is the fact that he's funny. And because he's funny, he makes a joke and no one cares what happens afterwards.

1:03:15Right. Because we live in the social media age. He's got the clip. And the people at MSNBC, they've got the clip. They can put it on their Twitter. It'll go viral. So I'll give you an example. He was asked about, I think he was on Air Force One, and the journalist went to him, what do you think about Zoran Mamdani? People say that he's the Trump of the left. And he went, you know, I'm much better looking than Zoran. And then they all laughed. That's funny, yeah. And then that's all the people remember. Right. Boom, and it went viral. Yeah. It's so powerful, and it's so smart. It's a great strategy for sure.

1:03:47It's almost like the art of war. He knows exactly how to wiggle these things. I don't know if I like that Trump's funny. He's inarguably funny. Oh yeah, hilarious. I don't know if I want him to be. I like him when he's just saying things he thinks. And I also like him that he's funny. But I don't know if it's good. I don't know if it's a good thing. Because it just drives all the people that don't like him insane. And they act insane. Like they can't process it. and so for me it's like I don't know if I need my president to be funny like I I I don't want my doctor to be funny you know like I want my comedians to be funny I don't mind if actors are funny or these other people but like I don't know if if it's good for us or not because when Trump says a funny thing like that my crazy neighbor just loses his mind do you hear what he said he's talking about he's better looking like and so I don't know if it's it's very productive.

1:04:44Francis Foster:Yeah. It sort of panders to your base, but it's polarizing. It is polarizing. It's polarizing. And I'm in a constant mindset of like, how can we bridge the gap? Right. I don't agree with a ton of the left's policies, but I still see them as Americans. I still see them as like, I like to think of us as fellow men, you know, like I would like to get along with all the people. I would hope someone would say, the person I wanted to win didn't, but I hope that they have what's best in mind for America. That's what I like to think. And that's my goal, at least. That's so interesting. I was in Australia, I was doing a small tour of Australia a couple of years back, I think.

1:05:27Francis Foster:And I was at a dinner where there was a bunch of politicians left and right. And one of them, the guy who was hosting of a good friend of mine. He stood up and he went, you know, I've always known that the other party will get elected at some point and I want them to be the best possible government for Australia. And I was like, oh my God, I haven't heard this for like 20 years. Yeah, I think that's good. Of course. Yeah. Well, because like, yeah, I mean, it's simple. Like, in like any sport, you might not like your captain, but like, at least he's, we're all trying to win. You know, we're all trying to, we should have the same goal.

1:06:01Right. Like, nobody wants to see like I don't like when people post like liberal tears or like any of those kind of things and I think that's kind of what Trump channels yeah and I am a Trump guy I like Donald Trump I just think you know if I'm going to comment on his imperfections I don't think the trolling is a good idea even though it is funny yeah I like it the bad part of me likes it well that's a very good

1:06:23Francis Foster:point because I think like as in just an outside observer you hear people talking less and less about the fact that we're all American and much more about the other side. Yeah. And at the end of the day, this is a country of people who have things in common. Yeah. Like left-wing Americans, right-wing Americans are more similar than people in other countries. Yeah, 100%. With similar political views to that particular thing. Do you know what I mean? Like even left-wing Americans are still like incredibly aspirational. We were talking about this before we started, like your time in Britain on the Isle of Man?

1:06:59Francis Foster:Isle of Wight. Isle of Wight, right? Like the same American dream thing is not going on in the Isle of Wight. Yeah, not at all, no. I've never felt more American than when I was in the Isle of Wight. We would shoot like a scene and like, we were all aliens. It's kind of like the project that we were shooting was the idea of like, it's kind of like Star Wars if it was a comedy. So like modern times is like, now there's creatures from all these planets that are all like on all the planets kind of diversifying and they'd be like all right you're gonna come into this bar and they're like uh just you know do something just just wing it for this take like let's you're a comedian just do something funny so i'm going to this bar with all these aliens and stuff and i i'm an alien also and i figure that he's drunk and they've booked me to be this like louder you know this loud uh you know american-ish kind of alien so i come in i just wing it i was like yeah there's so much pussy here and i just watched like everyone be like the is this guy doing and i was like that'd be like a real normal thing for like an american bro to say you know and i watched all the directors that have her there on their heads like can you believe what he just said like on the thing i i felt like at least the little experience i had of the week in the isle of white i was like i was just such a big loud ass you know but you also you did ask some british people what their dreams were yeah Which, that's a sketch in itself, man.

1:08:22Francis Foster:Oh, my God. Yeah, they didn't know what to do with that question. I was like, so, like, what are you guys? And they were just literally like, we have a family and we live here. This is kind of the thing. And I was like, all right, sorry to ask, you know. Yeah. But the point that you were making about the liberal tears is so profound. Because if you truly love your country, you want a good, strong left-wing opposition. Yeah. Because they're going to hold the right to account. 100%. You want the Democrats, you want a kind of Obama-like figure who the moment Trump takes a misstep, he is on him and he's going, hey, that's wrong.

1:09:00What you're doing here is not cool for A, B, C, D, and E reasons. Sort this out. Right. Because if you don't have that, then the people, because it's human nature, they're going to be like, hey, I got away with this. I can get away with this. Absolutely. I can get away with that. Yeah. I think also, too, I know this is like a kind of overlapping grand scheme kind of idea, but I think one of the biggest problems that we're having in our country is that people are treating their politics like religion. And so all these people, they've all abandoned religion. Like, it's so trendy to say, I'm not religious and I hate Christians or blah, blah, blah.

1:09:35Unless the religion is outside of America, then it's beautiful because it's a different race, you know. But they hate any kind of domestic religion. They hate any sort of religious behavior. They scoff at church. They publicly criticize Christianity. Yet they act out their politics as religious zealots. The behavior they claim they hate, they do for their politics. So they'll say, oh, I don't even talk to my parents anymore. I can't believe they think like that. Or anyone that would vote for him is, I couldn't do it. I would never date someone. that like they're they're they're acting it out and i think that's the biggest problem is you should be interacting with with the other side like you should be having you should have friends that have all different thoughts and ideas and in my opinion that's the biggest problem with what we're going through it's completely true i remember talking to this comedian and he said to me you know what i don't have any friends that i disagree with and i'm like well then you're a child that's a problem yeah you're a child because what that means is you can't bear one moment of discomfort of somebody going, hang on, you know, this thing you said is actually not true.

1:10:40Right. And how not fun must that be? Yeah. Yeah. That must be terrible. So just no one disagrees with you at all, ever. Like, that's insane that it like, like a day in that life would be pretty boring.

1:10:52Francis Foster:Well, man, it's been great having you on. Really enjoyed this. Your stuff is awesome. I hope people check you out. I'm sure they will. We're going to go to Substack and ask you questions from our audience in a second. But before we do, last question is always saying, what's the one thing we're not talking about as a society that we really should be? One thing we're not talking about that we should be talking about as a society that we should be. Maybe, I mean, kind of like overlapping what we were just talking about is just like getting along. Like, what do you really want? Like, what's the goal?

1:11:21You know, like, why do you want to view people as other? I think we live in such a debate culture that nobody's having conversations where they can just go, oh, that's an interesting perspective, or oh, I agree with that. Now let's chew on that. They want to win. There's, there's the goal is to win the argument, not, not, not come to a nice understanding. They're trying to defeat each other. And I think that we should be talking about, uh, you know, we should be, we should be trying to get along is what I think.

1:11:47Francis Foster:All right. Head on over to triggerpod.co.uk where we ask Jeff your questions. I think it's okay to tell any joke, no matter what the setup subject or how offensive it is. if it's funny. The risk of falling out of a friend or an audience over it is on the teller. Do you agree?