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25:32Francis Foster:Yeah. And moving to geopolitics a little bit. Do you have a clear understanding of what the Americans are doing, what their posture is towards the world? And obviously that will affect Canada as well. Are you now, do you want to talk about the tariff policy or the recent actions in Iran and Venezuela? What would you like to address? Here's what I'm trying to get into, right? And we can talk about all of those things, and I think we should. I think a lot of people thought that Trump 2.0 would be a little bit like Trump 1.0. And suddenly, you know, he's talking about Canada becoming a state of the United States.

26:08Francis Foster:He's talking about invading Greenland. And he's taking real action. And some of it I am a big fan of. You know, get rid of Maduro. Great. You know, Iran is more difficult. We can talk about the pluses and minuses. But what I think is happening is there is a clear different perspective that they have. They've shifted their entire attitude towards geopolitics, the world, and they're taking a totally different approach. Do you understand the rationale and the logic behind that? Do you see what they're trying to do? Here's what I think is happening. For, you know, 50 years, the United States made a calculation that they could trade freely with China and build a friendship with that rising power.

26:56And they blinked, and all of a sudden, they had a very powerful rival. They looked around and saw that their entire industrial base had been hollowed out, whole towns had been emptied. and they had become increasingly dependent on a country that was at best a serious rival and at worst a serious threat. And they decided that they were going to assert dominance in order to counter that rivalrous threat. Some of that thinking was justified. Some of it has since been mistargeted. Canada, for example, despite all of the criticisms you might have made about public policy decisions, Canada is not the problem.

27:39And so I think that targeting Canada is a mistake and a distraction. And Canada is actually part of the solution because we have the resources, the minerals, and the geography to help make the entire continent safer. And that would be the better way to go. But there's no doubt that the United States does not want satellites of Beijing in Latin America in particular, as we saw with the decision to oust Maduro and with the aggressive economic approach against Cuba. and as I think we're seeing with Iran. They've made the decision that they're not going to have these countries that are ultimately in the China sphere of power encroaching on America's security or sovereignty.

28:35And I believe that that is one of the reasons for the approach that the U.S. is taking. So we have to decide as Canadians how we fit into that. And my view is that we have the ability to make the North American continent a lot safer and more secure and more prosperous for all the countries. If we take advantage of the leverage that we have, resources, geography, etc. If we massively rebuild up our military to protect the Arctic, then we will have a lot more leverage to get what we want, which again is unbridled, tariff-free access to the most lucrative market in the world, that being the U.S.

29:15Francis Foster:And do you worry that what is happening in Iran now, I mean, I don't, I'm someone who's, you know, happy to see intervention when I think it's good, but I also very, very, you know, I grew up in the era of Iraq and Afghanistan. We both did, right? I imagine you did too. And those were not things, I think, objectively speaking, that led to positive outcomes that everybody would want. Are you worried that perhaps, you know, President Trump's felt like he's on a roll and he can just keep going and sometimes he's going to go too far and there will be a lot of drawbacks to the policies he's pursuing?

29:53Look, it's easier to predict the past than the future, but I don't see how it could be a bad thing for the world to remove Khomeini and the theocratic dictatorship that dominated Iran.

30:05Francis Foster:Isn't that what we said about Gaddafi and Saddam and all these other people? I don't see how it's... And I was like, yeah, they're bad people, but what comes after is my question. I don't see what comes after. Do you? Well, the difference... There's a couple of differences. One, Iran has not been just sitting back and watching the world go by. Iran was responsible for the attacks of October 7th. It was funding and directing Hamas, Hezbollah, the Yemeni terrorists before the Assad regime fell. It was responsible for that. It was actively threatening not just Israel but the Arab powers in the region and was developing a nuclear program for the express purpose of targeting Western allies, not just Israel, by the way, which would be bad enough, but the United States of America.

30:54It was the single biggest state sponsor of terror in the world. And by the way, they killed over 100 Canadians when they fired a missile at flight PS752. And it was a civilian aircraft. So this is a hostile enemy regime. And so, you know, it's not just that somebody showed up at the UN and made allegations that they had weapons of mass destruction. Everything I've just said is undisputed, by the way, unlike the weapons of mass destruction allegation in Iraq. And then who would govern? Well, I think what they need to do is find a way to get to elections. Because I think the people of Iran could choose a government.

31:30And I think it will be a very Western-friendly government. Because the population there is actually very Western-friendly. The government was completely out of touch with the population. And so they need to get to elections. That's the outcome.

31:44Francis Foster:Are we certain about this? I'd love it for it to be true. I honestly don't know. Are we certain that the population is pro-Western? We have an enormous Iranian expat population in Canada. And they are very pro-Western and against theocracy. So I'm confident that we'd have a better future if it were directed by the Iranian people than by the Ayatollah and the religious theocracy that was running the place before. And is your sense that this more geopolitically interventionist policy will continue? Is Cuba going to be next? Are we going to see more things like this, do you think? I don't know. I don't know.

32:22I don't know the answer. Your wife is nodding over there. My wife is hoping so. She's from Venezuela and her family was obviously thrilled to see Maduro go. And this is actually what's so funny is to watch these woke progressives pulling their hair out on the street, claiming that they're siding with Iranians and Venezuelans by opposing the removal of their dictators. And the people, both the Iranian people and the Venezuelan people were thrilled to see these dictators ousted. And my wife's family, I can attest to that. Oh, look, absolutely. Everyone in my room. Go on, go on. Everyone who watches the show.

33:01And if it's making my wife happy, then it can't be bad.

33:04Francis Foster:The joke here is Francis says his family is from Venezuela every single show. It's the number one liked comment on our show every time. Yeah. Are you Venezuelan? Yeah, yeah. I know I don't look it. Yes. Oh, God. We should have brought my wife on the show then. Yeah, half Venezuelan. The other half is Irish, so that's why I've got that. Oh, good. Well, I've got a lot of Irish blood. There's only two types of people, those who are Irish and those who wish they were. That does sound like what an Irishman would say. A mate of mine tries to quit vaping every new year, every time he fails for the same reason.

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34:50Head to tryfume.com slash trig. That's T-R-Y-F-U-M dot com slash trig and use code TRIG to start The Good Habit today. That being the case, I think we can acknowledge that what happened in Venezuela is very, very different to what is happening in Iran. And what people never really address is that when you get an authoritarian government coming to power, as we saw with Venezuela and then before that, Iran, what they do is they put in and they establish autocratic methods of control. Right. So in Venezuela, you get the colectivos. In Iran, you get the Islamic Republican Guard numbering, I was reading, about 150 ,000 people.

35:35It's not just as easy as removing the Ayatollah. What do you do with the Republican Guard? They're not going to lay down their arms. This is a very, very serious problem. The IRGC is the single biggest terrorist organization in the world, and then it has a whole series of spawns that it controls remotely. So you're absolutely right. The IRGC, I believe, will have to be dismantled, and they will have to find a new way to set up a security apparatus that reflects a hopefully democratically elected government. But you're quite right. The IRGC will be a very big problem, and they need to be destroyed.

36:15We only, frankly, we should have banned them a long time ago in Canada. They are active in Canada. They have something like 700 agents on the ground. So it's a drop. What do you mean they're active in Canada? According to intelligence, they have 700 agents on the ground in Canada. They have, former IRGC members have moved to Canada and taken the plunder with them so that they can harass the Persian and Jewish populations in our country. some of the insane anti-Semitic riots and attacks that we saw against synagogues etc. I believe in Canada were actually instigated by IRGC by inflaming the population and getting people to carry out these these terrible rampages in our streets.

37:07So this is a terrible organization that is not just a threat to the Iranian people, but is active around the world. And it is hopefully with the ousting of the regime, we can break that organization as well. Look, I want that. And we all want a free Iran, a democratic Iran. The problem comes when you remove the leader, you still have the IRGC, and you think to yourself, well, how are they going to get rid of it? Because Trump said in his speech that this is a chance for the Iranian people to overthrow the regime. And you think to yourself, what you want the Iranian people to go out against 150 ,000 trained military.

37:50I mean, that has a potential to be a bloodbath. Well, it's already a bloodbath. It was a bloodbath before the president and Israel removed the regime. They were slaughtering the population in the street. And they have been doing that now for years. And the population has been rising up and getting crushed, rising up and getting crushed over and over again. So I think what he means now is, well, now the regime that was crushing the population has been removed. The population has to come together and secure a democratic government.

38:25Francis Foster:And coming back to the conversation we were having earlier, and, you know, you were very persuasive, actually, I thought, in articulating the idea that almost all the problems that we often focus on are the product of the concentration of power and assets and wealth in the hands of a small number of people who structure society for that purpose. But there's another dimension culturally, which is the kind of self-denigration that has become very popular in the West and is frankly being taught in our schools and colleges and universities en masse now where young people, young Canadians, young British people are effectively taught a version of their history that inevitably leads to them hating their own country.

39:03Francis Foster:Do you see that happening? And what can you do about it? Well, by the way, I think that's also part of the same phenomenon I described earlier, which is that those who want to have more power, what do you do? You erase history, because then they have a blank slate to write on. You can create something out of nothing. You can say everything, all of the foundations that created our civilization, We've wiped them away. And now I pull out my magic marker and I paint a brand new civilization. Which is, you know, if you look at all the literature about dystopia, whether Huxley or Orwell, it involves eliminating the past.

39:46But the only way to preserve freedom is to anchor it in history. Our history, for example, goes back to a field about an hour from here in Runnymede, the Magna Carta, the great English liberties that we inherited as Canadians. That is an 800-year-old tradition, an imperfect one, one that started off with a very small group securing their freedom by imposing liberty under the law, but then expanded over eight centuries to the imperfect state it is today. But without that 800-year tradition, you don't have freedom. So on the other side are those who want to erase all of that so that they can impose their agenda.

40:30Francis Foster:And my point is we've got two generations at least. I mean, my generation, we're probably similar age, our generation, I remember it started to creep through already. Then you look at the generation below us. So you just, I mean, if they went to university, I don't know if you've ever seen that meme of like the people before and after certain drugs, like before weed, after weed, before hair, and after. And then the last one is before college, after college. And before college, it's a normal person, and after it's, you know, nose piercings and all of that kind of stuff, right? So that's been the effect.

41:01Francis Foster:That is the country, if you ever become prime minister, you will inherit, in which young people have, some young people have been brainwashed into this ideology. I know Jordan's obviously done a lot to try and push back against it. Yes. Great Canadian. Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson. Truly a great Canadian. Yeah, he is a great man. But the fact that he had to is evidence of where your society is. Is that a fair assessment? No. No? I think that our young people today are more conservative, more hardworking, and have more common sense than maybe any generation since the Second World War. Lucky you.

41:36We have the young people in Canada, the ones I meet, they want to start families, own homes, and take responsibility.

41:45Francis Foster:The ones you meet, you're a conservative. No, the ones I meet when I go to a coffee shop and I talk to the barista or I go to a restaurant and talk to the waitress. I'm not talking about a conservative rallies. I'm talking about it on shop floors and in retail outlets across the country where I meet young people and they're the ones being held back. We won, by the way, we won the youth vote. In fact, we have our election body, Elections Canada, runs elections in the high schools. They are mock elections, but all of them participate. Now some people say, oh this is trivial stuff. We're talking about like every high school student.

42:20We won the high school vote. They voted conservative. And this is the the first time that the high schoolers voted differently than their parents in the general election. And it's on election day. So young people today in Canada, I believe, are grounded in a desire to work hard, to unleash their ambitions. And so I'm actually very optimistic about our upcoming generation.

42:45Francis Foster:Well, if I thought that was the case here, I'd also be optimistic, but it's not. It's not. I don't know a lot of British youth. You guys are very lucky if that's the case. I mean, one of the things that we've seen with the UK and Australia and Canada is the guilt of their history. But the guilt is different. For instance, in the UK, it's guilt for empire. In Australia and Canada, it's slightly different because there's the indigenous people and there's a guilt around that in Canada. Can we talk about that a little bit? Because I've found something quite fascinating, actually. Well, OK, so I think that in Canada, what we need to do is focus on what we can actually achieve together.

43:30The Indigenous peoples of Canada can be literally the richest people in the world because the lands on which they live are among the most resource rich. And one thing you will never hear about in the media is the pro-energy, pro-oil and gas Indigenous communities that are very common across Western Canada in particular, but also in the mining communities of Northern Ontario. the previous Liberal government killed a number of natural resource projects as part of the net zero obsession that had overwhelming and near unanimous support of the indigenous communities nearby. I know there was one oil and gas mine, the Tech Frontier mine,$20 billion.

44:13Every single indigenous community around it supported it and the government in Ottawa came in and killed it. So the approach that we have tried to take as conservatives in Canada is to unleash incredible amounts of opportunity for First Nations, allow energy companies to even pay some of their corporate tax obligation to local indigenous communities to help with fighting poverty, training young people, getting them into six-figure jobs in the trades. So that's the approach that I take. And I think it's a positive one. And I think, you know, the traditional indigenous values, I believe, are quite conservative.

44:50of faith in a creator, family, tradition. And I think we can build on those foundations. Because it seems to me the Liberal Party take a very paternalistic approach towards the indigenous people, whilst, on the other hand, not giving them the freedom to actually be able to progress and improve their own communities. Well, the approach has been to block resource projects and then double the size of the bureaucracy for indigenous affairs. So that is not the right approach. We don't need more bureaucrats in the nation's capital. We have too many of those. What we need is more opportunity in the indigenous communities themselves.

45:29Francis Foster:Pierre, one thing that Francis and I have been thinking about a lot, because I think anyone is thinking about a lot at the moment, is I think the world is about to change very dramatically. It's a trivial thing to say in one way, but we went to San Francisco and you walk around like a third of the cars on the road are not driven by humans anymore. or you talk to some of the people in AI, like this thing is happening really fast. Do you have any thoughts on, you know, the impact that that will have on countries like Britain, like Canada? And what do you see coming down the pipe? Look, it's an incredible opportunity.

46:02I think it could massively increase the availability of goods and services at much lower prices if it's allowed to and if monetary inflation doesn't cancel out all the benefits again. But one thing I ask myself is if AI is going to replace a number of different tasks that we do, what kind of meaning will people have in their lives, right? I'm a big believer in Viktor Frankl, incredible psychologist, and his thesis was that people need meaning, even more than they need food and water. They need meaning in their lives to give them happiness. And he tells the story of group therapy session where there was there were two ladies.

46:43One was a very wealthy woman who had married a very rich man and she and she was sitting next to a woman who lived in poverty and had two children. One who died early and the other who was severely disabled. And he said to both of them, what will your what when you're on your deathbed at 80 what will you look back upon your life and say? And the wealthy woman said, well I'll say that I had an easy life with lots of joys and easy, frivolous pleasures, but it all really meant nothing. Whereas the mother who had struggled and fought for her kids said, well, I look back on my life, and though my first child had a short life, it was a beautiful one, and my second child had a disability, I made him into a great person.

47:31and I would look back at my life and say it was an incredible success. So the point being that life is not just a pleasure machine. It's about having meaning. And if machines and robots replace the meaning that we get from doing our work and contributing, then how will we find meaning and purpose? That's something I think about 50 years from now. Some of the predictions about what these AI mechanisms are going to be able to do, what kind of meaning will, how will we get meaning, the meaning that comes from work and contributing.

48:04Francis Foster:I think you're exactly right. Although I think 50 years is extremely optimistic. I think it's happening very quickly. If you watch or listen to Trigonometry regularly, this won't surprise you. The cost of everyday life has crept up to the point where even sensible people are feeling the squeeze. You do the right things. You work, you budget, and somehow the money still doesn't go as far as it used to. Food costs more. Insurance costs more. Everything costs more. And more people than you think are quietly filling the gap with credit cards charging 20 or 30 percent interest. If you're a homeowner and that sounds familiar, there is a better way.

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49:52Francis Foster:right in other words it has a survival instinct wow and if something has a survival survival instinct that means by definition its primary interest is not human beings its primary interest is survival there is an existential risk to humanity might be very small but is that something you've thought about at all i hope more politicians do think about this listen i uh i've never been blackmailed by ai so now i haven't talked about that well get ready it's coming thanks for the warning um yeah look uh these are these are the kinds of things we have to think about uh and what happens if if and when they take a life of their own but uh i don't have the ability to extrapolate that far into the future but you've given me something to think about fair enough no it's just a new thing but i think it's going to happen so much faster than people think.

50:45Francis Foster:And I think, I hope politicians start to think about it a little bit more. Because one of the challenges I think politicians face, and we saw that with Zuckerberg when he was being interrogated by US politicians, is that you were listening to the US politicians interrogate Zuckerberg and you go, oh, you don't understand tech. And the concern for a lot of people is, is the knowledge is concentrated in the hands of a very small amount of the population. And really, we need politicians who are across this just as much as the tech industry, if not more, really. I agree. I agree. Because otherwise, it's a black box for all but those who control it.

51:28And so we have to diffuse the knowledge and we have to know more about what it's going to do.

51:33Francis Foster:Yeah, well, you will need to. But coming back to this central theme of our conversation, which I think you've articulated, as I say, very powerfully. How do you wrestle control back from the people who've established this gigantic bureaucracy, who have all the corporate structures that benefit them? How do you actually get to the point where that is no longer the case, and your country, our country, is no longer about serving the interests of a very small group of people at the top? Well, you have to activate everybody else. You have to provide hope to everyone else that life can be so much better than it is right now for them.

52:08and that's why we've focused in our party in the last several months particularly on a hopeful message because we don't want people to become despondent and detached from the political process. You know, if they don't show up, then they will be governed only by those who do. So how do I, so I've asked myself, how do I go and get the mill worker in Thunder Bay to become politically active so that he can own a home and double his pay and, you know, continue to enjoy his hunting rifles and his pickup truck and the things that make his life great. That's one of the political challenges for those of us who are trying to give power back to the people is to get the people engaged to take it.

52:48But isn't also the challenge going to be that you've got to change a culture? Because I think it was around 40 % of Canadians are employed in government jobs. And I was talking to a friend of mine. He was saying, look, for a lot of Canadians, that's the dream because you get a cushy government job. You're not going to have to work as hard. And that means, you know, that you've got life on easy street. Now, maybe that's an unfair way of putting it. But I've heard that for more than one person. I don't know if I would say that's true. In Canada today, the problem the problem I see is that people are working extremely hard.

53:24They're running nonstop. But there's so many obstacles in their way there. You know, you're if you're a young person, you want to buy a home. Well, they're not building them. You know, we build fewer homes today than we did in the 1970s. Why is that? Not because we don't have carpenters who want to swing hammers. It's because you can't get a permit to build a home. You've got, go to Western Canada. The people who are unemployed in Western Canada and the trades, it's not because they don't want to work. It's because the government has blocked them from working in the energy sector. So, you know, I don't see the population as being a problem at all in Canada.

53:56I think the problem in most Western countries that are in this challenge is governments. It's not the people.

54:04Francis Foster:I don't know how much you've followed this in other countries, and I wonder if it is an issue in Canada or not. But the point you make about political activation is obviously true. But one of the things that's happened both in Europe, in Britain, and in America is political activation of a very frustrated population, understandably, has spilled over in many instances into anger and resentment and a much more destructive perspective. You see, you know, social media. you know I always talk about how the kind of the caliber of the influence it tells you a lot about the time you're in so you kind of go from Jordan Peterson within like 10 years you go down to Andrew Tate to Nick Fuentes right and in the UK you see that the polarization is creating very angry divisive movements which are understandable in some ways because they're reacting to things that are very unpleasant that you've been describing do you have that problem in canada and do you know if you do what do you know what to do about it what other people should do about it the problem being uh polarization no it's not polarization because if you uh i guess the problem being that the anger that's created by the policies you're describing then becomes a vehicle for people who are not offering the message of hope and positivity that you are but are offering a destructive message a message of hatred against other people etc i i think uh we're in canada we're very blessed that the focus has remained on hope.

55:30And I will, you know, bluntly take some credit for it, because I have been the major opposition to the status quo in the country. And during that time, we have not, you know, our Conservative Party has remained unfractured. We are one party. We haven't fractured into numerous parties. And our focus has been on giving people, driving their political energies towards a hopeful future, rather than just being upset about the status quo. and very simply the antidote to anger is hope because if you say to people yes you're not happy with where you are but this is where we could be and wouldn't this be wonderful wouldn't it be great if you could own a home raise a family chart your own course live a great life launch a business and I've tried to keep people focused on that optimistic forward-looking possibility and I think that is the antidote to the problem you describe yeah and I thought you have

56:22Francis Foster:your apple eating video was illustration of people trying to drag you into the Oh my God, that was strange. When my staff were there witnessing this, no one thought that this was a moment of any kind. Really? No, like we buried it like seven minutes into a 15 minute video that we thought no one was going to watch of me just sort of wandering around talking to people in an orchard. And somehow this thing blew up. So it was when people came to me weeks later and said they had seen a video of me eating an apple, I didn't even remember what they were talking about. but it's funny how social media behaves.

56:56Francis Foster:That was a great moment in internet history. Pierre, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us. We really appreciate it. Thank you. We're going to ask you some questions from our supporters. Sure. Many Canadians have written in with their questions. Sure. Before we do though, the last question we ask all our guests is what's the one thing we're not talking about that we should be as a society, as a culture? Before Pierre answers a final question at the end of the interview, make sure to head over to our sub stack. The link is in the description where you'll be able to see this. What is one thing the world can learn from Canada and what is one political idea you would like see brought to Canada from elsewhere?

57:30What's your stance on the Alberta independence movement and how do you feel about Quebec? One thing we're not talking about, I think, is the biggest cause of economic injustice, which is monetary inflation. I think it has been the single biggest wealth transfer away from the working class. And it has been a phenomenon in all of the Western world, with the possible exception of Switzerland. And it is, you know, we're creating cash at six times the rate that we're building homes. And that is inflating the cost of everything. It's taking from wage earners and savers and concentrating money in the hands of a very small group of insiders.

58:12Francis Foster:And is that why it's happening, you think? It is exactly why it's happening. Yes, it's very simple. You mentioned apples, right? If you have an economy with 10 apples and$10, it's a buck an apple. If you double the number of dollars to 20, but you still only have 10 apples, it's now$2 an apple. No, what I mean is the reason it's happening is that for the same reason you've said everything else, there's a benefit to a small number of people? I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think that it's so, if you're a politician and you want to spend money you don't have, what's the easiest way to do it? Is it to raise everyone's taxes?

58:43Is it go out and say, well, we're going to, you know, politician says they're going to raise the sales tax by three points, or why not just print the money? It has the exact same effect, but no one realizes because it's way too complicated for even people who are extremely intelligent to understand. And so that is the original cause. But then there are all these secondary beneficiaries at the top and then the great masses of victims at the bottom who pay for it. And I think it is the single biggest wealth transfer in modern history. And almost no one notices it because it is a sleight of hand.

59:21It is an optical illusion that is very difficult to detect.

59:24Francis Foster:Well, it's become a lot easier to detect now when countries like the UK and the US are running debt at high levels on their GDP. Do you think that music is going to stop at some point? It has to, because one of two things will happen. Either they'll start printing and cause inflation crises that provoke enormous upheaval, or if they don't print, then their bond yields will start to rise to points that they can't actually make their payments. One of those two things is going to happen if they don't get their spending under control. So you have an inflationary crisis or you have a fiscal crisis.

59:56Francis Foster:Exactly. One of the two. And they've chosen inflation over a fiscal crisis now. And that is why the money printing has been so rampant. The deficits are enormous. And the only way to deal with them, the only easy way for politicians to deal with them is to print money and rob people's buying power. But eventually people will get fed up and they won't be able to do that. And the music will stop. So how do you, if you become prime minister, how do you actually deal with this? because if you've got an economy and a society that's basically got used to the fact that you print money that you don't have to spend on things you can't afford, you are then, you know, evil dad who comes in and says, no, we can't spend money on this.

1:00:36Francis Foster:No more candy for you. No more this for you. You're going to be there for one term. Well, the people aren't getting this so-called candy. They're the ones paying for it, right? As Jefferson said, the government is taking from the the mouth of labour, the bread it is earned. The people are paying the price. This is why people can't eat food, can't eat beef anymore. That's why you used to be able to own a house and pay off a mortgage in seven years on a single income. A welder could buy a house, raise four kids, and pay off his mortgage in seven years. And now a lawyer and an accountant can't buy a house in 20 years, even get the down payment.

1:01:17So there's no candy for the people. It's only been a candy for a small group at the top. And how do you stop it? You need to shrink the size and cost of government so that there's no longer a need to print money. That means cutting bureaucracy, consultants, corporate welfare, handouts to phony refugees, foreign aid. We have to cut all those things. And yes, it will take backbone to do it, but I have that backbone.

1:01:38Francis Foster:Follow us to triggerpod.co.uk where we ask Pierre your questions. Trump's running commentary obviously angered a lot of Canadians. How much anti-American What American sentiment do you think will subside when he goes? And how much is locked in until the people who were alive when it happened died?