Trump is the Most Corrupt President in History - Ann Coulter

21:26And the other one is the Epstein stuff. And again, And some of the cultists are coming up with an excuse. The thing I'd say about the MAGA base opposing the Iraq or Iran attack, and I was one of them, it actually ended up not being so bad. And I think part of the reason I loved Trump's speech after he said, it's over. We have peace with Iran now. We're done. We just wanted to destroy the nuclear facilities. Can't run the experiment twice. But I think if he hadn't gotten the pushback from the MAGA base, we might have troops and ships over there right now. And it might not. Yes. Well, that's the way it's always gone.

22:04Not under Trump. He's never put troops anywhere, right? When he destroyed ISIS, he just bombed them and left it there, right? Yes. So I think that's the difference. But we do have troops all over the entire world. But not because of Trump, right? No, but he hasn't pulled them back. He didn't end Afghanistan. I hate to say it. Sorry, Biden is the one who ended Afghanistan. And on the Epstein thing, the excuse they're using is even crazier. The ones who said at first, Maghavis, and this is not all of them, but some of the sort of prominent ones who want Trump to know who. Who are you talking about, Anne?

22:40Not naming names. Why not? That's a good point. Okay, Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon. Okay, what have they done? come up with BS excuses after saying one thing and then Trump totally blows them off and oh, well, it's okay. So the Epstein excuse is Wall Street Journal had that absolutely repellent and completely believable page that Donald Trump wrote for Epstein's birthday book.

23:07Ann Coulter:Yeah. And for those of you who are not familiar with it. So it's a drawing of a naked woman. it has this you know just sort of sleazy happy birthday and may every day be filled with secrets and then he signs his name where the naked woman's pubic hair would be so one thing I mean this is not exactly out of character you guys didn't know he was an utter vulgarian this you're just finding it out he used to hang around with Jeffrey Epstein dumped him long before I think the pedophilia stuff started But he gave that. I mean, there was the Access Hollywood tape. He said it. You know, he said it. A quote to The New Yorker on Jeffrey Epstein.

23:54And look, let me just say, I still wrote and stood by the book in Trump. We trust I care about policy. But just imagine and I'm not being approved. Imagine your father's doing any of this, saying any of this. um it wasn't he isn't admitting to sexual assault because he said if they let you um but the quote in the new yorker on on epstein was um some say he he loves beautiful women as much as i do except a little on the younger side okay the guy's a total the guy epstein total pervert and you're

24:31Ann Coulter:giving a quote like that and and joshing about on the younger side so put that in a box utter complete vulgarian, not at all surprised by the sketch. Trump as usual. It's so, oh my gosh, he's an idiot. Okay. Say you're accused of raping a woman in Cleveland. What do you say? It was consensual. What does Trump say? I've never been in Cleveland. well okay now all we need is evidence that you've been in Cleveland so what is his excuse on the birthday book thing which I think I mean he could have said oh I had an assistant write it um Jelaine co-conspirator with with Epstein she wrote it for us um nobody was ever supposed to see it she told me to do it this way that I would believe but no he says I never do drawings and then the next day they produce like a million drawings by him they've been sold at auction and by the way they were pretty good he's actually very talented really yeah yeah see this is if trump is watching this is the bit where he's back in love with that oh he said i'm gonna that might do it yeah so so why do you think that there's been we've had people on to talk about this a little bit why do you think these documents are not being released why do you think the investigation isn't fully transparent?

25:58I think it's 100 % Trump. It's obviously not head of the FBI and his assistant. It's not Kash Patel. It's not Dan Bongino. It's probably not the attorney general, whatever her name is, Bondi. But maybe she shouldn't have been bragging about it quite.

26:15Ann Coulter:So maybe they should have had that chit chat before she went on TV and said, I got the files right on my desk. This is one of the problems for MAGA, isn't it? Because they all trumpeted this as like their big reveal against the Democrats. And now they are the ones that are not releasing it. If you want smart, fearless commentary on the craziest things happening in media, politics and online culture, you'll love the Brad versus Everyone podcast hosted by Brad Palumbo, an independent journalist who calls it like it is. The podcast covers viral madness from across the political and cultural spectrum.

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28:56Not that I'm saying he's above board, total gentleman. Not going that far. I think his donors, I mean, it clearly was. There was, I think I may write about, this is my column this week. Oh, by the way, you can read my column, see my video on my Substack. Unsafe and Coulter.substack.com. That's what I meant to mention. I'm really bad at promoting myself. They're terrible. You wouldn't just randomly slip in a link to a Substack in the middle of a podcast with no reference for it whatsoever.

29:29Ann Coulter:Well, the column will show up right in your inbox, and it's almost entirely free. But I think I may write about this. This is about the Epstein thing. There was an article in the New York Times, or columnist, in the New York Times, I don't know, this weekend, by their in-house conservative, reminding me why I never read him. But the headline was about conspiracy theories, and I have a minor interest in conspiracy theories. I usually hate, hate, hate them, because what liberals do, they're doing right in front of us. They're hiding nothing. There's no man behind the curtain. But of course, there are a lot of true things that are dismissed as conspiracy theories.

30:10There are conspiracies. Sometimes it's not a theory. But anyway, his article was on conspiracy theories. And he gets the Epstein thing. And oh, it's Ross Douthat. I don't even know how to pronounce his name. Big Papist. And it is perhaps the dumbest column I've ever read. So he does this thing, which a lot of pundits do in New York. I don't know if they do it here. but it's all, they're going to be, you know, the reasonable middle ground. Both the right wing is

30:36Ann Coulter:wrong and the left wing is wrong, but here I'm going to come out right down the middle. Let me tell you the reasonable position. And each case, his quote, reasonable position is factually false, is absurd, is compared to the left wing position. It's stupider than that. So on Epstein, I'll just mention this one quickly. The right wingers say that that Jeffrey Epstein was running some sort of sex ring for the rich and powerful. Well, that's a fact. No, no, no. We know that we have court documents. We have we have witness statements. We have the girls saying that that Jeffrey made them have sex with his friends.

31:18Ann Coulter:We have that guy. What's his name? The model, the head of the modeling agency in France who's been accused. We have Leon Black in the United States. We have the head of, of, of, um, well, how about Prince Andrew? That's a fact. So don't call that a right-wing conspiracy theory. And then by the way, he ends up the column attacking the right and the left on conspiracy theories by telling us how he believes in UFOs.

31:48So, I mean, what is the impact on the MAGA base, do you think that this is a mortal blow or do you think this is just something Trump is going to ride out? Because if you take the approach of what Trump drained the swamp, this is the ultimate drain the swamp moment. This is the great reveal. This is Trump showing the corruption, deceit and perversion behind the curtain. Yes. Yes. I hope it remains a thorn in his side. I mean, when you say the mortal blow, what precisely does that mean? He's not going to be impeached over it. He's because Democrats definitely don't want it.

32:25Ann Coulter:I mean, Trump may have his own reasons, which are his donors. I think they don't want him to release it. I don't think he's in the files having sex with a 14 year old girl. I think it's his donors who don't want out. They're rich and powerful people. I think, but as long as it remains a thorn in his side, and in fact, I think this is part of the reason I need to keep writing about it, because since he has totally betrayed the MAGA base and worse than that, attacked them and called them, people who want the Epstein files out, called them idiots and saying, I don't want your support. This is his base.

33:08I mean, I've never seen him make such a mistake with his base. He really does think he's untouchable. But isn't he, though, Anne? Because look, look at the Iran thing, right? There were a lot of people who, there were some people who had principled opposition. Other people were just having a full-blown meltdown, calling for him to be impeached. Tucker Carlson went apeshit, you know, all these Candace Owens and all these other people, right? He stared them all down, proven ultimately completely correct on the decision he made. Eh, I would argue. the World War III predictions didn't materialize the US involvement didn't materialize I say it's because we put pressure on him not to let him materialize I think it's a very tenuous claim to make personally but that's fine my point is something else which is he saw off the critics and came out on top that's ultimately what happened only because he moved on we stopped obsessing with Iran I mean part of it is at least from my perspective it's not just that we're getting involved literally sending troops in.

34:05And again, he didn't end the war in Afghanistan. I'm sick of hearing about it. I don't want to turn on my TV and, you know, wither Iran and this leader and that leader

34:13Ann Coulter:and Shia and Sunni. Can we get back to my country for 10 minutes here? What's going on on our border? Can we care about my country? No, we always have to be fixated on wither the Middle East and Iran and Iraq and Israel and the Palestinians. And how about Ukraine and Russia? Meanwhile, on our border, Mexicans are killing nearly 100 ,000 Americans a year with the fentanyl. Oh, by the way, one thing I love about London, no pot. You can't walk 10 yards in New York City without reeking of marijuana. It's the most disgusting thing imaginable. So go London. You really haven't traveled widely in London.

35:00I'll take you to Briggs, and it'll be right up your street. Really? Yeah, there's plenty of pot in London. Well, they shouldn't do it. It's very bad for you. What I'm asking, well, it's interesting you mentioned, I know a lot of Americans feel that way about, you know, putting America first, which is totally understandable. Every country should put it. And that was his motto. Right. But now that he has secured the board, I mean, One of the interesting things is, of course, he came in on the promise of ending the conflict in Ukraine. In one day. In one day. I never thought that was particularly likely to happen.

35:36And it hasn't happened. Likewise with Israel and Gaza, that hasn't been settled yet. Why do you think that is? Well, you may not have noticed this. Trump is an exaggerator. Yeah. I have. I've got glimpses of that here every now and again. You don't really take it to the bank. Well, in the case of Russia, I mean, Putin just... I've noticed Ukraine is a much bigger issue over here than it is in America. It is over and done in America. Nobody cares. They're sick of spending money. It's just, it's going into this pit. And people keep dying, dying, dying. People would like it just to end. And I think Putin realizes, and by the way, he's not Hitler.

36:23He's not going to march into Poland. He wants, he definitely wants all of Ukraine. It is historically part of Russia. I am not defending him. He invaded the country. Shouldn't have done that. But that's what he wants. He's made it very clear. Not all of Ukraine is historically part of Russia, but fine. I'm from Russia, so.

36:47where did the word from for ukraine come from it means borderland there's a russian word and it was something like ukraine or something i'm talking about you know but that's a ukrainian word it means borderland so western ukraine used to be part of poland Eastern Ukraine was part of Russia and most of Southern Ukraine. Okay, I'm not believing you. You're not believing? No. Why not? What do you mean you're not believing me? I want to go look it up. Oh, okay, cool. Okay. So anyway, he wants it all. He does. And England and Spain, or France and Germany, aren't going to be funding Ukraine the way the U.S.

37:34was. the U.S. does not want to keep funding Ukraine. So I think Putin just sees his opportunity is going to keep on going. And Trump did not expect that. He thought, let's end it. A lot of Russians are being killed. Now, I think he's just moved on and doesn't care. So that's it with that one. And wait, what were we on the MAGA? Oh, Epstein. So as long as there's a thorn in his side, he does keep giving us a lot of good stuff to try to distract the MAGA base. I mean, stepped up quite a bit. I mean, I've barely been keeping up with U.S. news, but I've been reading. Sort of skimming the New York Times every day.

38:09And every day it's another Christmas gift to the MAGA base. What do you mean by a Christmas gift? What was the one?

38:21There was a really good one today. Oh, yeah. Way less spending on global warming. That has basically just been slashed from the government. So that's today. Yesterday, okay, maybe I won't do it chronologically day by day. The other one was, and I'm shocked that no other Republican president has done this, the national parks and monuments have to take out all the anti-American crap. and the New York Times trying to scare its readers into, you know, this massive, horrible censorship and we're losing our history. They had an article of the stuff that's being taken out. So this is supposed to make the average reader think, oh, my gosh, how can they take that out?

39:04Ann Coulter:And everyone just it makes your head explode. I can't believe they had this in a national park. Anything about it. There was some like the horse. Maybe it was the little horses in South Carolina or something, but there's a description of little horses. And of course, climate change has made their habitat more difficult. Every single hero in the United States, you need a full page on what the guy thought of slavery. John Muir, the father of our national parks. You guys probably, I mean, he was a big naturalist, big hero. Our national parks are beautiful. You have much more beautiful buildings. But boy, we have beautiful national parks.

39:43His is said mean things about, was it even blacks? It was Indians, our Indians, American Indians, and somebody else.

39:56Ann Coulter:Maybe it was just Indians. By the Liberty Bell, there was something about, now at the time, there were a lot of enslaved people. Can you please just give the history without everything being a reminder of slavery? So, okay, that's one thing. those are all going to be removed. Can't believe a Republican president hasn't done this before now. There's another one this week. Anyway, it's things like that you probably don't care about. No, no, no. I find it interesting because the way he's maneuvering himself. The thing that I've always found very interesting, I actually found it quite annoying, if I'm being honest, is the way that Republicans or nobody on the right who preached about corruption and the corruption in the Biden administration, which there was a lot of, and we don't need to go into it because we all know what it was.

40:46Yet when Trump releases his meme coin, which to me is just outrageous, everybody's like, oh, that's fine.

40:53Ann Coulter:I'm like, is it? Can't disagree with you. I think, I mean, it's hilarious. I think this is the most corrupt presidency in US history. When the money they are raking in with the NFTs and the meme coin. I mean, it is so blatant. It's right in front of our eyes. And the funny thing about, I don't care as long as we get a wall and mass deportations. If I have not made that clear, I don't care about anything but saving the country that will deal with, you know, future presidents being corrupt. I mean, it's corrupt in the sense that he, I should probably modify what I just said. It's corrupt in the sense that he, he's using the presidency to rake in so much money, which I believe is technically an ethics violation, but he isn't.

41:42Ann Coulter:Technically. Sounds like an ethics violation to me. But I think it's better than, for example, not releasing the Epstein files because in a trade-off with his donors. Okay, give me a hundred million and I won't release them. I mean, that hasn't come to light, but I'm just saying that right now he is just, as far as we know, just raking in the money to benefit himself and his family. He is pushing the MAGA policies. And I mean, I thought this and I think I said it publicly. I'm going to go on my sub stack with Mickey Kaus because he asked me. Now, if you liked Joe Biden's policies, would you care about this under Biden stuff?

42:30And we both agreed that I think most Americans wouldn't care if you like the policies. Because that was another one. I'm sorry. That was sorry to interrupt. That was just to benefit the Biden family. OK, I'd see my pushback to that is corruption is a cancer. And if you let it spread unchecked and you do not challenge it, it permeates into every facet of society. Society eventually collapses, which is what I've seen in Venezuela. Yeah, you're right. Which is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. I think the most corrupt, actually. Yeah, Venezuela. Thank you, mate. Thank you. Motor capital of the world as well.

43:09Perfect. But so when I see, I find what you're saying, Anne, as a Republican and as a conservative, quite shocking, if I'm being honest, because if we don't challenge corruption at the helm and the highest possible echelon, you're basically giving it a free pass, aren't you? No, I agree with that in principle, and you're totally nailing me on it, and I'm probably blushing now. But our country is so much further gone than yours is. I thought when I wrote Adios America in 2015 about immigration, not just illegal immigration, all immigration. Since 1970, we have been hauling in the third world hand over fist.

43:58I mean, 80, 90 percent of our legal immigrants are from the third world. Yeah, try to immigrate from Western Europe. It was a specific design by the Democrats to change the country more in their favor and happened to wreck the country at the same time. We're down to, I mean, this is something else that we can look up and get the actual number on. We're down to, I mean, from 1620 up until 1970, the country was 80 to 90 percent white, 10 to 20 percent black. Those are foundational Americans. And the 1970 population overwhelmingly traced its ancestry back to colonial times. We're now down to, well, it's about 13 % black, so that hasn't changed that much.

44:47We're now down to, I think, around 57 % white Americans. And by the way, they include a lot of Hispanics in white. And people always talk about, and I'm sorry, but the president of Singapore was right. People do vote their ethnicity. city. The Democrats were right. Bringing in third world immigrants got them a lot of votes. You know, maybe we can change in the future. Maybe, maybe it takes about 100 years. Wait, didn't Hispanics break for Trump this election?

45:17Ann Coulter:Nope. Big fat lie. They went a little bit more for the Republican. It's like the rate of growth in the government. No, it was a huge cut. Rate of growth. No, no. What was it? What was the breakdown? I don't remember off the top of my head. It was more than usual, and there were a few areas where it seemed to matter. I forget what it was, but it was absolutely not a majority. It was a big move. I think Hispanic men might have slightly made it. But meanwhile, white males between the ages of 18 and 25 were like 90 % Trump voters. That's a good demographic for us. So people always talk about, and maybe it's probably the same here, but how politics will swing.

45:58There's a pendulum back and forth. And, you know, it'll seem like Republicans totally on the upswing. Well, you got, you know, FDR, liberal, liberal, liberal. Then we got Reagan. It seems like they're going to be around forever. And then Obama. Oh, my gosh, Republican Party is finished. And it seems to swing back and forth. But, I mean, in the 1950s, which I wrote about with the communist stuff and Alger Hiss and Joe McCarthy, if I had lived in those times, I would have thought the country's over. Our government is streaming with spies for Stalin.

46:32Ann Coulter:That would have looked pretty bad to me. And then, you know, Algerhuis, not Algerhuis, Whitaker Chambers said, I'm moving from the Communist Party to the side of truth and God. And I'm moving from the winning side to the losing side. He's kind of a pessimistic fellow. But no, in the end, the losing side won. So so you would think you'd have, you know, more hope that you do have the pendulum swing and as crazy as it gets. But that was with a different population. Reagan wouldn't win one, two landslides now with the new demographics. Look at California for your future America. California gave us our until Trump, our two greatest Republican presidents, Richard Nixon and Donald Trump.

47:22You can't get elected dog catcher in that state anymore without being a Democrat and far left progressive Democrat. I met a girl. I hope she doesn't listen to this because she really annoyed me here in in in London. I sat next to her at a dinner and she's, you know, big social conservative. I'm big social conservative. I'm pro-life. I'm in the whole nine yards. But she was saying that. No, she's she's not worried about immigration because the third worlders, you know, the Mexicans and the Muslim, they're voting against trans and they're against abortion.

48:06Ann Coulter:And I said, OK, go to California and get your pro-life bill through and then I'll say it can be done. Yeah, they're Catholics that are technically anti-abortion, but they don't vote on it. They vote for government benefits. So is that the real reason why you are? Because the statement that people always say with America is that it's a nation of immigrants. That's complete bullshit. It is used to destroy our country. It is not a nation of immigrants. It was invented by liberals to help destroy our country. It is a nation of British settlers. Thank you very much. And it remains a country of, well, Dutch.

48:46They were more traitors. Whereas, thank God for England's primogenitor law, where the firstborn son gets everything, which I guess you have to do on a small little island or estates get broken up. But because of that, you have all these really smart second and third born sons, and they're just SOL.

49:04Ann Coulter:You have the smart girls, and they don't get anything either. So we got a lot of the really, really smart, smart British people who came over and founded what King George called that Presbyterian War. it was the country was overwhelmingly uh british presbyterian you had the dutch in new york but like i say they were traitors and it's an example of immigration overwhelming the dutch and so many british came in that the dutch sort of lost their influence but a lot of stuff is named after them very important then i think i you know fair number of germans came over but are there more germans though.

49:49Ann Coulter:This is what I have been... Over time, yeah. They used to be the largest ethnic group, though I think that's a little bit fake because people who are descended from the British don't call themselves, I'm an English immigrant. I mean, like me, I just call myself an America. Right. And isn't the point that people are trying to make... By the way, people say this about Britain, Britain's a nation of immigrants, and that actually is... That is silly. And I've done articles on my sub stack and videos about it. But with America, isn't what people mean is that everyone who currently lives in America came from somewhere else.

50:24So it's less perhaps abnormal or surprising that more people are coming from somewhere else to America. I've traveled in America. I've probably been to at least half of the states. My sense was always that Americans are much more pro-immigration than British people are. They're very against illegal immigration, as I think they're right to be, but I don't get the sense that they're not pro-immigration. Do you see what I mean? Yes, yes, yes. Point one, the idea that, absolutely, you travel, and it's, what was it not? Majority White is barely hanging on by its fingernail.

51:02Ann Coulter:So yes, it's happened, but when you say nation of immigrants, it sounds like this is like a founding principle. No, this is how Teddy Kennedy and the Democrats changed the country beginning in 1970. So, I mean, you can take a really expensive bottle of wine and pour vinegar in it and then say, this wine sucks. It's a bottle of vinegar. Well, no, it wasn't. It was a bottle of wine. You poured vinegar in it. And that doesn't make it a bottle of vinegar. And you are absolutely right, much to my absolute blinding fury, that yes, they distinguish between legal immigrants. As Trump says, we love legal immigrants, just not illegal immigrants.

51:51And I mean, that was a big part of my book, Adios America. It wasn't about illegal immigrants. It's about immigrants. What they mean when they say this, I know this is what they mean. pre-1970 immigrants and post-1970 immigrants, because they're thinking of, I mean, the immigrants that came end of the 18th century, end of the 19th century, beginning of the 20th century. No, they were fantastic. Those were all still Western Europeans. So a lot of them, that's only a few generations back. So a lot of them are thinking of, you know, their grandparents who came from Ireland or Germany or Italy. That's who they're thinking of when they say legal immigrants.

52:35Ann Coulter:They don't realize that the only difference in, I mean, Biden made a joke of it. By saying, OK, illegal immigrants massing at our border, peasants with no skills, inability to speak English, who are instantly going to go on welfare, mug us, kill us, drive drunk, rape little girls. No, you can come in legally. Biden just did that. So they're legal immigrants. It's the same people. It's about 85 % third world. And yes, we can take people from anywhere and assimilate them. But for one thing, assimilation is a bad word now. They act like, It's hate speech to try to assimilate people. They live in their little—I mean, they're basically creating their own ghettos within the United States up in Dearborn, Michigan.

53:29Ann Coulter:They have signs in Arabic. And I like a lot of them. My senator was from Michigan, but that's crazy. In Minnesota, all the Somalians, they absolutely only vote for a Somalian. The U.S. representative from that area, Ilhan Omar, she gives speeches. You see this huge mass of Somalians and she's saying, I'm here to represent the Somalian people. You're supposed to be representing America now. And that's a big problem with bringing in. You can't bring them in in a tidal wave like that. You have to bring them in bit by bit, get them accustomed to American ways, which which is the way of the wasp. All right, people, it's trivia time.

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57:54Yeah, for president. I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him. I said he could be, you know, senator. He's running for Senate now. Why? He was born in America, right? Yes. Why wouldn't you vote for him for president? Look up all the presidents of India.

58:11Ann Coulter:Have they ever had a non-Indian president? Why, no, they haven't. Has Israel ever had a non-Israeli president? Why is my country the only country that is supposed to have, oh, no, anybody can run our country? Britain had an Indian prime minister. Yeah, I don't think it went that well. And that was fairly recent. It was fairly recent, and it didn't go well, but it wasn't because he was Indian. It's because his party is useless. I wouldn't have voted for him because he's Indian. I think. And by the way, we have a natural born citizen clause for that. I mean, there is, as I explained to Vivek in his podcast.

58:45I was a real really started off with a bang on that one. It was a rash decision at the last minute. All my friends oppose and I think a lot of people oppose Vivek because they think of him as a scam artist and a con man. And I was thinking, well, I can't say that to him. I wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian.

59:01Ann Coulter:Let's throw that one out. But I explained this to him at the time. There's a reason we have the National Born Citizen Clause for president. There is an idea, and I think people feel it even more now because of the mass of immigrants from very, very different cultures. America, I mean, like Britain, like most countries, I guess, it has a very distinctive culture. We are the freest country in the world. Free speech is is in our bones. The right to bear arms is in our bones. And when polls are taken, no matter how nice they are, immigrants overwhelmingly do not support free speech and gun rights.

59:44Ann Coulter:I mean, those are just two examples. But doesn't Vivek support free speech and gun rights? But the point is still the same, and that is there is the idea that over generations it's in your bones. This is in your blood. You would die for this country. It's just second nature to believe in the right to bear arms. And, yeah, immigrants can pick this up. Look, I told him I'd go for his kids if they married an American. But he is an American, isn't he? Yeah, he is, but he's an Indian American. and he is a second generation immigrant. Okay, but the rule about the natural... No, I'm using that as an analogy.

1:00:24Ann Coulter:Otherwise, I wouldn't have had to say that. I could have just said, you're not natural born. Ted Cruz isn't natural born. I wouldn't have to explain. This is an analogy that it matters how deep your connection is to a very distinctive culture. But you said that's because there's certain things that are embedded in the culture, like being in favor of the First Amendment, being in favor of the Second Amendment. But Vivek is in favor of all those things, and you still wouldn't quote from him. Well, he says that. I want it in their bones. I want the wives to believe it. I want it generation after generation after generation.

1:00:54Ann Coulter:I don't want it to have to be something they need to study and figure out this is what they're supposed to say about it. But aren't there loads of white Americans who don't believe it in either of those amendments? Sure. But you would— A lot. No, that's not true. No. Aren't there a lot? No. The answer is no, no, no. The people who support— There's a lot of white Californians who don't believe in either of those amendments. Yeah, and a majority do. And a majority of no other ethnic group does. And a majority of no other ethnic group does. But surely, wouldn't the position be, Anne, is to take everybody on their own individual merits?

1:01:29Isn't that just the way it should be?

1:01:30Ann Coulter:Does everybody get to be president? If you're born in the country and you're an American citizen, then you should have the chance, shouldn't you? Isn't that the American dream? Tell Netanyahu. Tell the Israelis. As soon as they put in a president who's not an Israeli, I will say you guys are absolutely right. Judge people on their own. But he isn't an American. He is an American. It's not like he's just come over and then assumed the mantles. There are Muslim Israelis. Right, and they serve in the Supreme Court and they can be elected president. They won't be elected president. Well, they can be.

1:02:08Ann Coulter:Well, OK, but I'm not saying there should be a constitutional amendment. I say I won't vote for that person. And you know damn well Israelis are not voting for Muslim president because they don't want to, just as Anne doesn't want to. Which is, look, I mean, that is fair, Anne. If you don't want to, you don't want to. I think the question that I want to ask, therefore, is, is MAGA just a one-term thing? Is this just going to be a one-term, flash in the pan, built around the cult of Trump, or is this going to be something longer lasting? Not a chance that it will be one term. When I when I describe the MAGA cult, I don't know what percentage of Trump voters just like that he the way he talks.

1:03:01Like I say, his personality as opposed to his policies. But a lot of people care about the policies. And my my my proof of that is 2016 was at least the third time Donald Trump ran for president. this is the first time he talked about immigration and swept the primaries. And by the way, if you look, I mean, I described this in Trump We Trust. You look at that opening speech coming down the escalator. He talked about a lot of stuff. The Mexican rapist thing was like 8 % of the opening speech.

1:03:37Ann Coulter:It could have been about Obamacare. It could have been about guns. It could have been about... I mean, those words do tend to stand out. I think a lot of them. I think you can find a lot of them that stand out when he I mean, attacking Jeb Bush, saying your father lied us into war. The reason the reason I mean, he was lucky. The entire media, the entire Republican Party, the entire Democratic Party, I mean, of the elites opposed him on that. But the people were for him on that. So the more the media attacks him, the more they were doing his PR for him by advertising his single most popular policy.

1:04:17Ann Coulter:And even though it didn't take bravery, it took, you know, not being a moron to start pick up the popular policy. It made him look brave. So no, immigration. And when he got elected this time, New York Times ran a poll. And there were a million polls showing the same thing. But I'm saying this is a statement against interest because the New York Times is very liberal. They were on a big poll. Most Americans, a majority, didn't like his personality, didn't like him personally, but they overwhelmingly supported him on immigration, expressly mass deportations. It's a popular issue. Even the Republicans like Rubio, who pushed an amnesty and was, oh, the most beloved Republican over at Fox News, where they love amnesty.

1:05:08Ann Coulter:Every Republican, when Trump ran in 2016, every Republican supported amnesty. At the very end, Cruz, the closest to him, I'd say, ideologically flipped. Now all of them, amazingly, Rubio, whom I hated, hated, hated for being this beloved amnesty pusher, man, he sounds like adios America now. He could be quoting straight from my book. So Republicans have flipped. They've figured it out. You know what I bet it will be like? I hope this doesn't end up being a problem. So Reagan runs on tax cuts. taxes, the highest tax rate back then, this may be nothing to you guys, but it was like 78%. That's quite a lot to us.

1:05:57Ann Coulter:I mean, that's for each dollar above a certain amount, but still. But that's a huge amount. 78%. So he runs on cutting taxes. And, you know, unlike Trump's first term, he kept his promises, slashes taxes. Now, since then, my idiot Republican Party keeps running on cutting taxes. But the only difference in a Republican president and a Democrat president on taxes, and look, I'm for tax cuts. It's always good. But it's like 34 percent versus 39 percent. It's not just to 50 percent, 60 percent, 78 percent. So Reagan won the argument on that. I think, if anything, we would see the Democrats coming around on immigration, as some of the liberal parties in Europe have done in order to win.

1:06:45Really? So you think, for instance, Gavin Newsom would go out and talk about limiting immigrants? I mean, he's got no integrity and he would do whatever it takes to win. So actually, you made my argument for me. Yeah, fair. But I just see the Dems as being so ideologically compromised. They know what they need to do. Do they? Do they? Do they? Do they? I see the Dems as being like Jehovah's Witnesses. They know that they need to take the blood of transfusion in order to save themselves, but they can't do it for Bridget. Yeah, but they've got principles. They've got, you know, they've got a greater purpose in life, right?

1:07:26And their purpose is, you know, to save the poor illegal immigrants and the trans kids and whatever, right? Yeah. They can't go back on that. Just like the Jehovah's Witnesses. Yeah. I think they can. I don't know that they will. It's hard to imagine right now, I admit it. But there are two reasons I think they can. is one, until they noticed that the post-1970 immigrants were voting for them, a lot of Democrats were as tough as I am on immigration. Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader for a

1:07:58Ann Coulter:while, Democrat from Nevada, he gave a blistering speech on anchor babies. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, both from California, absolutely hardcore on immigration because it was hitting California first. Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama. I have a whole chapter in my book. basically listing left-wing American politicians talking about immigration. Yes. And they were to the right of Donald Trump, all of them. Yes. Yes. Bernie Sanders. Well, to the right of 2016 Trump. Right. And Bernie Sanders, when he ran in 2016. So he drives down American workers' wages. Which it does. Which it does. And then he flipped.

1:08:34Yeah. Because he went back to the mothership. And, oh, no, they're voting for us. But, okay, so that's one point. They have believed this. But the difference is now the people are different. Ilhan Omar and AOC are never going to come out against immigration. True. So the immigrants won't. But the other Democrats, the reason they might is to take Ilhan Omar as an example. So the mayor of Minneapolis, total leftist freak boy, he was the one, you may have seen this, weeping like a baby in front of George Floyd's gold casket. Yeah, I remember. Yeah.

1:09:12Ann Coulter:Just an absolute soy boy pussy on this. Well, guess what? They just had the Democratic primary and he lost to a Somali. AOC took the place. And I wrote about this and maybe I was just arguing with my producers. Anyway, I read my own books on audiobook, and I'm sitting in the studio arguing with the producers, the producer and his daughter, I guess, during our lunch break. I think it came up in one of my books that this is the end of the white Democrats. You guys are so screwed. It's over. And there was this, I think his name was Thomas Crowley, long time. Irish have dominated the Democratic Party.

1:09:57congressmen and AOC runs, and it was a wipeout. And he isn't the only one.

1:10:06Ann Coulter:Democrats are losing their positions. They made a slight miscalculation. We'll bring in all these third worlders, and they'll vote for us. It never occurred to them that the third worlders might want to run for office, and they block vote for their ethnicity. So ha, ha, ha, Democrats. The one thing that's interesting with the Democrats is looking at what's happened in New York with Mandani. Is that his name? It's very hard to pronounce because in English, there's no word that has an M followed by a D. It's hard for your mouth to say it anyway, but it's Mamdani. OK, so Mamdani, because that looks to me and we're seeing the same type of rhetoric being used over here, which is this very hardcore, very leftist, old school leftist, I would say, which isn't about identity politics.

1:11:02It's going right down to the argument of economics. It's talking about billionaires. It's talking about us and them. It's talking about inequality. Would it not be smart for the Democrats to actually attack using that type of policy and that type of rhetoric? Yes, but only in places like New York. It will not work out in America. working class is definitely done with the Democrats. I think it works in New York, and that's a very smart point, because the people actually voting for Mom Donnie aren't the poor. It's the rich elites.

1:11:44Ann Coulter:They're totally down with the communist manifesto. So you say it's only going to be the rich elites who are susceptible to voting for that particular type of narrative. Well, blacks in New York, for example, overwhelmingly voted for Cuomo. And he's a complete horse's ass. So, you know, they had to overcome a lot to vote for him. That's really interesting. So you don't see that as being... Because in the UK, that narrative, as we see with the cost of living crisis, as we see, you know, the... Everything's a crisis in Britain. Whenever there's any kind of problem, it's a crisis. Exactly. Costa living crisis, housing crisis, energy crisis, climate crisis.

1:12:27Welfare crisis. Border crisis. Everything is a crisis. So essentially, and maybe that taps more into the kind of the British mind, but it seems more and more that over here, that kind of talking, those talking points and that rhetoric is becoming normalized. But you don't see that as being an issue in the United States. No, that's a really smart point. And I think it is the difference, a difference between us and not only England, but all these European countries where the far left, the communist left, they actually did have the working class voting for them. And I'm pretty sure that's true of labor over here.

1:13:10That's never been true in the U.S. Reagan, it was a hard hat revolution during when Nixon was president and you had all the you know, anti-war protesters and anti-Nixon protesters, even though he's the one who ended the war. It was the hard hats who came out into New York City and beat up the hippies. And one Lindsay, Mayor Lindsay, very left-wing mayor of New York. Damn, I forget who it was. Um, some lefty died and he put the flag at half mast and, and the hard hat guys climbed up the flagpole and raised it to the, to the top of the mast. Um, they, they have not been putting up with this nonsense for a long time.

1:13:58And in fact, um, one of my, one of my now, now conservative friends was a lefty in the sixties and, uh, with some cult-like groups. And their objective was to get the working class to, you know, support the left wing because it had not happened before in the U.S. And he says, you know, I went in to change the working class and they changed me. And he became a huge, you know, Reaganite right winger. But our working class is not left wing. Are you hopeful for the future of America? because when we were talking on Saturday, you showed more optimism for the UK, which I found baffling, if I'm being honest.

1:14:41That's tourist eyes, mate. That's what that is. That's tourist eyes. Sorry. That's tourist eyes. No, I am more optimistic for you guys. I mean, I wish you could get Farage in a little sooner. This four-year thing is really annoying. When I wrote Adios America, I wrote it in 2015. And back then, I thought, this country is so over, but maybe we have a 10 % chance of saving it. And it's my country. I love it. It's worth writing this book. And then, thank God, Trump read it. And boy, that Mexican rapist stuff, is that all over. Adios, America. And the day he was inaugurated, I thought my and I was emailing with with, you know, Stephen Miller and the other few simpatico people saying suddenly our hope has gone from 10 percent to 90 percent to save the country.

1:15:35And then we got term one and he didn't do anything. And everyone, you know, down.

1:15:39Ann Coulter:And also Biden brought in 20 million new illegal aliens. We already had about 40 million. And what are the chances now? I don't know. Let's see if Trump and the other Republicans can keep their promises. But I think you guys are way better off. You just have to do the right stuff. Like Elect Farage. Well, I think the problem is you say do the right stuff. I look at Keir Starmer. I don't think that's going to happen. And he's going to be in power for four years. Now, if he's actually going to make it through those four years, I think it's a big question. Well, even though we do tend to have very rigid rules, there could be an earlier election.

1:16:17It depends on what happens. That would be fantastic. And why do you like Faraj so much? Well, he's a leader of Brexit. He's been responsible for a long time. I went to one of his press conferences this week, and he's very good on his feet, had great answers for everything. Also very good on free speech. with that. He was attacking that safety act, which instantly started showing up in my internet feed,

1:16:43Ann Coulter:by the way. It's unbelievable. You're the mother country. You're supposed to believe in freeze beach. But wait, what was, oh, how about, wasn't Trump's advice to Starmer hilarious? He's telling him basically to do everything Farage is recommending. yeah i mean and then he for him for good measure he gave a few swipes against our mayor i loved that but i loved him acting like he's just talking like starmer is going to take it you got to cut off the boat you got you send them home in the safety act cut taxes as if he's just you know putting his arm around him giving him some good brotherly advice do you know what i'm sure Starmer will listen very carefully.

1:17:29Ann Coulter:Take it under advisement. Before Anne answers the final question at the end of the interview, make sure to head over to our sub stack. The link is in the description where you'll be able to see this. You're the only public figure I've seen point out on Bill Maher's show that when the media doesn't announce a suspect's race in the headline, we know the suspect is not white. This trend is so obvious and so racist, why has no one else spoken out about it? Do you think history will come to see Elon Musk as a tragic patriot? is what is your prediction for the candidates in the 2028 race? JD, definitely JD.

1:18:03And on the Democrats? Oh my gosh, they are so screwed. And we're going to head over to our sub stack in a second where our audience get to ask you their questions. You've requested questions with the C word against you. So we'll do as many of those as we can.

1:18:16Ann Coulter:Well, I was just saying you don't need to edit them. Well, now we certainly won't, if there are any. But before we head on over there, what's the one thing we're not talking about that we should be? Well, we covered probably enough to bore your audience, my number one topic the most. And then we covered my second most favorite topic, Epstein.

1:18:38It doesn't have to be politics. It can be absolutely anything. Well, there's Sidney Sweeney. That's fantastic. I was asking my guys earlier today because I've not been very well last week. I've taken a week off the Internet mainly. And then I came back and basically, explain this to me, right? What happened is this jeans company put a blonde girl with big tits in an ad.

1:18:58Ann Coulter:Not exactly that. I think you're... Doing her a disservice. ...demeaning it. She's a pretty all-American girl. That's what I'm saying. Great. I'm all in favor of that. But I don't think it's the big tits. That's a very female perspective. But anyway. Let's be honest. The boobs do play a massive part of it. Okay. Let's not zero in on the tits. I was unnecessarily crass. They put an attractive blue-eyed blonde girl on a jeans ad, and they said she's got great jeans, playing on the word jeans, and everyone said they're Nazis. Is that what happened? Yep. No, not everyone. The, you know, so moderate and normal Democratic Party.

1:19:42Ann Coulter:That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I don't even understand the leap of logic exactly. Is being blonde and blue-eyed, I mean, you're... Nah, I see where they're going. Exactly. Well, what's funny, I'm doubly, quadruply funny about this, is basically since George Floyd, there have been no blonde models. Zero. Every TV commercial, every magazine commercial, it's just black, black, blackity, black, black, black, black. And, you know, it's 13 % of the population. They're just begging people to say, what the F? So they can say, oh, does that offend you? No, but it's weird. It's just weird to say, I mean, why not have, you know, every ad with a one-legged man?

1:20:31Ann Coulter:It's just weird that they're obsessed with this. And now for the first time, and if they would have someone who wasn't, you know, obviously black, it would have to be this neutral. Could be Hispanic. Yeah, there's this like racially ambiguous category now. But not blonde. Yeah, I see. Cannot be blonde. But why does that make them Nazis? I don't get it. Because the Democratic Party learned so much from the 2024 election. Yeah, they really haven't. Let's try to be normal. We're trying, we're trying. Let's head over to Substack where our audience are going to call our names. See you then. Which is a better media strategy and odds of success for the Trump administration over the Russiagate probe?

1:21:11to target Hillary alone, or Hillary with Obama, Brennan, and Comey, or another variation of the major players? And who would you target?

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