What is Happening on the Right. And Why - Konstantin Kisin

6 Nov 2025 · 12 min · 7 chapters

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In short

Konstantin Kisin argues that factional conflict on the US/UK “right” is being driven by generational alienation and by “woke right”/identitarian ideas, not by Nick Fuentes himself. He links the Ukraine/Israel-Hamas era to a wider “collapse of the post-WWII order,” then claims backlash against “wokeness” is producing an identitarian revenge politics.

Guests

The episode transcript names no co-guests. It references Kevin Roberts (Heritage Foundation CEO) and Dana Loos (interviewer), but they are not presented as guests in this episode.

Key claims

Gen Z is “fatherless” (about 25% without a father), male guidance is reduced (female-dominated teaching), and young men are resentful; Fuentes profits by exploiting this. Kisin says Roberts’ “engage, not cancel” stance contradicts refusing to host Fuentes.

Notable examples

Tucker Carlson hosting Nick Fuentes on Rumble; Fuentes praising Hitler and encouraging violent chants; Heritage’s defense of Carlson; “woke left” vs “woke right” (globalists/Jews as culprits); Tom Holland’s “what would Hitler do” framing; claims about open borders, legalized crime, homelessness, and gender ideology.

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Introducing Snacksy: A New Gaming App

1:11 to 2:19

Discussion about the Snacksy app that rewards users for playing games.

“I'm not a gamer, even though I look like one.”

The Cycle of Historical Lessons

2:21 to 3:45

Exploration of how generations learn from history and its implications on society.

“And when you sign up, use the code TRIGGERPOD.”

The Right's Internal Struggles

3:47 to 6:05

Analysis of the split in the political right due to recent events and figures like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes.

“and was wedged open by the Israel-Hamas war.”

The Impact of Fatherlessness on Gen Z

6:07 to 7:21

Discussion on how the lack of male figures affects Gen Z's development and perceptions.

“A quarter of Gen Z grew up without a father present, up from just 9 % in 1960.”

Fascism's Resurgence Among Youth

7:21 to 8:39

Examination of why some young men are drawn to fascist ideas in the current socio-political climate.

“And for the entirety of this time, they were told that all men are trash, the future is female, and that they were to blame for every ill of humanity.”

The Woke Right and Its Ideologies

8:39 to 11:05

Insight into the emergence of a white identitarian movement within the right.

“Look at the other side of the political spectrum.”

Backlash Against Wokeness

11:05 to 11:53

Discussion about the predictable backlash against extreme social ideologies and its consequences.

“would produce an equal and opposite reaction on the right.”
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0:00Konstantin Kisin:I've bought two mattresses in my entire life. Both times I walked into a shop, lay on it for about four seconds and thought, yeah, that'll do. Genuinely world-class decision making, which is crazy because you spend a third of your life on the thing and most of us buy one the way you'd buy a toaster. Today's sponsor is Avocado Green Mattress. Certified organic mattresses. No polyurethane foam anywhere near them, just natural materials and they're handmade. The bit that actually got me is you don't have to buy it blind. Avocado has real showrooms plus retail partners across the US. So you can go in, lie down properly, not for four seconds, and work out if it actually suits you before you pay for it.

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2:42Francis Foster:I remember reading a theory of history a long time ago which gave a persuasive explanation for why human society seemed to repeat the same mistakes over and over. Every generation, it said, only really learns what to do, how to think, and which pitfalls to avoid from the two preceding generations with which it has direct contact. We don't learn lessons from history, we learn them from our parents and grandparents. For proof of this, if you're a man my age, you're likely to know a fair bit about World War II and almost nothing about World War I. No one watching this who is not explicitly a history nerd will know much more than the meaningless basics about the Napoleonic Wars.

3:24Francis Foster:In other words, if history repeats itself, or at least rhymes, it is because we are repeating the mistakes of our great-grandparents, i.e. people who lived 80 to 90 years ago and could not personally warn us. As the saying goes, those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it, and those who do know history are doomed to watch others repeat it. This is why I think many people cannot see what is happening on the right following the split which began with the invasion of Ukraine and was wedged open by the Israel-Hamas war. The reason for this video is of course the unfolding events of the last few days here in the US where I'm on a month-long recording trip.

4:03Francis Foster:The story began when Tucker Carlston hosted Nick Fuentes on his show. Fuentes is a streamer on Rumble, where he expresses his admiration for Hitler, who he says is very cool. He asks his followers to join in chants like, I will kill and rape for Nicholas J. Fuentes, and gives his latest takes on Jewish power in America, mixing all of this in with comments like, around blacks never relax. When Tucker invited Fuentes on for a softball interview, many on the American right, who've been privately shocked by the recent direction some in their movement have taken, began to openly murmur about whether a dangerous line had been crossed.

4:39Francis Foster:In response, Kevin Roberts, CEO of the Heritage Foundation, whom we interviewed for Trigonometry on our last visit here, released a video in which he robustly defended Carlson against a venomous coalition which was engaging in, quote, cancellation. He pledged eternal friendship to the former Fox News anchor, while also stating that he did not agree with Fuentes' views. This attempt to pacify both sides only stirred matters further. The following day, Roberts expressed disgust at Fuentes' rhetoric and insisted that the answer was not to cancel, but to engage. The problem for Roberts is that this attempt to sit on two stools cannot work.

5:17Francis Foster:This became exceedingly clear in his interview with Dana Loos, throughout which Roberts repeatedly insisted that the answer to bad ideas is to engage them, while simultaneously saying that he would never host Fuentes at Heritage or on his podcast. This is an obvious contradiction that even a slick political operator like Roberts cannot resolve. It's not his fault that the generational factional conflict within the right is coming to a head. You cannot simultaneously appease people who believe in a fixed set of ideas and people who believe that the only ideas worth having are cynicism and revenge.

5:50Francis Foster:The Boomacon establishment does not understand that Fuentes is not the problem. He is a symptom. And the reason they don't understand that is that they don't understand young men who make up the overwhelming majority of his audience. This entire phenomenon is driven by a number of factors which are affecting young men. They are the most fatherless generation in history. A quarter of Gen Z grew up without a father present, up from just 9 % in 1960. They've had less male guidance and direction than any group of men in american history even boys born after world war ii the most murderous war in which over 400 000 american men died they did not experience the economic prosperity or political stability of the pre-9 11 era buying a house especially in america's major cities becomes harder every year they were educated in the school and college system which is overwhelmingly female 77 of american school teachers are women i don't bring this up to criticize female teachers or suggest that they're not as good as men.

6:46Francis Foster:Many female teachers are great at teaching mathematics, music, geography, and history, but it's just harder for women to teach boys how to be men. As a result of the growing feminization of education and society at large, many young men were not taught to channel their aggression, anger, and competitiveness into productive activity. They were instead taught to suppress these natural male urges. And as any therapist will tell you, you can't keep the things you suppress down forever. Gen Z spent their entire formative years lagging behind women in education and now earnings. Young women without children out on men.

7:21Francis Foster:And for the entirety of this time, they were told that all men are trash, the future is female, and that they were to blame for every ill of humanity. It may be true that women haven't always had a fair deal in society, but that was never the fault of 15-year-old Zuma boys, who understandably bristle at being held responsible for something they neither created nor benefited from. And because they're white men, nobody cares about their problems. Is it really a surprise that some of them are resentful, angry, and openly rebellious? This perfect storm of alienation and the dearth of male guidance presents a lucrative opportunity for a new breed of influencer.

7:56Francis Foster:Unlike fathers, uncles, male teachers, and sports coaches, Fuentes is not motivated by a desire to make a positive impact on the lives of the boys who listen to him. A father is incentivized to raise his sons in a way that makes them resist their worst instincts. As an influencer who makes money getting views online, Fuentes is incentivized to do the exact opposite. But the reason he delights in saying Hitler was very cool is not only a transgressive revolt, against the puritanical gay-race communism rammed down his generation's throat during the woke era and a desire for cliques. It's also because, to a generation which lacks the deeply ingrained taboo against fascism, there is no reason why fascism wouldn't be the answer.

8:38Francis Foster:Some of their great-grandparents thought fascism was a great idea for many of the same reasons they do. Don't believe me? Look at the other side of the political spectrum. The British and American left is rapidly rediscovering its love for communism. Old ideas and old hatreds are returning across the Western world. No matter your views on illegal immigration, nobody who understands history can hear the AFD chanting Auslander Rouse in Germany without feeling at least some instinctive discomfort. I've called this faction the woke right. It is a term many are desperate to argue with me about, but few deny the phenomenon I'm describing.

9:14Francis Foster:A white identitarian movement which, like the woke left, believes in oppressor-oppressed dynamics, racial justice, and a conspiratorial force that's holding them back. On the woke left, the root of all evil was the patriarchy, imagined as a cabal of white men whose sole purpose was to deny equality to women and minorities. On the woke right, it was initially the globalists, but as I predicted in a different video, it has now evolved into simply the Jews, who are responsible for the suffering of the disadvantaged and oppressed white man. This is what people actually mean when they talk about the collapse of the post-World War II order.

9:50Francis Foster:Shocked by the desolation caused by that war and the evils of fascism, and coming so soon after the war to end all wars, the West decided it might be a good idea to lay down some spoken and unspoken rules about what we can and can't do. One conclusion was that we let down a persecuted minority and we must never do so again. By the mid-90s, the conclusion remained, but the rationale began to slip from our collective memories. The lesson of the Holocaust became quasi-religious dogma, culminating in the deranged notion that no human is illegal. The result was mass uncontrolled immigration into every Western country for the ensuing decades.

10:27Francis Foster:Another was the increased focus on compassion and inclusion. It's baddies like Hitler that are obsessed with strength and purity, went to logic. Therefore, we must instead embrace empathy and diversity. This is what historian Tom Holland means when he says that we no longer ask what would Jesus do, and instead ask what would Hitler do, and then do the opposite. These well-intended norms have now been taken to such extremes that they increasingly produce extreme results, such as open borders, legalized crime, rampant homelessness, and gender ideology. The backlash against all of this was eminently predictable.

11:01Francis Foster:So much so that many of us have warned for many years that wokeness would produce an equal and opposite reaction on the right. How could it not? Did you really think that telling one group that they're bad because of their sex and skin color, while celebrating and promoting other groups for their sex and skin color, would not produce an identitarian backlash? In any case, Groypas, as Fuentes fans are known, are not conservatives. They are the voice of a generation which feels ignored, mistreated, and unfairly maligned. They don't want small government, they want revenge. The bulwark against this voice of Cain was shot in the neck and killed on a college campus a few weeks ago.

11:38Francis Foster:Charlie Kirk was single-handedly leading the Zuma right away from bitterness and resentment towards God, family, and service. How and whether the remaining principled conservatives try to resolve this attempt to take over their movement remains to be seen. If you enjoy these videos, remember they're available at ConstantinKissian.com as articles days, weeks, and sometimes months ahead of time. Head on over there now and subscribe. The news doesn't just tell you what's happening. It so often tells you what to think is happening. And these days, the biggest red flag isn't what's said, it's what gets left out.

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