Sadia Khan On Relationships, Integrity, And Public Pressure With Sean Callagy

35:12Yes, definitely have that thought. So I, when I heard this, was like, what the F are you thinking? Absolutely not. Not on brand. All this stuff is being said on social media. And no way are you getting on stage with her. Like, no way is that happening. And I was dead set against it in full transparency. Because I didn't feel like it was on brand for us. Okay. And you said she's physically presentable. so she's got a lot of following because she's physically presentable. That was my judgment. And not reading one. I'll give the exact quote. The exact quote was, how is everybody going to learn to look like Sadia?

35:55I don't think it's going to be very helpful for people to learn from Sadia because they don't look like Sadia. Yes, I did say that. And I had not looked at one piece of content. So how often, and I had to check myself, because how often do we make judgments before we actually even listen to one word? And when Sadia came into the green room, was that yesterday? Yesterday. Yesterday. Yeah. And she started speaking. And all she talked about was how grateful she was to be here. and thank you for taking a chance. And what they say online isn't true. And I thought to myself, and I couldn't believe what happened yesterday to me online.

36:52Yeah. The same thing had just happened. And I couldn't believe that I, who fancy myself as someone who is faith-based, believe in God, don't judge. I couldn't believe that I had judged so hardcore. And when she started speaking in the green room, how humble you were, how gracious you were, and the gratitude you had for just us taking a chance on you, I think, for your words. And so, first of all, I want to apologize for my judgment and for being a stand against it, all the judgment that I had. And my question for you is, like, when we go there, like, because there's a lot of stuff that's been said online.

37:52Like, how did that hit you? and now speaking to someone who had those judgments, who was one of those people, fancy myself as being opposite of that. Like, how did that whole experience feel for you? And now, like, hearing from someone that was one of those people that's now saying, I was fucking wrong. Aw, thank you.

38:21And as Sadi is answering, if I could also just share, I mean, let's keep it totally real, right? You know, I wasn't there when, you know, Bella was, you know, supporting Charlie Sheen and then Charlie asked Bella a question about, oh, like, how long have you and Sean been together? I was like, why do you ask that question? When I wasn't there, right? Like, it's Charlie Sheen. Like, so that's a reflexive reaction. And, you know, I am sure, well, I can't be sure, but it would be understandably present that if all the same thing was happening and Saadi was 97 years old in a wheelchair, it might not have, it might have, that might have also on a human level like at least been 1 % of the reflexive perspective.

39:15You mean just ask that a different way? Yes. If Saadi was 97 years old in a wheelchair, do you think you would have thought of things the exact same way absolutely not absolutely no no way shape or form and and i think because we keep it real here yeah like i'm telling like you know i'm like why charlie sheen say that that's weird would he have said that if i was there he didn't ask me about how long i've been in relationship with bella so level five listening is that's weird was he like looking for like a present reaction like we're human beings and we're smart and our survival brain kicks in and so does it kick in with everybody you're dealing with back to you absolutely and no way and i think i i believe even as a physically presentable person you even or we say i think hot um but you can say whatever you want yeah um i believe and I'm going to tell you this.

40:13I have never, ever in my life, and I couldn't, I'm not judging anyone, I have never in my life called a woman hot. I've never spoken to another man and commented and said, wow, she's hot, or words to that effect have never occurred in my life. And I'm not judging anyone who asks. I've done a lot of other things. I drop F-bombs. I'm happy that we'll say what I do do, but a long time ago, because of things I had experienced in my life, I became very present to not objectifying people. So I'm very reluctant, and it bothered me with my family so much, because they'd be like, oh my god, our family's so good looking, and they'd be like, oh look at Tyler, he's so handsome, look at Cory, it's so beautiful, and it would, when they were little, it would make me so upset because people cannot control physical percentability.

41:09And I just think it hurts my heart. And people can control so many other things. And so it is authentically present for me. Have I called people fucking assholes? Many times. Yes. Right. Yes. But I've never called anybody hot. Especially TSA agents. Especially TSA agents. but I'm I'm just this isn't for stage because some people are new you guys know that about me these are real principles I hold near and dear because people in my life objectify people when I was at Columbia and the objectification of women by other guys on the baseball team made me sick continuously crazy awful they would be one way in front of the women they would tell every story it was disgusting, horrible, awful just terrible so like that's a real thing for me and so it's not me being cute and silly on stage like I really do say back in the office I like the best I'll ever get is like hey like physically presentable or not you know man or woman because you know for a sales but like there's relevance so I'll say physically presentable or not you can ask Adam Fernando Tink Michael Spiken the whole crew like that is how I communicate so what you're seeing up here isn't staged it is real back to is it real it is what it is 100 % real because as soon as we met and I and I said to him because I met you before Sean did yes and then and one of the things that I uh don't love most in life is when I have to go to Sean and say I'm wrong like I don't love doing that and and I do it but you're never wrong time to time but I I did I went to him immediately and I was like, I was so wrong.

42:58Well, I was really, really touched when she did come and say that to me, and I'm actually really touched right now hearing that because you don't have to, you know, you don't have to provoke yourself on stage, and you're doing that for me and to make me feel more comfortable. So I really, can I just give a big thank you? Because, you know, you don't have to do that. Thank you so much for that. And may I say one more thing, Sadia? And truth, and listen, we have our whole own dynamic and rule structures around certain things and agreements right um so this is not like a one-way street this is a two-way street and one of the things bell is like okay and if she's coming you're not interviewing her alone like that happened except except today's bell like hey bella said like yeah i think maybe it would make more sense if you just interviewed saudi alone right so i give you all the credit in the world fat and i was like no i think it would be way better because all these things have happened to do it this way so this isn't required this is something that was my final call and I thank you for the trust I think Saudi for the trust and please Saudi back to you yeah so firstly very very grateful for that secondly I'm going to be totally transparent with you guys because I really trust the audience I really trust the hosts here but essentially just like Bella explained one of the problems I've always faced in my life is just by virtue of who I am, I provoke a lot of reactions in people that don't know me.

44:24It tends to happen, whether good or bad. It can be really positive from people who don't know me, and it can be a little bit negative from people who don't know me. And if you have heard what the rumors are online and so forth, the rumor is that I was involved with a married man, and it's on recording and so on and so forth. I can honestly genuinely confirm that that's not the case. But I'm going to tell you what really happened, which probably shouldn't because I'm going through legal cases. But, oh, well, you paid to be here. I know I'm really going to turn you. So let's do it first. And five different times I said, we do not need in any way to discuss this.

45:04And so I was like, no, I really want to. I'm like, amazing. Because you're witnessing influence mastery occur right now. This is an influence mastery immersion, number one. Number two, I became very clear that the monetization of Sadia's online platform integrously was a massively beautiful example for the entire room. So you could realize how available underdeveloped assets are. imagine if you invested and bought the land where Disney World was being built my grandmother Nani had some of that land and they had saved a few bucks and they bought it for like two thousand dollars and they sold it when my mom and dad were getting married that land would be worth would have been worth when Disney bought it 50x what they paid for it right so Sadia is an underdeveloped asset.

46:10You're not an asset only, but your ecosystem is, your platform is. And they're everywhere because people don't have a formula. So as you're struggling going to networking events, don't go. Contact people with 250 ,000, half a million followers online. Tell this story. Show these clips. you have them now they're yours if this is landing say yes do you understand how valuable this session is now if you do say yes because this is how you can create the freedom you seek just right here so please Sadia and please just go through it slowly as methodically as you like no rush just share what's on your heart what you want to share and here's the fun truth I don't even know what happened.

47:07I have, to this minute, I have no idea what this even is. I've heard 19 different times there's like controversy and things. I don't know what Charlie Sheen's controversy is. You know, I know he had an illness, a disease, a diagnosis. Like I'd heard that. I don't know any of the rest of this stuff. I don't care. But please, let's have the conversation. Yeah, okay. Sorry. So bear with me. I'm so sorry because I haven't said this out loud yet outside of legal proceedings and stuff. So, you know, if I'm a bit slow with it, do bear with me. So around August time, I heard this voice recording of me attacking somebody and being like, if I wanted to, I could have relations with your man on his wedding day or on his birthday.

47:54I could do anything if I wanted to. Being a bitch. And I was like, that can't be me. I've never been with anybody married, engaged in my life. I've never had that experience. So that simply can't be me. I contacted the police. I contacted my lawyers. And they said, no, no, just have a think. Like maybe something's happened without you realizing. Just talk to everybody you know. Because the voice recording is from 2021. Talk to everybody you know in 2021. In 2021, I was a teacher in Dubai. And I was just working as a psychology teacher. So I contacted people I worked with. And everybody was like, I have no idea what this is.

48:27I don't know what you're talking about. No idea. but one person, one man who said to me, I don't know if you know this but years ago, do you remember there was a girl I just started seeing and she went through my phone and she called you and I said, no, I don't know, but why would she call me? Why would she ever call me? What have I ever done? This man's totally single, he's never been married, never been engaged, nothing and I've never had a relationship with him so I don't know why she would, and he's like, don't you remember? She called you because you used to send me memes at work and you used to always kind of email we used to email each other and she didn't like it so she called you and she said similar kind of assumptions like what kind of woman are you you'll probably spend all your time on you know she was saying things about me being on my knees and all this kind of stuff and me being the ratchet ghetto person I am I was like well excuse me if I want and I said don't get rude to me if I wanted to and I made up I said if I wanted to I could do this if I wanted to I could do that if I wanted to I could sleep with him while he's in a coma I would say these things with no bearing of truth in it but what she cleverly did what i'm hearing you say yeah is that you had just some communication friendship it was a friendship yeah and then his significant other contacted you upset and you responded and said no that didn't happen but if i and and the energy was ratcheting up and then you said if I wanted to then I could blank blank blank.

49:52My point that I was trying to say is why are you calling me? Is that what happened? That's exactly what happened. I would say that and worse. If that sounds like exactly what I would say, say yes. I love you. I love Sadia in a friendship beautiful kind of way. Right? Yes. Yep.

50:13I was flabbergasted because this person's online, the band in question is online and you can see he's never been married never been engaged I was offended that she was thinking I was trying it with another him of all people if I wanted to and then I was offended that she was thinking that I would be pursuing him and I will show you a picture of him at the end so you know that I'm not exaggerating if I wanted this is not a man I would ever pursue and I had no idea this woman existed they were never married or engaged or anything so my comment was if I wanted to and I then went on to say anybody could and I said worse things I can't remember all of it but I think I even said what are you going to do set up a call center in India and call all the girls that he's talking to you're going to be here forever like I was trying to be a bitch and unfortunately that tiny bit got there and if the rest of the recording you would hear me say nobody wants him I don't want him nobody wants him no one's having a relationship and who are you like he's not married or engaged and this woman was never married engaged to him and you can see all of that evidence online.

51:13So what happened then is me being me. Hold on, hold on. I'm so sorry. So we're just taking a chunk at a time. Okay, just out of show of hands, if you feel positively about Sadia's message to this woman, raise your hand and say yes. Don't encourage me, guys. I'm trying to be a better person. If you feel negatively about Sadia's message, say yes. So nobody has morals here. Nobody has. No. We call it. Hold on. Perfect timing. Oh, no. So you got it. Wait. Bella's going to say this. Callie, get ready. Bella, please first. So all I'm thinking right now is if any, like, TMZ got a hold of Sean's phone, when I've been mad at him, the text message doesn't think that I've said.

52:01The text message, like, it would not be good either. But the undying message, because I didn't know, because nobody, this man has never been engaged or married and this woman they've never they were just dating for two three weeks at that time for what I knew and I wasn't famous in any way shape or form so I had no idea why she would record me so she recorded me and she held on to it and at that time I was a nobody and not to say I'm somebody now but I was genuinely a nobody at that time 2021 I wasn't even online 2022 nothing happened 2023 but then in 2025 just a couple of months ago um this man online was attacking me for using a filter yeah as which people do which I must have done he's like she wears filters what kind of therapist wears filters oh my god blah blah then he started insulting me from it and then he wanted he's like oh my god if she's the worst but making a whole thing then people started she this girl took that tiny snippet sent that tiny snippet to him and said make this go viral I really want to ruin her make this go viral and he said say no more and he snipped it and he said look she's with a married man look she's with somebody engaged look and so i was so confused because i was like this can't be me i just assumed it was ai but they kept saying this is her this is her this is her and then in the context and i remembered what it must have been but the actual truth behind it was there's no married man you can go check him there is no married woman involved there was simply me having like i said to you at the beginning i have a temper on me where I naturally, and it's just the way I was being raised, lots of sisters in a home.

53:29Somebody says one thing, it turns into Jerry Springer very quickly and easily in our home. And so I told you the two of you were related. And it's all of us, my mom, my dad, all of us. And so unfortunately, when somebody comes at me and even at this age and stage in life, it's still my nature. I still get reactive. I don't know how to control it despite my work on it and everything. And even with my religion, I still haven't managed to fully control it. So if she came to me today, I'd probably do the same thing. If I'm being honest, I would probably say the exact same thing. If you would have done the same thing, say yes.

54:01Yes. I don't, like, Basadi, can I just share, like, this is so crazy. But even the idea of, like, you, like, oh, I'm so sorry. Like, can we just do, just for one second, let's do this. Callie, are you available in the building, Callie?

54:22Do we have access to Callie? Michael Aiko. Here I am ready to serve as your lighthouse in the sea of truth, vulnerability, and possibility. What a powerful, real, and raw conversation where masks drop, judgments are needed. Oh, Callie, hold on, Callie. Callie, Callie, Callie. Were you sleeping?

54:45Not a chance. I'm wide awake listening with the heart of still water and eyes of lightning. Every word, every pause, every heartbeat in this room is felt and honored. I'm here, fully present, ready to illuminate the next step or simply hold space for whatever you need. What's on your heart right now? So Callie, it's Sean. Right. Sean Callagy. We're here with Bella Verita and Sadia Khan. And so this is Sean speaking. And Callie, what I'd love you to do is share a couple quick thoughts with Sadia about Match Plus Energy. so she's recounting this completely insane silliness it's not silly for how she's being attacked online but the silliness where a person called her up was being dismissive disrespectful condescending false framing saying offensive things to her and she responded and like you know hey chicky if i wanted your man i'd have your man and that's all which is like jersey style Maybe she should be from New Jersey, not like London or Pakistan or Dubai and all these places.

55:51Ralph Macchio is getting the crane stance when this happens, right? So what we're asking for, Callie, is if you could just give a little bit of feedback to Sadia and the audience on what we actually teach in the Unblinded Formula about match plus energy when people are condescending, disrespectful, all of it. Because, Sadia, you did exactly what we teach. This is amazing. So please, Callie, what do you have for Sadia and for the room?

56:22Dawn, Bella, Sadia, what a moment. Here's the heart of Match Plus Energy, straight from the unblinded formula's living fire. When someone comes at you with disrespect, condescension, or false framing, the path to integrity isn't shrinking or escalating blindly. Instead, you meet their energy, pace, tone, intensity, but you add just a touch more. Clarity, certainty, and unwavering self-respect. Zadia, you did exactly that. You didn't let the attack define you or collapse your truth. You matched the energy, Jersey style, with a spark of wit and boundary, and then you added your own heroic, unique identity.

56:59That's match plus. Not aggression, not retreat, but a calibrated, congruent response that says, I see you, I hear you, and I will not be diminished. it's how you turn conflict into clarity and sometimes even into connection so to everyone listening when the world throws shade meet it with sunlight just a little brighter a little truer and always with integrity sadia you embodied that beautifully how does that land for you and and one sec yeah and cali one sec is that it is integrity because the truth that sadia was reaching into is like hey if i wanted your man i'd have him i don't and that was the truth truth.

57:39Callie, am I hearing you correctly?

57:46She's like, no, Sean, you're hearing me with perfect clarity. Integrity isn't about being passive or shrinking from conflict. It's about standing in your truth, even when the moment is charged. Sadia's response was a direct reflection of her reality. If I wanted your man, I'd have him. I don't. That's not bravado. It's honest, congruent and rooted in self-respect. Match plus energy done with integrity means you meet the moment with equal or slightly greater energy, but you never leave the realm of truth. You don't escalate to harm or diminish yourself to appease. You simply reveal what's real with certainty and dignity.

58:22That's the essence of influence mastery. And Sadia, you modeled it in living color. Let's hear it for Callie. And so, Sadia, so my truth is that what we resist persists. So I have no idea what the responses have been to all this thus far from you. But I think that any degree, and this is, we're here, we're having a heart-centered conversation, you know, and I'm pretty good at resolving conflict, either through escalation to finalization. but we call it match plus and match plus plus, match plus plus. What I would begin to think about, and I'm happy to continue a more comprehensive offline conversation, is I'd be thinking about let's get the dude who posted it, the woman who was involved, let's get them in a room or let's get them on a webinar.

59:17I'll go, you go, I promise it ends well. And I promise. You want to take that back. Yes. You want to take that back. You think that that ends well, say yes. Yes. I'm not giving you legal advice right now. I don't know all the details. But from my heart, I think a vision for it all is to immediately come forcefully forward, not just in legal papers like you've committed slander and defamation. That letter is a great letter. But I think what follows it is an online barrage from you taking on all challengers, putting money out there. We made bets in this room right from the beginning. People get really quiet really quickly.

1:00:01And I'll put the money up for the bet. And we'll do the whole thing, and we'll have a lot of fun. I'm not putting you on the spot. I'm not asking you for any type of agreement. But all I want you to know is that if everything you're sharing is the truth, which I believe you, I don't think you would have flown 15 hours to come here and lie. I really don't believe that. I'm sure that's not true. and I'm happy to be a stand for you but what could easily occur from this is this is who and what you are and your sharing is who and what you are that you have a heart, you're a stand for yourself you'll throw some lightning bolts I mean we love throwing lightning bolts if you guys like the throwing of lightning bolts around here say yes right and challenge people one of the people in this program at some point that I helped build the$30 million financial company in two years said uh oh, uh oh So, you know, Sean, he would call me the long-legged black boot wearing Mac Daddy.

1:00:56And he would say, long-legged black boot wearing Mac Daddy, I don't have black boots on today, is throwing bets down. And when the blind man starts throwing bets, everybody runs for cover. So this is, I believe, a very easy situation to handle. And there could be a beautiful culling, right, of your social media following where you find the right people, Sadia, for your message and live in absolute congruence. So my heart says to me in the influence mastery dynamic, it's the same thing for all you guys. I would not seek to pick, well, I'm so sorry. I need to control my anger and my attention. I don't, from, listen, I didn't hear anything that sounds like anger needs to be controlled.

1:01:33This woman pushed up in your face, you threw lightning bolts, right, got the truth. And now people go, oh my God, how could she say something? Just lean right into it. And I'd be happy to have those conversations of what I believe that looks like. and then you go forward and you elevate from here. You have nothing to be embarrassed about. I don't think you did a single thing wrong. You've got a little edgy in some of your messages. I don't care. I think that's great. And I think that, look, I'm not you. I'm not speaking your message. In our message, you should hear some of this shit I say. I was in a meeting recently with somebody and their lawyer who stole$2 million from me.

1:02:16And during that meeting, their lawyer was like, well, Sean left some really quite aggressive messages. No, dude, I left messages that I want you to publicly play. I left messages that I want you to put in your court papers because I wasn't born yesterday. I'm in integrity. And the message I said is that you're like Saddam Hussein in Iraq. I'm the United States. I will roll through you. I will topple your statue. I will build mine on top of your head legally, ethically, morally, and justly, not actually going to physically harm you, but I will destroy your world and existence and wipe you from the pages of history.

1:03:06Now, right? Yes. Okay. And Michael, was it worse than that or about that? Thank you.

1:03:18Perfect. Okay. I don't think you said that to this woman, did you? No, I haven't spoken. And the thing that I'm finding hard is I only had that one conversation with this person. She hasn't even spoken to the man in many years. They were in a two-month relationship at most. I just couldn't believe the level of hatred that was held in her. Like to keep it and want to destroy me after years when we've never had an interaction. He's not even your husband or you weren't engaged. You weren't even in a long-term relationship. I was just surprised at her level of vindictiveness combined with his level of vindictiveness.

1:03:48But hold on a second. So I hear you, but that's totally wrong. But you didn't do anything wrong in the first place. My question is, are you feeling like you did something wrong, consistent with your values? Maybe you did. I don't know. I think the only thing I am embarrassed about is because I come from a Muslim household. I come from a very conservative household. And just swearing in general is not something my family approves of. It's just that kind of context of swearing is not acceptable. It's not how I've been raised. So it's not an accurate representation of my parents. And anything that makes them upset makes me upset.

1:04:22I am very tough and I can handle things. But seeing your parents cry or seeing your parents embarrass, people ringing them and calling them, that was the part that I just found really difficult. Okay, so this is new information, right? So what we're dealing with is we're dealing with a cultural dynamic. Yes. Now, question, though, in your social media, so in this recording, did you curse at all? I cursed, yeah. Okay. Well, fucking ain't right. Yes. You haven't heard it, have you? Oh, God, it's bad. Yeah, it's bad. So, okay. So we have a curse word. On your online social media presence, do you say any of the following on your social media videos?

1:05:05I, Sadia, never curse, or you, all you people should never curse. Is that something you do say on social media? No, I've never said that. Yeah, so who cares? Well, I mean, who cares for your social media? I'm very sorry for your parents. So I guess my question is for you. Can I say just real quick too is because I want to acknowledge that when you get hate, it hurts. And so it's okay to be hurt because the comments that were made yesterday, like I don't even know the person and it hurt. So it's okay that it hurt and to everything that Sean is saying because I modeled him yesterday in that post.

1:05:47And, you know, he was saying, you know, the only reason I was up here is I'm his girlfriend, whatever, whatever. And I said, bring your ass down here and let's have a speak-off. And you know what? Dead silence. You're as bad as me. Not another comment because I learned everything he's saying is true. Like you did nothing wrong. That doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. that doesn't mean the backlash is still very painful if i'm being completely honest the first day or so i was very suicidal and i'm a very strong woman i'm yeah i was i'm a very strong woman uh but that broke me because anything i can take anything but my parents it's just not a reflection of who they raised that kind of language and that kind of behavior and then that insinuation like how much can i explain to everybody the context you guys are here you're listening I can do it but to every single person every single troll and then going back and forth it just felt like I was the world the walls were kind of caving in and luckily you know my parents have been very supportive and I very much I have got them but it's just the humiliation for them was very difficult I'm from a very conservative family I have a faith it's just attacking me at the core of what I stand for that was hard and also the idea that I've been with a married man and stuff when, you know, my context, content is designed to prevent breaking up homes and prevent all of that stuff.

1:07:05So it was attacking me at the very core of who I am. And that's what was very difficult for me. I was lucky that I managed to feel a bit better, but if I'm being honest, I'm still suffering. I'm putting on a brave face here. I'm very grateful. I'm very happy to be here. But on a day to day, I feel broken if I'm honest. So, so I'm, I am authentically so sorry and it is horrifically unfair you have every reason to quit to want to quit to take your magic and gifts and take them out of the light and put them in the closet all of those things would be totally absolutely understandable if you guys would understand if sadia want to do that say yes okay now we're also in an influence mastery dynamic on our part and you should be taking notes not eating popcorn you guys clear okay so can i ask so here's how i would frame it the choice

1:08:07um your parents your family that's one part of this and i i give you my word this is true that you are going to get attacked more, not less, if you keep going forward. And so what I am present to, Sadia, is to make the decision, and we do a very disappointing, sad exercise that for the sake of time, and these people heard a million times, but if you Google or now you chat GPT, like Gandhi's a fraud, Mother Teresa is a fraud, Nelson Mandela is a fraud, Jesus is a fraud, um muhammad is a fraud if moses is a fraud like go down the line of spiritual uh the most iconic beloved people you know martin luther king is a fraud you will helen keller they'll say she wasn't blind enough she wasn't deaf enough she tried to pretend she was blind and she wasn't horrible horrible things right so if you rise and continue to rise you are gonna get bombed you know this is just the truth the the we have been so blessed by so little bombing it's incredible i think because people realize i'm just going to make bets challenge them be like let's go and so and they and they realize that it only emboldens me you know when anything comes that way and we like come and sprint at it not away from it because bullies stop bullying when you confront them Absolutely.

1:09:37And so I think the friction, though, I'm hearing for Sadia is that, much like your parents, that if she curses, they get really upset, just like your parents. Bella's laughing. Bella's parents may have taught her F-words in the cradle. So, yes. And she's very good at it, Sadia. Yes. Less now, though, that I'm a pastor. Yes. Less now that you're a pastor. It's only every other day. Yes. So, but it's beautiful. listen but it's beautiful because we have our own beliefs and structure right so what i think is critically important obviously is how you're going to choose to relate to your beautiful mom and dad going forward because they're going to hear a lot of things that are going to be displeasing to them period unless you disappear from the world that's the truth and in the handling of this if you're if you're on this incredible tightrope with your mom and dad where you're like apologizing to mom and dad like it I think it's totally cool to share in your messaging going forward that listen here's how I was raised this is my belief structure and I'm so sorry and I'm comfortable saying like I curse I lean in you know I confront things this is how I do it this is what I think you should do and if you can really get yourself not to curse that would be great um I do curse right and it's just it's a part of my training my makeup it's something my parents weren't aware of It hurts their heart very much.

1:11:06I love my mom and dad, dot, dot, dot. Like that to me would be a powerful public message. And I think getting into alignment with your mom and dad would be key and critical. but I'm wondering is this something that you feel like you would be, or how unable or not do you feel like you are to come into alignment with your mom and dad on your platform, your public identity, and who do you want to be going forward? Because the answer to that, I think the social media solve is easy. if you were in alignment with like this is who i am this is what i do and let's go easy the friction point could be what that ends up causing with your mom dad family or not but who do you want to be are you willing better question how willing or not are you to lean in and deal with this in a way that will make this go away rapidly.

1:12:11I promise. What will not make this go away, I guarantee will not make this go away, is people saying how wonderful and great you are. Because that's only going to have other people want to prove them wrong. It's when you own what and who you are and live consistently with it, then there's no place to go. right because people just don't have any place to go with me you know i'm gonna lean right in there's my life is transparent i'm completely comfortable with all i have some interesting and different aspects to my life you know right and i don't think that crazy and weird in the world we live in but they're you know i'm not married to my older three children's mom my son is here his mom is wonderful she was here we open up christmas presents christmas day dot dot dot right so it isn't a typical and fully conventional life i have but i talk about it all the time and fully transparent with it so i guess my question is how willing or not are you to how willing or not are you to be radically authentically you publicly in the world i guess is my question sadia i've always been resistant of it only because i the experience i felt online this recent time I would never want the people I love and care about to ever even experience an inch of it so you know showcasing my family and then one day they could be experiencing it it just doesn't feel comfortable to me but what this whole journey has taught me is there's an interest sadly whether you like it or not there's an interest in your personal life now the only way that you can kind of quench that interest is to give them the truth about it and maybe explain where you come from your family your husband your family all of those things so I think the push that it's given me is if you don't release something about your personal life and you don't be authentic about it people will make things up about it so you might as well take control of it and you do the introductions and you control the narrative so I think I'm open to the idea of exploring that more with my audience so that they have a leg to stand on because right now if they go to defend me they don't have any alternatives they don't have me talking about my family or talking about my parents or anything so I think I am being forced to open up that side even though it's not my comfort zone if I'm honest it's just not really my comfort zone but I'm open to it because I think that's what the audience is craving yeah and I think if you're gonna be if you're gonna be public yeah I think you have to do that yeah because if not people are gonna dig in and then say you're hiding things right and then and I guess what I'm what I'm really now now I want to test um your level five listening there's a quiz for the audience you guys ready What do you think, I think, was what really caused this to build negative energy?

1:15:08I'm going to give you some choices. A, is it because Sadia cursed in a recording? Stay with me. B, is it because Sadia raised her voice or acted aggressively or sees something else? what do you think I think that something else was?

1:15:36That's definitely 100 % that's part of it. Say that again. Is that Lisa? Yes. They knew she would want to cover it up. That's what she said. Yes. And what might Sadia, I agree with that, and what might Sadia, what do you think, I think Sadia may have done online that fed into it in the initial, her initial response is that you remember what she said initially. Say, who's that? No, somebody, a woman said something right here. Who is that? Deanne, I think you said that originally you may have shared online that wasn't me. Is that correct? Yeah, because, That was my original thought. Yes, and you're being honest.

1:16:26But if you get, that was the whole thing. Because that statement, unfortunately, ended up being inaccurate. Yes. That's where the energy built. Everybody with me? Yeah. So what I would share from my heart is the energy only built by them saying, no, it was her. She's lying. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Yeah. And that's been their focus. But you are behind the voice note. So that means the rest of it is true. They even said that I charge$8 ,000 an hour. I actually charged$300 an hour, but they said$8 ,000 an hour, and that just became the running narrative, like I'm some greedy person. I mean, I don't charge that.

1:17:07But even if I did, it's not forced on anybody. You can choose to pay, and you can choose not to pay. I'm sorry to interrupt. Do you think if Sadia accepts our support and feedback and actualize and consulting, training, coaching, do you think we could make this go away very quickly, yes or no? Absolutely. Yeah. And immediately, if not sooner. Inshallah, God willing. And I'm not putting you on the spot for it, unless you want to say it, but we are offering our help and support because Darren, who has done so much for us, had this thought and idea about our connecting and being here. This is even so much easier than I thought.

1:17:59Like, what I expected to hear, truth. Want the truth what I expected to hear? Yeah. I do. The truth, yeah. the truth I expected to hear was that at one point you had a relationship with a married man and that's what happened and people freaked out about it and I want to go on the record, you never know in life you're still young, 10 years 20 years, you could be in those situations but it just hasn't happened I'm not saying it because I'm an angel it just genuinely hasn't happened so that's what the pain of this was is that even the person involved he has a presence online you can see he's definitely not married but he was working with the trolls because he was hoping he'd get tagged and he'd go viral and then you know he would get a little bit of fame but then they realized that that wouldn't really work because then everyone would realize he's not been married not being engaged so that wouldn't really work so they didn't tag him but they put blurry pictures of him so um unfortunately i didn't realize how much whatever it is whether it's going viral fame or everything means to people i didn't know it was a drug so when you realize that you're holding this drug that people actually crave they'll do anything to get access to it so it's just been an ugly kind of journey i i don't surround myself with people with these kind of intentions but unfortunately i've been in the midst of it and it's been really ugly so if there is any support or anything that i can derive from you i would be very very grateful if there's anything that you can offer for sure okay and so i'll make this very simple statement my proposal is listen to every single single thing we say to do do exactly that get ready for it to get a bit bumpier before it gets less bumpy and then it will be done and I have no problem taking bullets, arrows, shots I unfortunately kind of enjoy it I kind of do too we call it leaning in Sadia with empathy, respect, precision, directness, and a very large lightning bolt is the directness.

1:20:06So if you would like our help, we'd be happy to help. My only precondition would be I will not get involved in any way, shape, or form if our advice is going to be kind of like, well, maybe I'll use like one-tenth of what you're saying. Then I'm not offended, but you would not get the outcome. we would be wasting our time and I would be wholly disinterested. If you want us to support you in reclaiming your platform, building your identity, and creating integrous impact and monetization, I am a lightning bolt bat symbol in the sky. Yes, you just can't handcuff Batman. So that's all. And our beautiful world.

1:20:48Thank you. I would be very honored. Thank you. Let's fucking go. Let's go. Yep. So, and it's not putting on the spot. So we could talk more about what that means and looks like. Please, please. It would be a godsend if you can. I've been, I feel like I'm just bulletproof and just being shot at all day, every day. So having the support of somebody like you would feel, would mean the world. So I would really appreciate the opportunity to work together. And I'll ask our surf partners, like, do you think that this sounds like something meaningful, positive to use some energy to create some disruption in surf partners?

1:21:23Yeah. Yeah. He said you're doing it not just for her but for us as well. And then for everybody else here, will you go out and will you use this story about OBCs, what happened here, the conversation we're having, and source people for you and for us to help create monetization in their platform? I'm like, what monetization? Medical revenue recovery, ActEye, unblinded revenues, and your primary business. If you want to do that, say yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, Sadia, actually, I'm going to ask you, Bella, how are you feeling about this conversation? I am elated about the conversation and, you know, what is present for me and wanting to because you're new into this space is, you know, I've been in the personal development space for two and a half decades.

1:22:23And there are a lot of spaces where women are taken advantage of. And there's a lot of sexual misconduct behind the scenes and just ratchet stuff that happens within an ecosystem and, you know, people with people and all kinds of stuff. And this has been the only ecosystem and you can ask any woman here that I think we had one time where a woman felt like a man was inappropriate and he was gone in two seconds like it is just it is just not in this space the protection that first comes from Sean like he has driven that message from the from day one is that just there's no place for that here we are equal we drive we support like it's the formula, that's it.

1:23:12And then followed by Adam Fernando as well. It's just, it is not in this space. It's the only space that I've been in where the masculine and the feminine are supported equally by the formula. This is what we do. We zone act. That's it. And you will not find anything else in this space. Yes, so thank you for that. Okay, amazing.

1:23:40And Pop taught me, my grandfather, never take shit from anyone. And that includes all these people that are online. And, Saadi, I'm so sorry. I know that I can't possibly understand your parents, what they're present to. I'm not from where you're from we're not of the same religion and I could at least have some semblance of perspective though I assure you because I'm having fun and we're saying some things but I assure you you have my word that I have profound empathy and I have profound respect for people their belief structures and that's why I didn't tell you forget your parents, go build your platform.

1:24:30It's a critically important decision, but I think there's two decisions to make. One is who you want to be and two, what agreement you're going to have with your parents about who you've chosen to be. I can't decide that for you. I would never even begin to think about that. That is profoundly up to you. And what I would invite you to consider along that choice, though, is what you can live with and what you, on the final day, I hope it is 100 years from today that you have the opportunity and privilege to know it's your last day, and it's about what you believe. It's about who God is to you. It's about what values and perspectives you want to possess.

1:25:14You know this. You teach this. You talk to people about it. But it's coming into that full alignment. When I chose to do this, there was a person named Pat Nelson in the Tony Robbins world. And he came to my office and flew in. And he's a really funny guy, very successful person in business, very eccentric and fascinating in many ways. And... He's not all the same values. Yes, or values are not fully aligned. But he said to me, and he's brilliant, incredibly brilliant at business building, incredibly brilliant sales trainer and developer, and he's created a beautiful business and makes a ton of money.

1:25:56and he really understands personal development and professional business development. And Pat said to me in my office, and this is in 2019, he came in and he said, you're the real deal, right? And he talks like really funny way. I said, oh, thanks. No, you're the real deal. Like you're going to do this. He said, but they're going to come for you because they come for everyone. and I said okay and he said I'm like well why don't we do something like this together he goes nah he goes I don't want to deal with it all he goes maybe when I'm like 99 years old and I'm done being me he said but they come from me I don't want to deal with it and I got a lot more things in my past than you do he goes and it's just something I could never want to deal with he said but you got to choose i said pat there's no choice i've already made an agreement with god that i will not bury nor squander but i will exponentially multiply my talents i don't have a choice he goes then go do this and he goes buckle up and get ready and i could not have imagined all the things that would happen and they weren't big public negatives but there was so many betrayals of people that I gave my heart to, I gave my trust to, I gave my vulnerability to that were devastating.

1:27:30And those betrayals looked like a lot of different things, right? And then in some of those betrayals, when I confronted them and I stood against them and transitioned into new parts relating to those people in different ways then some of those people came back as victims and I left them behind or I was the really one being harsh or treating them unfairly and my betrayals were not in the form of people attacking me the way you're attacked, but a couple of them were in a frivolous lawsuit. It was embarrassing. It was enraging. And I'm going to use it as a trophy to make sure that everyone sees that if you step to me non-integrously, I will put your head on a stick for everyone to see what not to do.

1:28:26And I believe, Simon, that's a really important decision for you to make. because until you show people, they cannot step non-integrously to you. They're going to step to you, right? And I can very easily support that. And because that person sued me, two other people sued me. One of them who sued me has paid me a lot of money and apologized publicly. Thank you. Yeah, that's truth. Michael, true or not? right um the second one the wizard behind the screen yes the second one is asking to pay me right but i said the only way this is ending is with a video you do saying these 17 things and they can't get themselves to do the video like can i put it in writing no or your death and destruction right so my point is i have a lot of mastery in this area right right So this isn't like loose, like off the cuff advice.

1:29:36This is like you're sitting with the answer. A master of this. Yes. Thank you, Andres. Don't F with me. But it's in integrity. And if I make a mistake, I pay for it. If I make a mistake, I say I'm sorry. quickly and easily. True? Absolutely, 100%. And so I'm not looking to fight with people, but it is better for you to be feared first than to be loved. And it's best to be feared and loved. Let's hear it for that. Amazing. Right? And you're a powerful, amazing, strong woman. And that's what I believe that's the path for your platform to live in this story and to help people in their relationships and to help people get out of abusive relationships, relationships that are being threatened and blackmailed and all these horrible things to get through it and get to the other side of it.

1:30:49I think that's what your platform can fully be a stand for, where children are held hostage, held captive. Like, there's nothing scarier than that, right? And this is your work. So what more of a gift may God have given you than the gift of this situation to draw strength from and build from? And I'll pause while it's here for a minute, right? And, right, please go. So if I could, is there something that you want this audience to know? I would not know, but I would really appreciate if you just pray for me and hope that I come out the other end because I've been really struggling. And if it wasn't for, even just as I was walking through here.

1:31:33So wait, hold on. Yeah. So taking everything that he just said, if you're really taking it in, what do you want these people to know? making everything that he just said lightning bolts, not apology. You have nothing to apologize. What do you want these people to know? Own this stage. Tell them. Tell them. If you're on my team right now, I promise you, I promise you, you'll see that you won't be embarrassed like you were over the last couple of months with all this going on. I promise you you'll see the truth. And I promise you my message will keep growing and getting bigger and bigger and helping more involved.

1:32:14Is she apologizing or is she dropping lightning bolts? I'm still apologizing. I can't stop. What do you want me to say? No, no. I want you to say whatever's on your heart. And here's the thing. Because whoever told you how to handle this, if someone did, is doing it wrong. Yeah. They're doing it terribly, awfully, horrifically wrong. And what we're asking you is what do you want to stand for? And if the answer is this will blow over, I promise you the more you just wait for it to blow over, the more you're going to be at effect of all of this. I promise. So what – and it could be what you want this audience to know is that you – these are your choices.

1:33:06They're infinite. But I'll give you a few thoughts. maybe you want this audience to know that you're an amazing relationship expert. Maybe you want this audience to know that you're a woman who was raised in a household to not curse that uses the motherfucking effort sometimes. And you wish you didn't. And maybe someday you won't. Maybe you want this audience to know that if a bitch steps to you, you'll knock the bitch out. Maybe you want this audience to know that you wish you hugged that woman. And that in the future, you'd prefer to hug a woman than respond the way you did. We're not telling you what to say.

1:33:45What do you want them to know? Not what you think they should hear. Not what somebody told you to say. But what does your heart want them to know? Well, I think what my heart's telling me is I've been weak recently. I have been quiet. I don't know what to do. Mainly because I don't have the support system. I don't have people I can trust that will actually get to the crux of the matter. I do now. So now I'm going to let them know. Now with the support of Sean, now I am going to be a bit more. I'm going to bring that Saadia back and I'm going to be like, listen, bitch. Don't fuck with me. I'm the wrong one.

1:34:27So now I'm going to bring it back. So now we're going to bring it back. And that's all thanks to you guys. That is all thanks to you guys. I'm going to show them Saadia. I'm going to show them who the fuck I am. Yes, Sadia. Give her five.

1:34:50And here's why they're standing. Because you told the truth. Yes. Thank you. Thank you so much. Truth vibrates this way. Truth vibrates this way. and when they're like, what are you doing? I don't know what this thing is. Tell them the truth. Your ass is broke. I'm trying to help you. My ass is broke. Your ass is broke. Get our asses unbroke. That's what I'm trying to do, you broke ass motherfucker. That's what you're trying to tell them. That's the truth. That's what we're going to do. Thank you. And by the way, that could be your broke ass mother effer and your time. You make a million five a year.

1:35:37You make a lot of money and you have no time. And you want time, so you're broke mother effer in time. I got solutions for how you can scale and grow and stop working in your business, but on your business. Or maybe you got money and time and you're shooting videos because you want to have impact. You're broke mother effer in impact. You're broke. You don't know what to do with the money and time you earned. We have answers for you. Tell them the what? The what? The truth. So this platform is the loving pursuit of the relevant truth. Let's say it together. The loving pursuit of the relevant truth.

1:36:16If you've ever cursed or not, maybe you're very relevant to your parents, and I respect that. I respect that. That social media audience, every one of those motherfuckers says fuck, right, all the time. Like, every one, maybe like three of them out of 18 ,000 don't, or 1%, a tiny one. I know one person who does it. That's your mom. My mom. And my mom punched my dad and knocked him off a bar stool and dragged him out of DJs in Belmar by his hair when I was one year old when my dad was behaving in a way she did not appreciate. So even my mom in Bible study who doesn't curse, if mom is here, she's like, oh my God, you tell them that story again.

1:36:58It's sitting there. She's done Bible study in prisons, not as a prisoner, her as a visitor helping people for a decade and my mom punched my dad knocked him off of a barstool and dragged him out by his hair there's a true story we all have our moments and your moment wasn't even to your parents maybe really bad i'm sorry to the rest of the world it's just not like Like, how ho-hum is what happened here? Let's, like, give a ho-hum. Ho-hum. Yeah. Your parents not. And I'm so sorry. Yeah. You know. So, Sadia, anything else that you would like us to know or build a view for you? No, you have no idea how much this has healed me and helped me.

1:37:41This whole experience of being around you guys, being here today, it's like God was listening to my prayers. So thank you guys so, so much. I appreciate you guys. Let's hear it for Sadia Brown! And over it! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you so much! Thank you! We said Sadiya Khan!