In short
Dodge Woodall recounts risking his family home to fund an early sport and music festival after investors demanded full upfront payment and ticket sales wouldn’t come via credit cards. He says the festival ultimately cost about £300k (not the expected £100k), and when cash ran out he and his wife Fleur faced remortgaging their house as the only option.
Guest backgrounds
Dodge Woodall is a festival promoter/entrepreneur; Fleur previously worked at JP Morgan and is described as risk-averse, from Wales.
Key claims
“Take calculated risk” (his was “zero calculation”); desperation drove him to promise major media acts and deliver.
Notable examples
he printed flyers claiming Sky TV and BBC would attend; he built the site (marquees, showers, toilets, fencing, DJs, security, police/fire, airport coordination) with minimal staff.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOA Risky Conversation
0:45 to 2:20
Dodge shares his challenging conversation with his wife about remortgaging their home to fund a festival.
“You know, listen out there, don't do a festival and then put a wedding on two weeks later, three weeks later.”
Festival Planning Chaos
2:20 to 3:56
Dodge recounts the overwhelming preparations and pressures of launching the festival.
“me saying it but she was crying in bed for five nights a week before we went to sleep about the risk we've just taken because no one would buy with a credit card back then tickets.”
The Pressure to Deliver
3:56 to 4:16
He reflects on the pressure he felt to fulfill his promises during the festival's launch.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00So running out of money, it was a conversation where I told my wife about sitting down saying, look, the only option we got because no one's going to loan you money right now, the only option we got is remortgaging our family house.
0:16Try having that conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how did it go? What, the conversation? The conversation. Yeah, the conversation was a, was a, the conversation was a cards on the table conversation. Yeah. And my wife, who, it was our anniversary yesterday for 16 years. Oh, congrats. Yeah, from 2008 after that conversation. We got married that year. We got married two weeks after the first festival, by the way, which again, Wow. You know, listen out there, don't do a festival and then put a wedding on two weeks later, three weeks later. It's just madness to do that. but anyway yeah the conversation I was like Fleur like we'll walk away for 100 grand because everyone wanted their money up front I was thinking in my being really naive you know we're talking 17 years ago I was thinking well I'm going to get all the money in after the festival I'm going to pay everyone yeah all of a sudden in January before the festival in May everyone wanted the money so we're like no no no we'll pay you after so we paid all the money and there was still a shed load of bills to come in yeah you know I was thinking it was going to cost roughly 100 grand but it ended up costing 300 grand so and I didn't know that until we got to the festival anyway I had the conversation with Fleur I was like the only option we got is to remortgage the house and she's not a risk taker and I love risk and back then I was quite ballsy and she's a beautiful woman who grew up in Wales in the hills and everything's just nice you know just peace and what have you and obviously we've been only together for sort of five years before that she's about to marry a promoter who loves risk so it's like it was like you know to end and I guess that's why it works she reigns me in anyways we we had this conversation deep conversation and she was like I'll just fully back you but which is unbelievable for her to do that but and I hope you don't mind me saying it but she was crying in bed for five nights a week before we went to sleep about the risk we've just taken because no one would buy with a credit card back then tickets.
2:32Back then, it was all flying and postering. Back then, we're risking our family house and if people don't turn up on the day to give you cash to pay the... Like it was... It's madness looking back at it now. Yeah. It really is madness and I say to a lot of people, I'll say to other entrepreneurs, take calculated risk. that was no calculation that was zero calculation that was crazy really did that first year did you get the sigh of relief of oh it's worked in year one yeah I got the I got the feeling oh my god people are turned up because you build a festival site you know you've got to put up the marquees you've got to put up the showers the toilets the fencing the DJs the the security the police the fire brigade the airports next door you're dealing with them and I had no staff so I was juggling and all of this I had one like Fleur left her job at JP Morgan just to help out to do some emails because I didn't do emails I don't use a computer so it was like I took on way too much took on way too much but I was selling the dream of a sport and music festival I was putting on flyers Sky TV are going to be there I was putting on flyers that I was putting so much pressure on myself that I had to make it work and I had to like going back to thinking if I say I'm going to do something I'll do it and I printed it all and say I was going to do all this stuff I was like shit I'm going to have to do all this you know I said Sky TV I said the BBC I made all this stuff up like do you know what I mean like all this entertainment I had to follow through and I followed through and I got them there you know when you're in desperate times you do stuff to make shit happen you know so you were like I'm going to say it and I'll make it happen yeah I've committed I've shook hands I've committed this is going to happen
From the publisher
In this throwback clip, Dodge Woodall relives the moment everything was on the line. With no money left and his first festival approaching fast, he sat his wife down and told her the only option was to remortgage their family home.
There was no backup plan. No safety net. Just a house, a dream, and the risk of losing everything if people did not turn up.
Dodge describes the fear in the room, the emotional weight of that conversation, and the nights his wife lay awake worrying about the gamble they had taken. Looking back, he admits it was not a calculated risk. It was pure belief, pressure, and a decision that could have ended very differently.
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