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Episode Title
Iran Is Trying to Choke Off Traffic in the Strait of Hormuz
Episode Date
March 11, 2023
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Overview
In this episode, host Alex Ossola discusses critical developments surrounding the Strait of Hormuz, particularly the impact of Iranian actions on shipping and oil prices. The episode features insights from WSJ Middle East correspondent Jared Malsin and investing columnist Spencer Jakab.
Key Topics
- Iran's Military Actions
- Incident Overview: Three commercial ships were hit near the Strait of Hormuz, raising concerns over the security of this vital shipping route for oil.
- Iran's Stance: Iranian armed forces declared they would not allow any oil to pass through the strait for the benefit of the U.S. and its allies.
- U.S. Military Response
- Military Escorts: The Trump administration has turned down requests for military escorts for oil tankers due to safety concerns.
- Risk Assessment: U.S. defense officials assess that sending military personnel into the strait poses a significant risk because of Iran’s missile and drone capabilities.
- Economic Impact of Conflict
- Inflation Rate: U.S. inflation held steady at 2.4% in February, but these figures do not reflect the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.
- Potential Price Increases: If the conflict continues, it could lead to increased prices for energy and food, as it affects global supply chains, including fertilizer for agriculture.
- Federal Reserve's Response: The Fed may respond cautiously to commodity price shocks, having learned from past mistakes in the 1970s.
- International Energy Agency (IEA) Actions
- Oil Reserve Release: In response to the crisis, the IEA has agreed to release 400 million barrels of oil from emergency stockpiles to stabilize prices.
- U.S. Domestic Politics and Tax Proposals
- Democratic Tax Plans: Democratic senators, including Chris Van Hollen and Cory Booker, propose tax cuts for low to moderate-income earners to respond to economic concerns.
- Budget Neutrality: These plans include potential tax increases on corporations and high-income individuals to offset the cost of tax cuts.
- Corporate Responses
- McDonald’s Value Menu: McDonald's is launching a new value menu to address consumer concerns about affordability amid rising living costs.
- Target Boycott: The episode discusses the ending of a shopper boycott against Target, which was initiated due to the company scaling back its DEI policies.
Key Takeaways
- Geopolitical Tensions: The conflict in the Middle East is significantly impacting global oil prices and could have broader economic implications if it persists.
- Military Caution: The U.S. is prioritizing safety over military involvement in the Strait of Hormuz, reflecting caution in its foreign policy.
- Domestic Economic Policies: Proposed tax cuts by Democrats aim to address immediate voter concerns about financial strain due to inflation and rising costs.
- Corporate Strategies: Companies like McDonald's are adapting their pricing strategies in response to consumer affordability concerns in a changing economic landscape.
Conclusion
This episode highlights the interconnectedness of geopolitical events, economic data, and domestic political strategies, emphasizing the importance of monitoring developments in the Strait of Hormuz as they unfold.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMarket Conditions Amid Conflict
0:34 to 1:03
Discussion on inflation and its implications after U.S.-Israel actions against Iran.
“military isn't helping oil tankers get through the Strait of Hormuz.”
Economic Impact of Middle East Conflict
1:03 to 3:30
Insights from Spencer Jacob on the effects of ongoing Middle East conflict on prices.
“I'm Alex Osalev for The Wall Street Journal.”
Strait of Hormuz and Oil Supply
3:30 to 7:03
Analysis of the situation in the Strait of Hormuz and its effects on global oil supply.
“This morning, we told you the International Energy Agency was proposing a record release of oil reserves to try to bring down crude prices.”
Democrats' Tax Strategies for 2024
7:03 to 10:46
Exploration of tax cut proposals by Democratic senators to appeal to voters.
“Financial shares fell, putting pressure on the Dow, which dropped 0.6%.”
Corporate and Legal Developments
10:46 to 12:18
Updates on corporate strategies and legal actions by the Trump administration.
“And a shopper boycott against Target that has hurt its sales may be ending.”
Transcript
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0:33Jared Malsin:Inflation held steady in February, but the bigger question is what comes next? Plus, why the U.S. military isn't helping oil tankers get through the Strait of Hormuz.
0:44Spencer Jakab:What American defense officials are looking at is saying, like, if we send our people in there, they're going to be in the line of fire themselves. It's not safe for them either. So that's why they're not currently offering that to the oil or shipping industries.
0:57Jared Malsin:And Democrats are pitching tax cuts for millions of Americans to try to win over voters. It's Wednesday, March 11th. I'm Alex Osalev for The Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today.
1:18Jared Malsin:A new report out today from the Labor Department showed that consumer prices rose 2.4 percent in February from a year earlier. That's the same pace as in January and pretty much what economists expected. But these numbers are from before the U.S. and Israel attacked Iran, and the war threatens to raise a lot of prices. WSJ investing columnist Spencer Jacob joins us now to discuss the question on everyone's mind. Just what can February's numbers tell us? Spencer, under normal circumstances, these numbers would have been a key reading on what prices are doing. How does the Middle East war change that?
1:52Spencer Jakab:Well, yes, it changes it a lot. It's a bit like saying, you know, other than that, how did you like to play Mrs. Lincoln? I mean, there's a big, big thing that's happened since these numbers were compiled for February. This war, if it lasts a long time, will have an impact not just on energy prices, but on food prices because it affects a lot of the world's fertilizer supply, a lot of just transport generally in the world. What does the Fed do when you have a big energy price shock? Well, they're kind of scarred by the memories of the 1970s when they tried to initially cut the economy back into health, which turned out to be a mistake.
2:30Spencer Jakab:And really, the answer central bankers have for this is to do nothing. You know, unless there's a very severe recession or the war creates other recessionary effects, they tend not to try to use monetary policy to deal with a commodity price shock.
2:46Jared Malsin:So as the conflict continues, what are some of the numbers that you're going to be keeping an eye on just to gauge a bit of the economic impact?
2:55Spencer Jakab:One thing to look at is what's happening in the real world to prices. For example, gasoline prices, those are already up substantially. And those have a big effect, especially on middle and working class households, you know, spend a lot of money on gasoline in the United States. But also psychologically, it's a price that everyone knows. It's a price everyone sees. if the price of milk and bread and things like that start to go up as well, which they could. Those are the ones that people get angry about and are aware of, and it affects their behavior in other ways. It affects their propensity to spend, for example.
3:27Jared Malsin:That was WSJ Investing columnist Spencer Jacob. Thanks, Spencer.
3:31Spencer Jakab:Thank you.
3:35Jared Malsin:This morning, we told you the International Energy Agency was proposing a record release of oil reserves to try to bring down crude prices. The IEA has now agreed to do so, and its member countries will release 400 million barrels of oil from emergency stockpiles.
3:50Spencer Jakab:This is a major action aiming to alleviate the immediate impacts of the disruption in markets. But to be clear, the most important thing for a return to stable flows of oil and gas is the resumption of transit through the state of Hormuz.
4:12Jared Malsin:That was the IEA's executive director, Fatih Birol, speaking this morning. Meanwhile, the Strait of Hormuz, that critical shipping lane for the world's oil supply, is still effectively closed. Today, three commercial ships were hit around the Strait. The spokesman for Iran's armed forces said the country wouldn't let, quote, a single liter of oil pass through the Strait for the benefit of the U.S. and its allies. President Trump said today that oil companies should use the Strait. However, they're not likely to do so until it's safe. I'm joined now by WSJ Middle East correspondent Jared Malson.
4:46Jared Malsin:Jared, the president suggested that there will be military escorts to help ships cross the strait, but the journal's reporting that the U.S. military has turned down requests to escort ships through the strait. Why is that?
4:58Spencer Jakab:So the administration wants to calm the oil markets down. They're under a lot of pressure to do that right now because of the surge in oil prices. So the Trump administration has said it is prepared to offer military escorts for ships if necessary and when the conditions are right. The conditional phrases on that statement are very important here because what we understand from our reporting is that the Department of Defense and the military are not currently planning to escort any ships until it is safe to do that. The Iranians are attacking ships in the strait. And what we understand from our reporting from U.S.
5:40Spencer Jakab:officials is that they do not want to send the Navy in to escort any ships as long as that is still a very real risk. Iran still has the capability to strike using missiles, drones to mine the strait. It's just very dangerous for any ships to go through there.
5:58Jared Malsin:What are the conditions in the strait that make this so challenging?
6:01Spencer Jakab:So it's a very narrow strait. It's somewhere in the range of 24 miles wide, meaning the Iranian coast is very close by. And what one former Navy official told me is that when it comes to the missiles and drones that the Iranians could potentially fire, the U.S. or Allied Navy personnel that would be there would potentially only have seconds to respond to those. One of the analysts my colleague spoke to compared it to a kill box, essentially. And so what American defense officials are looking at is saying, like, if we send our people in there, they're going to be in the line of fire themselves.
6:38Spencer Jakab:It's not safe for them either. So that's why they're not currently offering that to the oil or shipping industries.
6:45Jared Malsin:What would it take to reopen the strait?
6:48Spencer Jakab:And what analysts have been telling me is that only a ceasefire, along with some kind of explicit assurances from the Iranians that they're going to stop shooting at these ships, that's the only thing that would really restore shipping through the strait.
7:02Jared Malsin:That was WSJ reporter Jared Moussen. Thanks, Jared.
7:06Spencer Jakab:Thank you.
7:07Jared Malsin:U.S. stocks were mixed today. Financial shares fell, putting pressure on the Dow, which dropped 0.6%. The S &P 500 ended slightly lower, while the Nasdaq ticked higher. Oil prices kept rising, with Brent crude, the global benchmark, closing up nearly 5 percent. We want to know how volatile energy prices are affecting you or your business. Let us know by sending a voice note to wnpod at wsj.com or leave us a voicemail at 212-416-4328. Make sure to include your full name and location so we can use your comments on the show. Coming up, everyone from Democratic lawmakers to McDonald's is trying to win over people watching their wallets.
7:48Jared Malsin:We'll get into how they're doing it after the break.
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8:31Jared Malsin:Democrats are out of power, and they're looking for ways to get the attention of voters who are worried about their finances. So senators are coming up with plans that would get rid of federal income taxes for millions of people. Maryland Senator Chris Van Hollen is preparing a proposal to end income taxes for people making under$46 ,000 and married couples making under$92 ,000. And New Jersey Senator Cory Booker's pitch would more than double the standard deduction while increasing the child and earned income tax credits. WSJ tax policy reporter Richard Rubin says the plans are an effort to win over voters.
9:06Spencer Jakab:What Senator Booker and Senator Van Hollen are doing is trying to address the concern that lots of voters have about the cost of living. And they see a tax cut as a quick, easy to understand way to do it. We shouldn't sort of underestimate the power of simplicity. We saw in the 2024 campaign how President Trump talked about no tax on this, no tax on that. It's a bumper sticker kind of thing. And that's really kind of what they're aiming to do is like this sort of mass big tax cut idea that's a little different from what we expect from Democrats.
9:38Jared Malsin:Rich says that the senators are trying not to increase the budget deficit, which is expected to grow in the coming years.
9:44Spencer Jakab:So both the Booker and Van Hollen plans, they're designed so that there are tax increases that go along with the tax cuts. Booker has talked about higher corporate taxes and raising the top tax rates. Van Hollen's got a surtax on very high income people. Their idea is to pay for the things that they're doing. The challenge is this. Any dollar that Democrats are able to raise in new revenue to pay for this is a dollar that they can't use for other initiatives. So these proposals have generated some pushback from others in the party who are like, well, wait a minute. What should be first on our list?
10:18Spencer Jakab:When Democrats get to 2029, their first chance to really be in control of everything again, what comes first for the party?
10:31Jared Malsin:Speaking of affordability, we're exclusively reporting that starting next month, McDonald's is planning to offer a new value menu of items costing$3 and less. It'll also have new$4 breakfast deals. The fast food chain has been pushing for nearly two years to cement its affordability image. And a shopper boycott against Target that has hurt its sales may be ending. Last year, a group of activists encouraged shoppers to boycott Target after it backed away from some of its DEI policies. Now their official work on the boycott will end. The activists say that's because Target privately acknowledged a breakdown in trust with the Black community.
11:08Jared Malsin:Target has reported 13 straight quarters of weak or falling quarterly sales. An executive said shoppers upset over DEI policy changes have played a role. A Target spokesman today said that the company is pleased to be moving forward. Last year, we reported a series about the boycott and its impact on Target's bottom line. We'll leave a link to that series in the show notes.
11:32Jared Malsin:The Journal has learned that the Trump administration is preparing to announce new tariff investigations over what it considers unfair trade practices. They could result in higher tariffs on a number of other countries. These tariffs are designed to replace the temporary 10 % tariff imposed last month after the Supreme Court ruled that many of Trump's previous tariffs were illegal. And we're exclusively reporting that President Trump ordered the Justice Department to reverse course on defending the White House's sanctions against law firms. The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month that the department was dropping its defense of executive orders that outlined punishments against specific law firms.
12:10Jared Malsin:People familiar with the matter say that Trump said he didn't sign off on that and expressed displeasure with Justice Department leadership. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said the president had confidence in Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. And that's what's news for this Wednesday afternoon. Today's show is produced by Pierre Bien-Aimé with supervising producer Tali Arbel. I'm Alex Osula for The Wall Street Journal. We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening.
13:08Spencer Jakab:We'll see you next time. So put that fork down. Try the new wraps today in app or at order.sweetgreen.com. Available at participating locations only.
From the publisher
P.M. Edition for Mar. 11. Three commercial ships were hit today near the Strait of Hormuz as Iran steps up its efforts to close off that critical shipping route for oil. WSJ Middle East correspondent Jared Malsin discusses why the Trump administration is turning down requests for military escorts through the strait, and what it would take to reopen it. Plus, U.S. inflation held steady in February. But, as we hear from Journal investing columnist Spencer Jakab, that data doesn’t incorporate the Middle East conflict, so the real question is what comes next. And the Trump administration is preparing to announce new tariff investigations that could result in higher tariffs on a number of countries. Alex Ossola hosts.
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