lying is okay sometimes, unpopular opinions

25:22Emma Chamberlain:Fuck it. Why not? You know, there's little rocks to look at. You can look at rocks. You can find sea glass. I mean, that's not really swimming. That's kind of outside of the water, but you get the idea. Mainly it's the waves. There are waves. There's movement. It's also expansive. So like if you want to get up on a paddleboard, I usually don't want to because I'm usually entertained enough by the waves. But if I wanted to, I could. You can't get on a paddleboard in a pool. You can't go on a kayak in a pool. You're not going to see fish in a pool. There's nothing to jump off of into the pool. I mean, diving boards are pretty much banned.

25:58Emma Chamberlain:I don't know. Like at the beach, there might be like a cliff you can jump off of or even, you know, at like a swimming hole somewhere, there's a place to jump off, whatever. There's little creatures around. you're in nature, which is just so wonderful. Pool, a pool is not nature. Like there's something inherently interesting and grounding about being in nature. Whereas I don't feel that way in a pool. But then also there are more interesting elements going on in natural bodies of water. I just, I don't need to be swimming in a pool. However, though, again, on a hot day to dip in a pool is wonderful.

26:31Emma Chamberlain:And to lay on one of those little pool floating beds can be wonderful. But again, that's not really swimming. So unless there's like a water slide, to me, a pool is pretty boring. But listen, if there is a water slide, that is exciting. And I actually got to experience a water slide this summer. And let me tell you, I had a great time for about 15 minutes, but it was amazing. I had the best time. But after 15 minutes, I was like, all right, I'm good. But still, that was at least something. I just think pools are boring. Oh my God. And don't even get me started on an indoor pool. What's the point?

27:03Emma Chamberlain:You can't, like, you're not even a pool with no sunshine? Oh God. No, I just don't get it. Anyway, moving on. I briefly interrupt this episode to let you know that this episode is brought to you by hotels.com. Okay. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Hotels.com could help you level up your vacation. So if you sign up for free, I might add, you save up to 20 % on select hotels. Yep, up to 20%. That's actual real money back in your pocket, which means yes to massages, yes to room service, yes to those little extras that make a trip feel extra special. Head to hotels.com to book now. Now back to the episode.

27:44Emma Chamberlain:I don't like blackout curtains. A lot of people really love a blackout curtain. They want to be in their bed at night in the pitch black, and they want to wake up in the morning to pitch black. Now, not everyone likes this, but I know a lot of people who do. And I know, you know, it's a very common thing in hotels and stuff like that because a lot of people really enjoy it. I do not like it. Number one, it scares me a little bit. It's too dark. It's just too dark. I want to be able to see if some shit is going on. You know what I mean? Like, what if something terrible happened? Somebody broke into my room.

28:22Emma Chamberlain:Somebody broke into my house, you know? I want to be able to see a little bit. That's number one. Number two, there's something very claustrophobic about blackout curtains. Like I feel stuck. The window doesn't need to be open, but when you can see out the window, it just feels more airy, more spacious, less claustrophobic. But most importantly, in the morning, I need sunlight to wake me up. If I don't have light shining through my window in the morning, I will not wake up. I'm somebody who definitely has a tendency to sleep through alarms. I mean, I'm a pretty heavy sleeper. I will wake up eventually, but like, I don't know, I can sleep through a lot.

29:05Emma Chamberlain:So the sunlight really helps me. An alarm itself is not enough. I need sunlight as well. Like if I have to wake up really early for a flight or for like some sort of work thing, I get nervous every single time that I'm not going to wake up. And sometimes I even have my mom call me like 50 times until I wake up because sometimes I just can't. Yeah, I just don't like it. Some people like to sleep feeling like they're very cozy and like a, you know, cocoon almost. I don't feel that way. I want, you know, I want my door open. I want the windows open. I want openness. I want a little bit of light. I want to be able to get up in the middle of the night to go pee and not have to turn on a light.

29:45I want there to be enough just natural moonlight for that. You know, I'll even keep a light on downstairs sometimes if I'm feeling like it's too dark. I just don't like it to be too dark. Next, I prefer a regular call, classic, over a FaceTime call.

30:03Emma Chamberlain:I don't... FaceTime to me, it's fun if somebody's showing me something. But even then, it's like, text me a photo. because FaceTime is not always the most clear. You know, it's very rare that both people on both ends have good connection. So it's usually not that clear. I can't even see that well. I'd rather just be texted a photo or a video while talking on the phone. Also, you can't really multitask very well when you're FaceTiming. I get so much done on a phone call. I'll put my AirPods in, put my phone in my bag, in a little crossbody bag and be washing the dishes or not washing the dishes, but rinsing the dishes, putting them in the dishwasher, you know, feeding the cats, cooking, putting clothes away.

30:48Emma Chamberlain:Like I can get so much done on a phone call if I'm not on FaceTime. When I'm on FaceTime, it's taking all five senses. I'm holding the phone. I'm looking. I'm listening. What are all this? I'm touching the phone. I don't know. Whatever you get. Like I'm using all my senses. It really is like a lot. I also don't like thinking about what I look like on on the phone camera like in person I don't know. It's very natural to just be present with somebody but on the phone Thinking about how I look through the camera like that's an element that kind of distracts me from the conversation What I like so much about a phone call is that I can take a phone call and look however bad I want Be doing whatever I want can have whatever lighting I want.

31:33I can put my like there it's so simple to just talk on the phone, the classic phone. The simplicity is what I think makes a phone call such a special form of communication.

31:44Emma Chamberlain:The fact that it is just your voice. There's something very romantic about that. There's something very simple about that. There's something very enjoyable about it at times. I'd rather see someone's face in real life than through the screen. I'd rather enjoy the phone call for what it is and then see somebody in person. I don't know. I'm just not into the FaceTime right now. I'm just not. But there have been times in my life where I preferred FaceTime, if I remember correctly. I feel like when I was a teenager, I preferred FaceTime, but now I don't. And that's where I stand. Okay, next. I think a lot of people dream of being an A-list celebrity.

32:24Emma Chamberlain:Like, I feel like that's a, maybe less now, to be honest, because I feel like the sort of the reality of being a celebrity, I think, is much more understood these days now more than ever because of the internet. And I think less people actually dream of being an A-list celebrity. And when I say A-list celebrity, I'm talking about Taylor Swift. I'm talking about Beyonce. I'm talking about the Kardashians. I'm talking about, you know, you get the idea. Mainstream, household name, every single person on the planet, for the most part knows who these people are, right? I think that's less desirable for people nowadays because I think the realities have been exposed of what it's like, which I mean, I think there's a lot of it that is wonderful, very fruitful.

33:12But I think the downsides of it are more understood now than ever. And so I see more people saying on the internet, for example, like, I wouldn't want this celebrity's life. Like, this seems like a nightmare. However, I do still think that that's an unpopular opinion. I think most people would love to be an A-list celebrity.

33:32Emma Chamberlain:My unpopular opinion is that I wouldn't. Like, being a mainstream A-list celebrity, to me, is not desirable in the slightest at all. I have no interest in being that famous. It just, to me, it's a nightmare. The things that bring me the most joy in my life would be so much more challenging if I was in that position. Like for example, I love going to the grocery store and shopping around, walking through the aisles. It's so peaceful for me. It's so wonderful. Taylor Swift cannot go to the grocery store unless she's in full prosthetics. She would get completely mobbed, you know, by fans, by paparazzi, who knows, whatever.

34:16Emma Chamberlain:That is not something she can do from what I understand. And if she does do it, it's probably not very relaxing. For me, it's very relaxing. I mean, I am still a public figure. People come up to me and say, oh my God, hi at the grocery store. But like maybe two people, like if you're Taylor Swift, it's everyone. Two people is awesome and wonderful and delightful. Like 30 people? No. I mean, that would be, again, it's amazing but like that's a lot you can't at that point you can't really grocery shop you know what I'm saying it's also very scary being that famous you know from a security perspective when that many people are a fan of you there's a lot of people who are really a fan of you to the point where they might do things that are a little bit unsafe or weird that is also a nightmare for me having to live a life that is so like so much security involved like you can't do anything without having security with you to protect you.

35:15Emma Chamberlain:That sucks. That doesn't sound fun to me. Never being able to do anything without being surveillanced sucks. Like, I mean, I experienced like a little teeny sliver of that where like sometimes people will film me without me knowing or whatever and stuff. It doesn't happen that much. It happens sometimes. But like there are like 85 % of my life, not even 95 % of my life, I would say is done without being filmed. Like I can go to the grocery store without being filmed. I can go eat at a restaurant without being filmed. I can, there's so many things I can do where I'm not being necessarily surveillanced.

35:53Emma Chamberlain:It happens occasionally, but imagine every time you go eat at a restaurant, you're being filmed. People are taking photos of you. That's very anxiety inducing. Like what if I'm itching my nose and somebody takes a picture and is like, look, picking her nose at dinner, whatever. Or like, I like to go to dinner and talk shit a little bit sometimes with my friends. You know, how scary would it be to be at a restaurant and have somebody filming you and filming your mouth moving and then it gets posted on TikTok and then everybody's tagging the person who knows how to read lips or whatever. And then now everybody knows what you're talking about.

36:28Emma Chamberlain:That's my fucking nightmare. That is actually my nightmare. Because when you're that famous, it's very hard to have privacy. And I think humans need an element of privacy to stay mentally healthy, you know? And I don't know. I think I'm able to sort of, I am a public figure, but I'm able to balance like my privacy and whatever. Like it's, I can still do normal stuff. You know what I mean? Being an A-list celebrity, you cannot do normal stuff. And normal, like normal stuff is so wonderful. You know, like something as simple as going to the grocery store or taking the subway in New York or eating out at a restaurant, like eating out on the street with a bunch of people walking by.

37:12Emma Chamberlain:Like all of these things are things that A-list celebrities can't do. And listen, there's a lot of things that A-list celebrities can do that most other people can't do. They can go rent a private island for the weekend. You know what I mean? But can I be honest? That's not a fun vacation for me. I don't want to be alone on a private island. I actually don't. I love a vacation where I'm like experiencing people. I like going to places where, I don't know, I can sit at a cafe and people watch. I can shop around and do things, you know, be out in the community of where I'm visiting. I enjoy that element.

37:50Emma Chamberlain:So like, I don't know. It just, to me, it's not a lifestyle that I crave, that I envy. And I don't know. I think that's an unpopular opinion. Maybe it's not these days. Maybe everybody has kind of come to that same consensus. But yeah, it's my nightmare. Okay, next. I think drinking alcohol is a bit too normalized. And I came to this conclusion after quitting alcohol. I quit almost a year ago now because I think, I still don't know for sure, I developed an intolerance. I started getting really sick after drinking one glass of wine, which was weird. So I ultimately decided to quit. And I still don't really know why it started to make me feel sick, but it doesn't really matter because it was making me feel sick.

38:32Emma Chamberlain:So I just quit. And it hasn't been that challenging, to be honest. You know, there are some things about it that I miss. Like, I do enjoy the flavor of wine. I like the way that it tastes with food. I love the way that alcohol can bring people together, to be honest. Like I'm in my mid-20s, almost mid-20s. Ooh, I'm 24 still. Early 20s. I can still say that maybe. I'm in my early 20s. We'll say early until I turn 25. No, I'm really kind of in my mid-20s. I'm in my mid-20s and a lot of social events revolve around alcohol. And I do enjoy being social at times. And so I appreciate that alcohol brings people together, but it's also like when you don't drink, you can still participate, but it is kind of a bummer, you know, not to be able to participate.

39:26Emma Chamberlain:But now that it's been almost a year of not drinking, I've really reflected on the culture around alcohol a lot because I've been faced with it in a new way for the past year. And I've discovered some interesting things about it. you know, the more I learn about alcohol, the more I realize how really bad for you it is. Like, we all know it's not good for us, but alcohol is really bad. Like, there used to be this sort of idea, like, everything in moderation. But I'm starting to see things that are like, alcohol, even in moderation, is honestly not good. Like, everything in moderation is fine. But like, it's bad for you, period, end of story.

40:07Emma Chamberlain:You can still enjoy it. You're not going to die. but like it's pretty bad for you and there's kind of no like there's no wiggle around you know what I mean and I mean that's probably still up for debate science is always kind of up for debate I guess but I've just seen more articles like that coming out and then I also on a personal level have just experienced such a difference in how I feel like I just feel better healthier healthier, sharper in my brain, less inflamed in general. I just feel physically so much better not drinking. My social skills have improved because I don't have a crutch, you know?

40:47There

40:48Emma Chamberlain:are still moments where I feel kind of awkward or out of place because I'm not drinking, but like I'm continuing to get even better at managing that. Like I've had all these realizations and And it's led me to the conclusion that I do think alcohol is too normalized. Considering how prominent and normal it is to like order a drink every time you're at dinner. Every time you go out to dinner, order a drink. How normal it is to have a glass of wine every night. How normal it is to get drunk with your friends every weekend. I'm not saying that this is like morally wrong, okay? It's fun. And yeah, it's like maybe not healthy for you.

41:26Emma Chamberlain:but there's a lot of shit that we do that isn't healthy for us that we're going to do anyway, because it's fucking fun. I get it. But it's so normalized and it's so ingrained in our routines as human beings that we almost never question it or critically think about it. Like I didn't because I enjoyed it and I was having fun and it was what everybody else was doing. But now that I'm not doing it because I was forced to not do it, I'm like, wait, I feel so much better. My social skills are improving. I still have fun. I can still go out and dance and enjoy myself, you know, which I don't do that often, but like I still can do that.

42:01Emma Chamberlain:It's not like I can't do that without alcohol. And it's actually bizarre how many things revolve around the consumption of alcohol. It's just bizarre to me now that I don't participate in it, I guess. But again, I'm not saying it's wrong. I just think it's a little bit too normalized, in my opinion. I think alcohol consumption should be not like more frowned upon. That's not the right term, but maybe like considering how bad for you it really is and how addicting it can be, like considering and how dangerous it can be, like considering all that, it's really weird how normalized it is. I'm not saying that we shouldn't enjoy alcohol if we want to.

42:45Emma Chamberlain:Like it's so complicated. And I like, but I think it's maybe a little bit too normalized and a little bit too ingrained in our routine as social animals, you know? But this is just how I feel. I don't know. Like, I feel like cigarettes are a great example of something that people participate in smoking cigarettes, right? But there's this very, like, deep understanding among human beings that cigarettes are bad. People still smoke cigarettes. Listen, I vaped for many years. I haven't vaped in a while, but I'm still consuming nicotine in one way or another, but not through the little nicotine pouches.

43:24You know what I'm talking about? Whatever. I'm not inhaling anything these days, which is good. Good for me. But I've been at this point before and then gone back to the vape. But anyway, we all know how bad cigarettes are.

43:37Emma Chamberlain:People still smoke them, but we all know there's like a collective understanding that cigarettes are really, really bad for you, right? We all are very, very, very aware of how bad cigarettes are for you. Alcohol is also very bad for you. And in some ways, short term can be even more dangerous. People do very dumb things under the influence. That's arguably no one's doing dumb things under the influence of a cigarette. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, long term cigarettes are very bad for you and very dangerous. But short term, they're actually safer than alcohol. People get themselves into situations very, very bad situations that fuck their life up forever or end their life from drinking alcohol because it's so easy to take it too far.

44:23Emma Chamberlain:And yet alcohol is just not taken as seriously, I feel like. I don't know. That's at least been my experience in my life is that we know the dangers of getting too drunk and doing bad things and stuff. Yes, but like alcohol is still such a normal part of our routines as social animals. I don't know. I just think it's too normalized. Cigarettes feel a little bit less normalized and a little bit more like scrutinized. And I think that's good. Like if something's bad for you, it's like, maybe I'm just speaking from personal experience and you might disagree, but that's how I feel. Okay. Moving on.

44:58Emma Chamberlain:Next. I feel like having pets. Okay. I have two cats. I feel like having pets causes me more anxiety than it does relieve my anxiety. A lot of people find that having pets brings them peace, helps relieve their anxiety. The presence of having little critters around is very peaceful. And listen, I agree. When I'm laying in bed at night and I have my two kitties on the bed with me, I feel safe. Much safer than I would feel if I didn't have two kitties laying on the bed with me. However, even though their presence brings me a lot of peace and I absolutely adore them and I don't regret adopting them for even a second, the amount of anxiety I have about something bad happening to them almost out anxieties the anxiety relief that they give me.

45:46Emma Chamberlain:Does that make sense? Like, yeah, they might relieve my anxiety a little bit, but my anxiety about something bad happening to them is almost it's more severe than what they're relieving for me. Does that make sense? It's a net negative anxiety wise for me, because if one of them gets out, I live somewhere where there's coyotes. They're fucked. My cats are fucked. They would not, I don't even think they'd last 24 hours. They would get eaten. That is my biggest fear. I, I have so much anxiety about my cats getting out. I almost don't even invite people over to my house because I don't want someone to leave a door open, which people do all the time.

46:24Emma Chamberlain:And then a cat get out. In fact, when people come over to my house, I will put my cats in a separate room that I know that I won't be going into with, you know, whoever is coming over to hang out. Let's say, you know, someone's coming over to have dinner. I will put the cats in a particular room, lock the door, set them up, of course, with, they have their litter box, they have their food, they have their water, they have their little beds. They have an entire room to themselves. I'll shut the door and I'll lock it and that door is not getting open because I don't trust people to not leave a door open.

46:56Emma Chamberlain:somebody will be like oh my god it's so nice that tonight open the door cats are out and then 20 minutes later eaten by a coyote that gives me so much fucking anxiety these are my little sweet baby angels that I love so much the thought of them getting hit by a car getting eaten by a coyote I can't fucking handle it okay and I can't talk to them like with a kid I mean it's very different to have a pet and have a kid but like with a kid eventually you know you can talk to them at least I mean, listen, I can't even imagine how much anxiety I'm going to have when I have a kid. So I'm like trying to convince myself that I'm not going to be the same way, but I probably will be.

47:31But like, I can't talk to these cats.

47:34Emma Chamberlain:I can't be like, hey, you can't go outside. You're going to get eaten by a coyote. Okay. Can't say that. If they get out, I can't be like, hey, come back here. They won't listen to me. They might. They might. Because I mean, we are close like that. But like, I don't know. You know, when an animal has been inside its entire life, which is kind of sad, but they've been inside their entire lives. But I have plants in here, whatever. Sometimes like a bug will get in here and they get to chase it. So they're fine. Me, like now I'm having an existential crisis about domesticated animals. Oh, like, sorry.

48:07Like, sorry, you've been stuck in here all this time. But they seem happy and everyone else is doing it. So it's really fine. No, but when a cat that's been inside its entire life, again, moral dilemma I'm having suddenly,

48:18Emma Chamberlain:goes outside for like the first time ever, it gets freaked out. It gets excited. It gets weirded out. Weird things happen. And it just starts like running, you know? In fact, funny story. One time Declan did get out when I was living in an apartment in a very like city part of Los Angeles. And this was when I was out of town and had a cat sitter. The cat sitter let the cat out on accident. Literally a nightmare fuel, but I didn't find out about it until Declan was captured and safely returned home. What basically happened was Declan got out and was roaming the streets, okay, for eight hours. And when the cat sitter got back, I think Declan was like sitting by my apartment elevator.

49:01Emma Chamberlain:He had found his way back and was just sitting by the elevator, which is kind of amazing. He kind of ate that shit up. He did a great job. You know, he took his one day out very responsibly, okay? He could have gotten into some shit. I was right by a very busy, busy, busy main road. Okay. And a cat who doesn't have his wits about him might run into traffic. Not Declan. No, he maybe climbed a tree or two and then like went back, tried to go back home. So good for him. Uh, I trust him somewhat, but the neighborhood I live in now, he is prey. He's prey, you know, he's low on the food chain, not the lowest, but he's lower than, than I wish he was, you know?

49:44So yeah. Like I, I actually kind of dream of like, there's something about the idea

49:51Emma Chamberlain:of not having cats and like being able to invite people over and open all the doors and all the windows and all this and not have to worry about them getting out. Like I, I don't even like opening windows in my house to be honest, because I'm so afraid of them, you know, ripping the screen and getting out. I, ah, sucks. But sometimes I just want to crack a fucking window. I do it when I'm there to watch the window. Like they're not going to, you know, I see if they were trying to get out, but there's something nice about the summertime, cracking a bunch of windows, letting the breeze come in throughout the house.

50:22And I don't feel comfortable doing that because I'm too scared. Moving on. Taking a bath is not relaxing. Okay. There's a few reasons why. Number one, really hard to get the temperature right. Usually too hot or too cold. Now we usually end up, and I mean we just by, I think, people in general, we usually tend to make the bath too hot

50:44Emma Chamberlain:knowing it's going to cool down. Well, getting into the bath when it's too hot is ultimately uncomfortable. And very quickly, sweating begins. Now, obviously, you're in water, so sweating isn't that bad, but you're still sweating, and it's still kind of uncomfortable. I don't like being overly hot, which makes no sense because I like doing hot yoga. But that's different because I know that there's an end to it. And I also know that I'm putting myself through an uncomfortable situation because at the end I know I'll feel good, but I don't feel good at the end of a hot bath. I just feel overheated.

51:11Emma Chamberlain:There's something about hot yoga that like at the end of it, I like feel good after I like get in the shower, I take a, you know, room temp sort of shower and I don't know, I cool off, whatever. But like, there's something about a hot bath that I feel like it just like penetrates deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep inside to every last cell. And after I get out of a hot bath, I like cannot cool down and it's very uncomfortable. So the temperature situation is really tough for me. I feel overheated. And then when it cools down, I'm still kind of overheated. But the next thing I know, it's too cold, but I'm still kind of overheated.

51:45It's like, what's happening? It just doesn't feel good to me. It also is physically

51:50Emma Chamberlain:uncomfortable unless you have some sort of like, I don't know, like rubber chair insert in your bath, you're slipping and sliding around. It's uncomfortable. When I'm in the bath, I'm like, do I want to sit straight up? I guess that's my only option. Because if I try to lay down, I'm like, you know, slipping into the water. I have no leverage. I'm like, can't get comfortable. Can't get comfortable in the bath. But also, it's really hard to do things in the bath. Like a lot of times when we're in the bath, we want to do stuff. We want to set up the iPad with a little YouTube video, something toxic we found on our Explorer page.

52:24Emma Chamberlain:That's what we want. We want to watch, I don't know, what are you guys watching? Love Island? You want to watch Love Island in the bath. Well, your hands are all wet and you're trying to like touch the screen and then like it pauses on accident or buffers and you like want to refresh or like check your wifi, but your hands wet again, you have to dry it again. It's like, Oh, you know, or you want a snack or something, but then it's like, you have to have your arms out of the water the whole time. Cause you're trying to eat your snack, but like, you don't want to get your arms wet. Cause if your arms get wet, then you won't be able to like, then you're getting your bath water into your snack.

52:54Emma Chamberlain:It's like, Oh, it's just not relaxing. And then the worst part of all is that at the end of it, I don't feel clean. I don't. I still feel kind of dirty. And so I inevitably need to rinse off in the shower anyway. What I'd rather do is just take the shower. Maybe I even take an everything shower. Shave, you know, wash the hair, get out, really, you know, lube up the face and body, do the whole damn thing. Feel super soft and like oily in a good way, whatever. Super clean. the best feeling in the world and then get into bed. That's what I'd rather do. Fuck it. Get in bed with a little snack. Get in bed with the iPad set up, you know, with the TV on.

53:38I have a TV in my room and I still like to watch things on my iPad sometimes. Actually, most times. When I first moved into my house, I was like, no TV in the bedroom. And then at a certain point, I was like, eh, fuck it. It's kind of fun, you know.

53:50Emma Chamberlain:But when I'm alone, I never watch my TV in my room, ever. I watch stuff on my iPad. However, if there's a boy there, then I'm turning on the TV. It's like, if there, if you like, you know what I'm saying? There's something about like, with, you know, you're with bae, you're laying down, you're turning on the TV. Like you can't watch something on an iPad with bae. It's too clunky and tough. You know, it's like, you're trying to set it up in between you both. It just doesn't work. It's nice to have the TV on. But when I'm alone, the TV almost is like too big and scary. Like there's something really comforting and almost nostalgic about just watching something on the iPad or on my laptop because that's what I did my entire life, honestly.

54:34I've watched YouTube on my iPad since I was like, what, 10? Yeah. Like that's been the routine. There's something so intimate about watching it on a small screen. So when I'm alone, I prefer that. But I'd so much rather do that, have like a relaxing little night after a delicious shower instead of trying to do all this shit in the bath. Nah. All right, moving on. I think that this unpopular opinion comes because I don't drink anymore. So I feel this way now more than ever. But I've kind of always felt this way. the best part about going out 95 % of the time is the people watching. It's not the getting ready by myself, stressing out about my outfit.

55:14I do enjoy that though. That can be really fun. If I know what I want to wear. Okay. If not, it can be a little bit stressful. I do like doing my makeup though. That is enjoyable, but that's not the best part.

55:26Emma Chamberlain:The drive there can be fun listening to music and stuff that can be fun, but I don't know that that's the best part either. I love the people watching okay but the drive there is kind of a close second the drive there is so fun to be singing with your friends in the car holy shit what's better but I love the people watching I like people watching better than I like dancing on the dance floor I like people watching better than I like talking to people even sometimes I love watching people I love looking at what they're wearing I love watching somebody flirt with somebody else I love you know watching somebody like talk to somebody and then turn around and roll their eyes at the person about the person that they were just talking to like how fun now I will say do I do that the whole fucking night like sit in the corner and people watch no I get little brief moments of that throughout a night of going out you know a little five minutes here a little five minutes there sandwich in between the dancing and the chatting but it's so nice sometimes to sit in the corner with a friend or two and be like, ooh, look at that.

56:31Emma Chamberlain:Oh, that's a cute outfit. Oh, interesting choice with the boots. Like, oh, they're definitely fighting. Oh, they're definitely flirting. Like, I love that. Oh, I love it. I love it. But it's a little bit weird to do, you know? Like, you have to be pretty tactful about it because otherwise it's like, what are these freaks doing sitting in the corner? Like, staring at everyone talking. And you don't want to do it for too long because then it gets even weirder. but the little brief five minute chunks of time where I get to people watch, I love, I love even better if I get to eavesdrop on a conversation.

57:07No, but I try not to do that because I wouldn't want somebody to do that to me, but sometimes they're talking really loud and really close to me, so I can't help it. I'm actually, I said this on popular opinion and now I'm kind of feeling like, is it really the best part about going out? Maybe it's not the best. I really do think there's like nice parts about every little thing. And then there's also bad parts about every little thing. Like getting ready can be fun, but stressful. The drive there can be fun, but stressful. The chatting it up can be fun, but stressful. I don't know. Everything about it can be fun, but stressful.

57:38But I, there is something really magical about the people watching. And I think it's, perhaps it's an underrated joy of going out, getting to analyze people and see what the fuck they're doing. Because I also think too that like when I used to go out, right, I used to drink. I used to flirt with boys sometimes. Not very well. I shouldn't even say I would flirt with boys. I would wait around until they'd flirt with me and then they wouldn't. And then I'd be like, what? Crazy night for me. Nothing happened. So weird.

58:07Emma Chamberlain:But like there was like a goal. I was going out to get buzzed and like get loose and shoot the shit, right? Dance, be silly, whatever. I still go out to do that, but it's different when you don't drink. There's like, you don't have as much excitement around like, oh, I'm like trying to get kind of buzz. I'm trying to get drunk or whatever and hit a certain level to the point where like everything becomes fun. You know, when you're sober, you still can have a lot of fun, but it's never the same. You know, it's not the same. Also when I was like, when I was very much single, it's just like a different vibe.

58:43And in phases of my life where I've been single, It's just a very different vibe.

58:46Emma Chamberlain:Nowadays going out, it's like, I don't really have any goal, right? I'm not trying to get drunk. I'm not trying to like meet a cute boy. You know, I'm not necessarily even trying to make new friends. Like I, when I go out, love to chat with new people. It's very fun. That's part of the fun of it. But I'm not necessarily looking for new friends. You know, I'm very satisfied with who I'm friends with. So if a new friend comes my way, wonderful, but I'm not searching for it. Whereas when I've been single, it's been like, I'm not like chasing, but like, I'm stoked. Like, it's fun to like, see a cute boy and get excited.

59:18Emma Chamberlain:You know what I mean? I don't know. So now like the people watching element has become one of my favorite parts because there's not a lot else to do, you know? And I like dancing too. But if the music isn't working for me, then it's not fun. And the music works for me probably 40 % of the time, to be honest, maybe 50 % of the time. Let's say that. Let's be generous. So I don't know. That's why that's creeped up to one of the top spots for me. Okay, next. Dresses are uncomfortable to me. A lot of people are like, OMG, I love a dress. It's so easy. It's so simple. You pop it on. It's super comfortable.

59:55And then, you know, you just

59:57Emma Chamberlain:have like an outfit that's just already ready to go. Like a sundress or I'm talking about casual dresses. Okay. I'm not talking about like a gown. I'm talking about a sundress, just a casual dress. There's something about a dress that's so uncomfortable for me. I don't know why. I've never liked the way it feels on my body. I'm very sensitive and sensorial. Is that a word? I don't know. I'm very particular about how my clothes fit, how they feel on my body. I've always been that way. I'm very particular. And listen, if I'm going to a fashion show, If I'm going to an event and I want to get really dolled up, I will push through the pain and wear uncomfortable clothing.

1:00:40Emma Chamberlain:But on a day-to-day basis, I'm not going to do that. Like comfort is a huge priority for me. And I'm very, very particular. Like if there's a tag in the back of my shirt, I freak out. If I don't freak out, but like I cannot, I have to remove it. You know what I mean? Like if I leave the house and I notice that there's a tag in the back of my shirt and it's itching my neck, I will literally go to the bathroom. I've done this. I will literally go to the bathroom in wherever establishment I've ended up. Say I'm at a restaurant, go in the bathroom, take my shirt off, get my little Swiss army knife out of my purse and it's attached to my car keys and I will cut the tag off.

1:01:21I'll seam rip it. You know, I can't handle it. I'm very particular about how my socks feel on my feet. I'm very particular about how my underwear feels. Like if my underwear is too tight or too low-waisted, can't handle it. If pants are too tight or too loose in the wrong areas, like, and it feels a certain way, I can't handle it. Certain fabrics, the way it feels on my skin, I can't handle it. I think it's pretty normal. But I will say, I mean, people in my life have told me like, yes, you are very particular about these things more than the average. And so I am. There's something about casual dresses, just the silhouette of a dress.

1:01:57Emma Chamberlain:I don't like the way it feels for some reason. I like the way pants feel on my waist. Does that make sense? Like I like feeling the waistband on my waist. There's something about it that's very comfortable to me. And so when I'm wearing a dress and there's no waistband, it just feels, I feel naked or something. I can't put a finger on it, but I just, the sensation of it is very uncomfortable to me. I will say though, if I were to wear like, let's say a pair of shorts, like a full on pair of like yoga shorts under a dress, that might be comfortable, but it's also just like a lot of fabric. I don't know.

1:02:36I do not own at this point, since I've scaled down my closet 90%, which I did a long time ago, but you know, I've continued to scale it down. I don't think I own one dress. I'm not kidding. I don't think I own one dress. I own skirts. I love a skirt, but I don't own a dress because it just, I don't like the way it feels. I will wear a dress to an event. I'll wear a dress for an evening and it's fine. You know, we make, we make do. But on top of that, I just don't even like how 90 % of dresses, casual dresses look, to be honest. It's very rare that I see a dress where I'm like, oh, I like that one.

1:03:09Very rare. It happens, but it's just not my style really. So I just don't like dresses, I guess. But I do love wearing a gown though. Of course, of course. Like a gown? Sure. But a casual dress, like a sundress? Fuck that. Next. Okay. These last few unpopular opinions are all about food. So consider this the food speed round, if you will. To start the food speed round, I prefer eating a salad or bowl, like some sort of, you know, like sweet green or kava or whatever with a spoon. Yeah, with a spoon.

1:03:48Emma Chamberlain:It's so much better. I can really like figure out what I want to get in my bite with a spoon and I can really scoop it up and I can really get it into my mouth in a way that I just can't with a fork. With a fork, shit's falling off, shit's breaking in half. I just, it just doesn't work as well. I think eating a salad or a bowl makes sense with a spoon. When I see somebody eating a Chipotle bowl with a fork, it makes me shudder. But there have been times where, I don't know, I've been at Chipotle and I have just quickly grabbed a fork instead of a spoon. And then I realized later, fuck, I don't go to Chipotle that often, but on the rare occasion where it makes sense.

1:04:30I don't want to eat my Chipotle bowl with a fork. I'm like, shit's falling off of the, oh no. A spoon is the move. It's so funny. At one of the restaurants that I eat at quite a bit in Los Angeles, there's a chopped salad and it's chopped like pretty finely. And I remember for so long I was eating that salad with a fork and it was so frustrating. Like I love the salad so much that I'd want to get like a big bite of it, you know, because it's such a good salad, which I know sounds kind of like, what? But it's a really delicious salad. And it's so satisfying. And like, you know, I would want to take a big bite and I'd get like a big scoop on my fork.

1:05:08And then by the time I'd get to my mouth, all of it had fallen off. And then I realized, oh wait, I need to eat this shit with a spoon.

1:05:13Emma Chamberlain:And oh my God, it's so good. You can get that full bite that you fucking want. And you can get every little thing. If you're like eating a bowl, you're like, I want a little bit of the quinoa and I want a little bit of the potato and I want a little bit of the, and I want a little bit of the cilantro and I want, what kind of bowl is this? These are the most random ingredients. Anyway, and I want a little bit of the cherry tomato and I want a little bit of the feta cheese. Like you can go around and you can get a little bit of everything and pop it into your mouth. With a fork, you're, you're like, you're fighting, you're fighting to get what you want.

1:05:42Emma Chamberlain:We shouldn't be fighting for what we want. I mean, sometimes we have to, but when you're eating a salad or a bowl, you don't have to just eat it with a fucking spoon. Okay, moving on. Maple donut is the best donut, hands down. I'll eat a glazed donut. Okay, you know what? No, I'll eat any donut. It's a donut. It's a donut. There's not a donut I don't like. If you put a donut in front of me, I'm having a bite, okay? That's obvious, and I'm going to enjoy the bite as well. Fuck it, I might eat the whole thing. You know, I might get a stomachache from it because donuts do not sit right with me at all, but to me, a maple donut's the best.

1:06:17Like if I'm going to a donut shop and I'm faced with 50 donut flavors, there's a really good chance I'm choosing a maple donut. Yeah. It's the best, I think, which I think a lot of people like maple donuts, but it's kind of more of a polarizing flavor. Next, the best salad green. Okay. People talk about romaine lettuce. People talk about arugula, people talk about iceberg, lettuce, which, no, thank you. That's not a good lettuce to me. You know, there's spinach, right? Kale is the best. Hands down, kale is the best. When it's prepared properly, and that's a key, I will say, that's very important.

1:06:57When it's prepared properly, it is the best salad green. It must be massaged though. If kale is not massaged, it is not good. It needs to be either massaged or cut very thinly. Otherwise, it's too tough. And the stems need to be properly removed. Otherwise, you get crunchy, gross stems in there that are like really hard to chew. When kale is prepared properly, it is so delicious.

1:07:21Emma Chamberlain:It has my favorite texture. It's like crunchy and fresh, but like hearty. It doesn't wilt very easily, which I hate wilted greens, like really hate it. I really don't like it. It really grosses me out. It's like slimy and gross. Kale doesn't get slimy. It doesn't get gross. It's like always crisp. It's always hearty. It's always hard. I like the flavor of it. It has kind of like a bitterness to it that complements things so well. You know, one of my favorite salads of all time is from Erwan. Whoops, whoops. Kale, white bean, avocado salad with a gorgeous little vinaigrette on it. Little hemp seeds, a little pumpkin seeds.

1:07:58I don't know if there's other shit on it too, but that salad is so good. You know, the little bitterness of the kale with the creaminess of the avocado and the creaminess of the bean in the bright, like acidic little vinaigrette, like the kale adds something. Romaine lettuce doesn't add something to me. Listen, do I love a Caesar salad? Fuck yeah, I love a Caesar salad. I do, you know, and that's the best with romaine. It's true. It's true.

1:08:23Emma Chamberlain:But I can't taste the romaine lettuce when I'm eating a Caesar salad. I taste, hopefully a fuck ton of parmesan cheese in creamy like yummy dijon-y umami caesar dressing. I don't taste romaine lettuce. It doesn't taste like anything. Kale has a nice taste. I don't know. I like kale. I think it's the best. Okay, next. Savory breakfast is better than sweet breakfast. I would rather have an egg sandwich over pancakes. I would rather have an omelet over French toast. I would rather have a bagel with cream cheese over oatmeal. Well, that's kind of obvious because a bagel with cream cheese is just like so much more delicious than oatmeal.

1:09:05I like oatmeal though. But like, what's a good equivalent? Like I'd rather have maybe the omelet to oatmeal is more of an equivalent. But yeah, I just, I don't know, sweet breakfast, it's not as appealing to me. But I think in general, I prefer salty foods over sweet foods. I like, I almost have a salty tooth. You know, people always talk about a sweet tooth. I have a salty tooth. I love a french fry. I love a tater tot. I love a chip. Oh my God, I love a chip. Like I love salty stuff. I love salty foods that are fried. Things with a lot of salt I like. I love sweet stuff too, but like I really crave, crave, crave salty foods more than I do sweet foods.

1:09:47So it makes sense that I prefer savory breakfast over sweet. However, again, if I were to get brunch with friends, I might order a savory breakfast. But if there is a French toast on the table, I will be eating it. Like, it's not like I don't like it ever. I just think there's something about things that are too sweet that oftentimes make me feel like shit as well. Like I just end up feeling kind of sick or, I don't know, for whatever reason. Whereas I can eat as much, I can eat so much salt and feel amazing. I can eat something very fried and I will not feel good, but I can tolerate it. Eating something too sweet, I'll feel sick.

1:10:26Like that makes me feel more sick. Maybe that's what it comes down to. Anyway, and last but not least, cereal is a terrible breakfast food. It is a terrible breakfast food. It rarely has any protein in it. It's not filling at all. like having a bowl of cereal for breakfast is that is no, I can't do that. That does nothing for me. It does absolutely nothing for me. Now, listen, there are protein cereals out there that are much more filling and more well-rounded. And I love those and I buy those. But even then, not a good breakfast for me. If I'm going to eat breakfast, I want to have like breakfast.

1:11:01Okay. I want like an avocado toast with an egg. I want an omelet.

1:11:04Emma Chamberlain:I want something warm and exciting. Cereal for breakfast is not, it's just not a good breakfast food. It's not filling enough. It's not satisfying enough. And it's, I don't know. It just doesn't do it for me. However, cereal is the perfect late night snack. It's perfect. I had dinner a little too early. I'm hungry. It's 11 PM. I'm hungry. Cereal is the perfect snack that settles your stomach, is fun to eat, but isn't so filling that you're like, you lay down afterwards and you're in pain. It's like light, but it, I don't know, it like, it does the trick once you've already had your dinner. Does that make sense?

1:11:45Like, it's not a good way to start your day. It's a great way to end your day. Cereal's like a great dessert almost. And that's that. Okay, those are all of my unpopular opinions. I'll probably have a few more in a few months. So I'll get back to you on those. The list is ever growing. This is not a definitive list. I will be back when I have more to share with you. Let me know some of your unpopular opinions at anything goes on Instagram. Okay, comment on one of the posts and say what your unpopular opinion is. Okay, when this episode comes out, there's going to be posts about this episode. And I want you to comment on those and say what your unpopular opinions are because I'm very curious.

1:12:25And I find I love reading those comments. If you enjoyed this episode. You can hang out every Thursday and Sunday with me anywhere you stream podcasts. Although if you want to watch video, that is on YouTube and Spotify. I am on the internet everywhere except for like TikTok and a bunch of other places actually. I'm available in some places at Emma Chamberlain. My coffee company is available on the internet and in the world at Chamberlain Coffee and that's where I am and you can come and find me if you want to. I really appreciate you listening to this episode and hanging out with me. It's always a pleasure.

1:12:58It's so much fun. We have so much fun together. Oh, we do. And luckily for both of us, we get to talk again in a very short amount of time, in a few days, actually. So I'll talk to you then. I love you all. I appreciate you all. And talk soon. Okay, bye.