How Google Cheated Their Way To Billions

6 Sep 2024 · 37 min

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Episode Title

How Google Cheated Their Way To Billions

Host

Ed Zitron

Episode Overview In this episode, Ed Zitron explores Google's monopolistic practices in search and search advertising, detailing how the company manipulated advertisers to achieve financial success. He argues for the necessity of breaking up Google to foster competition within the tech industry.

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Key Concepts and Discussions

Google's Monopoly

  • Definition: A monopoly is a market structure where a single company has significant control over a commodity or service, limiting competition.
  • Judge Amit Mehta's Ruling: Recently ruled that Google constitutes an illegal monopoly in search and online advertising.
  • Importance of the Ruling: The ruling may lead to substantial penalties for Google, potentially forcing it to change its business practices.

Historical Context

  • Early Success: For nearly two decades, Google was recognized for providing superior search results, which fueled its dominance.
  • Transition to Monopoly: Over time, Google's competitive edge diminished as it began implementing unfair business practices to maintain its market share.

Distribution Agreements

  • Default Search Settings: Google pays companies (like Apple and Mozilla) to remain the default search engine on their platforms.
  • User Inertia: Most users either remain unaware of how to change default settings or lack the motivation to do so.
  • Impact on Competition: The reliance on default search engines significantly limits users' exposure to alternative search providers.

Manipulative Advertising Practices

  • Price Manipulation: Google has systematically increased advertising prices, often without transparency, leading advertisers to unknowingly accept higher costs.
  • Keyword Matching Issues: Google adds keywords to advertisers' bids, often leading to irrelevant placements, which increases competition and prices in an unpredictable manner.
  • Lack of Transparency: Google’s practices prevent advertisers from understanding where and how their ads will appear, thus limiting their effectiveness.

Potential Outcomes of the Ruling

  1. Ending Default Search Deals: This would allow more competition and enable users to choose alternative search engines.
  2. Mandatory User Choice: Browser developers could be required to present users with options for their default search engine.
  3. Data Sharing Requirements: Google may have to share click and query data with competitors, though this raises privacy concerns.
  4. Breakup of Google: The most drastic option, potentially forcing the separation of Google’s search and advertising divisions, which could fundamentally alter its business model.

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Key Takeaways

  • Urgency for Action: Zitron emphasizes that the tech industry must advocate for breaking up monopolies like Google to promote fair competition.
  • Historical Lessons: He draws parallels to past monopolistic practices by companies like Microsoft to illustrate the potential consequences of inaction.
  • Call to Action: Listeners are encouraged to engage in conversations about monopolies and their impact on society and the tech industry.

Final Thoughts Zitron concludes with a passionate plea for the tech industry to return to its roots of innovation and consumer-focused service, arguing that the current landscape, dominated by a few monopolies, is detrimental to both users and advertisers.

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3:26In the last episode, I went over why Google's monopoly is such a problem, and why monopolies are a form of societal cancer. And in this episode, I'll go over what might happen next to Google after their antitrust trial. And by the time you hear this, it'll have been a few weeks since judge Amit Mehta ruled that Google was an illegal monopoly in search and online advertising. The next phase of this saga, though not including any appeals, will decide what penalties will come. Although it will be several months and most likely several years before we learn exactly what happens to Google, it's clear the company sits on a dangerous precipice.

4:01In addition to a monetary penalty, which is fairly likely, and which could certainly be in the billions of dollars, Judge Meta will likely force Google to undertake some action that would effectively end its monopoly status, or at the very least support more competition. And we'll get to those in a second. But it's worth noting that we need to talk about how we got here. For this, I'm going to be heavily relying on Judge Meta's 300-page ruling. Judge Meta didn't concern himself with how Google got big, because in antitrust law, there's nothing really prohibiting you from achieving dominance by being good and better than the competition.

4:35And to be fair, for the first couple of decades, Google was genuinely superior to any alternative. This was evidenced by its early reviews, with Danny Sullivan, who now works for Google as a guy who occasionally pretends to care about what reporters think, but at the time he wrote for search engine watch. And he said, so how about results? I think many people will be pleased, especially for the ever popular single and two word queries. A search for Bill Clinton brought the White House site up at number one. A search for Disney, topranked Disney.com and sections with it like Disney World, the Disney Channel and Walt Disney Pictures.

5:06Yet interesting alternative sites like Werner's unofficial Disney park links also made it to that list. Now, let's just take an aside here. I'm just going to go to google.com as we speak. I'm going to take Disney and I'm going to read you what's on there. So the first things at the top are all sponsored. It's sponsored and then tickets and tours is a very big font. And then there's five different options to buy something on trip.com, some sort of vacation package. And then another thing from a company called Undercover Tourist. And then the results are Disney.com and Disney Plus and Walt Disney World.

5:44But those are the smallest thing on this page compared to the Disney Store link in Vegas and the four or five different sponsored pieces of content. And if you scroll down, it's Disney products, YouTube Disney, Disney on X, Disney Parks. Oh, this is all pretty good. But no original content. There's like 100 ,000 different Disney blogs that just aren't on there. Google don't give a shit. But they used to. Google also outclassed the competition on a technical level. as noted by Brian Durrell, former senior director of production operations at AltaVista. In a Hacker News post, he blamed AltaVista's demise on its failure to update its result indexes, which in turn meant that many of their front page results led to outdated or dead links.

6:25And I quote, This was particularly bad because one of our earliest strong points was fresh indexes. Our ability to refresh the supplementary index on the fly was awesome. When you lose one of your primary strengths, it's noticeable, he said. adding that the decline in AltaVista's index quality was due to a loss of focus within the company. Oh, would hate for that to happen to Google. Google was at the time, both objectively and subjectively, better than anything else. And so it grew. And like I said, last episode, it became a verb, kind of like how we say Photoshop instead of airbrush or Xerox instead of photocopy and better offline listener instead of average criminal.

7:03Not only did it fend off its earliest competitors, but it also brushed past anyone that would try to steal its market share, like damp Musk acolyte Jason Calacanis' Mahalo, which was a human-curated search engine a bit like the early version of Yahoo, and Kull, which emphasized its larger search indexes and privacy-centric ethos as distinguishing factors. Just so we're clear, being popular or superior is not an antitrust violation. No. No, no, no. That's not the problem. What Google did afterwards was the problem, and in the eyes of Judge Mehta and the US government was also illegal. As I know, a lot of the things I'm about to cite are from this ruling, which makes linking to them kind of hard.

7:43Please don't be mad at me. But much of this ruling discusses something called distribution, which refers to how Google makes its search product accessible to users. The Google website is the most obvious example of that, but it also includes browser and device integrations. You ever wonder why the default browser option on Safari and Firefox is Google? I kind of said it last episode. It's because Google pays these companies a lot of money. In the United States, half of all searches happen through an access point where Google is paid to be the default. A further 20 % come through Google Chrome, which is made by Google, and thus it follows that Google is the default search engine.

8:20A little monopoly in your monopoly. Pimp my ride. Only 30 % of US search queries take place in environments where Google is not the default browser, which is not to say that all those searches are going to DuckDuckGo or Bing, but rather that consumers have made an active decision to use whatever browser they've selected. And while you could argue that the consumers could choose to change the default on Safari or Firefox to something other than Google, the reality is, as shown by Google's own internal research and communications, that most consumers either don't know how or just don't care to. Another internal study mentioned in the judgment, this time from 2020, showed that half of all US iPhone users didn't even know what search engine they were using.

9:03The ruling also points out that in some cases, there are inherent points of friction that dissuade users from changing their default search engine. Switching on Android was arguably more difficult than on iOS, the ruling said, also noting that the smaller screen of a smartphone and general fiddliness of things was a further deterrent. Google's own estimates show that if it lost search placement on iOS to another provider, it would lose between 60 and 80 % of its traffic, just because of how tricky it is to change these default settings. And so you're starting to get an understanding of the importance of these default placement deals for Google and how critical they are to its bottom line.

9:41In 2021, Mozilla made 80 % of its operating budget, or$400 million, by selling default placement to Google too. These monopolies have real consequences. Apple, meanwhile, earns a percentage of advertising revenue from queries made from Safari and Chrome, even though Apple doesn't actually bundle Chrome with its devices. In 2022, this amounted to about$20 billion, which was double the figure of 2020, and amounted to one-sixth of Apple's operating profit from that year. Google also has signed deals with several US carriers like T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT &T, as well as other Android manufacturers, including Samsung and Motorola.

10:17The terms of these deals differ between companies, but they usually account for a percentage of ad revenue, with the actual percentage varying from contract to contract. While these deals are undoubtedly good for the balance sheets of these companies, they do impose restrictions on what these companies can do. Take Samsung, for example, which has around 31 % of US smartphone market share, second only to Apple. In 2019, Samsung wanted to integrate technology from a startup called Branch, which would allow users to search for content within installed applications, as well as, to a limited extent, content from the internet, although it was not, to be clear, a proper search engine in any real sense.

10:54Despite how there was a little bit of initial excitement around this, Samsung also saw, and kind of became clear, that the way Branch worked conflicted with their agreement with Google, and so the software had to be reworked in a way that massively limited its functionality. While the partnership went ahead, it was nowhere near as lucrative as Branch first hoped. The software was crippled, and thus much less attractive. Similarly, AT &T also wanted to pre-install Branch on its devices, but decided against it when it couldn't get clarity from Google whether it violated the terms of its revenue-sharing deal.

11:28Google, it seemed, simply stonewalled AT &T into submission. And this is again going back to the Matt Stoller interview I did. When you have rules like this, when you have monopolies, they do operate like miniature governments. And indeed, this is an example. Google didn't even need to intimidate these people in most cases. They just made enough money and they were scared enough of violating the deal that they literally made their devices worse. They didn't install cool software for fear that Google might sue them and cut off a lucrative revenue share. It's nasty. Even Apple, a company that is, at varying times, close to or the most valuable company in the world, found itself constrained by this devil's deal with Google.

12:08At one point, Google insisted on altering the terms of its agreement to prevent Apple from suggesting relevant links to users through the Safari search bar, as such a feature would be, and I quote, substantially similar to Google search. Apple, for what it's worth, has said that it did not feel constrained by these restrictions, which makes it fine with me then. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'd argue that they would say that because they were making$20 billion each year from Google. And if I'm honest, if somebody gave me$20 billion, I'd let them do whatever they wanted. Hit me with a baseball bat.

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17:04It has exclusivity. And as the ruling found, that exclusivity has allowed Google to raise prices at will, looking to see how far it can push advertisers before they walk away, you know, to the other place they can advertise to this many people. In 2017, the company ran an experiment where it strongly increased certain prices for a cohort, 15%, of advertisers for six weeks. It found that half of the initial revenue gained stuck, and found that there was no significant evidence that advertisers were changing what products they bought. Google would later do further studies where it significantly hiked prices on advertisers, and each time, it learned that it could charge more without losing them.

17:44While Google acknowledged there was a limit to how far it could push things, they believed that there was still more value to extract from its customers, and so it set upon a strategy of gradually, though significantly I should add, raising prices across short intervals. As an aside, and god damn is this company so fucking evil, they should be eradicated from existence. The fact that people like this function in good society is only proof that there are things wrong in the world. Every time I read about them I feel poison in my veins. But there's more. These price rises, Judge Mehta noted Were often timed when Google was at risk of not meeting its revenue goals And when the company was at risk of showing some sort of slowdown in its ads business Hey, remember the code yellow from 2019 from the man that destroyed Google search?

18:28That was all around raising metrics because they were worried about query growth Google does not care They will do whatever they need to to make revenue They will make your products worse they will make it more expensive for advertisers to advertise to you. And it's all thanks to their goddamn monopolies. And these changes, these increases to the pricing of advertising and the way that they took money from advertisers, they were done with this insane lack of transparency. And this is really stomach-turning, this beer. This company, like, people should be in jail for this. Google didn't tell advertisers that the costs were going up, but rather they were timing these increases so that these increases could be dismissed as noise or ordinary price fluctuations generated within advertising auctions.

19:14The last point is important, by the way, as Google also tried to rig these auctions in their own favor. One way they accomplished this, by the way, is by removing the ability for advertisers to remove themselves from certain auctions. When someone buys a text ad on Google, what they're really doing is selecting a keyword or keywords under which they want their ads to appear. The problem is that people may use different words for a search with the same intent. So one person might say kids' clothing, where another might say children's clothing. And this is a problem for advertisers because you want to make sure that you capture the audience you want, right?

19:44And this is a problem that Google fixed by adding other relevant keywords to an advertiser's bid without telling them. Now, this might seem like a nice thing that Google did, making sure that your money goes further, right? The problem is, as the ruling showed, that Google interpreted the word relevant in the broadest way possible. So kids' clothing would, as one shot shown in the ruling showed, include phrases like newborn children's clothing or kids' clothing Canada or TJ Maxx kids' wear. And what's great is, if you don't like this, you have no one else to advertise with, no other choices. And while Google initially allowed advertisers to opt out of this feature, which they called semantic matching, or use a limited version that would only include grammatical variations like pluralization, so children clothing, children's clothing, and so on and so forth, they of course remove these options.

20:34This means that unless the advertiser explicitly states what keywords they don't want their advert to appear under, they're going to be bid on search results that aren't relevant to their needs. And guess who controls what are relevant? Google. Google. Google's the one that tells you how much money to spend on Google. You don't like it, well, you can work with Google to advertise on Google, and otherwise you can go fuck yourself. And this in turn increases the amount of advertisers bidding for space in an auction, which in turn results in higher prices for advertisers in a completely unpredictable way that's predictably evil.

21:09Not only does Google control the supply, they literally control the demand. And while Google at one point provided advertisers with detailed information about their matched keywords and the algorithmically selected ones at that, it no longer does so. As a result, advertisers are effectively forced to guess what keywords their ad might appear under, and they have no other vendor to go to who might be a little more transparent. This in turn, by the way, pushes them to larger advertising agencies who have a better relationship with Google, who might have keyword banks that they know that they can cut out so that the advertising dollars are more efficiently spent.

21:41This in turn makes advertising agencies, especially the bigger ones, more powerful and hurts small businesses. It's so cool watching this happen. It doesn't make me angry at all. But in his ruling, Judge Mehta found that Google's practices had degraded the quality of its text advertisements and charged super competitive prices for text advertisements. At the same time, by maintaining Google's stranglehold on the search market, they effectively limited how much rivals, like Bing, can make from advertising. Even if Microsoft built a better ad tech platform than Google, its share of spending would remain in line with its market share.

22:16And I quote here, By locking in a huge comparative query volume advantage through its exclusive agreements, Google ensures that advertisers will continue to spend 90 % of their text ad dollars with Google, regardless of increases in price or decreases in quality. That is an anti-competitive effect in the marketplace. And that's Judge Metter who said that, and he's bloody well right. So what happens next? There's four unlikely outcomes here, each with their own advantages or disadvantages, and their own level of probability have come into pass. And hat tip, by the way, to Adam Kovacic for highlighting these.

22:49Google may be ordered to cease engaging in default search deals Kind of the most obvious one Leaving the likes of Apple, Samsung and Mozilla Free to sign agreements with other search providers Although these agreements would Almost certainly be less favorable than their current ones And indeed would be I don't know Competitive It's gonna be a mess As the ruling showed Both Apple and Mozilla have at times Flirted with or been courted by the likes of Microsoft and Yahoo Although the terms were never as favorable as I mentioned And guess what? They didn't take them Judge Meta might, although the how is pretty difficult here as Apple and Mozilla aren't defendants in this case, force browser developers to offer users a ballot screen where people could choose what search engine they'd like to use.

23:31This would probably boost the market share of smaller search providers by a small degree, although I imagine most would just opt, either through habit or preference, to pick Google. At the very least, until a viable alternative gains momentum. But this is still a start. It's still good. Well, then again, it's entirely possible that people might try something new, and either because they like what they've selected or through sheer inertia, they don't go back to Google. As Google's data shows, this is a real threat, especially on mobile, which accounts for a massive portion of its search traffic and thus its ad revenue.

24:04Google may be forced to share click and query data with rivals, although again, this poses its own thorny issues, especially when it comes to privacy. At the very least, it should at least tell advertisers what keywords they're buying and give them meaningful opportunities to opt out of irrelevant queries. While this sounds like a minor slap on the wrist, it has the potential to cost Google billions. Google's made so much money from forcing advertisers to buy slots on searches they don't want or care about, and by forcing people into auctions against their will or knowledge. When buyers are empowered, it follows that the price of ads will decrease, commensurate with the lower levels of demand.

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24:37And I don't know, consumer choice is good, and Google does not like consumer choice, so I assume it's less profitable to let people choose things. But finally, Judge Meta may order the actual breakup of Google, compelling the company to divest Chrome, Android, or more than likely its advertising division. This remedy is arguably the most potent, and one that Google is most likely to oppose, and it's also the most funny. But let's get into why it's thorny. Chrome and Android are based on open-source products, the Chromium Project and the Android Open Source Project, respectively. And short of prohibiting Google from contributing code or providing funding, it would have a leading role in these developments and thus real influence.

25:18Moreover, Google's presence in Android isn't just in the operating system itself, but everything else, called Google Mobile Services or GMS. GMS is the package of software that turns an Android phone into a Google phone. It includes the apps that come pre-installed when you buy a Samsung or Xiaomi phone like Gmail, Google Chrome, Google Assistant and so on. And also Google Gemini. as well as the APIs that allow third-party applications to integrate with them. Any ruling that doesn't force Google to divest these components is, for the most part, toothless. And any ruling that says effectively that Google can no longer build apps, or rather build apps for the mobile OS it's most closely associated with, it's kind of hard to imagine.

25:57Moreover, Google could also just ditch Android. It's already working on its own OS, called Fuchsia. It's already using Fuchsia in production devices, though it's unclear how invested they are in the project. And as I've previously mentioned in the last episode, I don't know how much staying power anything new in Google actually has. Combine this with native support for existing Android apps, which it likely already has, and if not could be implemented as others like Microsoft and Huawei have pretended to, it would effectively skirt any restrictions imposed on Google's involvement in Android proper.

26:28The biggest, scariest thing for Google would be any separation of church and state between Google search and its advertising platform. Doing so would be potentially ruinous for this company, which is why Google will do literally anything to stop it. But it's the remedy that would actually change things. Google's lack of competition in search is a symptom of its ability to set pricing in terms of advertising on search. And it's a problem that can be solved by removing its ability to do so. And let's face it, Google search doesn't make that much money on its own. The thing that brings home the bacon is the ads on search and the ads you get with each query.

27:04If the ad business becomes its own separate entity, Google will have to entirely rethink how it monetizes search. And for Sundar Pichai, that's a terrifying thought. I mean, what does he do? How do you rig the tables if you don't own the casino? And by the way, I'm in beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada. They never rig the tables here. That's sacrilegious. But it's not like there's another business for him to fall back upon. As I discussed at the end of the last episode, Google's largely lost the ability to innovate and execute on new ideas. And any new ideas that do eventually hit the market are usually, and often just in a few months, murdered.

27:41The bolt gun comes out. K-chunk! They throw them in the open grave with Google Reader. But seriously, what does Google have other than products that directly lead to its own advertising technologies? What is there besides cloud? And even cloud is a marginal player at best when compared to Microsoft's Azure and Amazon's AWS. There's nothing. But before you get too excited, it is worth noting that Google will no doubt fight this ruling to the very end using every single avenue of appeal, every dirty trick until they're successful or they've run out of options. These little fuckers are going to go after everything and they're going to look specifically in appeal, which by the way, little Apple at court session for you here.

28:22And if there's a lawyer listening, I'm sorry. Basically, appellate court appeals are not a retrial of the facts. It is a procedural thing. They'll be looking to see whether Judge Meta messed up. And I'll tell you a little bit about how that's happened in the past and how bad that is. And why I'm a little worried it might work. Sure, there's now a bipartisan dislike of big tech. And I don't think any of the recently appointed Supreme Court judges, other than the ones that might be on the take, I don't know. I don't think they care about Google. Trump doesn't like Google. Harris doesn't like Google.

28:53I don't think anyone that's coming up is going to be like, we must protect the most evil tech company of them all other than Meta. They hate them. And Google search is bad for most people. Most people realize this is a problem. And this ruling, by the way, despite it being extremely long, is really worth reading. It was very forensic in its case against Google. The facts on the ground and those obtained through discovery, they're pretty hard to argue with. On the flip side, Google also has near unlimited funds to throw at this legal battle, which, as I'll point out in a bit is absolutely existential for Google.

29:25And they're lobbying to try and change their fate. I hope they lose. And depressingly, the US hasn't proven particularly effective at curbing this horrible monopoly bullshit in the past. And I'm going to tell you why. But before I do that, do you have money? Do you have a wallet? Are there credit cards in the wallet? Perhaps this upcoming product might be a thing that you could stick your credit card in. Or maybe it's a podcast that you could download for free. I don't know. I'm not an advertiser. I'm just the guy speaking before the ads. Now, the ads that follow, they're directly chosen from my brain.

30:01They have a neural link inside me. I've got the third neural link, and it's connected to the ad server with the company. And that's why all of these ads are so well targeted. Pleased to enjoy.

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32:35And we're back. But now it's time for a little history lesson and a story about how remarkably different the computing market could look today if legislation had actually succeeded. In the 1980s, MS-DOS rapidly emerged as the dominant operating system for IBM-compatible computers, and by the end of the decade, it held 80 % of the market. While its growth was in no small part due to Microsoft's chummy relationship with IBM, they also benefited from changing market conditions, some savvy tech and business moves, and a few missteps by the competitors. But no, it wouldn't be fair to ascribe Microsoft's success just to its vast resources and technical chops.

33:12It also resorted to strong-arming hardware manufacturers and to only selling computers with Windows or MS-DOS, or making Windows and MS-DOS artificially more preferable to buying an alternative. One tactic, which started in 1983 and continued until the mid-90s, was to force manufacturers to sell an MS-DOS license with each machine, even if the customer wanted something like BOS or OS2. This would be done by strong-arming vendors into buying licenses in bulk, and not, as you'd perhaps expect, by demand for the product because the product was better. Now, how'd they do this? What they did was they set the individual license price for an MS-DOS license so high that buying in bulk was basically the only way to do it, and outright refused to sell to any vendor that purchased alternatives.

33:55Or they just refused to sell them Windows. In the show notes, I've linked to the great paper from the summer 1995 issue of the Antitrust Bulletin Journal about this. It's sickening. Microsoft's insistence on bulk licensing agreements meant that asking for a competing operating system wouldn't actually reduce the cost of the computer. Instead, it would increase it because the vendor had already bought a specific number of licenses and they're incentivized to bundle the cost into each machine they sell. Buying a competing operating system like DRDOS would in fact mean paying twice for an operating system.

34:28It sucks. These licenses were typically only valid for two years, which, by the way, cost Microsoft. There was no price difference. They just chose this. And Microsoft didn't provide any refunds for unused licenses, meaning vendors had an incentive to aggressively offload them onto customers, like providing them for free or cheaply with anyone who bought a new computer or by framing MMS-DOS as a perk of a purchase. Another tactic designed to bolster sales of Microsoft's productivity software while crippling its rivals was to use secret APIs to control Windows that were only accessible to Microsoft software and not to anyone else.

35:03Microsoft's rivals claim that these public APIs were, generally speaking, not as good and meant that their software performed worse on Windows, which by the early 1990s had reached near monopoly status in the PC market. The YouTube channel Retrobytes goes into this practice in some detail if you're curious, and I'll link to that in the notes. Anyway, my point is that Microsoft was a bit of a bastard back then. Argue they still are. And by the mid-90s, they were already facing some scrutiny from the FTC which opened investigations and delivered a couple of little slaps on the wrist, which Microsoft, of course, fought.

35:34In 1995, Microsoft released Internet Explorer, its first entrant into the web browser market, which competed with early-style works like Mosaic as well as Netscape, which was the dominant player at the time, and Opera, which was rapidly gaining momentum. Microsoft knew the Internet was going to be a huge deal, and so it did everything it could to make Internet Explorer the dominant browser. This included bundling IE with Windows and structuring it so that you couldn't remove Internet Explorer without breaking parts of the operating system. Rivals also claimed that Internet Explorer benefited from hidden APIs, which in turn mean that competing browsers wouldn't work quite as well.

36:09In 1998, the US Department of Justice filed a suit against Microsoft, accusing it of breaching the Sherman Act, the same law that Judge Amit Mehta ruled Google violated, by establishing a near monopoly of the x86 computer market. And Microsoft lost. The trial and the release of Bill Gates' deposition tapes, which are hilarious. He responded with, I don't recall to most questions, and he asked for the definition of we and ask. Anyway, it was humiliating for Microsoft. In 2000, Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson ordered the breakup of Microsoft into two companies, one responsible for the operating system and one that would create applications.

36:43As you'd expect, Microsoft appealed, and the following year an appellate court reversed the ruling on a technicality, as Judge Jackson had improperly discussed the case with the media before its conclusion. While the findings of the case stood, Jackson's ruling was overturned, allowing Microsoft to reach a settlement with the Department of Justice. And so we got another slap on the wrist. Microsoft would have to share its private APIs with competitors and agreed to five years of monitoring, where a Department of Justice representative could, unannounced, show up to its offices and demand access to source code and records.

37:12The Department of Justice also created a technical committee, which consisted of three experts, none of whom could be recent Microsoft employees or contractors, to ensure their compliance. Microsoft could, however, keep bundling software like Internet Explorer with its operating system, which meant that its near monopoly on the browser market would remain relatively unchallenged for another eight years until Google Chrome arrived. I don't take any pleasure in saying that I loathe Google. As someone who grew up on the internet, it was really the product that showed me the possibilities of the web and expanded my horizons with every search and click.

37:46I used Google the shit done. I still do. None of us like that Google's bad. I wish it was good. It was. And as I've already said, I've said this a lot of times, it was a really good product at the time. And it was good like five, 10 years ago, I swear. But now it's become corrupted. Now Google is just at its core rotten. This company used to say, don't be evil. I know one of the early jokes in the show was the Lionel Hutz thing with the red marker and it's don't, comma be evil exclamation mark but that's kind of what it is now they just distort markets they block competition they don't give a fuck about you they don't give a fuck about their advertisers they know everyone's trapped in the system they're also just boring now i remember when google launched gmail i remember the hubbub i remember people selling the invites on ebay it was genuinely cool and it was far superior to everything else on the market hotmail yahoo mail they were dog shit in comparison, you know I'm right.

38:43Google Docs, Google Reader, RIP, and even Google Fiber were all ambitious, clever, and worthwhile products that actually people like and use and are happy with. Now we have Android phones with AI features that nobody wants. These horrible, dreadful generative AI tools that mislead and misrepresent, and a family of products that, while once genuinely were useful, they feel like stale and unhelpful. They don't feel like they're made for human beings. They feel like little experiments, except we're the rats. Man, that's cliche. Oh, well. And there's a genuine chance here, though. There really is.

39:20I know I've kind of given you a little bit of a cynical view. There is a chance here that if Judge Meta truly punishes Google, that it could genuinely fix this company by destroying it. And I think that's a good thing for the future of the tech industry. Google, as a company, used to be symbolic of a kind of stable equilibrium in capitalism, a profitable company that made societally useful products, ones that changed lives mostly for the better, with a culture that actively encouraged a kind of digital experimentation that in turn led to better, cooler products like Gmail and Google News. And let me just be really abundantly clear, that company is dead.

40:01Google, as you know it, is dead. What remains is Alphabet, a private equity firm run by a management consultant, hiring other management consultants to dump money into dominating industries and extracting as much value as possible before the markets collapse. Google is lazy, languid, ugly, bereft of innovation, and bereft of the kind of culture that made it so powerful in the first place. This isn't a company full of genius engineers allowed to do great work. It's a company run by arseholes. It's a company run by management consultants. Sundar Pishai. He is cancerous to innovation. He makes$200 million making products worse yet more profitable.

40:40Prabhagar Raghavan is a poison in the veins of Silicon Valley. And Liz Reed is a class traitor to the engineers that actually care about creating great products at 1600 Ampitheater Parkway. The company, Google, deserves to be obliterated because in its current form, it has defaulted on its duty to the tech industry, to its customers, and even to its own mission. The only way to fix Google is to destroy it and to force it to start earning customers again. To fix the tech industry, we must obliterate every single one of these monopolies. Meta's hold on advertising. Apple's hold on the App Store.

41:17Google's hold on search and its associated advertising arms. Every single one flies in the face of why you and I love technology and runs counter to the notion that Silicon Valley has a meaningful place in society. All of these people, they talk about the meritocracy. They talk about earning one's place, that it's hard graft and burning that makes these great companies. But look at them. Do any of these companies really look like they're built out of hard work? No. They're giant cons. Cons wrapped in companies, wrapped in monopolies, wrapped in bullshit that makes products worse. Big tech had a really good thing going.

41:54Big tech made so much money without really trying that hard. And all they had to do was not get too greedy, but they did. They always do. So we as a society should reject companies over a certain size, and we should indeed reject everything that big tech is saying about their hard work. The generative AI boom is disgusting, and it's disgusting because it shows such an incredible contempt for society itself, for the creators that it's depriving of a future because bosses are lazy and don't trust their customers or care about their customers enough to provide them with real things made by real humans.

42:30Generative AI is just proof that these companies can't innovate anymore. It's proof that they don't care about the customer enough to create something useful. And honestly, it shows that they don't know how to run real companies anymore. So I challenge you, the listener, to continue to critique these companies, to move away from their software where you can, and I know how impossible that is because of these monopolies. But I also encourage you to talk to your friends, your family, especially those not super online, and tell them about monopolies. Tell them about this podcast, sure. But talk to them about monopolies.

43:02Make monopolies general parlance in good conversation. Look for the monopolies in your life. Look at how people have successful businesses, not from providing a great product, but from fucking everyone around them. From cheating. Because that's what a monopoly is. it's a cheat a cheat by a lazy person a cheat by an incurious person a cheat from a scumbag and you're not like them i know that and i want you to talk about monopolies in your general life i know it sounds silly i know it sounds ridiculous like talking to regular people about this but these monopolies ruin your life these monopolies are where so many pain points in your lives come from, both in tech and in your regular lives.

43:48Thank you so much for listening to this. Thank you so much for giving me your time. And as I've kind of hinted before, we've been renewed for a second season. You've got a few more episodes of season one before season two starts, and nothing's really going to change. But again, I'm so grateful to have you as listeners. I really am. It's a pleasure to do this, and it's a pleasure to serve you. And I will be trying to make it better. I don't really have a way of monopolizing anything. And also, I don't think I have that in me. I'm just too pissed naturally. Have a great week.

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In this episode, Ed Zitron walks you through how Google used their monopolies over search and search advertising to scam advertisers - and why the entire tech industry should demand that Google is broken up and forced to compete like the rest of us. 

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