In short
Warby Parker’s shift from online-only to omnichannel (pop-ups, mobile store, then stores) as it tries to compete with Luxottica/Essilor’s vertical integration; later, the industry’s smart-glasses arms race (Del Vecchio, Meta/Ray-Ban) and Warby Parker’s move into intelligent eyewear.
Guests
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Key claims
Warby’s early success created operational bottlenecks (20,000 backlogged orders). Customers still want to try frames in person, driving store expansion. Luxottica’s vertical integration (design-to-retail) culminates in the Essilor merger, controlling eyewear supply chain. Smart glasses can cannibalize profits but also define the future; Meta wants scale/data, Luxottica wants margins.
Notable examples
Warby’s doctor-try-on in the founders’ apartment; Soho pop-up and a converted school-bus store; Warby’s Buy-A-Pair-Give-A-Pair program; Luxottica/Essilor merger (2017) and later smart-glasses deals (Zuckerberg/Meta, 2019); Warby partnering with Google/Samsung for “Intelligent Eyewear” (2026).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWarby Parker's Rocky Start
0:29 to 5:50
The founders of Warby Parker face early success and challenges.
“It's March 2010, and in Philadelphia, the four panicked founders of Warby Parker are grappling with a problem they never imagined, being too successful.”
Ad for Dan Taberski's Manifesto
5:50 to 6:51
Promo for the podcast 'Dan Taberski's Manifesto'.
“in the parking lot of their apartment complex.”
Luxottica's Dominance and Response
6:51 to 8:08
An overview of Luxottica's market position and Warby Parker's entry.
“In the last episode, Luxottica founder Leonardo Del Vecchio aggressively built a global eyewear empire by refashioning Ray-Bans, seizing Sunglass Hut by force, and beating Oakley into submission.”
Warby Parker's Growth Strategies
8:08 to 14:00
Warby Parker explores new strategies to expand and compete.
“It's 2013, three years since Warby Parker launched.”
The Merger Dynamics of Luxottica and Essilor
14:00 to 16:32
Learn about the complexities and cultural clashes in the merger negotiations between Luxottica and Essilor.
“Delvecchio holds his gaze for a moment, then switches the subject.”
Delvecchio's Return: A Leadership Shift
16:34 to 18:18
Discover the implications of Delvecchio's decision to return to Luxottica's leadership amidst ongoing merger talks.
“On a crisp green lawn, executives, employees, and clients have gathered in their best clothes.”
The Strategic Vision Behind Luxottica's Merger
19:01 to 27:31
Explore Delvecchio's motivations and the broader implications of his merger with Essilor.
“Soon he was persuading other Americans to betray their country as well.”
Warby Parker's Disruptive Retail Strategy
27:31 to 28:00
Learn how Warby Parker is redefining retail with a vertical integration strategy focused on customer experience.
“program, where for every pair of glasses it sells, it donates a pair to someone in need.”
Warby Parker's Financial Struggles and Industry Challenges
28:00 to 29:00
Learn about Warby Parker's financial issues and the challenges posed by industry giants.
“and that makes customers feel more positive about the purchase, more likely to tell others about the brand, and more likely to come back for their next pair.”
Power Struggle at Essilor Luxottica
29:00 to 30:18
Discover the internal conflicts and power dynamics within Essilor Luxottica.
“And Leonardo Del Vecchio didn't come out of retirement to lose.”
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Mark Zuckerberg's Collaboration with Luxottica
30:18 to 32:53
Explore the partnership between Facebook and Luxottica for innovative eyewear.
“When he agreed to the merger, Saniere believed he and Delvecchio were aligned, that he would become the sole CEO, Saniere.”
Delvecchio's Control and the Pandemic's Impact
32:53 to 35:18
Understand how Delvecchio's leadership was challenged during the pandemic.
“Wearers should also be able to switch off the tech and enjoy the frames as normal Ray-Ban sunglasses.”
Warby Parker's IPO and Market Realities
35:18 to 37:54
Learn about Warby Parker's public offering and the financial realities that followed.
“But while the pandemic is damaging Essilor Luxottica, Warby Parker is growing.”
Adaptations and Layoffs at Warby Parker
37:54 to 39:42
Examine how Warby Parker adapts and manages layoffs amid financial pressures.
“need to do something to stop the stock price from falling.”
Future Innovations and Competition in Eyewear
39:42 to 42:04
Analyze Warby Parker's new strategies and the competitive landscape of eyewear.
“In New York City, Blumenthal and Gilboa sit in a TV studio, looking confident and smiling.”
The Smart Glasses Dilemma
42:04 to 44:55
Explore the challenges Warby Parker faces against Meta's pricing strategy.
“but they think they've spotted an opening, the same one they've always exploited.”
Tension Between Meta and Luxottica
44:55 to 45:07
Understand the conflicting goals of Meta and Essilor Luxottica in the eyewear market.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:28Hey, Business Wars fans, have you heard?
0:34It's March 2010, and in Philadelphia, the four panicked founders of Warby Parker are grappling with a problem they never imagined, being too successful. Their online glasses store launched a month ago. At the same time, the brand was featured in GQ and Vogue, and then all hell broke loose. The magazine features sparked an avalanche of orders. Within just three weeks, they hit their sales target for the entire year. They started selling out of styles, only to realize their hastily assembled website doesn't have the functionality to add a sold-out sign, and it'll take their Chinese suppliers months to produce and ship new stock.
1:18Now, they're looking at a backlog of 20 ,000 customers, wanting to know why the frames they ordered and paid for are going to take weeks to arrive. In the Philadelphia apartment that doubles as their headquarters, the founders are working frantically. David Gilboa is on the phone to the website's developer trying to get a sold-out tag sorted quickly. We need it like yesterday. Can we move any faster than that? Orders are still coming in. Nearby, co-founders Andy Hunt and Jeffrey Rader have enlisted as many friends and family as they can to help pack boxes with glasses and ship them out as quickly as possible.
1:57Warby Parker's fourth founder, Neil Blumenthal, hunches over his laptop, responding to the nonstop emails coming in from disappointed customers. His cell phone vibrates on the desk. He doesn't recognize this number. Hello? Hi, is this Warby Parker? Uh, yeah. Sorry, yes, yes it is. I'm Neil Blumenthal, one of the founders. How can I help you? Well, I just got your email that one of the styles I ordered is going to take longer to arrive. Yes, I'm really sorry about that. We've just launched and... See, the thing is, I don't have time to wait. I noticed you're based in Philadelphia. What about I just come to you and try on some of the other styles?
2:42Blumenthal's eyes widen in panic as he looks around his apartment. Boxes are piled up to the ceiling. The remnants of fast food orders, beer bottles, coffee cups are littered everywhere. Debris from their struggle to push through the long days and nights. Uh, well, we're actually an online company, so we don't really have a headquarters as such. But it doesn't need to be fancy. I just need the glasses and a mirror. Please? Well, I guess you can come to my apartment. That's kind of where we're based at at the moment. You got a pen? I'll give you the address. One hour later, there's a knock at the door.
3:22Blumenthal scans the room one last time. After he hung up, the sense of panic in the apartment became more frenzied as everyone rushed around cleaning and clearing up as much as they could. Now, Blumenthal's dining table is covered in neat rows of folded glass frames with a mirror sitting in front. Yeah, hi. You must be the man who called earlier? The man at the door is wearing hospital scrubs. Yeah, sorry to barge in, but I'm a doctor at the hospital around the corner. I just need a new pair of glasses I can get real fast without paying an arm and a leg for them. Hey, thanks so much for doing this.
3:58I really appreciate it. The doctor notices the rows of glasses and eagerly heads over to the dining table. Blumenthal holds the mirror and all four friends get involved in helping the doctor pick out his frames. Having found the perfect glasses, he looks around the room with a smile. So, you guys literally just launched? Yep, this is it, warts and all. Well, I think it's a great idea. I've never understood why glasses cost so much, and these frames look great. Hey, thanks for helping me out, too. I'll be sure to recommend you. Well, thanks. Although, maybe wait till we get our new inventory in.
4:40Over the next few weeks, Blumenthal notices something odd. Lots of orders are coming in from people at the same hospital where the doctor works. Warby Parker might be an online business, but by going out of its way to provide great customer service and offering a place to try on their frames, they've just secured hundreds more customers. Blumenthal wonders which was really more important to the doctor, the service, or physically trying on the styles. He wonders if they could be missing out by being online only. He files this thought away to ponder later. Right now, none of them have the time to do anything beyond trying to keep up with online demand.
5:25They need more inventory, and they need to prove their overnight success isn't just a gimmick. But the idea that their business might need to think beyond the online world will eventually take root and reshape Orby Parker's attempt to challenge the market giant, Luxonica.
5:49Police in Irvine, California are investigating the double murder of a young couple in the parking lot of their apartment complex. A double homicide grabs the public's attention by the throat. We have identified Christopher Dorner as a suspect in this double homicide. A former cop and still on the loose. Considered armed and extremely dangerous. And scariest of all, he left something behind. A particular interest is a multi-page manifesto. This manifesto on Facebook is 11 pages long. Trace, this manifesto from this suspect who's targeting cops, it's stunning. Listen to the show The New Yorker calls one of the best podcasts of the summer, Dan Taberski's manifesto.
6:30And I tell you, this manifesto, it scares the hell out of me. Listen to Dan Taberski's manifesto wherever you get your podcasts or binge the entire series right now, only with Audible.
6:50From Audible Originals, I'm David Brown, and this is Business Wars.
7:18In the last episode, Luxottica founder Leonardo Del Vecchio aggressively built a global eyewear empire by refashioning Ray-Bans, seizing Sunglass Hut by force, and beating Oakley into submission. But as its control over every part of the eyewear business grew, so did the prices consumers paid. And that inspired four business school students to try undercutting Luxottica by setting up an online store, Warby Parker. Now, the four are struggling to keep up with demand for their stylish yet low-priced frames. Their challenge is to find a way to build on that rapid early success and become a real threat.
8:07This is Episode 2, Getting Vertical.
8:15It's 2013, three years since Warby Parker launched. The early issues are gone. Its first investment round reaped an impressive$12 million, and Warby Parker is currently running TV ads promoting itself as the online disruptor of eyewear retail. Looking for a new pair of glasses, are we? Seek no further than the Internet. There you'll find us, Warby Parker, designers of superlative eyewear as worn by these stylish citizens. We offer our glasses for$95 per pair, including prescription lenses, by cutting out the greedy middleman. Co-founders Andy Hunt and Jeffrey Rader have stepped back from operations to explore other business interests, leaving David Gilboa and Neil Blumenthal to run the company as co-CEOs.
9:08And they are looking to take the business to the next level. They want Warby Parker to be one of the best e-commerce stores out there. Their plans include a webcam app where people can upload images of their face and have styles suggested for them. There'll also be a social media integration so people can share those photos with friends to get their opinions. But their boldest plan yet is moving into brick-and-mortar stores. It's a plan that makes Gilboa nervous. Warby Parker has pitched itself to customers and investors as an online disruptor, disruptor signing long-term leases on stores when their business is just three years old terrifies him.
9:51But that early encounter with the doctor at his apartment has stuck with Blumenthal. People might be willing to shop online for cheaper glasses, but they still prefer trying them on in person. To test the waters, they move into an office in Soho, New York, and turn a quarter of the floor space into a pop-up store that showcases all their different designs. What they didn't expect was this store would soon be tracking around$3 million in annual turnover. Encouraged by this development, they open up more pop-ups and convert a big yellow school bus into a mobile store so it can tour the country and test whether the concept will work outside Manhattan.
10:34The results are clear. Both the pop-ups and school bus beat sales expectations. All of this has convinced Blumenthal that thinking of digital as new is actually old-school thinking. He believes the marketplace has moved beyond being a binary choice of online or physical. The future, as he sees it, is blended, or as he calls it, omnichannel. And that's a future Luxottica still has to adapt to.
11:12It's June 2014, and at Luxottica's headquarters in Milan, Italy, CEO Andrea Guerra does a double-take upon seeing the arrival of the company's retired founder and majority shareholder, Leonardo Delvecchio. Delvecchio is almost 80, but he's still slim and sharp-suited. He stepped back 10 years ago to make way for Guerra. Since then, the company has increased its strength in terms of size, global reach, and profitability. But recent board meetings have been tense. Delvecchio has criticized Guerra as too corporate and process-driven and has berated him openly for not innovating digitally. Guerra knows this visit is unlikely to be a social one.
11:58He ushers Delvecchio into one of the lounge chairs in his office. Delvecchio looks disapprovingly at the soccer ball lying in the corner. Guerra usually has time to hide it away. Well, this is unexpected. What can I do for you, Mr. Delvecchio? Delvecchio hits him with a steely gaze. I've just seen the latest designs for Google Glass. Guerra resists the temptation to roll his eyes. In response to Delvecchio's demands to embrace digital technology, Guerra partnered with Google to create a groundbreaking pair of smart glasses. But Google Glass has already become a punchline. The original prototype has been widely ridiculed with Guerra's nicknamed Glass Holes.
12:41And Delvecchio is not impressed with the progress Luxottica has made so far. You have taken none of my suggestions on board. I would never wear these glasses. They look ridiculous. And how much do they cost to produce? We have made some significant design changes, but we're restricted with how the technology works. How much do you plan on spending on this fiasco? When I said we needed to be more digital, I meant in our approach. You've made this company too bureaucratic. We're not adapting fast enough. Look at Warby Parker. CNBC is calling them one of the top disruptors in retail. And who do you think they're disrupting?
13:24Us. With respect, sir, they barely register in the U.S. market. We cannot and should not try to copy every startup around the world. They are digital. They understand customer experience. And now they're beginning to understand the value of vertical integration. They've opened eight stores already. Five years ago, they didn't even exist. Wait, you aren't seriously comparing the two companies. They are tiny. Delvecchio leans forward, eyes narrowed. Luxottica was tiny when I started it. Delvecchio holds his gaze for a moment, then switches the subject. Where are we on the merger with Essilor? Essilor is a huge French company and the world's leading manufacturer of eyewear lenses.
14:14For Delvecchio, Essilor is the last piece in his vertical integration puzzle. If the merger of Essilor and Luxottica goes ahead, the resulting company will own and control every part in the journey of a pair of eyeglasses, from design to manufacturing to retail sale. But Essilor is resisting the merger. It doesn't want to be bought, and the company refuses to see itself as the junior partner in any merger. The negotiations have dragged on for more than two years, with no resolution in sight. Privately, Wera thinks this deal won't happen in the end. The two companies have completely different cultures.
14:57Essilor started as a cooperative for eyewear craftsmen. The company prides itself on that structure and its cutting-edge scientific and medical research too. while Luxottica behaves like a luxury fashion house and is dominated by its dictatorial founder. Vera delivers the same update he's been giving Delvecchio for months. We're still deadlocked over the issue of how many shares you will have in the merge company. Delvecchio presses his lips together in a thin line. Perhaps if you spent more time coming up with solutions and less time splashed on the front of newspapers, things would move more quickly.
15:36Hmm? Guerra lowers his eyes. He's become interested in politics and has made some passionate speeches at election rallies for the center-left. Many are now touting him as a candidate for a ministerial position, but Delvecchio regards such ambitions as a betrayal of Luxottica. This company comes first and foremost. Nothing else should matter to you. If you cannot understand this one simple fact, then perhaps I should return to being more involved. Are you saying you no longer need me? Delvecchio stands and buttons his suit jacket. I'm simply making the point that you are distracted and need reminding of your priorities.
16:23He leaves without saying goodbye.
16:32It's a few months later. On the banks of Lake Como in northern Italy, Luxottica is holding its annual summer party. On a crisp green lawn, executives, employees, and clients have gathered in their best clothes. Champagne glasses clink, children play. Canapes on silver platters weave between the crowd as laughter and chatter spill into the air. Guerra is there too, shaking hands and chatting to clients and employees. In the distance, he sees Delvecchio doing the same, accompanied by his wife and his grown children from his previous marriage. The two don't get an opportunity to speak, but that's not surprising.
17:14These events are always exhausting with too many people to talk to. And as the sun begins to drop and the shadows lengthen across the rippled water of the lake, Guerra thinks about calling it a night. As if on cue, one of Delvecchio's assistants appears and hands him a heavyweight envelope. Inside is a gilt-edged card with a single line, thank you for everything. Guerra looks up, confused, but the assistant is already gone. So are Delvecchio and his family. Guerra struggles to process the meaning of all this. He knows Del Vecchio is unhappy with some of his decisions, but there's nothing in the company's financial performance to justify his firing either.
18:03In the following weeks, it soon becomes clear that note was indeed his goodbye. The 80-year-old Del Vecchio announces he will be returning to take the reins of his beloved company once more, and he's already proven that his ruthless streak hasn't been dimmed by age.
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20:13It's May 2015, and on the veranda of a luxurious villa on the French Riviera, Leonardo Del Vecchio is having lunch with Hubert Sañer, the CEO of the world's biggest lens maker, Essilor. Since returning as CEO, Delvecchio has restarted merger discussions with Essilor. But while Saniere can see the advantages, the French company is too proud to be bought. Even so, the two have managed to find common ground around the idea that if the merger did happen, there would need to be a three-year transition period during which they would both stay on to ensure things go smoothly. Delvecchio pours more cold white wine into Sagnier's glass.
20:58And which of us will command the business after the three years? I will. I see. I am the younger man, and Essilor's manufacturing process is far more scientific and complex than that of making frames. Yes, that is true. You know, part of the reason I want this merger to happen is that I'm worried about succession planning. about what happens after I'm gone. This is a remarkable admission. Delvecchio has never been one to show weakness, not to competitors, not to his own executives. Sagnier studies him carefully to see if this is genuine. Delvecchio is 80 years old. Maybe he really is thinking about his legacy now, about building something that outlasts him.
21:47And if that's true, than Saniere's being offered exactly what Esselor has demanded all along, a path to leadership in the combined company. He allows himself a cautious smile. But the reality is, Delvecchio has no intention of surrendering his company to anyone but his most trusted lieutenants. His admission of vulnerability is a negotiating tactic and a devastatingly effective one.
22:25It's just over a year and a half later, on January 16, 2017. Luxottica and Essilor announce their mega-merger. The combined company will be worth more than$48 billion and boast annual revenues of nearly$16 billion. It's the culmination of Delvecchio's lifelong vertical integration dream. The result is a corporate behemoth that will control every aspect of iframes and lenses. As the details of the deal emerge, some of Delvecchio's faithful employees and journalists who know him well are shocked. Delvecchio seems to have given in to all of Essilor's demands. The new company will be headquartered in France, not in Italy, and it will be listed on the Paris Stock Exchange.
23:17He's even swapped out his 62 % stake in Luxottica for a 38 % share of the new company. For the first time, Delvecchio does not have majority control over the company he founded. There will also be a strict power-sharing arrangement for the first three years of the merger to allow a smooth transition. But the issue of who will become chief executive after that time remains unresolved. The creation of this new colossus also sparks fear among other eyewear companies. Together, Essilor Luxottica will control around 16 % of the global market. Just want to say something here about vertical integration.
24:02It sounds like business school jargon, but it's really about controlling as many links in the supply chain as possible. And that's what Delvecchio's always wanted to do. If you make it, move it, and sell it, you have fewer people taking a cut along the way. The upside is efficiency and leverage. the downside? Well, when a giant gets this integrated, smaller competitors often have to invent entirely different and unexpected ways to compete. And Delvecchio's mania for vertical integration is catching on.
24:44Over at Warby Parker, the company's founders are making their own version of the same bet by opening physical stores. Across America, Warby Parker's stores are popping up in neighborhoods like Hayes Valley in San Francisco, designed to be oases for shoppers. Inside, a wooden parquet floor stretches down a long, narrow hallway. The walls feature murals painted by local artists. Banquette seating invites people to sit while rows upon rows of backlit glasses line the walls alongside shelves of books from indie publishers. The vibe is that of a stylish library. At a time when traditional retailers are closing stores and scaling back, Warby Parker is going in the opposite direction.
25:32And that's because it has discovered that physical stores are driving its profits in sales. People tend to spend more in stores than they do online. and each time the company opens a new store, it drives up online sales in that area as well. Funny how quickly the conventional wisdom has changed. You know, not that long ago, everyone said the future belonged to online-only businesses. Now, companies that grew up on the internet are opening stores of their own or using bricks and mortar to complement their online presence. Bonobos started as an online menswear brand and now runs dozens of guide shops.
26:12Casper went from selling mattresses on the internet to opening sleep stores across the country. Here's the thing. A website is convenient, but a physical store, that builds trust, lets customers touch the product, gives you the advantage of a local presence. The new conventional wisdom? Physical stores as compliments to e-commerce, not competitors. Now, Warby Parker wants to go even further. Eventually, co-CEOs David Gilboa and Neil Blumenthal will want to open 900 stores in the U.S. and Canada. The goal is for these stores to offer customers everything in one place, including eye exams and optical labs.
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26:56It's vertical integration, Warby Parker style. And investors like the sound of that. Through successive funding rounds, the company has now raised$215 million. dollars, it's officially a unicorn. One of those select startups that venture capitalists think is worth at least one billion dollars. But while its business direction is changing, its values aren't. Since its inception, Warby Parker has had a social mission to help people across the world who don't have access to glasses. It delivers this through its Buy-A-Pair-Give-A-Pair program, where for every pair of glasses it sells, it donates a pair to someone in need.
27:39And by 2017, it's given away 2 million spectacles. But there's a business benefit behind this offer, too. Buy a pair, give a pair helps the brand stand out in a crowded market. It also means that when people buy their glasses from Warby Parker, they're not just buying something for themselves. They're also doing good. and that makes customers feel more positive about the purchase, more likely to tell others about the brand, and more likely to come back for their next pair. But it's also expensive. Gilboa admits the program is a drag on the bottom line and together with the push for growth, it's a reason why the company has yet to reach profit and that lack of profit is causing some financial journalists to question the hype around Warby Parker.
28:32Because behind the hyperbole, the company is burning through cash quickly and tying itself to lots of expensive, long-term brick-and-mortar leases. And that's causing some to wonder whether Warby Parker's success is a castle built on sand. But the company's biggest problem might not be its own finances. It might be what's happening at the tip-top of the industry. Because at Essilor Luxottica, the mega-merger is turning into a power struggle. And Leonardo Del Vecchio didn't come out of retirement to lose.
29:25later you've accidentally run a half marathon. You lost track of how far you've run somewhere just past the city limits. You can't stop. You have to find out what happens next. Then it's over. The universe seems bigger. You feel different. You feel like you have no idea where you are. Audible. Stories that speak to you.
29:57It's 2019, and in Paris, Essilor Luxottica Vice Chairman Hubert Sagnier is coming to an uncomfortable realization. He has invited a Trojan horse into the company he runs. The now-merged Essilor Luxottica is nearing the end of its three-year transition period. The power-sharing agreement with Leonardo Delvecchio will soon expire. When he agreed to the merger, Saniere believed he and Delvecchio were aligned, that he would become the sole CEO, Saniere. But the 83-year-old Luxottica founder, Delvecchio, is showing no sign of wanting to retire. Instead, he's actively maneuvering to take control once the transition period ends, using his position as the company's largest shareholder to dictate terms.
30:49and Saniere is finding it hard to fight back. Essilor's cooperative structure is now its weakness. No one from the Essilor side owns more than a 4 % stake in the business. With time running out, a power struggle erupts. Saniere accuses Delvecchio of trying to take over the merged company. Delvecchio responds by taking the spat public. Articles start appearing in the media, accusing Essilor of failing to consult the Italian half of the business on strategic decisions. But while Saniere is dealing with the consequences of underestimating the Italian eyewear king, Delvecchio is already looking ahead and moving to secure Essilor Luxottica's place at the forefront of eyewear technology.
31:46May 2019, Ogordo, Italy. A helicopter flies over the needle-like peaks of the Dolomite Mountains and lands on the grounds of the original Luxottica factory. Del Vecchio, straight-backed in his blue Armani suit, stands on the front steps of the factory, ready to welcome his guest. The man who emerges from the helicopter is Mark Zuckerberg, the 35-year-old billionaire founder of Facebook. He's dressed in casual clothes and gives a lopsided smile as he holds out his hand to Delvecchio. Zuckerberg is here to discuss designs for the new smart glasses that Facebook is developing, in partnership with Essilor Luxottica.
32:29Welcome over. They get to business. Facebook wants to create high-tech glasses that allow wearers to take photos, answer calls, get directions, and live stream, much like the failed Google Glass project. Delvecchio insists that the final frames must look like fashionable glasses first. The technology should be a hidden superpower. Wearers should also be able to switch off the tech and enjoy the frames as normal Ray-Ban sunglasses. Zuckerberg nods enthusiastically. He tells Delvecchio he wants these to be the coolest glasses ever, as well as the latest frontier in technology. His people have found ways to miniaturize the head-up display, speaker, and microphone hardware that will need to be added to the frames.
33:18As a result, wearers won't be able to see or feel the technology, and their Ray-Bans will look just like regular sunglasses. Delvecchio gives a satisfied smile. He may be old, but he knows that glasses will always be fashion items first and functional items second. Now, at last, he can see a way to merge the latest technology with classy, beautiful sunglasses. He also knows this will once again put Essilor Luxottica at the forefront of the industry, using its global heft to set a pace nobody else can keep up with, including Orby Parker.
34:03It's early 2020, and the world is in the grip of the COVID-19 pandemic. Del Vecchio is isolating in a villa in France. He's beginning to feel his age and frailty. In theory, he has achieved all his objectives. He's even emerged victorious in the power struggle for control of Essilor Luxottica, The uncovering of a massive fraud in Thailand at an Essilor factory helped put his French opponents on the back foot and eventually back down over control. Saniere and Delvecchio have both agreed to resign. But it's Delvecchio's hand-picked deputy from Luxottica who will become the new CEO of the combined company.
34:47And yet, for the first time in his life, Delvecchio feels worried. The pandemic has caused Essilor Luxottica's revenues to fall by double digits. Its stores have had to close. Demand for sunglasses has fallen. And eye exams are only being offered in urgent cases. This is what he's always been afraid of. No matter how big you are, something can always bring you crashing back to Earth. But while the pandemic is damaging Essilor Luxottica, Warby Parker is growing. Thanks to its online routes and processes, its sales are up 6%. And it's about to take advantage of that boost.
35:37In September 2021, Warby Parker finally goes public on the New York Stock Exchange. The company is valued at$6 billion, way above the initial estimates of$3 billion. And demand for shares is strong. But going public means opening up its accounts. The company has long been cagey when it comes to its profits. But now, it can't hide its financial performance. The company reveals that while it delivered revenues of almost$400 million in 2020, it had a net loss of around$56 million. This is one of those moments where private company mythology meets the reality of public markets. Revenue numbers sound awesome until you do the math and discover you're actually in the red.
36:25As a startup, investors are often willing to overlook those losses if they believe growth is coming. Once you're public, though, that patience has its limits. Eventually, the question changes from how fast are you growing to when does this actually make money? And next to Essilor Luxottica, Warby Parker still remains a minnow. Even in a dismal year, Essilor Luxottica delivered more than 35 times the revenues of Warby Parker and more than$100 million of profit. Right now, amid the buzz of its arrival on the stock exchange, few are worrying about Warby Parker's inability to deliver a profit. but investors' patience won't last forever.
37:16It's nine months later, June 2022, and it's the end of an era in the eyewear industry. Leonardo Del Vecchio has died at the age of 87 from complications with pneumonia. But his legacy, creating the biggest corporation in eyewear, is just as powerful as ever. at Warby Parker. The future is looking bleaker. The company is on track to deliver a net loss of over$100 million this year, and Wall Street is already growing impatient with the company's inability to wring profits out of its sales. Co-CEOs David Gilboa and Neil Blumenthal need to do something to stop the stock price from falling. So they start laying people off, But they can't call jobs at the physical stores.
38:07These are now the biggest drivers of sales, accounting for almost two-thirds of the company's revenue. Nowadays, the online glasses upstart really is a brick-and-mortar business. The co-CEOs don't want to scale back their efforts to expand into new parts of the eyewear market either. Doing that would put future growth prospects at risk and cause the stock price to fall. So the redundancies will need to come from their corporate leadership team. They decide that 15 % of jobs there will have to go. With heavy hearts, they also consider dropping some of the previous sacred cows in their business, foundations that their brand identity is built upon, including their try-at-home option.
38:54That was the idea that fueled Warby Parker's early success and helped them break into the monopolized eyewear market. But one retail consultant estimates it's costing them$100 million each year just in shipping costs. They start pouring through the data. If they can open up enough new stores so that every customer is within a 30-minute drive of one of their stores, Then maybe, just maybe, they can ditch the try-at-home offer without a backlash. The young guns are growing up, moving from a thrill-seeking startup to the realities of running a successful company. And growing up is painful.
39:42Four years later, May 2026. In New York City, Blumenthal and Gilboa sit in a TV studio, looking confident and smiling. They've finally managed to get a full year of profitability under their belt. Warby Parker now has 337 stores across the U.S. and Canada, enough to close down the try-on-at-home option and save a fortune on shipping costs. They've also expanded their range, offering glasses at a higher price point than their usual$95. Even so, the company's stock price has remained volatile. Investors still aren't sure of what Warby Parker's future looks like. So today, Blumenthal and Gilboa are announcing the company's move into wearable tech.
40:29Warby Parker is partnering with Google and Samsung on a range of glasses called Intelligent Eyewear. The first pairs will go on sale in the fall. Wearers will be able to ask questions of Google's AI tool, Gemini, while they're on the move. They offer an example question. How do I install this car seat? The glasses will take a photo, register the make and model, and speak the instructions back. Warby Parker hopes this will convince investors it can keep pace with market leader Essilor Luxottica. Because Delvecchio's instincts about smart glasses were proven right. Essilor Luxottica's Ray-Ban tech glasses, made in partnership with Facebook parent company Meta, turned wearable tech from a gimmick into a real contender in the eyewear market.
41:19Ray-Ban Metas look like a cool pair of sunglasses, and people rushed out to buy them. Since then, Essilor Luxottica has rolled out new versions of its own with increased functionality and expanded to other brands, including Oakley and Prada. Tech commentators now predict smart glasses could even replace smart watches. They're more convenient and more stylish. It's Delvecchio's final victory. Essilor Luxottica now owns three-quarters of the global smart glasses market. In 2025, the company sold more than 7 million pairs, more than three times the amount sold in 2023 and 2024 combined. Blumenthal and Gilboa know they can't risk Warby Parker falling behind, but they think they've spotted an opening, the same one they've always exploited.
42:15Affordability and practicality. The latest smart Ray-Bans retail at$800, with less advanced versions selling for around$400. Warby Parker plans to undercut them, just as it did with regular frames when it started. but they're about to have the rug pulled out from under them.
42:40One month later, in June 2026, Meta announces it's launching a line of Meta-branded frames that will be designed in-house and cost less than Ray-Ban and Oakley smart glasses. They'll still be manufactured by Essilor Luxottica, but these new glasses bring the retail price down below$300. It's a move that counters Warby Parker's intelligent eyewear range before it even launches. Yet, the rise of smart glasses isn't all good news for Essilor Luxottica. These smart glasses are far less profitable than their core product and are dragging down the company's operating profit as new competitors enter the marketplace.
43:23At the moment, the company's better off selling regular pairs of Ray-Bans than meta-enhanced ones. This is one of the oldest dilemmas in business. The next big thing can threaten the thing that's already making you rich. Companies have wrestled with this for generations, from analog cameras giving way to digital photography to streaming replacing DVDs. If you move too slowly, someone else owns the future. Think Blockbuster versus Netflix. Move too quickly, and you run the risk of cannibalizing the business that's paying the bills today. And this disconnect is causing tension between Meta and its eyewear partner.
44:04The tech giant wants smart glasses to be as affordable as possible because for Meta, the more people it has wearing the glasses, the more data it has. Meta cares less about the margin on each pair of frames than about helping train its AI tools. But Esselor Luxottica's goal is the opposite. to make as much profit as possible from every pair sold. Smart glasses are also causing Essilor Luxottica's stock price to soften as new competitors like Warby Parker and Apple announce plans to enter the market. Essilor Luxottica may have the upper hand for now, but its very success at convincing people to wear smart glasses may be a long-term threat to its own business model.
44:54And this time, it'll have to face that threat without the vision of Delvecchio.
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45:31From Audible Originals, this is Episode 2 of Warby Parker vs. Luxottica for Business Wars. A quick note about the recreations you've been hearing. In most cases, we can't know exactly what was said. Those scenes are dramatizations, but they're based on research. And if you would like to know more about this story, we recommend Leonardo del Vecchio by Tommaso Ebhardt And the Bloomberg article, Meta's AI Ray-Bans Spark Corporate Wrangling Over Pricing, by Danielle Lepido. I'm your host, David Brown. Judy Cooper of Yellow Ant wrote this story, researched by Marina Watson. Our senior producers are Jenny Bloom and Emily Frost.
46:11Our producer is Tristan Donovan of Yellow Ant. Karen Lowe is our producer emeritus. Our managing producer is Desi Blaylock. Fact-checking by Gabrielle Jolet. Sound design by Ryan Potesta. Kyle Randall is our lead sound designer. Executive producer for Audible, Jenny Lauer Beckman. Head of creative development at Audible, Kate Naven. Head of Audible Originals North America, Marshall Louis. Chief content officer, Rachel Giazza. Copyright 2026 by Audible Originals LLC. Sound recording copyright 2026 by Audible Originals LLC.
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Warby Parker is three weeks old and its online glasses store is proving so popular the brand’s in danger of burning out. But if it’s going to pose a real challenge to Luxottica, it needs to learn how to sustain that momentum.
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