

Cheap Heat episode centers on WrestleMania build talk, especially “who are the real heels in WWE” and how crowds react to specific stars. Hosts debate Becky Lynch’s heel heat (claim: she’s the most booed talent right now), compare it to Drew McIntyre, Gunther, Paul Heyman (heel manager, not wrestler), and discuss Randy Orton/Cody Rhodes boo trajectories. They also riff on algorithms feeding fight clips and celebrity content, plus real-world topics like Times Square billboards and California gas prices.
Becky’s promo with AJ; Drew McIntyre and Jacob Fatu “still fighting” at Sam’s Times Square billboard; Randy Orton allegedly not getting booed much; Roman Reigns on Jimmy Fallon; Bad News Brown’s ghetto blaster; Jelly Roll as a potential babyface star; Jade Cargill vs Rhea Ripley mic/face-off; Grayson Waller physique and gear.
Becky Lynch (WWE star; Irish wrestler; married to Seth Rollins; discusses Ammo Coffee venture, Irish power-ranking of WWE peers, and Four Horsewomen legacy). No other guest appears beyond hosts (Peter Rosenberg, “Stat Guy” Greg, Dip).
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Discussion about the upcoming WrestleMania event and its significance.
“coming to you from New York City for the last time from this studio that I've been doing the show in for the last four months.”
Hosts discuss a friend's billboard and their personal feelings about wrestling fame.
“He went from watching all the old stuff to now as of guys, I think we're about a month in, to he's now watching the new stuff every week.”
In-depth discussion about Becky Lynch's position in wrestling and her career journey.
“He's a true heel, but he's not a wrestler.”
Exploration of modern wrestling heels and their portrayal in the current era.
“They figured out you're a moron and they feed you moron things.”
Hosts compare gas prices in California and New York, discussing economic implications.
“when you're worried that there's international conflict, these are the places that will be attacked.”
Discussion on predictions for WrestleMania and crowd reactions to Randy Orton.
“I feel like Dave Chappelle got a town for what you...”
Discussion on WWE heels and the expected return of Cody Rhodes.
A conversation about the impact of algorithms on shared experiences and perceptions.
“They go see see but I don't find out right like Roman Reigns five years will prove me right.”
Discussion on Bad News Brown's wrestling legacy and Hall of Fame status.
“I went, I went, Ebro, you're on the phone all day.”
Exploration of the confusion around the Hacksaw name in wrestling history and AI's mistakes.
“I would say the ghetto blaster is one of the most damaging looking and feeling moves of all time, especially of that era.”
Discussion on the 80s wrestling scene and potential guest appearances on the show.
“You can't trust AI because they're mixing up Duggan and Butch Reed.”
Discussion on Jelly Roll's role and popularity in wrestling.
“I don't want to go on that journey, is what I'm saying.”
Analysis of Kit Wilson's character and appeal in wrestling.
“Is Jelly Roll as big a star as he is, to the wrestling fan, is he, like, truly a huge star?”
Speculation on Jelly Roll's potential storylines and matches ahead.
“I know you can find the good person you are.”
Discussion on current tag team rivalries and potential matchups.
“I feel like, you know, we were talking about Slick and the Jav So Bro.”
Exploring Roman Reigns' story arc and the Bloodline's dynamics.
“Javon at one point dives out of the ring in the direction of Kofi and Grayson Waller.”
Analyzing Jade Cargill's journey and her upcoming match against Rhea Ripley.
“of life into the segments, and that's why they did it.”
Discussion on Jade's character development and potential as a star.
“Have you ever in your life, just to be honest with us, spent any time with Jade?”
The hosts introduce the next segment and prepare for audience interaction.
“The journalist can take me in question, but if Dip says she's a great guy, she got to be.”
Peter Rosenberg welcomes Becky Lynch and discusses her collaboration and personal life.
“Let's focus on Greg and his wonderful t-shirt.”
Becky Lynch shares her journey and excitement regarding her coffee venture.
“For the last seven years, we've been traveling the world, drinking coffee, falling in love with coffee, falling in love with each other.”
Discussion about the significance of a special coffee machine gifted by a friend.
“The greatest gift anybody has ever given us.”
Becky Lynch ranks various Irish wrestlers and reflects on personal connections.
“What's Claudio spending on a coffee machine like that?”
The hosts discuss how Becky plans to instill her Irish heritage in her child.
“I've realized that's the American dream.”
Discussion about Seamus and the relationships within wrestling.
“And then Kevin Patrick, just a great lad.”
Exploration of the importance of the Four Horsewomen in wrestling history.
“And then there'll be a lawsuit coming your way.”
Becky discusses her role as a veteran and the challenges of being a ceiling for younger talent.
“the depth you know of history that we can touch and scratch and go over and always come back to it and it'll never it'll never lose its luster.”
Becky shares her views on retirement and the future of wrestling talent.
“And that's why I think that's kind of BS, right?”

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0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy, Rose.
0:10The Majestick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The King of Kings. 24-7 Championship. I'm not even a fan. It's firm. Not mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself.
0:27it's cheap heat with peter rosenberg featuring stat guy greg and dip oh you bet your tuchus it is you bet your ace as some would say welcome to cheap heat live pro wrestling nation 24 7 less than uh a month from wrestlemania three weeks away i'm your forever 24 7 champion peter rosenberg coming to you from New York City for the last time from this studio that I've been doing the show in for the last four months. This is it. We have hit the end of the road. I, frankly, am not sure where I'm going to be doing the show from moving forward, but we're going to figure it out. One guy, I do know where he's doing the show from.
1:09It's Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and it's that guy, Greg. Hey, SGG, how are you? That's right. I'm happy to be here on this. hopefully ends up being glorious Friday, but we'll see. Yeah, it was ready this morning. We're going to see how the day turns out. There's a lot of variables, obviously, and always a wild card and a variable in and of himself would be 38 at 35, Dip Ristine. Hey, Dip, how are you? I'm just admiring pictures of the Sam Roberts billboard in Times Square, which I... Where the hell is our billboard? I mean, that's really what I want to know. I mean, these are the questions I'm asking myself this morning on the on the 26th of June or 26th of March.
1:53It was 27th of March. Yeah, you're close. It's it's clearly not a looks thing. You know what I mean? That's oh, this was not this. This was not determined on looks when they decided who was going to get the beautiful billboard. But Sam obviously is a great man. He's been here a very long time. And I don't know that the last time I saw someone, a lot of people get the like, oh, look at my Times Square billboard thing. That's a very big thing. But Sam got the big, I mean, that's the big both sides. I mean, it's like they're going to rename Times Square for Sam. He got a big, beautiful billboard.
2:31A big, beautiful billboard. And we have a big, beautiful show here today at 1.30. the glorious and amazing and soon to be battling for the Intercontinental Championship at Wrestlemania Becky Lynch will be live on Jeep Heat for your ace 1.30 PM Eastern time that's 90 minutes into the program we will be joined by Becky Lynch I'm not exactly sure how it's going to go however I'm very happy SUG I think it was a great choice that you busted out her old footlocker collab shirt to try to win her over i think that was a very smart move by you i have no problems with becky lynch right i never have never have i am one of the people who say that she's the greatest of all time i know she she hasn't noticed but you know bleach report says it sports illustrated says it i say it i mean you say it but you're kissing up at this point we all know you know i say something i say something similar to it i don't know if i say exactly you don't know i'm similarly see that that's that's how that's why i say you're brave for even showing up today when when that if i were you when that got booked i i would be looking at the door to do something else but you know that's i'm gonna let the goat handle you i'm not gonna i'm not gonna well listen we're gonna see how it goes my hope is my hope is we're able to talk about some things because there's a lot going on and she's had an immensely uh interesting career i i had a thought about her as i was watching the the promo that she had with aj this week to to prepare for our conversation isn't it interesting that like my brother you guys know my brother is obsessed with wrestling and if you want a current update nick has moved on he is as of this week reading stan hansen's biography okay that's another level that's not even that's on another plane right there his wrestling consumption come with uh the reading guide it's he will when this is done he will know more than all of us is where this thing is we're going to be going tell us now about what stan hansen did in 1969 um we might need a book club on the patreon with uh he was he was pointing out though that He was like, you know, because he's now over the last, and I'm not surprised this has happened.
5:02He went from watching all the old stuff to now as of guys, I think we're about a month in, to he's now watching the new stuff every week. He's watching Raw and SmackDown every week now. So his thing that he said to me this week was like, he was like, you know, because he's learning about the business while now watching the product for the first time in the modern era. and he's like there aren't really any heels in this thing anymore and i was like yeah no not a lot not a lot of actual heels and it is interesting that you you really hear the thing that statement gets said all the time like there's no such thing as a cool heel you know because once you're essentially a really cool heel you you sort of cease to to be a heel yeah becky is becky the biggest heel in the company right now is there anyone more booed when she comes out not ironically but is really getting booed is there anyone more than Becky and for her to do that it requires like as we've seen it to become her entire lifestyle it consumes everything every basically every way with the exception of their uh Seth and Becky's coffee announcement which we'll get to when we have her on as well i'm sure she'll be happy to talk about that with the exception of that it's he's a heel all the time and it requires that much work to really do it sg is am i forgetting anyone like dom in terms of but sort of ironically you are yeah in terms of active competitors i don't think you are now somebody who you could mention is also like a true heel that gets booed a lot and everything that he does is received as dastardly, especially after Monday, and is also connected to Seth, coincidentally, is Paul Heyman.
6:58He's a true heel, but he's not a wrestler. You know what I mean? When that bell rings, he doesn't get in. And he does get cheers. My name is Paul Heyman does get cheers. The biggest heel in the company is Drew McIntyre. That's the biggest heel in the company. Drew McIntyre. Yeah. he is the one true heel Kelly mentioned Gunther what about Gunther yeah Kelly threw Gunther in the chat what about Gunther Gunther too but I would say Drew his spot right now is more significant today we don't even know what Gunther's spot is at this moment kind of one of the things to talk about these days what the hell's going on Drew McIntyre I would say is the most boo-able person.
7:46I would say Dominic Mysterio was that person and now Drew McIntyre is you know, you can say whatever you want about the Jacob Fatu situation and how that's developing I think a lot of people have different opinions on if that's a meaningful enough situation for both of them, for Mania but and what was going on I mean my question is just sort of what was going on last week? the full episode fight it just got to be i at a certain point you don't need the whole yeah yeah someone's gonna get tired at a certain guys i like it you like i at the end when we went to the end i was like wait they've been fighting for two and a half hours they this is the longest fight in the history of the world they had the longest fight in the history of the world like if you're watching like i because i'm a neanderthal twitter and instagram particularly Twitter, if I get stuck in the algorithm on Twitter, they start feeding me fights because they know I'm a moron.
8:52And when a fight video lasts SGG on Twitter, like two and a half, three minutes, you're like, whoa, this fight is, this is a long fight. I'm watching fights now too. I've been watching fights. I love watching fights. Well, they know you're a moron. They figured out you're a moron and they feed you moron things. When those fight videos last that long though they they usually is like a little break in the action and yes there's usually a break in the action they got broken up each time so i wouldn't say that they were fighting consistently but it was like they got pulled apart and then then they found each other again again and it's on site again and so you know i like that it wasn't safe for either of them i love my my my favorite video is when the racist moron in walmart gets knocked out that's i've been i i've seen a for some reason the algorithm is throwing me that right now.
9:45And, you know, it's it's so crazy. I've never seen anything like that happen in a in a like in person. But I have to I mean, I've seen people get beat up in high school, which which was disturbing for sure. But like, you know, not as a grown adult, have I been in Los Angeles and walked into a Walmart and seen someone get punched in the face? I don't even know what that scene would look like in person. I would imagine it looks a lot like my algorithm. Yeah, I saw that. I think I saw the fight you're talking about. you did the the guy i think i've seen them all though the one this week i saw was a white guy punching a black woman no and then she fought him back and then the another woman jumped in and hit his wife we are let me let me i got an update for everyone how things are going yeah it's not great guys the state of things is it's it's really it's really not i mean if if you looked at my algorithm and what is coming up on my scrolling, you would think it's the apocalypse.
10:43Yeah, truly. History repeating itself at around every corner. You know, it's just beyond belief. Also, we did. I would say one more thing, which would you go? The gas in Beverly Hills right now. I saw an eight in front of the gas. I just want to tell the people eight 14 is full service, full service premium 814 have you seen that yet there's nothing near that here what are you doing 814 honestly but seriously can you explain to me how gas can be so much worse in California than here because there's an extra tax on it in California there's an extra like I believe state tax that exists to make it eight I mean the worst I'm seeing is what four I don't know 350 yeah I saw 390 today I may just get the just to see what it comes to and then cancel the charge.
11:35When I get stuck having to get gas in Manhattan, it's like 4.30. Like what is going on in California? That is crazy, dude. Yeah. I got to tell you, us coastal elites, they should change the phrase to coastal morons. Why is this like a good? No, it's great. You get less space. You pay more money for everything. when you're worried that there's international conflict, these are the places that will be attacked. Like, what are we doing? But hold on, Pete. Hold on. Because if you live in certain other places, and this is not to disrespect the Midwest or our listeners out in Iowa or North Dakota or like your one-stop - Well, don't disrespect Iowa today.
12:21Not today. Well, of course not today. One of all days. Would you want to live in a place where you have to drive like three hours to get to the airport? or something like that or like there's a there's one school one one of everything and then like if you let's say you're in that one high school and you get alienated for some reason you are stuck in the one high school in your town but you're really going far here and i think the people the the quality of life thing though right like you said right but you're gonna get calls today 877 344-4893 we're here from people about all the different topics of the day but i think there is some space between New York, Los Angeles, and three hours to the airport.
13:06You know what I'm saying? There's some middle ground. There is some, but I feel like I don't want to be in a place where I can't go out and get something to eat at 1am or 2am or 3am. How often in Philly are you going out at 2 or 3am? I'm not, but I would like the option. I used to be at 2am. And you think that, real quick, the 2 or 3 a.m. hoagie option is worth being the target if, God forbid, there's a nuclear attack. You think that tradeoff, Apple staff, that is a worthwhile – You got to take the good with the bad. I got to tell you – I'm a city boy, man. I'll take the trade. I'm not. I was in New York when 9-11 happened, and then two days after 9-11, I was living in D.C.
13:54So you've experienced it. I'm fine with it. yeah no I just I'm just here to point out I don't know if we're making great choices I don't know I I currently I'm moving back into a two-bedroom one bath that if I were to take what I pay for my two-bedroom one bath in Manhattan and I were to say you know what enough is enough I'm gonna move to let's let's pick the place wherever it is in the middle of the country I SGG we could do an episode of Cribs with what I could get out there. You can have the town. I feel like Dave Chappelle got a town for what you... Well, yeah, I think Chappelle's done a little better even than I have, but I believe.
14:32But yeah, I hear what you're saying. 877-344-4893. I do think we did some good work here, though, in segment one. It's small, but between Becky Lynch, Drew McIntyre, Gunther, and I'll say this at least for WrestleMania season, Brock Lesnar. those are going to be the booed talent at WrestleMania. And when we come back, I will take my victory lap about how right I am about Randy Orton so far. We are like a week removed. SGG, it was one week removed from him nearly killing Cody Rhodes. And as he sat in the ring and talked about killing Cody Rhodes, what was the crowd chanting? Randy. one week removed the crowd hasn't seen Cody Rhodes yet they're still morons my prediction is a full blown half boo 50 % boo for Cody full blown half boo full blown half boo full blown half and then leading to a 65 boo the following week and then we're at 75 boo the following and then potentially 96 boo is the 65 also going to be full blown Like, are these all full-blown?
15:52Or is it a full-blown? Of course. Hey, don't vet my speech. Okay? 60 % of the time, it works every time. We take a break. Also, before Becky Lynch joins us next hour, I'm told, I don't know if he's going to pop up or not, but I'm told we have another surprise guest who wants to pop on and say hello. Friend of the show who wants to pop on and say hello. We'll see about that. A lot to get into from what happened in the week that was here. as WrestleMania is starting to take shape. Oh, and I just received word, Drew McIntyre and Jacob Fatu are still fighting. They're at Sam's Billboard in Times Square.
16:27They're fighting. We'll be right back. It's Cheap Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. World Wrestling Federation activewear by Weiner. Exciting tops and bottoms for the Warriors and Hulkamaniacs in your family. Youth and adult sizes now available nationwide.
16:50welcome back to cheap heat stay mage and enjoy yourself
17:04ah welcome back guys it is cheap heat live it is pro wrestling nation 24 7 we will open the phone lines 877-344-4893 who are the real heels in WWE that's the conversation we started with because I was marveling at just how great our guest in our two Becky Lynch is at getting booed because tell you something Randy ain't getting booed that that much we established Randy is ha ha greg ha ha ha ha ha ha greg randy orton's a baby face lipo he's gonna say lipo yeah lipo lipo gang we riding this out man cody hasn't shown up yet we'll see how the crowd responds to cody um is cody back tonight he's back tonight oh he's back tonight he's back tonight we've been waiting for him to be like universally booed for for years now so it hasn't happened so you know if it happens fine but i don't think i don't think it's gonna happen these are what are you gonna are you gonna be upset we're talking about are you gonna cry greg no i don't give a shit oh my god i think you do i think you do give a shit about being wrong you know when sg is blatantly wrong he pretty he keeps working it so he's not wrong anyway listen like o gang whatever happens tonight doesn't matter he can let it play out for five years so in the end he can always look like he was right because after five years enough will happen.
18:34They go see see but I don't find out right like Roman Reigns five years will prove me right. Speaking of which did you watch Roman on on Jimmy Fallon last night. I did not get to see Roman on Fallon last night. I saw the clip. It was in the algorithm. This is this is one of these people. These are this is the I'm the I'm one of these people now. I only see things when I'm sitting around doing nothing. No, no. It's more than that. Burning your life away. I mean, too. I mean, I've been bad. I've been like you're a pioneer at it. You're up. You're a pioneer. You're a scrolling, doom scrolling pioneer.
19:15I don't know if that's true. I think I've got it. Where you rub your face tells me it might be true. I I've I've recently I caught the bug from you. Yeah. Now, you when you when you used to think I was doing that on my phone, I was I was texting i was doing everything my full algorithm scrolling it's gotten that's recent last couple years that i get stuck it's post reels that's when it happened it didn't happen pre-reels like yeah you look some and then you move on they figured out how can we now get you completely trapped did anyone see by the way the other day that a there was a what they're saying is a somewhat landmark case where meta and youtube yeah of course both the libel and the thing It's all over?
20:01Where was it all over? CNN. And the algorithm. I haven't heard this case. Yeah. It was an algorithm. Yes, yes, you didn't see it because none of us have a shared reality. Every week, all Ebro does is send us stuff from his algorithm every day. That's all he does. This video, that video, this. Okay, great. I will then bring up something that is so mainstream. I'll be like, well, yeah, there is the story about them, you know, the bachelorette chick getting caught with all that stuff. He'll go, what are we talking about? Right. And today was Paradise. You didn't see the – oh, that was – no, that was today.
20:47He didn't know Paradise. Oh, that's another one. I bring up that Paradise. I went, oh, Paradise is Paradise season. He goes, Paradise is back? I went, I went, Ebro, you're on the phone all day. I don't know what that is either. It's Sterling K. Brown's show on Hulu. I know. Oh, I know that. I thought it was something different. No, no. He didn't know that it's on television again. And I'm like, you haven't seen on your algorithm Sterling K. Brown appearing on every show that exists? Like it hasn't made it to you that Sterling K. Brown has been outside up a storm. But my point is we don't have a shared reality.
21:27He doesn't see any of the things that I see. But Peter, we didn't have a shared reality with Greg before the Internet. True. No, no. Greg is living. Greg lives in a different reality altogether in general. In my in my in my algorithm, Peter and Dipperstein's algorithm, Randy Orton is a baby face. In Greg's algorithm, he is a heel. That's my right. He hears the cheers, but they translate into his brain as booze. He goes, wow. That's right. Speaking of all time great heels, though, I would be remiss if we didn't mention, if I didn't mention Bad News Brown going into the WWE Hall of Fame. Oh, beautiful.
22:05As a legacy inductee. I would say the ghetto blaster is one of the most damaging looking and feeling moves of all time, especially of that era. I remember thinking that when he hits that ghetto blaster on jobbers, he kills them. They're dead. They have brain damage from the ghetto blaster when I was little. I mean, that move was so rough. Isn't the ghetto blaster a clunky enziguri? I mean, you can say that now because you don't fear of getting hit with one. I just You didn't expect it The beauty of Bad News Brown Is that he was an extremely agile wrestler You expected him To be clunky in the ring I wouldn't say he's Schlumpmore But he wasn't He's like thin Mount Schlumpmore Yes, he's on tier 2 Of Schlumpmore But when he jumped up And did that ghetto blaster You were like, whoa that that hurt yeah yeah anyway that's my fun and i immediately asked ted wrestling for sale if he had a bad news brown shirt that i could wear around and he said there's only been one and it was like some it was a bad news allen and it was some old school shirt that like from some crazy bootleg thing years you know before wwf and there was never a bad news brown shirt made which is so annoying so then i started looking at etsy has anyone made one on etsy there's beautiful Bad News Brown shirts on Etsy.
23:42Stunning garments. Beautiful. Just an array of gorgeous Bad News Brown attire. You know what? Speaking of great black wrestlers from the 80s, I was very sad today to remember that Butch Reed is dead and that he died of COVID. Ah, yeah. Butch Reed died from COVID in 2021. He wasn't even old, and he'd been doing all right, and then he died in 2021. What a bummer. I love Butch Reed. I love my brother was watching a random episode of Mid-South from 1985. And we got into a conversation. We got into a conversation about Hacksaw Butch Reed. So back to computers sucking. My brother, he goes, yeah, I'm watching Butch Reed.
24:28And I said, oh, that's Hacksaw Butch Reed to you and me. And he goes, exactly. I didn't know he was ever named Hacksaw Butch Reed. So I asked AI, why is his name Hacksaw Butch Reed? And AI said, oh, no, you're mistaken. You're talking about Jim Duggan. Jim Duggan. And he's like, no, I'm not. I'm talking about Butch Reed. This is AI is imperfect. You can't trust AI because they're mixing up Duggan and Butch Reed. They don't know. So then I'm on Wikipedia. And I would love an old, a real old school wrestling fan to call us and help me with this. Where, what storyline happened in Mid-South that led to the Hacksaw name ending up on both of them?
25:21And I can't figure out the direction of it. I was looking earlier and I think Hacksaw Jim Duggan had it first in Mid-South. And then it became Hacksaw Butch Reed. and then Duggan got the hacksaw back in WWF, but I could not figure it out, and I need someone to take me through these mid-80s. Because, SUG, it had to be. I know they had many things together, so it had to be, I guess, when they tagged maybe, they both became hacksaws, but I got to figure out what happened with the hacksaws. It's not coincidence. No. These are two big stars from itself. In the same promotion, too. Yeah, at the same time.
26:01They didn't post something going on. Shoemaker would know. Shoemaker would know the answer. I would think Shoemaker would know. And then, I mean, he won't ever respond to me, but he would know. And then I also didn't realize, and this may be embarrassing. Remember Shoemaker? What a great guy. I was a big fan. And then, I got to say, I'm a little embarrassed to admit this. I did not recall that Butch Reed came to WWE as a package with Slick. Yeah, I didn't remember that. Speaking of the algorithm I want to bring that up I didn't remember that I just know they were both there I don't remember he came with Butch Reed My algorithm showed me a video of them Basically dancing to the ring And I watch it at least five times Every time this video pops up It's popped up on Twitter Is it their debut?
26:48It might be the debut Jav Soul Bro is ringing it off in the background They're dancing to the ring Slick's hamming it up in the camera It's a great It's a great vibe that combination was perfect we need to get slick alive yeah I was just gonna say that I would love to talk to slick can we start talking to the I'll tell you the idea of having these like 80s 90s people on that would be fun let's throw some in to the mix I want to work on it I'd like to get slick didn't we talk about getting Jake a couple of weeks ago let's get Jake I gotta tell you I don't know if I want you talking to Jake you're who I want I don't you don't trust me with Jake didn't you speak to Jake a couple of weeks he did we saw him in person and there was limited talking I worry about Dip trying to be sticky on Zoom with 80's wrestlers and it's like it's not gonna work dude he's gonna get your ass kicked because they're gonna see you before they see Dip if I find the 80's wrestler that loves the shtick, that's my guy.
28:01I don't want to go on that journey, is what I'm saying. I don't want to go. That's a scary journey. Very scary. It's a scary and long journey. I don't know if I'm willing to go on it. So how do you guys feel about what appears to be the new babyface star of SmackDown being Jelly Roll? Because he was in about five segments last week, and he has a match this week against Kit Wilson. Go ahead. He's got a promo. He's a good promo. Jelly Roll loves wrestling. Oh, yeah. He's loving wrestling. Has for years. I think he loves more. Jelly Rolls or wrestling? That's a great take. I mean, I assume he's eating only a quarter of the Jelly Roll now because of the situation.
28:47So it's definitely wrestling. That's a good point, Mike. Well, here's my question, though. Is Jelly Roll as big a star as he is, to the wrestling fan, is he, like, truly a huge star? Or is he more, oh, that's a celebrity who we see on wrestling. And I now know him because, yeah, I know he's famous, but how I interact with him, because real quick, how do the three of us interact with Jelly Roll? Not at all. Wrestling. Literally wrestling. Wrestling. He is a wrestling guy to us. That is how we know. Well, we call it the Olito. So we are coastal elites. We got those country music listening wrestling fans that are, you know.
29:29Let me tell you, he was also a coastal elite at this point.
29:35That's not the brand. That's not the brand. So every time I've seen Jolly Roll in person, it's on the coast and he's doing something elite. That's a great point. Now, but here's my question as a result of that. Them making him this. Come on, Ray. I know it's in there. I know you can find the good person you are. Come on, buddy. You're a great guy. I feel that could be on the path to Cody Rhodes' booze. I don't know that wrestling fans of this era are going to respond well week after week to someone being such an, oh, shucks, good old, come on, man. We're all just some good guys who like wrestling.
30:19SGG, I don't know. You think he'll make it through mania getting cheered or people going to start cheering for like Kit Wilson to beat up. It's a great point. It's a great point. It's a great, it's a great question. Thank you. I don't want to see him. He's a wrestler. He's a wrestler. He's a wrestler. Very into Kit Wilson, by the way, a character has a real character is consistent with it. People. He's a tweener. People kind of love it, kind of hate it. Just the way Jelly Roll said it the other day on the air, on TV. And he feels larger than life. Kit Wilson. I'm into Kit Wilson. That music, too.
31:02I feel like, you know, we were talking about Slick and the Jav So Bro. The music makes so much of a character. And Kit Wilson has that box checked. Like, he checked it instantly. Let's be honest. The first time people heard that music, everybody was all in. He's the man. He's the man. He's good, too. He's good at what he does. He's like a skilled performer. I totally agree with you. I'm pretty into Kit Wilson. Now, do we know exactly... So this started out Miz, and now it's going Kit Wilson. Do we know exactly where this jelly roll thing is going to go, SGG? No idea. No idea. I mean, like I said, if he doesn't have to get punched in the face...
31:50Yes, tag match or something. It's going to be in a match. It's going to be like, I'm guessing Kit Wilson and Miz versus Jelly Roll and someone else. That's something that feels like happening. Another thing I think that I'm starting to feel happening. Truth. Truth is one of the tag titles. Oh, right. What am I saying? Right, right, right. By the way, that whole thing. Let me tell you something. I love when I don't spot something and then it happens and I go, whoever had that idea, nailed it. Truth and Priest together as a fun baby face, like pretty damn good tag team. That could be a fun six months for Truth.
32:27Together again. And Truth tried to be his voice with the Judgment Day. Priest was looking out for him during those days too. So another thing that it feels like is coming up, there'll be something with the tag champions, I'm sure. There'll be something with the women's tag involving the Bellas, Charlotte, Alexa, and Lash and Nia, right? I don't know if it's a triple threat, but we're going somewhere with the tag titles. Are we getting Javon Evans versus Kofi at Mania? Is that where this is going? Huh? No. I would like to see it, but I feel like... They've been hovering around each other for a while.
33:05I feel like they might be aligned sooner than we think. Agreed.
33:11I like that call. are you suggesting, what are you suggesting? Well, look, think about it, right? I watched that match very closely. I had an eye on this on Monday. Kofi never interferes for Grayson Waller, never helps him, never touches Javon. Javon at one point dives out of the ring in the direction of Kofi and Grayson Waller. Kofi doesn't move, but Javon still does not touch Kofi. So Javon gets the win. Grayson's upset that Kofi didn't interfere. Kofi has like an honorable reason for why he didn't interfere. You know, the win would mean more to you if I, you know, I would rather you have the win than like by disqualification.
34:00And they go their separate ways. I think Javon is going to pull Kofi to the baby face side. Yes. And they might be the next hot tag team. so just i mean that would be so dope i don't i don't know about that i don't know and then feud with like woods and waller possibly well i will say javon and kofi versus woods and waller it's a fun that's a fun little opener mid card kind of match for mania hey can i say something can i tell you somebody who's totally gotten it together as far as their physique talk about getting it together more than you and I have I've lost five pounds there you go all right well then more than I have go ahead okay Grayson Waller the man man he's jacked he's yoked can you imagine being this jack huh like his new gear too I feel like now new gear now we can have conversations about singles titles moving up the card like the look is complete now you think the looks complete you're sensing a completion of the look he looks great he looks a million bucks there's no there's no question scary thought that i just had is cm punk gonna be down with the vision i don't think so he can't just kick in his ass kick three to one no he has to have a surprise heater that is either gonna pop up at wrestlemania or shortly before wrestlemania to even the odds there's no way because let's be real roman can do it alone he doesn't have to and because he doesn't have to he's not the usos are gonna have his back and punk is not gonna walk into that you know that far with his back against the wall let me ask a question and i don't know if sug can answer this because he may be too close to it but maybe he will let's see did weren't we just talking about how like it kind of felt like for roman's legacy the next step the place i thought we would go would be roman on his own are we at all surprised that they decided to go back to sort of the Bloodline story with Punk?
36:12I did not expect it. I really didn't think we'd been back into Bloodline. I thought it was going to be... I think they needed to just inject a little bit of life into the segments, and that's why they did it. I mean, there is life in the segments, but as far as just like bringing it like a tiny bit of a different element to it, I think they needed to have something, and they put them in there. As soon as Punk said the Seeker line, I said that the Usos are getting back into the mix of this. Well, right. That was the impetus for it, but clearly a decision was made at some point of like, hey, let's have this be a bloodline thing.
36:46By the way, I don't have a problem with it. I was interested without it. I'm interested with it. I'm just excited to see these guys have a match. But Punk has to give the odds, right? I would think. It's a good point. I mean, how many weeks in a row? But I did like the way Punk carried the end of this week. the like the laughing the crazy laughing after getting beaten down i thought that was actually pretty fun i was there's been there's enough of a build here even if they start keep doing the same thing every week with them in the ring and yelling and being mean to each other it's it the build is so long at this point that it does feel like something they've they've they forced our hand into it feeling like something and not nothing by the amount of interactions now they're having so anyway I don't know but they're gonna have to come I mean that we still have weeks to go so they're gonna have to come up with something to go a little bit more you know they're gonna have to come up with something outside the ring for them to do what did you think as you what did you make of the Jade and Rhea uh face off on the mic I didn't I didn't besides the fact that I didn't like Jade's huge furry purple thing I didn't I also didn't like Jade Barry in the title that she has you know i mean i don't need this i could see what she was saying that like you know i'm i'm rich or like i'm successful or whatever she was trying to go for without this so i don't need this but this should have been something of like you know but i don't want anybody else to have it or something to like drive it home other than i'm above all of this and i also liked that she has a stable now because you know we talk about roman doing on his own can he can't he will he won't he i was of the mindset that jade could not do it on her own so her having some people around her to sort of like you know boost her a little bit and and hide where she's flawed i think and make her a more appealing bad guy like a really bad bad guy like i think that's part of it it's just interesting that i i guess i thought that if things were going to go really well for jade cargill you would eventually work your way to rhea and jade do you guys remember jade's first day when they first showed her on a ple like i think her first day they showed her at a ple that she was there that was her first day on wwe television was just being like rumble wasn't it Royal Rumble?
39:14No, it was before that. I mean, no, because she debuted at the Rumble. So it was a few months before that. And I think I texted the group, and I was like, yo, I just saw Jade and Rhea next to each other in makeup. And I was marking out like, wow, imagine that. Imagine that moment. The fact that we're here at this point to me, is it possible this is like a sort of sink or swim? Does Jade have it or not? kind of moment oh definitely is we're putting you we're giving you rhea ripley in the biggest spot of them all like can you do this can you be like we know on paper and when we look at you you could be the biggest thing in the world do you have it we're gonna put you in the spot to do it show us what you got yeah it definitely is and you know i don't know how much they talk to each other but Rhea is really the perfect person to put with Jade in this spot where it's like okay it's WrestleMania it's one-on-one a championship is on the line it's put up or shut up because Rhea was in this position basically her entire WWE career right her first WrestleMania match title match against Charlotte she's defending I believe but still title match against Charlotte and then it's just been title matches the whole way and for Rhea it's been baptism by fire so if somebody anybody can get jade ready and really pull the greatness out of her that they obviously see in her it's ria and then if it doesn't happen then like you said it's sink or swim it's on you but ria's the perfect person and at least we got and at least we got the marquee at least we got like that marquee poster moment of jade cargill and ria ripley and if it works out great if it doesn't it doesn't but you know this is i believe a very this is important you you're i know we know dip You're a believer.
41:03I am. I am a believer in Jade. Can I ask you a question? Can I just ask you a question? Have you ever in your life, just to be honest with us, spent any time with Jade? I have. I have a follow-up question. Actually, do you have a follow-up question? Right. I think I know the answer to this question. Did she treat you great And was she a great guy Oh yeah Oh yeah She was a great guy
41:47Because sometimes I am not Calling your journalistic Integrity into question I would never do that with a journalist in your office. It's in question 1 ,000 % in this moment.
42:06The journalist can take me in question, but if Dip says she's a great guy, she got to be. And, you know, we got some great guys on the phone lines, too, so we're going to get to them at the top of the next hour. Yes, it's a great job, SG. We're going to talk to you guys next. 877-344-4893. So we're going to take a break, And when we come back, the greatest to ever do it, I would say. I think you would agree, SGG? We'll join us live on cheap heat. Yes, Becky Lynch next, right here. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Bubble Yum Bubblegum, available in a blasting new three-flavor pack with wild cherry, grape, and regular.
42:47Bubble Yum keeps it popping. Saturday, April 18th, and Sunday, April 19th, at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada. Yes, I know you people listening to Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 are going to be surprised to learn WrestleMania Vegas is happening. And the main event of the weekend, of course, will be the Women's Intercontinental Championship match between the champion AJ Lee and the champion of our hearts and, frankly, the greatest superstar of all time who joins us right now, Becky Lynch. Becky, welcome to Cheap Heat. I can't believe I'm going to say this Thank you Peter For That somewhat accurate Introduction Not enough adjectives for me Could have used two or three more superlatives A couple more And also Fake champion Absolute joke Loser Lee But other than that Solid.
43:57Well done. Thank you. Let's focus on Greg and his wonderful t-shirt. Only the finest garments for today. I appreciate you. Becky, that was your Foot Locker collaboration, if I'm not mistaken. Is that right? It was. It was. Good memory. Yeah. Oh, my God. Several compliments to you. Gosh, that edible arrangement that you sent me really, really must have fueled me in the right way this morning. I'm glad you got that. I did. I did want to send things. I think you and I sometimes we miscommunicate when really we have more in common than we have that separate us. So I'm glad you got that. I did want to congratulate you and your beautiful, handsome husband, Seth Rollins.
44:46hot husband on the big announcement of Ammo Coffee. Before we get into anything else, will you tell us about this new venture for the fans? Oh, thank you. Oh, yes. We're very excited. We're very excited. For the last seven years, we've been traveling the world, drinking coffee, falling in love with coffee, falling in love with each other. And so this is a little passion project. Now we get to bring it to all the people who've supported us along the way. You know, I think it's been something that we've been talking about for years and then that really came into fruition in the last six months, maybe.
45:26And yeah, I'm excited to get it out. People are going to get their first taste at World of Coffee in San Diego. That is the weekend of the 10th of April. Oh, right before WrestleMania. Right before WrestleMania. And then there'll be something. There'll be something around WrestleMania time. There'll be something for fans to try. I'm curious though, right? Because to my knowledge, Ireland, I believe, is the second highest tea consumption in the world. Second only to Turkey. So how did you... Is that true? That is true. Is that true? Doing the work. Wait a minute. How did you invest all in love over coffee and not tea?
46:10Okay. But okay. before we get there per capita or because i kind of think like okay per capita we drink more tea that makes sense that makes sense but you know what i am also a huge tea drinker okay um i'm a huge tea drinker but i think uh i i've always i've probably always preferred coffee you know So like tea is the thing when somebody comes over to your house, you know, and you're like, do you want a cup of tea? And they're like, I know I'm good. And you're like, I go on. Would you have a cup of tea? And they're like, no, I'm fine. You're like, come on, have a cup of tea. Look, I'm going to put the kettle on, have a cup of tea.
46:52They're like, no, really, I'm fine. You're like, I've got biscuits. I've got chocolate. Go great with a cup of tea. And then they have the cup of tea, you know, and then you force them to have the cup of tea. But coffee, coffee is a thing that you go out to do. you it's an experience right when we're traveling the world and we're going to Taipei or we're going to Chile or we're going to Barcelona like you don't always have time to have an experience but you have time to go for coffee and that is the experience and so that's what that's what I love about it and that no matter where you go in the world there's always this language of coffee that it doesn't matter where you're from you always can bond over this love of this this life force that is coffee i i i don't remember if this is for public consumption or not so so feel free to scold me but didn't another wrestler who you guys are friends with give claudio yes i know sorry Was it Claudio who gifted you this amazing coffee machine?
48:03Yes. The greatest gift anybody has ever given us. And what was it again that made it so special? It was a Marzocca. A La Marzocca. Which is top of the range. This was a wedding gift? No, it was a gift after WrestleMania. You know how... Yeah. historically when guys would have Wrestlemania matches they would give each other watches, Rolexes it's kind of a tradition that's fallen off the wayside unless you're Cody Rhodes but instead of gifting a Rolex Claudio gifted him a La Marzocca coffee machine which was the greatest the greatest gift. The gift that keeps on giving. And you guys use this every day?
48:57Every single day. Every single day. Every single day. Gets me out of bed in the morning. I love pulling the shut up. What's Claudio spending on a coffee machine like that? What kind of dollars are we talking about? You can Google it. I don't want to blow up his spot. S-U-G, you can research. Find out how much he's spent. I don't want to blow up his spot. On the show, we'll have a number. It might not be the number, but we'll have a number okay all right now now i don't know at what point this happened um but at some point from being in wwe i i have i've developed a deep love for irish people i i i never knew that we are the best i i really like i sort of agree like kind of the best like it's it's crazy even you know you and I have had our moments, but it's just such a great group of people.
49:55So with that in mind, I'm going to ask you to power rank the Irishmen of recent WWE lore. That's right. Choose your friends and rank them. I'm going to throw some names at you. This will be easy, Becky. Don't worry. We have Sheamus. Right. We have Finn. Yes. We have J.D. McDonough. Yes. we have Lyra Valkyria yes we have Kevin Patrick yes a true legend and then other legends like Fit Finley yes where do you power rank some Irishman for us well the problem is that somebody's going to have to go last and you know because she's a loser loser Lyra she's going last because she thinks she's a better intercontinental champion than me she's not and she was very disloyal to me because I came back I helped her become Lyra Two Belts helped her make history at Wrestlemania last year and the very next night she betrayed me by losing like a loser and so I had to teach her a lesson and then she comes out full of piss and vinegar acting like I'm the bad guy when all along she was the bad guy because she was butting up to basic Bailey who has been a thorn in my side for many, many years.
51:30And just the absolute audacity of her to do that. The audacity. So for that reason, she goes dead last. Dead last. Dead last. Makes sense to me. Yeah, it makes sense to me too. So who would be second to last? Which of the next Irishmen do you like the least? Well, this is now. Oh, this is horrible. Like, Seamus, my brother from another mother. But without Finn, there would be no Becky Lynch. And we all, the world owes Finn for this because he's the person who opened up the wrestling school. He's who trained me. And aren't we so grateful? So he has to be number one? He has to be number one. Probably has to be number one.
52:24Because we're very grateful. We're very grateful. Didn't you get to know JD? For bringing Becky Lynch into the world. Yes, of course. I've known JD since he was 12. I still think he's a little 12-year-old boy. He's the baby of JD? No, I was there on his first class. They had like a kid's class. a kid's professional wrestling class back in Ireland in 2002 what a life you guys live in Ireland it's just TV, wrestling people don't really sue each other that often, it's great that's why you can have little 12 year olds doing wrestling classes it's great lawsuits is our thing that's for sure but you've gotten into it You've now found a passion for lawsuits here and there.
53:17I love them. I've realized that's the American dream. Coming over here and sticking a lawsuit on someone who deserves it. Someone who's done you wrong. Line them up. I'll send them out. I got the best lawyers. I'm going to take it back to Ireland too. It is the American way. USA USA USA How are you going to ensure I'm sorry Greg How are you going to ensure Becky That Rue gets enough time Like To really be Half Irish Because you guys are living here So like how do you kind of ensure That she gets that in her life And like you know That it's really part of who she is I've been doing Miguelga On the Duolingo So that I know a bit of that A cupola feco That's a couple of words And you know St.
54:23Patrick's Day just happened So I was telling her This is your holiday And she was like yeah But this is a boring holiday What? It's a boring holiday I don't get any gifts I just wear green I can't go to the pubs but I was like yeah but when you're 21 it's going to be your holiday you're going to be telling everybody that you're Irish you'll be like every American in Boston saying I'm Irish with your American accent see but that's not what I don't want but that's not her mom is the real deal like that's the thing she can't be like every American in Boston and believe me, tons here in New York too who are like, yeah, I'm Irish.
55:11When? I don't know, seven generations ago. It's her mom. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what to do about that accent though. It's right there. Bang, in your face. In your face. She does say tomato. Really? And that's why she can cream it because she's going to have your accent. She says tomato. That's big. Tomato's a big one. That's something. Tomato's a big one. so we've got that and I love that this conversation has taken me away from the Irish rankings so what else do you want to know about all you did was put Finn at one and you put Lyra at last but between J.D. Sheamus, Fit Finley and Kevin Patrick you did nothing They're all great guys though They're all so great Yeah you know and then A Seamus Man oh Seamus Like what can you say about Seamus I love that guy What a guy man What a lad He put the spotlight on Irish wrestling you know He was the one To do it and apart from Of course Finley who, you know, is responsible for a lot of greatness in the women's division.
56:39You're asking me to rank these. And then Kevin Patrick, just a great lad. Just a great lad. The day he made up with you, he's asking you to do this. Huh? The day he made up with you, he's asking you to do this. No, you're right. It's really... You know what? Speaking of lawsuits, maybe there'll be one coming your way. Because this could ruin friendships. And if I ruin my friendships, obviously there's no love loss between me and Lyra. But if I start ranking Seamus as number six, you know, then I could lose Seamus as a friend. And then that will cause me great emotional distress. And then there'll be a lawsuit coming your way.
57:25And she has the video. She's been distraught. This question has had her I want to retract. Let me ask you a real question, though. I did see an interview on Complex the other day that when asked about her Mount Rushmore of women's wrestlers, Charlotte said that the four horsewomen are kind of like her Mount Rushmore of women's wrestling. How do you feel about that as the answer, and how much do you agree with the idea that... Honestly, I can't disagree. That's a great answer. I won't say many great things, but that's a great answer. That is a great answer. Really did change the game, you know?
58:07We changed the game. Changed the game. I think this is the first year in 10 years when you haven't had one of the four horsewomen in one of the world title matches. But then, you know, you got me in the Intercontinental title match, and that's more important, more interesting, bigger, better represented than the world titles have been. So who do you have to thank for that? Me. One of the four horsewomen on the Mount Rushmore. Greatest of all time. We're a great foursome. Never really aligned altogether, but we did great work. We're still doing great work. We're all doing great work. People love our work.
58:48Do you think that story has been told properly of the four horsewomen are like in your perfect world because I know that when push comes to shove like you are really passionate about this business that's why you're still doing it and and love it so much and are so committed to it is there some more stuff and that needs to be done between the the women who were a part of that together well we're not all here no we're not all here but I think we three of us are yes um and you know the door is always open i think uh for sasha so um i i think that that is is is one of those things that you can always go back to at any time at any point and it'll always be awesome it'll always be fantastic um we'll always have interesting stories with a just the depth you know of history that we can touch and scratch and go over and always come back to it and it'll never it'll never lose its luster.
1:00:06If you were to predict right now at this moment not to put you on the spot again but if you were to predict do you think Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flair will have another Wrestlemania match would you say yes or no? Well we've never had a single Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yeah, have a singles match at WrestleMania. I don't see why not. I would say it's always on the docket. Anytime we come back to fight each other, there's always killings. And there's always interest. And there's always intrigue. People always want to see us beat the bejesus out of each other. And isn't that a fun place to be? Because I love beating the bejesus out of her.
1:00:47When you mentioned Lyra, I want to ask you this, because I feel like lately you've been experiencing something that I think about in my head as the veteran's dilemma, which is you broke these glass ceilings, right? You knocked down barriers. And then now critics are arguing that you have become the ceiling. So how do you navigate that when you work with this younger talent, this idea that you broke down these barriers, but now you're, quote unquote, the thing that's holding these people back? I don't see it that way. I am. I absolutely am. I absolutely hope I'm holding them down. This is what it's like to be held down by the man.
1:01:24Let's see if you can rise against it. If you can rise against it, good on you. Then you deserve to be on the top, but you won't. Because I'm still the greatest of all time. And it's not just me saying it. Other people are saying it. Or it's Illustrated saying it. The Bleacher Report saying it. But I will hold them down. And I will keep them down. Because they don't deserve to be in my spot. But you want me to just roll over. I'm great. I'm amazing. I'm fantastic. I'm not going to roll over. this is a competitive business. I need a child to feed. Monday Night Roo. And that's why I think that's kind of BS, right?
1:02:00What do you want me? But you don't do that with Roman. No, that's what I was going to say. This doesn't happen. No, in fact, Roman comes out. He's never around. He comes out and goes, oh, yay. Not me. I'm around all the time. All the time. All the time. Making the towns. getting in the ring with everybody helping them to sacrifice yourself showing them showing them what it's like to be great so they can see and go oh that's how great i want to be i want to i want to learn how to be able to be as good as she is and i'm in there with them and i'm beating the bejesus out of them because i'm great and they want me to not be great you want me to not be what are you saying i can't i can't help it i'm just great i do have i do have a follow-up question while we're talking about your greatness.
1:02:46I watched Unreal, and there was a line that you said that jumped out at me, and I think you phrased this as, this might be your final run. We saw how John Cena went out the year-long tour. We saw how AJ went out, sort of the Irish goodbye, no pun intended, and fans weren't satisfied with either of them. Have you thought about how you were going to say goodbye when it's finally time to close the chapter on the greatness that is Becky Lynch in the pro wrestling industry? No. Because I think I'll always be involved in some capacity, in some way. And so, yeah, I don't think I need to be worrying about the retirement run.
1:03:31But I will say, there's going to be, this has been, this has been an age. This has been a great, like when I think of the talent that we have right now, you know, the Seth Rollins, the Sammy Zanes, the Seamus, the Finn Balors, the Charlotte, the Baylor, you know, we're all going to be aging out at some point around the same time. And then there's going to be a whole new era, a whole new run of people. But it's probably not that far off. Like we are all closer to the end than we are at the beginning. That's what I want to hear you say. I know. But there's going to be a lot of us. There's going to be a lot of us, you know, eventually.
1:04:24So maybe we should all just shut up and appreciate me while we have me. And with that, the closeout music plays. Becky, you are the greatest. We thank you for your time. And when it's not you one day, maybe it's Monday Night Rue. We look forward to WrestleMania. We look forward to tasting your coffee. Thank you for making time. Thank you. Thank you, Becky. Guys, we appreciate you being with us. We'll be back next Friday, of course, here on Cheap Heat Live. Subscribe wherever you find podcasts. We'll see you next week.
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