Cody Rhodes MUST Turn Heel at WrestleMania

0:03Peter Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy. The major stick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling.

0:20Stay mage and enjoy yourself. It's Jeep Heat with Peter Rosenberg. Featuring Stat Guy Greg and Dip. Can you believe it? Do you believe in miracles, folks? We are all whole today on this Valentine's weekend edition of Cheap Heat. I'm your Forever 24-7 champion, Peter Rosenberg, coming to you from New York City. Dressed appropriately in pink for the holiday and representing the hitman, of course. And now back to being a New York sports guy, I guess. it's yeah because i mean the eagles are done it's time to move back uh the the nicks crushed the sixers this week sgg is back with us hey sgg that's right you know i gotta don the pink and black for for valentine's day um and as excited as i am to be here i'm really excited about the caveat has joined us this week oh my god can you believe it ladies and gentlemen from los angeles Brian the Caveat Dipperstein.

1:26How are you, sir? I love this as a nickname, by the way. I'm now being called the Caveat. I'm fine with this. I like it. But you got to find a way to use it now as a brand, though. Like maybe you pull out lots of caveats. Well, caveat. You know, it's got to be part of the brand. I know. I have to figure out a way to integrate it now that it's fully part of who I am. But by the way, I've had a lot of nicknames. The caveat is never one I expected to have. No, no. And for people who don't know, just go on social media. It must have gotten sent to me and shown to me 112 times that Kofi Kingston posted a text message from Seth Rollins where Seth was inviting him to come to the Super Bowl.

2:14And in the whole thing, he goes, but one caveat, you have to sit with my manager, Dip. so that was just that was not the piece that was the focal point of the social post but for everyone who's associated with dip in any way it was very much the focal point of the social post the point he was trying to make was how cool it was that seth invited him to the super bowl but the caveat became the star of the entire thing and i mean dude it's crazy too the way that the algorithm knows us. Like I was speaking to another mutual friend of ours from WWE and he was like, I must've gotten show like the algorithm showed me that in different ways, 50 different times.

2:58Yeah. I know me too. And like, respectfully, it was like a somewhat like, can I just say wrestling fans are so weird. It's like somewhat interesting that Seth invited Kofi, but like, not really. Like, it's like, it's cute. It's an, a friend invited a friend to the Super Bowl and then that friend's team got trounced in the Super Bowl but it was like you can you believe it I think it's I think the message is fans freak out still to this day when they realize that their favorite wrestlers are friends it makes them very excited yeah that's what it is that's that's the appeal to this to this story right sure of course yeah oh my god Kofi and Seth are friends they're they're the exact same age they've been in the same well no kofi's a few years older they're almost the same age at the same time though in wwe i want to say no kofi's not in wwe but like when kofi's training in fcw i think set this signed with wwe when kofi also gets on you think so no i think they because set think about it set's debut is so much later kofi was around for all those like kofi was like what oh eight 0-9?

4:06I think Kofi's 20. Oh, dude, I think Kofi's hitting 20 this year with the company. He's that long. Kofi is true veteran of the locker room levels. Oh, it says he's been signed to WWE since 2006. So Seth is way after. Yeah, he's hitting his 20 this year. But anyways, the caveat is with us after a couple of weeks gone. We're happy to have you. We're happy to have you, SGG, as well. Everybody is here. there's so many things to I have so many blah blah blah things to discuss plus the blah blah blah of pro wrestling that we have to discuss but Dip I I've had a joke that I've been sitting on for two or three weeks that I have not gotten to tell you.

4:49And you waited for me? No you're the main person the joke is for your edification the most. Okay My brother and I were having a conversation about our one of me and your favorite blah, blah, blah, nothing things. And I realized I need to incorporate this into the show. Everyone out there listening to us now, whether on podcast or if you're listening on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7, you are aware that our country has been inundated with a made-up idea of something huge and exciting that you need to have that is actually nothing. And that thing is called Dubai chocolate. and I we realized dip we I decided I want to add a patreon tier called the Dubai chocolate tier and we charge we charge$15 more for nothing all I know I've never had it they they they okay so I've never had Dubai chocolate all right and I hate trends like that that people subscribe to that are just the most blah, blah, blah thing on the planet.

5:59And so in my new office, in the little convenience store, right at the front of the counter, which of course I shmire around every day, I'm shmire around. Let me tell you something. Okay. You're living. This place has the shmorg of all shmorgs with bars. It has every bar on the face of the earth, thousands of kinds of bars. Okay. So I'm shmire around to see if there's a new kind of bar pretty much every day. Right in front of the register is a Dubai chocolate extravaganza. And every single day, I'm like, should I just try it finally? Should I just try it? Should I just try it? Is it today the day?

6:28I've never tried it once. And I know it's just chocolate with green inside. That's all I know. No, it's a mix of chocolate with green and like little pieces of wood. It's like pieces of wood. Pieces of wood? Shards of wood is what it tastes like. Shards of wood. Have you, speaking of, have you had these David bars yet? Have you had the David bars? I've not had a David bar. No. Oh, in the gold packaging? No, this is the elite bar of the highest level. OK, the red velvet David bar is is sex on the beach. You have got to have the red velvet David bar. I'm seeing these right now. I'm seeing David bars.

7:12And a pack of them, it looks like is thirty five dollars. Yes. I'll pay 20 bucks for one bar. how many bars if david if there were a tariff on on david bars and all of a sudden they went up to twenty dollars a bar i'd find it reasonable i i gotta tell you the bar thing is out of control and yo-yos like dip are oh they keep everyone moving with those bars i said the one for I was at WWE yesterday doing Evolve stuff, and they had a bar. They have 19 kitchens at HQ. And in some of the kitchens, you have to pay for stuff. Some of the kitchens, they have drawers where you can take stuff. It's different stuff everywhere.

8:10And in one of the drawers, they had these bars, and I sent it to Dip because I was like, Dip has to have tried this bar. and let me get his thought. I wanted his immediate review. You were not a fan. No, the packaging on that bar. What was it? What was it called again? It's a beautiful bar. It's called the I have to text. I just thought you had meaningless text so I could get to the combo. It's called the. True bar. Yeah, true bar. Yeah, and it looks they have a beautiful peanut butter and jelly sandwich that's dripping with goo and deliciousness. And then you open the bar and it's just a brown blob.

8:50That's right. By the way, he's a thousand. No, he's a thousand. It's called. That's a lawsuit. That's a lawsuit. It's called the Get. And wait for the name of it, S-U-G. And the package is beautiful. It matches your sweatshirt with a picture of the PB &J on it dripping. And it's called the Get In My Belly PB &J, okay? Beautiful name. Great name. It looks like, but you open the package and you're like, this isn't a beautiful PB &J. It looks like an expired Milky Way, and it's disgusting looking. It's just like a blob. But anyway, I don't like that bar. I'm not done blah, blah, blahing with you.

9:29You were already moved on to thinking about it. You didn't even pop or acknowledge my actual joke, which is what do you think of a Dubai chocolatier where we just charge more money for nothing? I like it. If people want the Dubai chocolatier, you pay it. And guess what? You have to do my chocolatier. It's very special. Maybe one day we'll make a shirt for you. Speaking of blah, blah, blah, guess where I'm having Valentine's Day dinner tonight? First time ever going. Let me guess. Let me guess. The place in the park. No. The green. Tavern on the green. I've been to Tavern on the green. I've been to Tavern on the green.

10:09No. It's actually a fun. I will tell you, Tavern on the green, the food is whatever. the experience is a fun blah blah blah exactly exactly um this is staring you right in the face the new york is there like a new york blah blah blah place i'm not thinking about it dip it's the ultimate it's the number one it's favorite one to discuss not because it's not actually good it is good but because you're so sick of people talking about it and taking pictures of it oh my god how do i not not think about it how do i not know the answer there's one in Las Vegas oh Carbone oh yeah Carbone ultimate bleh bleh bleh

10:53you're going to Carbone that is the ultimate I have we have never been we have never been to Carbone I wanted to come up with something you know that's a little something because we're going to be in DC on an actual Valentine's night, which is tomorrow if you're listening to us live. And we're going to be with my family. So I was like, I got to come up with something to do on Friday. And so I will say huge name. I don't know how to get a table at Carbone. I don't know how that works. I don't know. So I, no idea. I DMed Mario Carbone. I DMed Mario Carbone. He got me a table. We're going to Carbone.

11:31We're going to bone it up. Now, do you know what the thing is to eat there? Yeah. The blah, blah, blah pasta. Yeah, the pasta. And I've had everything. You know, I've been twice. And by the way, you enjoyed you enjoyed the meal, right? You just are. Yeah, it's very good. And they give you great bread. It's a great bread thing. There's a great bread bread scenario at the beginning of the meal. Yeah, this is a fortune. It's a fortune of money. It's a forge. Oh, my God. What? What do you think it was going to be? Chilis? there's a there's a reason why a blah blah blah is a thing i mean let me tell you something right now let me tell you something right now when was the last time that you went to a chilies or applebee's or one of those things not that well the where we we went to shakies together well you bet your ass by the way i was out of it i was a huge fridays guy the sesame me jack chicken strips.

12:34Love them for years. Then I was an Applebee's guy. It was a big camp thing. We went to Applebee's all the time. I would get the riblets and the sampler of all the crap, the plate of crap. I love the plate of crap. Applebee's order is top tier because I would fuck with the riblets also. There you go. Yeah, the riblets are elite. And then, by the way, elite is becoming such a thing. Everyone's saying this. I know, but it's now creeping far into my territory. Okay. People I'm very close to are now saying everything's elite. This is elite. That's elite. Yeah. Frankel, big elite guy. They got elite.

13:13I knew he would be. I knew Frankel's a big elite guy for sure. We love Frankel. All right. So guys, we do have to talk about professional wrestling. We found out this week that Braun Breaker is in a bad way. There's a hernia situation to be discussed. there is controversy right and left about WrestleMania rumors about ticket sales. Where are tickets right now? Is the card changing? Where are we going? So there's a lot of chatter and things to get into, including let's play this audio right now. To set things off here, our very own Dave LaGreca on Busted Open talking about how WrestleMania 42 needs a splash.

13:59Let's hear from our patriarch, Dave LaGreca. I have said over the last four to five WrestleManias, you don't need the returning legend. You know, they have a strong enough roster where you don't have to dip in to like bringing back this returning legend, all of the Undertaker, and bringing him back to get eyes on the product, to get people to buy a ticket. I'm kind of going to go back on what I've said the last five years and say, I feel like this year's WrestleMania, You kind of do need a big name to return. And here's the reason why. I feel like you're coming back to Vegas for WrestleMania. That's the same exact place that you went to.

14:40You know, being that the Royal Rumble was in Saudi, it kind of felt like a little bit out of touch. You didn't really have that build and that feel for the Rumble like you usually do. And I got to say, coming out of the Rumble, a lot of people weren't crazy about the Royal Rumble. and I feel like you didn't build any momentum, build any buzz. As strong as this roster is because of that and because you're returning to the same place that you had WrestleMania last year, I feel like they got to make a splash. They really need to make a splash here on this road to WrestleMania because right now, I don't know.

15:18It feels kind of... This isn't a clip. This is playing a podcast. Oh my God. The funniest thing about that happening, how long that clip was, is that the number one person who would have lost their mind at the length of that clip is Dave LaGreca's brother, Don. He would have walked off the show. He would have said, we are doing our own radio show. We don't need to listen to somebody else's radio show. Oh, my God. I'm working on my Dave LaGreca impression because it's there. It's there. It's at the tip of my tongue. You know what the thing is to get right with him? Dave LaGreca and his brother does not do this, so I don't know where he gets it from I know another person who does this in radio as well Dave LaGreca actually says the instead of the oh yeah a lot of people do that but like that's like a that's a cultural thing that's like a where you're from thing except his brother doesn't do it but he doesn't do it he didn't get the gene

16:18he didn't get the gene he didn't get the gene he didn't get

16:26I just don't know how to do it though. I've tried. I want to try to do his voice too. I can't, but Dave, it's like, I'm going to get this. I'm going to get it down. Do some work. Yeah. Do some work on that. Yeah. The question I want to ask you guys on the other side is whether you agree with Dave's point though, which is that we need some sort of big splash at WrestleMania and to the audience, the same question and what that splash could be. 877-344-4893. We are on the road to WrestleMania. We're just now a couple of weeks away from the Elimination Chamber. So many different things to get into.

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17:30Go on, catch the buzz, feel the sting. Is that good? All right, cool. Welcome back to GPT Live. Peter Rosenberg, Stat, Guy, Greg, and Dip. We're getting ready for Elimination Chamber, which means WrestleMania season is already here. and yeah there does seem to be a general feeling of some concern about where we are in terms of the Wrestlemania calendar and do we have enough there um SGG I'll start with you do you feel like we are in a good spot on the road to Wrestlemania or at this moment do you have some concern that if things kind of shake out the way they're heading it could end up being an underwhelming card.

18:12I have no concern. We do this every year. We had this conversation last year and the year before that around this same time. And we do it every year where the rumble ends. And then a week or two after the rumble, we're like, what's happening with mania? This build is blah, blah, blah. We don't like it. What's going on? We don't understand. And that's because there's eight, maybe 10 more weeks and the chamber and weeks after that where you think they were gonna flesh out the card a little bit we have the big match right we have the splash it's cm punk and roman reigns the definitive two biggest stars that they have on the roster main event for a championship that's the splash dave is exactly right we don't need a returning legend even like the free agents that they have can hold it down.

19:05You have Brock Lesnar. He's a free agent. You have Obafemi. He's a free agent. Those are big enough names that they don't even have to bait a retired star or like a returning legend to come back because those two are going to jump in the action too. And again, after the elimination chamber, we're really going to start to see what this card looks like. And you notice every year, this conversation of the build and how terrible it is and what's going to happen and we're concerned for mania that chatter dies down when we get to march if it was really a concern we'd be concerned in march but we're not we're not there yet we're so far away that's a fair i think that is a fair we are we are still a long ways away uh dip you're at your level of concern you'd be the most likely to be panicked of course uh what's your i mean you cannot complain about roman reigns versus cm punk i mean that's as big of matches you can get.

19:59I think Cody versus CM Punk is maybe a bigger match potentially. Yes, but Roman CM Punk is definitely a big match for sure. You know, I don't know what the other side of the card is going to look like 100%, but as far as the A match, you know CM Punk and Roman Reigns is as big as it gets that's the thing I mean if you're really can you imagine not to interrupt can you imagine a few years ago thinking can you like we said this last week last week what I what I spent a lot of time on was everyone who ever dreamed of CM Punk coming back this mania match is the pinnacle moment of the whole thing 100 % we're getting CM Punk versus Roman Reigns.

20:54This was this is an absolute dream match. You kind of you really just because the name John Cena isn't around doesn't in and of itself make it like a down WrestleMania. And let's also remember guys John Cena has been an afterthought and poorly booked on WrestleMania for literally close to a decade. Yeah, so let's just he if you go back and look at John Cena's wrestling matches on WrestleManias over the last decade, you're going to go, oh, wow, they've basically been doing it without John Cena this whole time. So we're not down anyone. Now, to me, the intrigue is what happens with the Cody match.

21:37Like, do we, Cody has to have the other major men's match, correct? I would think so. I would think so, too. And that cannot be. it just cannot be another Cody Drew McIntyre to me that just that just does not seem right for a mania match they've done it so many times it feels like I think though the fact that they did it so many times also does make it right for a mania match right because Cody got some wins Drew got the last big win Drew's running around with the championship but now they have a rivalry Like, they have a story and a rivalry. And I know we think of, like, what's the biggest match you can have on paper?

22:22Let's save it for Mania. Let's do it there. That'll be the first time they touch. We're getting that with CM Punk and Roman Reigns, the first one-on-one match in over a decade. But then on the other side, it does help to have a long rivalry where you got these two people that have just been at war, and they blow it off at Mania, which could be Cody Drew, depending on how they build that story. I'll say this. I don't mind that. I'll say this. if they were to make Cody Drew something special, say a Dubai chocolate match, now we're having a conversation. No, but you really do. You have to make it an ultimate blow off if you're going to do it this way.

23:04I mean, dude, they had a Wrestlepalooza match. This has been going on and on. If you're going to do it, can you guys give us the true moment like the Cody screaming hell in a cell or something like that. We need, you gotta give this the ultimate zhuzh. Cody's gonna scream whatever it is. And we're gonna get that. Oh no, he's screaming. The man is screaming up a storm. He's the guy in the suit that throws more tantrums than anybody in wrestling. He's gonna do it. He's rivaling Ric Flair with the screaming suited promos. But I want to ask you this. Just to clear up our branding, Pete. The Dubai Chocolate.

23:44Yeah. Isn't Cody drew already the Dubai chocolate? Because they're telling you a special. They, they, they selling it at a premium, but it really is just, you know, what it is. So aren't you arguing that it's already a Dubai chocolate? It doesn't need to go extra mile and be better to be Dubai chocolate. it's a great i see what you're saying i see what you're saying i look i think the best case scenario here is that i mean i'm not sure if this is ever happening but i think it needs to we said this about cena we said this about ron we said this about the rock they'll never turn heel and then the crowd eventually sort of turned them heel like cody in 2026 cody roads needs to be a heel we cannot go another year no with Cody saying the same things in the ring doing the same stuff wrestling the same people and maintain his baby face role we just we just can't do this period it's just it needs to happen something needs to happen with Cody we need a Cody change in some way it's it's it's gone on for years now and it's been great we we love Cody but but it just answered why we're not getting the change, though.

25:03You just, like, we are ready for a fresh coat of paint. You don't want to see that, Greg? No, that's what I'm going to say. We are ready for a fresh coat of paint, right? The three of us. But you acknowledging that it's great and the reactions that he gets from the crowd, there hasn't even been, like, a hint of people wanting to turn on him. And we've been waiting for that. No, no, no, no, no, no. I disagree. There's hints. Oh, no, no, no. Did you watch SmackDown the night before the Rumble? Oh, that's different, though. That was different. I think that Saudi crowd was just trying very hard to be smarky and like, you know, put their stamp on it.

25:35Sure, I agree with you, but they also had heard it other places. There was another SmackDown a couple of weeks before that. I think the Boo Birds, even at WrestlePalooza, the Boo Birds over the last six months have been starting to creep at Cody. The Saudi moment was egregious and hilarious because he said he was going to win the Rumble a third time and you just heard, no. No, no, no. No, I mean, listen, and I got news for you. We also can't for two reasons. Number one, you can't just write off the Saudi crowd anymore because, number one, they've become a pretty astute wrestling fan base. And number two, they're the home of WrestleMania next year.

26:14This is what it is. And, you know, I know everyone still... I think he will be healed by WrestleMania next year. It feels like we have to get there. SGG, I have to ask you, it's controversial. Dim may want to turn off his camera because we know dip and controversy go opposite directions where did you fall we'll keep it brief where did you fall on the Cody Raheem line I'm still not sure I can't believe he did it I feel like he took it out of the group chat was that that was really so I didn't know that I wasn't in the group chat I didn't know that was a thing oh yeah that's a thing that's a thing you as you're familiar with Cody and the civil rights means but it's just of course evolution and an offshoot of that so you have cody luther king but then you also have raheem and so wait like raheem the dream was that the is the is it a play on no it's cody right cody raheem roads i don't know if it's raheem i haven't seen raheem the dream but i know his middle name is raheem i've seen cody in kufi's and and so he changed he made the line a joke to have a double meaning that wasn't what the joke was about originally no no no so the question so if people were offended the offense is that he took it from being a goof and changed the meaning to make it about the stereotype right he went double entendre with it and i believe i have to check the calendar but i believe he did it in february which is not how you necessarily want to start the black history month so you know it it was it was tricky as a tight rope for him to walk and like i said i'm still working through how i personally feel about it how was the where was the internet i would have kept it in the group chat i see a split i've seen people being like oh you know we overreacted this is what we say anyway but again i would have kept it in the group chat which is what the other people are saying who are like he he can't take it there somebody else can take it there but it was very interesting though my way of processing it because i was like dealing with the baby and i just had the tv on and i look up and you know cody has been hitting this bag recently where he he turns it up a notch and And he's getting to the turn it up point of the promo.

28:20And he's like, and you know, they don't call me Raheem for nothing or whatever it was. And I was like, what was that now? Definitely just caught my attention. Yeah, so we on this show, I think we're saying we are taking a stand on this program saying, A, calm down. CM Punk and Roman Reigns is a massive, massive night two main event. and number two we are legitimately over two months out from Wrestlemania so let's see where we go let it play out just let it play out LIPO that's right what if we get Oba and Brock Lesnar is that exciting to anybody so I think we could and that's then your third big men's match is Oba and Brock which to me I'd be so amped for it.

29:16I have to say, I did not, I know it was like the perfect spot to do it, but I didn't love having Kit Wilson as the obligatory Oba beatdown last week. I agree. Only because I'm starting to feel that character is getting over. They shouldn't do that. And if you're going to have the character get over, I know they've always done things like that. I know the character is somewhat silly, but I think Kit Wilson might kind of go as a heel. Like, it could work. I don't know if I would have to do that. It could go either way. It's just so ridiculous. Like, when that guy has momentum like this, which he clearly does, okay?

29:56And I like it a lot. I think there's something there for sure. Give him the push. Like, just because he's silly doesn't mean he needs to lose. Or no, or get crushed by Oba. Like Obafemi, you just had Oba crush the Viking Raiders, which I have no problem with. There are so many people you could have him crush. I had a problem with that. I had a problem with that. Oh, please. The Viking Raiders right now are not in the middle of a push of anything. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. The Viking Raiders can beat up. In real life, the two Viking Raiders could beat up Obafemi together. Obafemi is not beating up the Viking Raiders by himself.

30:31Okay? Okay. I see what you're saying. It's a bit much for the two-on-one beatdown to go Viking Raiders. They could have went regular-sized tag team. I agree, but I'm also not going to get upset because what are they doing with the Viking Raiders? But I just feel like with Kit Wilson, where the thing, I literally was watching the promo, and when he hit the gyration, the Rick Rude gyration, I'm like, oh, man, this could actually become a really fun. And then the next second, I'm like, oh, wait a second. He's just going to get destroyed right now. I don't know. That's not fair. That's why I didn't mind it, though.

31:00I didn't mind either beatdown. Like you said, the Viking Raiders, it's not that they're not doing anything. They aren't. That is true. but also they're presenting Oba as like this monster and let's not forget how Brock Lesnar when he showed up he feuded with both Hardys and beat both their asses all the time and this is after like they did the TLC matches they're already legends by the time Brock Lesnar's bouncing them around but the Hardys are a more acceptable are an easier more reasonable double beat down to accept the Viking Raiders are like the Viking Raiders are you know that's too big man no listen i i'm fine i'm i'm overall fine with it but you just have so many people i'm fine with over beating three people at one time i just don't know if i'd have two of them be kind of giant like that's what i was gonna say so you you're fine with him beating like three slim people but like correct two giants is okay i mean splitting hairs a little bit but i didn't mind it and then at least with kith wilson i think him getting his ass kicked by oba was better for him than like a triumphant victory.

32:03I think they both got ahead with that because he's supposed to be annoying, right? And like you said, with the Rick Rude gyrations when he was doing that, you said the very next second he's getting his ass kicked. It wasn't the next second. It went on for a long time, long enough that people were getting annoyed with it. Not even uncomfortable, but just like, is somebody's music going to hit? And it didn't have to be Oba. It could have been Hornswoggle's music that hit. people were just going to be happy that somebody's music hit and that's a benefit to kit wilson that he's that deep under people it's a good point and also getting crushed by obafemi just helps his case about how toxic the men of wwe are exactly because why why would oba interrupt that he was just saying his piece it was because oba's toxic that's it that's the problem yeah that's a fair point 877-344-4893 are you nervous about wrestlemania are you feeling good i want to ask you guys what you think about the rebirth of Natty.

33:02I do want to get some thoughts on AJ Lee and Becky Lynch. Also, the original El Grande Americano and Javon Evans just doing freakish things in the ring that blow your mind. It's GP Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. It's the new energy drink ahead of the bunch. This is why J Stinger, baby, pounding punch. You get a rush of energy every time you take a pull. All them other drinks, man, they fill with bull. This is the real deal, baby, and the facts are true. You want a boost? Grab a Stinger made by a stack of two. You know how we do. This drink is number one.

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34:02here we go the Squared Circle Cafe you seeing this? a million people have sent it to me Goldstein was the first the Squared Circle Cafe on 271 West 119th Street Chef John and the team over there, they open today. As we speak, right now, it is officially the Squared Circle Cafe's launch party, and it looks awesome. They got DJ Khalil in there spinning tunes. They have wrestling on the screens. These are great guys and gals. I just looked. So this thing's been moving around the last couple of days, and I was like, oh, man, I should talk to these people. I just checked. They've been DMing me for months and I didn't see it.

34:55So I want to pick them up. I am definitely going to come through. Supposedly, not only is it themed amazingly and it's like a real wrestling hub made by true wrestling fans, but also I think Chef John is actually a great chef. So it's not just like they made it a wrestling bar. The food looks insane. Yeah, the food looks awesome. The food does look really good. Yo, let's go next weekend. You know I'm going to be there, as you know. I'm coming, by the way. It's official. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. So this is Square Circle Cafe. This is the weekend of the 20th. Confirm. Yeah, we're going to have to do something, either Saturday or Sunday.

35:37I mean, honestly, we could even do a little New York. Maybe we do a little New York heat and greet meetup, just like hang out with people and have them come check out the restaurant. This is a community. You know what I mean? But we got the big thing on Saturday night. Maybe we go before that. I don't know what time that starts. Oh, no, I do. It's late. It's all hours of the night. Nine or something? It's a nine o 'clock start, our friend. I love that. It's so New York. It's so New York. A nine o 'clock start. What is she, a lunatic? Oh, no, you know what it is? Yeah. I think it's that she got the whole place.

36:08So I think if you rent the whole place, yeah, she's getting it at nine. So they can stay open until some part of it. Anyways, it doesn't matter. We're going to go to Squared Circle Cafe. So excited to check it out. The burgers look slamming. and and honestly it's like such a no-brainer there we have so many fans particularly it's in harlem right yeah and when people and when people host these events let me see how far west it is i am curious when people host these events it's not that far west this says 200 something right you said 271 271 so that is between seven figure out the block yeah because it's like the postal codes right so fifth avenue is down the middle and then you just go out so like the zero to 100 is the first set then the sixth and seventh avenue is 200 so like you just go out so it's like 100 east whatever and 100 west whatever you can figure out where it is but that should be between seventh and eighth it is between saint nick and uh frederick douglas i think you're a little off It's a little.

37:12No, maybe you're about right. Yes. St. Nick is right between Adam Clayton Powell because St. Nick comes up. So Adam Clayton Powell is seventh. All right. Eighth is Frederick Douglass. St. Nick. I don't know what the hell is. That was very New York. We are doing Harlem geography. But the point is this. I was hoping it was a little further west to make it easier for me. It's basically central Harlem. But super exciting because when anyone has wrestling events here in New York, they have them at sports bars in Midtown, which are all fine places, but they're not geared towards wrestling at all. And they're just in the middle of Midtown, and there's nothing about wrestling in the place.

37:50It's just now to actually have a place where it's geared towards wrestling fans. It's Mage. Should we do a little heat and greet on next Saturday? That's what I just said. I know. I'm just saying it again. He wanted the credit. He wanted the credit. Let's see what the people say on the Discord. Maybe people will join on the Cheap Heat Discord and tell us. If people are around, I'd be down to do a little heat and greet. That would be really cool. Welcome aboard, everybody. We're happy to be here. There's a lot of different things. We got the Grand Slam in Australia tomorrow. This week, Dave Meltzer apparently made up that Brody King wasn't allowed to step into the building because of the F ice chance from a couple of weeks ago.

38:33Turns out that was categorically false, completely made up. And Brody King was simply on a flight to Australia to go be a part of Grand Slam where he's in a championship match against MJF on Saturday. I think that's now been confirmed. that being said solid card and a lot of fun Aussies performing you're going to get a great Tony Storm situation Orange Cassidy and Tony Storm versus the Death Riders which will be fun Will or Yuta and Marina Shafir that is Hangman against Andrade pretty mage John Moxley and Takeshita you got the women's tag team match the Babes of Wrath you know I'm a huge fan and you know they're going to go crazy for Harley Cameron Harley and Willow against Megan Bain and Penelope Ford Kyle Fletcher and Mark Briscoe which I'm sure Dip will be excited for and then the singles match for the AEW title Max versus Brody King certainly no part of me thinks Brody King is taking the title off of Max but I'm excited to see the matchup.

39:44SGG made a point last week, though, Dip, and I'm curious for your thoughts on it. I thought it was profound. He thinks AEW needs to take a break from the championship eliminator matches because whenever they do the eliminator match where you face the champion to see if you get a championship match, they always win and then they always lose. 100 % agree. It's a great point. It's a great point. I have no rebuttal. I hate this The cycle in general, the cycle in wrestling needs to be broken with all the tournaments and the qualifying matches. Now all we're seeing is the chamber qualifying. Everything's a qualifying thing.

40:25You have to qualify for this. When did this start, the qualifying? Maybe in the first King of the Ring in 93. Was that the first time? But then it's gotten so out of hand with how many you have to qualify for this. And everyone knows who's winning and who's losing these matches. It's every time. It's the same. I will say I just saw one listed for next week where I was legitimately. Do you tournaments and qualifying? I can't take it. There was a qualifying match for next week where I legitimately couldn't decide who I thought was going to go in. Which one? I'll tell you who. I'll tell you who probably will win.

41:03Well, so far in the chamber, we have Randy and L.A. Knight. Women's chamber so far is Rhea Tiffy. You knew Tiffy was winning that one, by the way. Yeah, that was very clear. Yeah. But they announced another. Is it like Javon Evans, Gunther and someone else? Mage all in one next week. Oba, maybe. Who is it? Can you tell me? Cody find that Kelly. Is it Cody? No. Cody's in one of them. Kelly, if you could show me the other qualifying matches they have come up, you can find them. Please let me know. But there was one that I was actually surprised at. By the way, guys, can you explain to me how they can possibly get the timing right for the finish in that Javon Evans match the other night?

41:56What was the finish? The insane cutter. That cutter was so good. That guy is mage. Yeah, so it's Gunther versus Javon versus Dom. I find that hard to guess who will actually come out of that into the chamber. Gunther. Yeah, I have a guess. Gunther. But is Gunther winning the chamber and then losing the chamber? Okay, got it. I just don't see Gunther winning the chamber. But his feud is going to come out of that chamber. So you're right. You know what? I'm an idiot. You're right. You're right. When you're right, you're right. All right. Then you have Cody versus Jacob Fatu versus Sami Zayn. so Cody again yeah okay you're right tip so far you're right so far you know everyone uh then we have oh here this is harder bliss versus Julia versus Zelina tonight

42:57that was a little harder I would guess Julia it's for me it's between Julia and bliss I don't think this this one snowball chance this one SGG we don't know who's going to win this match. We just know that every one of them is going to lose the chamber. Yeah, it'll be this when bliss wins this one. Although dip is now on board with Julia now that he's into her music. Sometimes that's all it takes. Sometimes that's all it takes. Yeah, yeah, I thought you're not 100 % there. Oh my God, but I'm you know, you're coming around. I mean, yeah, I'm poking around where it is. So where does Jacob fought to end up at WrestleMania, if we end up getting Cody and Drew one-on-one, then where does Jacob Fatu go?

43:44Well, we still don't know who took him out. Drew's denying it. I don't think Jacob's ready for the man at WrestleMania, guys. I love Jacob Fatu. I think he is mage, okay? Give him one more year to cook in a massive way. Give him the push, and then next year at Mania, maybe do it. Maybe pull the trigger on that. I'm not sure he's I mean I don't think there's anyone with a better entrance right now in wrestling I mean I you know I want to play that every morning when I wake up or when I walk into my office I hear you he's definitely not getting main event at Wrestlemania this year he's ready for a big match though I mean he had a big match him and Solo in the cage yeah was that SummerSlam that was SummerSlam yeah yeah yeah but he was on Mania too right he won a championship at Mania I think I want to say he won the United States Championship yeah him and LA Knight at WrestleMania isn't it crazy that these years fly by completely and yet when you look back at the Mania before you can like barely remember even what was happening I know I can't believe it's a year already since the last WrestleMania I can't.

45:04I mean, it's not yet. Well, it's not. We still have a couple of months. But it is. It's flying. The point stands. And I saw Jimmy having the conversation with Jey Uso about the chamber. So it doesn't look like they're ready to stop at least pretending to push Jey as like he's still truly main event Jey Uso. They're still going for that. They cool them off. but there's definitively a cool off here it was Jay of course beat Gunther at Mania not beat it New Day beat the War Raiders Jade beat Naomi Jacob beat LA Knight El Grande Americano defeated Ray Phoenix it's been a year of El Grande Americano yeah it's been a great year it hasn't always been Chad Gable but it has been a year of El Grande Tiffy beat Charlotte Freakin' of course beat Roman and CM Punk.

46:06Io beat Bianca and Rhea in an amazing match. Drew beat Priest. Dom beat Braun Breaker and Finn and Penta in that incredible match for the IC title. Randy beat Joe Hendry, who's now NXT champ, and it feels weird to me. Logan Paul defeated AJ. Right. Lyra and Becky defeated Liv and Raquel. That's a long time ago. And Cena beat Cody. Wow. That was a million billion years ago. So how does it feel? SGG, I know you must be stoked to have Joe Hendry at the top of the heap on NXT. Talk about it. You said his name twice already. So I don't know the rules. Now, does that mean that he is going to be here twice?

46:56or is it like, is it a Beetlejuice situation? We're waiting for a third name. Candyman might get you fired. I really don't know, but you're - How mad are you though? How mad are you that he is your champion? I'm not mad at all, honestly. You're not into it, Greg? No, I don't believe. I don't believe in Joe Henry. You don't remember that he doesn't believe? I know, I remember he doesn't believe. I remember now. I don't believe. But this is majority rules, right? This is wrestling. I can't sit up there and cross my arms. a majority of the people believe, and especially in that room where, you know, it's not a mob per se, but when they love somebody, you kind of just got to go with it.

47:37Yeah. Got to reward those fans. Yeah. Can I change the subject? He's got enough. He doesn't want to talk about Joe Andrew. Because he doesn't believe either. No, I believe. That's not believing. He can't believe. I believe. He doesn't believe either. Change the subject. I'm just thinking of it. The Wyatt Six. Okay. That's where you're. Why is your subject change? Can I change the subject now? You can change the subject, Pete. Anyways, moving along. What is going on? Do something or don't do something. Are these people important or are they not important? They're not. That is the message they're trying to send you.

48:28To me, they are. I know. I'm not saying you're wrong for loving them. How do they have a character like Uncle Howdy and just have him doing nothing? See, this is the opposite of my Joe Hendry position, right? He's NXT champion. Everybody loves it. I'm just going to go with it. The Wyatt Six, people aren't really feeling it. I am feeling it. I'm a real wrestling fan. Dip is refusing to just accept the majority vote. I cannot accept this. I like that you fight this, Dip. I want Javon Evans to join the Wyatt Six.

49:06Okay. I like that. Instantly mage if you do that. I want the man in the hood to be Uncle Howdy. I would do anything. I would do anything for someone to put together. Maybe they could do it with an animation. I would do anything for someone to put together a sketch of Dipperstein. What would it be like Dipperstein's day one if he were hired as a writer at WWE? Like he'd sit down, like sitting down at the table and like Ed Kosky, John Spicata are about to speak. Can I change the subject? Wyatt six title match, WrestleMania triple threat. I have something I want to say. Sorry. Three years ago, three years ago, you know, Rhea, the Judgment Day, you remember that whole thing?

49:52Let's do it again. No, no, and I have another idea. Hold on one second. I'm changing the subject real quick. Hold on, Triple H. What is this, Coffee Creamer? Yeah, PS Hayes. Bring me the international delight. Hold on one second. I'm going to say something. CM Punk, Roman Reigns, Uncle Howdy, Triple Threat, book it, done. Good night. They love Uncle Howdy. They love Uncle Howdy. Trust me. They love Uncle Howdy. Now we have a late event. he's elite he's Uncle Howdy is elite dude I like Uncle Howdy too it's so crazy that there's so much like people do not take this guy seriously Uncle Howdy should be in the title picture I mean this but why do you always say the title picture he's so not a title picture kind of guy and it's so hypocritical of Dip because when I bring up how made somebody is and I talk about the titles he doesn't care about the title He's anti that, but I'm at the top of the card, whatever.

50:52The solution to make Uncle Howdy Mage is to throw him in the title scene. He could have an Undertaker vibe where he doesn't need to be in the title scene and is still Mage, but I think the title stuff is tricky because spooky champions do not work. I want everyone to be spooky. Dip wants the entire ride. Dip would show up and he'd be like, I have an idea, guys. Everyone settle down for a second, okay? Bruce, Bruce, hold on one second. Here's my thought. We've been calling the shows Raw and SmackDown for so long. I believe it should be Monday Night Macabre and Friday Night Spooky. Okay, we have Macabre, we have Spooky.

51:30We have two shows, and everyone fits into either Macabre or Spooky, and we work around that. Night one, they jump Javon Evans into the Wyatt Six. Yep, I love it. And we're on the path. We merge the Judgment Day with the Wyatt Six. The Judgment Six? The Wyatt Day? The Wyatt Day. I love that. I like the Judgment Six. The Judgment Six, the Wyatt Day. Because if you say the Wyatt Day, it makes you think New Day more than, you know what I'm saying? 877-344-4893. The one thing I wanted to mention before we get up out of here about Cody Rhodes. We were talking all about Cody earlier and how it's time to turn him, et cetera, et cetera.

52:12April 2nd will make four years of this Cody Rhodes run. That is absolutely insane. Like, he has been around again as long as Hogan's 87 to 91 run. Like, when you think about the other people whose runs were so much, Do you realize how much less like Savage's time on top or Ultimate Warrior's time on top or so many other 80 stars times on top were compared to what Cody has done? It's been four years already. Yeah. This is this is this is the Cody run has now been as long basically as the big bloodline run. Right. I don't know if I would say that Cody was on top the whole biggest Austin run as big as rocker.

53:06He has been hot the whole time. Yeah, yeah. Right, right. That's a fair point. It's as big as Austin's run. Time-wise. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 97, 98, 99, 2000. I hate being older. It doesn't want, I guess. Five years. I hate being older is this. The last four years means like nothing. And yet when you look back in time, four years as a teenager or a kid, it's like this epic time that you smile back on forever. whereas once you get to like your mid-20s, multi-year periods just become blended into nothingness. Oh, yeah. Karen, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2017, these years mean nothing to me. They're just all dates in which maybe things happened in those years, but yeah, that just took me aback.

53:55And then, I mean, I watched a couple of things from 10 years ago recently, and I got to tell you, it looks exactly and feels exactly the same as it does now in wrestling. It did? It feels the same. 15, 16 16 for sure 15, like 16 20, you put on 2016, you're like this feels like it does now Not in a bad way It just does The turnover when we were younger was so crazy King Kong Bundy's there and then he's not there for a long time Tito Santana disappears people just disappear but you got Seth Rollins Randy Orton, Roman Kofi Miz and you could go down the line of people who were around 10 years ago and mage not just like recently debuted but they were mage 10 years ago and they're still around and still mage and people jumped from WWF to WCW like so often back then back and forth that like as soon as someone's contract ended they went to WCW as soon as someone's contract ended they went to WWF and then they went back and forth like I'm watching St.

55:02Valentine's Day Massacre in the background right now and I'm and it just happened to become on my thing on Netflix and you got big boss man in the black skinny big boss like skinny outfit big boss man in the black you know attire and think about a couple years before this he was big Bubba Rogers in WCW yeah and a couple years before that he was you know schlump boss man big schlup man that's right and he's wrestling midian who you know a couple years before this was you know uh a hog farmer now speaking of all these repug people you were missed last week when we sat down with my brother and watched the royal rumble the 95 rumble is that what it was 94 94 We watched the 94 Rumble match in its entirety, and I truly think nothing would make you happier than hanging out with my brother while he asked questions in complete earnest about what's happened in wrestling over the last 30 years.

56:11You will truly, it could become one of the joys of your life. I'm ready to go. We'll do it this weekend. Yeah, I would like to try to find, I'm actually going to be down there with him. Maybe we can still find time to do it together. It was a fairly repug Rumble. Where is he at right now? Where is he at? Well, I haven't. That's where he was as of last Sunday. All I know is this is the text I got from my brother two days ago. So you tell me how telling this is about where he's moving. He's moving through it. He's texting me yesterday. I've decided it was a bad idea to let Johnny Polo bring a putter to the ring.

56:52That's pretty good text. see I know so that's where he is I didn't even remember Johnny Polo until I watched the Raven documentary I was gone that's crazy I was already I was kissing girls I was living life okay I was outside you were outside when Johnny Polo debuted yeah dude it's like 94 I was having I was pumping SCNO's bro I don't know cream and onion yeah dude Yes, sir. What else do I do? All right, we got to get through these people real quick. Let's go to Tim in Arkansas. Tim, what's up? Hey, as far as your Pringles, you're probably on the International Most Wanted now. It's possible. It's very possible.

57:40Is there a reward? Because I know where DiPolago is. No, he's saying Rosenberg stole Pringles from the Saudis and is now on the watch list. It's possible. But no, all seriousness, I think we're going to see Seth Rollins here before long. I hope so, man. What do you mean by before long? I think the Elimination Chamber will show up. So I've been trying to do the math, Tim. Like, to me, this is what makes, and again, thank you for the call. Again, back to Brian Alvarez being an idiot and coming after me because I was actually worked when I was supposed to be worked. Because of what Seth has done with injury stuff, I think it makes it completely confusing about could he be back at the chamber or could he not be back by Mania?

58:29I think it's completely in question. But that would certainly, I will tell you this, Seth coming back before Mania would be the exact injection that they need to make everything feel just fine for Mania season. Let's go to Harold in Nebraska. What's up, Harold? Yeah. Hey guys. How you doing? Good buddy. Hey. Hey, uh, two things, uh, real quick. Uh, the cost of going to these events is getting crazy. I used to spend for second row seats at raw. I used to spend like 120,$140. Now it's like six in like less than two years. I mean, that's ridiculous. I know these guys are making, you know, like rock gets 20 or 40.

59:18million a movie or whatever. But, you know, the average person can't afford that. The other thing that I had. And by the way, and Harold, and real quick, and you're getting a better price in Nebraska. I got news for you, because it's worse than$640 on the East Coast. And what's your other point, Harold? Okay. Okay. The other point is, is this with this new one that's on AMC. TNA. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Why in the world would they bring back that girl that got in all the trouble for doing what she was doing at WWE and getting fired? To me, it's just a rerun of the old WWE stuff. Harold, thank you for the call, buddy.

1:00:02We're down to 30 seconds. SG, who's he talking about? No idea. So many people fit that description. But Harold is outraged. But Harold, listen, we appreciate you. And I'll say this. The beauty of having multiple companies is, regardless of who you're talking about, sometimes people make mistakes. And it's nice that there are other companies where people get a chance now to maybe reprove themselves. Guys, we love you. If you don't listen to the podcast, go find Cheap Heat on podcast. Follow us on Instagram, all right? Look up Cheap Heat Pod on Instagram. Have a great weekend. Stay mage and enjoy yourselves.

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