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1:12Oh, man. You bet your ace. It is cheap heat with your forever 24-7 champion, Peter Rosenberg. we have 38 30 at 35 dipperstein joining the program in a bit and of course from philadelphia pennsylvania he's off from work today we're blessed to have the physically large stack guy hey sgg one of those things is true i'm definitely off from work today we're gonna we're not gonna jump the gun on blessed to have me until we wrap and then we can revisit that but i'll take it I'll take it for an intro for the people. You say what you say based on facts. And in fact, that should also be the case with me saying Dip will be here.

1:54I assume Dip will be here. But this is a very busy man with a lot of things going on. So hopefully we'll have Dip with us shortly. SGG, you were missed last week. I did get to listen, though. And it was a fun show. I feel like I'm the one that missed out the most. I know the people will say they missed out on me, but I think I missed out the most. No, well, did you or do you think that the people missed out? Because Dipperstein, you know, listen, Dip is great for you wait for him and he has his hot take and he jumps in and he slaps you in the face with that Dipperstein charm and that hot tiggity take that you didn't know you needed.

2:38But when it's just you and Dip and you say, hey man I'm so uh big deal tonight we have Cody Rhodes in a championship match against Drew McIntyre and he goes I don't really want to talk about it that's when you go I miss SGG who I think might have a little more to say about the championship match between Cody and Drew but maybe listen maybe Dip says what he's saying without saying it you know what I mean um listen Listen, we talked about this a little bit last week. If you think about it, it's crazy because Cody won the title back in a way where we all kind of predicted it. If you remember, we were on the show that day saying, it kind of feels like Cody's going to get the title back tonight.

3:23And he regained it. Or sorry, he lost it that way. I apologize. The night that he lost it to Drew, we kind of said, kind of feels like this is the time Cody's going to lose the title. And then when he got it back, it was like, well, he's 100 % winning the title. And I just want to say, you know, I don't think for whatever reason we got there, SGG, I don't know that as the number one good guy in the company, I don't know that it does, or number two, whatever you want to argue with, right? Him, Punk, I don't consider Roman quite a good guy yet. He's Roman. He's in his own sort of space. as he told us 10 years ago he's not a good guy he's not a bad guy he's the guy he's you can rank your top heel and you can rank your top face and then as long as you know that they're under roman that the hierarchy is not you're giving o'shea jackson right now calm down calm down it's giving see now you got to watch out because speaking facts um so so you know i just with with Cody being where he is in the whole sphere of WWE, the WWE sphere, I don't know actually if it does him any favors that the last two title changes he's involved in have been somewhere between pretty predictable and extremely predictable.

4:49That is to me low-key, and I'm just speaking as a fan. I never booked the territory. as a fan to me you're setting someone up to store to have people kind of fall out of love sgg when they have these multiple big moments that are just completely you can see them from a million miles away what do you what do you think of that assessment i disagree i disagree i think please is just half the battle right that's half the story because it's the details it's how they get there. It's what they do. And Drew, for as short as his title run was, his win was predictable. The title loss was predictable. But the things that happened in between that got us there, I would say completely unpredictable.

5:36The twists and turns that got us there, only unpredictable. So yeah, you can look on paper and say the story beats and say, okay. And then Cody loses in January or whatever it is. And then Cody gets it back in March. and if you're just telling that story, that's like the difference between having the ingredients and knowing the recipe. Yeah, you see the black pepper, you see the salt or whatever, you see the butter, but if you don't know what you got to do with it and how you got to incorporate it and how you take us there, you're not going to have a delicious meal. And that's what they did. Yes, we had the ingredients.

6:13We know, we look at it. What are you going to do with this though? and they put the recipe together they had the right spice blend they sprinkled some randy in there and now we have a highly anticipated wrestlemania match that people have wanted for a title between cody rhodes and randy or in at wrestlemania since forever and now we're getting there and i think they put it together quite well i don't care that it was predictable they put it together but you're you're you're you're lawyering up very nicely as you do i mean it's your off day but that doesn't mean you're not working you know i mean you're in here cooking but it's still even if you're saying there are other ingredients and ways to get around it it's still a little bit of a hindrance to to making people feel the feels i think like as dope as the moment was in the post show when aldis and mcintyre got into it and we found out hold on everything we thought we knew we now don't know it was an amazing moment but i feel like SUG the result still was by Sunday everyone was saying well Cody has the title on Friday and that's not and you still you now have to overcome that to get the feelings that's all I'm saying versus when you get a moment that just hits you out of the blue and we can think of them like for example I'm throwing out a random one but like the Dolph Ziggler cash in the day after WrestleMania that's something that if it were telegraphed who knows if it was worth a damn didn't last all that long right um it was there weren't a ton of great stories around it but the surprise of it made it one of the great title wins of the era so I just feel like when you remove the surprise completely you're adding another hurdle for the talent to have to get over in my opinion And see, that's why I feel like using the money in the bank example was not a good example.

8:06You shouldn't have gone that far back because even with Dolph and Seth, and think of any great cash-in, right? They were all telegraphed. And it's always, especially with the cash-ins now, it's always a matter of time between, okay, the champion is down and everybody's looking at the aisle to see if the person carrying the briefcase is going to pop up. and that was the case with Dolph as much as we appreciated it, right? It was predictable. It still gave us that oomph, that surprise, that pop, everything that you want that goes into the video package, but we still appreciate it. Now, if you had said Randy Orton hitting Cody with an RKO after they literally just teamed up to take out Drew to then take the win, that's some surprise factor, I would say, because when people were looking at that chamber, they thought, yes, that was the moment that Cody was going to win and he was going to go on to get his title back from Drew at WrestleMania.

8:56The surprise factor came in with Randy Orton hitting that RKO when he did to go on to WrestleMania in the way that he did. So where we sit right now, are you full-on excited about Cody Raheem Rhodes versus Randall Bartholomew Orton? I think I think I have to reserve that until after tonight because tonight tonight they really kick it off right they have the contract signing I believe on Smackdown so they're gonna go face to face we're gonna get a promo they're both gonna be able to talk their ish hopefully bring in some of that history that people have been talking about with Legacy and and Randy and leading that faction that Cody Rhodes was in a lot of people moving the uh a lot of people moving the videos around of randy just disrespecting cody and dusty back in the day like those are those are starting to heat up the internet yeah let's see how they incorporate it because yeah like i was saying earlier randy and cody is the right ingredients but now i gotta see how they chef up this spice blend before i get excited about the meal that's getting served up at uh at wrestlemania so let's see what they do tonight Right.

10:11It remains to be seen. Either way, we know where we're going on the other side of things, and that is CM Punk and Roman Reigns. CM Punk had a moment in the ring on Monday night. And, SGG, before we get to Monday, I want to give you a moment to talk about it. You heard the show. Were you, like, miffed at all that so many supposed wrestling insiders were debating if punk went too far about sika as if that was like an off the cuff i'm just gonna throw this out here and hope it works yeah if if they were saying like you know i don't see what that did for the story i get it i still am not all the way there with them because you remember you might remember what i texted you that night right after he said it like oh this is what's gonna happen and then it started to happen but the idea that punk just decided to throw that in there as a shoot and like it didn't get run past roman let's just think about this for a second roman cut two promos where he says they considered me before they even brought you back so there's not a word that's going to come out of cm punk's mouth that's not considered especially something like that there's no way that that isn't something that was considered let's run it past roman let's see what we do and it's possible it was roman's idea by the way oh completely um i i just was blown away like we have a full-time channel 24 7 dedicated to talking about the business and you know not everybody here is an insider um some people are you know workers who really really know and some of us are yo-yo fan boys like us who just get to talk about it.

12:01And some of us sort of walk a line in the middle. But I was shocked at how many people I saw all over the place debating. SUG, we've officially, I just want to say, the date is March 13th, 2026. I know that maybe it's not over yet, but to me, it feels like.

12:24we have officially crossed the line of like the shark has been jumped in terms of how much quote wrestling media there is like it has now reached a I mean dude Complex launched their new show TMZ launched their new show Sports Illustrated has a thing we could go on and on every single place that has an opportunity to put people in front of a microphone has a show about wrestling at this point yeah and listen i'm not trying to be there's no way around this because i'm trying to say i'm not trying to be old get off my lawn guy though that's exactly what this is is me being old get off my lawn guy but they are literally on your lawn no no they are you built this space right It was a place that people walked by, they pointed, and they laughed.

13:23They said, look at Rosenberg. Look at him. Loser. Look at Rosenberg. Because I wasn't even including the people in the mainstream space who may not have a show dedicated to it but still want to gobble up all the guests and have them all come on the show and give them the views. I wasn't even getting there. I just meant specifically doing wrestling stuff. but you know the fact of the matter is it's we are hitting a point now where it is just so much and so every time the reason i'm bringing this up is every time there's a a thing that happens in the ring like cm punk mentioning a sika now my timeline has to be filled with think pieces about things that you are you trying to be smart fans or not like that's the one thing that confuses me and I made the joke earlier about O'Shea Jackson who I love O'Shea is my guy but sometimes I can't tell online I'm like are you trying to be smart fan podcaster or are you trying to be like screaming Mark in the in the fifth row what or in O'Shea's case the front row what what role you know what I'm saying like what are we doing here because sometimes the way people are describing stuff is I'm like, wait, you're really taking this all at face value.

14:46You're talking about it like it's and again, I'm not I'm also not for people playing Mr. Inside Baseball. But as you know, I'm saying it's just sort of a weird balance. Like I'm watching people have back and forth conversations about the characters completely taking it straight away. And then at the same time, something gets said by CM Punk and they're legitimately debating whether this was just some random-ish. Guys, we all know the pipe bomb, at least as far as we could tell, was a shoot. That's what we at least believe. Although, again, remember, CM Punk was handed that microphone. That microphone cut off when the promo was over.

15:30After Vince was talked about. After Stephanie and Triple H were talked about. After everybody got talked about.

15:39the mic was off so even that was a quote as we all know the phrase became very popular then worked shoot we know that so you think now all of a sudden in the lead up to wrestlemania one of the biggest stars in the company who just came back a couple of years ago and and certainly had to you know shake his hands and kiss his babies in order to come back You think he might have just went rogue making a joke about the somewhat recent death of the father of the guy who's been the guy in the company the whole time? You really think that was a conversation that didn't happen? Yeah. Come on. Don't make me ruin this for y 'all.

16:17Don't make me ruin it. I shouldn't even have to have this convo. We shouldn't have. You should just be able to say, oh, man, that was cold-blooded. That's all you got to say. It was cold-blooded. And then have fun with it. So what do you think? You think the promo on Monday when the Usos came out and demanded an apology, still all part of Punk just going off the cuff, huh? Like, what are we talking about, guys? Now, what I want to talk about on the other side, though, is the Usos and Punk from Monday because I thought that was tremendous. That was, to me, a fantastic place to be. We have a lot of stuff to get to on the show today that I'm very excited to talk about.

16:55Plus, of course, taking your calls at 877-344-4893. If you didn't hear the news, Monday morning, the Busted Open boys have Stone Cold Steve Austin on the show to celebrate 316 day. All right? Oh, yeah. Bubba Ray and Dave are going to sit down with 316. So that's going to be amazing. Austin, 316 on 316. You cannot beat that. But we got to talk about the Punk Uso stuff. do we finally have a real judgment day breakup and we also got to discuss the comeback of Dan Housen because we ain't never seen something like this before no in a two week period I owe him an apology a lot of people do so all of that coming up plus your phone calls at 877-344-4893 it's GP live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 happy weekend y 'all promotional consideration paid for by the following New World Wrestling Federation Superstars Cookies from Solano.

17:57Great tasting cookies in 10 fun-to-eat WWF wrestling shapes. Hi. Welcome back, everyone. Welcome to Cheap Heat Live. Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7, as you just heard. I'm your forever 24-7 champ, Peter Rosenberg. That guy over there is Stat Guy Greg. By the way, I can't believe you were one of the Seths on Raw. Oh, yeah, man. And look, I finally had my Raw debut. I didn't get to show my face because the whole point was, you know, we got to get Seth out of there. But I was pleased, though, that everybody immediately knew that, like, hey, this one is definitely not Seth. This one's a little too physically large for the last time we saw Seth.

18:45And, yeah, you know, I don't recall signing an NDA on this, so I'm pleased to announce that, yeah, that was me. I made my Raw debut. I got in. I got out. I was in catering. I went to the ring. I went right back to catering. I was looking on your page to see if you posted. You didn't repost the picture and say it was you? No, I didn't. Because I wanted to give people the option to see. I'm sure some of you may have seen it, but there was a picture moving around of one of the masked men that a lot of people were having fun at because he looked a tad larger. than Seth Rollins. It was more than a tad.

19:25So SGG, yeah, more than a tad perhaps. So SGG sent it to us and said, hey guys, you know, cat's out of the bag. I was on Raw. So we were having some fun with that. Also, in looking back here at my, your Twitter, I saw you reposted what I posted, which was Nikki Blackheart and Rain Leverkusen being signed to WWE. so I put up a post that said, got to keep watching Evolve on Tubi. Yeah, man. And I got a bunch of people followed up, and they were like, Nikki Blackheart is going to evolve? I was like, I don't know, but I would imagine. No, they're putting her on Raw. Like, sometimes... I hate how people do this.

20:08I hate how people do this. Bro, bro, Nikki Blackheart is a... For people who don't know, because you're not on the internet all day, every day, seeing every person who trends in wrestling Twitter, her um Nikki Blackheart I didn't know who Rain Leverkusen was till I saw that she was signed I'd never seen her but she looks dope um but Nikki Blackheart you know because of her look uh and and and in ring um persona just like her whole vibe people she had a day where she got very big people like wow look at this uh woman she could be big time and that was a few months ago now she signed a deal with WWE and NIL deal or whatever I don't know the details of her contract but yeah I put up that oh I keep your eye on Evolve because my guess is based on what I'd seen her of of her SGG she seemed to be pretty early in the process from what I could get you'd be accurate she is not she is not an indie veteran okay she just looks like a million bucks and is new and trendy.

21:13I don't want to take anything from her work because I don't know how long she's been working. Maybe it's years and years, but I don't think so. I think she's relatively new to this. So, yeah, some of the comments are like, they better not put her on Evolve. Guys, you're about to see some people on TV. Actually, I think some leaked to the dirts and they're already out there. There are some new people coming to Evolve that have been around, like GCW veterans, like wrestlers who have been around who are learning TV on Evolve. That is what it's for. Can I say this also? Because this goes back to the smart marks thing, right?

21:49I always said there's no such thing as a smart mark because if you actually listen to these people, they sound stupid. That's to me, that's a little bit harsh, but that's how I feel sometimes. And this is one of those times because they talk about wrestling as a business. Sometimes when they want to really feel like they're on their hard horse, they refer to it as the business. this business. So these people, these wrestlers are showing up to a new place that, where they operate in this business in a way that nobody does. It's a machine, they call it. And these people are showing up to their new workplace and you want to drop them in at the highest level, highest pressure situation, main roster, raw, main eventing, PLEs.

22:33and you think that's not going to put them on the fast lane to like burn out, stress, all these things because you like the way they do a 450 splash or you like the way they do a destroyer or you like their indie work, they need to get acclimated to this workplace. And for some people, that means going to evolve, going to the performance center, going through NXT, dealing with some coaches, learning how to operate with producers telling you, hey, do this, timed matches. Sometimes it's a lot of time. Sometimes it's two minutes. They got to get used to all of this before you put that stress on them of now you're on Raw.

23:12Now you're on SmackDown. And it's crazy how every time somebody gets signed, the smart marks can't seem to figure out that, hey, some people need to ease into their new workplace. How hard is that to figure out? yeah i i don't get it either um and also like you should kind of like have some respect for the craft like don't you love this don't you love this craft enough to know that it takes time to get good at it and be ready to do it on the biggest level yeah even like roman right roman but people people will say that for roman it didn't click until like five years ago when the bloodline started that's how long it takes some people and his career didn't start five years ago you know what i mean he wasn't even in that main event position for the first time five years ago but people will say hey he finally got it five years ago and granted some people are going to get it faster than that but like you said it takes time to really develop the craft and be ready to do it at the highest level the way fans think people are ready to do it I just got stopped in my tracks because I saw a post that this is mean see I don't even know if the man said the words this is the problem with Twitter Twitter just throws a picture up of Lil Bow Wow and it says Bow Wow says he still looks young at 38 because he's never eaten red meat or pork and in the picture one thing is clear he doesn't look young at 38 I think he does but I don't see when people do that they do that on purpose because they pick they pick the picture that does not prove your point but i will say sug can i just say this is like i like bow wow always always had a pleasant rapport with bow wow good guy when he was at raw he was at raw the pla a few weeks ago you remember that i think he was at the raw that was in atlanta raw in atlanta yeah he was at raw he was at raw in atlanta and i the first thing i thought when i saw him was bow wow looks old like he looked the oldest he'd ever looked right he does look the oldest he'd ever looked but doesn't he still look young because he doesn't like we've we've seen him since he was three years old right so like when we think about battle we think about like i'm under 21 with a black card that's the face we have so yes he looks older than that but does he look like he's approaching 40 or like he just crossed over 30 i feel like he looks that's a good that's a good question it depends on the photo.

25:47I'm looking right now. I'm looking right now on his IG and I see pictures of him where he still looks great. I'd say he still looks... Listen, he still looks 30s. I'm going to say, you know what? Why am I beating around the bush? Bow Wow looks fine, but why am I beating around the bush? I'm just saying this, SGG, and I'm going to say it with my chest. I look like a significantly younger 46 than he looks 38. I'll take that right now. I'll take that right now. And guess what? I don't have the melanin to help me out. I'm fighting... I'm quite white. You moisturize. I'm moisturized. You've been around the community enough to know that you need that Aveeno.

26:23You need some brain. It doesn't have to be Aveeno. It could be anything, but I'm going Aveeno. You got to moisturize. You got to moisturize. You got to get in the crevices. I'm keeping my hands down because I washed my hands and I didn't moisturize right after. So when we hit that break, I'm going to definitely hit up my Aveeno. Well, you know, I think that's the underrated advantage that melanated people have over the whites. See, listen, feel me on this. Because the ashiness is visible, it requires the work you have to do it. Yeah. Early on, white people can get away with ashiness because you may not see it at all.

27:03And then you look up and all of a sudden you're like, why does this person look 60 at 40? Well, guess what? They weren't moisturized. and moisturizing yeah i'm glad it's truly an epidemic and i'm dry right now i gotta moisturize right now yeah we're getting a break soon we're getting a break soon we know what to do no no i'm gonna go i'm gonna go do it i'm glad you painted that as an advantage too because some people might say that's a disadvantage that you don't have to moisturize as much because nobody's gonna see it but you're right you know that warning that early warning is an advantage and i realize right now because I really, I don't love everything about my looks, for sure.

27:40But because I do think that I look young for my age, it makes me realize, unfortunately, I'm thinking this through out loud. I'm saying it as I'm thinking. I have considered, because I have been struggling, and I talked about this on the show recently, I've been struggling to take the step and lose the few pounds I want to lose. I can't get in the zone. Remember, Dip and I were talking about it. What was the language we were using? I'm out of control. I forget what the language we were using. Got it together. Something like that? Yeah, it wasn't together. I'm not together. Yes, thank you, SGG.

28:08I'm not together. And I was thinking about using an enhancement to get it together. They're advertised all over TV. I've seen for some people them be extremely effective. But the problem is, here's why I can't do it. I am sitting at an age, at 46, where I'm a little pudgier than I'd like to be, but I still look young. You mess around and you use one of the trisepatides and lose a bunch of weight quickly, you'll be stoked that you lost the weight. But I guarantee you I get older in a way that I can't get back. I guarantee you. Because you got to do it slowly in the right way because if you do it fast, my face will get drawn.

28:55Now, listen, if you're young, if you're younger, like if instead of 46, I was 36. I would gamble with it because I wouldn't risk that I'm all of a sudden going to turn 55. You could just lose the weight and get thin all of a sudden. Your skin doesn't have – your skin lost that elasticity as it got older. Elasticity. So I'm at a range now where I got to fight and do this. Although I will say this. My dad proudly is using trisepatides in his late 70s. And he's managing – because I've seen some older people do it and get super old fast. My dad looks good. My dad looks good. He's doing it pretty well.

29:30He didn't look particularly – my dad doesn't look old for his age to start out with, and he still doesn't. Right. Although the doctor just cut him off, though, so he's a little sad. His doctor said he lost enough weight. Yeah, no, he got cut off. The doc was like, you're good now. My dad was like, no, if I stop, I'm going to just start gaining weight back. They were like, well, figure it out, bro. Anyways, a break from the Trisepatide talk and how young and beautiful I am at 46. and let's get to something that was beautiful in the ring I thought Jay and Jimmy were pitch perfect on Monday against Punk in that promo and listen specifically we know Jimmy on the mic what he does I feel like Jay has been catching it in a million ways over the last six months to a year anytime there's an opportunity for people to come at Jay they've been getting it and again And like I talked about with Cody earlier, I think a lot of that is probably because of booking.

30:31And when someone gets too hot and they're too big and they eat things too big and they win a title and all of a sudden the magnifying glass gets gigantic. But SGG, that use of that use of the ooze. It was the perfect use of ooze. Jay in that promo the like trying to contain the anger and just screaming to me that is the perfect way to use Jay Uso while Jimmy's the one really talking Jay's the one who looks like he's about to pop off and kill you all of a sudden SGG instead of feeling like yeeted out and like Jay is kind of a little bit of a caricature of himself I felt like in a moment they were fully back to who the Usos are Yeah, I agree And I alluded to this text earlier I'm going to read it for the people After Punk made that Sika comment I jumped right in the group chat and I said You know, I didn't think they needed to end with the dead dad stuff But Them going so heavy into the family stuff Makes me think the bloodline is back And what do we have now?

31:40We have the Usos out there We have Jay ready to crash out Because we've seen Jay pace like that before it's been a long time but we've seen jay pace around like that ready to pounce before and it was when the bloodline was in their heyday that's right jimmy that's what it felt like and roman and they were rocking and it felt like that again on monday night i know roman wasn't there but that's the usos that we loved and i was so happy to see that on monday

32:14let's talk to the people see if the people are on the same page as us 877-344-4893 could you be more into Cody Randy than CM Punk and Roman Reigns and also when was the last time when just on paper the names on paper for both night's main events were as big as this because the one SGG a few years ago when we had the bloodline basically both nights, I kind of can't count that because you basically have the same names being used in both matches. Are you talking about The Rock and Roman and Cody and Seth? Because, yeah, you got the two big names already in one match and then again in another match.

32:59It's like a little bit of a cheat code. But if you just go straight up main events, meaning different people in each one, have we seen bigger than Cody Randy Punk Roman? 877-344-4893. Let's break right now so we can come back. Dipperstein is here. SUG has an answer. I'm sure Dip does as well. Dip on the other side. It's Sheep Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Bubble Yum Bubblegum. Available in a blasting new three-flavor pack with wild cherry, grape, and regular. Bubble Yum keeps it popping. Now, before we bring in the great Dipperstein, I want to give a shout-out to Jonathan Zaslow, our guy Zas, down in Florida in the Miami area.

33:45And he wrote to me earlier about our Nikki Blackheart conversation. He said, Nikki wrestles for the local indie that I go to every now and then down here. Very popular. Looks like a million bucks. Super young. But she's great in the ring and definitely has a chance to be successful. with that speaking of young and looking like a million bucks hey Dip how are you it's time to talk about wrestling are you excited I love it been watching it for years and years never miss it ever how are you feeling that we just found out a little while ago that there is a nickname for you moving around there's some people out there calling you Diphausen I gotta tell you I put a spell on you that's I I'm a magic guy I'm magic you're not cursing never that's the difference between Dan Housen and Dip Housen Dan Housen is cursing people Dan Housen is short has brown hair has a unique voice kind of creeps up on people is fairly persuasive people you know i think are getting used to having him around a lot sounds a lot like dipperstein you know what you're right there's a lot of i'm sensing a similarity also similar in size to some degree yeah we have the same i don't i i'm 6 '1 so how you oh you are that high you are that tall i'm 6 '1 so how how do how How tall do we think Dan Housen is?

35:28I think he's six. That's a good point. Good point. All right. Welcome back to the program, everyone. Before the break, we talked about could there be people out there more excited for Randy Cody than they are punk Roman and SGG? You wanted to weigh in on this. yeah i i felt like punk roman and randy cody it's very much similar stories given that they both have a lot of history and history goes way back to almost around the same time but to me it feels like one story is rooted in like the love and respect that you have for a friend which obviously is is randy cody randy so much as took him under the wing with legacy and had him in a stable and the other one is just pure hate punk says roman never respected him from the beginning never liked them roman made it a point to say you didn't even want me in the shield so why are you trying to take credit for for that and my success and i think it's just interesting that wwe took one coin and examined both sides of the same coin for these two main event stories at wrestlemania Yeah.

36:43Dip, suffice it to say you're more excited for Punk and Roman. Yes. Yes. It just feels like such a look. I love Randy Orton. I've been a Randy Orton guy for a very long time. Is that true? You've been a Randy guy for a long time. Yeah. Yes. You don't think that's true. You think I'm making that up for the show? No, no. You don't believe me when I say I'm a Randy guy. No, it's not true. Or no, you don't think he's making it up for the show. I like a good wrestler like Randy Orton. Everyone, if you love wrestling, let's be honest. If you are a fan of professional wrestling, you are a fan of Randy Orton.

37:19I'm sorry. There's no way to be a fan of the craft and not be a fan of Randy Orton. I don't know anyone who has ever said to. I have never heard the words. I don't like Randy Orton. I've never heard those words. I know. Or that guy. No, that guy really sucks. But like, you know, is there enough time left to tell a real story with the two of them? I don't know. I think it remains. Is there enough time? We have five weeks. It feels like WrestleMania is tomorrow. It's not. It's not. And I'm glad because I've got weight to lose. We got time. We all do. We all do. But by the way, I think that's a good sign not to pivot away from the Randy conversation.

37:55I think it's a good sign that it feels like WrestleMania is tomorrow, but we still have so much time left. And that means that the builds to these matches are going to get that much stronger. I hope. the Usos thing with CM Punk turning him like 15 % tweener this week I think is a risky proposition but they did it and now that's how you took his back and forth with the Usos I did because now the crowd is chanting you know apologize and the Usos are babyfaces right now in a major way and they're you're talking ish to punk. I don't know. Anyway, that's it. That's it. That's a really interesting thought here.

38:43Cause are we going to, are we going to now end up leaning into pushing Roman towards baby face for that match? Cause that would, that to me. Roman's not bad. No, I mean, no, no, but I mean, I mean the baby face. I mean, I don't think they need to see him. Punk is at that. Prior to this week, last Monday, this last past Monday, CM Punk is the baby face of all baby faces. Correct. That's my point. That's exactly my point. So like I was sort of of the I was sort of of the mindset that at this moment because it's punk. I know they've kind of half-assed the Roman leaning into being a good guy versus more just to coin a phrase that was brought up earlier, just being the guy.

39:45It seems like over the last couple years they've hinted at good guy Roman, but then he comes back to just being about himself. Let me just say this. If we're one day going to get all out good guy Roman, which I don't think they ever need to do like the clear absolute baby face roman this ain't the time to do it if i'm pushing anyone towards getting booed i am pushing roman towards being the guy who's getting booed well here's the thing punk's baby punk's baby face pop scg it's been the biggest one in wwe in the industry for a couple of years now it has but here's the thing i think that and you know not to get on my high horse or whatever i think that the money is in pushing them both towards the middle you don't establish a clear i was just gonna say that or a clear heel you push them both to the middle they're both tweeners because that's gonna give you know that that lends itself to some unpredictability and like anything could happen beyond just the fans choosing who they want to cheer for who they want to boo that opens up much more possibilities than okay punk you have to go heel roman we're gonna put you with your cousins everybody's gonna cheer is going to be baby faces and like nah these guys are going to play in that gray area and then the fans are going to choose but that's going to let more people in on the story and you agree here's what i'm going to say what and i agree with sug and i was going to say a version of what he just said the i think the ideal outcome for the roman match roman cm punk is the for them for wwe is the rock Hogan look both ways stare down in the ring in that moment night two and you have half the crowd and that exact moment chanting CM Punk and the other half going we are we want to see or yeah or let's go Roman CM Punk CM Punk there we go there we go we found it it took a little time we got there though let's what I say see no no we figured out let's go Roman let's go Roman CM Punk and I think that is what they're after they're calling it the biggest wrestling match ever or whatever they're calling it.

41:50They're trying to move. That's the moniker of the match. Then I got news for you. Then I got news for you. We can't have the same thing both nights. What does that mean? It means Randy or Cody. Someone's got to go there. It's going to be Randy. Come on. We know this, right? Don't say that, Greg. We don't know that. I'm thinking Cody's definitely winning that match. No, no. He needs to be a heel or babyface like somebody being subtly in a camp. I think Randy is going to be... Randy is un-boo-able right now. I don't think Randy is happy. Randy is never un-boo-able. Randy is un-boo-able at this point.

42:34That is my take today on Cheap Heat Live. Randy will never be a heel again. Nah. Hell no. There's no way we can say Randy is this... ultimate pro wrestler, this wrestler's wrestler, and then he's unbubled. He's never going to be the heel again. We played this game a few years ago with a gentleman by the name of The Rock, who was solidly a babyface for like 20 years. Yeah, he had the Hollywood Rock moment, but after that, solid babyface. He popped up only for the babyface pop, only to disrespect the heels, only to chum it up with the babyfaces. And then he came in as final boss and people were like, this is too cool people are not really gonna boo this they booed the hell out of the rock the rock and if the rock the rock is different the rock is not different because randy is gonna come around punting people in the head he might he might even go back to pooping in people's gear bags we don't know how far randy is willing to take it but randy is somebody who can definitely inspire the hatred that you need to boo a heel.

43:44I want to say this right now. I'm in lockstep with Dip. Me and Diphausen are on the same page. You just don't want to be cursed. No, I don't want to be cursed. That might be true. But I am telling you beyond a shadow of a doubt. I was up there on the post show set with Randy. When he was like a little kid, how much fun he's having being the good guy. the new like childish like shirt they made for him the weird blue shirt i hate it i hate the shirt but they're a pug blue shirt but i want that shirt by the way i need the shirt i love the shirt i hate the shirt i hate that shirt so much that i love it no well how about this i hate the shirt and and it may be the best randy shirt since the old parental advisory style Randy Orton shirts.

44:33Randy Orton here's you want a hot take? Randy Orton and The Rock. The two greatest stars of all time with the worst merch. What are your thoughts folks? Randy's shirts in the middle of his career when he was the man the like generic looking what dip what's the what's the whack company everyone like at UFC shows wears? Oh the affliction tees. Oh the bad affliction looking tees. Oh Randy's merch used to be so bad. But you see the blue shirt. You see the smile. I am telling you, I'm with Dip. That man will never be booed again. He's a baby face the whole way. If there's going to be a heel, it's going to be Cody Rhodes.

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45:52Welcome back to Cheap Heat With your forever 24-7 champ Peter Rosenberg Do you have any scenes with Roman? We actually, I'm going to tell you something. We had one day on set and the way the set was, and he could probably reiterate this. I think they thought we were going to fight or have issue. For real. because they were very cognizant on the radios of stepping out with Guile. Akuma will be coming on. They were very cognizant of we would not cross paths. And we did because I had to tell him the direction of one of the trailers. And that was our only moment. And it was a very awkward, like the weirdest.

46:30That's a crazy relationship. I have nothing from admiration for what he's done and accomplished. But that is a, I don't know what it is. I don't know. I don't even like talking about it because I don't know what it is. It's just a very strange relationship, but with Joe, we cross paths. Not with Roman Reigns. I don't know if there's a difference. And same as me. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. What do you think, SGG? More working and building towards an eventual payoff in the getting a trilogy situation here or legitimate actual thoughts on the relationship of Cody and Roman? I don't know but I'm going to believe that this is legitimate that they have a weird relationship that they put it together for the two of the biggest WrestleMania main events in recent history because they are pros but that they actually have that weird relationship because after Cody Rhodes won the championship right after we got his first big interview as champ.

47:31and one of the questions we asked him in that interview was you know was there a moment of mutual respect between you and Roman you know after the match did you guys get to share and he said no he didn't see Roman Roman was gone by the time he got back from the curtain and then you know Roman did an interview with a different outlet and from his perspective we got to hear that he did in fact leave he I think the quote was you know if he wants to spend having much time baby facing in the ring i'm not gonna wait around for you i have things to do and he left so this seems like more of that that you know they're co-workers they don't have to get along with each other they don't have to like each other but they are the pros and when the camera's on they can do what they need to do to make the magic for the fans but at work on a different job they're not gonna be buddy buddy um dip what about you

48:33I like Joe I've met Joe he seems like a great guy that's right that's right I think he's working I think he's working he's Cody's Cody Rhodes he's always working Cody Rhodes works that's the thing I think I think in the case of Cody taking anything at face value is tough. I think he is as much of a worker as there is in all of WWE at this point. 100%. Cody Rhodes is a very smart man, and he knows exactly what he's saying, and he absolutely did not need to say, I don't know if there's a difference. He could have ended the sentence right before that and just said, I don't really know. But he did not say.

49:23I don't know if there's a difference was good though, because he said, and same for me. So, so, so when those guys come back and when they touch again, you know, it's already out there that like, yeah, we're characters on the TV show and working, but like he already sort of gave the little, little morsel of this is really us though. like yes roman reigns and joe is one of the same cody rhodes cody runnels or you know whatever his birth certificate says it's one in the same we are who we are and i think he enhanced the work when he said i don't know the difference and it's the same for me i look i you know we're all around wrestling very much now at this point in our lives i i just they're you know these people are co-workers they can't it's they see each other every week you know well no they don't is that the problem roman doesn't show up and there are different shows the one thing i don't know everyone needs to be nice to each other that sounds great now the the for you you i i know you're being silly and you know enough to know that like roman isn't sitting around with everybody like that we all know that part that that's Punk brought that up in the promo too.

50:43Roman flies private. Roman has a bus. Roman has his own locker room. Roman is a great guy. But if you're not making an effort with Roman and trying to find a moment to say hello, it is certainly easy these days to not end up seeing Roman a lot. Now, in my experience, I either make an effort to try to bump into him and say hello and pay my respects because I eat the food that's on the table. You know what I mean? I enjoy the food that's been so aptly lain upon the table, and I want to enjoy it, so I thank him. But I can see... You acknowledge him also. Well, of course. What do you think? Wait, he's not an animal?

51:33So, but if you're another big time wrestler who has your own bus and your own locker room and your own this and your own that, are you walking around to go acknowledge the big guy when you're also the big guy? But see, he's Roman's still the big guy. Roman's still the big guy. Title or no title. But the thing is, but Cody's the big guy, too. I got news for you. Let me explain something right now. Okay. This is the craziest. I'm going to give you, listen, I'm going to give you my intel from my perspective. All right? Okay. Oh, you say intel. That's not even speculation. Well, it's my observation, and it's completely honest.

52:17It is completely real, and I don't even know that I would have ever had this thought previously, but when thinking about it for real, like Cody is in his own space. He's around a lot. He's approachable for sure. Says hello to everyone. Super gracious. Blah, blah, blah. But he's also in his own space. Own bus. Suited up. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't just see Cody walking around loose. Cody's in a suit. And then he's ready for his match. And he's in his own space. Super friendly always. But he's the guy. Roman is in his own space. In his own bus. You know, you might catch him getting a haircut.

53:01but neither of them are just lamping around and catering. They're in their own worlds. Brock, number three. Brock's in his room. When he's there, you might catch him for a second before the match, see him with Paul or something like that, but Brock is doing his own thing. He's the guy. The fourth one, at the top, at the tippy top, I never would have expected this was how it's going to be, but this is how it is, is CM Punk, who was around all day with everyone all the time. He's the only one. He likes the lamp. No, the man is lamping and lamping and lamping, dude. Well, also, can I say, as it should be, right?

53:49Because, listen, he's CM Punk. We love him. He's very popular. He brings in a lot of money. He's entertaining. He moves the merch. The crowd yells and still throws rolls at his feet. and all of that but let's be real like the guy i mentioned on the call earlier petty punk is still in there somewhere people are still waiting for him to show like glimpses of being that negative guy that he you know it's more persona now but like people are still waiting for him to be that that negative guy that he was in other companies and even late stage in this company so very much late stage he kind of has to he kind of has to like be around and be approachable and cultivate these relationships because but i think it's more than that waiting to throw the knife in his back and say like this is who he was i'm sorry i have cut you off there you're you're correct people are waiting to throw that back in his face right like there are people who like me was definitely saying at some point guys at some point it's changing and you know roman on this show you said it on I said it on this program.

54:54Roman said it in their promo, basically. Like, we know that you're playing a game, and we know that you act like you're happy to go on these tours, but really, I don't know what... The only motivation I can see from CM Punk is that he sees that there's a lot less road in front of him than behind. Mm-hmm. And I think he was gone long enough to know that as much as he can be a misanthrope. Is it misanthrope? I don't know. I think it's throat. It's misanthrope, right? As much as he can be the loner who's just like. As much as he can be the loner guy who's off in his own world. I think he missed the boys.

55:47I think he missed the camaraderie. This is a guy who loves to talk wrestling. He does. and talk everything else. Like, so my whole spiel there about the different ways those guys carry themselves was not to knock any one of them. I think all of them have the right to carry themselves at this stage however they want. In my interaction with all of them, including Brock, who scares the shit out of people, they're all very friendly to go say hello to, but they operate differently. And I do think it's ironic and funny that Punk is the one, though, who is like literally chilling like he's in catering chilling he's there chilling he's chilling um it's just not the version i never predicted that we're what now over two years it was two years at survivor series we're two years and like four months into this thing and that is still who cm punk is to me is super interesting the guy who said i'm not here to make friends i'm here to make money and don't get me wrong it sounds like he's making a lot of money but it also sounds like he's back there making some friends too since it's our first time uh my first time being on the air on Sirius this week gotta say rest in peace to the great DJ Lord Sear uh who we lost this week awesome awesome uh DJ who you may have known from Shade 45 you may know him all the way back to Stretch and Bob Bito to Fondulum Records to records he put out just a awesome funny quintessentially perfectly hip-hop guy who we lost this week at I believe 53 and way too soon dip I know you were a fan oh yeah big lord seared guy I want one of the biggest listen to him almost every day the drunk mix yes the drunk mix love lord sear one of the biggest lord sear guys in the biz today yeah man really really sweet guy um and and was bummed to uh super bummed to hear that I've been chatting with him and hoping to get together at some point.

57:52It didn't happen. And he's just such a staple in hip-hop. And I think this was, like, pretty sudden. Like, I know people who talked to him earlier this week. So really, really sad news. We have about eight minutes left here, guys, to talk to the people. And I'm told we have the first woman on the phone lines in a very, very long time. It's been eons since we heard from a woman. crystal i'm told in the philadelphia areas on the line hey crystal hello hey how are you thanks for calling cheap eat i'm well thanks i'm a first time caller but long time listener now when you say long time listener do you mean to the actual show or just to one part of the actual show great question it's varied over time but many iterations of the show over the last 10 years actually.

58:45Wow. And are you even such a huge fan of the show that you decided to live with and marry one of the hosts of the show? Indeed, I did. Yeah. Wow. This is, ladies and gentlemen, Crystal Dipperstein, everyone. Can you believe it? All right, Crystal, we were having the conversation. Dip was putting himself over saying he helps the looks quotient on the show, which, by the way, I don't think either of us disagree with that. No. But SGG, oh, I heard that. Dip, you hear that? Yeah, I heard it. I heard it. SGG, you better watch out before Dip comes out with a pair of trunks with a picture of Crystal on the front.

59:28You know what I'm saying? But then SGG said he felt that we didn't need Dip to up our looks quotient. And I said, SGG, are you suggesting that Crystal married you for your looks? and he said that is what I'm suggesting so we wanted to get you on the line and find out did you in fact marry your husband stat guy Greg for his looks right because I don't want to speak for you so that's why you're here I want you to speak for yourself and let the people know the truth thank you for the context I appreciate that I was told that I should call in and let the people know why I married stat guy Greg and that was the answer coincidentally Really, just because of his looks.

1:00:10It was part of it. He's a very sexy man. What were the other parts because of the looks? The other parts of why you wanted to marry this man. Yeah, the other things. The people want to know. Everyone out there is looking for love. And everyone is seeing SGG and they're going, this guy is a wrestling nerd just like me. How did he score the now Crystal Hyde? Well, in 2016, about less than six months after we started dating, he took me to the most romantic date ever. We went to the garden and we sat in the second row and got to watch some wrestling live. And that was what put it over the top for you?

1:00:55For sure. SGG, let me ask you a question. How did you come across in 2016, how did you come across second row tickets? I said, Rosenberg, do you happen to have? they're going to be at the garden. Actually, it's, it's a text that I'm going to send you after we'd off the show, by the way, Rosenberg, WWE is going to be in the garden in two weeks. I got news for you. That was a very, that was a very different era. I'm really glad you didn't meet her in 2026. Cause y 'all would have been like two 43. So, um, Crystal, thank you for, thank you for, marrying our guy. And thank you for, uh, being a, uh, a woman who was actually willing to call this program.

1:01:35And thank you for all your support over the years, directly and indirectly and not only that but be a spearheading getting two of the most beloved presents that maya has received since her birth thank you oh thank you it has been a pleasure listening and calling and dip we're going to be in la the first week of april see you then that's right oh how do i not know about this we just booked all right you need to stay at dipper lago no she's there for a conference so we got a nice hotel situation on where are you staying we'll let you know we're not going to say it on the air you know because then the then the the hide hive will be waiting outside the front door remember you guys in thank you crystal have a great weekend all right thanks guys take care presidential sleep wow how did this sgg i'm going to say this respectfully how did this schlub loser sgg pull that woman are you kidding me The trick is, for everybody listening, A, you do have to bless up the second row, like ringside seats, because it really is better when they get that close.

1:02:40And after that hook, then you can go back and, you know, you can eventually sit in those bleeds. But if you want to intro it with the second row seats and in the looks department, you got to go schlub after you've proved yourself in the other areas. So you got to come strong with the looks first, check the other boxes, and then you can schlub it out. You cannot start schlub. I just got a voice note that I was able to read. So I think I know it's appropriate to play because he says, yeah, don't know if you saw this on social media. Okay, but this is obviously public information. I just want to give everyone a – this is what it – if you're wondering, if you've been missing, if you say what does the great what is the great kevin patrick up to you remember kevin patrick the former voice of raw don't you dip that's right gigantic fan of the man love what's the crack with kevin patch that's so funny listen this is real life kevin patrick here we go see what he's done see if this works it didn't hold on here it comes here it comes why is it not playing All right, forget it, guys.

1:03:51That's very rare that something like that would happen. When I play video by you, Pete. I'm so disappointed and upset with myself. Because when I play something, they play. And to not have that happen. Rosenberg, you beautiful bastard. I just saw on social media in the Irish exit that you're doing a show there today. Don't know if you saw this on social media or not, but I am going to be a co-owner of an Irish exit. We're bringing one to Atlanta. We're working with the Dead Rabbit group out of New York, as I'm sure you know there, down by Wall Street. I don't know. I don't know, but I appreciate this information.

1:04:21You know them? Oh. So we're taking a dead rabbit, and I'm working with the team that you'll be working with the odd one or two today, I'm sure. But they'll, yeah. This guy is the most wonderful, everything he ever. Was that Sheamus?

1:04:39By the way, Sheamus and Kevin Patrick, they were thick as thieves when Sheamus was. I will tell you, no one sticks together in WWE like the Irishman. What's the crack? Let's hear it. We have another call out. Another what? We have another call I think we should get to before we get out of here because we asked for it. Oh, my God. Caitlin and Iwa. Caitlin, we're under a minute. You got to go quick. What do you got, Caitlin? Well, I just jumped on right when you guys were finishing up the segment and you're talking about no women call. And you mentioned The Rock and Roman, and The Rock is my favorite wrestler of all time.

1:05:16And so I said, I better call. Well, you know what? We appreciate you, even though you got in late. The fact that you still made us look good by having you be a woman who's calling the show and is not one of our wives, that is major for our credibility. And we hope next week we get you earlier, Caitlin, every single Friday from noon to 2 right here on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. If you missed the show, you can go listen to the podcast wherever you find podcasts. Cheap Heat is available for you, plus on YouTube on Rosenberg Wrestling. SGG Dip, stay mage this weekend. Stay mage, okay? And thank you, Caitlin.

1:05:50All right, please. Thank you, Caitlin. Thank you to Kelly. Thanks to Sumo. Thanks to Emilio. Patreon, we got an episode up there as well. See you on Patreon and catch you next week, folks.