

Cheap Heat Live episode previewing Wrestlepalooza (WWE’s first PLE on ESPN2) and discussing major pro-wrestling storylines, including John Cena vs Brock Lesnar, AJ Styles vs CM Punk/Becky Lynch/Seth Rollins (mentioned as upcoming topics), and broader debate about counter-programming (AEW event city speculation). The show also transitions into an interview with Drew McIntyre about his Wrestlepalooza title shot vs Cody Rhodes and his mainstream rise.
Drew McIntyre (WWE star; former WWE champion; returned to WWE after a period away; Scottish performer; describes being in his “prime” and credits WWE’s growth via Netflix/ESPN). Also featured as hosts/regulars: Peter Rosenberg (host; former wrestling media personality), Greg “Stack Guy” (Greg DeMarco implied by “Stack Guy Greg”), and SUG/SGG (co-hosts; wrestling commentary/media figures).
Wrestlepalooza is airing on ESPN2 at 3 p.m. and includes Cena vs Lesnar as a “history-making” ESPN broadcast. McIntyre says WWE has grown massively globally and that his recognition has surged in the last two years. He credits Triple H’s phone conversation for his return. He claims Cody Rhodes is unlikely to have interference because McIntyre has been “screwed out of” title shots for years.
McIntyre recounts The Rock gifting him a sword and The Rock naming him as a future superstar (TMZ clip). Cena-Lesnar match predictions include possible non-clean finishes and storyline setups for Lesnar’s next feud. The hosts speculate AEW should counter-program in Las Vegas.
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The hosts discuss the upcoming Wrestlepalooza event and introduce their guest.
“It's still rooted Oh, I'm sorry Oh, oh, I'm sorry.”
A humorous recount of past events and celebrity encounters at Peter Palooza.
“At that time, he was full Odell Beckham Jr.”
Discussion on lost photographs and the impact of divorce on memories.
“I'm thinking Drew McIntyre has surpassed Reba.”
A conversation about AEW's potential response to WWE's WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia.
Discussing fan anticipation and speculations for WrestleMania events.
Peter shares his enthusiasm for the new ESPN WWE show he's hosting.
“Welcome back to Cheap Heat Live Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7, Peter Rosenberg, Stack Guy Greg, Dipperstein, I mentioned at the top of the show, and I'll mention it a couple more times because I'm very excited.”
Conversation about Pat McAfee's role at Wrestlepalooza and his future in WWE.
“Speaking of people who can talk from Indianapolis, does anybody know what the role of Pat McAfee is going to be at the Palooza?”
Reviewing the standout match between Sami Zayn and Rey Phoenix and their in-ring skills.
“Sammy Zane and Ray Phoenix had match of the week this week.”
Discussion on the potential for Rey Phoenix and Penta to team up effectively.
“But I think what people forget is there's so much talent right now in that locker room that sometimes I think there's strength in numbers.”
Analyzing the status of midcard talent and their viability in WWE.
“And there's like an initial shot in the arm for the division.”
Exploring potential strategies for AEW to counter WWE's Saudi events.
“are people who hate on it but i think lucha bros coming together would actually make them a bigger thing it would be a good shot in the arm for the tag division yeah because the penta thing is now we've seen it.”
Exploring the history and significance of AEW's beginnings and WWE's Vegas events.
“They could handle AEW and the other indies coming in and doing a stateside super show in Vegas because WWE already set that up.”
Predictions and analysis on the upcoming match between John Cena and Brock Lesnar.
“But a lot happened on wrestling programming this week as we head to the Palooza, which includes the Palooza, bro, which of course includes this guy, John Cena.”
Evaluating potential outcomes and dynamics in the Cena vs. Lesnar match and the broader storyline implications.
“Because frankly, if you guys remember the history of Cena and Lesnar matches, they generally do not look like typical John Cena matches.”
Speculating on the impact and reception of potential WWE appearances by Batista.
“But that Lesnar puts Cena in a State where it's like okay Because they already said this is last SmackDown, but then he has all these other SmackDowns and Raws before the year is done.”
Debating the nostalgia of Evolution and discussing anticipated future matches at Wrestlepalooza.
“If you really want to go crazy, guys, if we got the final boss, which there are rumors that he will end up on that show, what if we were to get the final boss and then you got this?”
Discussion on Wrestlepalooza and key matches to look forward to.
“I'm a gigantic fan of the Evolution theme song.”
Drew McIntyre discusses his championship opportunity and career evolution.
“Would it even be a real WWE event if Drew McIntyre was not involved?”
Drew reflects on WWE's growth and his recognition as a superstar.
Drew shares his experiences and bond with The Rock.
“My wife especially has noticed the difference that we can't go to dinner anymore without people noticing.”
Drew discusses the positivity of The Rock and other wrestlers.
“But then as I became a performer, I'm admiring certain people even more because I get to know about their work ethic and their drive and what makes them tick.”
Insights into Drew's thoughts on CM Punk and their rivalries.
“Who was the bigger curmudgeon working week to week, you or CM Punk?”
Drew discusses his journey and frustrations leading to WrestleMania.
“So Priest is someone that belongs to WWE, belongs on our roster.”
Drew shares his desire to face John Cena after Cody Rhodes.
“would you be interested in maybe posing the opportunity for Cena to take you on before this thing ends?”
Drew reflects on his past championship experiences and aspirations.
“Some kind of outside reasons prevented me from getting the hands on the title.”
Drew emphasizes his focus on fighting for himself and his family.
“It became apparent to me, not just with the roster, see me as a threat, see it as, oh yes, one of our biggest threats is gone, but the fans moved on and it's not their fault.”
Hosts share humorous anecdotes and reflections after the interview.
“She, Pete, Live, our SGG and Dipper back.”
Exploring the humorous and social implications of snoring across different classes.
“It's every, every, I've gotten, I've gotten K a bunch of things and then it'll kill me.”
A recount of a memorable experience at an Islanders game, including humorous anecdotes.
“And the Islanders invited us to UBS arena.”
Discussion about AJ Lee's return to wrestling and the passionate reactions from fans.
“That's what I said, but either way, everyone's super into it.”
Analyzing the character dynamics between Becky Lynch and Seth Rollins in wrestling.
Exploring Becky Lynch's strategies as a heel and her self-assertion as the greatest.
Discussion on up-and-coming wrestlers and their potential in the industry.
Discussion about the upcoming Wrestlepalooza special on ESPN 2.

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On Cheap Heat with Peter Rosenberg, what are the key points of this episode?
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0:03Peter Rosenberg!
0:05Drew McIntyre: Shout out to that guy. The major stick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The king of kings. 24 seconds. Champions jam. A thousand percent confirmed. M-mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. M-m-m-m-m-m-mage. M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m. Male muscular M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m Midge M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m - It's still rooted M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m Midge M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m Male muscular M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m Midge M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m It's still rooted Oh, I'm sorry Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
0:55Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
0:56Drew McIntyre: Oh, oh, oh. Thank you, man. Sweet, sweet Peter Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was Rappod. It was Rappod. It's professional wrestling. It's professional wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. I'm your forever 24-7 champion Peter Rosenberg I am coming to you today from Indianapolis, Indiana That's right I don't know if you know guys There's a wrestling event here called Wrestlepalooza I'm not just making that up That is the actual event And it is happening And today at 3 o 'clock There's actually a special about said event Airing on ESPN2 hosted by yours truly at three o 'clock we'll get to that but for now i bring in uh from philadelphia pennsylvania the physically large stack guy greg what's up fellas sadly reporting that greg history week is over oh but oh i'm sorry i'm really really sorry i know it's hard for you um yeah everything has to come to an end and also coming to us from los angeles california before making his way i'm told to uh indianapolis indiana it is uh 38 at 35 dipperstein hey pal i'm ready for the palooze dude you're gonna come pull it up i'm gonna be paloozing and paloozing i yeah it wrestle palooza is the easiest abbreviated thing i'm i'm texting people about palooza and i'm saying palooze dude and by the way we haven't even talked about the level of gimmick infringement considering Peter Palooza was an epic event for like seven years yeah I mean I was there you made it to a Peter Palooza ask you to go to a Peter Palooza I don't think I got to one wow your parents wouldn't take you to that either huh just like WrestleMania no do you remember the epic dinner we had one night after the one Peter Palooza it was quite something do you mean the dinosaur one no uh it was at uh you know the place that we like your place was it jacob's pickles yeah jacob's pickles oh this was the this was the amber rose odell beckham jr yes um who else was there i don't know i just remember i in that moment i remember like i didn't i didn't realize it was odell beckham jr and amber's like this is my boyfriend Odell I'm like oh how you doing I'm dipperstein I remember during that dinner telling dip this guy is a very big deal this is peak Odell this is you know my god I almost said a really I I almost yeah I shouldn't say it but I should this isn't Stefan Diggs of this era okay this is Odell Beckham Jr.
4:05Drew McIntyre: At that time, he was full Odell Beckham Jr. And then there was someone else mage at the dinner. It was the rapper. It was like some huge rapper or something. It was like, I don't know if it was Mr. Killer, Mr. Ghostface Killer, or somebody like that. No, it was a legend? Yeah, there was a legend. Because this was the night ASAP Rocky did my birthday. But But it wasn't ASAP Rocky. Was it Bronson? Who came? I don't remember. I don't remember. But it was. It could have been Dragon Lee. Dragon Lee could have. By the way, does anyone have pictures on their phone from this night? Someone should have pictures on their phone from this night.
4:45Drew McIntyre: I have nothing. Nothing. I got news for you. I got news for you. Is that epic that there are no pictures? Yeah. And I got news for you. That's what that means. I got news for you. There's someone who could have pictures of it. And if so, she's probably deleted them.
5:00Drew McIntyre: That's unfortunate. god that that is an annoying let me let me tell you something kids out there listening to the show and don't worry we have so much wrestling to talk but let me tell you something divorce creates a major problem with the pictures the problem is part of being married is having someone else to document your life and and then when the person is gone the documentation if not handled properly is gone as well but in their perspective it is handled properly well i mean by the way everyone every person is different i personally believe personally that to break up with someone and then physically delete the photos in an era where we live with digital photos to me that is psychotic behavior if it was your actual life like you don't want wait till you calm down you don't want to delete your actual life that is stupid really stupid now i have another problem though that's deeper than that although easier more easily solved but still a pain in the ass the physical pictures of me the most physical pictures of me that may exist anywhere in the world like childhood and your parents house right well probably that yes but second to that would be my teenage years of which I have nothing.
6:19Drew McIntyre: I have none of my teenage stuff, basically. My parents as a teenager maybe took seven photos of me. I swear to you, once I got to be like not cute anymore, it was like, once I wasn't like wrapping the Super Bowl shuffle on camera or singing Born in the USA, there is no documentation that I was a human being. The only person who has them was my high school sweetheart. Now, I am still friends with her. No, we're fine. her I can communicate with much more easily about these things the problem is she's moved a lot and all of her photos are currently in a storage of her mother's in Brasilia, Brazil oh say goodbye to those pictures you are never seeing those pictures I could see that this would be a great I think you should leave sketch or something like you traveling to Brazil to break into the mother's storage facility to see your teenage pictures.
7:17Drew McIntyre: I know it's a nightmare scenario. And I've talked to her about it. I'm like, hey, can I like, is there a way we can get the photos? She was like, ah, yeah. Next time I go to Brazil, I'm like, oh, God, I'm never getting these. Real quick, if you guys want to be a part of today's big palooza, we call it cheap heat palooza, by the way. If you want to be a part of it, the phone lines open 877-344-4893. 877-344-4893. And guys, It's just a whole lot happening today. We have Drew McIntyre joining the show next hour. What are your thoughts on that? One of the great McIntyres. I mean, second only to Reba, I would say.
7:58You think he's second to Reba? I think on the McIntyre, Matt Rushmore, he might be Washington. Reba might be Jefferson. Oh, stop.
8:05Drew McIntyre: You're being silly. You're being silly. You're more into Reba than Drew? It's not about who we're into. It's about what the world dictates. Yeah. I gotta say she absolutely is though. Reba is number one McIntyre. There's no question. You think Reba is the number one McIntyre? There's not even a question. What do you mean? I'm thinking Drew McIntyre has surpassed Reba. She's the Kleenex of McIntyre's. I'm telling you right now. There's no one bigger than Reba. I love Drew. I'll say it right to his face. I don't think there's enough he can do to surpass Reba. What do you mean? I make an amazing country album?
8:42Drew McIntyre: No. first it starts with beating starts with beating cody rhodes tomorrow all right first you got to be cody rhodes for the championship then make it and then then you know learn how to play the banjo you think go banjo yeah and then maybe he records it like a beautiful country album country's a very hot genre right now it's very very hot i mean listen we love we love drew no disrespect but when i think about wrestlemania 8 there are two performers that drew mcintyre is just not gonna supersede no matter how made she gets he's not gonna look better in a kilt than roddy piper he is not gonna be more mage than reba mcintyre it's just that simple i think you should ask him i think i think i think uh how do you spell mcintyre again i literally every time i try to spell it it's one of the hardest names to just off the top of your head mci it's mci i-n-t-y-r-e yeah she goes mce i believe is that right i believe she does go mce could reba be drew's father or mother is she old enough i search for famous mcintyres yeah here's what we have it's not it's not what you'd think considering it's a pretty popular name the only three that i'm familiar with you have drew mcintyre who's of course drew galloway um you have reba mcintyre who is number one on this list the queen of country as she's known big big big title to have and then we we can't ever forget joey mcintyre from new kids on the block one of the great mcintyres um there's robert mcintyre a scottish professional golf golfer who's actually playing right now, was really good in the U.S.
10:25Drew McIntyre: Open. In academia, there's some other McIntyres. But yeah, there's not a ton of famous McIntyres. What do you think of that? I think Joey might bump Drew down. No! No! I'm sorry, man. Listen, I'm telling you right now, SUG, here's what I got to worry about, both of my partners. You have Dip, who every once in a while makes a joke and doesn't know quite where the line is if someone will smack you in the face. We saw it almost happen with LA Night. We saw it. And then you have... To Cheap Heat Live. It was very uncomfortable when Dip went, who are you again? Oh my God. I thought it was goodnight and good luck.
11:07Drew McIntyre: And then you have SGG, who's much smarter about these situations, but when he does say something, because of his physical stature now, you may be in a fight like drew mcintyre can look at you sug and think this is a we could shoot the fair one i mean look it's he could he could and he would absolutely win in fact in fact i would take the beating and then file a lawsuit just to fyi of course you would file it yourself absolutely but i mean come on we're talking about joey mcintyre the kids are heartthrob the kids are beautiful how did sgg speaking of espn the theme of the weekend how did how did sgg just turn into stephen a smith not with the voice tone but with what he just said i mean i mean we're talking about joey mcintyre we are he could sing all right he could he's got the right stuff how do we know that that we're talking about musical artists how do we know that drew mcintyre can't sing and could he sing as good as joey mcintyre or reba mcintyre we we know that he can't sing because after he lost to roman reigns at a clash of the castle he sang with um see the boxer what's his name tyson fury see right and they both were just see this is why they didn't have the vocals it was entertaining but they didn't have they didn't have the joey mcintyre smooth velvety vocals this is why you don't ever disrespect the stat guy because he has a stat sitting right there All right, here's what we do.
12:39Drew McIntyre: We have a lot to get to today, friends. We got a whole lot of conversation to have today to get you ready for Wrestlepalooza. Talk about all the things going on. I also, guys, got a question on the Patreon this week that I think is great to have here. Someone threw out with the WWE WrestleMania to Saudi news isn't this the ultimate time for aew to try to counter program and well and throw a massive event in at a similar time in the united states not i don't think they should do it at a similar time i think they should do it at the regular wrestlemania time like prime time it's going to be open because what you mean was was that going to be going to make the Saudis stay up until 2 p.m 2 a.m for 8 p.m here because basically the question that came to the patreon was if you were a w what major city would you run in to counter program to WrestleMania and I thought it was a very interesting thought you know we've gotten into this weird world of counter programming we're seeing it this weekend where now Russell Palooza has knocked the AW pay-per-view I think what are they starting at noon now yeah I believe totally they shifted everything right if you're noticing you know fans having a lot to say about wrestlemania and saudi arabia if you're aw i i that it's an interesting thought what city would you go to if you wanted to say hey there's an opening because guys where's the big wrestlecon going to be that year where's all the big indie shows going to be that year where's there's just interesting conversation for us to speculate on as the show goes on and an obvious answer that i'm going to give to you oh you have an obvious answer i do have an obvious answer all right well maybe you can get to it next and then we'll get into the card of Wrestlepalooza and talk about everything else that was the week in professional wrestling right here on Pro Wrestling Nation 24 7 this is Cheap Heat Live.
14:41Drew McIntyre: Promotional consideration paid for by the following stalk chocolate reason if you like chocolate then you'll love reason extra chewy chocolate caramels covered with a rich chocolate coating. Welcome back to Cheap Heat Live Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7, Peter Rosenberg, Stack Guy Greg, Dipperstein, I mentioned at the top of the show, and I'll mention it a couple more times because I'm very excited. I mean, guys, 3 o 'clock on ESPN 2, I am hosting the first ever true ESPN WWE show. Ever. 3 o 'clock today on ESPN 2, and my co-hosts for the show are none other than the great Big E Tour, a.k.a. Big E.
15:28Drew McIntyre: That's a former world champion to you and me. Money in the Bank winner. Tag champion. Part of the greatest tag team of all time. And near champion, but not quite, but one day, Tyrese Halliburton. We will all be together on ESPN2 at 3 o 'clock p.m. S-U-G, you rolled your eyes. Yeah, I mean, as a New Yorker, a near champion is as close as I hope he ever gets. As close as he got this year is as close as I hope he ever gets to an NBA championship. He seems like a great guy. He seems like me and I, he and I will get along great. That's what it seems like. But, you know, when that shot clock goes on and when it's time for basketball minutes, I wish him nothing but the worst, at least against the New York Knicks.
16:13Drew McIntyre: He is not popular in New York, but I will tell you one thing, New Yorkers, be prepared for a heavy dose of Tyrese Halliburton this weekend. He's everywhere. I would assume he is currently injured, so there's no preparation for this NBA season happening right now. He is out for the entire year. And this event is in his town, and he truly loves it. He's a great talker. So I would assume you're going to get yourself a heavy dose of Mr. Halliburton. Speaking of people who can talk from Indianapolis, does anybody know what the role of Pat McAfee is going to be at the Palooza? I thought he was on Common.
16:50announced yeah i was gonna say dip i believe it's been announced that he's gonna be returning to commentary oh so that's official i didn't know that i think triple eight said it um last month wow i didn't realize that yeah he's gonna be on commentary he's he's making his his triumphant
17:05Drew McIntyre: return so it's so they're gonna go it'll be back to the cole wade pat which makes sense because i mean they had really just gone down for paper for ple's to cole and wade so it's easy enough to just slide him back in to that spot i guess the question then becomes though do we see him again after that or is it like no he's back for this one because it's in indy and it's only right i i i have no idea i won't spec i i'll speculate but i will speculate but it's based on yeah it's based on nothing i think it's i think i think it's a one-off for now i that's that's my prediction um that's what it feels like that's what it feels like it is a very interesting situation nobody seems to know exactly what happened with the mcafee of it all but yeah i think it's i think it's just for this but by the way pat is so busy and does so much i have kind of always felt that in the end it would land on he is a special event guy the week-to-week haul of doing wwe tv as like a side job in addition like it let's take it as someone who does a lot lot of jobs it's not the same as having like two radio shows in the same city it's the travel part the preparation part it's it's a bear even if you have a private jet even if you have all the things pat can have it's still just a bear so i mean yeah we're gonna have a lot of private jet right because then you gotta refuel it you gotta you gotta pay for all of that i don't think he's physically fueling the jet but no but i mean the bill is going somewhere i don't think he's physically paying to fuel the jet either but i'm saying even with the comfort of flying that way it still ends up taking a toll on you listen i would i'll never know yeah to me it seems quite easy to jump on a private jet but i imagine if you do it every week the travel still gets really hard just a lot of work i got i'm i'm not to change the subject i am watching match of the week i watched it on friday but i'm i'm i'm reliving it right now to my left on my television in my beautiful home so just to reiterate though when you said not to change the subject you meant let's 100 % change the subject, which I'm good with, but go ahead.
19:10Drew McIntyre: Yeah, I figured he'd be good with it.
19:15Sammy Zane and Ray Phoenix had match of the week this week. There's no question. It's a reminder that Sammy Zane is still one of the best wrestlers in the world, one of the best in-ring technicians, and has some of the best in-ring IQ of anyone in wrestling. And he does it with arguably somebody who is the best, like you know as far as in-ring wrestlers top five on earth ray phoenix why are we forgetting about ray phoenix why is ray phoenix an afterthought right now the man is an insane wrestler one of the best there is i think it is time at this point to move him together with penta and have them just dominate the tag division i think it's i i'm i'm i'm not pented out i i love penta we love penta you mean we love penta but you've had enough yes i think it is now time to have these two become you know the dominant tag team in the division and and really challenge for the
20:17Drew McIntyre: well there was that thing early on of people wanting to keep them apart like hey hey let's not just go right to let's not just go right to penta and ray phoenix being together and i think They thought, oh, well, you know, it's almost like a waste. But I think what people forget is there's so much talent right now in that locker room that sometimes I think there's strength in numbers. And if you're separate, you're both they can both end up in sort of less significant spots, whereas together they naturally gain power. So, like, I don't know. I hear what people were saying. I think you're better off not fighting it also.
20:57Drew McIntyre: and like, let's get them together and let it be mage. I think you're more like, if you want them to be mage, just because of the landscape of talent, I think they're more likely to be mage together. SGG, you agree or disagree? I sort of disagree. I think that by them being mage, they are huge right now as single stars. I think Penta... Ray Phoenix is not huge as a single star. I think Penta's more huge than Ray Phoenix, but I think Ray Phoenix is huge. huge huge yeah how is he huge what when was his last he has a great he has a great look when was his last match i don't think he i don't know if he had a first ple match but but thing is so that would probably counter the huge thing well no he was on his way though because they had him with andrade and it looked like they were definitely going to pick up the tag division on smackdown and win those titles it felt like to me now with the news of andrade they potentially depart in WWE.
21:56Is it potential? I thought he was gone. I didn't see anything from WWE that made it official, but he has moved to the alumni section, so he might be gone. That sounds official. That feels official. Without a press release, though, it could be, I don't know how much of that is, they playing me. That's true. Now every time someone leaves, it's going to be a work. It's possible. It's possible without a press release. But yeah, I feel like that threw a monkey wrench in Ray Phoenix, but it didn't. I don't think it slowed him down any, as we saw with the match with Sami Zayn. Like, you can put him in that spot and he can get to where Penta is.
22:29And I think that once they are huge single stars, then you put them together and they immediately light up the division. Whereas if you put them together right away, they risk becoming what MCMG became. And there's like an initial shot in the arm for the division. And then they're just another tag team, unfortunately. And I'm talking about guys who won the tag titles. That's a risk. it's a risk it's a risk but they're not just another tag team craig that's this is the lucha bros they're mage of the highest level yeah that's yeah you could have said that about you could have said that about um mcmg too that this is not just another tag team in fact they said it right what is that again sorry motor city machine guns but oh but that's my point though right they're so
23:12Drew McIntyre: big they're so big that you don't even know what their nickname is i didn't know either i didn't even forgot what the hell is it mcmg ain't the first of all i've never called them that the I've never heard that before. The Motor City Machine Guns are not the Lucha. They're not the Lucha Bros. No, they're not. See what I mean? But that's the risk right here. That's the risk. Strength in numbers. I feel the same way about the Kabukis.
23:36I struggle. Them together as a team, I think, is much more interesting than them together as singles performers at the moment. When they came back together a couple of weeks ago, I was like, oh, this is awesome.
23:53Drew McIntyre: Dip and I are in lockstep. I'm sorry. SGG lost me at the point of Ray Phoenix is huge. I think that everyone who's involved in these, the problem with the mid card is it's just very easy in this current mid card to be lost. It's just the way it is. It is so stacked. You know, we talked about this recently. Not everyone who shows up here is going to be AJ Lee. Most are not. It's just the nature of the beast. Go ahead. You almost said it and I want to Before I speculate I want to see if You are going to stand on this are you saying that If you're in the midcard you can't be huge or Is it like does the midcard separate Between you're in the midcard And you're huge or you're in the midcard and you're Under I'm saying there are only a couple people Who live in the midcard And are also simultaneously Big Like I would say Dominic lives In the midcard basically but he's Big Sammy Zane.
24:49Drew McIntyre: Sammy Zane. They both are this teetering where, yeah, they're mid-card. Penta a little below them, but yes. Penta below. Yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right. Huge was not the right term for Railway Phoenix right now. Penta, you know what Penta is right now? I'm not saying he won't be this. What is Penta? Penta is, if we were still having house shows, Penta would be like gigantic house show pop. all the kids go crazy great match but when it comes to the meaningful tv it's more like fun tv not meaningful tv that's like that's the place that a lot of these mid-card baby faces to me end up living so i i to go all the way back to it i don't i don't hate your take i know there are people who hate on it but i think lucha bros coming together would actually make them a bigger thing it would be a good shot in the arm for the tag division yeah because the penta thing is now we've seen it.
25:43We love the entrance. We love the gear.
25:47Drew McIntyre: We've seen it. We've seen what we've seen, and now it's time to move on. Unless he's selling so much merch that with this current state, that's a different story. But I don't know. Is he? I don't know. I like Penta. I'm a big Penta guy. I know that. No one's doubting it. No one's doubting that you've got love for Penta. Alright, SGG, so we asked a question earlier. And by the way, guys, if you're listening to us live now on pro wrestling nation 24 7 we appreciate you very much do remember you can subscribe to the cheap heat live podcast wherever you find podcasts and don't forget also to go search us on instagram man we've been putting up a ton of instagram content every single day emilio is hard at work getting those posts up so we would love to have you follow us on um on instagram cheap heat pod on instagram get down with the conversation we'd love to have you there but sg we teased before the break if you're aew and you're like hey because basically the message i got was i got a couple of emails from annoyed wwe fans who are bummed about the saudi trip uh the saudi mania because number one they either go to mania every year and it doesn't feel realistic to them or you know they felt like oh we thought i was going to new orleans blah blah blah so someone suggested an opportunity for tony con to counter program and say hey there's an open season for a massive stadium tour where the wrestling world for a weekend can focus on that um you said sgg there was an obvious answer of where to go would be and i'm curious to where you land i i can and i'll see if it's the same one that i said i assumed first on the on the podcast or the Patreon?
27:29Las Vegas, Nevada. Oh. Las Vegas, Nevada is the obvious answer. Why? Why? Because WWE just did WrestleMania from Vegas this year. They're going back next year, 2026. 2027, they're going to Saudi. But they already primed Vegas for like, this is the big wrestling weekend of the year. WWE already did that setup and they're leaving that void open. Not just at the timing stateside, but Las Vegas is going to be ready for it. They would have done two manias. They could handle AEW and the other indies coming in and doing a stateside super show in Vegas because WWE already set that up. And then if you think about the essence of AEW, right, when they first started with that all in, even before AEW, it was them and Rig of Honor, which they now own and new Japan and a bunch of other indies that put on that super show that became AEW.
28:24So they could give a show of that feel, not necessarily Forbidden Door, but something that's more true to the essence of the original all-in from Vegas. And then it allows them to also lean in to those Vegas themes that have become their staple. The Casino Battle Royal, these chips, that like all the Vegas iconography has really been a WWE iconography.
28:49Drew McIntyre: Let me push back, though. at the same time it's a place that a lot of wrestling fans will have gone for two years in a row for a big trip and there could be people like i'm just vaguest out my assumption was just based on what they seem to do in general was chicago because they seem to always go run chicago um although if i were them i think maybe the place to go is somewhere in texas one of those places that we know is really good for these things um what did they already do that no they didn't do dallas they did houston i think they did houston who knows you went dip you went it was it was just like six months ago yeah it was in arlington it was at the ranger stadium okay so so it is dallas so they already did that you but you said the setup was really good right yeah it was freaking amazing that event it was in the electric and the stadium was huge and awesome and that was the arlington stadium that wasn't the football stadium I could see Tony Khan by the way, Tony Khan owner of the Jaguars having a little conversation with Jerry getting himself a nice deal and trying to get over to Jerry World but I think it would be that feels too ambitious it'd be very ambitious yeah, it'd be very ambitious WWE worked that number, what they say like 180 ,000 people, it wasn't 180 but it was like, it was like close to 100 though, right?
30:14Yeah, they did
30:15Drew McIntyre: I think they went over a low hundreds. They went low hundreds. It was insane. So that's a huge number. Real quick, guys. Again, Drew McIntyre coming up here next hour. Very excited. But a lot happened on wrestling programming this week as we head to the Palooza, which includes the Palooza, bro, which of course includes this guy, John Cena. He's going to have a match against Brock Lesnar. He had his, I can't believe it. He already had his last, he already had his last raw appearance. It happened. The dates have gone that fast. Here's John. Yes. Hold on. Let me go to John again. John. John, trying to talk to you here.
31:00Drew McIntyre: All right, there he is. John. I could. Will I back down? Will I give up? Hell no. We will take the fight to the beast because that is what we do. He's taking the fight to the beast. Listen to the energy broadcast Saturday at Wrestlepalooza in a history-making event broadcast for the first time on ESPN. Do you guys know that? It was going to be on ESPN this weekend? Yeah. Is this pay-per-view going to be with ESPN? This one? It is. This is the first one. It's a PLA. First PLE on ESPN is this. It's tomorrow. Right. Yep. Beast squares off against the last real champion.
31:52Drew McIntyre: It is a final showdown of two generational Titans. Just so you guys know. I don't give a damn. Yeah. I mean, you're quoting him. How many suplexes are in your city? I founded Suplex City and taken your best shot for over 20 years, and I'm still standing. Just like that guy's sign says, my George is stronger than your jeans. It's Saturday. I'm ready for war, baby. You want some? Go on, get some. He's going to fight him. They're going to fight the match. So you're talking about, you want to talk about like standard issue, classic Cena. That is, and this will be an interesting test to me, by the way.
32:42Because people have been so high on the Cena matches since he turned babyface.
32:49Drew McIntyre: It's like all of a sudden, okay, we didn't love how the heel turn ended, but we love this version of John Cena. But now, SUG, we got fully into it the way that ended. We're fully there. Like it's just good old boy, John. And I'm just curious to see how this match plays out. And I want you guys, I want your predictions on this match. Because I think this is not a completely straightforward call to me on what happens between John Cena and Brock Lesnar and what kind of match they have. Because frankly, if you guys remember the history of Cena and Lesnar matches, they generally do not look like typical John Cena matches.
33:23I have two thoughts, two ideas of what I think could happen and have a result that people enjoy. One is that Lesnar destroys him and beats him to a pulp. And you, you know, you know, as a, as a, as a in storyline, you tell the people he can no longer, this was the end of his run. He has been, Brock Lesnar has destroyed him. All the, you know, the last few appearances that you thought you were going to get are no longer possible. and then you have him make some at the end his final match is some like triumphant return and he gets like it's the biggest pop ever it's the biggest pop of all okay you have there there's that's fun i don't hate that could be fun of course everything real quick though i want to
34:07Drew McIntyre: hear a second one real quick though of course all of those things are like ruined by the modern day version of wrestling because yeah everyone sees the dates and they know he's going to be in perth and there's no way he's going to cancel that i hear what you're saying like it could say you know he's not going to be there but like whatever there's he could still appear but he could be injured you're never going to see him wrestle again that was his last match i don't know something along those lines it's a it's a wishful thought it's never going to happen okay the second the second thought the second thought is that we use this i mean it's going to be hard for him to lose on the on the other on contrary to what i just said it's going to be hard for him to lose so perhaps somebody helps him win which sets up lesnar's next feud i mean john scene is going away Brock Lesnar is here to stay essentially for for as far as we know so we need you know maybe somebody costs Brock Lesnar this match and um and and it sets up whatever Brock Lesnar's next feud is but uh Cena ends up on top in some sort of schmazz that's how I see this going it's not gonna be a clean win for John Cena over Brock Lesnar no chance it will not be a clean John Cena win over Brock Lesnar no chance no I don't see that I think there's a chance he just cleanly beats him with the attitude adjustment yeah no way no way sir it'll be a couple of attitude adjustments but i think that will be the finishing move and he's gonna go over no way no you don't no way you're saying you're going with no way yeah i'm going with hey no way no chance in hell i don't know why you think that i definitely think there's a chance he just digs deep.
35:42Drew McIntyre: John Cena gave Brock some glorious wins back in the day. Got his ass beat by Brock on multiple occasions. I could see John being due to somehow score just an incredible miracle battle. They battle where at the end they even like show love to each other after the match like that kind of war I could see happening. I think you're wrong. I think we have not seen Gunther in quite some time. And I think we have Gunther cost Brock Lesnar the match against John Cena. Why would he do that? It's because everyone wants to see Gunther Brock Lesnar. But why would he get involved with John Cena's match with Brock Lesnar?
36:18Because he doesn't like Brock Lesnar. He doesn't. Well, he wants. He's picking a fight with him.
36:22Drew McIntyre: It's nothing to do with Cena. Well, he's like, yeah, your name's Brock Lesnar. Your name sounds German, but you're not a real German. I'm a real German kind of Austrian. I think they're going to set up Brock Lesnar versus Gunther for Survivor Series. Listen, what you're saying may be true, but how we get there, I'm with SGG I don't see how you're saying We'll get there I smell a Gunther running SGG SGG your prediction you think Cena clean I agree I think Cena clean I do think Though that after the match We get what dips predicting And that all right so Lesnar You're saying it can't destroy that's what I'm Saying then oh it destroys him and Gunther Comes to save him no no There's not gonna be no Gunther But that Lesnar puts Cena in a State where it's like okay Because they already said this is last SmackDown, but then he has all these other SmackDowns and Raws before the year is done.
37:18He done his last SmackDown and his last Raw. How is that possible? Because he gets wiped out and he physically cannot be at any of these shows. That's what I think happens.
37:32Drew McIntyre: um i i think cena wins um i am very interested to see what the match looks like and from a storytelling standpoint guys how are you telling stories to get to these matches when he doesn't appear on any tv to get there yeah that's the tough part what's he doing at crown jewel is he just gonna is he gonna fly to australia to walk out and be like hey guys play my music the people are gonna want to sing along with his music and let him get away with that but i or does like whatever happens at palooza it's just an instant rematch and we don't need to see him on tv we see brock on tv and it's announced that they have a rematch i think that's probably a likely scenario that that could happen so you guys remember that feel interesting though how they get there is going to be listen this part's going to be complicated this is going to be where people earn their money uh because yeah we're out of dates we're out of now you'll have that msg show two weeks before survivor series so you'll have a little bit to be able to build with there but that gap of perth in mid-october to raw in mid to late november that's a big gap to try to tell a story with john cena that's what makes his heel run so frustrating and it's like whoever's responsible i'm blaming the rock but i really have no idea because I'm here and not there, but I'm blaming The Rock.
38:53Unforgivable. Inexcusable. Like, you wasted everybody's time and threw away something that was like, had a lot of meat on the bone paws. It was so interesting. And we ended up with, you know, what we got, which...
39:10Drew McIntyre: I know. It's the hard part. We ended up with these matches that are great. I've said this many times now. the result has been now we're all loving john's current matches because we missed it but that doesn't change the fact that there were dates that you're just like that was that date that was all right yeah so so i did this patreon episode this week someone said they had a suggestion in the mailbag about we we had the conversation last week what could happen at the saudi wrestlemania that we're not thinking of that would be epic. And between his email suggestion of who it was and me thinking about, I then added the opponent.
39:51Drew McIntyre: If you really want to go crazy, guys, if we got the final boss, which there are rumors that he will end up on that show, what if we were to get the final boss and then you got this?
40:06Yeah.
40:11Drew McIntyre: I mean, we didn't mention Batista, guys. Would the people go crazy for Batista? That's a good question. I would. They go crazy for every legend in Saudi Arabia. So that's one. It's a layup. And also, I just didn't think the Batista ending that we got felt like the real ending, did it? I don't feel like it ended. I would love to see it. But it was a very wrestling ending, right? He lost to the guy that he had beat all the time, never came back. And then even with the Hall of Fame, right? He was supposed to go in, but he never came back. Granted, that's the pandemic. He's definitely one of my guys.
40:51Drew McIntyre: Batista's one of your guys. Yeah. Really? Put Flair out there. Saudi. Oh, which with Batista? Yeah. He had like a full evolution reunion. That would be Mage. That would be Mage, actually. You know what? Guys, it's a really good point. Did we have a segment in the Batista? Did they do a full segment together with all of them? What do you mean? Like in this current era? Yeah, like when Batista came back. Was there a segment that involved all of them? No, it was just the three of them. It was H, Orton, and Batista. And Flair wasn't there. Flair was never included in any of the Evolution stuff that they did.
41:38Drew McIntyre: That would be, that's a fun, that's a, when you think about the things that you could do that are like really retro and feel good and everybody's still here to do it. Evolution would be a potentially really fun thing to do. What do you choose, SGG, if you have to choose between the Evolution theme song and I Walk Alone, where do you stand? Evolution. Me too. I love the Evolution theme song. I'm a gigantic fan of the Evolution theme song. So much so that when people talk about, like, evolution in a real sense, I actually pronounce it evolution. Yeah. They're like, well, what do you think about, you know, the idea of, like, you know, religion versus evolution?
42:23Drew McIntyre: I go, excuse me? What do you mean? Evolution. Exactly. I think it's pronounced evolution. evolution um there are other matches that we're going to have to get back to and talk about at at Wrestlepalooza because we only talked really about Cena and Lesnar we didn't spend one moment on the AJ Punk uh Becky Seth of it all which I think is worthy of some time as well I love that promo on Monday too everyone thinks this is such a very such a basic heel babyface situation I don't think it's as obvious as everyone thinks. I think there's more nuance here. Alright, so we'll talk to Drew McIntyre next, and we'll talk to you guys more.
43:07Drew McIntyre: It is Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Bubble Yum Bubblegum. Available in a blasting new three-flavor pack with wild cherry, grape, and regular. Bubble Yum keeps it popping. It is Cheap Heat Live. Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 on Peter Rosenberg. And tomorrow, as you well know by now, Wrestlepalooza, the first foray of WWE and ESPN together. And obviously, you could not have an event of this magnitude without my guest at this time. What would it even be? Would it even be a real WWE event if Drew McIntyre was not involved? And now he has a shot at the title that he so rightly deserves an opportunity at.
43:58Drew McIntyre: The title being held by Cody Rhodes. That man, like I said, Drew McIntyre. Drew, welcome to the show. How are you? Absolutely fabulous, buddy. Excited to get a world championship opportunity where I don't think Cody is anybody that might interfere in his behalf since every other title match I've had for the past, oh, going on five years I've been screwed out of. and it's on such a big a big platform such a big night we're in indie we're on espn wwe just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger as we move into the future the only thing that's stayed the freaking same as the champions was time to get cody out and mcintyre does does that ever surprise you that like this thing just kind of continues to grow and do you ever have sort of a pinch me moment that here we are having this moment and you're a part of it because this whole thing could have went a different way where wwe was still growing and going all these places and you were god knows where in japan doing indies it must feel good to be such a an integral part of everything that's happening yeah 100 especially this part of my my life and my career um i feel like i'm in my prime but i felt like i was in my prime for the past 10 years and then things keep evolving and evolving.
45:13Drew McIntyre: I'm not prime now, I'm in my prime now, but the world we live in, in sports, if you take care of yourself and how my body feels, but specifically how my mind feels, I really do feel like I'm in my prime now and so excited that I'm part of it all. Because as you mentioned, I was gone from WWE for a few years and coming back, I was a lot uncertain until I had a conversation with Triple H on the phone and knew it was time to return. But without that conversation who knows what I'd be doing right now who knows uh in fact I'm not even going to go into any more details I'm back that's all that matters right now I'm part of it I came here 2007 to WWE 22 years old and I thought I can't get any bigger than this there's no freaking way and as the years passed I just watch it grow and grow and I saw the network come in I thought okay well it's taking a little downward turn but while looking at this content out there if I was a fan I'd be blown away by this maybe people will catch on eventually and people did catch on and the product kept growing then obviously we moved to peacock then there's netflix there's all these giant tv deals and now freaking espn nick can does it again the billion dollar man striking left and right and wwe growing to the point where i can't walk down the street now without people not saying you're a giant man what do you do they go you're drew mcintyre from the wwe they're certainly gonna know my name after tomorrow that must that must be a really interesting change though like let's stay there for a second because all of you guys you know who are on the big side you know the guys who are like six three and up super jacked yeah you have to always get stopped yeah exactly exactly so like you guys the biggest guys of the company ever i know you've always been stopped and but but yeah it's what do you do at some points right and i'm sure you still get the occasional hey what do you do but was there a period when you felt it change what was that point when it changed from, oh my God, he's big to, oh my God, I think that's Drew McIntyre.
47:08Drew McIntyre: When was that? I mean, certainly periodically when I was younger, the WWE has always been so gigantic and global and different countries and different states, um, where people, you know, would recognize me would be WWE would be wrestling fans for New York ever since I was like 22. Um, there'd be people left and right recognize me as, you know, WWE is so big there, but most of the time you know in airports and the likes i'm 6 '5 280 i can slide away with a hoodie on with a hat on and most of the time people kind of give me a second look or a guy will nudge me and goes hey man what are you bench or you play play football i'm like what real football you kept your feet or american football it's like i'm scottish so i do the wrestling pal but um ever since i guess the pandemic and coming back and i've noticed that more and more but really in these past two years the difference has been incredible.
48:00Drew McIntyre: My wife especially has noticed the difference that we can't go to dinner anymore without people noticing. Wrestling just caught fire somewhere along the line. We had so many superstars just hitting their stride at the same time. If you look back to 2019, 2020, you could name on five fingers who the company was based around. Some of us had maybe six, seven segments of show, especially when I was champion. Now, we have such an abundance of talent. I feel like I get more time off than ever. We can do that because we have so much talent, so much talent is caught on with the public and wrestling is caught on with the public and wrestling is part of culture again.
48:34Drew McIntyre: It's cool again. And I don't know what to put it down specifically aside our superstars really catching on, but the giant platforms like the Netflix and now ESPN and putting us right in people's faces, but not just in their faces, in their faces with a product that people latch onto and want to keep watching. And we're nonstop. We're every single week, we're there for you. Not just live, you know, the night we're on, but on these streaming platforms. the next night, the next night, whenever you're able to watch us. And now everybody knows my face because I'm right in your face every single week on every single platform.
49:04Drew McIntyre: And also very often in the championship picture, as you are again with Cody tomorrow at Wrestlepalooza. Now, when we talk about mainstream and the build of wrestling, maybe there's no name bigger than The Rock. And when you re-signed your deal, I don't think I've talked to you about this since it happened, The Rock, a video came out of you at dinner, and The Rock gifting you this sword. Can you tell me a little bit about your relationship with The Rock and how that sort of came to be? I know on the outside it might look obvious like, oh, well, they're both wrestlers. Okay, but yeah, but The Rock doesn't gift every single person who gets a contract at WWE with something like that.
49:44Drew McIntyre: So how did that relationship come to be? And tell me about that night. I mean, that's another thing that's just so surreal to me. And we're developing relationships with people that I admire so much when I was younger as a fan. But then as I became a performer, I'm admiring certain people even more because I get to know about their work ethic and their drive and what makes them tick. I think I want to be like that person. I'd love to learn from that person. And you meet certain people that you click with that really see something in you and really believe in you. And that's The Rock. That's one of those people for me.
50:15Drew McIntyre: When I met him for the first time, he was returning to WWE. I couldn't tell you what year it was exactly, but I remember running the steps in the stadium. And I was younger. I wasn't doing anything at the time. I was just passing by and kind of gave him like a sheepish wave that I wanted to interrupt his workout. And he stopped. He walked right down. He looked me in the eye. He chatted to me and made it clear he knew who I was and saw something in me. And I thought he was just being very nice because he was a very nice guy. And I was, wow, the rock's really cool. You know, he pretended he knew me.
50:42Drew McIntyre: But he seemed to actually know a couple of facts about me, but no way. And I remember meeting his business partner, ex-wife Danny, on a plane one time. And she reiterated like, hey, you know, he's a big fan of yours. as we both are, basically see something in you, which again kind of blew my mind. You fast forward to certain moments in my career, there's a clip that was on TMZ with the rock coming out of a building, one of his many appearances one time, and he was asked, who do you see as the future kind of superstar? I was doing nothing of relevance at the time, would suggest this is the next guy.
51:14Drew McIntyre: And he said, Drew McIntyre, which really was the boost I needed at that time. I was working hard, but things weren't quite happening for me to get to that next level. when I was like, wow, okay, if rock believes in me, you know, that's the kick in the butt I need. I'm going to keep pushing. I'm going to keep giving it my all. No stone unturned. And at moments like that, one after another after another, I am until we got to the point I re-signed. And, you know, I got my sword here in the background and I got a very cool personal note that nobody will ever know what it says. But that was incredible.
51:43Drew McIntyre: And it's led to working with him professionally on Project Rock, being the face of Project Rock and who knows what the future may hold there. but it is very surreal you know we get triple h leading creative right now someone i admired so much you got the rock and working with him on the side and young drew is excited but older grizzled very very grizzled business drew is very excited too um what a what a cool thing like and is he always the guy that he seems to be because i mean it just seems like whether it's on tv or whether you see him walking around backstage. Like, you know, I don't know the man well, but every time I've ever seen him, he's only in a good space and positive and friendly.
52:31Drew McIntyre: Have you ever seen anything different from the guy? It almost seems crazy that someone can be so good and on all the time. Yeah, you would think this has to be an act, but it's not. I mean, I think it requires so much energy if it wasn't to be that positive and that driven all the time. It's just who he is. Certain people are just wired a certain way where they're just constantly positive. They're appreciative. I believe it's his journey. I've been knocked down so many times. I'm similar in a lot of ways, but maybe not as positive. I should be perhaps considering I've been knocked down so much and pick myself up and keep pushing forward.
53:04Drew McIntyre: And I think he sees a lot of himself in me in that regard, how much I've had to overcome and keep pushing and achieving. But yeah, certain guys just wired that way. you made a DDP, the Diamond Dallas page, and you think nobody on this planet of Earth could be that positive, and he is, and it's 24-7. And he swears more than me. Like, I'm Scottish, it's hard not to swear, especially in these interviews. We use swears for punctuation in Scotland, but he is the most positive man on the planet. And again, these guys that rock in Dallas and so many others, they're just wired that way, and they're so grateful for life and every single day they wake up.
53:39Drew McIntyre: Who was the bigger curmudgeon working week to week, you or CM Punk? it's an actual piece of crap he wakes up and thinks how can i make people's day miserable today especially my own because we added just a little bit of positivity in his life and appreciation for what he's got especially today and maybe freaking smile once or twice you know backstage whatever i see it from a distance now because i don't want to get close to him or punch his stupid face and the guy just looks constantly miserable he's not slept in three weeks i've actually not slept i've had a really busy week he looks like he's not slept for 10 years because he doesn't.
54:14Drew McIntyre: He just sits miserable thinking, how can I make everyone's life around me miserable? So you're not taking a moment to celebrate his family being reunited together on the road? I celebrate the fact that karma got him when he got cashed in on and he lost the title quicker than I did at WrestleMania. Five minutes and 46 seconds over here because of CM Punk. One of the many times I was screwed up WWE Championship. At WrestleMania, no less the World Championship. I presented it to my wife as such a big part of my journey. Hugged my brother. told Punk I'm going to rub that title in your face because you deserve it and he freaking deserves it and I did and then he attacked me from behind bashed me in the head with a stupid cast from his little weak tricep that keeps tearing and then I got cashed in on and karma came and got him and karma's come back around because I've been positive I've worked hard I've done my time I paid my dues 25 years and what's happened timing has came to Drew McIntyre right on ESPN right at Wrestlepalooza, my WWE Championship match, where I genuinely believe for the first time ever in five years, somebody's not going to interfere in my damn match, and I'm going to get the title that I don't deserve, that I've earned.
55:20Drew McIntyre: Yes, it is going to be Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre one-on-one at Wrestlepalooza. Very excited for this match and for this opportunity. You also spent, you had a nice fun run with Damian Priest. What was working with Priest like week to week? You guys had some big matches, had a street fight. There was a lot of stuff between the two of you. Tell me a little bit about working with Priest. Yeah, physical. Very physical. You know, I'm always honest all the time. That's my thing, Drew McIntyre. I tell the truth, whether you like it or not, and that's what you're going to get with me as a champion.
55:56Drew McIntyre: Not safe Cody Rhodes saying what you want to hear, not what you need to hear. I'm going to bring honesty every single week, whether you like it or not. So Priest is someone that belongs to WWE, belongs on our roster. Big, physical, stands out wherever he goes. loves this industry but unfortunately during that time i didn't want to be doing anything but fighting for the title i felt like again when i say i feel like it's not it's not feelings it's evidence but people don't like to look at evidence if you watch every moment over the past few years everything i said is true you can see i can complain and whine and i'm disillusioned but i'm not i got screwed i got screwed i got screwed and then finally my last chance saloon at royal rumble i didn't get screwed by priest necessarily but my back was turning through me at the rumble Cool.
56:34Drew McIntyre: Name of the game. The Elimination Chamber, the night before, you know, Cena's glorious heel turn. I told the world this is what he's really like. You know, I've watched him backstage for years. He's a horrible human being. I won that match with him before he retires. So I don't know if I won the list. I'd want to be on that list. At least get me on that microphone with him. He's the absolute master. Master on that microphone. I want to prove I can go with him and take him down as well. But I said what kind of person he was the night before. I claim ordom. I was going to pin him in Elimination Chamber.
57:02Drew McIntyre: and who was there from behind, sneaked that role up, Damian Priest, he took away my last chance to get to WrestleMania to fight for the world title. So I beat his arse at WrestleMania in front of his own mother, in front of his own family. And what happens? He doesn't move on. He's such a bad loser. He can't let it go. He kept attacking me every single week. So I got in a cage. I tried to cave my skull in and I didn't attack him afterwards. People, why wouldn't you do that, Drew? I was like, because he's such a terrible loser. If I go after him again, what does that achieve? Nothing. It makes him happy.
57:26Drew McIntyre: It doesn't make me happy. I've got bigger goals in this industry, which is getting the title. So I stayed the course. I stayed focused. I didn't let my Scottish temper, let's say, my anger get the best of me. And where are we now? We're back in the title picture. We're laser focused. We're positive. Not quite Rock and Dallas positive, but I'm positive. I like this version of you. I didn't expect this. Now, you mentioned Cena. If you were to beat Cody Rhodes tomorrow and take the title at Wrestlepalooza, would you be interested in maybe posing the opportunity for Cena to take you on before this thing ends?
58:00Drew McIntyre: Absolutely. The John Cena we're seeing right now, that's the scene I wanted to see. Again, I've said some horrible things I never thought I'd say about him over these past seven, eight months or whatever, and I genuinely meant it. I was like, this is not the scene I want to see. This is not the scene I want to fight. I want Cody Rhodes. He's the best we've got in ring right now, and I still believe that. But once I beat him, I'm the best. Once I beat Cody at Wrestlepalooza, and I want this John Cena, he's been killing it. This is the – if he's going out, he's going out in a blaze of glory right now these last couple of matches.
58:27Drew McIntyre: Super Cena is back. I want to take down super duper I know another word for Cody but he's super duper Cody he's beyond super Cena right now I want to take down super duper Cody first and then I want to take down super Cena and I want to get that chance with him to prove that I deserve to be on top because he's still as he's proven right now one of the best in the game well yeah one thing I've talked about on the show this week is I I didn't understand exactly everything that played out with John like how we got out of where we were it felt a little arbitrary but the result that we landed on which was missing Super Cena.
59:00Drew McIntyre: You know, like those matches that he had, like you mentioned early on, were like such clunkers that by the time we got to this version, it's like, Drew, it feels like every time you see him, it's like we've never seen it before. Like I, you know, I am among the adult fans who towards the end of Cena's run was like, okay, I've seen it all. We've seen it, we've seen it. And now I feel like, oh my God, I can't believe we're losing this. So however they got there, It did land in a place, I feel like, where this version of John that we're seeing week to week is absolutely awesome. Yeah, I feel the same-ish.
59:33Drew McIntyre: Aside losing all that time that I was like, I want one of those matches. I want that opportunity on the microphone with him. This is how I prove that I belong exactly where I tell everybody I belong, and I know I belong to the top of this industry. So we're tour-to-tour with that man. So you saw that time, you saw that time, the Blacktron, the coming out and staring blankly. you saw that as a wasted opportunity where that could have been him going back and forth with someone like a drew mcintyre yeah call it selfish all you want i just know and i talk so much trash during the time because i know what he's capable of and it was so much more and we're seeing it right now so yeah if i don't know if yes no i don't think it was deliberate i know it wasn't deliberate to walk in a two four cena i seen a two threes a lot of people's nine ten but i just know how good he has what he's capable of and i ran my mouth of talk trash because it was just quite frankly pissing me off watching it because i know how good he is now we're seeing how good he is but what pisses me off now is it's at the finish line and i might not get that opportunity so i need that title i need to dangle that car or something in front of him it's gonna make him pay attention and go all right maybe i'll go over here and i'll i'll show drew what's up i'll tear him to shreds and i want him to because i want to be able to prove to the world i can stand him on two feet with everybody just like i did with punk when he was going to tear me to shreds on the mic and absolutely eviscerated him to the point he was begging for his other tricep to get torn so he stop shredding them in the microphone and the internet then the ring and i only lost him because i bled out not because he beat me last question for drew mcintyre uh before wrestle palooza tomorrow one-on-one versus cody rhodes for the title um what what is something at this stage though you are a vet now you've done it all you've had the titles um you've you i mean listen you you you tossed brock lesnar over the top at the rumble there's not a thing you haven't done um what could you still work on what do you still want to get better at at this stage in your career what I want is pretty simple I want my championship run with people in the building it's been five years I had the title for over 300 days everybody's moved on and that's fine you don't want to think about the tough times the bad times the scary times we know what we know now of the pandemic I've not forgot because all I've wanted is that title back for years and every single time and just look at all the evidence.
1:01:47Drew McIntyre: I've been cheated. I was screwed out of it. Some kind of outside reasons prevented me from getting the hands on the title. The one thing is I wanted it as a kid. And the funny thing is recently when I had the title in my hands after I put Cody's stupid head and stupid tattoo through that table, I looked at the title and I thought, wow, I used to look at this. And I thought this is what I wanted when I was a kid. And this is the thing I used to look at and say, I represent the locker room, the fans, management, everyone working for this company backstage, and I'm going to do the best job I can.
1:02:14Drew McIntyre: I didn't feel that this time. it used to be about giving and giving and sacrificing and sacrificing and after i gave and gave and the people turned on me and chose cm punk a genuinely horrible person i still gave then i bled out for everybody hell in the cell and it was brutal hell in the cell match of all time i didn't jump off the top but i almost bled up and then when i was out for those three months i was like wow nobody's contacting me nobody's calling me could it be a lie are we not a big happy family are we not brothers and sisters has everybody has everybody moved on because my real brother in Scotland, John, went stabbing the back to take my spot.
1:02:46Drew McIntyre: It became apparent to me, not just with the roster, see me as a threat, see it as, oh yes, one of our biggest threats is gone, but the fans moved on and it's not their fault. We're 52 weeks a year. We have all this content in WWE right now. If you're Drew McIntyre, The Rock, Stone Cold, it doesn't matter. If you're not right in front of their face, they ain't thinking about you. And I realized I got to get what's mine before I get out. I can't have any regrets. So I don't fight for everybody anymore. a fight for me, a fight for my family. This title one is going to be for me, and I'm going to go out and do what I do every week.
1:03:16Drew McIntyre: I'm going to be brutally honest. People are going to not like it. It's not going to be like Cody when he comes out, and he's got a big smile, and he makes you feel comfortable, and he's a phenomenal champion. Same vein as Cena. He'll bring a smile to your face when he walks out there. That ain't going to happen with me. I ain't just going to say what you want to hear. I will say what you need to hear. I will give the tough truths. I will make you feel really uncomfortable when I wrestle because I'm incredibly dangerous, and I beat ass for real when I'm out there and it's going to be a whole different feeling with Drew McIntyre's.
1:03:42Drew McIntyre: I think it works perfect with ESPN, to be honest. Well, so the moment will then be tomorrow. The opportunity is there for you to be that champion and carry that title in front of not only a crowd in the building, but an incredible crowd watching on ESPN as well at Wrestlepalooza. Drew, thank you for making time here on G.P. Live. I appreciate it. Thank you, brother. More G.P. next. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Marvel Comics number one tough guy, the Punisher, explodes onto Game Boy in the ultimate payback, nonstop shoot-em-up arcade action, and a special appearance by Spider-Man from Acclaim.
1:04:16Drew McIntyre: Welcome back. Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. She, Pete, Live, our SGG and Dipper back. Thank you, guys. I'm sorry I didn't have room for you both with Drew McIntyre. He's too big. That's fine. It's fine. You sure? I was talking to Reba on the other line. I'm meeting up with Joey later. And by the way, remember, Drew's not a big dip fan. I know. SGG, do you remember this? I do remember this. Did he roll up on you backstage and say something about one of your hosts? He did, and I was like, I think he'll be here later. And you met him. You saw him after, right? Aren't you glad that when people roll up on you backstage, it's not both of your hosts that they're upset about?
1:04:58You get good notes on me.
1:05:01Drew McIntyre: By the way, it's a really great point by SGG. He's only gotten good notes. Dip has now beefed with Drew. LA Knight. By the way, meanwhile, this guy spends all his time worrying about making sure he says we don't say anything that's out of bounds. Let's make sure. And then he somehow walks himself into his own beef with people. I mean, it makes no sense. There's no one that looks like a... Dip his HR. He makes sure that we stay in line and that he... But himself, he walks right into his own problem. Am I forgetting anyone besides Drew and LA Knight? Is that your only problems you've had? Those are the only beefs I've had, yeah.
1:05:35Drew McIntyre: All right, all right. So far. by the way drew is talk about a frigging giant and he he said he said a couple of funny things i would number one if you guys heard the part when i said you know i said i said and for people like who are the really you know big guys in the in the locker room and he was like you know all three of us because you know there really aren't many on that i mean who is it's it's brock drew randy yeah who are giant i mean giant like cena's big la night they're all big shorter than the other three though if i'm not and so is la night but they're but those guys are both jacked up for sure but they're not like the three i just mentioned is anyone else all jacked guys i think it is brock drew randy is there anyone else on that level who's like gargantz yeah like who's current you see them you go oh my god yeah not many they're the most oh my god for sure you know he's not as jacked but he is pretty big we he's such a great guy that we don't think of him that way but if out of nowhere you were walking on the street and and damien priest walked right next to you to go that's a large that's a very oh yeah he yeah he has a big if he was more jacked though he definitely be in that category oh wow so you should now now you want problems with no no i'm just come on man you're in a yankee hat yeah yeah oh shout out to lin manwell miranda for the yankee hat too by the way so lin miranda sent you the hamilton yankee he did now tell us the truth now tell us the truth tell us the truth so you commented on a post and said you needed the hat yeah i said i said more than that i said who do i need to seduce to get this hat and then lin hits you up direct and says give me an address i got you with the hat yeah exactly that now have you gotten to name drop this yet like has anyone seen it?
1:07:25Drew McIntyre: How many people have you gotten to tell like, yo, the hat's kind of fire, oh, by the way. I was telling people before I got the hat. Once I saw the message, I was like, yo, you're not going to believe this. I didn't tell a ton of people, but I told them all the time. You haven't gotten out yet. You haven't gone out yet wearing the hat. Well, no, and I'm not going to, too, because this one's signed. So this is going on display. And it's going to sit in a special place where it cannot be tainted by my sweaty repug. Please. Yeah. No, Greg, Greg commenting and asking where you can get that hat is the work of a first class schnur.
1:08:14Drew McIntyre: Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. SGG is I'm not saying he's highest level schnur. the number one schnur who i know his nickname at espn is the schnur really yeah we have a schnur there's a there's somebody who outwardly is called a schnur yeah that's a big insult k k k made up the nickname for him it's it's my boy mike browncher who i love and browncher's nickname is the schnur and he's snoring and snoring but it's it's not really fair he schnurs in regard to like food in the office so like if food shows up hello oh what's going on over here blue collar snoring yeah sgg is he's hitting the next level of like i want to get stuff now by the way the irony of k of michael k the great voice of the yankees the irony of him being that guy is that he is the biggest snur of all time the set he simultaneously here's what makes k a sicko he simultaneously hates on me when i schnur and then wants to ask me how i got what i got can he schnur it's it's psychotic because you both can't you can't both do it no but i've done it i've passed off the schnur to k because with k being a very famous guy and the yankee announcer those people are easier to schnur for right like if i have my own schnur relationship and then k asked for something i can say hey you yankee fan oh yeah well you know michael k is that oh michael k and then they it's an easier schnur that's that's the thing is it schnur if you reach a certain level yes isn't that doesn't just become a park there is there is no is a perk i'm sure donald trump is schnurring of someone everyone you could anyone his whole his whole career lots of snoring snoring from the highest society to the lowest everyone is capable of snoring on something so there's just a line where it's a perk and then if you're above the line it's a perk if you're below the line it's an insult no I think for everybody it's the same thing it's just that the rich and elite it's expected and it's part of how they stay rich is just the snoring you know eat sleep or repeat You know what I mean?
1:10:40Drew McIntyre: It's every, every, I've gotten, I've gotten K a bunch of things and then it'll kill me. The most historic example in the history of the, the K show. And we were together for almost 10 years was a couple of years ago. We all got invited to an Islanders game by the owner of the Islanders, John Ledecky. And the Islanders invited us to UBS arena. We love UBS. I'm a big fan. They treat us like gold. They invite us to the owner suite. They have us do our show there. it's a whole pr game they're very good at doing it all good then they say at the end hey you got to see our new store go go to the to the to the islander store we want to take you there the guy the gentleman walks us down there i'm spacing out his name right now because i'm a bad guy and he goes by the way anything you want in the store just whatever you want knock yourself out an invitation to schnor yeah dangerous thing to take which but also that but then i wouldn't take anything i would feel bad i'll be like i just want this small thing i got one i got one beautiful sweatshirt for natalie it's fire i got her one like really nice like probably 130 like nice sweatshirt and i was like this is really cool i got it they put it in a bag i took it michael k we i then left like slightly after k as i'm walking in the parking lot k sees me walking with my bag that has one sweatshirt in it your one bag with one thing in it one bag one thing in it okay that story has now been told for over two years of k saying that i walked out with shopping bags like on christmas day shopping i took everything from the store he is full of it and it's disgusting and it's wrong now what did he take did he take nothing i don't know if he anything but i said they offered i don't know why you didn't take anything they offered stuff now we we talked earlier about the aj punk becky seth thing this has been fascinating to watch because people are like just obviously over the moon about aj coming back she did an interview on sports center this week um what a time we live in by the way where the espn thing is so big that AJ Lee's first interview back was on SportsCenter.
1:13:00Drew McIntyre: That's what I said, but either way, everyone's super into it. Her fans are incredibly passionate. And now they're having... Light it up, Dip. It's light it up. That used to be a big gimmick on this show, by the way. For people who are new to Cheap Eat, and when I say new, I mean last five years, you don't remember when randomly in conversation for no reason I'd play this. it wasn't randomly i hated it it wasn't randomly a conversation no it wasn't what was it was not a conversation and also you just you just unlocked a a very deep cheap heat memory of me and my you know trying to speak on the mic i have a picture of me speaking and you with your finger over the button to play the song wait so why was i do it why was i cutting you off with it.
1:13:54I don't know. I remember that happening. This is you hazing. Oh, really? That's where it came from, because this is me with Shoemaker Days.
1:14:13Drew McIntyre: It is the least gangster sounding song in wrestling history, perhaps. I hate this song. It makes Kelly Kelly's holla sound like F the police. Okay. It is soft as it gets. Anyways, her fans are super, obviously, passionate and super stoked. Yeah. Welcome back, AJ Lee, by the way. And so, yeah, welcome back. It's a very exciting time. And so, of course, the dynamic is, you know, Becky and Seth are just these evil heels. You know, Becky is the greatest of all time. And it's not just me that says it. sports illustrated says it espn says it everybody's saying it i say it i love what i say it exactly and yeah that is hilarious he has a pic yo that picture is so funny is that is that video out or it's been taken down probably it's probably been taken down yeah our grantland videos are like gone but i don't have that shirt anymore either it didn't look good on me but it's a classic on the button yo that is so funny dip this picture do you send it to dip to dip look in the group i saw it i saw do you see my face my obnoxious face that i'm like laughing because i'm about to interrupt him anyways so the interesting thing to me sgg is that like obviously becky and seth are being presented as like the worst guys ever but like the things aj says and does and her attitude and then punk sitting there like arms folded like it's not as baby face-ish as it's supposed either it's supposed to be or as it's being received in my opinion what do you think she said she was gonna shank a chick which i don't believe she's ever done but she said she would rubble what number two i i did i did though i really enjoyed the trap that seth and becky set for them because seth i don't know if you realize this but he said the exact same thing that that cm punk said he said you know i would never put my hands on a lady but luckily i have someone who would he looked at becky and becky was like you can't be talking about me you got us into this like this is going way further than it was supposed to like i'm out of here and it was the perfectly laid trap for aj to be alone and she got taken out and then yeah what is punk gonna do because your wife is here because you're not gonna put your hands on becky lynch and now she's flat on her back looking up at the lights i loved i loved that setup as well i thought it was awesome um and yeah i just you know the the interesting thing is that Seth to me always has a certain air of baby face because he is the one who stayed and Punk is the one who left no matter how much you want to cut it to make Seth evil Punk is the one who left, Seth is the one who stayed, that's how the fans can view it always and furthermore the whole punk notion of his bitterness you know drew just said it in the interview sg and i was like you know i kind of can't believe how little it gets mentioned you're supposed to feel bad for punk having what happened to him happen at summer slam when he did the exact same thing to drew mcintyre yeah he oh no sorry except it wasn't even his title to take no he set up priest to win the title so how bad are we really supposed to feel for cm punk who really if turnabout is fair play he just got what was coming to him already yeah i don't think about that either i know he literally did the exact same thing also props to becky because i knew the second the first time i heard her say it's maybe three months ago now when she said i'm the best i'm the greatest women's wrestler of all time and it's not just me who says it sports illustrated says yeah i've seen everybody steal your take by the way that I, SGG, I said it the first time she said it.
1:18:40Yeah, on this show.
1:18:42Drew McIntyre: I went, I went, that is it. Yeah, I knew where she was going from the very beginning that she was playing into that Trump line because it's such a heelish thing to say of everybody's saying because when you say everybody's saying something, it's, it's, you're saying nothing. It's like, it's like a throwaway line. you could just say to be you know everyone's saying that sgg is looking horrible these days is that true who's saying that yeah probably now in her case she has a specific thing that she says sports illustrated so i'm guessing at some point someone for sports illustrated at some point probably said it but then she's made it this blanket statement like sports illustrated put out an issue and she was on the cover and it said becky lynch greatest risk women's wrestler right time right the whole it was a special edition where the whole magazine he's dedicated to her and it's 75 pages of just and i really think as you tell me what you think here i think some people have missed it you know there were some awkward moments in becky matches recently with lyra she's had a couple of spots outside on the table where she's like really goofily kind of taking these getting slammed into the table i think some people may be missing that that's all intentional that it's all part of her looking like like almost intentionally looking like a bit of a goofball because she is such a heel and I think it may be like I don't think it's I'm gonna do a bad job doing the spot but I think it's to make the spot look somewhat goofy I think there's a chance that's intentional I I honestly I agree with that I think that because right if she says i'm the greatest of all time and then she doesn't look goofy and every spot is perfect and she's super polished then with her being a heel she's actually making a legitimate case for it but her saying that she's the greatest of all time and then delegitimizing it by looking goofy it makes it even more heelish when she says it because it's like it creates a bigger gap between quote unquote the work and her words now i she could add me to that list though of people who say she's the greatest women's wrestler of all time um i think i think she's she's in the convo and actually someone someone said that uh barrington in our on our patreon he asked us the question female mount rushmore or female and then sakari jumped in and said female tears of mage exactly exactly i think a female tears of mage would be awesome and then far jumped in and said what about a tears of schlump we have we did mount schlump more we did about schlump more yeah but we've never done tears of schlump which i think we would be great now another another i was reading some messages before back to those messages on the patreon uh clk x88 says who's someone cooking down and evolve that we either haven't seen yet or haven't seen enough of that's a really good question who would i say is dope that you haven't seen enough of yet that that excludes my guys vanity project because they're all over the evolve they're all they're all over it um you know you know who i think has a lot of potential and he has gotten some tv time for sure but i think has the potential to be really big in a funny way i'm not saying he's going to win a world championship but really could have a great run it's gal oh it's it's gal is really funny like really good comedic chops and his his one-liners that he has did you see when he put me on the stud-o-meter yeah i did i'm sorry he the way he insults people is hilarious i i have i have i think it's gal has a lot of potential so shout out to it's gal um you know who went down to evolve and i started to like like yo i like this guy more um i think it's idris and elfe oh yeah yeah yeah he's he did something that we said we'd never seen before and i i really don't think i have with the a few weeks back with the turnbuckle spot yeah like he took it he used his entrance to take off the turnbuckle and then like it was just exposed for the match Evolve, I'm sorry Idris, you know obviously people have seen him before but he has some big time, big heel potential that's where the sweet spot is for me for Idris I think he could be great in that role I think you're going to see more, I think Sam Holloway is incredibly talented for a huge guy, you want to talk about a big guy who's interesting and can do a lot Sam Holloway and then of course listen kids are going to love when people get a real eye on Cappuccino Jones and Jack Cartwheel obviously those guys just jump off the page literally exactly that's right Harley Riggins and Jax Presley I think are also super duper talented you're going to see more of them so yeah there's a lot there's a lot of people to see and then a follow up question that I see here which is interesting someone asked they said hey if Booker T and Vic Joseph can fill in on an episode of Smackdown does that mean we can get some Rosenberg or Stone on NXT one day I hope I hope that would be the goal but hey for today let's focus on what's coming up 3 o 'clock on ESPN 2 the Wrestlepalooza special make sure you tune in we hope you enjoy it SGG we'll do this again in a few days enjoy Wrestlepalooza stay mage this weekend take it easy man we appreciate you guys every 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