Farting in First Class

0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy.

0:09The Majors League. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The King of Kings. 24 seconds. Stick it down. I'm even pretend. Confirm. Not Majors League. Stay Majors League and enjoy yourself.

0:27it's cheap heat with peter rosenberg featuring stat guy greg and dip oh you bet your ace that's exactly what it is it's cheap heat live pro wrestling nation 24 7 on this october 17th weekend i'm coming to you from the wwe performance center down here in orlando florida coming to you from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It's the physically large stack guy, Greg. SGG, what the hell's going on? That's a made setup they got you in there, I gotta say. Well, this is the same. This is like the setup for whenever you see NXT talent doing interviews or you see Shawn Michaels doing an interview or something.

1:10This is the room everybody's in. This is where Bully Ray will do Busted Open from here. So they got like a little radio room of sorts. Now, unfortunately, it is unfortunate that when I just got here and got out of the elevator I 100 % walked into and ruined a promo segment being shot for Evolve but these are the unfortunate things about the tight quarters we have but we're doing the best we can SGG that's all I can do everything else is out of your control control the controllable as the soon to be retiring John Cena would say well you know what it's a it's a very it's the accurate statement from statement from cena it's it's a man who understands oh look like right here i just i'm trying to sign into stream yard and it said display name and the display name listed is jc jane no that's not that's not who this is let me see i'm entering hold on sug i'm entering the stream yard i'm in the yard you see me i see you does but does that mean we can get jc jane is she nearby is that what that means you know what it's a great point by you like why not right anyways we are here now though and happy to be here and happy to be back safely from australia and i'm going to save all the big time travel talk for when dipperstein joins us an hour two it would i'd be remiss to do that without dipperstein Wouldn't you agree?

2:38I agree. It wouldn't be the right way to operate. Now, what I will talk about, though, is, SGG, I finally got my hands on this shirt. Was that new for the Palooza? Yeah, go ahead. Describe it for the people. You know what I mean? As I stretch it out and make it fit better. Hold on, here we go. As everybody knows, when WWE goes to cities, they have some what I like to call city edition shirts. There's the Yeet shirt that's in the colors of that city's major sports team. Although I haven't seen a Yeet shirt with any pinstripes yet, but that's okay. There's the Suplex City shirt with the exit sign that points to that city.

3:19And then there's the 316. Yeah, the 316. Austin 316, which I guess doubled as a city shirt. In my estimation, the 316 shirt is the origin of the city shirts, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. And so they would do everything. Chicago 316. So when I was walking around Wrestlepalooza, I saw people in the crowd wearing the shirt that I'm wearing right now, which is like the ESPN font. Black shirt with the ESPN font and in red says ESPN 316. So it gives you two things. Not only are you getting sort of the cool moment of the collaboration, but also it's giving the blood of a stone vibes for the red 316. Anyway, so shout out to the great Matt Altman, who I was like, dude, have you seen these shirts around?

4:15And he was like, yeah, you want me to try to find one for you? I was like, bro, please. Because they sold, from what I was told, and they don't normally do this. they sold a limited amount of them on site like a couple hundred were sold on site and then they were mostly just given away to people who were hanging out in the area where espn was shooting so they were just giving them out as promo which is sometimes where the greatest gems are found i gotta say i feel like they got that move from us remember we did that with the espn cheap heat shirts in new orleans well i'm whispering because i don't want them to hear but I feel like they got that from us.

4:52No, listen, I think there's appreciation, at least from Matt Allman, but I think there's appreciation that the origin story of ESPN and WWE, some of it has to track through your boy. I mean, at least a little bit. At least a little bit. We've been doing this for a long time. Anyways, welcome to the show, guys. We have a lot to talk about today. Like I said, Depressine will join us in hour two, and we have a slightly clearer picture of John Cena. So we're going to talk, obviously, about John Cena because that's what we've talked about. Over the next two months, when this thing ends, by two months from now, it will be fully over.

5:34Between now and then, there's still going to be a lot of talk and we're going to enjoy every bit of it. But I think we'd be remiss to not come out of the gate with the news of the week, which is that coming out of Crown Jewel, it appears that Seth Rollins has been lost to injury. The word is that off of that coast-to-coast headbutt, which was so incredible at Ground Jewel against Cody, that his shoulder is torn to shreds, and he will be out. Now, Dave Meltzer was speculating the Romania. I think that's foolish. Because generally, unless it's some injury that's like, god forbid on a level you know that you can't even conceive of i think of scg generally like the big tear injuries like this one my guess would be labrum right something like that if it's shoulder but even whether whether it's that or acl or mcl all those things i think four to six months now achilles is a different example achilles is usually a year for people that's a different animal but if they get to it fast you can heal faster true true but like faster you go into surgery yeah and i mean we've seen we've seen the achilles done a bit faster like you know you've seen like eight months stuff like that but achilles is a long one but these other ones the window i think is four to six months we are six months out from mania almost to the day there's no way in the world to me that seth rollins does not make it back for wrestlemania I just have to imagine it's going to be the first mania of the ESPN era let's not forget I don't know anything about this yet but I think one thing that's going to be interesting that we'll learn about and until then speculate about is whether or not they air some of it on regular ESPN television which I think is going to be on the table I feel like they should at least one night I think it's the first hour of the show.

7:44You know, like, my feeling is on WrestleMania. What's the actual date? Is it 2021 again? What's the date? I believe it is 2021. Let me just double check that for you. That's what it was last year, though, right? It was 420, wasn't it? It's back in Vegas. We know that. That we know. 18th and 19th. So April 18th and 19th, right? When you talk about April 18th and 19th, that is a full six months out. On that schedule, at that point, football gone. There's still basketball going, but it's not quite the playoffs? About to be playoffs? Yes, about to be the playoffs. I feel like in that moment, if I'm ESPN, I air the entire countdown show on ESPN TV.

8:36and then like the first hour of WrestleMania airs on TV, and then it's like if you want to see the main event and blah, blah, blah, go to ESPN Unlimited. So no matter how you cut it, it's going to feel like a huge deal, and I'm sorry, man. The Monday Night Messiah, the CrossFit God himself, Seth Rollins. CrossFit Jesus, if you will, as once coined by the great Emilio Sparks. Yeah, you know. I was talking to my friends one day about how that guy does CrossFit. I'm like, yo, it's like Jesus. Ayo. And that's how he came up with it. Let's talk to more people. That is how he came up with it. Yeah. He's like CrossFit Jesus.

9:18Oh, I just came up with something. Oh. By the way, Emilio's outfit last week on the podcast, he really did look like he was in witness protection. Yeah. It was the glasses. it's he's got the glasses the man bun there's so much going on with emilio sparks now i have to tell you i felt when i was watching live and as you watch live you watch later that day i watched live i watched that match live that match you were up for um i was floored by the coast to coast headbutt yeah i didn't think it was going to be a headbutt i thought it was going to be a drop kick. Maybe it should have been SGG. Maybe it should have been.

10:05But when Seth hit the coast-to-coast headbutt, I was like, me and E were both like, whoa. And the second he landed, I was like, I don't know if I like how that looked. And listen, I know the ref always checks on people after a big spot. And I don't know if you noticed, though, SGG, it seemed like the conversation right away between Seth and the ref was a little bit longer, a little bit more intense, and I was like, uh-oh. Did that go bad? But then, of course, they finished the match. I think after the coast-to-coast headbutt, you still got the super crossroads. Yep, that's what I was going to say.

10:46I was going to bring that up, which is why I didn't think, I thought nothing of it. I didn't notice that the ref had an extended conversation with him, but then when I heard that he might be injured, I was like, yeah, it had to be that super crossroads thing because that was just it was it was apparently i think it yeah i think it was the i think it was just the head but who knows if the crossroads made it worse i don't know now if if if what they're saying is true and the shoulders just all messed up in every way that shoulders can get messed up like if there's a tear in there and potentially i'm sure i'm sure the prospect of a separation is in there as well which is you know on the smaller end obviously but as sgg knows very well from my situation i do a separated shoulder alone guys i'm sure people listening right now have separated their shoulder when i separated my shoulder i wanted to cry like a bitch oh my gosh it is so painful so the idea that he tore things probably and separated and finished the match SGG, when I separated my shoulder for about two weeks getting out of bed was horrible.

11:59I had to like use whatever weak ab muscles I had to like get myself up and turn off. You can't put anything on your shoulder. The idea that if you had something torn in there can you imagine how painful it is to touch? For example when you go back and watch this week's Raw segments knowing now what everyone's saying about Seth yes and you watch first the spear that he took from Braun Breaker you can see how much Seth is favoring the arm yeah like he's clearly keeping it so tight it hurts so much and then he got the tsunami after you know these guys before that before we even get to that when he's in the locker room with them and Bronson Reed I think he comes back from a match or something like that and bronson reed pat seth on the shoulder you see seth like wincing pain and give him a look like yo why are you touching that shoulder how did i miss that really is that what happened it's he that's when i'm like oh yeah this is bad because just a little pat on the shoulder he was just like come on son please please let go what is he doing um so anyways now it appears we will be without Seth Rollins, which is a massive, massive disappointment.

13:24And just a reminder of how fickle this business is and how just hard it is. You know, Seth is, Seth's what, 40 years old? I believe so, yeah. And, you know, it is, he has a lot of mileage on that body. he has went through a lot of different things he gets to this moment you know and to have it happen right now SGG I really thought that the win for Seth at Crown Jewel was so critical A. it was an awesome match and there's something about winning a banger like that particularly as a heel over your baby face champion who you've never beaten i just thought that was another huge moment in this evolution that we've been watching for seth rollins did you agree like did you come out of that match thinking oh wow he he has leveled up again he keeps leveling up and it felt like another level up yeah i 100 agree because like you said that match was a banger and he needed that win And then his speech on Raw in the locker room on Monday night, it was absolutely true.

14:42This is the mountaintop. It feels like the mountaintop, but we're going to level up again and we're going to show people that there are new heights now. Now, it turned out that that was a bad omen for him, but for Seth, it really feels like, fortunately and unfortunately, that is the story of his career, right? There's a setback and then a huge comeback, and he reaches heights unseen. Because during his first world championship run, he had that injury that he suffered that kept him out of action for a little while, came back at Extreme Rules. We were both there. In the run-up to a WrestleMania match with Triple H, he got injured.

15:19um i think he got injured recently too he was supposed to defend the title against bronson reed at a crown jewel or at a event in australia if i'm not mistaken but he was able to come back just in time for mania and have that huge mania weekend with cody and roman and everything like that so i think as as heartbroken as i am for seth because he is injured just looking back on his career i already know that like he he's been like a phoenix this whole time he he burns up goes up in flames in a blaze of glory and he comes back like we've never seen him before so i'm looking forward to that hopefully he recovers now i i really i saw a melter reporting um through mania i refuse to believe it i do not believe there's a world sgg in which he is not back for me.

16:11He's right in that window today. It's October 17th, 18th, whatever it is this weekend. So you're talking about mid-November, mid-December, mid-January, mid-February, mid-March, mid-April. We have a full six months for him to get back. This is a guy who knows he's having the run of a lifetime and at a time in his career in which these things aren't guaranteed to happen over and over again i don't know how they're going to get there and i understand it's going to create some challenges but scg i would bet all the money in the world that we see seth rollins at wrestlemania i'm sorry yeah i would bet on it too because a because it's seth rollins he's going to work his ass off to be back as soon as he possibly can because he still needs to capitalize on that moment and you know If it has to happen at a SummerSlam, so be it.

17:08Right, another big event, so be it. But you just have to know that he has his eye on the big one. I think he pulled it. I really think he pulls it off. And in 2025, with an injury like this, with someone who's having such a hot moment, hear me out. Do you have to take them off TV? Do you have to vacate the title? That's what everyone's speculating on. there's going to be a tournament. My question, just for us to think about and discuss as a family, do you have to do that every single time? It's something that we default go to, but here's the beautiful thing about wrestling. It's not the same as other sports.

17:52You can tell the story how you want. So is there a world in which we don't have to take the title? Because SGG, and we're going to get into this, how much did they rush turning the bronze on Seth? How much did this affect the overall story? And did you have to do it? Was there a way to kind of keep him on TV, let him recover and tell a story involving the injury without doing all the things that they've done and appear to be set to do if you believe what you hear? If he's going to be going through mania, then then yeah that's a longer gap but what if that's missing rumble what if he's back what if he's back for the final month leading up to mania meaning you'd have to get us right from right now until early march mid-march yeah he does miss the rumble and i guess they could have the rumble without without the title well because the rumble winner the rumble winner is who could call him out you know i'm saying that could be part of the story yeah listen i i get why i just i grew up in an era where man you might not see a guy defend the title on tv for six months just because i remember that i remember that was just you know regular life everyday life um but so i just wonder now you know when you don't have to have the guy having a match every night when he has a faction when he has Paul Heyman when he has the bronze what is there a sort of play where you can still utilize someone or maybe they just think and the reality is that for someone to get healthy you need to have them off tv so they're not traveling and not doing all the bowl ish it's possible it's possible that that's what it is um but yeah I just think vacating the title is the way to go it does open up more possibilities um and on dip's behalf i'll say i hope that one of those possibilities is not la night but i think that vacating the title would be the way to go well you know that is a really interesting point you brought up though because la night who's been hovering around this picture for a long time could this be sgg his bet the best opportunity he will ever have to get the world title yeah this is this is his when his time is right now i don't think his time as in the opportunity is best for him right now i don't think he's gonna get there um but this is his chance seth just worked the entire world with an injury yeah and then that's why nobody believes he's actually injured and then after working everybody.

20:43He wins against Cody Rhodes, does all this stuff. By the way, came out to the post show. Yeah. I sat right next to him. He was healing off on the crowd, screaming at people, celebrating, having a great time. No indication that he was injured at all. And then you find out he's injured and hook line and sinker we're all just like well seth's out there's no world in which he would ever do anything to trick us again now listen he's probably not but to the caller's point how do we know how do we know anything this is with sports there's no spec trust me i've been left in the position of having to go on sports talk radio speculating on real injuries it's not really fun like you know what the timeline is the timeline is what it is you get the date they come back that's it with wrestling we are going to not fully know the ramifications and when he's back until the man walks through the curtain yeah it's it they're never going to say clearly when it is and at some point we're gonna hear oh and he's and he's back but no matter how you cut it a bummer that it happened when it did we still have john in staten island we still have bill in toronto i need you guys to hang on to get into hour two we're also going to be joined by dipperstein in a moment we haven't even talked about my travel to australia which was what everyone's really here for.

22:24That's why I showed up to work today. Yeah. What was happening on the flights? Dip wants to know if I ate cereal. So we'll do all of that coming up in hour two. And, of course, you can be part of the show at 877-344-4893. Happy weekend. It's GP Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. You may choose an Arbitron watch for superb quality, design, and value. h2o a watch by armytron the hottest fashion look for your wrist armytron

23:03he puts the 24 7 in pro wrestling nation 24 7 welcome back to cheap heat with peter rosenberg happy friday or saturday or sunday depending when you're hearing the show it's a pro wrestling The Nation 24-7. She Pete Live, as you just heard. Peter Rosenberg, Stat Guy Greg. And now, from Los Angeles, a man who is legitimately, at 38 years old, significantly worse with technology than my 78-year-old father. It's Brian Dipperstein. Hey, Dipp, how are you? I don't like to be – I feel bullied. Live on the air, I'm feeling bullied. That's what you're making me feel. 83 at 38, Dipperstein. Can you imagine when this guy – can you imagine when this guy is like 70 what he's going to be like?

23:54Let's just tell you. We're fighting over the fact that my laptop is – there's no more memory on the laptop. And when you look, there's 150 gigs of other filling up the laptop. So whatever other is, is out of my control and other cannot be deleted. Yes, it can. So if someone can call me and tell me, a peckerhead, how to delete other will be in great shape. Wow. The disrespect. He skipped right over the podfather, his majesty. It went to a peckerhead. I've tried to explain this to him. He doesn't want to listen to that. Are there any IT? I need an IT peckerhead to call me and tell me how to get rid of other.

24:35I don't know P's IT certifications, but I mean, the guy has been in the music industry for 20 plus years. He's been saving files, moving files. Oh, like you wouldn't believe. They'll transfer it to new computers. And then this is pre-cloud. This is pre-cloud shit I'm talking about. I want to go back to a pre-cloud life. I don't like that. I'm not a cloud guy. You don't need the cloud. I'm not cloudy. I'm not a cloudy guy. I don't like a cloud. Give me one of those brick things. He's full of it. I told you to get. You need a brick. I don't even know the cloud. I know I have the cloud. I don't know what's going on in the cloud.

25:13God knows, by the way, what's going on in my cloud. You don't want to see into my cloud. So, let me ask you a question, Deb. Are you looking at the computer? Lots of cookies from Essie, Scoops, and Raja. That's what's going on in my cloud. By the way, that's probably part of the problem. Are you looking at your laptop right now? Yeah. Okay. Let's just do one simple exercise. I want you to go up to the little, you see where it says. we can't do this now for the people. You see on the top right of your computer, do you see the little magnifying glass? Yeah. Do you know how to search for something?

25:52Yes. Yes. All right. So don't actually do the little magnifying glass. Just do Command F. Do you know how to do Command F? Yeah, I know Command. I can do Command F. Now, once you do Command F, we have now... You want me to do this now? Nothing comes up. Nothing comes up. doesn't work what do you mean nothing came up there's no find screen uh there's no i don't see command f it's a symbol it's next no command i know it doesn't there's nothing comes up nothing comes up well what hold on that's because you're probably on a screen get off of get off of stream yard get off just tap the desktop i'm not getting off anything i'm entered we're entertaining the people we're talking about wrestling which we love and think is great please oh i'm gonna do it i I promise.

26:36Just tap the desktop so nothing's highlighted, nothing. And then do Command F. I'm in the Finder. I'm in Finder. That's the same thing. Now, once you're in the Finder, can you just do me a favor, a solid, if you will, and search by size. Can you do that? You see how it says kind? Change kind to... He's getting... Don't get upset. Don't get frustrated. talking about i don't know what i don't know where this is i don't know what's going i i miss my my 1998 hp desktop that's what i i miss these fakakta max and all this new crap you can't plug anything into the left or the right of this laptop it's insane that's the real issue i can't live like this with one plug i need multiple plugs yeah i'm never going to be able to explain to him that there's like a way to search for things by size, right?

27:35I've done this already. I've done it. When you search for files by size and you see what the biggest items are. Peter, Peter. No, no, hear me out. Hear me out. If it's 150 gigs, that means there are a bunch of giant files that in one fell swoop, we would be able to delete. There's no world in which you have 150 gigs worth of just like documents. It's not how it works. I understand that I get it Here's what I'm guessing he's missing And I want everyone to remember That just recently Dip came over to my house This is three months ago And we wanted to watch a UFC fight That was on delay And he goes I got it He's logging in on my computer I have my ESPN I'm logging in I can't do it I can't do it There's no way to do it I go Dip I promise you I can log in I tried it.

28:31I did all the things. I do this all the time. I know how to do it. I take the remote. 30 seconds later, we're watching the fight. He doesn't know how to do things. He's like a grandfather. He's lost. He's confused. And I promise you, I bet that you have files on your computer that are like a gig or two, maybe three gigs of nothingness from when you were recording the podcast. there are these files that get automatically saved into the bowels of the computer. There's bowels. There's bowels. Oh, there's bowels. And they're deep in the bowels. It's deep in the bowels. It's very deep in the bowels.

29:12Anyway. But he's just, I mean, SGG, when he's 70 and I'm 78, we're going to be like in our flying cars. I'm going to be like. His car won't fly, I don't think. I don't think my car is going to fly. he won't be able to get it by the way dip's not getting it in the air speaking of crazy situ things like this i was in a somewhat runaway waymo the other day i was in a runaway waymo i get in a waymo i get in a waymo okay he may have lost stg for the show the idea of dip in a runaway waymo I was in a runaway Waymo. I get in. We're going from point A to point B, point A to point B. Okay. And it wouldn't pull over.

30:00It wouldn't stop. It couldn't find a place to stop. Meanwhile, we're a mile past where we needed to be. Then it didn't know how to make the left back to where we needed to be. So what do you do? It was a runaway Waymo. Oh, my God. This is what worries me about the way I've never done it. The only time I ever went into a driverless car dip was you and I in Vegas when they were first trying them out. We did one. I've never been in one since. They're not in New York. I do it all the time. They won't last in New York. In L.A., they're very common now. Everyone's taking them. They're everywhere. They're everywhere.

30:34Everyone's taking them. You have to. By the way, they're great drivers. They're better drivers than me. That I can tell you. Well, that I know. An invisible person is a better driver than me. I have no doubt. I already like this Waymo. I like the cut of his jib. He knows what he's doing. Better than Dip does. Dip's freaking out. Wait, so there's not going to be an electric car line named D.I.P. Yeah, no. When you get in the car, it immediately starts sighing. And when you tell it where it wants to go, it's like, oh, you really want to go there?

31:08And then he's getting nervous when you're telling it, exit here. I can't get there in time. Sorry. We're going somewhere else now. That would be Dipp. That's the Dipp service. That's so interesting, though, that they're like really – it's its own app, I'm assuming, Waymo? Yeah. Yeah. And you haven't been kicked off of this one? No. By the way, so there are a few things that are surprising about Dipp's personality that don't make sense to you, all right? Like my friend Jim Scranton McGee who didn't eat mashed potatoes. Dipperstein doesn't care. Dipperstein doesn't care about first-class travel.

31:41and he's also been kicked off of multiple riding services. I don't know why. He doesn't get drunk and angry. He's never bitten a driver. Yet for some reason, he's driven people. Dip is the only person who's been kicked off of Uber for being nebbishy. They were like, we can't have this guy on our service. He's talking up the drivers too much. Too much shtick. that's why dip has been removed from the service they don't want the shtick as she's one bit too much one bit too many all right well good i'm glad you're able to get a waymo because i've seen what you went through before with the ubers and the lifts it's it's a whole situation they don't come to my house though the waymo doesn't drive up hills or on highways i can't get it i was wondering why dip was in a waymo and not an uber or a lift but that it's my other it makes sense though right No, so wait, it won't go up into the hills because if it gets stuck in a turnaround situation, it can't do it.

32:43Or it could fly off of Mulholland Drive, and that could be good. And it won't do – I wonder when it will switch to highways. They're going to get there, of course. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't go over a certain speed, I don't think, the car. I got to tell you, though, they do – they know what to do. Wouldn't it be really good, though? I would say drivers, the way most. I got to say. I would say, wouldn't you say, though, in all seriousness, with the exception of how crazy people are, with the way the city grid is, I actually think the Waymos would do well within Manhattan. It's such a straightforward, you know, like people who don't know the city think it's really hard.

33:20But when you've been in the city, you know, getting around, it's actually not very complicated at all. So, like, I would actually think it would work well. No, it'll be a nightmare because the cabbies, first of all. Well, they'll be gone. And the jaywalkers. the way most do slow down and like they stop at any little they stop though they stop they'll stop too much yeah Jaywalkers are going to completely break like you won't get anywhere you'll be in the ride way longer Tesla taxi is going to get introduced in the next year and a half and then it's that'll be the end of you know what I'm glad Elon Musk is finally going to make some money I've been worried about whether or not he could put put scratch two dimes together so I dip I waited we wasted time talking about an injury to the biggest star in the company and the championship and all these things that don't really matter to wait for you to get here so we could talk about my travel to Perth what do you want to know I'm an open book go ahead I've got I will tell you anything you want to know about making it that far I think you uh got a little braggy on the socials uh I think it was a you got a little braggy I'm seeing I'm seeing some things I don't think we we should have seen am I wrong he's going to disagree completely I think he'll side with me I think that's exactly the type of flexing and the level of flex that the IG stories were for now I didn't see anything super braggy unless you know there was a close friends extra braggy post that I might have missed I don't know but I'm just saying I'm not always on so I might have missed something that was really high level that would have crossed over into Bragi like, whoa.

35:00What are you talking about? Greg. This is Mage. Greg, I got a text at some strange hour that said I'm getting caviar. Okay. And he knows how much you like caviar. That's because you're the only friend I know who would pop for caviar. You are the only one. I got the text. By the way, can I tell you, I don't think I like it. Oh, stop. Stop it. It's too fishy. It's too fishy. I don't like it. What is this? It's not that great. It's okay. I like the creme. What's the creme called? Creme fraiche? Creme fraiche. I like the creme fraiche. I like the creme fraiche. I can only eat that in very small doses.

35:46Oh, we know. That is creme fraiche is the ultimate stomach killer. Creme fraiche is the highest level. You might as well just drink poison. Do you know that if Dip were to ever bite an Uber driver and be sentenced to death, he'd be the first person who'd be killed by creme fraiche? They'd say, here we go. They'd give him a full bowl of creme fraiche. He'd be dead within an hour. Instead of a shiv in prison. Someone just forces his face into a pile of creme fraiche. Creme fraiche is cheaper than a lethal injection, so we're just going to give him the creme fraiche. now now so to dip's point i will say because i i had the business travel to australia i was intentionally showing off on my social media i thought scg i was being a little tongue-in-cheek of being overtly like this is ridiculous because if you're really cool do you have to be excited about every meal i'm posting every meal every bit of food they're putting down on my table i'm pulling out the camera and filming it everyone else there's acting like they've been there before Not me.

36:53Not me. I got to the point where I was full on the plane, and I'm like, I still need to order more. The only thing I didn't make it to, SGG, I was very disappointed. I ordered a breakfast on my last leg of the journey, and I was sleeping when it came. They were like, oh, Mr. Rosenberg, I'm so sorry. We had your acai bowl for you, but you were asleep. We didn't want to bother you. They didn't wake you up for the acai bowl? I had just had a beef tenderloin like two and a half hours before.

37:26I wanted to see the steak sandwich. Let me ask you this. Here's the real question. If you get the beef tenderloin and it's maybe too rare, can you send it back? Of course you can. And what would the send back reaction be? Oh, well, the beautiful part is there's no chef. It's just them heating it up. So they go, well, heat it up more for you. No problem. You kidding me? In all seriousness, I know you don't care about this. And also in all seriousness, I am the definition of not actually a snob. But I hate travel. And so getting nice travel to me is the one thing that I like truly. It is the one bit of snobbery I truly have.

38:12Yeah. and I will tell you dip Qatar Airways when the way you are treated in business class is bed bath and beyond like you really everything about it is me first of all they don't bother you about anything they're not telling you to keep your seat up they're not the only thing they do and I got an answer to this this is important the only thing that they did on this flight that drove me nuts So they did it both ways. They did it on the Australian airline Qantas in business class, and they did it on the Qatar. Is they insist on lifting up the window on takeoff and landing? Oh, what the hell is that?

38:50Oh, I've seen. What the hell is that? I asked. I asked. I mean, that's crazy. I got an answer. Uh-huh. On the Qatar flight, I said, sir, can I ask you, what's going on with the lifting up the window? Why do we have to do that? he said the reason you do that is that if god forbid something happens with the plane on takeoff or landing they would be able to see whether or not there was smoke in the cabin now we're having a conversation yeah i'm getting information for the people now you know the next thing i need to know is why does my seat have to be upright for me to land and take off You sent me that caviar.

39:40I was on a plane, too. I was in Winnipeg last week. And when you sent me that text about the caviar, I was sitting in a coach seat in front of the emergency seat. So it didn't even go back.

39:59That is unreal. Really? And I was eating caviar in a bed.

40:07This is the haves and the half nots. And I'm going to tell you something else, too. We went to a lounge in Doha, Qatar. Oh, any Frosted Flakes in Doha? Yeah, of course. Oh, let me tell you. It ain't Frosted Flakes, my friend. It is ordering steaks. You're ordering steaks. You're ordering old fashions. You're at a steakhouse. I took a shower. The shower of the century. You took a shower. Get the fuck out of here. You took a shower in the lounge? Yes. Yes. They're made. Glorious. Oh, stop. Stop it. What do you think? It was a locker room? You think it was like my dorm? You think it was like Centerville Hall at Maryland?

40:46This was not Centerville Hall. It was not. You did not need flip flops. I would have rolled around. Oh, my God. You're barefoot in the lounge? I was barefoot. Qatar, Qantas, whatever the hell it was. You're barefoot. I got to say, Pete. Hold on. He's barefoot in a lounge shower in a strange country. I have to speak my truth. When you flex like this, every time I'm so proud of you and I'm usually so happy for you. But this flight situation on the way back, when I saw the menu, no, this was the one time I was jealous. Still happy for you. I sent SG. SG got a private photo with flash of the menu.

41:33been jealous of a single thing you ever told me until you sent me the menu with the i was like let's try the afternoon tea for me you took a you you took a shower in an airport lounge without flip-flops as you i mean a dip i i don't want to i don't want to make any cultural aspersions but this is doha qatar do you know how much cleaner these people are than us do you know how much care they have to protect it was so clean it was so this isn't filth in america This is Doha. They cared for the place. It was pristine. There was nothing anywhere. Cleaned constantly. Besides my home and a few other homes, there is not a single place on the planet Earth.

42:18Doha, Qatar. I don't give a shit where it is. There is five places on the planet. I would be barefoot. That's it. That's it. Well, you were talking to someone. I will have you know the difference between me and you. And I'm not saying I'm proud of this. I'm just saying it's who I am. I will walk into a bathroom and take a dump at Disneyland, okay? I am repulsive. I don't care. That's too far for me. By the way, that's the name of my book. I'm deciding between two names for my autobiography. It's either dumping in Disneyland or farting in first class. These are the two book titles I'm considering.

42:58I want to get first class, I feel like, is the one. I feel like that's the one. All right. Well, this is why we had to wait for Dip to get here. So the show could really start. We've covered a lot of ground. We'll get to your calls next and continue. We haven't even touched on John Cena and AJ Styles yet. So Dip didn't think he had anything to talk about, but I'm sure he has thoughts on John Cena versus AJ Styles. We'll get to that much more next. We're farting in first glass. It's Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Get the Nintendo double-player system from Acclaim.

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43:51It's Rosenberg, SGG, and DIP. Cheap Heat on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7.

44:01All right, listen, it's Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. You just heard that. It's Cheap Heat Live. You just heard that. So we're going to get you caught up on everything. I do want to say I made it to Orlando yesterday with wife and baby, and I have never had this experience. For the first time ever, I was on a flight where my child was the child screaming from beginning to end. Let me tell you something. Don't recommend it. Not giving it a five-star experience. And no one was unkind. The flight was obviously delayed for two hours. So instead of leaving at 9.05, we left at 11.05. So she got to a point of hysterical where she couldn't regulate herself anymore.

44:48She had lost her mind completely. I thought she was past that point already. Of losing your mind completely? Nine months? No, they have not grown past it at nine months. They are fully still and can lose your mind completely at nine months. I think you've probably up until, I don't know because I haven't experienced it at all, I feel like up until maybe even three people can lose their mind completely. I'm losing my mind on planes at 38. Exactly. And then, of course, we finally get off the plane at 1 in the morning, whatever the hell it was, when we got to Orlando and she was fine, didn't make a peep.

45:22I got to send you guys. By the way, I got a car rental. I don't know why Avis gave me this car. They gave me a car so gigantic. It's a Wagoneer. You guys ever driven a Wagoneer? I love that. The new one? Yes. I'm into the new Wagoneer. I got to tell you. I'm a big Wagoneer guy. By the way, if you drive this dip, I will personally try to have you arrested. You are too small. I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. you don't have kids. You're four foot six. Why do you need this? It is the biggest. I just sent you guys a picture. Go look at the major group chat. Natalie looks like an Uber black driver.

46:04Look at the picture I just sent you. I love it. Nah, that's too much car. Dip, why would you want to drive a car this week? It's a school bus. I like a huge car. I'm thinking about getting a Sprinter van. to drive yourself in drive yourself with a sprinter yeah and by the way I'm still going to park in the compact spots okay let me tell you you don't buy the compact spot there's not a soul on planet earth that abides by the compact spot I've abided by the compact spot before I don't they're all compact every single spot's a compact you have to abide by the compact first of all you can't get in it no one's abiding by the compact rule no one how do you what do you mean you're not that's that's that means you're not abiding i'm pulling up next to f-150s and hummer evs and all this crap i'm parking galore next to these things in the compact spots my big ass car by the way don't you think it's weird to to all the things that don't end up about dip why would he want to drive these gigantic trucks wouldn't you think he'd think that's like really like gentile i'm like It's like as a small Jewish man, I can't believe you want to drive these huge Fakakta trucks.

47:22What car do I belong in? What car do I belong in? I think SGG will be in lockstep. Don't say a Fiat. Okay, I don't like Fiat. No, I'm not. SGG, tell me this man doesn't just belong in a beautiful luxury sedan, like a midsize normal luxury sedan. Why not just get a super nice small or medium Benzer Beamer and call it a day? I had that. I did that. I already did it. I need to be up high. I need to be above everybody. I was going to say. Come on. I mean, you and Ebro are the two people I know who need to drive the biggest car on the road every time. I'm getting that Hummer truck next. And you started this by saying for all the things that don't add up about dip.

48:04I think we have a better shot of counting all the things that do add up about dip. You know what? You may be right. Because that we can get off one head. You know what? That one makes more sense, I suppose, than the others. All right. So guys, let's just be honest. We have been very critical, or that's the wrong word. We've been disappointed with the stories around John Cena and this final run. Dip, when he was on the show two weeks ago, I remember Dip saying, when we talked about Saturday Night's Main Event, this better be good. This better be a great show. And I said I questioned how it can be a, quote, great show, at least from a story standpoint.

48:40but when I saw what this guy did with AJ last week which really didn't have much story to speak of it I mean that's putting it mildly they went on Twitter and said they wanted a match there was no story the only story was they have a history they said the fans demanded it the fans did not John Cena's tweet came first yes demanded it yeah he the demand came from John Cena bringing it up and then they made the match and guys I have to tell you I know that I yelled who did I yell at a couple weeks ago what was the guy Birdie was it Birdie Birdie I think it was Birdie I screamed at Birdie about his story or lack thereof we're not apologizing to Birdie first of all I'm not apologizing to Birdie but I didn't care about the lack of story because the match was that good and the story that Cena told in the match by paying tribute to all these greats to me dip i it was enough i loved it what did you think of cena aj i loved it i loved it i love the whole event i gotta be honest i'm again it's like and and i i know we've mentioned this in the context of watching aw where there's sometimes a lack of story but the matches are really good when you have a pay-per-view where i mean there's some great stories on the pay-per-view don't get me wrong but when you have just like a match like that that doesn't really necessarily have a story other than what they've you know created in the last couple of weeks or whatever they could muster when you have a match like that that completely blows everybody away it all sort of goes out the window so you know to me it was one of the best matches I've seen in the last 10 years I thought it was incredible all the matches on this Cena run have been amazing except for the Brock Lesnar match which by the way I contrary to what everyone else thinks I didn't even mind the squash fine I did not I did not I didn't I didn't mind it but but other than that this match was unbelievably good next level so L 'Chaim uh S.U.G.

50:41did you love it no I agree I love this match I thought it was a fantastic match so much so that I had to ask myself the question of because we had this conversation recently of like cena's greatest rival we were talking about maybe edge coming back for the last match is aj actually cena's greatest opponent because yeah there wasn't much story to this match but in terms of what we get from the matches they have three classics and i don't think anybody else that we could say we've seen across from cena whether it's randy orton or edge or brock or anybody else yeah they might have had better stories and feuds from like a story standpoint because then we can say oh yeah and then edge snuffed his pops and things like that but when the bell rings who better than aj and i i really have to say no one you're right maybe i wouldn't say he's the greatest rival i wouldn't put it up there as like as maybe maybe Maybe the two of them have the best chemistry of anybody.

51:49I wouldn't say he's the best rival ever of Cena. I would give that to Brandy Orton or Edge, which I have little context for.

52:02It's funny. You have much more context for AJ. You were around for the whole AJ one. Yeah. I think you're right. The rivalry isn't the rivalry isn't the same because like the story and the history isn't the same rivalry. But the matches are to SG's point. I mean, I just every single time every single time I see him now on TV. OK, and I mean, I know this is wishful thinking at this point, but stranger crazier and stranger things have happened. You don't want it to end. It's got there's got to be the rock. It's got to be. I'm the final boss. I decide when you retire. I decide when your last matches.

52:40I mean, the place would go apeshit. You want to redeem yourself completely with the whole thing sort of going away. That is how you redeem it. And there is not a wrestling fan on earth that wouldn't want to see something like that go down. Something really storylining and kind of shocking at the end. I can't remember if that idea came from one of you guys or a listener, but I'm hooked on that. would I be disappointed to the point where I don't appreciate what happens if that doesn't happen? No but my fantasy booking heart really is looking for The Rock to come out and say I'm the final boss I own you I don't care what you worked out with Triple H you're not done until I say you're done and they keep this going

53:30yeah now I mean I can I say something too about that I'll also add that for all the big things Rock has done, people at this point are used to seeing him. Like him coming back isn't the biggest surprise of all. It's a big deal every time, but we're used to seeing him. This one would feel like a surprise. This would feel like, if Rock wants a holy shit moment, he comes back specifically with Cena. That would create that. Now, I'm being told John Cena has posted something. Despite any, this is 1030 this morning. This is on Twitter or Instagram. This is on Twitter. Despite any speculation or rumors, on July 6, 2024, I announced I would retire from WWE in-ring participation.

54:21I am far from perfect, but strive to be a person whose word has value. 12-13-25 will be my final match. I am beyond grateful for every moment WWE has given me. I am excited for 1213 and look forward to seeing all of you one last time this is why The Rock has to come back and say we don't give a shit what you excited about it doesn't matter oh my god it's so true it's the ultimate it doesn't matter what you said but I promise that it doesn't matter what you promised the place would go insane it would be one of the hottest moments in wrestling history I agree and by the way him posting this he doesn't have to post that well I would say this if he was posting it the purpose of that post would be to sell the tickets but when I looked last time the tickets they were almost all gone weren't they I'm sure can we talk about that for a second too I think I saw about 60 ,000 people in the queue could they not have done this is it too late to put this in the stadium yeah you can Too late.

55:32Yeah, this is a done deal. Yeah, too late. I wonder whether... I'm going to look this up right now. I wonder whether or not it's completely sold. When I looked the other day, it was doing well, and the tickets are very pricey for Saturday Night's Main Event in Washington, D.C., but it wasn't completely sold out at Capital One Arena. Here we go. Find tickets. Can they go WrestleMania to Whip? although these days it's so hard to tell what the hell is going on with all the secondary tickets. Yeah, who knows? I'm sure there's a million tickets available, right? On StubHub. You just can't tell. Although, no, no.

56:14It's everything. They have official tickets. I see official tickets available, but it's not many. How many? How many? Six. I can't tell how many are available. At least 1 ,000 tickets? Yeah, I would guess there's 2 ,000 tickets left. Maybe 1 ,000 to 2 ,000. Okay, that's a lot. Well, it's not. It holds like 17, 18. And that means, let me put it this way. If you or I were throwing an event and we wanted to sell 3 ,000 tickets and you had sold 1 ,500 in advance, I would tell you with walk-up, you're going to get close to a sellout. You'd be surprised how much people look to buy tickets week of because that's when the word spreads the most of the event.

57:00No matter how much promo you do for an event, when the week before that comes up and everyone's going, oh, John Cena's in town this week, that's when everyone runs to their computer and goes, oh, can I get tickets? So if it's this close, it will be a full sellout for sure. Of course. We're on SmackDown sellout every week, regular ones. By the way, I wonder if Goldberg's going to be upset. I wonder if Goldberg's going to be upset because, you know, this isn't on NBC. This is on Peacock. so John's going to get all the time he wants to talk. Oh, yeah. Hand him the mic. Sorry, Goldberg. Cena's getting an hour.

57:34I can't see him just putting the boots down. I mean... What do you mean? It's here. It's not boots. Sneakers. Yeah, he doesn't even wear boots. Don't worry about it. Now, Dip, if you're interested in going... Come on, Rocky. Dip, if you want to go, you too could sit in the front row for just$5 ,079 and get an official platinum floor seat. Jesus Christ yeah you're gonna by the way you might not be able to get that whatever your next Tesla Wagoneer Ford F1 this that truck you have to save it get the floor tickets by the way guys we can talk rock all day long the rumor mill is just completely saturated with it's Gunther so you want to see an upset dipper scene when it's not rock and it's just Gunther walking out to the ring?

58:31Dip, I can't imagine. I like Gunther. It's not about that. Listen, we don't have to be sensitive here. Rock doesn't need to wrestle him. Rock needs to dictate the terms. You just want Rock involved. Yes. Rock doesn't need to wrestle Cena. It needs to be the Rock determines when his last match is, and it's going to be at WrestleMania, and it's going to be against blah, blah, blah. Okay, okay. But if it's not going to be at WrestleMania, and it's going to be at saturday night's event could you at least how about the rock dictates that it's going to be tonight against the opponent of my choosing and that happens to be gunther and now the rock owns gunther's soul and he's muscle for the final boss how about that good something something something not something plus but something okay a good way to go though is uh the rock dictates the terms it says you're not retired you keep going and then cena has to win his freedom and faces The Rock at WrestleMania.

59:28Because they're one and one at WrestleMania right now. It would be the rubber match. Cena wins and then Cena gets to retire. We're all getting our hopes up for one more. Yeah, it's not going to happen. Kelly's telling me that earlier this week was just the pre-sale. So this is now the real tickets on sale and it was just the pre-sale that sold that many. Guys, we're not worried that the selling out. What are you talking about? They're going to be a full house there. No, the question was just, is it literally going to be so packed that you're like, we don't even know what to do with ourselves. So your call's next.

1:00:04We'll talk to you and everything else that's on the table. Hopefully dip doesn't get lost in an automated car between now and then. It's Pro Wrestling Nation 24 7. This is G.P. Live. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. New improved sneaker tamers insoles to tame the most ferocious sneaker odor from the makers of odor eaters

1:00:38welcome back to cheap heat stay mage and enjoy yourself

1:00:53My wife is FaceTiming me from Disney World. But honey, I'm on the radio right now. I see her. Oh, it looks like they're sitting down for a meal. This is probably this meal I see. Let me see what I see on the table. What is it? It's a feast, Natalie? Thanksgiving feast. They bring everything from Thanksgiving. and it's all you can eat and they just bring family style. Oh, is this at the – We love red mashed potatoes. Oh, my gosh, my dream. Is she at the 1776 place? What restaurant is it, Nat? People want to know. SGG wants to know which restaurant at Disney you're at. Well, that's the Liberty Tree Tavern.

1:01:31Yep. Oh, the Liberty Tree Tavern. Oh, like you dream about. All right, baby, enjoy. Oh, she's showing me the – oh, I see wenches. They have wenches as servers, Deb. There are women dressed as wenches serving. And my child is dead asleep. She's completely out like a light. All right, honey, I got to do my radio show. Love you guys. Okay. Dip, I know that you will probably look down on me for this, Dip, because you're a man of class, or so you purport yourself to be. I love Thanksgiving food. I am one of the biggest Thanksgiving food guys in the business. I like Passover. You like Passover more than?

1:02:09It's Thanksgiving at J's. Or plus, depending on how you look at it. Well, and also, but Passover can be anything. I mean, you know, the regular Ashkenazi Passover can be any. I mean, besides the matzah and the egg. What do you like, the egg? Let me get it. Let me guess. You're into celery with salt water. That's your favorite. You like a little celery, a little salt water. I like the brisket. I like the Jew food. Not everyone does brisket. Most people do brisket. you don't do most in your Ashkenazic world i think most people probably do brisket but i don't think everyone does but your sephardic world is a new world for you you've entered into a new world yeah but guess what once i entered this world i did what rosenbergs do when i enter a new world i immediately look down on my old world that's how that's how you do it okay and then i'm disgusted by my old world and i go oh you cultureless freaks you don't know anything even though i never knew a thing i don't know anything yeah um i gotta tell you guys i'm gonna try to say this without getting uncomfortable because i'm veering into politics but i'm gonna say it very gently okay i'm not going to reveal anything about my political leaning because if you follow me you know i keep that very close to the vest on my flight yesterday sitting across the aisle from me was a man dressed in MAGA clothing from head to toe.

1:03:36And when I say toe, I mean he was wearing the Trump sneakers. What? Oh, yeah, baby. The gold Trump sneakers with the 45 on the back. Okay. The hat, the matching shirt. He there was nothing. I didn't notice any sort of pants. He didn't have Trump pants. You might have Trump underwear on, though. He might have had. Or maybe he has the new Trump watch. But he was wearing the shoes. And it was something. It was a sight to behold. And I have to tell you. I have to tell you something. There were a couple of moments where the baby was being loud and there was lots going on. And I have to tell you something about this man dressed in Trump stuff from head to death.

1:04:24He's a great guy. He was a great guy. I knew where this was going, by the way. Terrible fashion sense, though. It's accessories. You can't go. I know. It's so funny. I just watched the curb. I just watched the curb episode where Larry wears the MAGA hat to get people not to sit next to him or go near him. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And by the way, brought that up. It's funny. And by the way, though, I got to tell you, if that's what you were trying to do, I don't know if the flight to Orlando would do it. Let me tell you something, guys. Cast of characters on the old LaGuardia to Orlando at 9 o 'clock on a Thursday.

1:05:01That is, I was a long way from the Qatar Airways business lounge in Doha. Hey, guys, if you want to reach out to us over the week, RosenbergWrestling at gmail.com. Send your emails. We'll put you on the show next week. Thanks to Kelly. Thanks to Zach, Emilio Sparks. We'll see you guys next week. Coach is up next. Enjoy your weekend. Enjoy WrestleDream. pencil dream we'll talk to you next week