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0:28It's Jeep Heat. With Peter Rosenberg, featuring Stat Guy Greg and Dip. Well, no Stat Guy Greg today. The physically vacationing is doing what some would say he does best. Vacationing. He is off to somewhere or other. Oh, look, it's Cruella DeVille and another Dalmatian in the background here in New York. As we celebrate Halloween, I am your forever 24-7 champion. Welcome to Cheap Heat. My name is Peter Rosenberg. that's my Dalmatian friend Maya and Cruella the other Dalmatian bears wandering around and somewhere in Los Angeles standing in front of a cutout of himself which is just so perfectly on brand it's 38 at 35 Dipperstein hey Dip how are you hey happy Halloween hey how are you I'm great I'm great this is a cardboard cutout this is a picture of me from eight years ago this was given to me this was on the red carpet at the Emmy Awards and was given to me as a 30th birthday present from my friends.

1:33And what did it say to you about yourself that your friends thought the best gift that they could give you was a borderline life-size cutout of yourself? I think it just shows how good-looking I am and how much they love me. Well, you read into it just right. I remember your 30th birthday, I suppose. Wait, do I remember? oh yeah your 30th was the big big one right oh the 30th was the big one with uh you know the restaurant at at the club that was that you rented out the club and the club that i rented family for the first time what do you what do you see being the biggest my family around i mean certainly extended i mean some people i i met your mom a few times but what what do you see being you know as today is a special day halloween and we're going to get into some special themes within that day in a moment here welcome to the program well what do you see if you were to power rank important birthdays what's the number one birthday please mute the speaker the the streamer oh sorry yeah what's the what's the number one birthday in your in your guesstimation what would you what would you say is the number one birthday 21 do you really think that though i do i i 21 I mean, I guess people underage drink before 21 to such a degree at this point that like I don't think it really is that.

3:01Maybe I'm wrong. I would say 50. I almost would remove. 50 is big. Well, this is why I want to have the conversation. I almost removed 21 because it's like based around one particular thing. And like if you're not into that thing, it's not really a big birthday. It's not that different from 22 or 20. It doesn't have a major, you know, like there are like 25 is a kind of milestone. 30 is certainly a milestone. 40, that's what I'm saying. Is 50 number one? I think so because you're absolutely definitively an adult at that point. I mean, you're supposedly an adult at, you know, if you're a Jew, you're an adult at 13.

3:42But, you know, 30, you're sort of an adult. 30, you're sort of an adult. 40, you're sort of an adult. 50 there is no question about it that you are an adult so you're nearing 50 i'm nearing 40 i can't even believe we're saying these words but um i i don't know i i don't even want to talk about it that i know and then the truth is and this is the scary thing about life guys you know you freak out about all these birthdays and you realize whether you're talking about 35 or 45 or even 50 as you get older you realize these are still kind of prime time birthdays like I can't believe 50s around the corner and it absolutely freaks me out the idea that I could be pushing 50 years old is like earth shattering to be there but at the same time you realize old is old okay 80 is old and at 80 you're going 50 oh man I was in my prime at 50 years old I was like I was you're You're usually in the prime of your career.

4:47You might have young children. It's 50. You still got it going on. So I got to really think about that the right way. You don't want to treat 50 like 80. It's not 80. It's 50. I got to tell you, my dad's 78. It's not what I pictured 78 being like. My dad's still pretty good. That being said, let me tell you something. Let me tell you who hates a party. Who's never allowing a good party to be thrown for him is my dad. You want to meet the anti-dip. Oh, my God. I mean, Dip made 37 look like it was, you know, the number one birthday anyone could ever have. Oh, 29. Forget about it. Dip's like WrestleMania.

5:26Okay? Like, whatever the year is, it's the biggest one of all time. At what age did your parents start eating your Halloween candy? I recall them always eating my Halloween candy. Yeah, they always ate it. Yeah. I mean, what else would you do? To think about it now, if my daughter, like in a year or two, because right now she can't trick or treat. But in a couple of years, if she's trick or treating and she has a full bag of candy, I'm not letting this little girl eat all the sugar and kill herself. I got to eat the candy. I don't understand that. I've encountered many parents that I'm friends with and all these things who, oh, one piece of candy, two pieces of candy.

6:08Let me tell you something, okay? When I was trick or treating, whatever the hell I wanted. You want the Skittles? You want this? You want that? Whatever the hell you want is what you get on Halloween. You can't give – you can't stop the Halloween candy eating. Okay? That's the one day you do whatever the hell you want candy-wise. So you let your kid literally eat until they're like sick? I wouldn't say until they're sick. But, you know, you should be able to have candy without any – Yeah, yeah. No, you should feel that you should feel at least on that day like the guardrails are off and you're like, this is a special day.

6:52I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. Yeah. People do go a little crazy, although I will say we're being very mindful. We are not giving this little girl much sugar. She is not tasting a whole lot of sugar here and there. But the longer I feel that the longer I can delay her, you know, obligatory American sugar addiction, I feel like it's a win. So we're just taking our time with introducing very sugary items. Welcome aboard dip. It is hot. Do you have any big Halloween plans tonight? I am going to a party in Malibu and I'm going to be La Parca. Are you going to be which La Parca?

7:33By the way, your mic just got weird and like changed. Did you like? Yes. Yes. No, it had to change. It had to change. Apologies. Okay. You sure you did the right thing? Because it sounds a little, a little off. it's going to be fine. Okay. All right. Cool. Let me tell you one thing, guys. If in the moment there's a tech issue, there's no one I trust at the helm more than the man sitting across from me right now who's still learning how to set his VCR. So which La Parca are you going to be? Let me tell you, I had a rough time with the VCR back in the day. I'm hitting the tracking button. I'm hitting that tracking button.

8:08I don't know what the hell was going on. There's thousands of buttons on a VCR. I don't know what anyone did. um no one could set a vcr and the tracking buttons didn't those didn't actually do anything um so what which laparka do you plan on being are you the current laparka he's very tall and wiry no it's the old laparka original laparka mask i have um my mother went down was living in arizona for a few years and bought a bunch of masks lucha masks of all different various people i i have a Ray. I have a La Parca. I have a few others. And, you know, I'm going to I'm choosing the La Parca because we have a new La Parca.

8:45I thought it would be. You think there's a certain crowd that will appreciate. Yeah, I think this will be a crowd that appreciates the original. I'm not doing the whole thing. I may do the walk. I'll do the walk and the mask. And those are the two things I can offer this evening. Are you going to a party where anyone will appreciate La Parca? yes four or five people will appreciate the le parker mask including the host oh there's which wrestling geek is hosting this event are you allowed to say no okay you don't want people to be offended who weren't invited to this shindig that's exactly the reason i i figured that i figured as much uh by the way i do want to give a shout out to everyone on our patreon uh we're dropping a patreon this weekend and i posted yesterday on patreon i wrote so what do you want to talk about and we have lots of fun topics and questions that have come up um you know andrew your boy alan who i'm a big fan of your boy alan always shows up to evolve what a gg dude this guy shows up with his son he's wearing the rocky forever t-shirt he's a fantastic guy um nick is in there steven's in there so if you're ever looking for more behind the scenes uh cheap heat content sign up for our patreon it's patreon.com slash stay mage our last episode um well there were two there the last episode actually i'm sorry it was october 10th i see it's three weeks ago already so you're overdue for this weekend and that was quokkodile dunpea uh featuring raquel rodriguez deb you i'm sure you never heard that you really need to listen to it who else in the wrestling industry today is putting out an hour and 14 minutes of wandering around in a forest with a random current superstar who else is doing that I mean Raquel Rodriguez is on TV a lot right now she's getting a lot of TV and we were literally wandering we sat at a bar we fed quokkas it was a whole thing and you can only get it on our patreon so go to patreon.com slash Stay Mage.

10:47Dip, I saw you. You're doing the work. In addition to Kelly's great email this week that she always sends with all of our great topics, Dip, knowing that we were shorthanded, the teammate that he is replied to the email with a bunch of questions that you want to get to. And I'm excited about this, Dip. You really brought it today. Thank you. Thank you. What's the most pressing? I'm going to start with one thing right now, because it's the first one that you listed, and we saw the guy this week, because WWE released their promo for WrestleMania, which was interesting. The poker game situation, we didn't exactly reinvent the wheel with the Vegas idea of a little, there's a card game going on, we're in Vegas.

11:41but what was very important was the people that were at the table. And it was Paul Heyman and Triple H were standing at the table. Triple H, almost like the dealer, Paul Heyman, like Paul Heyman. You had Cody Rhodes. You had Roman Reigns. You had CM Punk. And you had Brock Lesnar. And so obviously they are trying to tell us something about these four guys. and the level of importance that they will have at WrestleMania. You're shrugging, Dip. You don't think that's at least a tell that these guys will be in major, major things at WrestleMania? I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of chatter online about who should have been in that promo and who shouldn't have been in that promo.

12:28And I think they probably debated it internally, to be honest with you. With Seth out, I feel like he could have been at that table, obviously. I think he would have been at the table. You know, I thought the addition of Triple H was interesting. We know he is the string master. Yeah, but it is interesting that he's in the promo. Yeah, it is. I would say that, like, that Heyman is the guy pulling, like, Heyman's really the guy pulling the strings in kayfabe, as we know. And so I would think that he would be the guy at sort of the head of the table. And if Triple H is whispering in his ear because he happened to be around, you know, maybe he happens to be around.

13:11But in kayfabe, it was kind of an odd choice to put Triple H in it. Not that I hate it. I love seeing Triple H in kayfabe or front and center in anything because he was one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. But I, you know, I just, I don't know. It's sort of, in your eyes, what you're saying is it's sort of breaking kayfabe in the poster because it's saying here's all the storyline people and here's the guy who makes the story. At this point, it's a little bit breaking. It's breaking the fourth wall a little bit. Yeah, unless they were to have him actually involved in the story, which it doesn't appear at this point.

13:47By the way, I want to be clear. Here on this show, we always have time for Triple H to be involved in the story. So if that were to happen, you're not going to get any argument over here. Love the idea of Triple H as an authority figure being involved in the story. I love blending the real. That's what we all wanted with the rock story. We want to see the whole board and the rock and the Triple H. You know, Triple H is the, quote, boss. But here comes the rock, who's a bigger boss. We're here for all of that. But given that we don't know that that's what's happening, it sort of just feels like it's like, and here's Triple H.

14:23He's the guy who writes the show. I think that's sort of how it feels. That's sort of how it feels. So is that a great first conversation to pose on this Halloween? is who in your eyes, if you were to pick, because essentially it's six talents that they used. They used four sitting at the table. They have Heyman and they have Triple H. Who do you think should have been in that promo for WrestleMania 42? I think that's a very interesting question. 877-344-4893. 877-344-4893. And then we want to hear from you on that. Who should have been there? Did you like who they did have? Should have been someone else?

15:04And then further dip, you specifically said what to do with Brock Lesnar. Yeah, what do you do with Brock Lesnar? Now, you know, if you're going to start a mania feud with him, you have some time. Usually, my guess is that whatever the mania feud is going to be for Brock Lesnar will be established around Royal Rumble in January, beginning of February, whenever that is in Saudi. But you have these two and a half months where, you know, it's sort of there's nothing's indicative of what they're going to do with Brock at this point. And my perspective is. And, you know, I don't love the you got to, you know, have the I don't I don't subscribe to the notion that you have to have the legend or the experienced person put over the young person.

15:53But I think he could at least make somebody, given the lack of all the people that are hurt and the lack of the newish people at the top of the card, I think he should be making a debuting Obafemi on the main roster. You want to make Obafemi a big player on TV immediately rather than having him go out there every week and just putz around with jobbers and beat, you know, whoever, Akira Tozawa. Okay. Why not debut him instantly against Brock Lesnar? He doesn't have to beat Lesnar, but instantly debut him as someone who could be a challenge to Brock Lesnar. And listen, it's not rocket science. We've seen it a million times.

16:40But you have him show up at the Royal Rumble. He tosses out Brock Lesnar. Here we go. Obafemi and Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania. You could do that too. Well, I don't know if they're going to give him the Mania spot against Lesnar. But at least in this moment with Seth Hurt, with this, with, you know, I don't know where Randy's at, but you have, you know, you just have, you know, you go through both rosters right now, and it's kind of a little thin with Roman being a part-timer at this point. But that doesn't affect WrestleMania where everyone's going to be available. Roman will be available. There's two separate conversations, though.

17:22There's week-to-week TV and then there's WrestleMania. I think in terms of WrestleMania, they still have a lot of options, a lot of strings to pull. They're only really down Seth at this moment. and you can basically assume they're always going to be down someone now the scary part is it's only October um so you don't know where you're going to land by the time you get there right and then of course will someone return between now and then these are all the things that we will discuss throughout the day so we'll continue that conversation and also get your thoughts did you like the promo for Wrestlemania if you haven't seen it just go on WWE social and look it up it's all over the place and who would you have liked to see there 877-344-4893 happy Happy Halloween.

18:02We're going to come back with some fun, spooky themes and conversations throughout the day, as well as we celebrate Halloween right here on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Sugar Daddy, some things never change. Sugar Daddy has the flavor which lasts a lifetime.

18:41Welcome back to Cheap Heat. Stay mage and enjoy yourself.

19:04Happy Halloween and welcome to Cheap Heat Live on this October 31st. Very windy and awesomely scary day in New York. Gray, windy. It looks like there are murderers happening galore. It looks like people are murdering and murdering in New York right now. Dip, how's the weather in Los Angeles? Is it feeling spooky? Are we getting Halloween vibes? No, it's 90 degrees right now. It's hot up a storm. But I love it. I love the heat. I'm not a cold guy. But you don't enjoy fall weather, like 60s and 50s? I pretend to. Oh, look at the nice fall weather. But the truth is I just want it to be hot and nice out.

19:52Really? I say, oh, I love the brisk air. I'm lying when I say these things. I don't like it. I like steaming hot weather. You like steaming hot? Yeah, I like it hot. I like 90. Oh, terrible, terrible. You're a lunatic. Yeah. You would take 90 over 75? 78? Like a cool, like you can still wear shorts if you want, but if you wear a long-sleeved t-shirt, you're not sweating. Like you can wear a long-sleeve, you can wear jeans, but if you want to wear shorts and a t-shirt, you're fine. You wouldn't rather live right there, 78, 79. Let me tell you something. There is such a thin line in between me wearing long sleeves and wearing short sleeves.

20:39If I'm wearing short sleeves, it's got to be hot. It's got to be a hot day. Okay? I don't risk. That's today, no? It is. I don't have anything today. I just have this polo. I don't ever risk being cold. There's no cold risk. In fact, this is a curb episode. I have the foresight. I have the foresight you always know whether it's going to end up cold yes yes I try to be in my bald years which have now been a long time over a decade of the bald years I take it very seriously because I'll tell you what the bald head is a cold thing how do you warm up a bald head with a hat I don't wear hats I don't like hats I don't like anything on my head you don't you don't ever wear a knit hat in any way or a base nothing itch i itch i take it off i'm itching i i'm i i'm not a knit hat guy i tried the beanie for a few years when it was trendy i mean it was a horrible mistake you've got a you've got i just be honest you have a myriad of problems i have no problems i got no problems you can't you have so many things that limit you like if i were making a team of people to survive you're not making first cuts of course not if you want some laughs if you want some chuckles i might be the guy until until he's dead you're gonna laugh we're gonna have a good time so is is it worth it for a good time well no but remember the chuckles are only gonna last as long as things stay comfortable because if things start to get uncomfortable the jokes will be replaced by complaining and sighing and now we've lost the laughs we're just into complaining and now he now we have to kill him yeah you're yeah i devolve very very very distinctly just like the thin line between warm and cool there's a thin line between dip jokes and complaining and it's time to kill him by the way by the way no matter where you take me if there's any sort of survival element i'm gonna be complaining and bitching and moaning the second he can't that one of the number one If one day we'll do a top five most bitching and complaining things about Dip, high on the list for me, one that rears its head all the time is, he cannot be in a car with a window down.

23:04That's right. The window cannot be down. If he's in the back left, it can't be the back right, the front right. God forbid the front left. Forget it. If he's in the back left and you open the front left, you would think that he's blowing out of the car. Like, he'd be gone. I don't feel safe with the windows open. He doesn't feel safe with the window. He needs the window closed in order to feel safe. It's true. This is one of the many things that you have to deal with. I don't like air blowing in my face. I'd rather the air conditioner where I can control. You can't control the outside air. What about a fan?

23:42Love a fan. Big fan guy. Big. Oh, you mean like a fan, a swirly fan? Either a ceiling fan or just a small little fan. I don't like, I don't, I don't love a ceiling fan. It's a draft. It's too much draft. It is too much draft. It's true. My mother comes to my house. Why don't she get a fan? She's obsessed with me getting a fan. I'm never going to get a fan. There'll never be a fan on that ceiling. Your house is cool enough. You don't need a fan. My house is hot upstairs. It gets hot upstairs. So you know what I've been doing recently? And this isn't actually great for the nasal passage and staying, like, not ever getting sick.

24:17Natalie at some point during pregnancy when she was hot all the time because Natalie runs hot period pun or no pun intended. She she she got these small fans during the pregnancy. So at any moment she could like set up a fan, you know, like if she's hot. So now I have I have one of these small fans next to my bed. I basically have it on every night. I'm using the small fan all the I like because the room isn't cold, especially, you know, like New York. You have an apartment. The heat goes on. It's kind of hot, but I can turn a little fan on and give myself a breeze to go to sleep to. You don't want to sleep with a breeze?

24:52No. You'd rather be hot? You'd rather be hot than sleep with a breeze? No, I want to control. I'd rather cold air be blowing on me in a consistent basis in the room. I don't want it directly just swooshing around. I don't want cold swooshing. No, but the fan's blowing right at my face. It's a direct, cool. It's consistent. It's the whole time. It's consistent on one part of the body. I want the whole room. I need you. All right. These are a lot of things. Things to think about. We came back with Undertaker's music, which Undertaker and Kane's music, it's some of the hottest feeling music that you'll ever hear.

25:27You know what I mean? You need a fan just to listen to it. I was so grateful when I got back into wrestling in 2005 that Undertaker was still around. And now I realize end of his prime kind of Undertaker. and I remember coming back to shows in Washington, D.C., and I was like, oh, wow, this Undertaker is still going, and it's still, in fact, in 2005, the entrances had become more of a thing than ever. They were, because like as Undertaker went on, would you agree, Dip? I feel the entrance for The Undertaker became bigger and bigger and more of a thing as the years went on, and by the time he was older at the end, it's like they knew the entrance was a big part of the whole show.

26:13Like, we're going to spend six, seven minutes on the entrance because that's what we have here. That's the best part of it now at that point. I mean, I love the Druids. I mean, I got to tell you, the first time I saw a big Undertaker entrance when like in my adult life was because of you. Was because of you. I did. Of course. I wept. It's very emotional. You actually shed tears. It's a very emotional entrance. Why is it emotional? I don't know. Something about the Undertaker entrance makes me cry. Well, there you go. You know what, Kelly? You're always asking us for one-liners for promos. There you go.

26:52That's all you have to say. You just say, you say, gee, Pete, Peter Rosenberg, play a little quote. SGG, play a little quote. Dip, the Undertaker's entrance. Something about the Undertaker's entrance makes me cry. There you go. That's true. I also want to mention I was in 1998. Go ahead. When I was 11, it might've been 1997, but I believe it was 98. I was cane, full blown cane for Halloween. I think you've seen my costume. I worked very hard on that costume. It was a lot of arts and crafts went into that costume, but I got to tell you, it was mage. And I still have the mask. I found it the other day.

27:32It's in my garage. Your garage has a lot. Your garage is WWE Warehouse of Chase. It is. I have learned by the way Dip I will 100 % be in DC for Saturday night's main event for John Cena's last show I cannot I got a big talking to from somebody I will not mention we are not we cannot mention on this call saying you are out of your fucking mind if you do not come to John Cena's last match you are in the wrestling business and you it is imperative that you be at that match. It is a moment in wrestling history. And you know what? I was like, I'm going to go. That's what you thought. So that was the takeaway was like, this is something.

28:23Because I wonder if fans will treat it that way. Will fans treat it like a traveling event? I don't know. Look, I got to tell you, and that phone call that I received this week was, you know, changed my mind about the whole thing because we're like, oh, why is it on Saturday Night's Main Event or whatever? The idea that John Cena will never wrestle again. Let's just say it's true. It's a big freaking deal, man. It is. I mean, he is. No matter how much we argue about greatest, fifth greatest, third greatest, whatever it is, he's up there. This is a huge deal. There will not be another. there's no other retirement like let me put it this way

29:10the only people out there who exist currently who would possibly get anything like this at the end where it would feel this way at this stage you'd think could be cody or roman yeah in terms of when their time comes i mean i think there are a couple of the women you know who will be a huge deal. I think Becky and Charlotte's end will be a huge deal. There are things that will be big. But to be this big, this big, Cena big? The only one out there, and Brock's not going to be Cena big, as big as Brock is. Randy's not going to be Cena big, as great as Randy is. I think Cody and Roman, and depending on what the rest of their time looks like, are the only, this is like, okay, how about this?

29:56What was the last retirement that even was close to this? Was it Flair? Yes. yes because this is this is bigger than hbk austin but austin we never got it properly you know no you never got it properly hbk we we did but hbk is

30:20yeah in terms of iconic stature this is a sorry to say mount rushmore retirement it is it is whether you think he's in your mount rushmore or not which we've had some arguments about it's a mount rushmore retirement listen i'll say this here's where i think we were getting it wrong here's my prediction when saturday night's main event moved to peacock our feeling was oh well, what is it now? It's no longer on NBC. What does it mean? Tomorrow's from Salt Lake is going to be one sort of thing. Okay. The December one with John Cena is going to feel like a full on PLE. Yeah. So does that make sense?

31:11Yeah. Tomorrow is going to be tomorrow is going to feel like, what is it going to feel like? It's going to be TV plus PLE adjace. Confirmed. I believe the December John Cena send-off will feel like PLE confirmed. Like it will be an all-out, full-on PLE treatment. Remember, there's no PLE from Survivor Series to Royal Rumble, which also means dip there's no ple on u.s soil from late november to elimination chamber in chicago is that right is that february oh no it's and it's it's end of february yeah right end of february is elimination chamber in chicago so between november the end of november in San Diego and the end of February end of November in San Diego to the end of February in Chicago, which, by the way, my favorite time to go to Chicago.

32:16No PLE on U.S. oil. I got news for you. The John Cena send off Saturday night's main event is the PLE between those PLEs. Yeah, it is a mid December Saturday night in Washington, D.C. full on premium live event. So, yeah, so you're going to make the trip. I might. I'm thinking about it. Are we going to stop by the Rosenberg's house? I mean, what's going on here? Is this December 16th? 14th. 14th. I can do it. I got that right, Kelly, right? I could do it. As of right now, you don't have any. 13th. It's the 13th. I keep getting confused because I have an event that week. Yeah, I could do it. You think you could do this?

33:04I could know your calendar your calendar fills in quite quickly we know that yeah December 13th my party for the radio station is the 12th Saturday night's main event is December 13th Capital One Arena that's right and we I'm gonna I'm gonna do I'm thinking about doing I'll tell you the trip I'm thinking about doing here we go I'm thinking about doing John Cena's last match in D.C. on the 13th. Fly to Florida to see the relatives. You do a lot of that. Until the 20th. Okay. I'm going to fly to UBS Arena for the Jesse McCartney concert. That's what everyone's doing. Everyone should do it this is the tour that i'm going on as well i'm jesse cartney at ubs of course yes with the jonas brothers with the jonas brothers no less yeah so hold on let me get that right then because dip is very close with jesse mccartney let me let me translate what you're saying it's a jonas brothers concert with jesse mccartney opening don't say that we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna go to the jesse mccartney concert and then go ahead i may take the bus the jesse mccartney bus to Barclays Center the night after where it's for the closing of the Jonas Brothers Jesse McCartney tour wow what are your thoughts UBS and Barclays Center back to back yeah I'm going on tour baby I have to tell you I thought at some point this was going to swing back around to some sort of other wrestling event so I kept waiting I'm like is there an AEW pay-per-view where is he going I didn't know it was going to end with two Jonas Brothers and Jesse McCartney concerts I can speak for everyone on the show right now.

34:55No one thought the end was going to be. I'm going to go to Saturday Night's Man event. I'm going to go to Florida to see my relatives. And I'm going to go to two Jonas Brothers concerts. No one thought that was where we were going. Jesse McCartney concert. But there is an AEW pay-per-view that I would love to go to in between all that too. Got to see the family though at some point in December. You got an AEW show in Chicago. Oh, they're in Chicago. On the 16th. World's End. Um, but, uh, and then I got to come back. I got the, uh, I got all 35 Tannenbaums coming to a Dipper Lago. So, yeah, all again, all these events, so many events, all of these things we'll talk about, uh, on the other side of this, uh, the Tannenbaums visiting dip in, in, in, at his house, his trip to Florida, the Jesse McCartney Jonas brothers.

35:43Oh, and we should probably talk some wrestling eight, seven, seven, three, four, four, four, eight, nine, three. Anyone out there considering making the trip to DC for the Sina retirement match? I'm curious about that as well. Plus, what to do with Brock Lesnar, and what did you think of the WrestleMania promo rollout? We'll get to all of you guys next right here on Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Step into the ring with the hottest WWF superstars like Hulk Hogan and Bret the Hitman Hart. Body-slamming WrestleMania action is now on all video game systems.

36:24it's cheap heat with peter rosenberg featuring stat guy greg and dip

36:34oh yeah baby i love this theme this is one of the greats i could just see him sweat pouring off of him pounding fist pounding people by the entrance way hell yeah who's better than sid very few one of the true monstroses i oh yeah there's no question uh monstros sorry dip can you see my background maya's in her playpen and she was just grabbing the bars like she was trying to escape a steel cage it was it was pretty did you get to see uh psycho sid in his prime um i mean i would i would argue that his prime his prime prime was WCW 1994 Horseman like that was sure sure sure but I mean did you get to see him in the mid 90s in WWE yeah I mean for sure I can't recall an exact moment where I saw him but I was did your mother and him ever socialize as far as you know Psycho Sid man can you imagine your mom you find out your mom has left your dad and she's dating someone new and you go who's mom who are you dating and the doorbell rings and it's 1995 Psycho Sid Can you imagine?

37:46He had one of the great, his action figure always went over. The Galoob 1990, 1991 Galoob Sid Vicious action figure is one of the great figures of all time. I know Sam Roberts. What the hell is a Galoob? Galoob was a WCW line of, made a WCW line of action figures in 1990 and 1991. And it was, they were stationary. You couldn't move anything, any part of them. They were like little statues. and uh you know at that time i think i believe the first sid action figure for wwe was made in 92 with the blue tights and so when i was three and four that was 90 and 91 i i needed something to wrestle with i needed sid to go over i needed sid as part of these pay-per-views that i was creating for myself and so i used the galoob sid versus the hasbro figures of the time i thought that was just you getting in a cheap plug for bruce pritchard's podcast no you needed something to wrestle with i needed something to wrestle with i mean people that know what i'm talking about those are the real ones okay that's that's that's the bar for me you have to be down with the with the galoops you have you got to be done with the galoops but you have to know what i'm talking about as far as having to use sid oh god it's beyond that it's it's beyond even knowing the The galoops.

39:10It's knowing specifically which galoob you needed in order to be able to have a real wrestling conversation. That's. Listen, I was never a figure guy. I had like eight LJNs and that was it. Can I have one person call in and who knows what I'm talking about and can relate to that? There's a lot of John Cena calls waiting. A lot of this and that's current stuff. Can we get one person to call who knows what the hell I'm talking about? Thank you very much. There's no question people know what you're talking about. But hold on. This is why Kelly Murphy is the producer of the show and not Brian DiPristine.

39:43Do you really think an interesting phone conversation is people going, yeah, Dip, the best action figure to play with, if you want the best playability when it comes to an action figure, is actually the Razor Ramon galoob. There was no Razor Ramon galoob. Okay. That was a Scott Hall galoob. Very rare. That's not – this is not a good conversation. No, I'm kidding. There wasn't. There wasn't. And you're kidding me, Jace. There wasn't. No, there wasn't. There wasn't. there was no there was a diamond there was a diamond stud that was like oh oh the diamond stud galoom now are you gonna put this quality of like needing to know this stuff does this also have to be uh whoever you're gonna marry does she also have to know you want her to have an understanding of the galoops can you imagine if i finally found the woman and she's talking about she's the first thing she says to me is tell me about your galoob experience yeah you know what you know what i think that would be an amazing date at the end when you drop her off at the mental institution when they come over and they put the face mask on her and cuff her again and she has to go back inside see you next time and then there was the unreleased ones they got the big josh galoob and you're spending thousands for a big josh galoob by the way you are yeah more your mortgage a second mortgage on the home so you can get honey honey listen it's not what you think this is not one of my harebrained bad ideas i promise you this is something that's going to lead to something good for the family okay i was i was online we have an opportunity to own an unreal hear me out a sealed unreleased honey please i promise you you don't know where i'm going here you're gonna when i get there you're gonna think you'll be glad you listened a sealed unreleased big josh gloob okay it's only twelve hundred dollars now they were released but they're like basically like extremely rare you had it you had a giant gonzalez one oh like you dream about uh okay so so we're gonna get back to more of your phone calls as well um and and discuss much more of course coming up after us today it's off the ropes with Coach and Nick Nemeth.

41:59So that's coming up later on today. We got a, I have to tell you, I enjoyed the Roxanne-Nikki Bella match this week. I thought it was Nikki's best match since returning. And I thought, Roxanne, man, Roxanne Perez, this is this woman. You talk about someone who is not afraid of the moment. like to think about uh the first time i was really made aware of her when she was starting to get big on nxt and she came on this podcast you can find the uh the interview online and told me the story of her mom her parents dropping her off so she could go and wrestle as a teenager and then being taken under the wing of Booker T and Charmel at ROW to think about where this woman is right now.

42:53Dip, Roxanne, is she someone who you would agree, like, I have complete confidence in her, like, all the time. She does not seem like someone I'm like, oh, is she ready for this? She just seems like, she seems so thoroughly there already. Dip, her birthday is November 5th we in one week she will turn 24 years old yeah i'm definitely in on a rock crazy i'm in on roxanne perez i i do think that the that it's time for her to separate from raquel not i'm not saying i know i like the two of them together it just it's i feel like it's run its course like there's nothing additive at this point she just feels like the muscle and it's been going on for too long so i'd like to see roxanne sort of break out have her have a big run you know on her own I think it's like holding her I gotta I maybe I'm stating the obvious but the whole judgment day thing is holding her back well I will say this was the week where I noticed a lot of sentiment around okay judgment day it's it's feeling like time yeah yeah it is I mean they're not even wearing the outfits anymore I mean Finn Balor's just coming out in a t-shirt every week you know like maybe it's a Finn Balor t-shirt but it's like I don't know man you know how I feel about the Finn Balor of it all it's time to put a rocket back on his back I mean the guy is such an incredible wrestler isn't it the ultimate sign that it's time to move on from a faction storyline if you think that there are multiple people in the storyline who would be doing better without the the faction I yes it's either they need to break it up completely or they need to go all the way with it and put it back together again with a new leader or with live like a returning live morgan dom doesn't need it live doesn't need it finn balor needs to ride on his own and get back to the title picture and finally hopefully and again i watched him in person again wrestle last week jd mcdonough is so good give him a tiny singles push in some capacity i know he's kind of a smaller guy or whatever the guy is the worker of the cinch okay so there's a lot i mean there's roxanne doesn't need it anymore raquel can move on to something else everyone is better without the judgment day at this point and i feel bad saying that but it's true wow dip bring it bring in the heat today i have to tell you sam this week on uh not sam wrestling live had i thought one of his best takes i've ever heard from him uh when he was saying it's basically time for dom to be a baby face and he called him a bart Simpson babyface I thought that was such a brilliant way of describing what Dominic could be what does that mean it's you should watch the clip it's on our social channels it's fantastic what Sam's point was is that when you watch the Simpsons you root for Bart he's a babyface but everything he does is bad he's always in trouble he's yelling at the teacher he's throwing rock he's doing all the things you're not using a slingshot he's getting in trouble but you love him and you cheer for him and that's the sort of baby face dom should be he should still do the underhanded stuff he should still be messing with the with the with the uh the bell and the time keeper let him do all the dom things that he does but why fight the people cheering him just let him be the underhanded little crook that everybody wants to cheer for because everybody wants to which here, Dominic Mysterio.

46:13And I thought it was very well said. Is this one of the Sam Roberts two-and-a-half-hour-long soliloquies about wrestling? Well, that's what Sam's whole life, you mean his constant self-conversation with himself? Yes. There's no one better at having a conversation with themselves. If Sam Roberts wasn't given a microphone and a platform, he would be in the same institution with Dip's future girlfriend talking about the Gloobs, okay? Because he'd just be walking around going, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, Now, here's how you book out in 2029. I start with Dominic as the world champion.

46:45And furthermore, he would be going and going and going and going. You know what I've noticed a lot? I've noticed that you are using the word furthermore a lot. Really? I've noticed. I'm noticing furthermore. Wow. Really? I wonder if Natalie notices this or Maya Rosenberg notices. It's starting to creep into your vocabulary in a significant way. We don't have to talk about it. Let's just move on. I'm just letting the people know this is now one of your words. I'm a furthermore guy now? One of the biggest furthermore guys I've ever heard. Wow. Yeah, it's really something. I wonder where I would have even found that.

47:22I like furthermore. I like it. It's very declarative. It's very – It's declarative. It's strong. It's adult. It's a grown man word to use. No child. Let me tell you one thing. If your child uses the word furthermore, put him on the first bus to Galoob Central. All right? He's going right to the home. To Galoob Island.

47:45By the way, how did we do the show this long without you in earnest talking about Galoobs? Because this word I'm going to be using to describe everybody and everything. It is what a word that is. Galoob. Galoob. Yeah, I just looked it up. Again, I'm not a figure guy. I apologize. Maybe some of you out there are looking down your nose at me. I'm sure Sam and yourself and others would be Fig Heel and Frank the Clown. People are disgusted with me. I'm not a figure guy. I don't know galoobs. It's a great word because it takes two words that already have a lot of impact. And I'm not using this word in the traditional way.

48:27I'm using it in the way to describe an idiot. it takes boob and glug and puts them together and you get galub it's a moron it's a it is it is galub is such a fantastic there's so much it's a nerdy moron it's a nerdy moron who can't do anything they can barely move you know what i think i have two things to say one i think maya rosenberg's first word might end up being furthermore second of all and second of all and second of all fig heels i love fig heel he's a he's a he's a personal acquaintance of mine Wow. Oh, my. You know, Fig Heel? I don't think, yeah. Wow. You really are the big Hollywood hotshot I thought you were.

49:05Fig Heel's content has gotten so specific. You know, I love that. You don't say. You don't say. The guy with 93 ,000 action figures who only posts about wrestling action figures. You're saying his content's gotten specific. Wow. But he's getting into the paint and the details and the thing. Wow. I got news for you. Fig Heel, if Dip's worried you're getting too specific, we might have to have a... You might be on your way to Galoob Island. Watch out, Fig Heel. The bus may be pulling up. If you are getting too niche for Dip, that is when the Galoob bus pulls up in front. Here are the cuffs. Come on, Fig Heel.

49:45You're coming with us. So if you want to get in on any of these conversations, non-Galoob related, and don't let Dip intimidate you. You can keep fantasy booking for Cena's final match. We have no problem with that. I also want to get into something that is definitively wrestling a J-Stip because it is Halloween and you cannot deny it. Horror movies. There's something about the horror genre that's definitively like WWE fan of Jace. Yeah. Horror fans and wrestling fans are one in the same. Horror fans and wrestling fans are right up against each other. I happen to also be a huge horror fan. So I would love to get people's all-time number one favorite horror movie, 877-344-4893.

50:29Maybe you're into one of these ones that is just like it's either super old and not everybody's seen it or it's a little bit more niche and you want to share it with people. But I'm always up for some horror movie talk and what better a day than on Halloween, especially with so many wrestling fans. I mean, I'm going to tell you, when I started having conversations about Monster, the Ed Gein situation while I was in Australia, when that started coming up around wrestlers, everyone's got a horror take in the locker room. Let me tell you, a lot of nerdy horror movie fans in that WWE locker room. So 877-344-4893.

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52:07Who do you think is scarier, Kane or Undertaker?

52:12kane kane's scarier than undertaker you're right okay you know why because unmasked he's scarier i think uh that's a scary face i think ministry of i think corporate ministry undertaker was very scary with the with the goatee that's the scariest undertaker even scarier than the original oh hey by the way i i good news folks there's a uh there's a cheap heat uh tiktok account look at that kelly murphy started a tiktok account the tiktok yeah the tiktok and it's a cheap heat pod on tiktok cheap heat pod on tiktok right there for you good job kelly got a couple videos up there got almost 200 people following us we're just brand new but yeah we should it's time we have a lot of content to fill up tiktok with god there's so much is it is it time for me to join tiktok i think you'd like tiktok i think you'd like it i'm having scrolling issues right now i'm having scrolling issues dude i'm i think everyone's bad i'm i'm in a bad way well you have always been bad no i mean no no i know you'll fight me on this no no hear me out you'll argue me with me no no no no hear me out i've always had social media issues i'm now big in the like i just am in the once i watch one video blah blah i hate the act of doing it but i like some of the videos i like i'm liking what i'm seeing that's the point that's the point that's how they get you i'm watching i'll tell you we don't have to take too much time on this i if anyone has seen these what it's what it was like to live in the middle ages cartoons no those are you right i'm obsessed with them i love i love they did crazy things i do you want to know how insane the algorithm is so insane for some reason i've ended up in like the the depressing realm recently because i like watched a couple emotional ones yeah and people love to post these videos it'll be like it'll be someone's loved one dying and they'll say here's my mother dying this is what she thinks I'm seeing and it's a video of her old and dying and this is what I'm really seeing and it shows a recap of her like younger and vibrant and alive and I'm weeping at the end and then I get angry and I go whose loved one is dying and they just go I gotta turn this into a TikTok it's awful This is a great piece of content.

54:50It's gross. I hate it. I don't like that stuff. How do people? I don't like that. How do people think? And I'm not saying they're, I'm not saying you're like a bad person, but I watched someone post a video the other day. And again, it made me cry, but it said my children with their dad in his last hours. And it's some 50 year old guy on his deathbed with his five children with him. Why are we posting this? I know every moment I mean yes every moment every moment has to be posted every like they're a sad thing and it would be one thing if like it was a famous person and they go I just give you everything so you get the happy moments you get the sad moment but the problem is these are regular people I feel like we're just like I know I can stumble into some good thoughts some good traction here so I'm gonna I'm gonna start I by the way it makes a great SNL sketch though someone on the deathbed going grandma grandma i know you're not there yet can you do me a favor i just want to get this video done pretend you're dead play dead and you'll get back up um now real quick uh we should mention tiffany stratton and jade cargill jade was back on smackdown and she attacked tiffany she's officially turned heel now how do we feel about this um it does feel like it's time to do something one way or the other with jade she's been in my opinion better and better in the ring when she busted herself up the other day and had that disgusting scar it felt sort of like the beginning of something so how do we feel about heal Jade and now is it time like we talked about on the show a few weeks ago for like her to destroy people like give me an old school tonight we got Jade Cargill in action and she's in action with some jabroni and she just beats the living hell out of her I'm good with it can we start making her look impossible so then when she beats tiffy for the title it's like oh my god tiffy didn't even stand a chance like if you're gonna do it with jade there's only one way to do it in my opinion you you make her dominant i agree i mean i mean i i agree it's like i don't think it's too little too late but i mean i don't like to have a jade been booked you know i mean huge i would put the title on her tomorrow i mean i'm ready to go for jade cargo no one looks as good as jay cargo she is fucking awesome so so do you but you didn't like what happened last week no it's fine i don't think it was good enough i think she it could have gone even further um but i i am i mean i'm glad they're doing something it's not i wouldn't say it's something plus i would say it just is something and uh i'm glad that she's getting some important sort of angle i mean it's they should have turned her in like a vignette or like they should have like i don't know they just they just i don't know they just kind of recklessly do things sometimes like that like all of a sudden she's a heel okay they could have made her so much more mage to just spread it out for two months a little bit i'm not saying i need to it needs to be so can i can i push back against you sometimes when things take that long you absolutely hate it and go no i know i know let me let me clarify my statement i would have liked to have seen a slight character change And maybe we'll get that.

58:04Maybe we'll get that. This is a good moment for you to use furthermore. Furthermore, you know, I already said what I wanted to say. So there's another. Well, then you really can't use furthermore, can you? No, there's no there's nothing further or more. No, no, you're right. Sometimes it feels like they take forever, like like with with Jay and Jimmy. And now we're going to go back and forth and I know I. I tomorrow something has to happen with Jay. I really don't want Saturday night's main event to come and go and dip. Whatever. The character is not going to change at all. We're going to keep.

58:43Listen, I get it. I know every week the crowd is still cheering. So it's like we can't change anything. But to me, I'll liken this to football. Fans of football teams always get sad when their teams let go of players who they've grown fond of. But if your team's not winning championships, sometimes even if that player is still good, what good teams do is they get ahead of it and they release the player or they trade them before it happens because it's smart for the team. I view turning a character the same way. I get it. At this moment, Jay is still being cheered. But is it still really an upward trajectory or is it still just he's awesome so people are cheering him?

59:27that you can extend this whole thing being mage by getting ahead of it and changing the jay character now it's not that he's not doing it well of course he's doing it well jay's doing everything well this is just about how long people are willing to cheer for and be into someone who's just a good guy who beats people up we need character it cody is dealing with the same thing and Cody is one of the greatest in the world and yet when he gets out there tomorrow night you know we're gonna see how people react it seems like it happened to Wrestlepalooza too every show now you're waiting or the fans do they need something else fans are fickle fans are picky they want to see their big characters go on to new things whether that's right or not or fans are too smart or not that's how people are so this is my long way of saying if you were to still at this moment do something interesting with jay it could be shocking and elevate him another level up you didn't even know that he had i agree with everything you just said and the same thing goes with jade cargill does she just had like they couldn't come up with anything better than she attacks her and is a heel like come on jade cargill could be one of the biggest stars in the company we can't start her next chapter by just an attack i'm glad they're doing something with her but like oh she just attacked her oh she's mean like i don't even like make her reveal but she beat her up in the back one week and then even it's like make it to reveal it was her anything you know just give me by the way what about what about what about an innovative way of like a scene with tiffany where jade is so physically imposing she doesn't have to beat you up she could grab you by your hair and pull you close and talk to you quiet in a way that you go oh my god i will never get near her ever again you know what I mean like you're right to your point Jade Cargill hitting a clothesline it's like okay literally it's what we do if I were doing if I were booked on a pro wrestling syndicate tomorrow and they wanted me to turn on dip well what should we do then dip will turn around I'll hit him with the clothes on like that's it's just yeah I hear what you're saying we could do a little bit more there let's close out with your phone calls on any topic of the day.

1:01:45It's all there on the table for you. 877-344-4893. We didn't talk much about Cody and Drew. Is that a problem in and of itself? A lot of people are a little bit critical of what's been going on with Cody's title reign and him and Drew will go after it again at Saturday night's main event. So we'll preview that and we'll talk to you guys next right here at Cheap Heat Live. Happy Halloween. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Stats and Cologne, the A great masculine scent that's easy to wear and hard for a woman to resist. Stetson fits.

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1:02:46Scary. Whose theme is this again? What is it? I don't know. Papa Shango. Oh, right. Papa Shango. What a great scary theme. One of the great scary themes we've ever heard. Right. You're right. Papa Shango. I haven't heard that in a long time. It's a bad job on you, Dip. You know what? But good news. Every Monday night at 6 p.m. on Galoob Island, you go back and relive different 90s stuff. So it's 90s day every Monday on Galoob Island. 877-344-4893. Saturday night's main event, of course, is tomorrow. Four matches on the card. Now, do you think, Dip, that Jade beats Tiffany tomorrow and just takes the title right away?

1:03:39If she doesn't, come on. Come on, dude. That's a big come on, dude. If that does not happen. I know, but at the same time, I'm like annoyed that that's it in the sense that like. That was it? Yeah, we've had all this time. And then it's a clothesline on SmackDown. And then a week later, she takes the title off. You know what I mean? I know. I know. It's not ideal. It's not ideal. but it's it's it needs to happen i mean it's like she needs to earn it and also i think frankly she's i see it tiffany i think tiffany will be better off not carrying the title forever also i had to tell you i don't think this title run has been as meaningful as people think it has been for her i just i forgot she's that if you if you say when i woke up this morning and if you were like who's who's the women's champion you'd forget uh yeah

1:04:29just the way i like couldn't think of who the tag champs were this morning is it still the wyatts

1:04:38um yeah

1:04:44isn't it it is like what is going on there yeah well listen this is the problem with having tons and tons of titles. Who is it? I don't even know who it is. It's the Wyatts. Okay, so the Wyatts have the titles. Does that mean anything to you? Joe Gacy and Dexter Loomis are your tag team champions. No, it does not. But you have a lot of titles. Oh, right. AJ and Dragon Lee just won it. Oh, what? They won it last. Oh, yeah, they did just win it. That's right. Right. They won it. But like, I mean, what? I don't know. I don't like us. I don't like what's going on with the tag. I hate throwing together.

1:05:24Didn't your point just get proved though? What? That you're talking about how meaningless, like meaningless the titles are. And we didn't realize that there was a, the titles just changed hands against a tag team. That's not even really a tag team. Yeah. I mean, it's just a thing. I know. I know. I'm telling you, Penton Ray Phoenix could elevate the division instantly and they could be unbeatable, an unbeatable team. What's the, what I got to know they're trying to put Penta in as like the big solo guy or whatever. And his entrance is awesome. And he's a great wrestler, but there's no question in my mind that they are better together.

1:06:02No question. They could still do that entrance with the two of them and they could still use Penta's music. Why are we throwing Penta into these Fakakta matches? Why are we forcing him into the mid card when he should be at the top of the card with his brother as a tag team. And also just to be, you know, do we need two sets of tag team championships? No, there should be one. Like that. Isn't there one? No, no. Because they want it from Judgment Day. AJ and Dragon Lee run it, won it on Raw from Judgment Day. I don't even know. I can't even keep track of it. I don't see why. I don't see why you can't have the tag titles float between shows.

1:06:51It's not like the titles are defended every week anyway. You know what I'm saying? So like, let the champions, they pop up on TV here and there. Sometimes it's SmackDown, sometimes it's Raw. But does anybody win from having two? What do you mean? Oh, yeah. The Wyatts have one tag and they have the other. I just said. I'm just looking. I'm just looking online just to make sure. You didn't believe me. When I said it out loud just now, giving the specific date that AJ and Dragon Lee won the title. You still didn't believe me. No, I knew. I know that. But I forgot that the Wyatts had the other title titles.

1:07:25Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the street profits, you know how I feel about that. What, just that they're not in that picture in a real way? It's nothing. I mean, it's time to break them up. Please, God. I mean, I finally break these people up. Break them up. well but but but here's the problem dip you're saying break them up because you're hopeful that if they were to break them up then something would happen and uh you don't know that that's the case in which case it that's not a win if they get broken up and then then and then they're nothing that's the worst case scenario no you got to make them something i'm not i'm not suggesting they break up and be nothing i want them to be something i i understand that but do you see what I'm saying like there are a lot of people we want to be something and they're just not there is there is so much to do this is the problem there is so much this is why NXT has been pretty great recently because as much talent as there is on NXT you're able to sort of keep up with who everybody is and as a result it doesn't feel like people are constantly getting lost yes there are some people who you could stand to see a little bit more of, no question.

1:08:40But, by and large, you don't feel like people are just completely lost. That being said, Ricky Saints and Trick had a great match. Ricky still is your NXT champion. He did a great job. If you didn't catch him on with the Busted Open, guys, make sure you go watch that interview with Ricky and those guys. Fantastic. Tatum Paxley beats J.C. Jane becomes the new NXT women's champion Dark State defeats the Hardys to win back the tag titles we have to imagine you know me and Sam talked about this on his show a couple weeks ago you have to imagine they're on their way to a fully produced broken recorded on the ranch match at some point here to where it feels like we're going is seeing a classic, you know, true broken Matt Hardy, brother Nero produced match, which I think people would love to see.

1:09:42Blake Monroe beats Zaria, wins the North American. And then you got to see Mr. Iguana and La Parca, Deb. You must have been overjoyed to see a match that featured not only Mr. Iguana, but also La Parca. Yeah, I don't know if I love the new La Parca scenario, but I love Mr. Iguana. Love. I love this match. That match was way too long, by the way. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that the Day of the Dead match was longer than the title match. It just kept going and going. It was really fun. I get it. I don't know about the Zarya thing. I mean, she's cool. You're not sure about Zarya? Not sure. I don't know.

1:10:21I don't know if I... I'm not sure if that gimmick can get over. I'm skeptical about that, but I don't know. I'm definitely in on Lash Legend by the way I debut her tomorrow I'm ready for Lash Legend but this is doesn't this start to be the challenging part with NXT if they kind of feel like they've done enough with someone in NXT but they're not ready to now move them right away into Smackdown or Raw then they can end up hovering in this like middle ground of what are we doing because now you're having PLEs the person's not featured on PLEs you know what I mean you can very quickly in theory what's supposed to happen is you develop at NXT, you rise, you rise, and when you get to the point where now you're on every single PLE in NXT, you're a part of the title picture, you win titles, that after that dip, the next move is you end up on television.

1:11:07But the problem is it's hard to do that these days because the main roster is completely loaded as well. So you may be someone like Lash Legend who gets to a certain point of big on NXT, and then it's like, well, we just don't have anything left for you right now, which is what it feels like from the outside. Yeah, that you're probably right. I mean, and there is a lot. They just called up Julia and that was a little while ago already. Feels like I don't. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, yeah, so but last legend I is striking is awesome. I'm into life. I'm definitely into last legend. I would I would I'm ready for last legend regardless.

1:11:51yeah she no listen she she jumps off the page 100 um so yeah i mean it will be interesting to see what happens um she did start a youtube series dash of lash yeah she's a she's into cooking apparently dip okay i'll check that out let me see if dash of lash has debuted dude dash of lash season one send that to me

1:12:27here she is she's uh dip you talk about content actually she's been doing this for a while she made spaghetti and meatballs with norman smiley if this isn't aimed at dip what is okay she made a salmon philly cheesesteak with wendy chew when he choose mage she made seafood lasagna with the d 'angelo family what are your teas by the way speaking of mage and being from um evolve how about uh kendall gray getting some uh tv time on nxt there dip i'm worried kendall gray is not long for evolve good good for her god bless i know but listen but i hear what you're saying but keep in mind the conversation we just had though i know i know let's talk i mean i i'm ready i'm also i put swipe i do i this is what i want to see at wrestlemania i want to see penton ray phoenix versus swipe right for the wwe tag team championship which tag team championship i don't know one of them you're ready for swipe right on the big stage take it off of dragon lee and aj and give it the swipe right can i tell you what though speaking of uh the vanity project i gotta tell you man um jackson drake has gotten bigger and bigger and like looks like more and more of a legit world champion all the time i know it's like i know you love swipe right you're very into the gimmick and if you haven't been watching evolve you gotta watch swipe right they're a lot of fun but the the heavyweight champ on evolve jackson drake that kid is fantastic not to say something about jackson drake he's mage and his nicknames i'm such a fan especially doing commentary on that show.

1:14:07The more good nicknames, the better for things for me to say. The Carolina Reaper and Heartbreak Drake are such fantastic nicknames for a heel champion. I friggin' love it. Hey guys, we appreciate you being here every week. Shout out to Ben Queen, who is in for Zach today. Kelly Murphy, the great Emilio Sparks, as well. SGG, hope you're having a great time on vacation. And don't forget to get down with our Patreon, as we mentioned earlier. Patreon.com slash cheap Heat Live. Follow us, Cheap Heat Pod. Instagram, TikTok, we're on there now as well. And we've got a Patreon coming this weekend, and we'll see you guys next week.

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