Is Gunther vs Aldis Better Than His Cena Feud?

0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy, yeah. The major stick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The king of KG 24 seconds. A thousand percent confirmed. M-mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. M-m-m-m-m-m-mage. M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m. Male. Muzzer. Midge. It's still rooted. Bitch. Male. Muzzer. Bitch. It's still rooted. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh. Sweet, sweet Peter Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was Rapport. It was Rapport. It's professional wrestling. This week, we have the man, the myth, the legend.

1:13He is back. SGG, my God, we missed you. In the words of Eric Bischoff, I'm back and I'm better than ever.

1:26oh man are wait are you saying should we make the um should we make your new theme song the eric bischoff theme song that's what i'm thinking i'm back uh well welcome back uh but welcome sug you were missed the last couple of weeks here on uh cheap heat and i i don't know if you're aware of this but um there's some relatively big news uh around pro wrestling nation 24 7 have you have you heard anything by any time i have been hearing some chatter um and i'm what i'm wondering is if this episode will be the last time we we say the words pro wrestling nation 24 7 on this channel in regards to this show airing right now at this time slot which is not going anywhere well what what i'm hearing is that you know wwe radio starting monday july 27th is going to be the home of i'm glad you said what you said thank you for saying what needed to be said so starting this monday this channel that you're listening to us on right now live in your car wherever you are maybe you're listening on the app uh channel 156 on sirius xm will officially be WWE Radio.

2:49So thank you. Thank you. Listen, I don't want to say I did all of it because I did none of it, but I'm happy to be a part of it, and we're all excited that this is happening. Obviously, some of the biggest news is in addition to the fact that you will lose none of the show, and I know you guys have heard this already, but for the cheap heat crowd, you know, I want to make sure you guys hear it. Number one, you're not losing any of the shows that you already love and listen to every single week here on 156. That is not an issue. What you are gaining, though, is going to be WWE podcasts and maybe the most exciting thing to happen.

3:36Something that a lot of people, including myself, have wanted to see happen for a very long time. Live play-by-play of WWE in-ring wrestling will air right here on WWE radio, starting with SummerSlam. So it's an incredible time to be a fan of WWE, SGG. Yeah, it is. Like you said, that's something that we've all been wanting for a long time is the radio. I didn't understand why it wasn't happening. And I know it was something that they tried in the 90s. It's something that professional sports have been doing across the board the entire time. So I had always wanted it back, and I'm glad to have it back.

4:22Yeah, I never got to experience it. And, you know, particularly cool because, you know, you're getting it for PLEs. Like the idea that if you're running around, you know, SummerSlam is a two-night event. everyone's got you know summertime things going on and the way the internet now operates you don't want to miss out on what's happening and be behind well guess what you flip on channel 156 and you're gonna hear the sweet soothing sounds of vic joseph and booker t um very underrated commentary team by the way well depends who you ask s-u-g okay well i i've checking in with myself and i'm saying that they are very underrated yeah i i've i've always been a big fan obviously vick joseph well booker t is book i mean that book is yeah i mean he's he's an icon um and vick joseph though from a play-by-play standpoint just as good as it gets in the business um but anyways so that's the news that's happening next week All right, so when you come around on Monday, that's what you're going to get.

5:38I'm sure there'll be tons of exciting guests on Busted Open throughout the week, and then we'll all be in Minneapolis. Very exciting thing. So huge news. Congrats to everybody involved who helped pull this thing together. And next week, a new chapter. And for us, SGG, yet again, a new era, a new, new, new, new, new era. Yeah, I think we're a couple of new short, but yes, it is a new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new era for us. Yeah, so we're very, very excited about that. Now, SGG, you were gone for a couple of weeks. You were missed. You had trials, I suppose. Yes. Did you win? Were there dubs?

6:17It was the same trial. It's ongoing. It's not done yet. So we'll see. Like I said, it's ongoing. But I'm doing well. So you're feeling good overall about the case, but you don't have anything yet? Correct. Nothing yet, but I'm feeling overall good about the case. I can't express too much detail here, SGG, but I have a bit of a trial coming up on Monday. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it is – well, I'm not going to go into details, SGG, but I'll hint it to you by saying it's an arbitration. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. so that's happening next week so i'm gonna feel i'm gonna feel sort of uh sgg like so i'll keep you posted on that while you were gone sgg before we get into this week specifically while we were gone what were you hottest on oh man there's so much like that tag team match from saturday night's main event i was very high on i thought for sure because i'm an idiot that gunther and sammy had it in the bag and that they were going to find their way into the main event at SummerSlam, completely forgetting about Nick Aldis.

7:37And apparently Nick Aldis completely forgetting that he's a professional and that he's in management and that he's held to a higher standard. He got involved. So now it's going to be Gunther Nick Aldis at SummerSlam. We don't know what's going to happen with Sami. And that Cody CM Punk match is going to be the pure one-on-one that people have been waiting to see for a long time. now this uh this last week um this this card really took a lot more shape um we are now up to nine matches um we have live io we have oba brock we have roman seth we have penta chad we have punk cody we have the six-man tag the bloodline match um la night solo and royce keys versus the bloodline jacob jay and jimmy you have a five-way ladder match for the interim women's championship we have four competitors so far tiffany stratton in jade cargill in charlotte flair in nia jacks in so far um so still more tbd um and then we have gunther versus nick aldis as you just said that's official dan hausen versus dominic mysterio will settle their issues um so we're here now we're here we are just a few days away and how many how many more matches sgg do you believe we will get what is sitting there that's obvious that we might not be thinking of that will be on this card oh penta chad gable is on this card also right I said that.

9:25I said that. Okay. I was going to say, Chad Gable coming home with that Intercontinental Championship is right there for the taking. Is Sami Zayn really going to miss out on SummerSlam? It can't be. It can't. I don't think so. But there's nothing obvious either. His championship opportunity, that door is shut. Nick Aldis slammed it shut on him and Gunther. Well, and now Aldis has his thing. Gunther has his thing. obviously you know Cody has his thing can't be done for Sammy Zane

10:07can't be is there a no I mean well we have Gunther with Nick Aldis could Sammy find a way if we get the Cody turn that many of us are dreaming about could Sammy play a role in that

10:30I don't see I don't see how they connect those dots I don't I don't like that Sammy's just in the wind but I don't see how they connect those dots well all of us are just dust in the wind you know but not all of us were beloved world champion for nine days dust in the wind just as recently yeah that would be unfortunate if there's no spot for him and it's hard to think of exactly where that lands um also um trick is going to end up on this card he has to he has to and originally i would have thought it was carmelo hayes but are we going somewhere maybe with baron corbin like but trick's ending up on this card yeah no doubt now here's the other thing too um Go ahead.

11:22Big cast, right? They've been airing these vignettes. Maybe not end up on the card, but do we see him before? They said August 3rd. They said the 3rd, though. They promoted him for Monday. But promoting him for Monday doesn't mean that he cannot show up the weekend right before it all goes down on Monday. It's a two-night event. speaking of big cast you know who popped out at the very intimate uh rosenberg uh dipperstein birthday casual hang was it was his name enzo amore that is formerly formerly is that incorrect the real one the real one oh yes the real one the real one and yo man i had I had a really good time last Saturday and I'm guessing Dizza brought Enzo.

12:16That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. That would be my guess. By the way, Enzo is my dude, man. I know Enzo, there are a lot of people with mixed feelings about Enzo and controversial. He can be a lightning rod of a figure, SGG, it feels like in pro wrestling. New Jersey Italian, man. They like sushi. Love it or you hate it. that's really all what it is man they think you would think that at times would be like pizza everybody loves it but uh no it's the new jersey part yeah it's the new jersey part um i mean look just look at live yeah just look at gianna daddio she's trouble she's trouble trouble bro trouble trouble and we'll get to uh to some of the unreal as well in just a bit but yeah um either Emilio or Dizza maybe was the person who gave uh but listen but Enzo's my dude I just haven't seen him in years so it was great to see Enzo I didn't ask him whether or not you know I've said this and again I don't want to get myself in trouble I don't know what sort of corporate relationships or issues there could be but SGG for my money even though Big Cass is is obviously a very capable man for my money if i'm gonna have big cast in wwe one day at some point not too far down the road i'd love to see enzo there yeah same i mean they were just very very good together very good together and like i said you know summer slam we got a lot of big returns at summer slam enzo could pop out at summer slam see now you're going crazy now you're then big cast comes out on Monday and then they reunite on Monday I mean you never know anything can happen in world wrestling entertainment that is correct including things like play by play right here on the soon to be WWE radio and speaking of which we're going to have the man who I just mentioned Vic Joseph is going to jump on with us after the break I want to give him his public congratulations on this big moment in his broadcast career.

14:30So we'll talk to Vic Joseph after this break. We'll take a quick one. We'll also talk to you guys at 877-344-4893. We got to get into the final segment from Raw this week, plus the very interesting Seth Solo-Jacob segment. There's a lot of different things to get to. We'll do it all here today, right here on Cheap Heat Live for the last time on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Their struggle was rooted in championship dreams. This title right here means the world to me. Dreams do come true. But their battles quickly became personal. The animosity completely running over between these two men. Now at WWE SummerSlam, world heavyweight champion Jeff Hardy and CM Punk go more extreme than ever before.

15:23Tables, ladders, and chairs. Oh my God! The charismatic daredevil Jeff Hardy defends his championship against the straight-edge superstar CM Punk in a tables, ladders, and chairs match. I am hurt, but I am here. Nothing will stop me. I will endure the pain and defend my championship at SummerSlam. Punk, you got a move. WWE SummerSlam, live this Sunday on pay-per-view. Go to WWE.com to find out how to order WWE SummerSlam in your area right now. As of Monday, no longer Pro Wrestling Nation, we will be talking about WWE Radio. A very, very exciting time indeed. And maybe the most exciting thing that's going to happen is going to be live play-by-play of PLEs and all kinds of in-ring action.

16:28This is something that if you were a wrestling nerd and a radio nerd like myself, you have been dreaming about. And the play-by-play man tapped to do this is none other than our good buddy, the great Vic Joseph. Vic, congratulations. We wanted to bring you on to say congrats. We appreciate you. and how are you feeling, my friend? Well, I appreciate you guys having me on. Zach, congratulations to you guys too for also being part of WB Radio starting on Monday. I'm over the moon. I'm excited to be doing a, and Peter, you'll get when I say this, there aren't many firsts anymore in this industry. And to be able to be part of the first premium live event on WB Radio, bringing a new side to things, it's really exciting.

17:15It's also, it's a huge honor, and I'm very, it's hard to put into words. You kind of get humbled when you get that phone call to B-Tab to do something like this. And the pressure's on now, and for Booker and I, we're excited. And if you think Booker is wild on Tuesdays, there's going to be no leash now on Booker T come SummerSlam. Oh, you know what? You know, I didn't even cross my mind. I mean, we're on serious. I mean, technically, technically, Book could just start dropping F-bombs. We don't know what's going to happen every PL evening. Flying filth? He's, I can reel him in a little bit on Tuesdays because we have some boundaries we have to stay within.

17:55But right now, Booker's looking forward to a while and out, as they would say, come SummerSlam. Now, you are a man, Vic, a jack of all trades when it comes to broadcasting. You've done a lot in sports. You've done radio. You've done television. obviously as you know play by play for television is significantly different than play by play for radio and as you just said this is a first there is not a playbook um you obviously have the rolodex you know you could call uh jim ross you could call michael cole you could call all of the greats i know jr did it very briefly but there's really not anyone who spent a lot of time doing this have you thought about how things may be different calling wrestling on radio versus television i have i actually was talking to my mother-in-law about it yesterday i'm in um dexter with mckenzie and the kids and having a little uh you know summer this is really our summer is this weekend because now business picks up for me it picks up for her with everything she's got going on too.

19:05And they said, well, isn't that going to be different? I go, yeah, it's going to be different. And I go back to a couple of things that I learned early on in broadcasting was I was always told the best television broadcasters came from radio. And it took me a couple of years to realize what that meant from the gentleman who told me that. And it's because you learn how to be so descriptive on radio that once you go on television, boom, it's easy you know you already have your descriptors and things down and i have i have thought about that i actually went back and started watching over the last 12 hours or so some old videos so to speak of because you're right they did do it very briefly and tried to listen to what they were doing they called it as if it was tv peter if you go back and actually listen to it so i've taken the role of the last um day or so when you get some of the information and he started getting a heads up of, I love to listen to baseball games.

20:05I love to watch them, but I listen to them through the radio feed. And so to hear how they're telling all these stories, it just has to be done in a different way. But yeah, you're talking about what's Oba wearing in the ring? Something you don't do on television. What's Brock Lesnar wearing? What's Randy wearing? Describing the jacket. And then I can get more into play-by-play. One of the things you talk about the Rolodex, Joe Tessitore has always told me is Joe Tessitore has said, when it comes to move to move with what we do, when you get into the late stages of the matches and Peter, you and I have worked on commentary together.

20:40When you get in the late stages of matches, being able to describe the uppercuts and this and that. And so I think being able to be more descriptive is what I'm starting to dive into right now, physically for the moves, not necessarily the story. Because, because what makes a great, you know, one of the, We've all watched Michael Cole evolve as a commentator and become the goat that he's become. And now there can be moments where you're on TV, you're watching on television, you have a great broadcaster. They can get comfortable laying out because you have the images. But late in the match, you know, if you were to go back to moments in history, you know, you picture Hulk Hogan hulking up against Andre.

21:25Mm-hmm. Gorilla's not really describing that much there, whereas in radio, you'd have to be describing, oh, you know, Hogan's had enough. He's starting to wag that finger. You've got to actually call these things out. So it's going to be really fun to watch you not only have to, not only try to keep Booker somehow legally on the air, but also calling these matches. It's going to be a treatment. I'm looking forward to that challenge, And, you know, if you have any ideas, Peter, shoot me a text because I'm all ears on how different ways to make this work. But I'm a big believer in dates and time.

22:05And it's just odd. I looked at my wife yesterday and I said, holy crap, it's 2026. And she said, yeah, all year it has been. I'm like, what do you go? I went to SummerSlam 1996. It was in Cleveland. So 30 years to the event, being able to be tabbed for this is something that's very meaningful to me. I'm very excited to tap back into that radio broadcast side. The only downfall so far is LeBron going to the 76ers, but I think I can move past that. That's been the downfall for the day. But being able to jump in on this man, I think it's going to be a wild ride with Booker because Booker is going to be unhinged.

22:45I think he's going to slip about nine times, and I'm just going to look at him and not know what to do. And I think we're going to have a lot of fun. It's going to be a moment, man. It's going to be a really cool, really cool moment because I think there's a lot of people out there that watch sports but listen to the radio still, and I think this is going to be a different take on it. Because now, Peter, I mean, if you're in your car and you're like, damn it, I'm going to miss SummerSlam. You're like, no, I don't have to. I can listen to the action while I'm driving. It's so cool. I mean, think about all the grown-ups.

23:15You know, listen, wrestling fans, as we know, they're certainly kids. But, man, it's a lot of adults watching pro wrestling. And when you've got to go handle business on a weekend night because the wife says you've got to run out and go do XYZ. Or the husband says, hey, babe, can you do blank? To know now that you can get in the car, turn on 156, and listen so you don't miss a beat. Because you don't want to get behind and have things spoiled on the internet. You know, you don't want to look on all of a sudden and see on WWE Instagram, there's Liv Morgan celebrating. you want to get to hear it happen you get to listen so it's going to be an incredible opportunity sgg what do you what do you what do you think my biggest challenge is going to be peter is it going to be describing the action that's a great question um i think it's going to be laying out because i'm so used to laying out when something happens i'm gonna have to keep talking well but the thing it's it's going to be i think the balance because like you're still going to have to learn when you can lay out right because like chanting is still going to play I gotta do it you gotta let the chance you gotta let the you know let's go Cena Cena sucks if you will or the let's go Roman Rollins sucks whatever it is you gotta let those things still happen so I think for you it's just going to be learning what that feel is and obviously you're you know immensely trusted by the company so you're going to get time to figure that out but um that's all I think frankly I don't think you're going to have a ton of challenges I think it's going to be an absolute ball I'm looking forward to oh sorry I know I cut off a question I apologize SGG go ahead I'm sorry I was going to echo what you guys were saying I'm excited to get in and listen because I spend a lot of time driving so knowing that I can listen safely and not try to fumble on the phone and get a video of what's happening on WWE television during the PLE that's great for me yeah no this is going to be this is going to be a cool thing for for all of us.

25:09Vic, congrats, man. I will see you in Minneapolis. I look forward to it. Welcome to the station. Super stoked to have you. Yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate the time. I will see you at SummerSlam. And this is something that for anyone that is listening that may be going, oh, I'm telling you guys, it's going to be unbelievable. It's going to be fun. And Booker and I are already coming up with different concepts to make this feel different for all of you that are going to listen. Thank you, Vic. Congrats, bro. Thanks, man. Talk to you guys later. See you this weekend. There he is. Next weekend.

25:40Bye. Great Vic Joseph, and he got to it. We didn't even get to get to the LeBron of it all, SGG. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to take a quick break right now. Come back on the other side. SGG is in a tough spot. Okay. Number one, I want to say I'm so glad Zach is not here today. Number two, I can't wait to hear what SGG has to say. and then we will get into everything that happened this week in the world of wrestling and talk to you guys a lot in hour two. Shouts to Vic Joseph for making time. We'll be right back, right here. She Pete Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7.

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27:30now sgg um this week did you get a full watch of monday night raw and what did you think of seth segment um obviously roman was not on tv this week so they had to come up with something else what did you think of what we got from seth rollins with solo this week i think seth is not using his brain there um i think seth should have taken solo up on his very very generous offer to be his shield to to give seth insight into the bloodline because when seth made that offer to cody let's be real he was talking about a roman reigns that he did not know anymore a roman reigns that possibly did not exist in that moment when he said i will be your shield and protect you from roman reigns solo is making an even better offer because solo was in the bloodline solo was the enforcer solo knows the plans and the backup plans and seth is going in it alone which is not smart for the guy who was supposedly the brains of the operation with the shield the the brains of the vision the architect the guy with the master plan it's a dumb plan to go up against Roman even if Roman's on this crusade to prove that he can win championship matches by himself because his family is showing that they will do what it takes to protect him regardless we don't know yet that Seth Rollins is going at this alone we don't but I mean he didn't give he didn't give Solo an answer I mean Solo put his hands on him things went a little crazy but but he didn't he didn't give an answer and when they came out of that segment you know Cole and Corey kind of like debated what would happen so it wasn't like clear cut what it's going to be I do like though Solo getting back to a meaningful position on television it the last month has been very good for Solo Sokoa in my opinion I've been saying this for even longer than that Solo's a top guy man Solo is there no he doesn't have the championship credentials commercials even in terms of his career it's not as long as seth's been it's not as long as roman's it's not you know longevity wise it's not really there but in terms of like entertainment value that you get out of him being able to put him in any spot some of the ways that he's shined that other main eventers have shined to be able to be like i can be serious badass i can be comedy i can be the promo guy that drives your for your story forward i can be the guy that says nothing and still drives the story for solo's checking all the boxes i don't know why people are so surprised that he's he's smacking it out of the park like this he always has no and for me i'm just happy to see him getting the opportunity again and being in a position where it can happen and i and i think the six-man tag is very old school i i'd love the old school of this six-man tag like hey how do we do something here that works around the main event but is not the main event um particularly if you don't have access to roman on television every week um now sug i did i did tease it you know you you you have been a little bit shall i say flimsy what when it comes to your sports fandom um a lot of question marks you have planted your flag firmly with the world champion new york knicks and said you know hey while you may be an eagles fan you never wavered and you are with the knicks today the news comes out and our producer zach is probably in a hospital somewhere and say an asylum as we speak the news has come out LeBron James is headed to the city of brotherly love to join Jalen Brown with the 76ers are you standing firm with your New York Knicks no leaning towards well I do live here and he's a legend and this is crazy and you know Philly, just like the Knicks, how long has it been for Philadelphia?

31:52What year, 83? It's been a while. I think it's 83, I think. So you tell me, SGG, 83 was the last one. If that city starts getting on fire because that team is moving, are you locked in with your New York Knicks? I'm locking in with the Knicks as of today. I'm locking in. Now, will I be upset if Philly wins a championship? No, I won't be upset. I love the energy around cities winning championships. It's followed me all my life. The Yankees, the Giants, you know. Now the Knicks are getting involved. The Eagles won two Super Bowls since I've been here. I love a good championship celebration. I can't help it if I'm good luck to some of these cities.

32:42So if LeBron wants to join me over here and also do great things in Philly, I won't be mad at it. But he's going to have to actually do it for me to actually get the love. But are you going to be cheering for him? No. Okay. No. All right. No. Because let's be honest. I mean, I've been a LeBron hater for most of his career. there's you know after a while i started to become a lebron respecter because you kind of have to but for most of his career i've been a hater and the source of that hate i'll admit is because of the decision to not go to the new york knicks but then to not just not go to the knicks but to take his talents to south beach oh man the the arch rival of the knicks like i grew up on knicks and heat swinging hands like like wars not just over basketball but like literally punches being thrown so for him to go to the heat that was a personal insult um but again it's lebron james so you gotta you gotta respect you gotta respect the level of talent now we we spent a lot of time today talking about the fact that wwe radio is going to have ple's on on the radio which is going to be amazing.

34:04However, on top of that, you are also going to have WWE audio on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Fridays. So you are also going to be able to get the TV feed of Raw, NXT, and SmackDown live every week. followed by busted open after dark so you can now hear monday night raw nxt and friday night smackdown each week on wwe radio channel 156 starting next week that is crazy that is crazy i didn't realize that we were going to get raw smackdown and nxt in addition to to the ple's well and not only that but like for example not only will you have SummerSlam with Vic Joseph and Booker T calling it but you're gonna have Dave LaGreca doing pre-show right here on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 soon to be WWE radio as well and something that you didn't bring up for the people who enjoy the podcasts you can catch them here as well right you're gonna get Cody Rhodes, what do you want to talk about?

35:20You're going to get Stephanie McMahon's What's Your Story, Undertaker's Six Feet Under, the WWE Now Raw Recap with Sam and Megan. It's going to be crazy, man. You're going to get everything there. Plus, of course, WWE Superstars nonstop on the channel. So it's going to be a happening. And that all begins next week. Can I throw in some hate real quick, though? Yeah, please. We love that. I have to throw in some hate. Cody it actually disgusts me how good Cody has got at the like podcast host slash interviewer on what do you want to talk about it's I don't know where this came from but it's actually disgustingly he's disgustingly good at it and I hate how good he is at it because like they announced it and I'm like okay sure we're gonna let Cody interview some folks and he does the damn thing with these interviews and so it sounds like a compliment but no i i'm i'm 100 % hating because he i i don't have that he has it i i respect this hate sg thank you sometimes people so yeah sometimes people need to be honest about the hate and not fight it no i never would and he he has other talents he doesn't need also this talent but he is good at it and now he's going to be right here on the channel i have to welcome him in as a serious xm family but i secretly i hate it you know he's a he's a talented man there's no question about it so you can get all those podcasts here as well man lebron james really with a quite the tweet storm to explain what has happened here what are the highlights him lying saying he was pretty sure he played his last game at the end of last year bro it never felt like that was your last game not even I'm not believing you even a little bit I'm not saying you didn't cross your mind I'm not saying he didn't think about retiring but no one believes that you truly in your heart of hearts thought it was the end no not for a second uh so that's the main highlight and then he goes on to say this is my last decision I'm not going for money I'm not going for family what am I really playing for at this point I still want to sacrifice I still want to work I still want to grind I still want to compete to win and have a chance at the feeling of winning another championship I believe I can help make the Philadelphia 76ers a championship team and I am excited to energize a new fan base and start this incredible journey one last time thank you LA Miami I'll forever love and Northeast Ohio will always be home I think I think I think I think SG is in I mean I think it just took a couple of good tweets no i i'm in for the gold it takes a championship all right so so if they win a championship would you consider like jumping on board there for the finals if they win a championship like if they're if they if they have the opportunity let's say they beat the knicks no that's just that's i can't do that they beat the knicks on the way to the championship can't do that now if kelly make note of this please just please write this down if they get there without beating the knicks then the door is open i'm not is it how wide is it open is it cracked or is it like wide open i don't know we'll have to see when that time comes if that time comes but if they beat the knicks which i don't i don't believe what happened anyway but if they do i'm i'm i'm snoop dog i'm i'm west side west side i can't i can't do that i i you know what we we're gonna have to see we're gonna have to see i don't think i don't know that as much as i respect leban i don't know that he'll give us the opportunity could be undertaker versus goldberg in saudi arabia could be undertaker versus aj styles boneyard match we don't know By the way, I love the Boneyard match.

39:52I did, too. We don't know. Now, listen, ladies and gentlemen, I have to tell you, if you are listening to us right now, up down Minneapolis is the spot. One week from today, 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Central Time. 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Central Time. that's in Minneapolis. My man, Ted, is having an insane, insane pop-up. Some of the best wrestling merch, vintage merch I have ever seen. Plus, I will be there on the early side as well. We have a special start time for Cheap Heat next week too, so I got to get you the special start time. I got to give you more information. Plus, I have a hip-hop take, SGG, related to pro wrestling that I need your feedback on.

40:50It's a comp I need your feedback on. We got a whole hour, and we're going to talk to you guys as well next. It's Cheap Heat Live for the last time on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. He was taken away in his prime and walked where no other man has been. Now, he has returned.

41:15Monday night, August 29th, Domino's Pizza Delivers Summer Slam, a live World Wrestling Federation pay-per-view event. So hot, it's scary. I will not rest in peace. Now, SGG, I promised a hip-hop and wrestling related question. Are you ready to hear what the question is? I have been waiting the entire break. We went out to Slam Bionics. We came back, Check the Rhyme by Tribe, Classics. The mood has been set. By the way, I wonder if in the new, new, new, new, new era of Cheap Heat, we change our playout music from Slam to something else. It's a little on the nose, isn't it? But hasn't it been the whole time, right?

42:05I mean, the listeners who followed us from just the era, right, the beginning through all the new new new new new they know that at one time that was the theme song to the show i forgot about that honestly you see i forgot i mean come on that the people who taken this ride with us that's going to bring us now to wwe radio starting next week special start time which uh you'll give the more details about that special start time of uh 2 p.m eastern time next week okay that's right but they know they they they've been so slam is staying i'm sorry i i don't wait all right i know this is cheap heat with peter rosenberg but you're putting your foot down yeah this is a decision that i'm gonna have to make for a slam is staying okay i'm sorry i appreciate that wow so sumo says when i first started listening to cheap heat in the grant land days slam was how it started there we go

43:12did we start it from the very beginning like the

43:19we did yeah wow all right so here's the hip-hop question it's not even a question it's a it's a it's a statement and i want your thoughts okay so speaking of ted wrestling for sale okay and i told you guys you got to come out in minneapolis it's going to be insane he always has ridiculous merch too like

43:44you will walk by and see something and think to yourself I have never seen this before and then you will need to have it and then you'll need to have your best offer ready because Ted's a great guy he'll negotiate with you no that's true it's OBO for a reason yeah but I gotta tell you guys y 'all have to come out because here's why this is very important um that shirt that you're wearing the Bret Hart vintage is that a Ted I don't know I've had this for so long it's hard to say but let me just say this I need y 'all to come out and spend money because Ted has two items I need and I need him to do well enough that the payment he gives me for my participation are these two shirts I need both they're two of my all-time needs and i need them and you're not we're not going to tell you what they are because there's not a snowball's chance that you're going to get to the pop-up and then say that you need them and i'll bid rosenberg we're not gonna let that happen so it's gonna stay it's gonna stay top secret yeah and and bid is a key word i need these discounted because these things are expensive yeah because we can we could be outbid if you do that these these needs that i have are are pricey these are pricey but anyway so i thought about ted yesterday because ted is someone who really enjoys east coast hip-hop but is from la and and has a lot of leanings obviously from his la roots to west coast hip-hop and i asked him sgg if he was a fan of the Biggie Freestyle Real Ends Do Real Things.

45:36Are you familiar? I am. Over all the West Coast beats. West Coast beats, yep. And it's a classic. It's maybe my favorite unofficial Biggie record. I played it last night on Shade 45. I love it. Now, that being said, Ted is an insane person, and he's like Rain Man. Like he has these declarations about stuff that are like, you're like, how did you think of this? So I'm like, Hey, do you like this song? He goes, yes, but not a top 100 song. I was like, I don't even know what you're saying. I know 100, 100, 100 hip hop songs. Okay. And I go, all right, fine. And he goes, you know, there's just so many great things in that era.

46:20For example, there are six songs. I like better on get in where you fit in by too short. Okay. Now, I don't want to cause any problems in the yay area, okay? And I certainly don't want any problems with the great too short, who I admire.

46:44You comparing too short to Biggie

46:51is like comparing i'm gonna come up with a current comp and i want your thoughts okay because you like six songs better on an album but like but now as a result what you're doing is you're you're creating a comp whether you like it or not you're doing it now you're saying i like a two short song better than a biggie song I would argue it's you could argue that it's impossible for a two short song to be better than a Biggie song it's just impossible yeah the only two short song that you could put on par with a Biggie song is the Biggie song that features two short all life after death the world is filled that's the one that you could put on par but other than that songs that they are not on together what are we doing here by the way you're not comparing that one the world is filled is actually i think one of the weaker songs on life after death it is and i like it and two shorts fun on it yeah who who who do you think is the most gifted in ring talent think about this for a second the most gifted in wwe who is the most technical Schmechnical five star in Japan wrestler on the roster as we speak so when you frame it like that you're obviously prioritizing a certain style of wrestling that lends itself to a handful of people and I gotta say my official answer to this question the most the most gifted wrestler it comes down there's two people pinging in my head and i i'm bouncing between sammy zane and seth rollins okay and i think i'm gonna choose seth let's just choose seth rollins because it's the right thing to do but sammy's close though and i was gonna say sammy but seth rollins is the right thing to do just Seth can do more I think Seth can do more I don't think Seth can do more than Sammy I just think Seth he has done more because his style and his character lends itself to that at the moment because Sammy's done things I've never seen Seth do but Seth has done things that I think Sammy can do even though I've never seen Sammy do it either like when Sammy used to go do that torpedo DDT where he would go through the ring post and catch his opponent on the other side hit that ddt that's insane i don't know if he can still do it or what yeah that by the way that was insane but i mean can sammy can sammy do the the splash the way seth can splash i believe i believe in my heart that he can but you're asking a valid question okay so but here's the point i'm I'm gonna go Seth Rollins.

49:58Comparing too short to Biggie is like comparing Big John Studd to Seth Rollins. Listen, they're both great at what they did and did legendary things and became iconic in different ways. But the art of Biggie like versus the art that too short made. It's just, I, by the way, if you want to weigh in on this eight, seven, seven, three, four, four, four, nine, three. Then he tried to come back to me and go and make a comp for too short being CM punk because of like his, all right, man. I said, your shirts, Ted, so just sell your, no, no, listen, no one sells better shirts. No, Ted, no one sells better shirts than you.

50:55you're the vintage fucking master my guy no one is seeing you with the vintage but no and i love too short and i shouldn't even have to do this but it's a different thing cm punk is too short what was his basis for that about about too short starting out as indie no bro no no you're going back to too short in 1982 yeah it's it the comp doesn't work and no and there are not and oh by the way i went through get it where you fit in today almost the whole thing there aren't six good joints on the whole thing what are you talking about like this is no listen there are rhymers in the bay just so everyone's clear like there are straight up bay area just lyrical miracle rappers and then you have people like too short who were not trying to be that and were legendary because of a variety of other reasons but you can't put that person against someone who is as capable of the lyrical miracle that biggie was you can't all right let's let's move on i i think i think we've heard enough people and the cm punk thing you know cm punk my my whole thing is with cm punk and daniel bryan i always compare them to most def and talib kwali now see that's a good that's a good one that's a good one cm punk you could even this now he might he might hate me for making this comparison and rightfully so but just in terms of them being very talented but also being lightning rods wow he would probably hate you for that but he might also love you for that chicago chicago lightning rods yeah yeah yeah personalities that can be a little bit challenging for certain people at certain times now curated cults of personality yes now just to be clear now just to be clear the things that kanye west says could not be further from the ideals that cm punk holds and that is why i had to preface that because and look if he wants if punk wants to punch me in the face i'll take it because it's a very harsh comparison but just surface level checking random boxes i think it might apply now sjj i asked a question last week on the show that i'm excited to ask you roman reigns versus seth rollins is it a given to you that this time around roman reigns beats seth rollins yes it is and here's why seth rollins has it's the kiss of death in wrestling whenever a wrestler utters these words you've never beaten me.

54:11Yes it's fact but I think about when Batista said it to Triple H and then he lost to Triple H. I think about when Shawn Michaels said it to The Undertaker and then he lost and then he lost again the next year in the rematch. I think about, I believe Rhea said to EO Ross. Whenever this comes up and the person says and you've never beaten me and you never will, that ends up being the last time that they get to say that statement. And Seth, he said it. And granted, it wasn't correct because in a high stakes match, yes, Roman Reigns has never beaten Seth Rollins. Roman has a one-on-one victory against Seth at like a Monday Night Raw.

55:01But we're talking championship on the line. That's right. Pay-per-view, brightest lights. Seth is correct. But the kiss of death, man, he did it. He spoke those words that no wrestler has come back from. I don't think he will.

55:21So this is it? This is it. I think so. We've come to the end of the line. And here's my question. If you are correct and Roman beats Seth, what is next? Is that the end of Roman Seth as we know it? No. Listen, they can always go back to this and they always do, right? And the beauty of it is that when they go back to it, and we're seeing this play out right now, this just becomes another chapter in the epic story. now this would be the shortest chapter right because seth just approached him a couple weeks ago they go to summer slam whatever happens happens and if they move on fine but every chapter it just gets better in terms of this story they're gonna they can do this forever that that push and pull they can go back to it at any point i know some people are thinking maybe seth take the title and they ride this out to mania i don't see that happening especially with um a big obafemi size question mark looming over both championships that still has to be decided um but this is something that i think they can go back to anytime regardless of who wins except that i think that roman is going to be the one that that wins this time and and do you and you don't think it'll continue in the immediate i don't i don't especially if it's something people want to see for mania it doesn't have to so if it so if roman goes over then where do we go with seth

56:58honestly i don't know i don't know

57:04which is not what people want to hear from me i am the oracle but the crystal you're supposed to be the oracle the crystal ball is a little hazy or honestly on what happens with seth or roman after this. But I will say, actually, because after SummerSlam, the next big PLE, not to say that the other ones aren't, but one of the big four is Survivor Series. And I am sort of feeling like we're gonna get Seth Rollins with LA Knight, Solo Sokoa, and maybe Royce Keys in a can-they-coexist kind of team. against a fully formed strong formidable bloodline i feel like that's shaping up so why are you doing this why are you doing what happened what do you mean why that's like why are you why are you getting our hopes up that we're gonna have a proper survivor series match come on sgg you know it's gonna be a lammer we always it'll be war games it'll be work but they're gonna build to it they could do it as a proper survivor series match they could but i think they already announced that it would be war games but i think if i had to look in that crystal ball i think that's how the teams are going to shape out whether it's four on four they could do that they could do five on five and then i don't know who would fill out the spots on either sides but i think those are the teams that i'm seeing for the war games here here as we're watching unreal which it's it's fascinating for all the criticizing we do of everything that happens what unreal reminds you is how good this group generally is at finding the next things for people i would love your thoughts 877-344-4893 877-344-4893 when you look at the big names on this SummerSlam card.

59:00Give me some way in the future predictions. Like WrestleMania season next year, because now we're sitting here in July, August, September, October, November, December, January, February, March. We're eight and a half months away still. I know a lot of you think it'll be Oba and Roman. Okay, sure. Besides that, though, where's Cody? Where's Punk? Where's Seth? where's LA Knight? Where's Gunther? Who obviously, I think in a big way, and it's interesting, I just watched the Unreal episode about Cena and Gunther. And really, even though the AJ retirement thing was cool, SUG, I think this is the most intriguing Gunther thing we've had since John Cena.

59:51I agree. I agree. And shout out to Nick Aldis because people have been waiting for him to take off the tie. I didn't see it happening this way, but people are hooked on it. It's interesting. All right, some predictions. Where are things going? We're sitting here now one week out from SummerSlam, and things are looking pretty good at the top of the card, but where are things going to be going? Let's get started in O-Town. Good old Orlando. Sam, what's happening, my guy? Hey, how are you? I think Solo Sokoa is going to do his part in that three-way tag team just to swerve everybody and at the end of the night he's going to cost Seth Rollins the title and then the bloodline is going to be stronger than ever with everybody involved moving into mania where eventually Oba is going to take the title in Saudi Arabia.

1:00:51What do you think, SGJ? I don't see Solo rejoining the bloodline I mean I don't the hints are not he snuck up on Jimmy thumbed him in the throat Jay same thing Jacob hasn't put hands on him yet he still has animosity towards Roman the Solo hate is really is really there I don't see him just flipping at SummerSlam and joining back and then falling in line and then what is he second fiddle to jacob now in terms of the enforcer he's gonna fall in line with roman reigns again after feuding for the ulafala all that time i don't see solo going back home not yet well what do you think happens though specifically this week though with solo where do you think solo ends up playing a role right like i think he has to i think he has to But I think that the role Solo is going to end up playing is he inadvertently calls Seth Rollins, right?

1:01:53Because Solo's been popping up on all the Bloodline members. He has yet to pop up on Roman Reigns. He might see SummerSlam as his opportunity, which would be the thing that gets the other Bloodline members involved. Because they have been staying out also, right? They didn't interfere in any of Roman's defenses so far. They get involved. They're outnumbered. Seth goes down. and he played him solo. And then they have to have this uneasy alliance going into war games because they still hate Roman Reigns. And he's still the champion. And they still want to do something about it. Let's keep it moving and talk to good old buddy George on Long Island.

1:02:35What's up, George? Hey, what's going on, guys? All right, so looking into the future, I've only seen the first two episodes of Long Island. and in watching the second episode, I now see why they keep calling Braun Breaker the future. I didn't see it in the beginning all throughout the TV. To me, I always thought Dom was going to be the bigger star of the two. I can definitely see a world where we get a face Braun Breaker winning money in the bank and maybe a heel Cody Rhodes putting him over. I think Brinker doesn't need the money in the bank, but he could at least win it and tell them, hey, as a babyface, I'm calling my shot.

1:03:25Cody, mania, I take the title from you. You got to believe the Saudi prince has enough money. He's going to find a way for Rock and Roman to be a thing. I can't get that out of my mind. Not that I want to see it, but if it's going to happen, it's in Saudi. and then I really think we're going to start seeing the rise of people like Austin Theory and Logan Paul. I do think the vision breaks up fairly soon and those are the two guys who I think are going to get elevated to the next level. That's basically all I got. Last thing, Pete, we need new cheap heat merch. All right. Last week I was in Vegas.

1:04:02I was down on my money. I had maybe a little bit too much to drink. I opened up Instagram and the first thing I see is the new ELR shirt. No money to invest. I have no money to invest. I had to buy the shirt. I bought the shirt. So now I need more. Damn. Damn. We're letting you down. We're letting you down, bro. Yeah, so help me out with that. It is time. It's been a while, I guess. Thank you for the call, man. We appreciate you, George. I guess we did the Rocky Forever shirts, of which I've still heard. Actually, there's like three people I still owe shirts to. so I can't do a new shirt until I get those people their shirt Rocky passed away March 7th of a year prior so you think we came with those shirts for what summer Mania?

1:04:54Mania yeah because we were wearing them at the Mania heat and greet oh yeah we wore them to the Mania heat and greet so we passed on March 7th and that was Vegas Mania um right so we like like third week of april it was already mania had already gotten a bit later by then right yeah i think it was the 20th yeah about about six weeks later yeah um all right we we are due we got to think about that well now it's going to be a new you know wwe radio era shirt maybe they'll finally maybe we can finally do the bloodline shirt i know i i think about that shirt all the time the the band the band shirt and hope yeah like you said maybe they still sell do they still sell that shirt the bloodline shirt no oh it's such a classic uh let's go to bill good old bill in the 416 what up bill hey there guys um i was thinking about with Saudi i mean obviously Sammy Zane's gotta be prominent in it but i don't think you can really go back to him winning a belt again they've already done that so i'm thinking this might be a thing where KO has come back and might be trying to be the voice of reason for Sammy and maybe by mania time they have a match and they reconcile finally and that's the feel good moment that you give the Saudi audience what do you think?

1:06:39SGJ what do you think? I don't hate that I feel like KO and Sammy though they need to be back together and I would like to see it in a situation where KO is supporting Sammy I was expecting it to happen right around this SummerSlam build um hasn't happened yet but I like that

1:07:02yeah I would love I would love to see that I don't know what you know what it looks like or what KO could actually do but that would that would really be cool and I and I guess you're right Saudi given that Saudi has really sort of become you know home from a fan standpoint for although wouldn't Canada be the real place to do with those two SG yeah that's true if you throw KO in the mix Canada is a good place to do it now you got both of them like I don't know if you're gonna have it be a KO Sammy thing as loved as he is in Saudi I think you kind of got to do that in canada yeah respectfully um we're trying to look into the future and think about where we're going to be because that is the one thing i was like really taken aback by when i watch unreal is how good they are at just continuing to keep this thing going and again i know that we're all super critical of everything it's what we do as wrestling fans but when you really think about how hard it is to continue to roll and they do it you know over and over again injury no problem it like keeps happening it's it's it's pretty incredible it is and what just from that first episode what's funny to me about unreal is how much like you said it's wwe produced we are 100 % getting worked they've told us time and time again that their business is storytelling it's just funny how much we see something and the fans collectively get upset and us being upset about the thing was part of the plan we are on the string that has been pulled yeah I don't know if you know this this is what they do they do it well and they do it really really well i'll also say this i mean i really they do a pretty good job in the cena episode of of acknowledging that fans were not happy um with the way things went and and they do in fact really get into that which i appreciate they obviously don't show you everything but triple h clearly acknowledges on unreal that a A lot of people were not necessarily pleased.

1:09:44And they show the crowd reaction. They show the post show for a moment when people were losing it. Yeah. But I still maintain after watching it again. I will say watching Cena talk about it gave me some more appreciation. He's good at doing it, at doing that. But I will also say, SGG, when I saw it again, And his smile is still not enough of a smile for it to work. I love him, but it just wasn't. Can we get Cena on the program under the WWE radio banner? I feel like. I would love that. I feel like that's something that needs to happen. I had a great run in with Cena last week. I saw that. Fanatics Fest.

1:10:33I saw him at Fanatics Fest. Yeah. We had a great conversation about money to invest. Did you really? We did. Who brought up the conversation? He did. He heard about the money to invest? He said, I saw John Cena and he said, I saw you on the internet. Oh, no. Arguing with someone about investment. And he said, I just want you to know how much I related to everything you said. okay i think john cena may have said that he felt seen now see you you mentioned slam being too on the nose that was on the nose but i i really think he actually said that he felt seen maybe for the first time because he he related to not being a risky investor sure all for me i just could not believe that you know it the thing that had happened had gone so far my argument with my co-host ebro went so far that john cena saw it he's not exactly dialed into to you know every random internet thing so i was i was taking it back 877-344-4893 three where do you see the names at the top of the card by the time we get to wrestlemania season let's go to jay in iowa who wants to talk about the future of cody roads what do you got jay hey guys a long time first time all the way from the back of the day of maker of shoes i'm a peak guy what up wow and uh also oddly enough i i was used to be a teacher and i was Seth Rollins slash Kobe Lopez teacher so I'm also dip a J's so I want to talk to you guys yeah so what I want to talk to you guys about is the possibility this double main event in a heel turn by Cody Rhodes all right let's look at things like history doesn't repeat itself it rhymes we're 30 years plus out of the outsiders in the BO what if there's some type of weird exchange back and forth with Cody and CM Punk and also Seth and Roman but LA Knights involved and we get an L.A.

1:12:57Nightmare faction organization. It's all about kind of like the outsiders. So hear me out here. I'm still not done. No, no, you're cooking. Go ahead. Yeah. Cody says things like, you guys talk about family. You guys talk about this. CM Punk, I'm not your little brother. I got an older brother. You guys made him gold dust. You put my father in polka dots. You made me walk away. I'm an outsider. Same thing. L.A. Night, you're an outsider. Then he pulls in his tag team big cast they pushed you aside and guess what kind of like they did with uh xbox you run to your friends and then you hit enzo's music now you got your tag team in your faction maybe you go one more maybe you get your silos that you get your sokoa i don't know where it goes from there but i think you kind of have your you know history doesn't repeat itself it rhymes but you've got a kind of outsider thing looking at things i want to hear your guys thoughts wow what am i supposed say when you blow my mind like that like i i've been i mean that was yo set's teacher was cooking what was it what did he say his name was again he just we just got jay from iowa jay from iowa brought the ruckus there yeah man that was no the la nightmare is uh that's listen whether it's a faction or a thrown together tag team you gotta do it yeah Yeah, you do.

1:14:23You do. I wonder, I really do. LA nightmares, fires. So as we sit here though, SGG, are we going to, do you think we are going to see any sort of change for Cody Rhodes? Or are they going to really just kind of keep going forward with Cody as the baby face and that's that? I think they need it. Cody Rhodes, CM Punk, sure they could do like a baby face, baby face thing, but I think Cody's going to benefit from a fresh coat of paint. Maybe he gives up the blonde, his hair goes dark again, and we get heel Cody. Oh, my God. I just realized I had a dream last night that Cody had dark hair. I'm not kidding.

1:15:05Wow, I am a loser. That was in my dream. And I was like, wow, you did it. Interesting. Interesting.

1:15:16But you think they're going to leave it, though? you don't think we see any change i don't i don't think so i think they they push as far as they got they're gonna go with this without these guys they're antagonizing each other they maybe don't get along but i don't see either one of them turning um well no we know it's not punk i've said this many times punk ain't turning and all you when you watch unreal that's another thing that like is just so clear it's just like where you know where he is in the pecking order of important good guys also i just want to say to punk you got to stop talking about aj the way that you do because you're making the rest of us all look like a-holes yeah no one talks about their partner the way cm punk talks about aj like i don't even know that i could know how to do it S-U-G.

1:16:17If someone's like, hey, say something nice about Crystal, I have no doubt you will come up with something. But the amount of superlatives this man drops on his wife every time he talks on her, you're making us look like shit, bro. Yeah, we can come up with something, but does he have to go something plus plus every time? Every single time. Every time. And the worst part, it's accurate so it's not even like you're sitting there like oh he had to say that this is like guessing it it's it's accurate yeah but it's still really hard we can't we can't do this and we need we need you to let up a little bit but no i really did i've enjoyed the first two quite a bit um seeing the cena thing relived it i'll tell you the main thing i thought was thank god we now have Gunther and Nick Aldis because for Cena to have given that much to Gunther and then have Gunther be where he was a couple of months ago and I got to tell you SGG we're gonna see what happens with Dominic and Dan Housen here but you remember Dan Housen beat I mean, sorry, Dominic beat Cena as well.

1:17:32That's true. And in the time in which he's beaten Cena, it hasn't always been the easiest path for Dom. Don't get me wrong. He stayed active. He's had the AAA stuff that's been big. He's a huge star and he always will be, it feels like. But after Dan Housen, it's going to be interesting to see where Dominic Mysterio goes. I tell you where we're going to go to WWE radio starting next week. Special start time, 2 o 'clock Eastern time, live from Minneapolis, Minnesota at SummerSlam, the first ever Chief Heat live on WWE Radio. We'll talk to you then. SGG, stay mage. Take it easy, man.