Is The Bloodline Story Getting Stale?

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0:27it's cheap heat with peter rosenberg featuring stat guy greg and dip ah ladies and gentlemen welcome welcome welcome to cheap heat live on pro wrestling nation 24 7 a very very special juneteenth episode of uh cheap heat live like you dream about like you read about like you like you imagined we are here i'm your forever 24 7 champion i am in a beautiful beautiful festive new york city uh joining us in philadelphia speaking of festive is the physically large tech guy greg s-u-g like you said it's juneteenth uh i'm in my my african attire that i purchased in ghana very festive over here as well happy juneteenth uh gentlemen the it's giving it's giving homage to not only the great ancestors and and ghana but also akim the african dream and that's what i appreciate about it am i so you saying what you're saying today is i'm the one man greg the one man greg and also dressed in his finest ghanaian um wardrobe uh dedicated to the ancestors is the physically small dipperstein in la hey dip how are you i would love some some African garb to be able to put on today.

1:49You know what Dip would look like in the African garb? He is wearing black. I mean, SGG, you know what Dip would with the vibe he would give if you gave him a shirt like the outfit you're wearing right now? Do you remember during peak 2020 when Nancy Pelosi was wearing the Kinde cloth? That's what Dipper Steve would look like. We get the I would change the IG profile pic of GP Live to Dip kneeling with the fist up and the Kinte cloth. I think that would be a way that we celebrate. Welcome to the show, everybody. I hope everybody is getting to enjoy a day off. You know, it's interesting because we all recall the beginning of Juneteenth being seen as a national holiday.

2:34And I'm going to throw something at you. I'm actually going to start with Dip. I want your thoughts here. I feel like it's taken until 2026. I feel like this year it's like starting to feel like truly everyone knows this is an accepted it's real you're off work it's a holiday vibe I feel like it's just now getting into the consciousness what are your T's I will tell you Hollywood is completely shut down today there is zero no one is working no one is doing anything today it is a it is absolutely 100 % a full blown federal holiday day off people are treating it like like like christmas it's it's because it takes it's interesting obviously this is not a new holiday and i remember people reject people you know like the idiots you know reject it they you know they you know i actually find the rejection of it to be quieter than you'd think it would be from the bigots because they still want the day off oh yeah that's what i was gonna say that though the day off made it key the day off no one's fighting it's the only way to make it acceptable to these idiots yes even though i'm not gonna celebrate but i am gonna take that day off thank you and for everybody listening because i know we have a very diverse listenership from all over the country you may not know much about me or my you know my my bent on life i truly believe when juneteenth came along as a holiday that everybody knew about because it's been a holiday for a long time Donald Glover did an episode of Atlanta on Juneteenth back in like 2017 yes and every white person who watched the episode thought he's making something up we've never heard of this in our entire lives I'm just letting you know that's how like how big the the separation the distance was on people understanding the cultural importance of this holiday now fast forward I legitimately feel that of all the federal holidays non-religious I'm not including the religious ones it is the most legitimate like when you get into what is a holiday supposed to mean and you look at meanings of holidays could the end of the could the abolishment and end of the worst institution in the history of this nation be any better a reason to have a holiday it is like the perfect ultimate celebration of like when our country went from being fully repug to being significantly less repug that that's a major reason for celebration it is yeah yeah for sure only morons would fight this and everyone's everyone's excited about it now everyone's elated and it's and it has it rotating days but when it falls on a friday tremendous anyways it's it's been a holiday all week in new york guys i'm not gonna lie to you you've been missing out it was a good week to be here this was a new york week what happened was that something happened what went on this week It was the 30-year and one-week anniversary of the NWO invasion.

5:38That's definitely reason for celebration. Now, Dip, we do have to continue our Patreon watch-along this week. SGG, what was the pay-per-view coming up before Bash at the Beach? Great American Bash. Great American Bash. so we were going to watch a little bit of Great American Bash and we're going to watch the following Nitro because like Dip did you remember that there was another pay-per-view between when Nash was revealed and Bash at the Beach that there was the Great American Bash first a month before Bash at the Beach yeah because by the time Bash at the Beach happened they already had gear as the outsiders so they were like full blown outsiders already by the time you know the the big you know the the Hogan thing happened so yeah no I remember that was by the way that was a great if you were I mean I was 10 years old at the time I was nine you know uh 1996 so I was I was nine years old at the time I was thinking what I had I mean I obviously had didn't understand you know business then and didn't realize that I just didn't understand Razor Ramon and Diesel were on WCW.

6:51That was like what that's what I was thinking. And I was I was actually very convinced that they had not signed a contract and that there was they were not part of the company and that they legitimately were invading. You were to me. It was a real invasion. Dip, you were seven. Nine. Not an SG. You were in 96 in the summer of 96. No. Yeah. Eleven. Eleven. Summer of 96. So this actually felt completely legit. Yeah, this was like, wow. Yeah, this is a big dark spot for me. I'm out of WWF, and it's before I've gotten to college, and people are now watching the Monday Night Wars in my dorm. So I'm in a very out-of-it point at this moment.

7:39Of course, I've now relived this part 90 times. I mean, I don't know if I've re-watched any era more, really, frankly, than the invasion. I mean, it was so fun. My, like at the time, like I was a wrestling purist even at this age. So to me, when the NWO was starting to form, like, and it was a little, it was like, it was like, you know, rated PG-13, not PG. But I was like, you know, it still was like maintained some level of innocence. I don't know how, I don't know if that rings true, but I hated the attitude era at the time. I think I've said this before on the show. The Attitude Era to me, I was like, when it all of a sudden started to switch over in DX and Val Venus and Goldusts and all wearing crazy things, I was like, I hate this.

8:26This is the godfather. I was like, this is the worst. This is not wrestling. What did they make this into? This is a joke. And then I started to really move farther into WCW at that time. And then only years later in life when I understood what the Attitude Era was that I appreciated. well here we are and if you want to get on the patreon if you got an extra few bucks in your pocket that you want to spend on listening to three jabronis talk more about wrestling and bagels uh patreon gp live we did one last week we're gonna do another this weekend as well uh last night i was out again for the second time in a week celebrating the knicks here's the funny thing like this is the thing about life that's appropriate i'm but like i i like i'm a celtics fan.

9:12That's the basketball team that I love. I'm sorry. I saw the article. You're a long-time Knicks fan. I saw the photo. You and Timothee Chalamet, you were Spike Lee. Long-time Knicks fan. I don't know. This is your second time celebrating the championship. Did you see this? Did you meet the Chalamet? I have not met Chalamet. He was not at either of the parties, shockingly. I was disappointed to not see Chalamet. I saw the photo proof. Yeah, but you don't know what we're talking about no that there was a wrestling article that came out this week talking about my comments on dan hausen and in doing so it described me as a lifetime nicks fan oh yeah i saw of course yeah yeah so i can't believe they held on so much to the beside himself like as if like that had some negative connotation wait hold on hold on wasn't that a great example if you guys have listened to the show before you may have heard dips bit bits making fun of the dirt sheets how they write articles about nothing this article about nothing was peter rosenberg says dan hausen's very excited about what's happening with the knicks that was basically the entire article and they made it and they played it like news like peter rosenberg has revealed some very interesting information that dan hausen finds this entire knicks thing to be very cool whoa i mean can you believe it yeah like who i don't understand how that constitutes a news story but anyways so it's very funny to be the a quote fan of a team um listen i take the commanders very seriously i'm from dc there's a different thing with me and the commanders for sure they're far and away my favorite team but when it comes to the other teams that i like uh or and have loved i it just doesn't quite take precedent over the level of fun that the city is having this week like i'm sorry like when i see boston win a championship i'm like cool the celtics is the team i root for but i don't identify with the people in the crowd whereas here these are my people this is the city i live in this is and then to be in the moment is you know you you don't but i'm being serious dip doesn't understand what's going on you know he doesn't i understand i you didn't go as far as me like no but i'm not the fraud to your jump i completely jumped off the deep end when philly was having an amazing time when the eagles were on this Super Bowl run and won the Super Bowl.

11:33And like, to be in and around that excitement, it is hard to not be like, this is dope. I like this. Especially, can I tell you the truth? SGG, it's particularly hard if you're not a piece of shit. If you're a piece of shit and you're a negative person, then you're like relishing hating all the people around you. Yeah. But if you're like one of the people in your community and you want to have fun and be in a good mood it's like i could walk around like yeah but you don't have 18 championships like the celtics like what what kind of fun is that you should that's what you should be doing that's what you should be doing that's what i'd like to see you do i i was at some i was at some fakakta fancy pay club what do you call these a member club last night that's really i was at a member club is that what you call it tip yeah which one which one were you at Crane Club ZZ's No Which one Le Margot Oh I don't know I don't know that one How many are there now That's crazy They're on every corner The Zero Bond Yeah Zero Bond Crane Club You said Crane Club Yeah What the hell is Crane Club This is where the cool kids are going You're washed bro Have you ever been to Crane Club I don't live there I don't No You haven't been to Crane Club?

12:57I have not. I thought you were in the industry now. I'm surprised by that. But I was disappointed when I left last night. I left before I had heard security like talking to someone that goes and get really crazy here later. Cardi B is coming. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm not going to lie. I hang. I hung on for a while just on the I want to see Cardi. I want to see Cardi. Miss B is a fan of the Rosenberg. Is she not? I think she likes me, but I don't think she knows how much I like her. Like, I don't think she realizes that, like, my household, this is a Cardi B house. It's a Cardi B house. We love Natalie.

13:39I don't know if Natalie has missed a story of Cardi B's on Instagram in a decade. Does she watch the lives? I don't think she wants, Natalie, do you watch the lives? Do you watch Cardi's lives or do you just watch all her stories? Can you meet your stream yard, please? You watch highlights of the lives. She watched highlights of the lives and she watches the stories. Yeah. All right. Highlights. Highlights. I mean, watching the lives completely. No, that's a lot. That's a lot. She next level, but it was very funny. Did you see when, when the Knicks won the championship, immediately, like shortly thereafter, Cardi was posting on Instagram, her running around her house, screaming, get my makeup ready.

14:16The streets are calling me. She's just, and then, and then I see this morning that she was all juzged and sexy. out and posting on IG at literally 2 a.m. She doesn't leave the house till like 2. You can't wait at a party long enough to see Cardi B. No. I never understood that. Why wouldn't people want to just show up at the party at 9 o 'clock? I know. You don't want to be the first person at the party? Who cares? Let me tell you, I've been the first person at a party a thousand times. I'm a big... I don't give a shit. It needs nothing to me. I've been... If I throw a party, the first person to show up, I shake their hand.

14:57I greet them right at the door. Hello. You're the first person. Congratulations. You congratulate them. Absolutely. Let me get you a drink. Come on and have that. By the way, have the best seat on the couch. It's yours. SGG. Cardi B is never getting that handshake. No. Cardi B is never getting the handshake. SGG. I spent time yesterday with the reverse version of SGG. Who's this? Shane Gillis the Philly the Philly guy I got I have one bit of news I talked to Shane Gillis for a long time last night and I have one bit of news I will share from the conversation I'll say Gregor the man is a Nick loving fraud he he can't like resist it and like it's funny because but no but but SGG the Sixers fans like not you real Sixers fans are the only people I've met who have found no joy in this they've been disgusted and angry the whole time well no that that is that is kelly murphy erasure she is a she's a heat fan not a sixers fan oh i know i saw her posting anger and haste also she also hates this she has no love she's she's again she's a bad guy she's gotta the answer has to be bad guy how could you not have fun yeah i mean well she agrees 10 ,000 % she's a bad guy.

16:19So at least there's no argument. My mayor's Muslim. My bagel's Jewish. I mean, this is a moment of time. What were you saying, Dem? Mute your stream yard. Oh, thank you. He's producing the show. It's coming through. I'm impressed that he lasted that long. I've been asking. I've been texting you on tooth chains. I've been hitting it in the chat. I said it out loud four times. You didn't say it out loud. I've said it multiple times out loud. You just completely ignored it. you heard him say mute your stream yard twice before this no can't be you guys are both lying you're now in cahoots and speaking some other language i don't even in a even even in an absolute full-blown truth he cannot admit he's wrong can't you didn't say it even with a full blown truth that i've said it twice a fact he cannot admit he's right what what what made this time different when you said it how do you do it just coming through very rough in my no no no why'd I hear it this last time?

17:15I had to stop the conversation completely. So what were you doing before? Were you going like I said the person at the door I get the person at the time. He tried to stop the conversation before but in fairness to you, Dip stops the conversation for other things. So I think you just thank you. Kelly Murphy has you're clearly not on the chat. Kelly Murphy has you. She is admitting that I said it twice. All right. For future for future reference. I just want to be clear about this just for how I roll personally. Uh-huh. Please Please correct us in a moment that you're completely wrong. As the radio professional, not the hack who sits here in the apps, who cares?

17:52Just stop and go, yo, just stop. Who cares? Our radio show, That Professional, we ramble about bagels for two hours a week. He can't handle it. No, I'm just saying to stop the show and say hit mute. You don't have to play a game. Oh, Peter Rosenberg, somebody told him something. He didn't want to hear it. By the way, Dip is still upset because last week he sounded like an idiot playing down El Grande Americano. You were so wrong on a wrestling take. He's grasping at it. But, Dip, you're so annoying. Dip, you know what? I'm fine to be wrong. Listen, if you want to get into a nasty argument today, you let me be wrong about this.

18:31You just have the shitty wrestling takes every week. That's your job. Now he's putting me down. No, no. My job is I'll get things wrong about logistics. You get every wrestling take wrong. So what was bad this week? maybe they should turn Ludwig Kaiser into a sumo wrestler this week. What are you bringing? They're starting a sumo league. I don't know if you read that. WWE sumo? No, there's a whole. I read this also on the dirt sheets. There's a sumo league starting where some major backer, someone major. You're being serious now, or this is just a joke? Not a joke. I can't tell if we're still doing the thing or not.

19:05We're not doing the thing. Are you sure? While we're completely off the rails. We can continue the thing if you'd like. While we're completely off the rails, I want to jump in, though, and say, also, just bringing back to the Juneteenth conversation, you know I was going to mention it. I wait for it every year. Black Wrestling is back. Oh, boy. Their Juneteenth special, the BRP 50, highlighting the 50 best Black wrestlers of the year. I don't know who number one is. The rest of the list comes out today. But like I say, every year, I always look forward to this because - Wait, so what do they reveal on the actual day?

19:38What gets revealed today? today they're going to reveal who actually took the number one spot they've been counting down throughout the week so we've you know numbers 50 through i think the top 50 through 10 have all been revealed and then they're going to count down to number one i'm expecting it to be trick williams wow is that is that what we know over oba over oba oba's not a champion oba beat brock but brock lesnar is not a championship unfortunately that's crazy it doesn't make By the way, that would be nonsensical. What you just said, if that's the reasoning, that would be silly. Listen, the Lemon Pepper Steppers has had the world on fire.

20:19By the way, congratulations to Trick, him and Lash get married tomorrow. They're a great guy. Oh, great weekend to do it. Black love. Great, great year. Yeah, Juneteenth wedding, all the stuff. But the thing is, and I don't know, I don't want to besmirch the BRP because maybe this is just your thoughts on it. That's my thoughts on that. But don't you think like, if we're being honest, the trick run has been amazing and he's put himself in a great place, but he is not nearly as high on the current pecking order in wrestling as Opa dip. Agree? 100%. I wouldn't, I wouldn't say not nearly as high.

20:55I think it's close. I think it's closer than people. It's not close. It is not that close. It's not that close. It's not, it's not far and away. You guys are making it sound like Opa's far and away. I think trick edges out Opa. You hold on, but how trick had a match with Sammy Zane for the U S championship that he won. He's the champion. He's a champion. That's correct. And he's done great. And Oba is having a series of matches with Brock Lesnar. right because look trick has had higher just the fact that trick has had more matches with sammy zane his quality of competition and it wasn't just the sammy zane stuff right he they they had more matches with other people too oba has brock lesnar oba has cody and then oba has a bunch of jobbers let's be honest so oba himself is mage but the quality of competition is there's a huge gap in between Brock Lesnar and the jobbers.

21:49You made a good point. Trick won a championship. The championship, the champion. No. The U.S. Dip, the U.S. championship does not factor in when we're comparing it to Brock Lesnar as the... You're also forgetting Trick NA. Trick was an NXT champion, TNA champion. In the pecking order of things right now, Obafemi is above Trick Williams. Sorry to say. Yes, but it's not all based. There's multiple criteria championships have to factor in general pecking order. Quality competition have to factor in and yes, he's talking general pecking. Yeah, the order of pecking. General pecking order, Oba, I would give it to Trick over Oba and general pecking order.

22:30I love general pecking, by the way. You're giving it to Trick over Oba. We're talking the order of pecking. When you're giving it to Trick, William. I would go Trick over Oba. Now you're being worse than me. You can't believe this. Let's see what they say when the list comes out. But yeah, like I said, they're going to say Oba is what they're going to tell you. If they say Oba, I'm boycott. And I would hate to have to do it to the one. I don't understand. What are you talking about? This is a ridiculous take. Okay. It's ridiculous. Well, no, I have to get in on this because Dip had his ridiculous El Grande take last week.

23:03And then you had the StreamYard debacle of 2026. I have to get in on this. All right. So this is going to be my ridiculous take for the opening segment. It's just crazy. It's a crazy take. All right. I like them both very much. They're both amazing. I'm all in on all both of them. But the idea that Obafemi is beneath Trick Williams right now is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's ridiculous. Is it more ridiculous than when are we getting the mask off, Ludwig Heiser? No. I still stand by that. That was going to be a question. What about me not hearing the StreamYard comment twice? What's the pecking order of ridiculous statements?

23:43What's the pecking order? Did they, did they, which, which Americano mask are they selling for$40 ,000? Is it, was that Chad Gables or Ludwig's? By the way, I'm not, by the way though, can I tell you the truth? They didn't make, they didn't make that very clear. I will say when they were like promoting it, I was like, wait, which Americano was that? No, it's the gold mask. It's coming off. It's the gold mask. Cause Chad had the black mask. He right. He had the black mask that night. Rip it off. So we, we, for the record. Chad is fully back. Chad is fully back. And we've got no Ludwig, correct?

24:19Correct. No, no Americano. They're letting that joy stay in Mexico for the time being, which I think is smart because before the mask versus mask, they played a game that I thought was interesting. And I don't think it was going to pay off where. Interesting. Interesting. Where Chad or Chad's El Grande was a good guy in America before Chad ever had a change of heart. Ludwig's El Grande should have been the good guy everywhere because with him only being the good guy in Mexico and now Chad making amends, before we get to see Ludwig, it has to eventually circle back around to Chad telling American audiences that, no, this guy is cool too and I'm good with him because the last time we saw Ludwig on the main roster, he was a bad guy and Chad was the good guy and they were both under the mask.

25:12You think they have to address that? I feel like Ludwig, if he comes back as El Grande Americano, Ludwig just doesn't exist. I think Ludwig comes back as El Grande Americano. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying, I don't think we've seen his El Grande either on Raw since Chad's been back. Oh, since? No, we haven't. Not since. I can't wait for him to come back as Ludwig. For them to bring him back, he has to be, they have to address that. Dip wants him to come back as Ludwig and just introduce Gunther. Yeah. That's what he thinks is the path. I can't even entertain. He's never, although I will tell you, he was good at that.

25:43Just to be clear, I loved him doing it. He made Gunther mage. He does. I'll tell you the poor, I agree with Tip. Yeah. Gunther needs something. Yeah, Gunther needs something. If Ludwig was the thing that made Gunther mage, and now Ludwig has his own mage thing, that becomes a Gunther problem. Sure. And Gunther needs to resolve that problem in some way that does not sacrifice. I mean, his mask from the match is auctioning and it hit 40 ,000. It's going to, by the time the auction closes, it could probably hit 60, 80. God knows. That's not a guy that you say, all right, we take off the mask. We're done.

26:19We did this thing. And now we put you back to the other thing that you were doing. How crazy is it, by the way? We got to take a break. But how crazy is it how much we struggled to get a pronunciation of Gunther or Gunther? But yet Ludwig seems to have been easy. It's not Ludwig. it's not Ludwig it's not Ludwig he's been called Ludwig the whole time right all the announcers call him the same thing Ludwig Kaiser that's it no one's been able to make up their mind on the Gunther Gunther of it all and I asked I stopped him at the last PLA you stopped Gunther I stopped him and I went I said what's up dude I said what's up dude I said I gotta ask you something How the hell should I be saying your name?

27:08Everybody's saying it different. And what did he say? People say Gunther. They say Gunther. They say Gunther. They say this. He said. How have you been holding this off on us? This is gigantic news. This happened at the last PLE. He's just telling us. You think they were excited to write about me and Dan Housen's conversation? Talk about making headlines. This is gargantle. Okay. The next win. Peter Rosenberg talks to Gunther about how to pronounce his name. These two things are side by side in the New York Times. I believe he said he says Gunther. Gunther. Gunther. Gunther. Oh, wait a minute.

27:52You changed that. You changed it. Gunther. Is it TH or T? No, no, with a little H on it. There's a little H there. there's a strong t and a little h Gunther okay but you know what else he said I don't really care and I said because it's not your name

28:16and he went that's right whatever that's hilarious I think if you called him Walter that would bother him more is his first name Walter is it waltar or walter is his first name walter what's his what's his name let's see i have no idea it's gunther's full name by the way i i've i struggle with this walter oh yeah it's walter han he has the same name as alan han that's his beautiful austrian name he's walter han if i called him walter hayne he'd probably be offended by the way there's a but there's a there's a group of people, including my father's family, that's a Dipperstein. Dipperstein. Oh, yeah.

28:59There's people out there galore with Dipperstein. There are Steins. I have to confess. Yeah. I still don't know if Andrew Goldstein is Goldstein or Goldstein. I go Goldstein. I'm probably wrong on that. I use Steen. But my father says it's Joel Dipperstein. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You want to talk about headlines. Your own father says Steen? Yes. And you are Steen? my father says stein my mother says stein and i i adopted stein but the whole there's a whole swath it's like people that are pete guys there's a whole swath of of dipper stein out there the jeweler father needs to go up for grabs right now i cannot believe this and i and i think it's i think it's hilarious that in our own jew world order group chat dipper stein and goldstein are in the same chat.

29:50It is agreed that his name is Dipperstein and yet Goldstein is the Gunther of our chat and no one says his name the same way. I say Goldstein. I think I say Goldstein. Yeah. Does he say Goldstein? I say Goldstein. Wow. Now we're having a conversation. Let's see. 877-344-4893. Goldstein or Goldstein? We'll talk to you guys next. Let's get into the week that was. A lot did happen, and we're a week out from Night of Champions, King and Queen of the Ring clearing up a bit, and a very, a somewhat mixed reaction, but I thought thought-provoking opening segment of Monday Night Raw this past week. A lot to get to.

30:33It's GP Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. We're back with WCW Goldberg's in trouble. Ming to the front. Back, he goes with a turnbuckle. Into the gut. But Goldberg rebounds with a headbutt. Ming on the outside. Ming gets a chair. Goldberg gets a chair. This could get ugly. They're going to eat pizza. Little Caesars WCW meal. Get a free WCW motion card when you order two medium pizzas for just$9.99. Collect all four. Pizza, pizza. I'll trade you these three for Goldberg. Nope. SGG, I gave a big tease leading into the break here. Yeah. You had some criticism of Seg 1 from Monday Night Raw this past week.

31:16yeah the bloodline dominated monday night roll and seg one i have to say the the back half with the eric andre beat down loved it he was very disrespectful to to the ulafala and if you if you go back and watch you'll see what i mean he didn't just touch it he like he bounced it around like it was uh by the way it was too much if i'm if i'm gonna nitpick he should have just padded jacob on the back i don't think he needed to play with the ulafala no but the playing with the ulafala allegedly was the the impetus for the attack and yeah he well deserved i have no i have no issue with the beatdown that he got now i will say the promo though before that i don't know if i was really feeling it if the point was to show that um there's some dissension between jacob and the usos i don't know if i got that out of that opening segment if the point was to show that yes he has domesticated jacob as his as his words and that they have a werewolf that they can put on the loose effective but as a whole i don't know if it was the strongest um openness segment and promo that i've seen from roman reigns a guy who let's be honest any other time you give him the mic these days and it's good as gold i hear what you're saying about the specifics of the promo that it didn't further a ton of stuff but i just like this confusion around what jacob fatu is like i i and i loved him sicking him like i was into it yeah no i'm into that yes i am and i don't think it's really confusion jacob fatu has been very clear yeah but he doesn't mess with the uso but like he's so like that division i should say of like, I don't mess with the Usos.

33:03I mess with you. Yeah. Cause he's been super clear on that. Like I didn't lose to Roman. I didn't lose to your punk ass Jay. That's what he says all the time. I acknowledge Roman. I'll do what Roman says, but you guys can't boss me around. And even later on in the show, when the Usos go to Roman and it's like, Hey, you were supposed to tell him that when you're not around, he listens to us. I like that. I just don't think it came across super clear in the promo that there's this divide that is is clearly going to open up and if you know if jay wins king of the ring who knows what it's going to look like by summer slam where we have the usos on one side and then you know jacob and roman on the other side who knows where solo is going to be there's a lot of options that they put on the board i just don't think that before he started sickening jacob on people it became super clear what was happening i think there's been a lot of criticism i heard sam talking about the sum this week there's like a lot of criticism about like potential repetitiveness with the bloodline story i i don't consider what's happening to be repetitive at this moment either i think them them reforming is not repetitive and on this show i'm glad to hear you guys all agree because on this show where we love like long-term A-level storylines, you have to...

34:27That's the point of them, is that you can always go back to them. And there's another thing. That's what makes them dip all these stories. That's how you layer it. You got to layer it. Look, man, I don't know exactly what's happening at SummerSlam, but I will... I could tell you, if they debut Zillofa 2 at SummerSlam, as we know from the dirt sheets that he has been training at the PC, if we see Zillofa 2 at SummerSlam sort of enter the fray the way we saw Solo I think that's like a big deal I don't know don't you think? I don't think we need Zillofa I think it's already huge without it but let it get bigger I know that no one liked the corporate ministry I loved it it's not even a let it get bigger thing the family is huge so the family is what it is I want them all to come together to truly end Hulkamania.

35:21Do you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm looking for. I want them all. Nia Jax, you know, Zillofa 2, Solo and the MFTs. I want everyone in one corporate ministry, gargantle faction, all led by Roman Reigns, marching into WrestleMania next year to destroy, as a heel faction, to destroy Obafemi. That's what I'd like to see. I just want it to make sense. And I think right now, a Zillafatou pop-up doesn't make sense because you have Jacob Fatou at the peak of his powers already. And the way we got Jacob Fatou in this place, it made sense. Maybe Zillafatou comes in first as an enemy and then they break him down just like the way they did Jacob.

36:11And, you know, I don't know. There's a lot of places. Look, it is repetitive. Let's not. it's repetitive in general but it's it's it feels it feels fresh repetitive but but repetitive isn't the right way to say re it's a recall and it's it's further development um by the way what do you guys want to see happen with the bloodline 877-344-4893 877-344-4893 are you among those who think it's repetitive or do you like where it's going i'll tell you one thing i like think about how bad a spot solo sokoa was in recently solo had a three segment tag match wrestlemania smackdown he was not on smackdown the mfts were not on smackdown the following week like 60 of the people involved in that match were released from the company okay that's where solo was at wrestlemania and right now he is heating up and becoming meaningful again because of this whole thing.

37:08I made a joke earlier, as Natalie says, truth in every joke, about your horrible wrestling takes, and all it took was me waiting an hour. It's not a take. It's a fantasy. Your fantasy is many people's nightmare. Why? You want Scott Norton? Who else do you want? He'd be great. Scott Norton. Fantastic. Disco Inferno? Yeah, let's go. See you on the dance floor. I'm glad you brought up Solo P. Let's see you on this one. I'm glad you brought up Solo P because something I've been saying for a while, you know, Solo Sokoa gets overlooked a lot just because of his versatility. You can put him in a lot of different places, but that Solo Sokoa is a top guy.

37:57Wow. He's a top guy. Yes, I believe. Do you really feel that way? Yes. I've said this on this show multiple times and I'm going to say it again. That's a take, not a fantasy. Okay. That's the difference. That's a take. Especially with where he is now, P, you're right. He was in a position where most of the people involved in that match have been released. He stuck around. But you want to talk about dissension in the family and where things are going to go. Solo is another interesting layer to this story because Solo is where Jacob was, but in reverse. Solo came in and was immediately aligned with Roman.

38:33and then they had some beef and a solo found his way out and now that solo's been out he's not scared roman sent jacob to solo and solo basically looked him in the eye and told him if you want to see if roman wants to see me he can come get me you can run back and you tell him that because you were strong when you were next to me you're a lapdog next to roman and that's a side of solo that we haven't seen before because he's been doing the comedy thing and yeah he can be mr funny guy but solos developing on the side also and that's a that's a piece of the story that we cannot ignore yeah i like talatanga i like that guy you're a talatanga guy i am i you know i love a gargantuan person i will tell you i would like to see talatanga like do something like can we see it's time is there i'm sure they're working towards a some a do something for talatanga don't you think do you think there could be like something to do with talla tonga yes who no i don't even know what his voice sounds like i know he can have a very sweet soft voice that's probably why we don't need to hear from you think he's like it's like michael jackson vibes when talla tonga starts talking i'm gonna kick your ass it's all of a sudden becomes like the martin bashear interview you leave my brother alone i'm seeing too much of that again i don't want to relive that what the martin bashear the whole thing the whole thing is what do you watch the doc I watched the first like half of it So far It's not great It's entertaining though It's a really good documentary It's not a great for Michael For those of us who are enjoying Michael's not here You know SUG It's a silver lining That Michael's not here But on the flip side If you've been enjoying a Michael Jackson summer And you watch the Netflix doc About the Michael Jackson trial the Martin Bashir interview which by the way dip in my early days of radio we're talking about I'm on college radio yeah I'm a lunatic these tapes need to be burned no one needs to ever hear what we're going to say on the show my Martin Bashir Michael Jackson coverage I was breaking it down for hours I was obsessed there was that one part when he's like I've been making the same joke for 25 years but when Michael's like I'm you know it's just I'm Peter Pan and Martin is like no you're not you're Michael Jackson and he's like but I'm Peter Pan he's like you're a grown man it's the craziest the craziest moment is when he's buying all the things in the store that is the classic scene that's the best moment that's more iconic I won't say it's the craziest moment but it's definitely the most iconic moment where he's just like oh these chandeliers cost 8 billion dollars I want two of them it's the ugliest shit on earth I know, by the way.

41:24Hold on. And you know what else I'm going to say? I need clearance from the audience. I'm going to be making jokes about something that's around other stuff that's really bad and I wouldn't joke about. But with all the stuff they're talking about that happens inside Neverland and the horrors potentially that are alleged to have happened in the bedroom, and then they show dip in the dock, like the up going up the stairs and what the bedroom looks like yeah i couldn't it looks like it looks like your jewish uncle's cluttered house i couldn't it looks like shit that's neverland it looks like it's all like old wood and and and and it's horrible i don't know the history of that property like i don't know anything about it i don't know if it was like something else before i don't know i didn't pay enough attention to it but listen if you sign two more wrestlers you'll be buying neverland in weeks you'll have neverland your 40th will be at Neverland dip could end Hulkamania with the roster he got right now dip might be ready to end Wrestlemania himself but it's not good the doc is worth watching it is just really sad because it's there's some things that it gets hard to have the plausible deny if you're a Michael Jackson fan it makes it hard for you to forget to sort of all of the craziness I've been watching the time we don't have to go on we should talk about wrestling but I love wrestling I do love the Tom Hanks World War 2 thing now that's on that I'm watching now too there's a Tom Hanks World War 2 thing yeah you know i feel about world war ii i'm obsessed with it huh you you're you're your obsession with world war ii is i don't know yeah when when do you have enough of world war ii i learn something new every day i mean they're gonna i'm watching some i i've evolved into i was like scared to watch a lot of it for obvious reasons for for a long time and now i'm just like full-blown watching all of it it's like oh my god what a crazy time in history anyway we love wrestling we think it's great yeah dip only watches two things professional wrestling and Holocaust documentaries.

43:17These are the only things the man consumes 24 hours and he still doesn't know if it's Stino Stein. That's the crazy part. Overall, though, I just I think there's a I think over the last few weeks, Dip mentioned this last week and when he said it, I thought he was just kind of being saying words. Honestly, with all due respect, I thought you were just putting words together. I didn't know. I think we are hitting a little bit of a good stride here. The stories aren't all set up yet. There's still a lot of information we don't have yet at the top of the card about where we could be for SummerSlam.

43:50But I agree with Dip. Cody and Sammy is getting interesting. As a result, Cody and Gunther is getting more interesting. The Usos, Jacob Fatu, Roman thing is getting interesting. We're starting to build some things in different places that have potential to be something. the Oba Brock thing now everyone is assuming Brock will interfere I don't know if that's the case that's what everyone has assumed we shall see and does someone get involved in this Jey Uso Javon match and does Javon end up getting to the King of the Ring final because I will say Javon Evans and Obafemi even if it gets ruined by Brock Lesnar that would be really fun to get to see for a few minutes yeah yeah it won't be that but yeah let me ask you another question are you guys seeing the negative reaction to everything Jey Uso these days yes there's a lot of Jey Uso hate out there SGG what do you attribute it to the the blowback I mean I think the video that initially went up of Jey Uso winning his king of the ring match it had like 40 ,000 dislikes on YouTube I think it's just fans they they have their favorites and you got a tight window of time from being their favorite to like hitting that launching pad and jumping off and before they say you know what we have a new favorite and now we're tired of this guy because before jay uso got his hands on the championship he was the guy that people wanted pushed we need this for jay uso he should have beaten roman for the title at this time and then he finally gets a title and it's just like jay again jay can't talk all his all his mistakes are magnified so i think it's just a case of fans have turned on jay not because he didn't live up to their expectations but because of reasons that quite honestly are not known to me because jay has been performing he's been performing very well um sure there are other people who could have beat gunther for the world championship or become champion and got that spot but i think jay usso for a first championship run did very well and then for the role that he's playing now where he's you know him being king of the ring would be a good wrinkle to the story because it would he says he's going after cody rose but i don't think that necessarily would be the case and then where does the bloodline go if jay decides that maybe he wants to crack at it what's his little brother gonna feel about it What's his older brother Jimmy going to feel about it?

46:29There's a good story development, but people don't want to let the stories happen. That really is the main problem. No one wants to let it play out. No one wants to lipo. They don't want to lipo. I don't think people want to see him in LA night again. I think people are over that too. I said that to you last week and you said you didn't even think of it that much. Oh, I was saying that to dip last week. I went down a little rabbit hole on that though. I thought about that a lot after you said that because I thought it was a stupid take by me and it it turns out it was and all it was was he didn't remember when i i said to dip i was like god i just can't believe la night is still hovering around the usos and that's how he got down with wrestlemania kind of forgot how long it had been like remember how many weeks in a row raw ended with a schmazz with those guys involved it was like every single week yeah and his wrestlemania match came from being around the usos i'm sorry i just remembered something that i'll kick myself if we don't mention it before the show ends.

47:26And we're going to get to your calls, guys. We have limited time for calls. The next 10 minutes or so, 877-344-4893. They finally did something that I've wanted to see done that never happens in pro wrestling, and it happened this past Monday. Can either of you think what I'm talking about? It has to have something to do with the broadcaster. What do they do? It does not have to do with the broadcaster. Although, shout out to Graves, who recently, I don't know if you guys have noticed, in the last few months, Graves buries me on TV like every two weeks. Yeah. he's he is on my neck all the time it's very funny and i have noticed it and i'm sorry yeah i love it too i usually i would defend you but i'm like yo cory's getting this off today cory just hits every couple weeks he just said he he said he said i ruined becky's vacation called me called me rosen hoser or something like that um so do either of you know what thing happened this week no nope and they used logan paul while injured oh i thought they never do that if if logan is out on social media and he's showing everybody that he's working you know he's trying to rehab why can't he be there with a cast on of course he can like why not it's not dangerous and I loved that we finally got to see him like they never bring anyone back and just let them be injured on TV I thought the same thing it was so cool why not have Logan Paul be back you ever have one of those things on your arm you ever have one of those no like the full medley thing I've never had the medley thing Mike Woods you almost did yeah you remember what happened with Mike Woods the weatherman I thought the same thing In fact, I was going to bring it up today.

49:12You beat me to the punch. Thank you. You should do this for a living, maybe broadcast. What, the broadcast? Yeah. Well, I just got to find representation. Then I'm going to get myself into the business. I got to get one of these heels, hats or shirts or something like that. By the way, I'm seeing them all over the place and not just in wrestling things. Really? Yes. I've seen maybe three times. I have seen in the wild heels stuff. Well, West Side Guns merch is generally very popular. and smoked is it and smoked is it gun is gun is selling this shirt for like i mean this hat for like 50 bucks yeah it's a cool hat it is it's in the background on uh on ibra laura rosenberg by the way let's take some phone calls let's talk to the people let's start with eric in georgia who wants to talk about jacob fatu eric what's going on bro hey how's it going thanks for taking my call i wanted to comment on the bloodline i think it's more of a resurgence of the bloodline and i actually got really tired of the bloodline last go around and now i'm like super interested again my fear with um fatu is that it's kind of playing out a little bit the same as solo when he was brought in and there was a rift between the usos and he was becoming roman's enforcer and whatnot and i hope creative does it differently so it doesn't seem like a rinse and repeat that's a good call man yeah and the word and the word resurgence yeah is a good way of describing it like like it has to thank you for the call dude it has to be there it's all why would why would the blunt line have completely disappeared we know this thing is there listen you want to talk about a retread i'm the one who last week said i'm down for jimmy and jay to break up and fight again, okay?

50:56I think sometimes you run things back. You got to. Let's go to Jeff in Pennsylvania who wants to talk about the bloodline. Jeff, welcome to Cheap Heat. What's up, buddy? Hey, thanks for taking my call. Great show as always. Two things real quick. Number one, bloodline with Jey Uso current role. I think right now just the world's different. I think I go back and I think about your Bruno Sammartino runs and things like that. I think Roman Reigns having that long run was kind of a fluky thing for him. I think the fans are so finicky and long-term doesn't always work with title reigns, number one.

51:29But number two, I think when I really want to see Naomi come back, I'd really like to see her be part of the storyline and really help either Jimmy split up or Jimmy and Jay split up and go with Solo and kind of feud on that side of things. So I think they go back how they all want to be in Roman's spot. But now that she has a family and a kid, that could be a good storyline growth there. I think that's a good idea. We've always wanted to see a female member of the bloodline. You've been calling for Naomi to be involved in some way for a long time. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. Or Nia Jax. We're in Pennsylvania calling from there, buddy.

52:08Is he gone? He's gone. He's gone. Can you take a guess? No, I couldn't tell from that accent. I stopped. I went and got cheesesteak in Pennsylvania last week. Which one? You hadn't heard of it when I asked you. Remember, it was called La... Yeah. Was it Lenovo? No, La... La Spadia's. La Spadia. La Spadia? No, I haven't heard of that one either. There were three of them. The three locations. But we met up, my brother and I met up, and let me tell you something about that Philly Cheese Day. That's a delight. Yeah, it is. I got news for you if you didn't know. It absolutely is. The best cheesesteak on earth is now in LA, in my opinion.

52:49Which one? A place called Matu. It's insane. Angelo's is better than Matu. I love Angelo's, too. It's a little bit different than Angelo's, also. I got news for you. That's the place in Beverly Hills, right? Are they from Philly? No. It's a Japanese restaurant. It's like Japanese Wagyu. Have you had... Are you saying Wagyu? Are you saying Wagyu? Wagyu. That's what it sounded like you said. He said Wagyu. It is Wagyu. I know we go Wagyu, but the Japanese I just say Wagyu. I don't even say, I don't even pronounce the Y really. I just call it like, it's like Ragu with a W. It's Wagyu. Because you're white trash.

53:31Wagyu is the proper Japanese pronunciation. Have you had Matu? I have not, but I just know Angelos is a strong... Angelos is crazy good. Crazy. Angelo's is the best I've had. I've heard great things about Matu. No, it's wild. Before we go, speaking of resurgence, I'm going to revisit this argument from the top of the hour with some breaking news. Oh, boy. Here we go. Actual breaking news? Actual breaking news. Black Rasslin has dropped their top five. Okay, start at five. Give it to us. Shout out to Black Rasslin. Mercedes Monet. Has five. And at number five. By the way, that's very generous for Mercedes' year, considering she was kind of on a decline.

54:18I mean, intentionally so, not in her skills. It's all those championships. Let's judge the whole list before we hear. Okay, sorry. Five, Mercedes. Okay. Four, Athena. That's extremely high. That's beyond ridiculous. You just said don't judge. No, I'm judging. I can't help myself. I can't help myself. Three, Javon Evans. No issue. Javon in the top five for sure. Now, here's where we're going to argue. In at number two, Obafemi. Oh, my God. Number one, Trick Williams. Well, no wonder you like this. No wonder you love it. I didn't know. I didn't know. I just believed in the power of the lemon pepper steppers.

55:11It's it's I love trick. He's had an incredible year. He we're getting him. Trick and I are getting closer by the moment. Big fan. I love it. Don't don't end it. We know I'm not. I love him. We're definitely to get him on the show. That's my dude. Big fan in every way possible. But like I would say Oba is the number one hottest rising star in all of wrestling regardless of anything.

55:42Any power ranking. On the overall power rankings, black or otherwise, I think Oba is probably number one. I don't see... Trick is the man, and the him and Sammy stuff was fun, and him and Yachty have been incredible. Like I said, congrats to him and Lash. They're getting married. All these things. Shout out to Carmelo and Kalani. I think they got married also recently. No, they posted and it looked like they got married. No, he said in six months we're getting married. okay it did look very wedding-ish no no it was a they definitely did like a wedding photo shoot okay and shouts to Kehlani her and Kendall had a great match a couple of weeks ago it was really good it was really good they were paying very close attention to NXT these days I think that I think Kehlani's really come along nicely man she's she's super talented wow Kehlani was 15 and 16 respectively on the that's very cute I like how they did that they kept them together on the list yeah they kept them together on the list by the way that feels a little feels low for them who's in the top 10 feels low for Kehlani who's in the top 10 top 10 let me pull it up for you this is the black wrestling podcast black power rankings for the year top 50 BRP 50 number 10 Willow Nightingale number 9 Kevin Knight number 8 Sol Ruka right Leon Slater number six Jade Cargill who I would argue Jade how could you put Athena above Jade Cargill Jade could go in front of Athena and then bump Athena and Mercedes down she could go ahead of Javon even she's main eventing pay-per-views I mean not main eventing pay-per-views but she's a champion she was champion for a long time but Javon is wrestling it just depends what their system is because Javon for example is wrestling every week he's putting on TV matches every single week he's another rising star I mean I don't think his star is rising as fast or burning as bright as Oba but it's not a twinkle it's not a twinkle alright let's take a call let's go to Josh in Ohio what's up Josh hey guys love the Convo today it's been really entertaining I'm about to and I just want to say you guys are making me feel old also because I'm going to be 40 in November so I'll join the 40 club then yeah welcome anyway I was wanting to comment on the bloodline and I just think I mean it's very it's important I mean to keep roaming around yes that you know he has to I feel like the bloodline is kind of part of him now and when the bloodline wasn't around it was just it just seemed really awkward and like they didn't really know what all to do with him i also think it's really important for solo because i'm finally interested in solo again so i think that's great for him because i think um so he's really talented and i would uh just want to see him interesting again interesting i agree i agree with you i think roman with a faction is more interesting than roman solo and i don't mean that i mean no disrespect obviously um i know that role is interesting for him the most interesting version of roman is when he has minions and he could be the the top dog he's a great boss let's be he's a great tony soprano he needs paulie and he needs christopher and he needs he needs sylvia all right well now now you see what you did and and you guys we have to you guys have to go dip dip has to meet with very important people sgg has a um a Juneteenth luncheon that he's speaking at which we have things we have to get to but now next week we have to break down who is which Sopranos character in the bloodline I'm here for it you know who Talatanga is?

59:37Furia definitely Talatanga has to be Furia a thousand percent I'm sure of it alright we have much more Cheap Heat to get to right here special Juneteenth episode Cheap Heat live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7

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1:00:19So you're telling me that you're planning a vacation, but you're not sure exactly when it will be. I may never call. Anthony Soprano, we have a search warrant. The Sopranos, a new original series from HBO. Right now, just when things are going good. A new show, Sunday night at 9. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the world's number one sports and recreation podcast and pro wrestling show. She, Pete, live on this beautiful Juneteenth weekend. end uh as you've been able to tell from the vibes all day long um it's it's quite a time to be in new york city and you know it has been a fantastic last week here in new york uh the new york knicks are world champs which basically there's been there's been no way to not enjoy it i mean like i am a lifelong or almost lifelong celtics fan and if you think that i'm going to choose my my love of a team that that i love but it's not even from a city that i'm from if you think that i'm going to let that fanship get in the way of enjoying this sort of bliss in the city that i call home yeah i'm sorry you're mistaken i'm into this i'm having a great time i i you know a younger me a gatekeeping rosenberg i might have been able to like like, ah, bump this, I'm not into it.

1:01:45Man, at this age of 46 years old, having gone through a lot of things personally and more broadly in the world, in the city that have been negative, to not enjoy this moment in New York City, if you love this place at all, to me is wild. Like, if you're a former New Yorker who lives somewhere else, if you're someone whose family's just in New York, you spent a lot of time here, which was me as a kid, you know whatever your connection is to new york if you are someone who has a connection to this area i just think to not enjoy this is is is such a mess but we've talked about that throughout the day let's close out this week uh the way we did last week dipristine and sgg had some things to handle i as soon as i get done here with the live show as we're doing this on friday depending when you're hearing it as soon as i get done here i am heading out to caldwell new jersey to a place called calandra's italian village where i am hosting a watch party for team usa soccer they kick off at three o 'clock against australia if that's your cup of tea and you happen to be in the jersey area come through and uh and say hello that's gonna be a good time um of course we've talked about next week is night of champions i have a very busy week uh next week but we will we will get there but what i'm trying to do now is go through and see if i have any questions from the old peckerheads on the discord that's right we do have a discord folks if you're not a part of it go find the discord uh we dropped a patreon this week for our patrons um someone said i need to get this guy on cheap heat uh david willis oh it's still real to me guy the 20th anniversary of David Willis's it's still real to me damn it wow can you believe it it's been 20 years and now he's making an appearance at Heroes and Legends 26 the it's still real to me damn it guy shout out to Extreme Wrestling they're going to have David Willis that's hilarious that is awesome let him enjoy that

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1:05:50From our Discord, a few questions coming in. Mr. Roski says, give us some info on Big E's book if you can. Here's all I can say. Big E will absolutely be on the program and we will have a great in-depth conversation. In fact, maybe it's next week. Maybe we have Big E live co-hosting next week. Because Big E is going to be in town with me. Because we are doing the Night of Champions countdown show from Stanford. So maybe Big E is with us on the program live next week. So let me work on that. That's a good idea. I know the book is about his wrestling journey. It's about his mental health journey.

1:06:39but I think it's all together from what I understood when he was talking about writing it I do think it's a memoir so I think it's like a memoir on his life and included in that is like the very serious stuff he's dealt with from a mental health standpoint and again I hate that mental health is a phrase that's just completely thrown around these days and it's a catch-all word that can mean nothing when you know for some people it's very very real it means they went through some pretty serious and diagnosed stuff. But in his case, he gets into all of that stuff. And I think his career, getting through the neck injury, all of that.

1:07:17So I don't know much beyond that, but let's try to get him on next week. Joe Mack reaches out and says, any chance for a heat and greet for Saturday night's main event at MSG next month? A pre-show bite and beer possibly. I got to tell you, should this be the week that we go to the squared circle cafe before saturday night's main event i mean i don't think i'm doing anything on that show my my guess is i'm not so if i'm not i don't you know i'm just going to be going as a fan to enjoy it maybe we do the squared circle cafe in harlem next week is that the move let's let's work on that we now would have a little less than a month to pull that together.

1:08:03And I'm still working on pulling together the viewing of Beyond the Mat that we're working on. So there are going to be a couple of, you know, heat and greet adjace of things. We're going to have the viewing of Beyond the Mat, which will be a ticketed event just to cover cost and give a little money to charity. We're going to do that. And I'm working on that being a very, very cool event. And that'll be in the tri-state. Then maybe we'll do the Squared Circle Cafe in July for Saturday night's main event. If not, if we can't pull that off, by the way, we could literally do like a concourse meetup at Madison square garden.

1:08:33So there's some, you know, there's more than one way to, to skin the proverbial cat in that way. I don't want to skin the cat. What a terrible phrase, but we're going to figure that out. And then as announced last week, right here on the program, there is officially, um, an event taking place with wrestling for sale and company summer slam weekend. The, the it's on my Instagram page as we speak. um it is in minneapolis it is from 11 a.m to 4 p.m on summer slam friday um friday july 31st at up down minneapolis um it's going to be awesome so an incredible wrestling pop-up plus i will be in the building um dip will definitely be in the building at some point i don't think sgg is making the trip um but we're figuring out that may that may just be heat and greet not live show you know maybe pre-saturday night's main event we go to squared circle cafe and just do a straight up live pod i don't know bruh um shouts to big doggy cool um love to hear some predictions for the owen cup and king of the ring queen of the ring of course we got to some of that already um and we'll do it again next week as we lead in um how about a future power rankings or future tears of mage with current nxt and evolve talent huh that's that's a fun idea like a predictive tears of mage of the young talent i'm not mad at that um let's see it's how does wsc and the knicks i assume you meant wwe and the knicks capitalize on the championship was set on its main event at msg pitches your storyline guys it's it's pretty easy isn't it you know i brought this up earlier too it's pretty easy i i think you have dan housing in a match i you know let's say it's with the Miz.

1:10:27That's what he's been doing stuff with. It could be anyone, but let's say it's Dan Housen and the Miz, but this time Kit Wilson comes out. They've had enough. They've had enough of Dan Housen. So Kit Wilson, the Miz, and maybe someone else really corner and start the beat down of Dan Housen. Music hits, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Carl Anthony Towns, the New York Knicks come out to the biggest pop ever they come to the ring toss people out good night good luck we're out of here what are your t's dude it's not rocket science this is this is as easy as it gets would be on fire um let's see msc says it's roughly 30 years since nash showed up to wcw we know that because we're talking on patreon who would it take in today's landscape to generate that similar momentum swing guys i've said it i think the only thing that could legitimately turn the wrestling world completely on its access would be roman reigns leaving now cody i'll say that cody at this point would be a huge deal as well like if cody were to be somehow go back to aw which i do never see that happening certainly i don't see it happening with roman either but i think it would take someone of that level going over there.

1:11:48I'll throw one more in there though. That would be big. I don't know if it would be that, but close Ria leaving at some point would also be huge. You know, Bianca, like those four people, like those four definitive people to me are what you'd be looking at, you know, and, and listen, you never say never. You never know what's going to happen in this business, but it's possible. Oh, you know what? D Sharp says, maybe bring back the Shad Gaspard power rankings for this week. Well, you know what? RIP Shad Gaspard and the black power rankings. If you're not familiar with back in the day, our black power rankings, where we ranked the best black talent of that week in pro wrestling.

1:12:42But I will say, we didn't have time to do it in a thorough, proper way. However, if you look at where we're at for King of the Ring right now, I mean, it's hard to see that anyone at this moment is not, it's hard to say the number one isn't constantly Obafemi. but depending on what happens here tonight we could really be on our way to Obafemi and Javon Evans

1:13:16so they would be obviously I mean how tremendous would that be let me see hold on let me get my exact bracket in front of me so yeah you have Oba beat Dominic and then you have Javon and Jay So if Javon gets past Jay and you have Javon and Oba, I mean, that basically is the Shad Gaspard black power rankings at this exact moment. But obviously, there's tremendous talent up and down the board. But I mean, those guys right now would do the BPR, the black power rankings very, very proudly. RIP to Shad Gaspard. But I'll talk to SGG. Maybe that's something we bring back. It has been a minute. And Juneteenth would be the perfect time to reintroduce that and start doing it moving forward.

1:14:01Let's see.

1:14:07Dan Housen and Brunson to win the tag titles from The Vision, even if just for a few days, to give Dan Housen and Brunson a monster pop and some ESPN coverage. Who says no? MSE, that's crazy, but I love it. I love it. I'm sorry, I do. I don't care. Dan Housen and Jalen Brunson winning the tag titles together would be so fun. And by the way, here's what I do. If Brunson was down for it, you give Brunson and Dan Housen the tag titles at Saturday Night's Main Event, SummerSlam's two weeks later. Then you just do a one-off at SummerSlam. That'll be so fun. Let's see. How do you book interviews with WWE superstars?

1:14:58Do you first ask the superstar or do you first ask WWE? Has WWE ever refused to let you interview a particular superstar?

1:15:08That's interesting. Interesting. I usually talk to WWE first and then talent. Or I do both. But if I'm being serious and I want to get it done, I have to reach out to the powers that be at WWE. I don't go around them. Now, there are certain people. Big E. you know i'm let's just do it right you know if it's someone i a that i'm very close with who i know they're not going to have a problem with in any way you know even in our truth right like someone who's just been around for a long time for the most part it can be done really easily um but like if it's young talent like you know what i had jacob fatu that's not me just hitting jacob and being like yo you want to jump on now it did turn out very casual because we were both at ESPN, but my man Greg in PR was there.

1:15:55And I was like, yo, let's, let's knock this out. So to answer your question, I do, I go through the powers that be. I do. Um, all right. Someone else wanted to fantasy book, Dan housing at MSG. We already did that. Um, Joaquin says mom, Donnie cut a hell of a promo man. He did that speech. Mom, Donnie's promo speech at the parade. I've said it before and i'll say it again that was the best politician speaking at a sporting event thing i've ever heard my entire life i mean and then of course the people who hate mom donnie just raised the bar after that they changed the they changed it after that so he gives an incredible speech and now they can't deny it they're so busy obsessed calling him a communist now they can't deny he did something great so what do they say they go oh yeah it was great you know he didn't write that well wait first of all what how do you know that second of all wait when was that the standard no one talks about what trump writes or doesn't write i'd like to be quiet did i wake up the baby oh god um guys perfect timing because i gotta go um that's gonna do it for cheap heat live pro wrestling nation 24 7 on this juneteenth weekend hope you enjoyed the show don't forget we will do another patreon this week cheap heat live on patreon reach out and follow us of course on youtube on instagram cheap heat pod shouts to amelior sparks kelly zach the whole squad we'll catch you guys next week for sgg and dip i'm peter rosenberg your forever 24 7 champion we'll see you next week stay mage and enjoy yourself