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Cheap Heat with Peter Rosenberg

25 Oct 2025 · 1h 10m · 27 chapters

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In short

Cheap Heat discusses major pro-wrestling storylines and upcoming shows, especially WWE’s world title picture after Seth Rollins’ injury angle, plus NXT matches and AEW’s WrestleDream concerns. They also veer into comedic “smelliest wrestling” talk and Halloween Havoc hype.

Guests (hosts/regulars)

Peter Rosenberg (host). “Stack Guy” Greg (SGG) and “Dip” (Dipperstein) are co-hosts. They also interview Jimmy Uso (Big Jim Jimmy Uso) in the later segment.

Guest backgrounds

Greg and Dip are long-running wrestling commentary voices on GP Live/Pro Wrestling Nation. Jimmy Uso is a WWE performer, part of The Usos/Bloodline storyline.

Key claims

Jey Uso winning the Battle Royal sets up a more aggressive, heelish Jey and possible heel-vs-Sami dynamics. Seth’s return may not be fully babyface; Paul Heyman’s alignment could keep him tweener/heel. Becky Lynch’s Raw promo on Paul Heyman is framed as a “clean break” that keeps her heel. Darby Allin vs Jon Moxley at WrestleDream is defended as adult-style violence.

Notable examples

Becky calling Paul a “snake oil salesman”; Jey eliminating Jimmy and also yeeting Dominic Mysterio to win; Ricky Starks vs Trick Williams promo for Halloween Havoc; Sting’s new beard criticized; “King Kong Bundy’s grundle” used as a recurring gag.

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Chapters

0:37

Hosts' Banter and Updates

The hosts share personal updates and set the tone for the episode.

“oh hey how's everyone doing today welcome to the program how are you we're doing great how are you time for cheap oh god you kidding me i'm swell as can be welcome to the program it is the end of October.”
2:54

Upcoming World Championship Match

Discussion around the new world championship match and its implications.

“There's a lot happening in the world of pro wrestling.”
4:00

Character Dynamics in Wrestling

Exploration of character developments and dynamics among wrestlers.

“Does either of these new champions excite you?”
6:52

The Future of CM Punk and Jey Uso

Analysis of potential storylines for CM Punk and Jey Uso in the championship scene.

“He would have been like minus 200 to win the whole thing.”
10:32

Uso Brothers and Storytelling

Discussion on the Uso brothers' storyline and potential character turns.

“Because Punk has been hot away from the championship.”
14:00

Current State of the Usos

Discussing the Usos storyline and potential character developments.

“Jimmy, of course, now currently doing double duty between both shows.”
15:00

Dominic Mysterio's Title Prospects

Exploring Dominic Mysterio's potential title opportunities and matchups.

“Jay turning on Jimmy, it does two things.”
17:10

Reflections on Wrestling Elimination Rules

Debating the rules of elimination in wrestling and historical examples.

“I'm one of the biggest Halloween guys in the biz, or at least I used to be.”
18:30

Halloween Havoc Nostalgia

Sharing memories of Halloween Havoc and favorite wrestling events.

“I got to tell you, what a specimen this guy was in 1993 against the Nasty Boys.”
19:30

Wrestlers and Their Smells

A humorous discussion about the scents of various wrestlers and their personas.

“Should we do a Mount Trashmore, the worst stench in the history of wrestling?”
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22:50

Becky Lynch vs. Paul Heyman Analysis

Analyzing Becky Lynch's confrontation with Paul Heyman and its implications.

“The last thing anybody wants to think is, oh, you know what I smell?”
24:20

Becky Lynch's Future Direction

Discussing Becky Lynch's character alignment and future storylines.

“That leaves the door open for him to come back and still be a bad guy in spite of the fact that obviously the returning hero you think would naturally be a good guy.”
28:00

Discussion on Wrestling Characters

Exploration of wrestlers being discussed, including their character arcs.

28:35

Maxine Dupree's Rise and Gimmick

Analysis of Maxine Dupree's performance and her storyline in wrestling.

“No, I think you cannot rush Becky as a babyface, especially with all the work she's doing.”
30:28

WrestleDream Controversy

Discussion of the controversial matches at WrestleDream, particularly the Moxley match.

“It's going to work out good for her no matter what.”
31:06

Darby Allin's Wrestling Style

A deep dive into Darby Allin's character and wrestling style, including audience reactions.

“clearly but like, can we stop with the everything they do is gonna make kids kill each other?”
32:25

Promo from Ricky Saint with Trick

Preview of an exciting promo featuring Ricky Saint and Trick Williams.

“I mean, listen, he is one of those guys that when he pops up on the TV, you're like, I gotta see what the hell this guy's doing next.”
33:04

Ricky Saint's Character Development

Discussion on Ricky Saint's character growth and his upcoming match.

“What I'm particularly excited about is the champion Ricky Saints against Trick Williams, and Sam played this for me on his show yesterday, and I was like, you know what?”
34:05

Blake Monroe's Impact in NXT

Assessment of Blake Monroe's performance in the NXT women's division.

“That's a different version of Ricky Saints that we are yet to get on NXT.”
36:24

Discussion on Wrestlers' Images

A light-hearted discussion on wrestlers' appearances, including beards and physicality.

“I think Sol Ruka is the name in NXT in the women's division.”
38:03

Hairy Backs in Wrestling

Humorous segment discussing the phenomenon of hairy backs in wrestling history.

“I'm incredibly disappointed with Dip, by the way.”
43:40

Halloween Special Planning

The hosts brainstorm themes and topics for an upcoming Halloween special episode.

“They're big on WrestleCrap, but I like the Dungeon of Doom.”
45:20

Nikki Bella's Reception and Legacy

A deep dive into Nikki Bella's wrestling career and the fans' perception of her return.

48:42

Big Jim Jimmy Uso Joins the Show

Big Jim Jimmy Uso discusses his personal life, family, and returning to wrestling after a break.

“We have like 20 minutes, and I want to hit a bunch of stuff.”
56:00

Sibling Rivalries and Tag Team Dynamics

Explore the relationship dynamics and competitive spirit between twin brothers in wrestling.

“The thing older brothers, they got in them.”
1:01:50

Reflections on WrestleMania 40

Discuss the emotional and logistical challenges faced during their WrestleMania 40 match.

“We kind of just switched our persona, our look.”
1:04:50

The Uso Penitentiary Battle Rap Experience

Delve into the creation and execution of the Uso Penitentiary rap battle segment.

“I just had to remind my brother because he was like, man, man, they know we can cook, man.”
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0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy, you guys.

0:09The major league. Oh my goodness. It's professional. That's it. The king of kings. What do you think? The championship. I'm not even a person. Confirm. Not my age. Stay mage and enjoy yourself.

0:27it's cheap heat with peter rosenberg featuring stat guy greg and dip

0:37oh hey how's everyone doing today welcome to the program how are you we're doing great how are you time for cheap oh god you kidding me i'm swell as can be welcome to the program it is the end of October. And we are here alive and well. Alive and well. On GP Live. My name is Peter Rosenberg. My name is Peter Rosenberg. I am coming to you from a place called New York City. Coming to you in Philadelphia would be the physically large stack guy, Greg. SGG, how are you, sir? I'm doing fantastic, Pete. Can't complain. It's the end of the week. We get to spend some time with our lovely listeners. The perfect way, I think, to end the week.

1:19So I can't be doing any better. I want to hear more about Fantastic give me more please are good things going on? I mean what's happening in the world of SUG? it's just a good day you ever have one of those days where it's just like everything is clicking and everything is professionally personally I don't even have any real exciting good news on the docket but I'm just in a good mood right now

1:42I truly hope that rubs off on me that's what I'm going for SUG from now until 2pm Eastern Time that is exactly what I'm hoping rubs off of me I know one person who always brings nothing but charm and joy and good times to the show is 38 to 35 Dipperstein hey Dip how's Los Angeles you don't think that's true you don't think that I bring joy and there's no cynicism in my voice ever I don't know what you're talking about that's just not a thing I wasn't being SUG did I say that he wasn't going to bring it or I said he would bring it I think you said he I think you were on the side of that. He wouldn't bring joy.

2:25No, I said someone who surely will bring all those things is 38 to 35. Dipperstein, is everything going right in your world today? Just just joy everywhere. It's only 9 a.m. So there's hours and hours for things to go wrong and haywire. So I'm expecting a terrible day. But so far, it's been a great day.

2:48Well, I'm happy to hear this. This is good news. I'm confident that this will last throughout the day. Welcome to the show, guys. There's a lot happening in the world of pro wrestling. Where do you want to start? What is the most pressing thing in the world of pro wrestling in the eyes? Let me start with you, Stack Guy, Greg, in the world of Stack Guy, Greg. I mean I think it's the one thing that everybody really should be focused on right now is that we're going to get a new world champion uh right I mean I like the way it was handled I like that the Braun bronze were not rewarded for basically taking Seth Rollins out of the championship picture injuring him um in kayfabe and and that they could not get a championship opportunity so now it's going to be Jey Uso, CM Punk, I think for the first time ever one-on-one, world championship at stake, Saturday Night's Main Event.

3:47I'm curious to see who is going to be the champion coming out of Saturday Night's Main Event and potentially who will be the champion when Seth comes back because you know he's going to need that title back when he returns. I mean, let me ask you this. Does either of these new champions excite you? Are you like, I've been dying to see Jey Uso champion again, or I think it's CM Punk's time? It does. It does because of the possibilities it opens up, right? CM Punk was champion for, I think it was like five minutes or so this year. So he didn't really get a run at the top. This CM Punk did not really get to hold that title.

4:29And when they do that, will that mean that he's going to have to face Roman? Is Brock going to circle back around? Is he going to have to deal with the Braun bronze? I don't know. And the same thing with Jey, right? Jey, this is a different Jey Uso than even had the championship a few months ago. So this version of Jey, he's a little bit more heelish. He's a little bit more aggressive. I mean, he dumped his brother out of the ring to get this opportunity. Stabbed his brother in the back live on Netflix on Monday Night Raw to get this opportunity. So this version of J is exciting. And with Sami now being free from the United States championship, do we get a heel J Uso versus a super baby face Sami at some point?

5:11Let me ask you this. Dip, was there anyone you saw in the Battle Royal that you thought, ooh, if this person wins, now we're having a conversation? I know who wasn't on that list.

5:27Oh, yeah, I know. Well, we know what SGG just did the physical representation of L.A. Knight. But for audio purposes, he meant L.A. Knight. Yeah. Although I got to tell you, I'm going to say something totally crazy and off kilter for what I usually say. I wouldn't have been. I'd rather him have won than Jay. Is that crazy? It sounds crazy from you. It sounds crazy from you, but I get it. But I do get it. I just like I don't know. I, I, Jey Uso, it just feels like there's just a lot of recycling going on. I don't know. It's time for a new, I'm happy that Bron Breaker's all of a sudden going to get this push because, you know, something fine, you know, something good can, can come out of the situation there with the vision, the unfortunate situation.

6:12You know, I, I, I think a new main event star on, on raw is an exciting proposition, but just, you know, I don't know. I don't know who else could have won the Frank. Frankly, it should have been Jimmy. I would have rather have seen Jimmy won. You know, Jimmy winning that would have been the big move to make. Jay is like, of course he won. Yeah, I do think it was the most, if we were taking odds at the beginning of the Battle Royal, I think Jimmy, I think Jay would have been minus to win. Like, he would have been the favorite. He would have been like minus 200 to win the whole thing. I think that Jimmy winning would have been surprising.

7:02And I think at this point, it kind of makes it a guarantee that Punk wins. It can't be that they're going back to Jay with the world title right now. I just can't see that being a possibility. No, the title will be on CM Punk in December. That is a fact. that's a that's a i don't know what that is is that a it's a spoiler what am i what am i trying to say it's not a prediction it's a spoiler that's what you were trying to say okay i was trying i tried i tried that i think if cm punk's true moment ever comes it should really be towards the end i think that is the everlasting storyline of his final run is he just can't get it he can't get it and when he eventually gets it it's a true a true tearjerker and he holds it for a few months towards the end that that is when i that's i think the story for punk i'm fine with that i can only support that if it's entertaining i want a story like i you know i said the same thing with sheamus and it's kind of championship i feel the same way about cena i don't want the story to be this person deserves their moment because i can't believe when they're done when they're done and And then I have to tune in on Monday or the week after.

8:17I need more story progression. So if his moment comes with a story that I can get behind, I'm with it. You were always the biggest arguer that the title alone is a story. That's what you and Dip used to fight about. And Dip would say a title's not a story. Are you saying you've evolved in how you view stories in WWE? I'm saying that it can be, right? Like two people competing for the title can be the story. Right. But if the story is that whoever has the championship is plug and play, but this person has never had the championship or this person deserves to win the big one and that's not a story to me.

8:54Well, everybody on the roster is there because they want to win the big one. I know we got a break, but I'll push back because if the punk thing is he literally cannot get it back. He gets injured when he gets it. He gets screwed out of it five minutes later. if it keeps getting pulled from him. Yes, whoever has the title needs to have their own story in having the title. But that can be the driving story of CM Punk. Whenever, you know, Lucy pulling the football away from CM Punk, I'm fine to bring up Peanuts again. You know how we feel. We love doing Snoopy talk. I'm fine with that. I don't know what you're talking about.

9:29And he has no idea what it even means. But I don't think it's as cut and dry that CM Punk is going to win this championship. I believe he's going to win. but I think Jey Uso has some interesting possibilities right because it's not going to just be you win the championship and then they have to figure out what's going on they they must have a plan for what's going to happen after Saturday Night's Main Event as early as that next Monday and I think Jey opens up some good possibilities as well because he has also he's had issues with the Braun Bronze um him and Braun Breaker have feuded for the Intercontinental Championship and uh they had great matches for the Intercontinental Championship So I think that's just a built-in feud that they have right there for the world championship with a story that makes sense.

10:11Plus, this is a more aggressive Jey Uso, right? If this was babyface yeeting Jey Uso from, you know, the month of May going up against CM Punk, I think, yeah, Jey Uso loses. But I think just the story that they're trying to tell opens up more possibilities for Jey as champion, which is why I don't think it's so cut and dry that Punk gets his hands on the championship. Because Punk has been hot away from the championship. this entire time. Let me say what needs to be said. Where we need to go right now, based on how Jay has been leaning, is towards a full breakup between Jay and Jimmy again. It's time.

10:51I was going to say that. They're hinting at it. We all know the match at WrestleMania was a big letdown. They've been very forthright about that. Let's get to that. I think there's so many ways you could do it. Jay is obviously leaning heel at this point, so you think he's going to be the one who does it. So in that case, since Jay's the one who's leaning, I think the attitude Jay would have for turning on Jimmy, it should be more than he's just aggressive. It should be the savage turn on Hogan. Those eyes. I saw those eyes. That's what Jey Uso should be saying at Jimmy. Ever since I became the big star in the family, you've had those eyes.

11:35And Jimmy should be on some, I always supported you. I've been the happiest one for you. I was there at every single moment. You're in your own head, man. You're in your own head. That's where Jey Uso should go as a bad guy. P, I'm glad you said that. And I'm glad you raised that because you're right. I think that Jey being a rising star is going to fuel his sort of psychosis and his madness, if you will. and that's going to be the wedge that is driven between him and Jimmy for good. But you got to remember, you went to a specific storyline right there, right? And in that storyline, the guy that went crazy and unhinged was the champion.

12:16For Jay to go to Jimmy and say, you're jealous and you're upset about my success and you've never been happy for me, he needs to actually have some success that he can show. I disagree. To me, what I push back, SGG, is he already has enough. He has the entrance. He has the love of all the fans. He had the title for all that time. Because I think you could have killed two birds and one stone here. I think you could have had Jay turn on Jimmy in this battle royal and simultaneously then, Dip, and I think you'll like this part better, then Jay gets eliminated by the winner, which creates something new we haven't seen.

12:56By the way, even if it had been a, we know he's on the way out, we know he just lost, but it was a hell of a match. Even if AJ Styles had won, and we were getting AJ and Punk, and you're thinking, oh my god, AJ could be world champion one more time. That, to me, is more interesting than Jey Uso versus CM Punk, who we've seen hovering around the title for so long. Someone who has not been hovering around the title. that's what there's a lot of hovering there's so much hovering yes hovering and hovering it's so true i'm so sick of the usual hoverers somebody push back the hoverers and let other people begin to hover in their place i and by the way that includes la night i can't believe i'm saying this this includes aj styles in a more meaningful way this is a night's been hovering around the title though yeah he's hovered too he didn't get it he's a hoverer he is definitely for sure a hoverer i wouldn't call him a class a hoverer he's a minus hover yeah he's a class b hover okay i would have liked to have seen aj i'd like to see finn balor back in the title picture he was i don't know when he was there you know it just it's time to shake it up a little i i we're talking about the same people endlessly for i mean i'm i gotta be honest i'm a little bored of the usos situation do something with them let's see it the the the thing to do with the usos is to me a jimmy thing and we were it's a jimmy thing yes said dave matthew's band well done well done um and and we were supposed to talk to jimmy uh shortly here on the show i'm finding out now if we're still going to get him because apparently there was a time difference that was not considered at the moment that this was booked because they're in Phoenix for SmackDown tonight.

14:50Jimmy, of course, now currently doing double duty between both shows. But to me, that is really where the Uso story can be magic at this point one more time. Jay turning on Jimmy, it does two things. It, number one, completely reinvigorates Jay Uso, and at number two, makes Jimmy the star that he should be it boom you have two massive things going on the second that happens did you see how good the promo was backstage between jimmy and jay where it's all jimmy basically like jimmy is he's him jimmy is him you think jimmy's him himmy you saw if you will himmy uso he is himmy uso a thousand percent and i just so so we got jay uso and cm punk on november 1st one will be champion maybe someone else shows up that night to break the whole thing up and you know what i mean maybe it's that i don't know um but it would have been sexier if to me they'd pick someone we didn't expect i like that jay uso won the battle royal we know that if not jay i think dominic mysterio could have won the battle royal um he's got two belts already what's wrong with dominic going for three and then maybe walking into san diego his hometown with three titles dom versus punk that would be an exciting match we definitely haven't seen that one-on-one he goes in maybe he's facing Cena for the IC title maybe he defends all three titles in one-on-one matches at San Diego a Survivor Series I don't know but I like the idea of Don with more gold I don't hate it would have been something that's the question what can you come up with that something and different the shock and awe of Dominic I don't think anyone would have expected Dominic to win that even if he then goes on to lose to Punk again it's a at least a unique matchup we haven't seen a million times and he was right there because we're all talking about that that elimination that jay did to jimmy but he yeeted dominic too to officially win the match how how many times you see how long how many times that's been done in history dip the uh eliminated but nobody saw it jump back in the ring i'm big on the eliminated nobody saw but jump back in the ring that's one of my favorites i i'm big on that i'm actually not i'm actually a traditionalist once you're out you're out somebody saw you in the crowd you know it works every time though i gotta say when stone cold got eliminated came back in won the royal rumble i was fuming and i believe that was rumble 97 i was fuming because my you know my guy brett eliminated him and then he's just out he doesn't get the win yeah it's it's i i do have isn't it funny that the rules are completely arbitrary in wrestling and yet when i see it happen i do have a moment of frustration like but he was eliminated it bothers me like it like it sticks in my crawl a little bit i'm like i gotta tell you the guy was eliminated this shouldn't be happening in professional wrestling and honestly that's why he should have won because he was eliminated and he came back in that's drama scott i'm what i threw on halloween havoc 93 just to have yourself in the background to get yourself in the mode just to get myself in the halloween havoc mood mood because there was a moment in time where Halloween Havoc, besides the Royal Rumble, was my favorite event of the year.

18:20I love the Halloween gimmicks. I'm one of the biggest Halloween guys in the biz, or at least I used to be. You take your costumes very seriously. We know that. I used to. Marcus Alexander Bagwell. I got to tell you, what a specimen this guy was in 1993 against the Nasty Boys. I mean, I hope Buff is doing better. I was a Buff Bagwell guy, I got to tell you. I was too vicious and delicious. I love that tag team. I wasn't so big on the American males. I'm talking about two calls Scorpio here. Okay. Two calls Scorpio and Marcus Alexander Bagwell, one of the great tag teams in WCW history. I mean, come on against these disgusting, nasty boys.

19:03Can you imagine the body odor on Brian Nobbs in this match? You know, clean cut. Marcus Alexander Bagwell had to smell the body odor of these disgusting men. I'll tell you what, Dip. I was at the Ric Flair roast sitting front row with Pete, and Nobbs was on stage. Don't have to imagine the body odor. The Nasty Boys are still nasty. No, no. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I mean, I believe it. I mean, there is no chance. Let me tell you something. Should we do a Mount Trashmore, the worst stench in the history of wrestling? By the way, it's not a question I haven't asked wrestlers. Who are this? Who is the smelliest?

19:46It's interesting to me. Who's smelly is a very interesting question. I think it's interesting. Well, I mean, you have to imagine there was a solid amount of 80s stench. You know, there's no question. The whole decade smelled. Yeah, for sure. There was a lot of stench that was happening. But by the way, maybe the ones that you thought had the stench are all like surprisingly, like Brian Nobbs and Jerry Sags. What if they smelled like roses? Doubt it. You never know. Doubt it. What if it was Marcus Alexander Bagwell in this time? Mr. Clean cut Marcus Alexander Bagwell who had the stench. We don't know.

20:26I would say Bastion Booger. Yeah, number one stench. I think Bastion Booger might have had a delightful scent. Maybe Bam Bam. I'm sure Bam Bam wasn't smelling like Drakkar Noir. You know what I mean?

20:43it's a double whammy because it's the it's the cologne of the time also yeah that's really that was some of your honestly i will say right now that you saying i'm sure bam bam bigelow didn't smell like your car noir i'm putting it up there and dip the dip annals that that is that was an annals line about i made the tears of mage oh that's tears of dip mage bam bam bigelow didn't smell you could write that down as a quote in fact it should be the name of the podcast this week that which you could subscribe to anywhere you find podcasts right it should be called bam bam bigelow didn't smell like dracard noir it that is sure bam bam bigelow right i can't claim 100 he could have smelled fantastic i bet there are people in this world who who are no longer with us who passed away because they accidentally smelled the crotch of king kong bundy singlet what are your teas i always think i mean bundy might have smelled i don't know i'm thinking bundy was a well weak you think what was that what i think he i think that king kong bundy smelled like paco raban that's what i think king kong bundy smelled like is that another cologne Yeah.

22:03From the 90s and 80s. Yeah. You lost. You lost. That bag. Really? Yeah. I'm gone. I'm gone. One of the great smells. One of the great smells. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. If you would have had to go like cool water. Oh, well, that's that's like early, like late 90s, early 2000s. But by the way, I know you don't think I know cool water. I know cool water. Cool. You would have had to go cool water for me. Polo is regular polo. The original, the green polo. I mean, my grand my grandfather. Pop Pop Dave wore the green polo. The moment you walked into that house, you smelled the green polo. And I was like, oh, OK, I know where I am.

22:42It's Pop Pop. That's right. That's what I heard Bundy in an effort to emulate Pop Pop use the same thing. The last thing anybody wants to think is, oh, you know what I smell? I smelled King Kong Bundy's grundle. Nobody wants to. They were they were King Kong, Bundy and Pop Pop sort of the same shape in one stretch at some point. Really? Yeah. I'm sorry to hear that about Pop Pop. Did he did he was he managed to get out of it, though? He wasn't as big as Bundy. He wasn't as big as Bundy. You know, I bet smelled tremendous. If I'm being honest, I think I think sting one of the great smells in the locker room.

23:18You think so? Oh, he was clean, clean as can be clean as well. I'm I'm I'm Strikeforce probably smelled great, too. Tito and Martel at that time. You could tell from the hair. Not to mention Rick Martel. He smelled like arrogance. Yeah. Come on. These are people who smelled great. All right. If you want to talk about who smells the best and worst, there's so many different topics you can weigh in on. 877-344-4893. We're going to get to calls in just a moment. What else, guys? There was several things. Let me start with you, SGG. what did you think let's hear a bit we have i have the audio let's hear becky lynch confronting paul hayman on raw this past monday and then i want to hear from sgg and get your thoughts on it because i did think this was a fun potential setup for and i am curious to see how much involvement we'll have between becky lynch and what was the seth rollins storyline moving forward you have that audio over there uh healthinator i'm hoping that they don't fold her back into the the vision and what was going on with that i think that was a clean break or at least as i as i interpreted it the first time i heard it um that was a clean break between her and the vision but one that also didn't turn her baby face you know what i mean it kept it kept her aligned firmly as a heel in the women's division while just not messing with those guys well you have you because you can't it's an interesting situation because seth now has by nature sort of turned baby face potentially by being injured by heels right i don't think but not but again not necessarily because when he said as he did this week that he's going to come after everybody when Becky said that Seth's going to come after everybody Paul's affiliated with, obviously that includes CM Punk.

25:18That includes Roman Reigns. That leaves the door open for him to come back and still be a bad guy in spite of the fact that obviously the returning hero you think would naturally be a good guy.

25:34That's why I don't know if he's going to necessarily be babyface, right? I think tweener might be the way because if Paul is aligned with bad guys and he's still doing heelish things, but just against the worst guys, that doesn't necessarily make him baby face. That honestly makes him more of Roman Reigns in terms of character alignment. And then if he goes after Roman Reigns and CM Punk and they're still beloved, obviously he's going to be the person who is the heel in that situation or the bad guy. but heel for lack of a better term so i'm just i really do i really do want to see what it looks like when he comes back um because obviously the crowd reaction is going to play into it too are they going to be so in love with braun breaker that if seth puts a finger on that that's an new toy that they turn on him that is an interesting point we never know whether braun breaker is going to be the cheered for heel at this moment as well you know what i mean so like there's a chance that everybody starts sharing and one of the really interesting things about the whole situation is number one I thought this was obviously going to last much longer I think everybody did it was as it would be as fast it was SG I believe it was the fastest end for a Seth Rollins faction that we've ever seen so I can't imagine that was the intended goal all right let's go back um Zach has dug under the radio station and found the clip here's Becky Lynch on Raw Monday.

27:02Listen to me, you penguin-faced prick. You're snake oil salesman. Crap doesn't work on me, okay? I don't like you. I have never liked you. I have never trusted you, but neither did my husband. But unlike the people whose coattails you rode on, he didn't need you. He used you. He knew that you were going to turn on him. He's actually a little surprised it took you so long. But don't worry. When he comes back, he's not going to hurt you. You're nothing to him. Okay? And you'll be nothing without him. But all the people that you love in this business, all the people that you surround yourself with, whatever new Nepo baby you decide to attach yourself to, he's gonna kill them but he's not gonna kill you we're just gonna wish that he had wait nepo baby asher jade yeah you know who she's talking about she's talking about braunbreaker roman reigns she's talking about roman reigns that's it I think oh cartis axel can't forget him listen he was a heyman guy You think Curtis Axel caught a stray in there as well?

28:32I think so. I think so. Wow. No, I think you cannot rush Becky as a babyface, especially with all the work she's doing. I mean, look how much Becky has been helping out Maxine Dupree. Is Max Dupree going to be like something? I got to tell you, Becky made her look amazing. She is becoming amazing. I think she is. I don't know the crowd reaction to Maxine Dupree is like off the charts and she looks great in the ring all the movements made total sense to me it looked like kind of a it was a great time it was a great time to watch that match I will tell you so both times I need a third time I wouldn't be mad if she's the one that takes the title off third time might be submission match right i feel like that makes the most sense you need you guarantee the winner they both have uh submission finishers and i'll say this too becky made maxine look so good in both matches that by the end of that second match i was like you know what it's actually disrespectful that i feel like becky made her look good because i feel like you know maxine is doing doing what needs to be done in the ring right now and i i think maybe some of that boils down to chemistry but i do feel like a lot of that boils down to becky lynch and and i'm gonna give maxine credit too for just improving um in the ring and i gotta say the gimmick that they gave maxine of she's learning and she's training i think that that is such a perfect shield for her because when she has moments like this it's you know maxine is incredible the work is paying off she's shining But then if she has moments where she's not so polished, I mean, her gimmick is that she's a she's a tradie, right?

30:24She's still she's still learning. She's still she's still grinding. So it's going to work out better for her. It's going to work out good for her no matter what. I like it. I'm into it. Let her let her get her flowers. Did you guys get to spend any time with the WrestleDream? There was a lot of I saw a lot of controversy about the Moxley match. people were upset about Darby and Moxley which I gotta tell you I haven't watched every moment of it yet I've like started WrestleDream a few times made it through more of it, fall asleep, you know the gimmick and I've enjoyed what I've seen but I'll get to it all at some point but like, so I haven't watched it all so this is not the best place in my opinion to be making an argument from clearly but like, can we stop with the everything they do is gonna make kids kill each other?

31:14why wouldn't darby just tip the fish tank or or try to stand up or something like like it really wasn't that big of a deal i'm just saying why do people get so bent out of shape about these insane things that is what the darby character does if you have your kids watch a john moxley darby allen match you should have an idea of what you're showing your kids i'm sorry i i i'm not trying to be that guy but like this show is not Smackdown and AEW pay-per-views are not Smackdown you know that you're gonna get and frankly if I'm AEW I like that they roll the dice that way it differentiates them it's an adult it's an adult wrestling match like it's not four five-year-olds I'm sorry it's not I I love Darby Allin man I gotta tell you I've always thought he was a huge I always thought he was a huge star but I don't know everything about Darby Allin works for me.

32:07It always has. I love the hardcore tiny guy who's willing to go crazy and do crazy things. He's awesome. He's a big star. It would be great if he could talk. He's not a talker. That could always be worked on. I don't know if there's emphasis put on that for him in a real way, but if he really did it, I think it's possible he could truly succeed with that. Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, he is one of those guys that when he pops up on the TV, you're like, I gotta see what the hell this guy's doing next. I'll tell you what we're going to do next. We're going to talk more about professional wrestling, and I I want to play the Ricky Sense promo from this week with Trick.

32:39It was amazing. Plus, Jimmy Uso coming up in hour two as well. Plus your phone calls. It's Cheap Heat Live. Happy weekend. It's Pro Wrestling Nation. Sirius XM channel 156. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Introducing Chauvin Musk Actives. From the creators of America's Most Preferred Musk. A complete line of aftershades and deodorants for the man on the go. Chauvin Musk Actives for every day. All right, so Halloween Havoc is tomorrow. A lot of fun things on that card. What I'm particularly excited about is the champion Ricky Saints against Trick Williams, and Sam played this for me on his show yesterday, and I was like, you know what?

33:19This is fantastic. I got to play this. Let's hear Ricky Saints from NXT this week. Great. This is great. I love it. The same guy who walked in the PC one day hoping to make it. Now your ass can barely fit through the door. Don't talk to me about grinding on the indies because the stuff that I've been through, your ass would have folded like the shirt you got on. You understand what I'm saying? One thing about me is I could never, ever be a Trick Williams replacement. I'm the blueprint. You trying to be like me. I am smoother. I am silkier. I'm more stylish than you ever will be. I am the man that is the face of NXT.

33:58Do you understand me? This is my house. I'm locked in. Come Saturday, guess what? Yo ass is locked out because I am absolute Ricky Saint. I mean, my guy went up. He went up a level. That's a different version of Ricky Saints that we are yet to get on NXT. And that makes me very excited to see him and Trick. And I got to tell you, respectfully, I do think that it's jarring. He distances himself with Trick on the mic. In that moment. Yep. I mean, respectfully. Trick is a great talent, but you can see the gap in where they are in terms of turning up in a way that feels authentic when you get to that moment.

34:49SUG, agree or disagree? I agree. I won't say that's so much of a gap in talent. It's just... Or no, like current, current, where they are currently. I'm not saying overall talent. Yeah, but contrast is the right word because I feel like they both get you where you need to be on the mic. They both hook you, but it's just so different. I don't know that Trick has necessarily needed to be as serious and flip that switch and prove that he can go there as much as Ricky has had to so far in his career, especially in NXT with people, you know, comparing him to where he was in other places and looking at him a certain way.

35:26So Ricky needed that. and he knocked it out of the park and he did exactly what he needed to do exactly when he needed to do it. This makes me very excited for Halloween Havoc. What would you say so far, guys, on the Blake Monroe of it all? A couple months in to the Blake Monroe situation, how do you feel about where we are, SGG? I still need to see more, I have to say, because I feel like in NXT, their women's division is so strong. I know Sol Ruka went down, but the women on that show have been so good for so long. And Blake Monroe, she's not out of her depth, but also she's not, I don't think she's completely outshining.

36:12Maybe there's more potential there that needs to be realized, but I need to see more. I'm not ready to give her a grade just yet, but it is good news that she doesn't look completely out of her league. Because again, the women's division in NXT is strong, even with the losses of Raquel, Stephanie Vaqueria, and Julia just this year. I like Blake Monroe. I think Sol Ruka is the name in NXT in the women's division. It feels over right now. Yeah, I think she is a next level. I can't wait to see what happens in her career. I like Blake Monroe, though. I'm a fan. I think she's good. She's I would put her in, you know, just in the number two slot right now.

36:59As far as as far as the NXT women's division, a lot of great. I mean, the NXT women's division is awesome right now. And Blake Monroe also gives you like the traditional old school WWE, like blonde siren sable option that they have not had in quite a while. Right. I know it's a different a different era. I thought that's where I thought Scarlett was going. I thought Scarlett was going to be the next Sable. Like they were just going to be, she was going to kind of have the sexy thing on Smash as her character. And Blake Monroe seems like she's poised to do it. But by the way, the ill thing about Blake Monroe, and I just haven't seen enough of Scarlett's work, but I did see it from Blake when she was in AEW, is that then Blake can get pretty physical and intense in the ring also, which is a great combination and sort of unique.

37:50you can picture a wrestling magazine from 1985 with the blonde hair and the blood running down her face I'd see it in the store and be terrified not at a bodega, a newsstand oh god I feel very bullied today I'm feeling bullied I'm just being honest I'm just feeling up, this is a bully dip day I'm just letting you know my self esteem is a little lower today I put one of your jokes in the annals you did put my jokes in the annals 877-344-4893. I'm incredibly disappointed with Dip, by the way. I guess you have not finished WrestleDream. You said that. And you do not watch. So you didn't watch Mox Darby?

38:35I watched the highlights. And you had nothing to say about the return of... Old Man Sting? Yeah, Old Man Sting. Oh! So I had a fight with Sam Roberts about this. Okay. I don't like the beard. Uh-oh. I don't like it. It's not – it's Sting of Jays. Oh, boy. I didn't like it when he did the Joker thing. I'm a – as you know, I'm a traditionalist. I mean I just – You don't like red-faced thing? You don't like beard? No. I didn't mind red-faced thing. I didn't mind red-faced thing because that was like in my like true obsessed with the NWO era. Right. So I didn't mind the Wolfpack's thing. But I don't know.

39:20Something about the beard just makes me, it just makes him look old, and I don't like to see old Sting. It makes me sad. Well, I kind of feel that way about beards in general when they're unnecessary. Actually, I wonder if you felt the same way going back to Dip's childhood. It's not nearly as pronounced or as bad as Sting, obviously. But doing promo for his book the last couple of weeks is Allen Iverson. And I don't like Iverson moving around with, like, the grayish beard. I don't want it. There are some people where I'm selfish. It's me. I admit that it's me, but I do not want your gray beard.

40:02It's taking me out of it. Peter, you know how critical I am of your beard. I can't. I don't need it. You've been pretty lucky with the gray, right? Listen, I haven't been lucky in terms of many things with regard to hair and my physique in general. I have been pretty lucky with regards to the gray. Listen, the higher power, God, Yahweh, whatever you want to call it, they got to throw you something. So if they could delay the gray, I feel like you're old. I've gotten – I feel like you're old. Well, Greg, they've thrown him money, success, fame, and a beautiful family. So let's separate. Let's just, you know.

40:45SGG, I think you're right. I'm going with what you're saying. I think the least I could get. I've got no hair on my head, but plenty on my back. For God's sake, don't give me the gray. You know what I mean? If you have to have a gray back, me, you just got to give me back. I mean, the back won't actually have hair, but if I didn't do anything about it, it would. Imagine walking around with a gray back. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing worse than a gray beard is a gray back. You can't be a gray back. You can't. You can't walk out with a gray back. Was there a wrestler ever with a gray back? Well, did George Steele never went gray?

41:20That's where my hair, that's where my hair, that's where my head goes. That's where my head goes right away is George Steele. Who's the second most well-known Harry-backed wrestler? That's a great, by the way, great question. Thank you. Listen, they don't do these jobs to chips, okay? I know what the hell I'm doing. Asking who is the most famous, second most famous hairy wrestler. You're such an impatient. Harry back, though. Harry back. Harry back. This is the same day in which I said we should come up with a Mount Rushmore for stench. So I'm doing a lot of work today. Iron Mike Sharp. Do you have Harry back?

42:02Yes. I think he had a somewhat hairy back. Iron Mike Sharp had a hairy back for sure. Who else, though? We need a caller to bring us. Okay. Somebody freaking call into this show and talk. Let's talk about hairy backs. Okay. What wrestlers besides because George Steele is the only one everyone throws out there. If there's a wrestling legend, if there's a wrestling legend, maybe who's listening to the show, you know. Do you remember how repulse it would be when Savage and Steele would be going at it, and Savage would be in the corner, and George Steele would back his sweaty, hairy back up against his face?

42:43Repugnant. Repug. I mean, that is the most repulse situation of all time. I'm moments from doing the whatchamacallit. I'm moments from doing the laser. I'm doing it. Are you? I'm doing it. It's going to be like you have to go like six times. It's like a full opera, but I'm doing it. This is a lifetime commitment. I want to make this is it's it's it's wrong. It's wrong that I've had to deal with this my whole life. Honestly, it's been horrible. The second it started happening, I was like, is this something I'm about to deal with? I cannot deal with this. I don't want this. I don't need this. It's wrong.

43:19It's one thing to be jacked up and have a hairy back. Still a bad look, but you can sort of get it a little bit more. but to be a complete flabby disgusting piece of filth and have the hairy back now that's something i was unwilling to commit to in public this is this is uh truly remarkable uh stuff that we've discovered here guys um guys what should we do one week from today on our halloween special of cheap heat live so many so i mean we could theme this thing out we could we could talk best halloween havoc but we could also like and there's so many different directions to go then there's a there's a lot of crossover between horror and pro wrestling yeah we got from first blood matches helen cell firefly funhouse a little butcher got electrocuted for goodness sake at a wrestling match.

44:13Dungeon of Doom? Yo, I like the Dungeon of Doom. They get a lot of... They're big on WrestleCrap, but I like the Dungeon of Doom. I gotta tell you, I love WrestleCrap, by the way. It's so major. The Vader theme, I don't know if he used it in this event by 93, if he still had this theme, but the original WCW Vader theme is one of the scariest themes of any theme. It's one of the best. You remember it? Yeah. Vader's an old theme was terrifying. And then, of course, he looked terrifying. Another man who should have had back there. I think it was called Afro Rock, if I'm not mistaken, right? Is that what it was called?

44:51I don't know. The name of that theme? I think it was. It sounded like a storm. It was awesome. It was like the scariest, one of the best themes. I don't know if we could play it, but I don't know. Can I ask you guys a question? Yeah. why does it seem that like the crowd doesn't really give Nikki Bella the love I think they're going to give her when she comes back she came back this week because they they never did appreciate her as much as they should have I don't think is it is it like she was like is it something that like she because of the era she represents they like don't appreciate that she's actually good yeah that's exactly what it is that's exactly what it is what do you think you have thoughts you're shrugging I have thoughts I'm not going to comment on it I have thoughts though this is the place to comment on the thought I mean the next time there's something else you should do it's called shut the fuck up you went like this interesting I have thoughts alright I'll write you a letter about it but I just feel like it's a telegram I just find it like odd I just feel like whenever she pops up i get excited when she comes out like i i i personally am excited to see her work and be there and it just seems like there are moments when it when they react but for the most part sgg i just always feel like it's flatter than it should be yeah she falls victim to this thing that a lot of wrestlers unfortunately are falling victim to with the fans where her style they just don't appreciate you know her style and then when she has a good match she doesn't get the credit for it the one good match that she had that she got credit for was against ronda rousey because they sort of canceled it out they were like all right we're not going to give it to ronda so it must have been nikki bella but then her other great performances go to are chalked up to other people carrying her and i just don't think it's possible that you can have the career that she's had for the length of time that she's had and have been carried the whole time by the other women on the roster i think she's good and she's not getting her due and it's a shame that she's coming back as a hall of famer and still not getting her due it's just it annoys me because the fans think they're so smart and the fans are always so far ahead and the fans are this and the fans are that and then sometimes they just completely miss it as as a whole and i think that they miss it completely with Nikki Bella.

47:29SGG, you were very early on what you thought the Bellas did for the division, for women's wrestling, I should say, and I wholeheartedly agree. Dipp, were you trying to show me something specifically, or was that just for me? No, I want to play the Vader theme. Oh, hold on. Go ahead. Go crazy. Let's see if it works. Let's see if Dipp can pull this off. Volume all the way up. Speaker near the microphone. Now hit play again. We don't hear a thing. Now you've been bullied. It was all the way up and by the microphone. So if you didn't hear it, then you're not going to hear it. I don't know how to get it.

48:01That's so weird that we didn't get that. All right, you know, we'll play it for the people, though. The people need to hear this. It was scary, though. So can you guys think about that over the course of next week? Let's try to theme out what we do for our Halloween special next week. I'll tell you what we're doing for you guys, though, right now. We've done enough on Harry Becks. A man with no hair to be seen, except for on the top of his head, which I'm very jealous of, is Big Jim Jimmy Uso. He'll join us next right here on GP Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following.

48:32Double Dragon 3, the greatest martial arts adventure, continues with all new weapons, characters, and street fighting moves. Double Dragon 3 from Acclaim, twice the characters, three times the action. Jimmy, what's good, bro? Welcome to GP. Hey, what up, Booth? Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it. Oh, no, we're happy to have you, man. It's been a minute. We have a lot of things to get to. We have like 20 minutes, and I want to hit a bunch of stuff. So before we do that, though, we got to check in. How is Wifey doing? And how are you feeling about getting back in the game one more time? Because you've had quite a gap.

49:08For sure. For sure. Hey, man, Wifey is still – we're still in awe to this day. Every day we look at each other. Like, she's really showing now, which is now we're starting to believe it. Right. She's doing well, man. She's still getting used to being off the road. She's still getting used to turning that brain off. I told her, your job now is to relax and sit down somewhere. So I think that's the hardest thing she's trying to do, man. But other than that, she's doing really good, brother. And what about you? Like, I know that you had wanted more kids. I know that idea was appealing to you. But you do have a couple of older kids, man.

49:47You've done this before. You're not quite as old as me. but you're close and i know what it's like to jump in this infant game in our 40s it's a new ball game how does it feel like is it scary or is it like more exciting because now you're like truly an adult who can kind of be present in a different way this time around hey you said it present is everything i stand on right now i had my kids when they when i was a 20 21 you know so you know i was i was in a whole i was a whole nother mindset a whole nother game i was trying to get into the game. But now that we in the game, got security, man, we did our thing.

50:25This round, having our child at 40, man, I'm so excited, brother. Like, I'm so locked in. But I'm also more nervous. I'm like, I'm on edge on everything, you know, because I was 21. You didn't know? Nothing. You just kept it moving. Now you got these phones. You got technology. They showing me. I'm looking at things. I'm like, man, what the hell is going on here? But, you know, Trinity met my kids when my son was four. My son would be 20. And my daughter was two. And, you know, she said, you know, these are my kids. We've accepted it, man. And, you know, to sit here today to have our own, I'm telling you, dog, it's so – I got goosebumps right now because it's very different.

51:11It's super different. But you said it was present is everything, and that's where I stand on today. The craziest thing is, too, if I'm doing the math right, when we go back to the announcement that happened, it was right after the PLE. And Trent had just done the thing with her dad. And I remember I saw you in the hallway right after it happened. And she was, like, getting her makeup touched up or something. And I was like, yo, the thing with your dad. I'm as a new dad I was all emotional about seeing her out there with her dad did you guys know when she had that whole experience with her father that she was also with child at that moment man I'll tell you this the day she announced on Monday that raw we found out Sunday because Because she was, bro, I'm telling you, she was pregnant at SummerSlam and everything.

52:11She was getting ass kicked with a whole baby up in her. And we had no idea. That's so crazy. It was. So when Sunday, when she told me Sunday night, man, she was just losing her mind, dog. And then we get to work Monday. I'm not there. You know, that's the only regret I hate. I wasn't around her just to, you know, to make her feel safe. Because that was a big thing. And for her to break the news, you know, we got to tell him. I was like, we got to tell him. Like, what else are we going to do? Like, what else are we going to do? We got to, you know, it's a show. The show got to go on. We got to pivot.

52:42We got to move, change, and all that. But for it to happen at the biggest run of her career, bro, she just couldn't believe it. I want to ask about that announcement because something that struck me as kind of funny when she gave the announcement was she's talking about the whole family, and she mentioned that she's having a baby, and then the crowd starts breaking out into a Roman Reigns chant. What went through your mind when the crowd is chanting Roman Reigns as your wife is telling the world that you are actually the father and you're about to have a baby with her? Oh, yeah, yeah. What went through our mind?

53:17You are not the daddy. What you mean? What you mean? What y 'all talking about out here, man? Yeah, man. Hell, we got to go Amari then. What you mean? Yeah, that's what I thought. I was like, why are they chanting? I get it. It's a bloodline. Another memory. Right, right, right. You know how our parents is. They're throwing it out there already, man. All right, so let's get to that. So let's get to the bloodline. I'm so happy for you guys. It's going to be an amazing time. But let's get to the less important, the wrestling of it all. Another memory I have, and I'll just, you know, I've already started sharing personal conversations and not remembering the line of what's real and what's behind the scenes.

53:57We had a conversation at WrestleMania like a year, this past year maybe. and you were joking around being silly about your brother when he was about to win the title and you were like man jay's whatever blah blah you're just being you you know the same way you'd be with your brother anytime and we were kind of goofing about it and it and i said to you i'm like man you guys have unfinished business and the things you're saying right now as a goof would be really interesting to hear said out loud because your brother has went on this amazing run Now, of course, in real life, he's also the whole time talked about how great you are.

54:33But for story purposes, I still feel like there's gas in the tank. And with this new approach that we've seen Jay having, it certainly seems like that's a possibility. How much would you love to get the chance, now that you guys are both in a different place, to do this thing one more time and really get to kick your brother's ass on the biggest stage of them all? We have a sour taste from the first match we had. You know, this bloodline conflict, it's always cooking. People like when we have conflict in the bloodline for some reason. I like it too. Hell, it's just normal though. This is how our family is.

55:18This is really how we wrap. When things go down, it's really how we get down. Where we are today, man, I'm all for it, man. You know, this whole attitude with brother, you know, don't mistake Big Jim's kindness for weakness, man. You know, it's in me to peel back. It's in me to take a step back. I ain't got too many steps to give to take back no more. It's not that time for me to put the foot down, you know. So I told us, man, you know, whatever you got going on, all right, man. I'll always be here for you. But they listen, man. They say, I don't want to not like you, Jay. You feel me? I don't want to get to the point where I just don't like your ass.

55:58And that's why I sit back and I just bite the tongue a little bit, you know. The thing older brothers, they got in them. Older brothers already got this built in them, you know, especially when it comes to your siblings, you know. But sometimes you need to be smacked across the head, smacked, you know what I'm saying, to wake up a little bit, you know. Now, did you have moments? I know that you took joy in seeing what he was doing at the top. But we're all human beings. And you guys have been doing this your whole life. And you guys have become literally, if not the best, one of the greatest tag teams of all time.

56:38But everybody at WWE knows that you really are him. And that your brother knows. Came on this show and told us. everything he could do basically you could do better um so was there a part of you that was he said that he really did he really did you sure it was him and not my other brothers um and and no he was just giving you all the credit in the world and but you know listen we're all human beings i know i'm very honest on this show i talk about my own professional jealousy we all deal with things like that um and jay's had a run that's been just absolutely epic um how much did you sit there and think man if they love my brother jay wait till these people get a full look at what i'm capable of every day it runs to me it was every day when he comes out every show i'm at every every crowd reaction every pop and it's all around the world man You know, there was a time we was on the same show.

57:43I came out first. You know, we had two different matches. It was weird. I had a match early on in the show, but I remember I came out, my music, you know, it is what it is. I'm not saying I don't like my, I love what I'm doing. But, you know, every time I see brother come out, there is another level. You know, there is a certain superstardom that he's reached. I go around the world, man, it used to be, hey, what's up, Uso? You the Uso? You the Uso? I told you this. Man, I go around the world now, people call me you. Mm. So, yeah. So, there's a different little, yeah, bro, listen, I'm grateful for it, bro.

58:18I love it. But I'm also, it's bittersweet, too. It's also like, man, y 'all just, something, there's a dog in there that just still leashed up, man. I haven't got a chance to get him off the leash yet. But I'm feeling like that leash is damn near hanging on by one chain link. It's damn near about to crack. But I do, I go around the world, they'll be like, hey, what up, Jay? And I'll be like, you know, I'll just throw it back at them, man. I was going to ask, I was going to say, what's the response? Because, like, I go out in the world and people literally yell out my co-host Ebro's name. They'll be like, Ebro!

58:52I'm like, I'm not. And it's hard. You're like, well, in one sense, I don't want to be rude and ignore you. But in another sense, you're being rude because you're getting my name wrong. It's an awkward situation. Well, the good thing is me and brother are really twins. At least you're twins. You know what I mean, bro? Just looking like, so I just eat it up. It's all good. Hey, if I'm hooding up, I just keep it moving. Hey, what's up, bro? That's what it is. You know, it's in and out. At least I'm a twin. You know, I feel sorry for you. I got that dog. My bad. You ever take pictures as Jay where people are like, Jay, can I get a picture of you?

59:24Hell yeah. Oh, all that, bro. All that. What you mean? Bro, I'm trying to in and out because I might be like, nah, are you Jim? Yeah. Man, I thought you were Jay. You ain't Jim. And then it's a whole another conversation Now tell the truth. Was there, how long did it last like even backstage where you knew that a lot of people who worked there, maybe not like, not the people in the locker room who are with you every minute, but where like a lot of people backstage you knew still really didn't know the difference between you guys. How long did that last? It's still going on today, Uss. No, no, it can't be.

1:00:04It's still going on today. All my kids, all my wife. And you know what? Even the closest homie that, that like, they've been there our whole career. Hey, Jay. And I'll just stop. And I'll just look at him. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. I did not mean to call you that. I was like, bro, I've known you my whole career. I've seen you my whole career here. You've had all my you tell me what I got to do, what match I got. I know you. You know me. You know me. Know you. But I got to give him hell, though. I got to give him hell. did you guys make a specific was there ever like a specific moment when you said hey let's do more to look different and i know that when you guys were in face paint and everything you had different looks back then but the truth is y 'all were a new and a sort of mid you know mid-level tag team so people didn't pay the same level of attention so was there a specific point where you like yo we really got to do something here to differentiate or did it happen sort of just organically it happen organically it was it really did because you know we did the paint right even when we went to us all paying attention we was still we just didn't have the paint on and i'll never forget it was like when we did that switch you know and the character changes everything you got to evolve around this business when we did the switch we was like yo we don't want to wear no paint and they told us that the higher-ups at the time it was like you need to paint how the hell we're gonna tell y 'all apart from Roman and I remember going what from Roman I remember thinking like how bro how bro we all listen we all look alike we all got the same ink on us like but we don't you can tell the Usos from Roman now you know but it organically happened I think once we split once we did the bloodline once me and Jay split that's when we really started looking different you know I grew my hair, I had to cut his hair.

1:01:56We kind of just switched our persona, our look. But it's still very much the same. Like, if I was in his shoes, I'd look like him. If he was in his shoes, if he had Rosaverse, I'm telling you he would be looking like me. But have you guys always been, personality-wise, so different? Because, like, you have similarities. You guys get along. You're yin and yang. But you are also markedly different to just your aura is markedly different. Has it always been that way? It is, man. Like, I got Class Clown, Homecoming King, all in high school. I'm, like, very – I was the popular one. He was right there, but they were just like, Jimmy's a bit more nice than this one.

1:02:39Every time Jay walked in, he looked like he mad at the teachers and why we got homework and why we got projects and why we got – so I was always, like, the outspoken woman. But he's the one, bro. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to cap on it. He's the one that, what I think, like if we in there, like if we in like a situation where like we feeling some kind of way or some kind of disrespect going on or something, I'll sit there and think it. He'll rat it. He'll say it right off the bat. Sometimes I'll be like, maybe we should, you know, not say things unsaid. He'll just say it. And he'll be right.

1:03:14Like I'll be wanting to say it, but I'm like, damn, you should have said that. But he'll be like, nah, hell with that. He'll just go. So I always loved him about that. I always like, there's been times, the situation where I saved him. Like, boy, shut up. Well, we don't need to say that right now, dog. You tripping? We trying to get out the fire. You throwing gas in the fire. But then there's some times where he'll say things, I'm like, yeah, dude. Or he'll, you know. You really are yin and yang, dog. We very much alike, too. But very much different, dog. I wanted, not to take it back too far, but you mentioned the WrestleMania 40 match and that it left a sour taste in your mouth.

1:03:47We heard Jay's side of the story. From your perspective, though, what do you think... I don't want to say, for lack of a better word, what do you think went wrong that night at WrestleMania 40? Was it just time or was there more to it that made it annoying? Yeah. I say it was just time, bro. Like, you got two twin brothers, man, that finally get together. They're going against each other, man. This meant a lot for us, both of us. So we thought we was going to get to cook, man, especially, like, with our angle and how we've been such a part of it, this whole story. And, you know, we've just been leveling up every year since.

1:04:18and uh when we got there man man you talking about yeah hell yeah i was pissed off hell yeah i felt some kind of way but then it's like hey just remember this no matter what they telling us today and how much time we got or whatever they want us to do out there understand this brother don't let this that take away from our moment though it's me and you in there it's wrestlemania dog we in the city of brotherly love i'm going against you brother i'm happy i'm blessed I'm fulfilled today. So, like, other than that, man, they couldn't take me off my rocket, man. They couldn't take me off my high horse.

1:04:50I just had to remind my brother because he was like, man, man, they know we can cook, man. They scared to give us 30. They scared to give us 30, dog. We about to steal it. They better give us nine hell. Hey, here's the thing. Here's the thing, when I found out the time and brother had the Wayne entrance, I was like, bro, I said, bro, just let me get in there, bro. Just kill me. just duck spear me boom splash me boom once we throw we just get the hell up out of there squash match what you think it was like you know days like now we need something yeah you gotta give them a little something well damn if we give them a little something we letting the fans down our field we need we can't even cook the way y 'all want us to cook that's such an interesting thought whole minutes because if you because if you decided once you get the limited time if you go squash at least that's an incredible story point they ain't ready for it i was like they ain't ready for no squash, bro.

1:05:40Kill me. One, two, three. Get the Wayne back in and start partying. Let's go. Get the other five to somebody who, you know what I'm saying? Not to sound disrespectful, but that almost does sound better than the direction that it went in. Yeah, because the nine is weird. I was ready to do that. I said, bro, let Wayne stay out there. He ain't got to get out of the ring, brother. I'll go shake his hand, turn around, spit my ass, splash my ass. One, two, three. Hell, pick me up. We can all dance with Wayne. I'm a fan of Weezy, too. Speaking of the raps, you mentioned the Uso Penitentiary. That night, the battle, shout out to Kaz, shout out to Wale.

1:06:22Don't get it. How big do you think that battle night, first of all, how fun was it? What do you remember about leading up to it? Were you surprised with how well it was received? Because I'm not going to lie. I knew everybody involved. I see Wale, I know what it means to him and I still assume this is still in the respectfully, this is still in the Vince era, I'm like man a rap battle, this is not gonna go well, and it ended up coming off so well take us through that night for you guys well you said Vince's name I did, you're right though we said we pitched it, man this was like we was big on battle rap when we switched to the Usso Fennitentiary, I told brother, I saw this tag team battle rap.

1:07:08I said, brother, this is how we got to fire off right here with our promos at least. We just finished each other, which was, that was easy because we twins already. But we pitched the battle rap with The New Day. And they deemed it to be the most horrible segment of wrestling. And everybody was like, a battle rap, but, you know, it was different in our brain. And when we got there, we thought it was just going to be us in the New Day, like in a backstage safe, doing it. But then we got there, you know, we had all the Uso extras, the little, the homies with the bandanas and their hoodies on. And then they got the whole parade looking like, you know what I'm saying?

1:07:47They got that whole thing jumping. And when I tell you this, dawg, we did rehearsals just so everybody could see it. I started to get into it. But then once we got there, it was supposed to be Uso's one whole round, and then the New Day one whole round. And we got there. New Day wanted to break it up. They wanted to do Big E go, then Uso go, then a Kofi go, and then the other Uso go, and then Woods finishes it. But I told her, brother, I said, damn, they didn't want that whole round because we was just going to get to just cook without having a break. You know what I'm saying? So once we found out that the three were going, then Big E got his raps.

1:08:23Kofi got his raps. Now Woods got his raps. Now we had to go back in the locker room. We had to sit there because we just had a whole round. We just going to tell the whole story. Right. You know what I'm saying? But then once we found out it's one, two, and three, I was like, damn, bro. They done broke the ship. Excuse me. They done broke it up. Oh, you can say that. Yeah, we're on satellite. You're good. All right, for sure. So then when we had Big E, then me and brother went in the back, and then we rode a round for Big E. Then we rode a round for Kofi. And then we rode a round for Woods. Oh, and boy, do they keep it as one round.

1:08:52Because that round was for Woods. Well, check it out. The whole rap was going to be about the tape. We're going to call it the tape. the whole round the whole round was going to be specifically on that he like it was just one bar we said we just said that one bar but that's all that's all we needed though well listen that's all it all now is part of of the great lore that has gotten us uh to where we are um we gotta we gotta wrap up here jimmy thank you i know this was last minute but i've been wanting to get you on for a minute and i feel like you're on the precipice of more greatness so i was like let's get this conversation in before my man is completely out of here and then we'll do it again and look back.

1:09:37Thank y 'all, man. I appreciate you, man. Appreciate y 'all. It means a lot to me, though. Nah, right back at you, man. You know I got nothing but love for you and Trent. Your whole family is the best. His name is Jimmy Uso. Apparently, he'll be on SmackDown tonight because he's in Phoenix. So, go ahead and watch USA tonight. He'll be there and you'll catch him on Raw on Monday. Have a wonderful weekend, to everyone. We'll be back next week with our special on Halloween. Enjoy Halloween Havoc this weekend. Shouts to Kelly. Shouts to Zach. Thank you very much one more time. Jimmy Uso, my man Greg Domino.

1:10:08SGG, have a great weekend and we'll catch you guys next week. Stay mage and enjoy yourselves.

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The MAJesty debates whether CM Punk should win the World Heavyweight Championship now or if his victory deserves a more emotional story. Plus, Jimmy Uso joins the show to talk about Jey’s superstardom, Naomi’s pregnancy announcement, and the possibility of running back a WrestleMania rematch with his brother.


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