

Cheap Heat’s “Night of Champions 2025 Preview” episode. Hosts Peter Rosenberg (Philadelphia) and Greg “Stack High” Goldstein preview upcoming wrestling matches and debate recent WWE storylines, especially John Cena vs CM Punk, plus King of the Ring semifinals and other Saudi Arabia–set bouts. They also joke about their wrestling group chat, baby Maya updates, and Dip eating string cheese.
No named guest appears in the transcript. “Dipperstein” is teased to arrive “in just a moment,” but he does not actually join in the provided text.
Cena’s promo/pastiche of Punk didn’t land as hard as the original; Cena is expected to retain the title vs Punk. Potential interference is discussed (R-Truth, Rock killers). A “double turn” between Cody Rhodes and Cena is considered plausible. King of the Ring semifinals set up Randy Orton vs Cody.
Water-spit moment with Triple H; baby photo featuring Becky Lynch, Bianca Belair, and The Undertaker; Dubai chocolate milkshake; Cena’s “pipe bomb 2025” promo debate.
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Discover the significance of the 'Oracle' nickname and its implications.
“I can't believe they took the Oracle from you.”
Engage in a humorous discussion about dealing with flies and the nature of group chats.
Hear about the lack of engagement in a wrestling group chat and its impact.
“And you can get this off because we need a new group chat and because they might not even hear this, which is more reason why a new group chat might be in order.”
Relive the moment when Peter Rosenberg did the water spit with Triple H and the mixed reactions.
“In all seriousness, you're doing a group chat with people about wrestling.”
Discuss the reaction (or lack thereof) to sharing baby pictures in a group chat.
“And truth be told, I rarely did it well.”
Explore the unwritten rules of visiting friends with babies.
Learn about the amusing encounters the hosts had involving a baby meeting various celebrities.
“So, so the baby this weekend, it was the funniest thing that happened was that after the weekend, my friend, Jeff was kind of complaining to me about not having met the baby yet.”
Discover the playful banter about weekend activities and baby milestones.
“No, the baby, this is an important question.”
Hear insights and critiques on John Cena's recent promo and its impact.
“That was the wrong way of doing it, but you get the idea.”
Explore the effectiveness of shocking promos in wrestling and audience reactions.
“Somebody dug up footage and the shout outs that he gave to Claudio and Nick Nemeth, Dolph Ziggler and Matt Cardona.”
Engage in a humorous debate about food preferences and unhealthy eating habits.
“That's the most worrisome thing going on.”
The hosts discuss the trend of Dubai chocolate and its absurd pricing.
“I can't think dip seriously with the street cheese.”
The team shares their thoughts and predictions on the upcoming Cena and CM Punk match.
“going to get John Cena and CM Punk this weekend, though.”
Hints about exciting upcoming news related to the podcast and listener interactions.
“off was at WrestleMania 5 sorry and somebody said Rock Hogan no Rock didn't turn you're right it was it's a rep.”
Discussion on the desire for more wrestling content in the WWE vault and nostalgia for classic episodes.
“The big news is I am replacing – I'm kicking Andrew Goldstein out of the group chat and bringing back Brian Campbell.”
Explore the hosts' requests for more wrestling content in the WWE vault and reminiscing about classic shows.
“By the way, I'm all for people taking off if they need to be off.”
Discussion about the history between Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton, including past matches and their significance.
“So that's why we gotta get a promo 85 83 to 94 Yeah 83.”
The hosts preview various upcoming matches, sharing predictions and analysis on potential outcomes.
“We can't be up till all hours of the night.”

Get the gist, explore an idea or ask about something said.
On Cheap Heat with Peter Rosenberg, what are the key points of this episode?
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0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy. The major stick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The major king. 24 seconds. A thousand percent confirmed. M-mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. M-m-m-m-m-m-mage. M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m. Male. Muzzer. Bitch. It's still rooted. Bitch. Male. Muzzer. Bitch. It's still rooted. Oh, I'm sorry. That's best. Sweet, sweet�곳man. Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was Rappod. It's professional. Wrestling. Oh, man. The world's number one sports recreation podcast, Cheap Heat, is back. I'm your forever 24-7 champion, Peter Rosenberg, joining me from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
1:21It's the OTC of Cheap Heat, Stack High, Greg. That's right. Formerly the Oracle. I don't know how long I'm going to be able to run with that because I hear the trademark and nicknames and all that over there in WWE. So I might have to give that one up. I can't believe they took the Oracle from you. I can. I can. It was good. It was good. People didn't believe in me as the Oracle, but it is a top tier code name if there's one available still in 2025. I mean, I don't know why people wouldn't buy it. You did very Oracle-like things. Yeah, I did. I did. I was predicting the future. I was preaching.
2:03I was trying to give people the big picture. And I can understand why Paul Heyman and Seth Rollins, a visionary, would want to associate with an oracle. I completely get it. um so that is a big piece of news obviously out of the gate uh dipperstein will be with us in just a moment i see a bunch of people already here early in the chap colton summers is here andrew clark uh megan yusuf golden rams rob kyle aaron uh jay vega spencer matt clark david james shout out to everyone who's joining us god there's a what do you what do you do about like the the hovering fly that gets you in your apartment like a it's impossible to get it is yeah i like feel guilty killing the fly because they do nothing but like i don't like them all up in my face i don't i first of all i don't feel guilty i'll tell you that much right now they like you said they're in the space then they they take the risk of what happens when you when you when you get too close but also it just keeps flying right by my face i want to yeah i want to punch it right its face my kung fu is not on point these days so i just surrender it's over like in my younger days i might be able to swat a fly you know snatch one out the sky but you know what i find you know what i find the most irritating about that i don't tell me if you've had this experience what i find particularly irritating about it is i'll do it i'll swat it i'll feel contact and it i don't get it oh yeah you know that you don't time out you'll pull this move you pull the move and I'm like I hit it how is the fly still going it's still going like full strength no nothing happened I didn't make no impact it's bothersome it's worrisome it's troubling it's proof of our mortality it's what it is just we lose now SGG we have a lot to get to someone said get the electric swatter I can't get the electric swatter I can shout out to that person it's an aggressive thing to have in your house it is it is it just feels like a lot but it might be necessary now SGG as I said Dipper Scene will be here in a minute a lot of different things to get to from the world of the wrestling and we will do just that but first and foremost it's become clear to me that I need a new group chat, guys.
4:39That's become clear. And you can get this off because we need a new group chat and because they might not even hear this, which is more reason why a new group chat might be in order. I mean, SGG, it's just repug, man. I mean, you have a wrestling group chat, okay? Think about the level of nerdiness we're already having here. All right. There's a there's a group chat where the conversation in the group chat, the purpose of it is surely to revolve around pro wrestling. And you send things to the group chat. Someone, maybe the most productive member of the group chat when it comes to support this side of SGG, Zach Linder.
5:31He's the glue. He's the glue. Zach is the glue Zach sends the group a clip of me doing the water spit with Triple H and SGG until you saw it a while later because you were obviously busy until you saw it a while later no one said a thing and it was top tier Triple H stopped whatever I'm sure he was there to talk about the gate and we got tickets and we're going to be a great night in Riyadh and all of that. He had to stop before he got to all of that and say, Peter did really good. He said this at the press conference. In all seriousness, you're doing a group chat with people about wrestling. One of those people is not only on stage hosting the SummerSlam kickoff show which is pretty cool but they're also on stage with triple h doing the water spit and and crushing it and all you get is sgg uh zach puts it in there sgg comments and then there's basically nothing else what am i doing what what friends are these i mean look at this people if you were busy over the weekend.
6:59Maybe you didn't see it.
7:03What the hell are you doing? I'm warming up. Look like you were trying to do what that baby's got in his diaper. Now, I'm going to tell you right now. One more time. I was dreading when he said, who wants to see Cole do this again? I was dreading him asking me if I wanted to do it. First of all, there was no way you could not two out of the three people are there doing it you have to do it you have to do it it's the ultimate peer pressure yeah and carlos ferrera said is goldstein in the chat yes yes he's the second worst offender the by far the worst is shoemaker literally worthless but then goldstein the reason goldstein is in some ways more offensive than shoemaker is shoemaker has already said i hate you people i have nothing to do with this chat there's nothing i mean if we if we jumped in the chat and said i'm sorry all three members of cheap heat have perished they are leaving the group chat shoemaker might not respond the reason goldstein is the spit in the face no pun intended is because goldstein has something to say about everything every damn day he's got a comment about something he liked didn't like every week there's something you know how how great he thought the mcafee gunther matches there's always something for him to weigh in on and i send what i'm about to show you guys and get nothing let's let's go ahead sgg and show people what i did here so i now now cole messed up triple h says let's start over again let's try to do this hold on now you came now bear in mind guys this comes at the end of me co-hosting the entire thing i've never i've never done this before with michael cole i'm in the mcafee spot right here it's a big spot i already got through an hour i had i had punk we had we had rio we had cena we had randy we all these things live streaming packed room with thousands of people i'm feeling good it looked pretty good i felt pretty good about it all but now here comes the spit.
9:15Now remember, I'm a loser just like you. I have practiced the spit before. But it's been a long time. And truth be told, I rarely did it well. Okay? Oh my god. Here we go. Hit the music!
9:45My timing's not great, but don't worry about that. And Cole, the first mistake, everybody else puts the mic down, but Cole, he can't do it. Now wait for the second one in particular. That was the money. Triple H peeped that. He peeped that. He saw the respect. Did you see the respect? Yeah, he's like, hold on. Well, by the way, the first one's good, too. I'm just a tiny bit late, but don't look at Triple H. just look at me and and don't think about the timing just the actual misting of the first bit it's the musical cue though because they queued it up at the wrong spot so he just had to get to it right because in the entrance the water spit happens at a particular spot that is just like epic it lends itself to that second dragon's breath and they i'm gonna blame the music cole had his own problems but but i told stew you could see me saying it's stew i did it i think i kind of killed that.
10:43I think I kind of killed that. I send that, guys. You're just like a wrestling fan like me. Imagine sending that you did that to your group chat and got eggs. Just imagine that. That's like a tombstone-worthy achievement. Here lies Peter Rosenberg. He spit the water with Triple H at the bottom. When put on the spot, given the opportunity to do the water spit with Triple H, he nailed it. That's like first paragraph of the obituary. No, I think it's second paragraph. You think so? Well, no, second paragraph is usually something bad, right? Yeah, that's first paragraph. Yeah, second bad. The second one was like, you know, he feuded with Nicki Minaj at the...
11:32Officially bumps that down, I think. Yo, look at that. You're out there spitting hot fire and the group chat let you down guys that wasn't it that wasn't it it was worse than that guys i sent a photo of my people have seen this photo some some of you may have already seen it now my instagram i sent the group a photo this is a good line hold on
12:05mark says road warrior hawk to a spit levels you know respect should have been the caption now late now but that should have been the caption listen i sent the group chat a photo of my baby, my five-month-old baby. It was her, Becky Lynch, Bianca Belair, and The Undertaker. I don't think anyone responded. Legends and future greats. That's better than greats and near greats. Yo, imagine. Guys, you're all just like us. You send a picture of your baby with The Undertaker. and and no one responds i like it i didn't i didn't put a comment you're you know i loved it i loved it actually i got news for you you're you're you're already good you know you don't you actually don't even have to respond to this i put the heart i'm just saying you you put the heart anyway but you you already support everything depristine was there so he's he gets a pass but I mean Shoemaker and Goldstein Shoemaker never responded the whole weekend came Shoemaker didn't see Shoemaker has no idea this is a thing the Triple H spit the Undertaker picture did I send the Cody picture too I don't think you sent the Cody picture I don't think I don't think you said they were good enough for the I think it was over at that point because you did you did come from it so I think by that point it was like that you don't even get the Cody now listen as j vegas says they no sold the baby pick it's time for a new chat night come on bro this this is just the baby this weekend by the way that's what i said the baby does need to start training now it's time to get her ready because i mean if she's she could already be starting um a faction with becky and and bianca yeah oh that damn fly fly you saw the fly you saw I didn't see the fly.
14:06I saw you. I saw you try to get a. So, so the baby this weekend, it was the funniest thing that happened was that after the weekend, my friend, Jeff was kind of complaining to me about not having met the baby yet. And he saw a picture, the picture, the baby met Jane Daniels this weekend too. Her name's. Yeah. And so he started making a joke about all the people who have met the baby before him. Now he doesn't realize he's making a, a, a, a baby less friend. mistake here that he's not realizing you have to babyless friends have to say we want to come see the baby when can we come that's the pilgrimage you have to make the rule you can't be like wait for the person to say hey can we make a plan for you to see the baby you gotta just say hey when can we come that's so you gotta that's i i really do believe those are the rules okay now he's not that far.
15:02He's just in Brooklyn. But so he's making a joking complaint. He was close enough for a pop-up. Oh, yeah. All he has to say is, hey, you guys around this weekend? We want to come by. That's it? Yeah. Not even this weekend. He might be able to catch you in the neighborhood. It could be a weekday. It could be a weekday. He might be like, yo, I'm around. Are you guys around? So he's making a joke about how the baby met Jaden Daniels and he started making a joke about all the people the baby would meet before him. And it crossed my mind at that moment. I was like, no, the baby really met the Undertaker before you, bro.
15:30like that's crazy I don't even know the oven taker like that this weekend the baby met hold on let's go over it the baby met four superstars that I've probably met your stack guy count these up you may have to write these down baby met Nikki Bella Rhea Ripley Randy Orton
15:58Sammy Zane Cody Rhodes Alexa Bliss Damien Priest Bianca Belair Becky Lynch The Undertaker
16:22Seth Rollins was too good to meet the baby? Seth Rollins Sorry Sorry. Come on. It's a freaking weekend. You already know. Come on, man. You know Mr. and Mrs. Freak had to come through. Punk held the wrong baby. That's what I got to say. I'm not trying to start no baby. You know what Punk said to my wife when he saw the baby? This is not knowing who my wife or the baby is. CM Punk saw my wife backstage with the baby and said, why isn't that kid in school? What's wrong with this guy, man? punk what's wrong with you man non-baby having friends just don't know i guess well first of all punk she's five and a half months old second of all it's saturday it's saturday i mean what are we doing punk like what come on man we got problems why are you doing this why we have problems um but anyways it was a very it was a very very interesting weekend.
17:24No, the baby, this is an important question. Your boy Alan said, did the baby meet Tom Brady? No. I did not. There was no need. The baby met who mattered. You know what I mean? Exactly. I was going to say, that baby met winners. Oh, I mean, Carlos Herrera makes a great point. That's a mortgage of fanatics. Yeah, if I'd been paying for all those mean grids? Yeah. Carlos says, is Maya going to be on the next LFG or is she going straight to Evolve? Come on. Straight to Evolve. Yeah, we're not playing. she's she's vanity project maybe straight to evolve she's gonna be she's gonna be zeta steel's young girl you know what i mean running around doing the dirt for for zeta steel oh man speaking of which her pacifier uh maya's that is maya's pacifiers come out of the mouth i might have to go yeah she's not she's not truly fussing yet let's see if she just falls asleep we're gonna see she might be good all right guys we're gonna check in right now but It's dangerous.
18:21Before we get into the big wrestling, it's time to check in on what's going on in Maya's crib. Here we go.
18:33That was the wrong way of doing it, but you get the idea. Yeah, that was meta. Yeah, that was too meta. You didn't need that. I never seen myself from the same angle so many times in one angle. Let's do it properly. There you go. Let's check in with baby Maya I almost say she's getting through it Yeah She didn't eat it She didn't eat it She got rid of it to get a more restful sleep Is what it looks like So SGG a lot going on This is a great question here by Carpstar Whose crib is bigger Maya or Dib
19:18anyways SUG so let's start with Friday night we finally got something from John Cena that I think bona fide no matter how much hating you're doing qualifies as something now what level of something did you think the pipe bomb 2025 from john cena was are you asking me like right now i'm asking you right now i'm gonna say oh no i didn't i wasn't feeling it oh i wasn't feeling it i know people look yeah that's where i'm going with it and look really yeah i i like the callback I like that it was another R-Truth match, another table spot, but I don't think it played in 2025. For one, Punk, we love Punk.
20:16He's our guy, but the way he just laid there and sold it, it didn't sell it for me. It didn't. And then, you know, John Cena going through and hit Punk with his own bars. It was cool. Until it wasn't, and then it just dragged on because it was just like, all right, this is not working. It wasn't as good as the original. It wasn't. And I think a guy like John Cena, for as smart as he is, he should have known to stay away from that because he knows. He knows the phrase, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And he knows that the phrase, the full phrase is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness, which would mean that by him trying to pull that, he outs himself as the mediocrity to CM Punk's greatness.
21:16He should have just left it alone, done something different, done a little bit of a wink and a nod, but to try and go bar for bar, line for line, and turn it back on punk, I don't think it hit as much as the original hit. But I will say this, though. Did you peep? Somebody dug up footage and the shout outs that he gave to Claudio and Nick Nemeth, Dolph Ziggler and Matt Cardona. People are saying that's due to an interview that you did with Punk before WrestleMania 29. Where Punk shouts those three guys out and then pooh poohs all over the main event of that WrestleMania, which was The Rock and John Cena.
22:01I did see that. That did seem to be what it was from. I'm not 100 % sure, but it seemed to be that. This is interesting. Now, I'm going to push back a little bit. And now, you're not the only person I heard who was disappointed. I talked to someone, a very notable person, very notable person in the industry. In the wrestling industry or just like entertainment industry? No, the wrestling industry. Who was disappointed? They thought that it just wasn't as shocking as it needed to be to really hit. It was like the safe version of shocking. Including, actually, they specifically referenced the names that were used.
22:52Like there were way more edgy names that could have been used. Because when you think about it, Claudio, Matt Cardona, and Nick Nemeth are kind of the safest. Claudio is probably the safest AEW name you could use. Matt and Nick are both WWE adjacent. I mean, Matt is begging to come back. Matt's at the door like this. Well, and Matt's wife is in the company. Nick is on Busted Open and is like, he's around. you know like he's so with that but i i don't agree with you actually as dip of course is eating uh pure shit what slim jim it has to be slim jim adres it's it's unbelievable it is truly unbelievable what this man eats it's not string cheese at least when when when dip when dip eventually goes to the pearly gates two things i'm sure of will happen one no one in our group chat will even respond i'm gonna send a i'm gonna send a link and it's gonna say it's gonna say hollywood agent falls off cliff dead 39 years old goldstein will make will like wait an hour and then make a bad pun and that'll be it we'll move on and when the doctor does the autopsy they'll say it wasn't the fall from the cliff this man has been eating pure shit for 39 years so sgg next year is that what you're saying i mean i mean i said this is if it happened now we're gonna hope for the best let's call it 89 years uh sgg just said he was not moved by the cena promo he he didn't like the uh the cm punk laying there prone for 10 minutes he didn't think anything he said was that out there thought it was just kind of ho-hum you thought ho-hum yeah actually he said this
25:02the most impactful part of his promo was basically inaudible and it was at the end right before he threw the mic on CM Punk what did he say at the end that was inaudible I have no idea but he was like thanks for letting me use your promo to make you look like a fool or something like that something to that effect I don't know you can barely hear it but that was the heat to me but it was just it came too late some other lines that he had you're no longer the voice of the voiceless you're a freaking millionaire despite yourself which I did like that line people could say the same about us a lot of it a lot of it wouldn't a lot of it wouldn't be accurate but um you're not punk you're a capitalist you're not against tko dude you are mr tko see i like that because they knocked your balls technically off your body you didn't even need that part i don't know i like it wasn't it wasn't ho-hum you thought it was more than ho-hum i think ho-hum plus
26:10i liked it i i thought it was could it have been a level better and crazier sure and i hate to be sgg here but there's still time maybe he keeps going maybe he keeps laying saying more stuff but i thought it was pretty good it surprised me my biggest concern guys is that our fears about our truth appear to be unfolding in front of our very eyes. That's the most worrisome thing going on. Our truth is really who got jobbed out in that segment when you think about it. Again, again, by the way. Like he did last time. Exactly like he did last time. Dip's got to go. He's going to his fridge. What do you think he's getting here?
26:57Some other... Coffee creamer. No, no, string cheese. Yep, I called it. There it is. There it is. The man does not eat food. Two logs. Two logs. He eats like a six-year-old. It's crazy. What are your thoughts? Beef jerky and string cheese.
27:17It's carbless food. It's not only carb. It's foodless food. Yeah. Look at that. That was a nice tear. That was nice. What percentage of string cheese do you think is real cheese? what percent of cheese is real cheese yeah like how much of it is just plastic that he's peeling off and putting in his mouth which company is that sargento sargento could be cheese you trust sargento i do yeah well they're they're sergeant they're military people they're sargento for god's sake they rank higher than other cheeses like you know what do you mean um the funny thing about dip is he's completely manorexic doesn't want to eat anything but he's also but he's also not adult enough to just like eat a salad or a smoothie i've never seen the man get a smoothie or like smoothies he doesn't like smoothies go fruit no fruit no no dip i had this week one of the most blah blah blah things happening in new york city i don't know if this blah blah blah is happening in la but the level to which it's in New York right now is completely off the rails.
28:32Tell me more. Dubai chocolate. I can't think dip seriously with the street cheese. Are you, dip, are you keeping up with the Dubai chocolate? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I had a Dubai chocolate cheesecake the other day. Oh, boy. It was probably$16. It was exactly$16. It was$16 for a slice. How much are they price gouging with the Dubai chocolate? It's unbelievable. Can we get Dubai chocolate on a bagel? It would be a 20-60. I want to tell everybody something about the Dubai chocolate. Yes, it's ridiculous, and it's over the top, and it's just the next thing. But last night, Natalie and I said, we're finally doing it.
29:18We'd seen it on social media. We got the Dubai chocolate milkshake from Shake Shack. Oh my god Bed Bath & Beyond Bed Bath & Beyond Bed Bath & Beyond Oh my god The bites of the crunchy Inside the milkshake It's fantastic Should I get it tomorrow? I'm serious? Are you a milkshake guy? I could be a milkshake guy Are you like a sweets guy? I prefer savory
29:55as you can see dip's fine taste is for only the finest
30:03this guy is just happy as a pig and shit eating his
30:10oh god all right so so neither of you were blown away by the uh by the promo uh we are going to get John Cena and CM Punk this weekend, though. What do you think is the result that we'll get from this match? I think Cena retains. I think Cena retains. I like it. You know how much I love CM Punk. I would like to see CM Punk take the belt off Cena this weekend. And I'd like to see Steph Rons cash in. Oof. Hey. What are your thoughts? I'm not mad at that. I'm not. What are your thoughts on Akashian this weekend? CM Punk gets the title and immediately loses it. I'd like to see CM Punk win the title.
30:55I think that'd be fun. And then immediately lose it. No or not. Whatever. But I'm just saying I think the idea of CM Punk shocking the world taking it off of Cena would be something. We need something. It'd be nice to have something going on. I don't disagree with this take from your boy, Alan. The rock killers interfere. Yeah, that archer. How do we see the people? Where are the people? I see comments. There you go. I need every episode to have dip eating string cheese. No problem. Yeah, by the way, that is an easy one to remember.
31:28I don't see CM Punk winning this match. I don't either. I don't see it. I'm sorry. How do they get out of it, though? They don't want him losing clean. They're not going to have him, you know, something. You have truth sitting right there. It could be R-Truth interfering. And what I like about Cena retaining is that, you know, with the way these finals are set up, you have a SmackDown SmackDown final. So at SummerSlam, he's either going to run it back with Orton or he's going to run it back with Cody for that WWE championship. And I like both of those options for for Cena. Cody seems like the no brainer, right?
32:07It does. For who? Cena? To take it off Cena? Yeah. By the way, if you believe what Cody revealed to emerging wrestling journalist Kay Adams the other day, it seems... What are you saying right now? I mean, she just all of a sudden randomly started interviewing wrestlers all the time, and now he said to her the other day that he's maybe turning soon. Oh, that state just ran with that. He's not turning anytime soon. Did you guys watch it? Was there nothing from it? I didn't watch it, but it's Cody. I don't believe it. I finally discovered. I don't know how they got there. I swear to God, because I didn't buy it.
32:51But a couple of boxes of Girl Scout cookies showed up in my pantry. Have you tried these s'mores? They're new. No, there's a new one. They're fantastic. So why don't you just ruin all the string cheese you're eating and just house some s'mores? please tell me dip rizzed up k adams after seth talked him up you already know you already know he did not he what well i'm sorry i can't i can't we can't live in we can't live in falsehoods tip you got to stop you got to stop you can't you can't actually do what you're doing if you're being ironic and intentional then you can do it but like i'm not being ironic you didn't you didn't hear how loud you were just chewing into a microphone no how is that possible you're looking at yourself on video chewing into a microphone going i don't hear the is it loud as you do was it i hate to do this stuff what the fuck are you doing are you out of your mind you can't if you're eating and also the cheese is kind of silent okay that's what i was gonna say it's for he false advertised because the people was promised more straight cheese he came from was that pretzel?
34:06Like, what is that? I don't even know. Was it those mixed nuts? What is that? This is, what the hell is going on? Kyle Stevens, he's a great guy. I don't even know what did. ASMR. Also, is that the people were promised straight cheese. So I gotta tell you, it didn't seem like he was being acting there. It did not. That seemed like a real answer, that he thinks it could be running out of gas here. But also like in what time frame, right? You can't have Cena turn heel and then Cody Rhodes turn immediately heel after it. They have this crazy thing. They have an amazing thing in wrestling. It's not done in any other thing in the business, in entertainment.
34:52They have this amazing thing called a double turn. And guess what? I got news for you. I don't know if you guys could tell after the pipe bomb. People are already ready to cheer for Cena. But here's the thing about the double turn How often How often are they executed And then executed well I can think of one time What's the one time WrestleMania 13 Where a double turn was executed well WrestleMania 5 Double turn Yeah Demolition powers of pain
35:33big double turn don't forget I wonder if that list has been made what are the best double turns here's the deal if they pull up it's very smart Peter if they do pull off a double turn between Cody Rhodes and John Cena in December sorry which one did you mention SGG Bretton Austin somebody mentioned Macho Manisharia Manish 7 that wasn't a double turn macho man turned miss elizabeth stayed baby face sherry stayed heel macho man was the only one that turned uh dip demolition and powers of pain is listed here thank you mage all right so keep going you were you were saying dip no i was just saying the idea of having cody become the heel and cena become the face we know that cena is ending as a face there is no way the man is retiring and going out as a as a heel so if the way to do it is to get Cody over as a as a heel and Cena over as a baby face at the end I think it's it's wrestling that's wrestling it's on the table guys you're right about Survivor Series 88 by the way the the blow off was at WrestleMania 5 sorry and somebody said Rock Hogan no Rock didn't turn you're right it was it's a rep.
36:51But the rock didn't turn.
36:57Now, listen, if you happen to be consuming us on something else like Twitter, go subscribe to Rosenberg Wrestling on on YouTube and also to everybody who's just listening today. You know, they're probably listening on Thursday. Keep your eyes open because there is going to be a little bit of cheap heat news that comes out into the world on Thursday. and it Thursday as in like tomorrow from now as in the way as in they're hearing it right now from any of you it's probably already out there so go look around check my social media look around go out get out there is that what you're saying go take a look go go go there's it might already by the time you're hearing this it might already be out there and I'll say this the only hint I'll give you is we think it's very cool news and it will affect your cheap heat consumption in a mage way I believe my feeling is in a mage way and I think there are people who will hear it and have mixed feelings on it based on certain things but I truly believe and I don't know very much guys but I do know the radio I'm pretty good at the audio I think in the long run everyone will go this is very good for what these guys are doing so just keep your eyes and ears peeled big news coming up soon it is no it's it's it's it's pretty big news pretty big and it's it's more bigger than pretty big i would say i would say big plus big you're saying plus for fans of the podcast for for egg everything's for people who have been with us from day one no if you're if you're an egg everything or any sort of patron or like a you've been a day one-er this is this is it's big news and it affects your involvement in the show will be directly affected by this everybody meaning the listeners involvement will be affected directly well that mean that they can interact with us more or how what do you mean by affected directly meaning shout out to jefferson who is a great guy who works at uh at espn new york and wears the uh rocky forever cheap feature which pause me every time um what i'm saying sug is if you're someone who likes the podcast and you like being able to interact with said podcast the news that they're going to gain that they're going to learn will impact their ability to interact with said podcast positively impacted right correct of course positive what do you mean i'm not an attorney i'm an attorney i need the clarification i need to you know is it going to be a negative impact Are we bracing people for something?
39:39You know what the big news is? The big news is I am replacing – I'm kicking Andrew Goldstein out of the group chat and bringing back Brian Campbell. That would be mage. He would have things to say. And we would get the same quality of all-color jokes at the same time. If we were to just exile Shoemaker from the group chat, like one day we just boot him from the chat, how long would it take for him to know? I don't know. It might be a year before he has any idea he's no longer in the group chat. So we did get winners in the semifinals of King of the Rings. So we'll get Randy versus Cody. Cody and Jey Uso with a banger, in my opinion.
40:28Yeah. A lot of fun. you get randy and cody is this is this our first time finally getting it randy and car yeah in this oh yeah in this version of it yeah since he's been back i wonder if oh no they will smackdowns in riad right yes so we'll probably get a promo friday between cody and randy to set things up. Wait, no, did Cody defend against Randy Orton? Did he already? I don't think he did. I don't think we've been there yet, have we? I'm not sure. I don't think we have. Can we talk about West Side Gun and some of them? Gallivanting around Paris and the gallivanting? That's the way to do it.
41:14They are gallivanting and gallivanting. Yeah, they're gallivanting of a storm. Confirmed. Are you following the gallivanting? No, I haven't, but I know that I know they were on their way to gallivanting, but I haven't. I've never seen gallivanting like this. Yeah, no, it's some of the great gallivanting we've ever seen. They should send pictures to our group chat. It'll be completely no-salt. They could send a picture having a three-way with Macron. Goldstein wouldn't say a word. He would just wait and then mention a random joke about wrestling later. By the way, I'm sorry. My take on McAfee should have gotten beat down way worse by Gunther.
41:52really aged well by him not being on TV the last few weeks. The finest wine that aged like the age perfectly. By the way, I'm all for people taking off if they need to be off. I'm not throwing stones at that. You know, the physically vacationing. Nothing to say about that. I'm going on paternity next week. But if he was going to take off for a few weeks, how about he get beaten half to death? I like this Matt Clark idea. I like this. All right, Matt Clark, here we go. the next cheap heat shirt should be a spoof of the travis scott wrestling is real shirt but say wrestling is great with pete sug and dip on the back yeah you know what it's not a bad idea i'll tell you what i did this week completely changing the subject i may change the subject from the subject that he changed you'd already changed the subject yeah i made i made the request this week for more wrestling challenge episodes on the WWE vault and also all American wrestling episodes to be on the WWE vault.
42:58Now I'm obsessed with the vault. Who are you making this request to? The people. The people. The vault people. The people. Oh, the vault people. Oh, the vault people. Yeah, John vault. Yeah, John and Jimmy vault. John and Nancy vault. But wait, aren't these shows already on? No. There's no, there's no. There's only a few episodes of wrestling challenge from 86, which are mage and 87. I've seen them all 10 times. And then there's no all American wrestling on the vault or on the network. So I asked for all American wrestling, one of the great shows of all time. And hopefully we get it. So what was all American wrestling again?
43:39It's one of the shows, one of the weekly shows. But like from when?
43:46I would say It started in 87
43:52No All American Wrestling Before we get too deep in the weeds with that though The last time Cody Rhodes and Randy Oren Fought one on one was 2013 If I was wrong he did not defend the title So that's why we gotta get a promo 85 83 to 94 Yeah 83. Dip Cornette. 83 to 94. What the hell channel was this on? USA. Oh, I didn't have cable. You didn't have cable. No. We didn't have cable back then. 83. I'd say my family got cable in I don't know. 88, 89, 90 in that range. But even then it's possible I wouldn't have known that USA had wrestling I was only turning on channel 20 and channel 5 what was channel 20?
44:52MTV? no channel 20 in DC was it was it's a UHF channel I'm looking at the Wikipedia and then it was replaced by Action Zone in 94 remember Action Zone? I know it existed I was out by the way you say Wikipedia? yeah that's what he said no you said what do you say as you that's exactly what he said that's why do you say that wikipedia what is that wikipedia no no wikipedia wikipedia no it's wikipedia whatever what what time was the show oh hold on the show was the predecessor to tuesday night titans and science event originally filling the 11 a.m eastern slot on sundays vacated by Southwest Championship Wrestling.
45:43I never, never in my life did I see this show. I mean, maybe I've seen it on the network. I've seen this logo. SGG, you don't seem very familiar with it either, are you? No, I'm not. I had cable. Can I get some new co-hosts to know about wrestling? That would be great. I watched Challenge. I watched Spotlight. Yeah, Spotlight was part of things. What do you mean part of things? Spotlight wasn't its own show. Yeah, it was. Spotlight was its own show. Was it? Yeah, all it did was show weird other things. It was awesome. Spotlight would show house show matches from the UK. I remember being kidding going, what the fuck is this?
46:26The British Bulldog. Oh, yeah, Wrestling Spotlight. Right, right, right, right, right, right. You're right. Jesus. Damn, Nick got us up out of here. Dip with Seth and Becky as special guests. So we've been fired. That was quick. All it took was 30 seconds. All Dip had to say was, you don't know All-American Wrestling? Wait, do you watch this? You watch this as a kid? He wasn't born. I watched them all. He wasn't born. Did you see the years? You weren't of a conscious age until it ended. What are you talking about? Which show? All-American Wrestling. 94? You were five years old. I watched my first event was SummerSlam 1990 when I was three at the Spectrum.
47:12You don't remember that either. I remember it. I have a memory. I have a memory. I remember it. You were sitting down in front of the TV at four years old to watch Oregon wrestling. Yes, I remember. I remember Orient Express a thousand percent at that event. I remember watching the Orient Express. But but but hold on. What year were you born in? 87. Oh, you were born in 87. So let's SGG. He could have realistically remembered like the last four months of all American wrestling right before it went off the air. Because when I tell you, I watch Challenge and Spotlight. I'm talking about 87, 88, 89 SGG.
47:54I'm talking about being eight, nine, ten years old. Like you were capable of taking in something that you saw four years. You know what? You want to see what dip was like? watching all-American. That's why Brett was my favorite. I was born in 85. By 92, he was that guy. SGG, you want to see what it was like when Dip was watching All-American Wrestling?
48:21It's Maya in the crib right now. You guys are schmucks. All right. Hold on real quick. Let's go through the card. I got to go to bed. We can't be up till all hours of the night. my Wikipedia lost the page I was on because I'm looking up all American United champions so we have Randy and Cody guys I'm taking Cody to go over here I am too I feel like both options are great but I think that Cody and John Cena is the more exciting option although I will say I think it's a shame if Randy and John ended with that one random R-Truth interrupted match in St. Louis of backlash I think that's a shame for their history.
49:04Asuka versus Jade. I'm going Jade. I'm going Asuka. Jade. Asuka's the queen of tomorrow. She can't also be the queen of the ring. She's the empress of tomorrow. People are ready. Jade's ready for Asuka. To be an empress, you have to have multiple kingdoms. So, you know, what's going on? I think Cena's beating CM Punk, guys. Yeah. I don't know how, but I think he is going to get past him. CM Punk said the one thing that has always proven to be the downfall of wrestlers in history. He looked at John Cena and he said, you have never beat me. And never has the wrestler said that, that I've seen, and then go on to win the match.
49:52Shawn said it to Undertaker when he was trying to end the streak and then got beaten into retirement. Seth said it to Roman. Granted, he got choked out, but he didn't walk away with that title. And I think that those words, leaving Punk's mouth, means that Cena is going to walk out with the championship.
50:11Fatou, Sokoa. It's feeling Fatou. It is. I got to say, this match to me has like show Steeler best match on the card potential just because I don't know what they're going to do, but it feels primed for them to show out. I'm going to pick Solo, though. dip you're not interested i think it ends in a schmoz with solo winning schmoz with solo winning um yeah eileen fatu but we'll see or i'm going ria over raquel sorry ria's got to get some things done here oh i like that by the way it does feel like after what happened this week are raquel and roxanne gonna end up being the tag team and live's gonna be the odd one out i feel like it was headed that way anyway but like i did say that they've been they've been plotting i'll tell you what raquel and roxanne sound great together i believe they were tag team champs in nxt also weren't they so it makes perfect sense they do have a history together and you have carrying cross and sammy zane i'm going sammy carrying cross but i also sammy threw a hell of a punch on monday that thing looked awesome i'm going carrying cross they love Sammy in Saudi Saudi Sammy that's what you call him we love it we love Sammy we love him so much it's a home game for Sammy I'm not betting against him out there and I just hope someone has a bad match so we can go they don't know what the fuck they're doing sorry I dropped a bunch of curses today I apologize hopefully Emilio catch them on the produced version keep your eyes and ears on news on thursday uh are you guys both around i start my paternity leave which means i'm chilling so i'm definitely down for a patreon this weekend i'm around friday i'm around i'm around friday friday's my only day i can't do sg i'm so done on friday i'm going to i'm going to austin on you know what i got the i got the equipment we can try the equipment crystal goes to sleep crystal goes get some coffee i'm going to the uh the bezos uh wedding you're going to the bezos right yeah majeure there i heard they're uh they're serving gourmet string cheese oh sargento which was why by the way if you're wondering why dip had so much charcuterie at his birthday party it's because all he eats is string cheese anyway it's the perfect way to go to everyone who joined us uh different ways make sure you subscribe to the cheap heat podcast wherever you find podcasts and of course that rosenberg wrestling youtube channel And like I said, guys, just keep your eyes peeled on Thursday, social media and all that stuff for the GP news.
53:02We got big news coming. Let's not underplay this news. We got big, exciting news for the GP universe coming. What are we talking about? It's monumental. It's late in the day.
53:14I'm very, very excited about this. It's the new, new, new, new, new, new era. I've been feigning ignorance, but I am excited about this. I'm trying not to oversell it. I want to just let the people gather the news and make that have their own opinion. I'm not a page. Listen, it's the wrestling business. What do you suggest that we're supposed to promote? I guess you're probably right about that. All right. No, there's mage news. Keep your eyes and ears peeled and let us know what you think. We'll be back with a patron this weekend. Stay mage, everyone. Definitely. Take it easy, may.
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