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0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy.

0:09The Majors League. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The King of Kings. 24 minutes later. 100%. Confirm that. Not Majors League. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. it's cheap heat with peter rosenberg featuring stat guy greg and dip

0:36oh ladies and gentlemen what's happening there's sounds everywhere welcome to the program everyone it's cheap heat live i am peter rosenberg brian dipper seen you there oh i'm here baby what's happening there's all kinds of crazy things happening at the performance center right now guys i'm gonna have to delete uh cancel out of things we're gonna figure things out sug you there in philadelphia how you guys doing man i'm doing great something's definitely going on right now there's something oh yeah something's going on there something's going on oh yeah everything has been quit we are okay i'm all right there was a there was some complications here this morning at the uh wwe performance center in beautiful orlando florida but uh we are here and we are okay we have a big big show dip you were uh you were missed last week and uh we're very happy to have you back thank you very much thank you very much a rough week but we're good we're here we're back baby we are we are alive and well i know you missed the healthinator i know you missed the peckerheads i know it's hard for you the peckerheads missed you i know i can say that for sure you know that for a fact is that what i know what the discord is saying that's what the discord is saying that's it by the way it's not just the discord saying a lot of people are saying everybody's saying it what's illustrated is saying it yeah yeah nature reports saying it yeah a lot of people are talking about that a lot of chatter out there but it is great to have you back uh sgg how was your week oh it was great great my anniversary was uh this past wednesday went out to a nice dinner had a good time fruit and flowers this was the traditional gift for the fourth anniversary.

2:19I went with the perfect - Is that a thing, the fruit and flowers? That is a thing. Crystal got me a fruit tart and a bouquet of flowers, so she went literal with it. I've never heard of this before, fruit and flowers. I've never heard of this. Because you're not married. So every year, once your anniversary comes up, you're Googling, what are we supposed to get? And then you try to go in that range. If I want you to know I am married, never heard of it. You never heard of it. now that doesn't mean i'm not failing that doesn't mean i'm not failing when it comes to the marriage but i i i haven't done your googles yeah i have not run the googles four a month ago so um all right well uh dip it's you have a lot of time i have less time to figure this out before my next uh anniversary but we all have time to figure out what the proper anniversary things are you know what I'm saying clearly according to Greg according to Greg it's some it's some cantaloupe and some exactly the roses and some cantaloupe that's all you need for the fourth maybe a kiwi or a you know something a dragon fruit you know something like that depending on what season you were married it might be papaya you might get some passion fruit in there okay I'll take a papaya, an anniversary papaya.

3:38SGG, did you bust out a dragon fruit? I really want to know. I did not. The fruit tart that she got me came from Wegmans. It had kiwi on it, so dip is not that far off. There was some kiwi, there's some pineapple, strawberry, blueberry. Kiwi was exchanged is what you're saying. That's right. That's right. So dip is not that far off. Well, I need to get it together when it comes to my next anniversary. A lot is happening, guys, in the Rosenberg household right now. A lot is going on.

4:08The move of the Sench is happening soon. We're moving 20 blocks away. It is – I got to tell you guys, I don't know how these people are doing it with the kids, Dipp. We got people having – I don't have any of these. I don't have one. I don't even have one. And by the way, and I get it. I just I'm seeing what people are doing with the children and they're going and going I mean we have you know and the other day and Natalie was saying to me because she's always you know questioning whether what we're doing is right could we do something better or what you know what about this what about that and she said you know well I wonder if we could have you know just moved more stuff out of this house and found a way to make this apartment work oh and I'm like It's enough with this apartment.

4:56It's enough. Okay. It's great for a bachelor. It's a tiny place at this point. You're rich. You're successful. The couch is too big. Okay. It's too big. Why is it? We liked it at first. It's gotten too big. I love the couch, but this is a, I really do. I slept on this couch many times. I don't understand the couch slander. I have, I have strong affinity for this couch. Okay. I'm just telling you. I've watched a lot of wrestling on this couch. I've done a great - You really have. I love this couch. No J.D. Vance. I love this couch though. But there's - There's no clean sitting on this couch. The legs have to come up.

5:41You have, there has to be an extra seating, like movement to get comfortable on the couch. It's so deep that it's like a, it's an instant bed. It's an instant loungy thing. There's no regular seating on the couch. He's right. I'm not going to fight. I'm not going to argue against him. Dip is right. I didn't know why the couch needed to catch the slander because it doesn't have anything to do with the move. I mean, that's the hard part, SGG. It's an opportunity to get the new couch. You'll get the new couch now. By the way, I don't know that we are in this moment. Oh, God. You get it? Stop. Stop.

6:19No. I stand with the couch. With the apartment comes new furniture and a new beginning for everything. Yeah, but again, back to the dip and no children situation. Dip, do you really want to jump into a brand new beautiful couch for the future that you love with a child who's now just going to be getting to the age of climbing on the couch with the cups and the snacks? I think you wait on the couch. This is the future. This is it. You're saying for the future. This is the future. You want the kid climbing on the couch and doing the cups and the things. So you just have to think about it in terms of material and color situation.

7:00Yes, material and color. You get the performance fabric so that nothing can happen. Ah, the performance fabric. We're going to perform on the fabric. He's not going to the scam. Do you see how he's trying to get us in on the scam now? Let me tell you something. It's not a scam. One of the biggest mistakes a human being can make is declining the performance fabric. Okay? Once you're delving into the non-performance, everything stains. Everything. If you look at a couch, it stains. You sneeze. The splatter from the sneeze is staining the couch. I love the couch. I cannot support replacing the couch.

7:42This couch is the couch that I drive. This couch is not the couch. This is the couch that I was sitting on when I dropped a piece of chicken and Bear attacked that chicken with the speed of a gazelle that birthed the hot dog chicken challenge. That was a great moment in cheap heat history. That's a great point. I got you. What I would support, though, is if somebody wants to send P a free couch to his new home that's 20 blocks away. Wow, I love what you're doing. I love what you're doing. That I would support. So Love Sack, Raymoor Flanagan. I don't know who's sponsors on Sirius SM. If you got a couch for P, that I will support.

8:14We can get that old couch out of here. I'll move the old couch if you're going to send me a new couch. Let me call Raymore for you. I'm not sure I can reach Flanagan. I don't know where he's at. Flanagan doesn't answer. I'll definitely be able to talk to Raymore for you. Raymore makes things happen. Yeah. I can't believe you're so confident you can get a hold of Raymore. Please, I got Raymore on speed dial.

8:38If you are the manager you claim to be and I need a couch, you should be able to get Ray Moore on the phone. All right. Yeah. Yeah. No one's heard from Flanagan in years. He's drunk somewhere. He's Flanagan's drunk as a skunk at Flanagan. You know, what's messed up about this is that we're making all these jokes, but remember when it really did happen with the lawyer team. When one of them, yeah, that one one's gone. Yeah. They had problems before that though. I went to law school with Celino's daughter so the issues were long they were going to break up before that I think the issues were long documented you're saying?

9:22yeah the issues were long documented I don't want to get too deep into it because you know this is lawyer goss that we're going to spread on Sirius XM radio but yeah you can't do that they had some issues though it was going to happen I don't know but Barnes is the one who died in a crash though right? It was Barnes? yeah Yeah. Tip, do you know about Salino and Barnes? Are we going to New York for you now? I know what it is. I don't know any like lore about it. Salino and Barnes, industry attorneys, 888. Yeah, I remember. We have our own version of that. We have Jacob Emrani, who, by the way, I see all over the place.

10:00I've dined next to him and his family 300 times. Me and Jacob Emrani have the same social schedule. I thought you were going to say the official. I think this is the official attorneys at WW or something like that. I thought they advertised on WWE Morgan and Morgan. They are Morgan and Morgan. Morgan everywhere. Not to be confused with the great live Morgan, of course. Morgan and Morgan. All right. So Morgan and Morgan love wrestling. Oh, yeah. I want to meet Morgan. I don't know about Morgan. I definitely want to meet Morgan. I'm not sure about more. All right, guys. A lot of a lot of things to discuss here.

10:35Yes. John Cena is the Intercontinental Champion. um the the moment in boston went down he he now is a grand slam champion which we know dip feels very strongly about dip thinks it's very important when people can become grand slam champion he finds it to be one of those meaningful things in professional wrestling and now you can sleep easy dip because john cena is a grand slam champion um i look what i think should happen is of course he'll drop it um i think dom should immediately win it back in like whatever tournament forgot the thing they do it should be dom dom should immediately win it back i like dom as the champion i know i know we all love dom as uh ic champ um but what do you mean what do you mean in the tournament like what are they doing i don't i just made that up are they what are they going to do to get the title off of them oh to get the title off of john i don't think you're that far off but i do think it's going to be the tournament winner also ends up getting an continental championship match and i oh oh yo the tournament winner that's it that's a good point i didn't i didn't think about that and i'm so worried that that means that sheamus is going to win the tournament and also become a grand slam champion because she's been chasing this title for years.

11:57Gregory, Sheamus is not winning the tournament. Listen, I'm not saying that I would like for that to happen. Love Sheamus. He's saying he's worried about it. But it's just Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Sheamus has been back on TV now for a few weeks. Okay. I've never been a big Sheamus guy, although I like his look. I think he's very unique. This guy He looks like a professional wrestler, confirmed. I love the way I love Sheamus. I have become such a Sheamus guy in like this next, like this last, I guess this third act. I love that for Seamus and I love that for you. I am.

12:31I want to have a pint with Seamus at some point. You had a pint threat at a certain point. I don't know if you ever took up the pint thing. I would love it. It hasn't happened yet. It needs to happen. I like his paleness. I'm very big on the paleness. You're liking the paleness. It shows every marking. You know exactly when he's been slapped or scratched. I love that. I want to see that, but I do like the paleness. He, by the way, by the way, Seamus's skin is not performance. Not at all. Okay. It's the regular run of the mill fabric. It's, it's bruiseable. It's stainable. Things are happening.

13:13Oh yeah. I don't think it's going to happen either, but I understand SGG's control, concern that this would be like the most blah, blah, blah thing that could happen. Would it be? How do I actually feel about that? Let me process this first. I don't want to be generic. I want to process the thought as a wrestling fan. Sheamus and John having the last match. Listen, they're very connected historically. Yep. But there's not enough there. And Sheamus isn't the future, right? and I don't think he's a what is Seamus a top five scene arrival maybe he's five he might be five no maybe five no I mean top ten not five who are the four that you would put ahead of Seamus great question now see now we're having a conversation this is how you do a radio show now we're having a conversation I think he might be five Greg you should consider a career in broadcasting as well alongside Peter yeah only alongside Peter yeah definitely not on your own definitely not on your own um all right so name name the ones that hold on let's be uh batista yes edge edge randy yes uh rock oh yes he's in t's top 10 punk yes miz yes I think I had a Sheamus.

14:40Come on. They have a WrestleMania match. Yeah, but John Cena and Sheamus actually traded titles. They have like a Sheamus got his first championship off of John Cena.

14:55So the point is this. We all agree. I would have taken no issue with. I would have taken zero issue with Cena and Sheamus having a match along the way. it shouldn't be the last match. Is that what we're all saying? Yes. Yes. Yeah, we love the man. We love Sheamus, but I just don't think that would be the way to do this. All right, so we have a lot to break down today, and we're going to break it all down to a fine powder. I want to take a break right now so we can come back and talk more about this. We also will get to your guys' phone calls as well at 877-344-4893. also coming up in like 15 minutes or so I'm going to be joined in person here in Orlando by the TNA knockouts champion Kehlani Jordan she's going to step in here we're going to talk to her about everything going on at TNA as well as Gold Rush coming up over the next couple of weeks for Madison Square Garden Theater that's going to be very very cool so we'll talk to Kehlani Jordan first time on the show probably the biggest deal of her short career the first cheap heat appearance yeah i mean although i'm concerned for you when when you said that we were going to do this i was like okay you know it's over zoom p is safe the last time that i can think of there's probably been a time in between but uh the last time that i can think of that you were in such close proximity on a radio program with the tna knockouts member of the roster you know it didn't end good for your boy and that room looks a little close quarters it's tight you know what kelly try to keep it emilio kelly we're gonna need a clip before we drop the kehlani jordan interview we need to drop a clip with sgg what he just said reminding people of what happened and then you can cut right to the video it's right there in in perfect color i'm sorry to have to remind you of what happened but i am worried when you said performance center i said oh no please can she zoom in but um my face still stings when you bring it up also as of last night there's a new tna champion yeah what uh okay we'll talk about that as well more on the cena stuff and other things from from monday night there's a lot happening all over the place john cena and beyond we will get to all of it dip did you watch any blood and guts yet i watch the blood i watch the guts all right i watch some blood i watch some blood i watch some guts i haven't seen all the blood or all the guts but i've seen some of the blood some of the guts yeah that's what's going to be on your new couch blood and guts oh my god that's what you that's that's why you need the performance oh that's why that's why are they all that's how You need the performance fabric for blood and guts.

17:48For blood and guts. It makes perfect sense. Where else can you hear a show like this? Nowhere. 877-344-4893. The technical problems are out of the way. Kehlani Jordan coming up in just a bit. It's Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Bubble Yum Bubblegum. Available in a blasting new three-flavor pack with wild cherry, grape, and regular. Bubble Yum keeps it popping. The show has gotten much cooler because Dip has been replaced by Kehlani Jordan. Respectfully to Dip. Respectfully. Welcome to Cheap Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7.

18:25The TNA Knockouts Champion. Kehlani Jordan is on Cheap Heat for the first time. Is this the biggest moment in your career thus far? Right this second. Yes, absolutely. Thank you. I mean, I would say being the first ever Women's North American Champion. Yeah, inaugural, whatever. Sure. It's a big deal. I mean. No, it is a big deal. No, it felt big then. At the time, that was the biggest. Yes, and I also feel like because I had to set the bar for that title. Right. But now I feel like, yes, this is the biggest moment because now I'm a world champion. I'm representing two brands. Obviously, I have more experience now, so yeah.

18:57We're very excited to have you. Thank you. It has been a very, very cool run for you. Just three years in the biz so far, technically? Yep, three years. All right, let's take a look back. How's the first three years been, would you say, so far? Has it been everything that you dreamed of? Has it far surpassed? How would you rate what's happened for you for the last three years? I would say it's definitely far surpassed. I mean, I've always believed in myself and knew that I had potential, but never in a billion years would I think, oh, I would be inaugural champion. I would be a TNA world champion.

19:30I never thought that this would happen so quickly, but I'm super thankful. So this experience has far surpassed. It's pushed me out of my comfort zone. It's challenged me. and honestly, I just got to meet some amazing people along the way. Your fiancé? Yes, my fiancé, of course. Thank you, NXT. Wait, and by the way, how quickly? What was the story? Carmelo's been on the show before. He'll be back again another time. I don't want to make this about Carmelo, but I do want to get the story because I know Bianca and Tez. I know their story of meeting. What was your guys' story of meeting here? Okay, so it's kind of funny because I feel like it will sound like cheesy, but the moment that we met you know how like in wrestling you got to shake everyone's hands you know on written rules you know everything or so i went to shake his hand and it was like time froze like we literally just stared at each other and and i'm not shy at all but it felt like in that moment i got really shy and coach terry coach terry taylor was right there and he told mellow he was like hey you better get it for someone else does and then i wasn't so i was walking away and i guess he said that to him so then you know some months passed and then eventually we started talking you know more but no it's for wait you're wait so you went for the little handshake yes and then he just sat there like yeah we it was just like the most awkward high and just like time frozen and like i said he's not shy and i'm not shy but it was just so weird but yo that is hilarious and sg you know what they say there's never a true love meeting unless the red rooster's there you know what i Oh, yeah.

21:02Exactly. You got to certify it. Terry Taylor has to put his stamp on it. Yes, and he was like our Cupid because he kept telling him, you better get it for someone else's. And then he would come to me, are you guys boyfriend and girlfriend yet? And I'm like, no, not yet. He goes, have you gotten a first date? I'm like, no, not yet. And he's like, what are you doing? That is so funny. And then once you guys started dating, did it just – it clicked very quickly? Yeah, it definitely clicked very quickly. I feel like we're very similar. I mean, we have our, like, differences, but I feel like we're very similar when it comes to, like, just, like, who we are as people.

21:32And also, it definitely helps having someone who understands your schedule and what you're going through. He helps talk me off of clips, but also pushes me to just take that next step and be better. Oh, I have to tell you, this is our first time really talking, but I love that kid. Like, I am such a huge, like, he's a great wrestler. You know, we've all talked about his ceiling. You know, we all, you know, listen, Carmelo's a name we threw out there to get the last match with Cena. You know, and it's still on the table. These are all things we talk about. but just on a personal level what a lovely lovely guy you found so I'm happy for you guys and I've heard nothing but great things about about you as well um that's good what now let's now what about this what about this TNA knockouts thing like how familiar first of all how big a fan were you how familiar were you with the idea of TNA and what has this experience sort of been like so I would say so when I was growing up I definitely watched wrestling I have four older brothers so we watched wrestling i will say when i got to like middle high school i didn't watch as much i was like primarily focused on getting a scholarship in gymnastics so now that you're like 27 yeah my birthday just passed oh happy happy belated thank you all right so middle high school what you didn't miss mine i feel like that was a good time to check out actually sug it depends well that's like 13 that's like 13 years ago that's like 12 yeah it's it it was hit or miss in that period.

22:56But anyways, yeah, so basically I would say I'm a student of the game now. I've gone back. I've watched. I study now. So I would say, yes, I was a wrestling fan, but there was a time in my life where I didn't watch as much. But when they messaged me on Instagram to come to a tryout, I was like, this cannot be real. I remember calling my mom and she was like, is this real? And she's like, well, I mean, might as well go for it. I mean, just let me know where you are. And you were doing gymnastics. I was doing gymnastics at Michigan State. I was doing my COVID year, so my fifth year and then they messaged me but I was finishing um season so I was like oh let me just wait let me finish season then I'll get back to them were you like hot on the gram or something well I wouldn't say not not like today's kids but

23:38not for the whole you were the old school hot on the gram though I was I was very I would say I was one of the top gymnasts at Michigan State okay but I wasn't what I would say like you know 100k followers nothing like that right okay I got it so how do you think they really caught wind of like Did they ever tell you how they found you exactly? They didn't tell me. They just said they were recruiting athletes. Honestly, it was just a blessing from God. Wow. There's no saying how they found me. I didn't have a pop in Instagram. SUJ? Yeah. What do you find more challenging? I'm curious. The competition aspect from being in gymnastics in that world or the competition aspect from being in the wrestling locker room, especially now that you have the World Heavyweight Championship on your shoulder?

24:19yeah i would say definitely wrestling because one there's so many great athletes we all come from different backgrounds whether you were on the independence whatever or mma fighter whatever the case was i feel like everyone has such unique backgrounds so that's one and then i would say and also wrestling is foreign to me i'd it's like i don't even know what i'm doing half the time but I love your honesty on this I do it's just because it's so different it's a lot I came from a sport where it was like this is the way and it's the only way and it's perfection you're being judged on a scale of perfection now wrestling there's a thousand ways that can be correct or whatever so that's just like a big difference I would say wrestling's harder because there's no right or wrong way who has been the most helpful obviously we know the coaches here you know Norm Smiley and Terry Taylor We know there's a lot of great coaches here.

25:13What other what superstars have already been helpful to you, even if just in the NXT locker room, as far as just like helping you speak the language and learn it? Because, yeah, it's truly its own craft, unlike anything else. Yes, I would say when I was first starting, Lyra definitely helped me a lot. We used to get in the ring together when she was obviously, you know, in NXT. She will help me like with the basics, the fundamentals. toes so she was a big help with in-ring for sure and then i would say of course mellow he's helped me not only with like in-ring but promos but also just like the business side of things like telling me hey like wrestling's up it's down so i would say those two for sure and what like like right now you you have a lot of lot going on um you have a tna show tonight yep um what do you who do you have i have turning point against m by elegance um and then and then you're on and then on gold rush Yeah, Gold Rush.

26:08I got Triple Threat with Jordan and Laying Lee. So that's a big stage at the theater at MSG. And obviously Gold Rush coming up for two weeks, the next two weeks of NXT from Madison Square Garden in New York. How anxious do you get for big moments like that? You're talking about your inexperience with a level of comfort. You know what I mean? Almost like you're aware that you don't know it all yet, but you're comfortable with that fact. Yeah. So are you a pretty cool, calm, collected person, or are you a day of show running around like, let's go? I'm a pretty calm, collected person. I mean, of course I get nervous because I want to do well.

26:48I know people are watching, and also HBK is putting me out there because he believes in me. So obviously there's that nervousness that I have, but it's because I want to do so well. So and with gymnastics going back, I was nervous before every competition because I just wanted it to go so well. so I feel like honestly in like pressure moments and when I'm nervous is when I do my best sorry there's been a fruit there's a fruit fly here and and the embarrassing part to everyone listening is that not only is there a fruit fly there but it literally was sitting on a banana that I had sitting here like yeah like a complete jabroni but uh SGG go ahead sorry yeah no I want to ask you too because something that impressed me from you like uh I think it was last week you had that promo in the middle of the ring where you basically told the fans that like Like, you know, I don't need you to sum it up.

27:37And one thing with the fans at NXT, I love them. But that crowd, like sometimes they can be insufferable in just the way that like they chant and they try to talk over you and they try to rattle you. But like you, it didn't feel like you were sticking to the script. But to me, you nailed it because it was like the more they hated, the more confident you sounded. And I just want to know where did that come from? Because I think what the Kalani that people got to know over the years was like very nice and very bubbly. And they thought they could push you around. And they found out that that was not the case.

28:09Yes. And that's the problem. I feel like when you do stuff the right way and you're always bubbly and nice all the time, people take advantage of it. And then you're seen as like, oh, boring. She's boring. Like just because you're nice. And then I was like, you know what? No, I'm not boring. And I have a truth to say. and I also felt like because I was trying to be carry this title the right way opposite the way that trick was carrying it by like bashing TNA and wearing it upside down people they hated it I was doing it the right way and they hated it I just feel like sometimes people like it when you do stuff bad the wrong yeah sometimes it's fun to do bad things as the great Latarian Milton once said and I will say in that promo and just touching on your point in that promo yes they were so loud booing me I could barely hear myself but I was like It's okay.

28:53You don't have to hear what I'm saying, but you're going to hear what I'm saying whether you like it or not. I respect it. Where are you from originally? You from Michigan? No, I'm from Boynton Beach, Florida. From Boynton Beach, Florida, and then went to Michigan State for school. Correct. What's life like growing up in Boynton Beach, Florida? What's the vibes? I love it. It's the beach. You know, it's hot all year round. It's very diverse there. And what's your family's background? Where's your family from? My mom is from Boston, and my dad is from Georgia. Do your mom and Mello share a special Boston connection?

29:26Yeah, they do. They always say like wicked. That was wicked cool. Yeah, how they talk. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, like that. Lots of Dunkin' Donuts cups sitting around. Oh, yes, she does. Who are some of the dream opponents for you? Are there already people out there that you look up to and go, oh, I just. Yeah, when Bianca comes back, I really want to work her. and then Rhea, Io, and Becky. Those are like some people. And obviously when Naomi comes back, when she has her baby. And what about, do you ever think about the prospect of showing up in that Royal Rumble, what that moment would be like?

30:04Oh my God, I honestly think about that all the time. I feel like just the adrenaline when you come out and when you're running down their long ramp. I mean, and by the way, SGG, correct me if I'm wrong, she wouldn't be the first Knockouts champion to appear in the Women's Royal Rumble. she would not but i also like you know i like to think that if she's in the rumble she's possible winner it's on the table thank you thank you yeah i mean listen if you're gonna show up you might as well show out yeah might as well win i mean remember roxanne last year you know was brand new went an hour like set the record i think yeah the record yeah she set the record um now do you have any special affinity for the artist kehlani because you are kehlani i do i do love her and also you know that trend was like the kehlani song i wish that was my walkout song have you tried to have that conversation yet listen i don't think it's gonna happen listen you need to get here's what you need to do you need to get to the point of so undeniable yes we're them coughing up the bread to pay kehlani for the song is just like a no-brainer yeah at least yes yeah at least oh yeah or at least for a video package oh yeah you know who else that i always get a lot people always say that i look like maya the singer so i get that a lot so maybe i promise you i get that i'm getting your profile i see it more than dead on yeah really well listen i want you to know that that i take that very seriously because my daughter is named maya mya oh yes i wouldn't say it's after maya but the the the reason i went why is like it was the conversation between me and my wife was do we go the regular way or do we go like the Maya way yeah and Maya's from DC I'm from DC we're the same age by the way good news for you if you're anything like Maya because that woman ages like the finest wine yeah she's no she listen all I'll say is we're the same age look at me look at me all right you see she's doing it's all you need to know about being a vegan taking care of yourself.

32:10No, that woman is. She's special. And I heard she's been killing out on the road. She popped out on the Brandy and Monica tour. She's still got it on stage, too. She's still got it. I cannot believe that you were born, because I was just looking at this beforehand. You were born in 98? Mm-hmm. SGG, can you believe that someone born in 98 is 27? Because when I see 98, how do I explain this? Tell me if this makes sense to you, SGG, or even to you. When I see 98, I feel like you're a baby. And then I see 27. I'm like, well, I mean she's not a baby she's 27 is definitely whole ass adult you know what I'm saying yes how did how in SG in 98 we were outside already we were looking at DMX in fact my nephew's born in 98 and I have to keep reminding myself that like I can't check him all the time like I want to because I'm now talking to a grown man who's like full adult but I'm still seeing like eight-year-old nephew I know there's something about we see late 90s on the thing it's crazy it is great that's how I feel when I see like people born in like 2004.

33:13No, no. Oh, four. And then like 21 or something. No, listen, these kids, dude, these evolved kids, they were born in 04 and 05. I know. And they're, they're grown. No, there, there is some line that I've been noticing recently and it's right around 25 to where it's like, I go from above 20. Cause I'm in my mid 40. I'm 46. 25 and up you're you're young right but like we can still you're an adult like it's we could all be sitting in the same place having conversation there for some reason for me there's something like once you get like 23 and under i'm like oh these are actual children like you could still be in class right now you know what i mean yeah like there was no world unless things went really badly for you we'd still be in class unless you'd failed out of everything now did you did you finished school in four years?

34:04Yeah, I just did my extra year, my COVID year, so I got my master's degree. Oh, my bad. What was your master's in? My master's was in international journalism. Wow. All right, I guess you'll take my job too then. Yeah, by the way, so you know what, SGG? It's about time we sort of upgrade this co-host position. You know what I mean? Someone with some actual learned experience in the past. You know what I mean? A master's? Yeah, a master's. he doesn't even have stats anymore and his name is that guy um or does that does that actually interest you like is that something you would at the way down the road uh post-athletic career would going back to journalism be something that interests you oh yes absolutely because one i i love talking but i also love writing so like in my undergrad i did broadcast journalism and sports journalism so that was like my focus but when i got to master's i really loved like research and writing so i would write like i know people think this is boring but i would write like 15 page papers about like stuff like international reporting and stuff but just stuff that you'd you'd find a subject yeah i would find a subject and then i would just like obviously research it study like what like for international journalism it's like how other countries receive their media and like their censorship and all that stuff so i would just like research it and interview and stuff wow i know i'm always like you're a nerd you're a nerd but i am good for you good for you what's your perspective on how wrestling journalism is in this day and age like how people cover let's say just a moment that happens on tv and they extrapolate it out to mean that this person is unhappy and they're leaving and they dig into different rumors yeah so i think some i mean as you guys know some are like you know valid sources and they're good but there's also a lot because at the end of the day i guess everyone technically can be a journalist because everyone has a phone everyone can tweet or say whatever they want so i would say some is obviously not valid and i feel like sometimes people just want to be the first to get it out they don't actually know what they're even saying yeah it is it is interesting like with the availability and it's like it is great that everybody can have a camera right and like so you see you know in places where like there's humanitarian crisis it's great that everyone can have a camera and show you But then take something much less important, respectfully, like professional wrestling, where you have people who can literally just watch TV like anyone else.

36:30That line between, quote, journalist and content creator is like incredibly blurry. Yeah, because I can't tell you how many times it will be like sources say blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, huh? Who's the source? There cannot be a source. I'm like, who's the source? you know we joke sometimes about some of the headlines that come up like don't get me wrong obviously some stuff is real and gets leaked and that's annoying and terrible but then there's just stuff that you're like that's not a story like they'll almost pull something that's from storyline on television and act like they're reporting on news and i'm like that's obscene um all right so you have a show tonight um good luck tonight thank you good luck are you on gold rush week one i'm on gold rush week two week two all right so in a couple of weeks we'll check you out at gold rush as well in that triple threat match.

37:18It's been a pleasure, Kalani. Yes, thank you so much for having me. We look forward to talking to you more in the future. Please tell Mello what up. I texted him and said, tell me something interesting to talk to your lady about. He hasn't written me back, so go ahead and curse him out for me, too. I got you. He's really bad at texting back. Yeah, he's slow. All right. Dip will step back in in a few minutes. We'll do some more on John Cena. We'll talk to you guys. Thanks to the TNA Knockouts Champion, Kalani Jordan. It's GP Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following.

37:46Marvel Comics number one tough guy the Punisher explodes onto Game Boy in the ultimate payback nonstop shoot him up arcade action and a special appearance by Spider-Man from acclaim. Now I have unfortunate news to report to the audience listening and watching. We had a great time talking to Kalani Jordan. However, the best part of the interview happened off the air. um now i can ask her if she's good with it we could still include it you guys are still recording back there right we could still include it in the video i think we may have to make that a bonus that has to be bonus video doesn't it i i yes all right let me just so so if you're if you're a hardcore listener of the podcast you will appreciate this if not you won't care and just go ahead and roll with it anyway we're sitting here afterwards and dip comes back because dip doesn't jump in on most of the interviews um and and he was handling some business he comes back on says hi to Kalani after we finish up and then he says oh where in Boynton Beach are you from because that's where Dip's parents live right down the street and he asked her have you been to Flakowitz Flakowitz's what's it how do you Flakowitz yeah it's like the Jewish deli in Boynton and she goes no I haven't what's what's Flakowitz and he says it's the Jewish deli and she goes oh well I should go my mom's Jewish and we were like hello the headline of the sedge buried the lead buried the lead there's so much that we could do a whole thing on this I mean we'll get her back we'll get her back on we'll get her back on at some point do you realize what this means do you realize what this means for the Jewish people a lot a lot being able to claim Kehlani Jordan is huge This is the biggest news, and these hacks, these so-called journalistic hacks out there who claim to care, are they going to report the biggest wrestling news?

39:50That even though she's not observant, her mother is 100 % Jewish, making Kalani Jordan Jewish, no matter what you say about it. Do you know what this means? Do you understand as a people how far we've gone up now in terms of athleticism, looks, charisma? Do you realize what we've gained today? But big. A lot. A lot. I got to tell you. This is not an exaggeration. No. I mean, she is one of the most talented, impressive new superstars in WWE. By the way, Goldberg, bye. Yep. So long. We don't need him. Goldberg and Barry Horowitz just got leapfrogged so crazy right now. Oh my God. By the way, don't ever forget that I was the person who figured out that Alexa Bliss was half Jewish.

40:43Don't ever forget that. That was me. Carmelo Hayes is dating a Jewish woman.

40:52He's Jewish and J's. We've basically gained Hayes as well. Yeah. Oh, this is a really This is a really big moment for the show and a big moment for the listeners. And we're grateful that all of you can be here with us today. She was fantastic. I'm going to try to stop by this TNA pay-per-view tonight. I'm going to try to stop by. It's going on down the street. I'm curious. I'm interested. Absolutely. Well, by the way, we'll see what happens. And maybe by the time people hear this, if you're hearing this on the podcast on Saturday or Sunday or whatever it may be, then you know maybe it's an irrelevant point because we've already figured out you know what the situation is but mike santana they took the title off him after a month yeah against frankie kazarian yeah after getting like beat up by a bunch of random people yeah it happened no one finds that weird it's weird i don't watch enough tna to say if it's weird right because it's possible that frankie kazarian also has a championship story like his he had a chase that i'm not aware of and that people more tapped into tna might be aware of it's also possible that you know because of the relationship between wwe and tna that mike santana's off to greener pastures also i don't mind these short title reigns right i don't mind a little transitional something if it means something to the story and again i'm not as tapped into the story as other people might be to say whether or not i should be absolutely outraged about this or if this is weird i think it's just like wrestling fans love they want to be mad about it guys kehlani jordan is half jewish i know i i can't stop thinking about it it's all that matters okay it's by the way i'm gonna i'm i'm gonna hit up i'm gonna hit up greg domino i'm gonna yell at him i'm gonna say how dare you You son of a bitch.

42:51How could you not tell me? Tell me something interesting and nobody gave it to you. I know. I wrote Carmelo Hayes. Hey, tell me something about nothing. Eggs. And now we find out the ultimate news. Kalani Jordanstein. And by the way, I won't say it because she didn't say this. You know, I wouldn't share this unless she okayed it. She shared her mother's maiden name. I mean, just a beautiful classic Jewish name. I mean, this is a Jewish woman. Yeah. Confirmed. I mean, by the way, do you think that even though she's like not, you know, practically Jewish on a day-to-day basis and she's never been to Flakewitz dip, do you think that the second she walks in, she just gravitates towards like the most Jewish mirror they have?

43:39What if she just walks in and knows exactly what she's got so crazy? She's never done it before. Yeah. I need capers. I need capers I need a side of whitefish salad I must have the whitefish salad How does it Does the next Cheap Heat Live Do we invite her and do a bat mitzvah? Like a little something Can you imagine? That's something there There's something there Yeah, Kalani Jordan's bat mitzvah Is a mage episode of Cheap Heat Bar hua da na ham vora I could see Bar hua da na na ham vora Baruch Atah Oh yeah, the Bavitsa's going to be big. Yeah, Dip, you get an Aaliyah, you're going to have to practice up.

44:35Of course. Ashi G. Of course. Ashi G. He's going to represent the men's club. He'll present her with a kiddish cup at the end. It's going to be a moment. I can't wait for this oh man should we talk about wrestling again also I love wrestling I love a big wrestling fan for years and years who do you guys think is going to be LA Knight's surprise opponent the dirts are saying Hendry and they couldn't say his name because if you say his name he appears that's what they say that's what they say is that what they're saying that's what they are saying That's what they are saying. What did you say, SGG?

45:20Stone Cold? No, it said Solo. So also has a surprise opponent. So maybe Hendry. I think you said someone said Stone Cold. Well, that would be something. No, no, not yet. Can I just say something like the Boston crowd was hot and electric and the Cena matches continue to be fun. Him and Dominic were super fun. My assumption here is that they turn it around like we heard rumored and they run it back at Survivor Series. And it's Dominic and Cena at Survivor Series. I'm not mad at that. And he wins and Dominic gets the title back. Somehow Dominic gets the title back. And whoever is, yeah, whoever I guess we're seemingly getting on December 13th interferes and costs him the match or something.

46:10I don't know. That would be fun. That would be fun. Like, it would be fun, too, if John's last match was against, like, a heel, not like a respectful baby face. I'm sorry. Can I interrupt? Have they, like, showed us a bracket? No. No, they have not. You know, it's like, how many people are in this tournament? 16 people are in the tournament. And there's only been, like, two matches. And, like, right? They're doing Raw and SmackDown and doing matches. So you're going to get two more on SmackDown. Wait, we haven't seen the bracket, SUG? No. There's no bracket. It's not fully revealed. It's not fully revealed.

46:46It's time to see the bracket. But you know what that means? Wait, but so you're saying, have they shown it and names aren't revealed or they haven't even shown it? They're pulling names. I think that what's going to happen is when they get to the quarterfinals, when every competitor is actually revealed, then we'll get a bracket and then we'll break it down. Because let's be honest, too. Just from a, you know, 16 names on the screen, it's clunky. So like when they get it down to eight, then they can get a cleaner graphic. No, no, you could easily do it. You could easily, as you do, they've done it a million times.

47:17The reason they're not doing it, they don't, they don't know. They, they can't know. That's possible too. That's possible too. No, that's it. That's it. They fade this. So are we going to go, can we do a cake? No, no, because we've watched plenty of, we have watched King of the Ring tournaments where they've had at least 16 names on the screen. It has to be that they're like, we're, we're announcing the matches and then we'll figure out where people go to get the matchups that we won. Right. sure yeah yeah because i mean there's some i think only one nxt name has been announced so far javon evans there's um eight other names or six by the way you want to talk about something you want to talk about something out of nothing here and we got a break i want to talk to you guys next all your thoughts on on all of this stuff and where we're at with it 877-344-4893 jump on the show kalani jordan is jewish and also So if Javon Evans went on a run, that could be something.

48:11You could take someone who you don't expect and make it something. But it has to be the right person you don't expect, like Javon Evans, in my opinion. All right? So we want to hear from you on this and so much more. 877-344-4893. Mike Santana loses the title to Frankie Kazarian. Oh, it's a wacky Friday. Here I'm at the PC. and it is GP Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. New World Wrestling Federation superstars cookies from Solano. Great tasting cookies in 10 fun-to-eat WWF wrestling shapes. What do you guys think about the John Cena NXT of it all?

48:53The fact that this PLE, you know, we know he spent a lot of time at the Performance Center. He was meeting with people. He's doing all this stuff. and now they're saying the saturday night's main event is going to have like these exhibitions with nxt talent um sgg your tease i like it i like it a lot um especially if you know his whole thing has been now that he's a good guy again i want to showcase the future i want to give people the chance to seize the opportunity that i seized way back when um Not everybody's going to get to be in the last match or have the opportunity to beat John Cena or beat up John Cena, as AJ Styles would say.

49:37But to still be able to be on the card and be showcased, I think, is huge for people. So I'm for it. Yeah, I just – I don't – like the idea of like showcasing them, does it minimize their mageness? Like, I don't know. It just feels like a little bit of like a – like shining a light on that they're like still in developmental. I don't know. I'm mixed about it. It depends who they put out there I guess. I mean they are still in developmental but also – I know. I know. I know. With it being exhibitions against WWE guys who are on the main roster, do we get some new rivalries out of this? Does it open up the door for something?

50:22Does it – I don't know. I don't love when there's that much crossover between the brands. I like the idea of like the big reveal that someone is being called up. And so the like I just, you know, like the idea of putting them. Like, you know, I don't love when they put when they put NXT talent on SmackDown and Raw. And I don't love when it goes the other way either. It's like, let it be what it is. You know, it's like. So how do you how do you find a way to make it like feel impactful and special on this event? And how many do they do? Like, I'm curious now to how they fill out the card right now.

50:54Now, it is going to be treated like a PLE. Like this Saturday Night's Main Event is going to be called Saturday Night's Main Event. But as Dip said a few weeks ago, what he's heard from someone, and I can tell you what I've heard, it's put any previous Saturday Night's Main Event away. Just consider it that Peacock is getting. And by the way, I just had a thought. i wonder in part of the way that the deal ended with peacock and espn and how it all sort of happened kind of quickly i wonder if part of it was hey guys how about this we're gonna move over there right now we're gonna do wrestlepalooza blah blah blah but we're gonna give you the cena thing and it's gonna be huge maybe yeah maybe so it makes sense think of it think of it being a really big premium live event for that Saturday Night's Main event.

51:46How else do you fill out the card? Like, is it literally just going to be Cena's last match with a bunch of NXT people facing WWE people? Or are they going to have like what do you say? I mean, I have some ideas. I think that's what they do. But that's the whole thing? You don't have any other matches? It's just Cena's last match and then you know, Kehlani Jordan versus Rhea Ripley and Carmelo Hayes versus Turk Williams or whatever different things you want to do like that that's that's what it is yeah I think that's I think that's direction they go right because Cena's last match at this point now it feels so huge so monumental it's an event in and of itself so do you want to even bother like you know let's see what's going on with Cody and Drew and put that storyline in there.

52:39That's a really good point. That's a really good point. Do you want to even... Muddy it up. Yeah. This is all about Cena. This is his legacy. This is the John Cena show. And we're just going to go out with a bunch of exhibition matches with no story. That doesn't mean anything. Right now. Could mean in the future, but not right now. And we're going to give John Cena his send-off.

53:04What do you think, Tip? because I think that I think that made a lot of sense the the not muddying up other main roster stories next to it that does that does make a lot of sense and then you can still have cool exhibition matches but they're not part of a broader story that that might make sense to me you know what I misunderstood the scenario that's why I had that reaction the idea that an NXT like a really solid NXT person would be wrestling a main roster person is different than if you had two NXT people wrestling on the show. I think that's an interesting thing to me. And there's a lot of interesting dream matches already.

53:43I mean, there's so many good NXT stars right now. You know? You say whatever you want about NXT. I think this could be one of the best rosters ever. I'm sorry. Isn't it crazy how you all say that every two or so years about NXT that like, alright, no, this is the best. And I gotta tell you, The Evolve roster is, you know, the perfect next NXT roster if you go down the list. I mean, they've done a great job. I got to tell you, this system that is in place, in my opinion, talent-wise, works incredibly well. I just feel like the debuts, like Lash Legend is somebody that I have had my eye on just as a fan.

54:29We just talked about this. For a very long time. I think she is mage in every way, shape and form. The idea that she would just debut in the way that she did last week. Okay. Not bad. She sort of debuted a little bit like China. Yeah, she was exactly like China. When she grabbed Marlena and whipped her around. So that's okay. But, you know, I know Lash Legend is such an incredible presence that something a little bit better for her would have been maybe, you know, would have been the way to go. I don't want to hate on it too much. I don't want to minimize Lash Legend. I think she's mage and I'm a fan.

55:10Her and Naya together could be a real force. Could be. Did you see that forearm? She sent EO into the first row with the forearm. They are a force. Let's face it. Presence is a good way to use presence because that's exactly what Naya. She has like, you know, moving off of aura, I think presence was a good way to describe what Lash Legend bought. Lash Legend has presence and aura. And I would put the tag titles on them immediately. Take the tag titles off the cabooks. I would put it right on Lash Legend or at least have them build up to it. So they're an awesome tag team. I'd like to see them have the same similar gear or something that sort of blends them together a little bit.

55:57And that would be fun to see. but I think the Kabuki Warriors have had their moment already I just think the Kabuki Warriors don't need a title particularly they don't as a tag team they're awesome in the ring we know that I have some other criticisms but as in ring wrestlers they're at the highest level you can possibly get but the idea of putting a new awesome tag team in the mix that, you know, you know, would in Lash Legend and Nia Jax. I'd like to see them have a name together and have similar gear, not just be thrown together. We know how you feel about the gear. Now, here's where I need to get any name.

56:44Here's where I think we go, though. Maybe for the rest of the show, for people who have it, who, what are the matches you would want to see on the Cena show? meaning you tell us the NXT talent and the main roster talent and who you want to see match up. Let's assume, SGG, we're going to get four other matches in addition to Cena's last match. What are sort of the four dream matches between NXT and SmackDown and Raw? I like that. That's a fun thing to dream about. But 877-344-4893. I am very excited that Jackson Drake and Sean Legacy are going to have a title match at Gold Rush in two weeks. What are your T's?

57:38Mage. Mage. Huge Jackson Drake guy. Love Jackson Drake. He just defended that title. Come on. Give the Carolina. Let him rest. Why don't his neck like that? Just come on, man. I mean, he just survived Keanu Carver. You survive Keanu Carver. then you have to roll right into Sean Legacy by the way it is interesting some of these characters though I have to tell you I've recently been impressed with the way that like Sean Legacy Kendall Gray Jackson Drake they've really been using them on NXT quite a bit they're starting to become like like SGG if you're a big if you're a big NXT fan at this point you now know Kendall Gray and Sean Legacy certainly right Yes.

58:22Because they've been showcased, like you said. And they're not the only ones, right? The Vanity Project got a look on NXT a while back. My guy Swipe Right. They were on NXT. I could see Vanity Project becoming the new Undisputed Era in NXT. That would be very cool, man. It's interesting. I find the Vanity Project thing interesting because Swipe Right was the first thing. from when I did my audition for Evolve and Dip and I, I sent Dip the tape. When Dip and Natalie watched the first tape of Evolve, they went, ooh, swipe right. Like these guys, this is fun. You know, right away out of the gate.

59:06And then, you know, swipe right has continued to be a fixture, but Jackson Drake has really become the guy. And like, I think we're going to have Jackson Drake on the show next week. And I am really curious about... I'd love to know the thought process, and I guess there'd be other people to ask that would make more sense. But I am curious about their thought process as to why Jackson Drake has been the guy for this long. They've really gotten behind Jackson Drake. By the way, and I think he's awesome, but I'm just curious about what they show. You know what I mean? What is it about him that he's brought to the tip?

59:42Because there are other guys there. Like Sean Legacy has been awesome too. Never had the title. He's been trying to get the title the entire time. Yeah. Well, I think they're trying to make Jackson Drake into a star. That's what they're doing. That's what it is. But I just wonder, but why him? And I'm not saying that in a bad way. I'm saying in a good way. Why? What did he show them that they're saying, we really think you're worth not only winning the title, being the breakout star from this faction, putting the title on you, and then defending it and beating all the other big, the bigger people that we have.

1:00:17I'm just curious to like because this is the first step are they trying to establish him or the title or are they trying to do both at the same time him him because what because what you're they're using the title to elevate him because the title is brand new I know but but when you have a huge group you have like the entire thing is truly developmental ID wrestlers and stuff like that you gotta you gotta figure out you know like there's always like gonna there needs to be a face of it In some capacity. They're always new. You have people trade in titles like that. The biggest problem with Evolve in the beginning was that there wasn't a face of it, in my opinion.

1:00:56So now that they have one, it's like, oh, I can go. If you're a Jackson Drake fan or you're a Vanity Project fan, you're like, I can go on every week and watch Vanity Project and Jackson Drake. So. Again, but you're not answering my question. I agree with everything you're saying. I just want to know. What is it about him? What did they see in him? Yes. Like, is it the fact that. Right. Is he the most natural great wrestler they have? Does he work the hardest? Like, it has to be based at this developmental level. I'm sure it's based mostly on what they show, but I don't. I'm only here, you know, I'm here one day here, one day there, and it seems like they all work quite hard to me.

1:01:33I don't know who has an attitude problem. I don't know who's there early every day. I don't know who does the extra work. I don't know. No, it's a good point. I mean, I don't know. He's a great wrestler. He's, you know, the guy bulks up. He's a good-looking kid. He's good-looking. the guy he bulks up a little bit the guy looks like a freaking star i mean i don't know he's the three of them i call them up tomorrow to nxt then i'm all about the vanity project i love the whole gimmick it's current it's interesting i'm all in on i i will say we we're adding a little thing at today's tapings i'm re i'm reading over the shows and they're adding a little uh they're adding a little like accoutrement to the to the vanity project there's a little they're adding a little something something to them oh fuck yeah i'm i will be watching for sure uh sg sg by the way i'm gonna tell you right now tell our cheap heat audience uh very excited about this i will be in the booth for the evolve matches on nxt oh that's mage yeah buddy there we go that's what i'd like to hear right there i'm gonna i'm gonna sit i'm gonna sit with booker t and vic Joseph, very, very excited to be at Gold Rush starting this Tuesday.

1:02:42All right, let's take a break. Again, who are the NXT stars and who are the WWE superstars you want to see them matched with if that is, in fact, where we go to fill out the Saturday Night's Main event on December 13th? 877-344-4893. I see SGG and Dip. They're doing the work. They're writing it down as well. I'll find out what their choices are. We'll find out what your choices are. much more the rest of the way right here on cheap heat live on pro wrestling nation 24 7 promotional consideration paid for by the following stalk chocolate reason if you like chocolate then you'll love reason extra chewy chocolate caramels covered with a rich chocolate coating so we are talking about many things uh the blood the guts it's maybe time to do that and we'll talk to you guys as well 877-344-4893 people don't seem as excited to speculate on the NXT matches for Saturday night's main event as I hope they would be but uh if you have any good suggestions we'll get to that um let's see dip you watch the blood you watch the guts yes watch the blood and the guts I was very into the guts the blood I could do with that love the guts but um let's see the Mercedes team won yes the Mercedes Shafir uh uh Megan Bane heel team won Let me tell you who I haven't really paid that close attention to, who I guess debuted in February of this year.

1:04:06But Megan Bain looks like us and feels like a star. Tip, do you? This is the upsetting part. He's not in the group chat. He doesn't pay attention. You don't. You don't listen. You don't read the group chat. You don't listen to me on the show. She's the only person in the last year on AW that I put over huge. Hey, we had a whole thing about this. Calm down. Stop jumping down my throat I know but he shows up You show up in November and you go You know who I like Megan Bane I know hit me with my take You know but SGG If it happens on an episode that he missed for some reason He doesn't No she's mage dude She still has work to do But she looks incredible And she can work Yeah we love Megan we I think Megan Bain is is cool I think they're they are leaning into her a little bit too hard too quickly that makes sense there's some there's something there I don't know I mean look I am well they want her to be Jade they're replacing Jade they think I think they think she can be the new Jade plus and they may be right I just don't want them to rush her because I can tell while she's good she still needs work but she jumps off the bed right yeah yeah this she's jumping she's jumping she's saying goodbye to the page there was a page she's jumping right off the page she's off the page yeah um yeah i just i didn't love when when when uh sasha banks takes all the belts and throws them in the in the ring i didn't like that part but i know all in all all in all the this um the sky blue blood was mage oh you love that i love all the blood if you're willing to go out there and bleed like that you're mage okay that's it that's it m a j that's it mage i uh i i i loved no i i i felt the exact same way it gave me an appreciation for sky blue um hell yeah i didn't see i didn't see the whole show yet i like it format wise though i think it is fun that basically those two matches take up almost the whole show it's war games at jace it's it's cool look a lot of people criticize criticize it's working no it's war games it's not war games because it's well it is working it is you have to it by the way i wish they removed it is working i wish they i wish they removed the one whack part of war games but they don't They keep it the same.

1:06:40The worst thing about war games, and I have several complaints about war games, but the worst thing about war games, in my opinion, is that they tell you, and the match doesn't begin until they're all there. So what are we doing? You just have to go with it. I don't know. You just go with it. I know. It's stupid. Why can't... Just tell me there can be... Why does that have to be the case? There should be eliminations possible at any time. You don't have to have very many before you get there, but then it adds drama. what if there are one or two eliminations early like add the why have less drama I don't get it Pete you like me on the song with eliminations especially if you're WWE and you know people have been missing your traditional Survivor Series matches we like the war games but those feel thrown together that is a way to add the Survivor Series element to war games without having to go back you could keep the two rings you could keep all of that but if you add in the eliminations along the way that is a good way to do it and then you don't have to eliminate the whole team but then once everybody's out of the little cages on the top of the stage the shark cages yes then the first pin after that wins the match that i mean that's a that's a slight flip that changes the entire energy of it i just hate the waiting part and and listen i want to get to some calls we haven't talked to anyone yet today but we do have to talk about the the war games matches at survivor series which of course this week there's a lot of conversation as those took shape around those matches um can i just say something real quick right now there are a lot of complaints people have a lot to say about the products right i think we all agree on that there's a lot of chatter at this moment it's kind of loud you want to get people to go, whoa, holy shit, Javon Evans beats Gunther.

1:08:34That's a holy-ish moment. And by the way, again, we've opened the door to Gunther losing because the man had a 30-minute war with Pat McAfee. So don't tell me that a star on NXT now can't have a chance of beating him. Now, it's a really hard spot because Gunther's been gone for so long. So to bring him back and then he loses his first round match would be crazy. But my point is only. But here's the thing. And this isn't meant as disrespect to Javon at all. But in terms of like the way that Gunther has been built up. I mean, bro, Javon beating him in the tournament would be one, two, three kid a Jace.

1:09:19I mean, it would be. Whoa. Like you're made in a night. It's not an insult because look what it did for one, two, three kid. Exactly. exactly that made him it made him it made his career it made his career forever so i just i think that right now you know we're we're in a time where a lot of people are very loud uh there's been criticism about the cena run in general there's criticism about the tournament about war games um and we haven't really gotten to that yet we should spend at least a couple minutes here at the end of the program talking about that. We do have now the semblance of a war games.

1:10:00You have Punk, Jay, and Cody versus the Bronze and Logan Paul. Presumably, there'll be two more people on each of those teams. We don't know who that will be.

1:10:13And now you also have Alexa, Charlotte, EO, Rhea versus Nia, Lash, Legend, Kairi, and Asuka. And guys, both of these matches, in my opinion, I'm fine. They're both going to be matches I'm fine with. Why couldn't this have been a year where they're just Survivor Series matches? How many times can we say this? Every year we do this. Every year we do this. It didn't have to be War Games forever. Survivor Series can exist and be its own thing, and war games can pop up here and there. It doesn't have to be. Neither of these, I hear the criticism that these ones didn't warrant war games. I just, I wonder what it is.

1:10:59What is the thing? Every single fan of wrestling would pop for the nostalgic Survivor Series card. Everyone. There isn't a single person that I know that wouldn't be excited to see this. Why won't they do it? Everyone would want it. Everyone. We did hate Survivor Series right at the end, though, guys. Like, let's not be, let's not forget that, right? It's not like WWE one day was like, Survivor Series is as big as it's ever going to get. Let's switch it while it's at this time. It was like, the way we felt about Survivor Series at the end. What ends? What's the end of the year? The way we feel right now about war games.

1:11:34Exactly. Which is why they're going to stick their guns on this. They can't trust it to be a decision left to the fans. What was the last year that they did the matches? Truly, the whole card was the matches. 99? We went over this. 98? 98? I don't know what the last year what they did was. It wasn't because 98 was the game. The full card. Oh, the full card. Oh, I have no idea. 90. 90. I should know this. I mean, 98. Well, think about it. 97. No, no, no. Because the screw jobs on in 97. Yep. And I mean, tournament. 96. It might be earlier than that. I'm just saying in 96 they did it even if they just had two Survivor Series matches it would have been fine this year I don't know that these stories require you know there was some we've kind of made the regal screaming war games into a bit of a joke but it used to have more meaning because it requires war games but guess what we still have another week to talk about that and we'll do it next week alright don't forget our Patreon She Pete live we are on Instagram as well Cheap Pete Pod you can watch our interview with Kehlani Jordan on YouTube as well SGG Dip stay mage for me will you?

1:12:58I will stay mage you too I didn't even get to complain about my travel today but we'll do it next time stay mage everyone have a great weekend