Peter in Paris

0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy, yeah. The major stick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling.

0:17A thousand percent confirmed. M-m-mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. M-m-m-m-m-m-mage. thanks.

0:58Sweet, sweet Peter Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was repugnant. It's professional wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen, the world's number one sports recreation podcast, Cheap Heat, baby. We're back. And wait a second. Live from the streets of Paris. A stone's throw from where Clash in Paris will be held. the Arena de Defense. Arena de Defense? I don't know. I'm doing my best here. I'm your forever 24-7 champion with boots on the ground in Paris. And I am joined all the way back in Philadelphia by the physically large stack guy, Greg. Hey, SGJ. It did sound right, but I don't want to speak for the Parisians.

1:49So if it was wrong, send all smoke to pee. But there will be no smoke. Come on. We know what we're doing here. And also, even further away, another three hours back is 38 at 35 Dipperstein. Hey, Deb, how you doing? Good. I imagine you in Paris, like I've never been to Paris, but I imagine, you know, when I think of Paris, I think of like small cups of like tiny cups, drinking out of tiny cups, sitting on tiny chairs at a tiny table on a tiny street. The chairs are tiny. The cups are tiny. If you want to know, this is what your Renaissance coffee cup looks like, if that does anything for you, Deb.

2:34It makes it look like Andre the Giant. Is there a single bagel place anywhere near you in Paris where you are? Are there any bagel places in general in France? There's baguettes, though. Yeah, I don't know about baguettes. I think if you're searching for a bagel in Paris, you're doing something wrong. You're probably just wanting to get the baguette. What if you opened a place in Paris which was bagels made out of baguettes? A baguette bagel. A baguette bagel. A baguette bagel? A baguette bagel. A baguette bagel is something. And by the way, the sign for the store could say like baguettes crossed out and it's just bagels.

3:16And this is going to be or baguette bagels. No, it is Paris' awesome. SGG, you've spent time here. Yeah. You have not. Three times. I feel like international. Just everyone please take a moment to celebrate international SGG. Three different trips to – what's your – like do you have a – I was talking to a friend of ours at the company, the great Matt Altman earlier, and I was saying – he was like, I'm only in Paris for one day. I've never been. Like what should I do with one day? And it's like it's a little overwhelming. It's like New York in one day. So what would be your go-to, SGG, that you tell someone, one day in Paris, go do it?

4:00I feel like the neighborhood, I think it's called the Latin Quarters, where the Notre Dame is and all that. That's a good neighborhood to walk around, see some sights. They have a nice, I don't know the names of any of these places, but there's a chocolate shop on one of the streets. Oh, really? You don't say a chocolate shop in the streets of Paris? Wow. Yeah, it's like it's a bunch of cafes, but that neighborhood, I think, is really nice to me. I said left bank, left in quarter is where I thought he should go. By the way, is someone mowing your lawn right now, Dip? They're doing construction, endless construction.

4:37These neighbors, I don't know what they're doing. By the way, they're doing tons of construction. The house never looks any different from the outside. I don't know. They're doing tons of things to the outside of the house, and nothing ever looks different. What the hell are they doing? Nobody knows. Now, I'm going to have to ask you something that's going to be very hard for you. It may ruin this entire show. It's quiet at this moment, but you may have to hover over your mute button and when you're not talking mute because you're catching it, right? I thought it was you, P. I thought because, you know, Paris is a city.

5:04It's the city of lights. I heard the beeping trucks and the activity. I thought it was over you. It's the hills of Dipperstein. That's where the action is. I'm going to tell you right now. If I had one day in Paris or wherever, I think I would storm the beaches of Normandy. that's what then you'd have to go to normandy yeah yeah you'd have to go to normandy how far are you from normandy right now actually how far is normandy from paris no idea probably like you haven't you didn't do it nah i've never done it either it's not it's it's a it's a doable trip hold on normandy uh let's see from my location uh i'm uh yeah it looks like two hours and 27 minutes.

5:50Okay, that's doable. You could do a day trip to Normandy. But I do have to tell you, I think you'd actually, for the same reasons, the things that you like about New York, you would very much enjoy about Paris. It is the definition of either New York or Jace or New York Plus. The definition. Yeah. And the one thing I like about where the show is on Sunday that makes it different than New York is I'm in this part that no one visiting to go to Paris recreationally would ever go to. This is like the business financial area. And what I like about it is unlike New York, it's removed from all the cool stuff.

6:29Like, I don't need all of New York's business crap and people in suits in the middle of all the fun. Get rid of it. It's out here. By the way, I was just at a Hollister at the Westfield shopping mall right here. Oh, Westfield is a big. Thank God. What are you doing? That's basically where I work. Let me ask you a question. Do you think people are sunbathing on the beaches in Normandy? Or do they just leave it alone just as like a monument to the storming of the beaches? Or is it like a beach that people go to? It's got to be a beach. There has to be a regular beach, no? I don't know. It's like sacred ground, I would assume.

7:12I mean, it's for Americans. I would assume so, too. I don't know. Do the French have the same reverence for the beach in Normandy? Is it the same? I mean, it was the most significant battle of World War II, arguably, and it saved the world. It was – well, temporarily. It was the definition of signif. There's no question about it. But anyways, if you're coming out here, you're probably not. But for anyone who's making the trip, it is awesome. The food is awesome. the flight is actually not from the East Coast, not a terrible flight at all No, it's not, it's an easy flight Now you want to talk about a flight You want to talk about a subject that is going to take over this show potentially from now for the next six weeks It is about my flight to Perth for Crown Jewel This could Because you gotta go to the West Coast?

8:08I don't have to go to the West Coast, I have to go to raw which is in dallas okay to get on the flight to go there but then on the way back i'm on my own it's a it's a commercial flight back so in all likelihood it will be and i'm just waiting for dips dips jaw to drop about all this it is the return trip because i'm guessing once i'm in dallas the the charter flight won't be that bad it'll be the shortest trip you could possibly make my guess is straight maybe not i don't know but not straight it's gonna have to stop to refuel there's a stopover for sure i looked it up after we texted about it i looked it up there's definitely there you can't fly for 24 hours there's a stopover in some they have fuel on the planes though they can refuel in the air it there's it doesn't there's no such thing i looked it up but but even they can definitely refuel in the air i'm sure they can but i'm just telling you there's There's no direct flight.

9:05There's no direct flight to Perth. So there's no direct flight from JFK to Perth. That is correct. There's nothing LAX either? No. This is Dallas, which it looked like SGG in the air is a 19-hour flight. So I wonder if because it's a charter, they can do it. You may be right. On the way back, though, the flight that I'm likely choosing is a 28-hour trip back. oh it is is that with the time travel or is that just like straight hours away of that is that is the amount of no no the time traveled significantly less because you're going because i'm coming back it's six days ago there i mean who knows when it is so i i will leave the show the show is on a saturday i will leave sunday afternoon i will travel for 28 hours and i will get back monday morning i mean this is too much yeah we should just tell these people in perth you're not getting wrestling you gotta move somewhere where they're where we can get to wrestling it's crazy much it's it's crazy it i it will be perth to doha to jfk uh-huh what about normandy do you have to stop in normandy you are not dip let me ask you a question though real quick where is doha i have no idea where it is.

10:27I have no idea. I couldn't tell you in a million years. Is it in the Middle East? It is. It is. Where is it though? Doha. Saudi Arabia. No. The definition, some would say the definition of Saudi Arabia Jays. Any guess, SGG? Where is it? Nobody knows. It is in Qatar. Qatar. Oh, it's in Qatar. What a beautiful time of year. How do you feel about Saudi Arabia Jays for cover? That sounds right to me. So, so, but the nice part is it'll be Qatar Airways. So I'll see what that experience is like. And God willing, Natalie can work a plug and get me upgraded because the business on Qatar. Oh, forget it.

11:09It's, it's, it's, yeah, you're, you're moving your, there's shelves. There's God knows what's going on. I saw, I saw an executive friend of ours earlier today and he was talking to me about Perth and he, he has executive privileges, which means he's flying, flying the good way every time. And he's like, oh, I'm on Qatar Airways. It is all good, buddy. It is all good. I wonder what the turbulence is like in that little apartment that you're in. What is the turbulence like in a tiny little airplane apartment? I bet you're going to feel it. You feel it. You feel it. What about if you're in bed? One of these ones that has an actual bed.

11:47Not like a lay flat seat. Like a real bed. Like a bed bed. Oh, and a shower. Some of them have showers. a shower wow now can you imagine how much time do we have to get you upgraded you i know i know we're gonna work on it you have your own shower in the bathroom it's probably been cleaned but in between flights i don't know how well it's been cleaned Do you wear sandals in the private shower bathroom thing? They probably give you good sandals to wear. They probably do. They probably do. SGG is probably right. They're like, here are your sleep sandals. Here are your shower sandals. And by the way, these are very rich feet that are setting foot into this shower.

12:41These are the richest of feet that you've ever seen. Now, I will say this. My feet will be the poorest of feet that I've ever seen. Exactly. Mine too. Now, I basically, we flew Delta out here. And by the way, if you're listening to us live right now on Sirius XM Channel 156, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7, we'll get to all of the wrestling. But if you're new to the show, travel talk does take up a significant portion of what we do. So just come along for the ride, pun intended. I will say I used basically Maya's college fund in American Express points to upgrade us on the flight to Paris. So we upgraded to Delta One.

13:21I have to say the Delta One experience at JFK, I didn't know what this experience at JFK. Have you done it, SGG? Yeah. Of course, SGG has. The man has lived a life of luxury unlike most Americans ever dream of. I'm not a lounge guy. I need to become a lounge guy. I'm a successful businessman. You do need to become a lounge guy. You do. I'm not a lounge guy. I'm not loungy. I'm not loungy. Dip, stop. Also, you of all people, you get to flex. You're not the man of the people. I don't need frosted flakes before I get on a plane. I don't need the stuff. It's way better than frosted flakes. Well, hold on.

14:04Even in Philly. Two things. One, dip, you get to flights early. Like I have knock on wood mastered. I get dropped off at the airport. I get through security. I'm walking down the thing as the clock is edging towards boarding. That's how you live your whole life. So, yes, that's true. But I take pride in it at the airport. I do not want to sit in those seats waiting for the people staring to stand up and get online. I avoid it. At all costs. And while you may be smirch me, feel free to be smirch. I'm not for smirching. I haven't for smirch. Knock on wood, I have not effed around and missed a flight since a teenager.

14:44I don't know the last time I missed a flight. I've run once or twice, which I don't ever do again. I've run. I've run. I've run. People, I've run. I can't run. You know why I ran? I ran. No, you can't, SGG. You're looking nuts. You can't do it. You're too big. SGG is too big to run. It cannot happen. I'll get tackled. Yeah, you would. In this climate. We think something's happening. But, Dip, you know what happened to me? The time I had to run and almost missed the flight was I wasn't with you, but I had been visiting you. Got to LAX thinking I was good. And it was one of those situations where getting into LAX is 45 minutes.

15:20Oh, yeah. You're just. And so Natalie and I ran with our bags and Rocky. Just an absolute nightmare. A long way of saying, though, Dip, when you take Delta One from JFK, you get to the airport and you walk into the Delta area and there's a sign that says Delta One near where you would go to, like, check in at a regular calendar. I know. I've seen it. I've seen it. The line is usually 50 people long to walk into. No, no, not on that side. You go and they take care of your bags and they handle you and they let you out right by security. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. You went better than that.

15:58Not at JFK. At JFK Delta 1, you walk in. You walk down its own pathway to its own area to check in. To Frosted Flakes. Where they take your bags. They take your bags. They give you Frosted Flakes. At which point you never see the real security line. You never go back out. You go through Delta 1 security, which was nobody. and then you immediately go to the Delta One Lounge. Frosted Flakes dip. It's a full restaurant with sit-down ordering. I'm having halibut. I'm having drinks. There's halibut. There's halibut. I don't know which lounge dip has been with the Frosted Flakes. I've never been. I've just – if you can get halibut with Frosted Flakes, I'm there.

16:46Do you want the Frosted Flakes? I like halibut. I don't know if I need the – I'd rather have halibut than Frosted Flakes, to be honest. But for the record, SGG, dip isn't completely wrong when it comes to, like, the Delta Sky Club. Yes, the food is like— That's what I'm talking about, the Delta Sky Club. However, compared to sitting in the chairs outside the plane, you wouldn't rather get a little comfortable seat where you can, like, put your stuff down? You are so—it is the—it is, SGG, one thing. I had a friend I went to college with named Jim Scranton McGee, all right? I think I've told you this before.

17:18Jim McGee was the most all-American guy of all time. I mean, he literally looked like middle class, just blue collar 1985 America. It sounds like a fake name, too, I got to say. Jim McGee. Billy Jack Haynes. I know. Wait, who was? No, no. Dip, who was the jobber? McGee. Who was the McGee jobber? Tom McGee. Tom McGee. Tom McGee. Tom McGee. Yeah, yeah, exactly. My friend, Jim, we call him Scranton because that's where he's from. the man didn't like mashed potatoes and i said i said how can a guy named jim scranton mcgee from scranton pennsylvania not like mashed potatoes that is the equivalent of dipperstein having no interest in first class or a lounge you just want to sit in the filth at the airport i'm to be saying i'm looking yeah i'm looking it doesn't make sense to me at the cutter airways first class I'm not seeing anything great in these pictures.

18:19There is a bed, sort of like a bed adjacent thing. And the meal is like a croissant with like a plate of slop. That's the snack. I'm seeing a slop plate next to a croissant. By the way, I just want to say that the words of Brian Dipperstein do not reflect the words of this podcast, who admire and love the meals on Qatar Airways. And I will have you know right now, Dip, there is no meal. You have a menu and you order as many times as you want throughout the night. You order all night long. I see a bar. There's a bar. There's a bar. Sounds big. Come on. You could dip flair. Yeah, you could dip flair on the plane.

18:57I would. I would. I would. All right. We've covered a lot in the world of travel. And when we come back, we'll cover a lot in the world of wrestling. I am here in Paris where Clash in Paris will take place on Sunday. It is G. Pete Live. We will get into the drama from Monday Night Raw this week, the aftermath, the fallout. One of my favorite people is in a beef with a reality star. I don't know what you'd call this person. Jesus! But also Plus. I mean, she's also Plus in some way. Well, we'll get into it. That and much, much more. Plus, we'll break down the card for Clash. We'll talk some Forbidden Door.

19:35There's a lot happening. It is cheap heat live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. New World Wrestling Federation Superstars Cookies from Solano. Great tasting cookies in 10 fun-to-eat WWF wrestling shapes. All right. As we continue on, it is Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Chief Eat Live, Peter Roseburg, Stack Guy Greg, Dipperstein. I am in Paris where I will be doing the countdown show on Sunday. when was the last time besides evolution which was sort of kind of felt like an add-on for the way they did things sgg when was the last sunday ple besides evolution i don't know it feels like it was a long time ago and i was i was even confused about it being on a sunday i was like this no this can't be right but it's it's it's kind of it's it's kind of crazy right it's it's but I'm excited about it.

20:32It should be a good card. I wonder, I don't know if we're, do we think we're done, guys, in terms of the card for Kalash? It feels pretty, it feels pretty done at this point when they were going over all the matches at the end of, like the middle to the end of Raw. It felt like a full card. Now that they've added like Sheamus and the Donny Brook match and the Donny Brooking up a storm in Paris. So, no, it does look fairly full, But we'll start with the Becky Lynch, Nikki Bella, which is a lot of fun in my opinion. I'm just excited to actually see. So many times when we get to these matches, I'm curious for the outcome.

21:12Not necessarily curious for the match. I am curious for the physical matchup for Nikki Bella and Becky Lynch. SGG, you're supposed to be the stat guy. I'm going to hit you with the second question in a row. You may not know the answer again. last Nikki Bella PLE singles match? I think it was at the first Evolution, right? Could it be that long? When she fought, I believe it was Ronda Rousey. I believe it was in the main event. Let's see here. You know, you can look up the old record on these psychotic websites. Okay, so here you go. Was it Pro Fight Database? Is that where you are? yeah I'm on one of those Evolution versus Ronda Rousey nope and then Royal Rumble 2022 no that's the match that's the actual match yeah her singles her last singles match was because I believe she was in the Royal Rumble yes and and I think they're just saying it says winner Ronda Rousey because she won the Rumble that year I'm guessing um but Nikki was just in that match so her last singles ple match is evolution one october 28th 2018 feels like that was so long ago a not a not great moment for your boy i talk about being in a different place from the last nikki bella match to right now guys that was that was a week after d-day in peter Rosenberg's life.

22:47That was the first WWE event I missed was Evolution because I was on the D-low trying to pull my life together. But here we are and guys, that's an incredible amount of time between matches for Nikki Bella. And Nikki is 41 years old. She'll be 42 in November. She looks incredible. She looks like she's in great shape. but man that that is a lot of time off for a wrestler in their early 40s gonna be fun to see what Nikki uh brings to the table I think she might still have her fastball though I'll be quite honest um and just to be real too the thing about you know people when they watch wrestling they say oh this person they look for the most polished wrestler and they say like they're the best and I don't I don't necessarily think that Nikki or Becky are the most polished but they're two of the best because they're going to make the wrestling feel like they're going to bring the magic to it.

23:45They're going to make it feel like you're really watching people scrap. I don't need a super polished wrestler. I just enjoy that feeling of those moments when you see something that's like, hold on, was that supposed to happen? Or like, okay, they're really laying into each other. That aspect to me is part of the magic and I think they're going to bring it. now uh sug a lot of controversy uh over becky lynch invoking the name of ozzy osborne during raw which was in birmingham england where ozzy is from and uh the line was something along the lines of the only the only thing great you know from this place died a month ago you know but with respect to Ozzy he did the smart thing and moved to a proper city Los Angeles uh if if I were from here I would die too I get it right is that is that pretty much yeah yeah and Kelly Osborne uh Kelly Osborne who you're calling who you're calling uh a reality star Jace I'm calling maybe reality star plus she's not no reality star plus i mean come on come on hold on you we are not going to rewrite history that show was iconic and she was it was iconic it was iconic but let's be real her parents were the stars and they i wouldn't even call them reality reality star i would call the parents reality star at jace the kids reality star at jace you cannot call sharon osborne reality star, Jace.

25:18She is like a foremother to the whole industry. She was already a person, but Sharon Osbourne has basically... She's kind of the first... What's her face? Kris Jenner. Like that. Kris Jenner's more of a reality star than Sharon Osbourne. And Ozzy's not a reality star at all. So if anything, it's Ozzy's not a reality star. Sharon Osbourne, reality star, Jace. kids a jace-esque they are real reality stars you got people from the real world like the ms the reality star these are real reality stars i i i'm gonna go ahead he had a reality show they had a show they are stars that had a reality show they're not reality stars well if anything they're above that then if anything they're a level up because they're worth hundreds of millions of dollars and they literally and they literally kind of helped grow the entire business my point is kelly osborne is not a nobody she you can you can dog her if you want she's not a nobody she is somebody with a uh you know who doesn't understand professional wrestling um i i heard there was some debate on the channel about whether the lines went too far like what are we talking there was nothing mean about if it had been the day after he died then And I would say maybe anything using him for cheap heat is just like a bit much.

26:42I think it's a fair thing to say that like if you're within days of someone dying, using them for cheap heat is a bit much. But like a month later and she put him over and basically said he's big and he's smart and I would die too. It really – Kelly, I get it. You're sensitive. Your dad died. I understand. that's a that's totally feel you but but becky didn't do i basically don't have a problem with either of them i have no problem with kelly osborne getting upset about it your dad just died whatever gets you upset is fine but i certainly have zero problem with becky lynch doing what heel professional wrestlers do right and i i think kelly osborne like you said she's well within her rights to be sensitive this is her dad but like you know the wrestling fans being sensitive about it or like you know feeling like there was a line that was crossed and the company should have run it past the family and this and that i mean what what are they doing like what what where are we now yeah how how who's really upset about this though outside of kelly osborne like you said there was some chatter on the channel about whether or not she crossed the line you know So fans, fans, some fans immediately jumped to it as like, you know, Becky crossed the line.

28:04Shouldn't have said whatever she said. But it's just like, I don't, at least to me, and I might get crushed for this, but I don't see where she said something that was ultimately offensive. Rest in peace to Ozzy. He did pass away. He is an icon. He did move to LA. And regardless of where you're from, you're going to die. If you're from Birmingham, you're going to die. If you're from Harlem, you're going to die. If you're from D.C., you're going to die. If you're from Papua New Guinea, you're going to die. So for Becky Eve to even say, if I was from X place, I would die too. It's like, yeah, you're going to die no matter where you're from.

28:45It doesn't even make sense. It doesn't even, yeah. By the way, why did Dip get left out of death? Oh, Dip is going to live forever. I mean, let's be real. his his decrepit body living off of nespresso pods uh slim jims me me and you everybody else we might be out of here but dip is gonna live forever i feel bullied i'm feeling a little bullied i gotta be jealous i too would like to opt out of death but it's just not gonna happen i'm feeling bullied i'm definitely not opting out of death I mean, I could be moments I have no idea. So Becky Lynch, Nikki Bella, Sunday, guys. How are you feeling about this match?

29:27I guess I lean Becky Lynch, right? I mean, Nikki might be around for a while is what it seems like. So I can't say I'd be shocked if Nikki won, but I'm going to go Becky Lynch. I'm going to lean Becky Lynch too, although I think this is going to be a fun match. And I, like you, am open to being surprised by a Nikki Bella victory. I think either one of them with this championship makes it mean a whole lot. So they're in a good spot right now. They don't have a bad option with a winner for this match and this title. Speaking of the women, how did you dip? Did you get your eyes on Rhea Ripley and Roxanne from Monday?

30:09Yeah, I did. I did. I know that whole situation is kind of like it's in a weird place. It seems a little mush-mosh-y right now. Are you sensing a mush-mosh? I'm sensing a mush-mosh. The whole EO, Asuka, they gave each other, Rhea and EO Sky gave each other a hug. It's a little unorganized right now. I am going to. This mush-mosh situation is not, I don't know if it's working for me. My only disagreement here would be, I'd say, mishmash over mushmash. But I agree with you. I agree that that sort of, if you really look at what's happening in the women's upper card generally, between Stephanie Viqueira, Naomi now is out.

30:58Let's not forget Bianca had her injury and has disappeared. To where this whole Judgment Day thing is, Liv is gone. SGG, I don't think dips out of line for saying there's a mishmash sort of in the upper part of the women's division. I don't think he's wrong But I do also think that His viewpoint is very You know It's rooted in what's happening right now It's the present, it's not very forward thinking And I think that what he's going to see As the oracle Of cheap heat, what he's going to see Is that there's going to be a big shakeup In the top of the Women's division, I think Asuka Is obviously going to turn heel On Io, but on the other side of it Rhea is also going to turn heel on Io and there's a vacancy right now at the top of the card for a big bad in the women's division and I think it's going to be a solo Rhea Ripley.

31:55That means we're going to need some baby faces too so Io's going to shoot up to the top as like a big baby face. Stephanie Viqueira is waiting in the wings but Rhea Ripley is I got my eye on Rhea. I think she's going to turn on Io and that's going to settle things in terms of the baby face and heel dynamics. And we're going to see them have a strong hold on the women's division going forward. But watch out for Ria. I don't think that her and Io are as solid and that they're going to be in the next three months. I think you could be right. I also, I would say it's more likely that Asuka becomes the big bad in the women's division.

32:37and I think Stephanie Viqueira moves into the main babyface spot and I think while they decide what to do with Rhea Ripley I don't know it's either what Greg said or I think what I said it's one or the other by the time we get to Perth it's going to be evil Rhea just destroying you think evil Rhea what I'd like to see is evil Rhea versus babyface Stephanie Viqueira you know macabre versus macabre my favorite we get there eventually but evil rea is definitely in play i i like i like the macabre macabre versus macabre no we know how you feel about that but real quick let me i want to say this respectfully you both are morons i and i said again i said respectfully so i don't think there's any room for anyone to be upset here that made it probably worse but you know are you really are we really thinking after what is going on with Rhea right now and the eyeballs she seems to be getting from unreal everyone is talking her up as like the next biggest thing in the company and we're heading to Perth you think they're gonna go no no and if they do SGG here's why and here's where I'll here's where I'll meet you in the middle maybe if they're gonna do it SGG I think they do it in the middle of the ring after her match in Perth.

34:02She already had her moment in Perth, though. They built, what was it, an elimination chamber. She main evented. She walked in with the championship. She was the hometown hero. She may still get that reaction whether she's a heel or not. She will. She will. Good point. But I think that they're not just looking at Perth and that it all evaporates. They have to build to it and then get past it. And freshening Rhea up as a heel right now, I think it's because people are not going to see it coming. And she is up to the task of making it work beyond just Perth. We'll go back to clash in Paris, of course.

34:37But I do want to step into AEW for a moment. And one of the conversations we didn't, we teased last week, but never got into, guys, was that of Chris Jericho, his contract status. SGG, what is the latest? What are people saying on Chris Jericho's contract? that his contract is coming up coming due in december and that people believe that he is going to be on his way uh back home to wwe is is there any real reason for people thinking this besides it just seems like right i mean i think the main reason for people to think this right is because it's the Jericho thing to do. He's going to jump ship and he's going to run it till the wheels fall off.

35:32And this is the time for him to ride it into the Hall of Fame. So he probably is going to shake hands with Tony Khan, wish them the best, maybe even job on his way out and then pop back up on a Monday night. Hopefully not with the Judas theme. I think that's his worst theme song. Just bring it back to Wow. The Y2J classic break the walls down theme. Wow. You don't like Judas? No. Really? Actually, you don't like The Office either. So, I mean, you have some questionable. Listen, you have some great takes and you got some questionable takes. Do you think Judas is better than break the walls down?

36:09I really enjoy Judas. I do. I mean, do I like him more than break the walls down? Not for the pop, right? Like for the pop coming back, you need break the walls down. dip what's your preference you prefer break the walls down i think i prefer break the walls down but i i don't i you know here's the thing what would the crowd react to more significantly break the walls down or judas with the with wwe down you think so yeah yeah but it's break the walls down is not a sing-along judas is a sing-along that's of the sing-along songs that wrestlers have judas is even not even top five of those it's not on this day it's not the randy or and i hear voices it's not i have a i have a take here you may disagree you may disagree the level of singing along with those songs that we're seeing today came after the judas sing-along the judas sing-along hear me out sgg before you disagree the judas sing-along reaction set off dip do you agree the sing along to judas in aw for jericho led to this new revolution we have where everyone sings along the themes i believe judas was the one i agree i mean i don't know people were singing along to randy but judas may have been like the first true sing-along of like this generation of wrestling fans it feels like a good point it's a good point and then and then they really picked up with the edge and the randy and all the other ones have really picked up.

37:45Cody, of course, but I think it was Judas was the one. I really do. I got him credit. I'll give him credit too. Look, Judas was the one, but the first doesn't mean like, I mean, that's all they get. He's like, all right. The$1 bill is the first in the sequence of the dollar bills, right? Would you rather have a$1 bill or a 10 or a 20 or a hundred? Like, okay, Judas was the first. It's the$1 bill though. It's not as mage as the other ones. I really enjoy it. Listen, my relationship with Chris Jericho is perfect. It is exactly what a life relationship is. There are things I love and hate about this man, and I am honest about all of them.

38:21But one of the things that's on the love thing is his music in general in wrestling, and Judas is high up there. Now, if he is to come back, guys, does he have – he's going to have one more Mania match? Would that be the hope is like one more? I love this man. I can't wait. I love him. I love him I'm a Jericho-holic I always have been Have you ever had a conversation with a bit of Barna? Yes You have? Yeah, briefly, very briefly Not enough to make a decision The ultimate decision No, I have not But eventually one day, I'm sure I will No, listen, and by the way, it could go either way But Does he, let's be honest Chris Jericho has to end it in WWE that like yeah the hall of fame the whole thing has to happen there's no question about it no matter no matter what parts i am not in love with about jericho at times he's been he's he's one of the most diverse sort of uh talents we've ever had he can do so many things well he's had so many great stories with so many people um you know i think jericho's to me jericho's shortcoming if he has one is that as much as he loves pro wrestling and I by the way I actually relate to this okay I relate to this with my own personal issues as much as the man loves wrestling I think it's also never quite been enough he's always thought there was like a level further for Jericho like it wasn't enough that he was a tier what guys very close to tier one talent I'm not saying tier one in the the tears of mage but i'm saying at the big points in his career he has been at the very top of the card i mean listen we i'm not going to sit here and and get into wrestling as if we're inside the show and talk about the fact that he beat the rock and stone cold steve austin in the same night for the undisputed championship but that's a pretty big freaking deal okay he's the man the first undisputed champion so like i just think it was never enough for him to some degree which i think fueled some of the bad moments that there have been but that's a deep emotional and mental conversation.

40:32The guy's an all time. Great. It has to end a WWE at some point. The question is based on what he looked like last time, like I saw him in a match and it looks like we're getting near the end here. It has slowed down. He's lost a ton of weight. The latest photos of him, public photos of him. He looks great though. I know every, he goes, he goes up and down looking great, not looking great right now. He looks great. You know, I don't know if he'd like to dye his hair a little bit and he, I don't know, man. Jericho's an exciting guy. I love seeing him out there no matter where he wrestles. I'm a huge fan.

41:07I'm excited to see him back in the spotlight again if it happens. Well, I mean, and what kind of – so I'm asking the question. He's 54 years old. What level spotlight is Jericho getting if he comes back? Let's not forget, this is a man who when he comes back will be almost Ric Flair's age at retirement. Okay? You want to have your mind blown? Jericho coming back will be, I think, four years younger than Ric Flair was when he retired. That number I just threw at you of Ric Flair's age, I guarantee you, Jericho has looked at that number before and has been like, I can go back for four years. I guarantee you.

41:45If I stay in shape, I can do it for four years. But let's just assume, for the sake of argument, it's one, who would you want to see Chris Jericho have a match with in WWE? I hope they don't do a wrap-up run now for everyone who seemingly deserves it. I don't need a wrap-up run. John Cena, Matt Rushmore of wrestling, definitively on the Matt Rushmore of wrestling. I'm not sure about that. He deserves the year-long schmageggery. I think, you know. It's funny? What? I think Randy Orton, I think Randy Orton deserves a good six months of, you know, a goodbye. Same with Jericho, maybe. I don't know.

42:30Jericho number 30 in the Royal Rumble seems to be a great situation for everybody. I mean, people would go nuts. Nuts. If you see that ball go down that tunnel in that video and that, you know, he comes out, it's going to be a thing. Totally. 100%. Maybe number one in the Rumble. Maybe number one. Okay. Yes, either or. Because they introduce the Rumble. They say this is who the entrance are. First entrance coming out now. And then he has the countdown. Oh, my God. And then he comes out at number one. And then the whole rest of the show is different countdowns. I got to tell you. Don't waste it on 30.

43:11I got to tell you, that's worth the trip to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, in and of itself. Another flight we'll have to discuss. That flight will be a dream after Perth. A dream. You do that one standing up. I want you to clock the turbulence on these flights. I want to know what these laying down turbulence is like, the turbulence in the shower. Do they tell you? I don't think. Do they tell you? Hold on. If they know turbulence coming, do they say, you know, beep, beep, whatever. Sit down. No showers. No showering. Do they tell you when you can shower when you can't? I truly hope I get to be a part of that conversation.

43:50It's going to be. We have a couple of months to work on this. All right. So who would you want to see, though? If there was one Jericho story, he comes back in the Rumble. He gets eliminated by this person, and they get a thing. Who is that person? I've heard L.A. Knight thrown around a bunch of times. Maybe I'd like to see that. Maybe he puts over. I hate the put over. You know, I hate the put over. But maybe if they do that, maybe it's Joe Hendry. you know that seems to fit like like interestingly um sgg any any but like any anyone that excites you excites me no i know that i don't want it to be like a young guy like i i don't want him anywhere near dom mysterio um i don't want him near any anywhere near you know like a roman or like somebody like that so joe hendry feels good yeah right la night feels good i think i think joe Hendry's going to have a breakout, like about to have like a big breakout.

44:50I don't know. I have no idea. I'm just saying I think Joe Hendry is about to like break out in a big way. Well, I mean, you think so, Greg? I think you might be right. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I'm smelling. I'm smelling a Joe Hendry situation. Well, and by the way, he just showed up on the European tour. Yeah. Yeah. They like him. The people like him, most importantly. um he's delivering the entertainment so you know regardless how i felt about him why don't you want jericho anywhere near dominic mysterio i actually think that could be kind of fun dom is so mage right now and rising and i think jericho like in these past few years the jericho that we've got it just hasn't been like yes the name value is incredible we love jericho We love when we see him, but his in-ring bell-to-bell stuff is like, it hasn't been, I think, worthy of where Don Mysterio is going to be by the time of Jericho shows up.

45:50But Dominic retiring AJ Styles, that would be pretty good. The whole Dominic thing is so crazy. The Dominic thing is so crazy. Chris Jericho, but yeah, Dominic retiring people. It's crazy. It's crazy. AJ Styles. Sorry, I was watching Raw in the background. Him retiring Jericho would be something. He might also retire AJ Styles. The Dom thing is so interesting to me. I mean, it's like – it's such a phenomenon. A year ago, a year and a half ago, he couldn't get a word out because of how much – the booing that was going on with this guy. Now he has his own chant.

46:31I would argue he has a remix of the chant that everybody has, which I hate. I hate that they just insert the name Roman Reigns Cody Rose, Dirty Dom Dipperstein Dipperstein Bri, Dipperstein No, no, just Dipperstein Or just Bri, if you listened to last week's episode I know, that was cute Rosenberg Rosenberg Stack Guy Greg Stack Guy Greg I don't love that American crowds do that, Chad what the Sakai Greg chant no that American crowds have picked up that chant I'm like come on man by the way they're so annoying I hate them what the chants the whole I don't like that one I'm not down with that such and such but are you are you going to hate on the crowd on Sunday though will you enjoy a raucous European crowd?

47:37To a certain degree, yes. But then, like, I don't like when they hijack the show. I don't like it. Now they're, like, acknowledging the show hijacking at this point. Yeah. I don't even like... It's like, no. But look, I love that there's fans in France that go that crazy. Of course. We love wrestling. We think it's great. Don't you? Oh, I also think it's great. We love it. I'm also upset. I never came up with a Jericho opponent. Although I really do like I really do like the rumble idea now though that really would be a lot of rumble yeah dip dip converted me like I went from at all though do we get the big Saudi pop for him like we wouldn't Detroit yeah I don't know if it'll be a Detroit pop but we'll get we'll get I gotta tell you the Saudi crowd really I think I think we have like American expectations of whatever that's going to be.

48:36And it's not. They really seem to react almost the exact same as every American show, don't they? Yeah. They do. And like I said, they don't get their credit. They don't get their credit for how much they bring to the table as a crowd for these shows. There's an adorable child behind me kicking her legs into the air. This child is very, very cute. And guess what? She's going to her first PLE on Sunday. Mage. She's got the headphones. I don't know how long she's going to last at the show. Do they have snacks for her at catering also? Because people bring their babies. Do they have baby stuff at catering?

49:19We will have formula. No, but like, you know, the maid stuff. The WWE Parisian. I've never seen baby food at catering. Because you haven't been looking, but maybe there's a situation that could happen. Well, I mean, she doesn't eat food yet, really. She just kind of like mashes banana into her mouth. You know, some mango puree. She's mashing bananas into the mouth. She's starting to mash things. She's mashing into the mouth, yeah. That's how I eat string cheese. I just mash it right into my mouth. Isn't that how everyone eats string cheese? What is this? Punderburg. What is it? Punderburg. it's it's what is it a bundaberg she brought me a drink called bundaberg you ever seen this no no is it is a good passion fruit sparkling soft drink australian it looks good it's probably filled with sugar filled with sugar it's filled with sugar by the way he he he dip turned it into a joke but came out of his mouth was 100 authentic jewish old lady and that wasn't he had to cover it by making it a joke after.

50:29But his natural response is like, you know, there's sugar in there. I do the same thing. I'm sure it's the same thing. You could have let him get away with it. He would have got away with it.

50:43The delicious 400 grams of sugar drink of the cinch. I love it. Alright, so while we're on the Jericho of it all. Let's move on from Jericho and talk other AEW things for a moment. SUG was having a conversation about Kenny Omega that I thought was interesting online. SUG, why did you say you think the door is closed on Kenny Omega coming to WWE? First of all, he's not passing the physical, so that's how... You mean because he doesn't want to... No, I just... I think... I think his body has been through so much Just with New Japan and AEW And he's always out with injuries And this and that That I think that just medically The door might be closed on him Operating at a high level in WWE But also, you know We've said this before AEW Kenny Omega And New Japan Kenny Omega Are different And if he's not going to be operating At that high level That New Japan level That, you know best bout machine level, then I don't need to see him in WWE.

51:57There's some matchups for him over there on paper, but if he's not going to be at the level that he needs to be for it, which I don't think physically he can get to that level anymore, honestly, then he can stay where he is. It can still be a dream because I would hate if the match that I imagine in my head is better than what we get on paper and what we get. You know what? At first, I thought your take was just a random, blind, AW hate tweet. But I see what you're saying now. Yeah, exactly. You've been good for them many times. Yeah. Although recently, you seem slightly less likely to lean that way.

52:37But he's 41 now, Kenny. Mm-hmm. And you talked about it. It is a lot of serious injuries at this point. And if there is a window, do you know, Dip, do you have any idea how long is he how many years either of you do either of you know how long he's supposed to be there no no idea I wonder because the window would have to be soon like if there was a way for him to get one last run out it would have to be pretty soon and I because you really would you're right SGG do you want him to go to WWE if when you get him it's like an older version of him where you don't see the magic because I do maintain that Kenny Omega prime prime kenny omega in ring is about as good as anyone i've ever seen do it oh my god of course he's not up for debate i think people would probably debate that that he's one of the best wrestlers of all time yes i think people in ring he's definitely one of the best wrestlers in ring ever i'm just telling you i think i wouldn't say in ring one of the best wrestlers of all time at the time his in his time though that era he was one of the best you know how they say oh i'm the best today and rick flair would say i'm the best wrestler today even though his day had long been past i think if kenny omega had said i'm the best wrestler today or one of the best today fair no debate but then to say all time and then put him up there with some of the greats of the greats of the and the best of the best of the best no well it's just it's it's a it's just nuance i don't like well here's the nuance of it the nuance is that fans like us aren't able to truly, in my opinion, this is the one thing where I think wrestling is different than sports.

54:20I think in sports, and I know athletes will get pissed about this, but good. In sports, I think if you're a fan of a sport, you can watch it having never played it and be like, I'm sorry, this person's better than that person. It just is. Like, I've seen enough. I know, yes, oh, I get it. There's nuance I'm not seeing. Okay, sure. I think in wrestling, there's a nuanced part of it hey babe do we have to have the plastic crumpling contest right now she is so cute when i scold her for that no it's i hate doing it she by the way there are times when i try to say tell my wife to do something fly by your head no no there are other times when she's just mean to me for like i'll say something and she just gives me a look of death for no reason but when she's disrespecting the radio she does feel bad when i call her out for it although it still didn't stop her from completely going back into the crumpling of the bags but um but i digress i think with wrestling i think that that nuance that's in there of what they see that we don't i think is more valuable than in sports so like i think there's a chance dip that people like me and you who mark out over the way kenny omega wrestles would you be completely shocked if you turned on one of the other shows that we have on pro wrestling nation 24 7 and heard a former wrestler say, oh, that guy's the drizzling shits.

55:42No, he doesn't do any of the basics right. He can't do this. He can't do that. Name his stories that mattered. Name this, name that. So I don't know. But I know for me, from my fan standpoint, when it comes to watching an in-ring talent do awesome stuff that not only is innovative, but looks incredibly clean and athletic, I think Kenny Omega is as great as anyone I've ever seen. do that stuff. I'm going to say, I'm going to go back, I'm going to go back to one thing. Bag crumpling. Okay. Is, is, is, is a storied thing for Jewish mothers. They are crumpling bags for generations. Okay. My great grandmother was a bag crumpler.

56:27My grandmother was a bag crumpler. And when I stay with my parents, my mother is up very early crumpling bags. so i just want to defend natalie okay we got we got a new she's a new mother you let her crumple the bags we got a new shirt we got a new shirt coming on the way dip esteen uh grandson of a crumpler exactly no son of a crumpler son of a crumpler

56:59i'm a son of a crumpler yeah is your mother crumpled bags oh my mom's collection of plastic and paper bags is unlike the the devices that jewish women have in their house to hold the old crumpled bags yes oh you gotta my mom has a thing that hangs from the doorknob yes that's like a sleeve for crumpled bags and what is it it's a bag that it's a that it will eventually be crumpled into another bag no she has some sort of thing that's an actual thing a crumpled bag holder and now i'm looking at my daughter who one day will also be a bag crumpler nothing you can do about it you'll be able to notice when you give her toys if she's crumpling the toys oh hold on she loves crumpling are you kidding me yeah yeah son of a crumpler is maybe the next shirt.

57:54We have people listening right now going, oh, I am also the son and daughter of a crumpler. I can't help it. So, all right. So, we talked some about Kenny Omega. I do want to show some love at some point to what MJF and Hangman did over the weekend, last weekend as well. But when we come back, we will go through the rest of the cart and talk a little bit about Roman Reigns. What the hell is going on with Roman Reigns? And the Shula Fala. This is Cheap Heat Live on a Friday on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Turn snack time into fun time with Mr. Freeze, freezer bars.

58:34It's as fun to squeeze as it is to eat. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Cheap Heat Live. Happy Friday. Clash in Paris this Sunday. Also, yeah, so we're officially going to be in Indianapolis. I'm preparing to get my shrimp. September 20th, I got a dip. Are you going to come? There's a chance. There's a chance. Multiple people within the organization have told me that I probably should be there. Well, here's my question. Do you have any clients who work for both WWE and ESPN, for which this is a big weekend? I know. So his name is Peter Rosenberg. I kind of want to go.

59:19I'll tell you why. For the main reason being that I love wrestling and I think it's great. Well, by the way, if this helps push you that direction, I haven't done this in a long time since the baby was born, but given everything that's going on, I'm getting there Friday. I cannot be there Friday. Why? I cannot be there Friday. I have a commitment that is immobile on that Friday night. You have an immobile commitment. Well, then you're not coming. I'd have to fly in day of. You're not flying in day of to Indianapolis. Come on. What is this, a joke? Yeah. Right. Let's just be realistic. You're going to go one day?

1:00:01You're going to go Saturday to Sunday? Don't yell at me. Well, you know what? This is the irresistible force meeting the immovable object. You're saying the immovable object wins? Yes. The immovable object is going to win. Oh, wow. That is unfortunate. How about this? I will tell you what it is offline. You can't say it all. I cannot. I cannot. I cannot. Only for purposes of friend stuff. But you'll be like, oh, yeah, you can move that. Well, guess what? You're not coming then. There are two direct flights from Los Angeles to Indy. Okay. Both at 1034 a.m. I guess it's one flight under two different airlines.

1:00:44Yeah. And so what time does it get me in? Okay. 539. Forget it. Yeah. It's a four-hour flight. You're not doing a four-hour flight for one night. You blew it. This is going to be a good one. This is going to be a really good one. What's the latest flight out on Friday? There's not going to be any flights probably. Well, what time is whatever you have? At night. It's at night. Well, here is the beauty though. I will say that. I mean, you could get a connecting flight, I'm sure. But LAX is so weird with some of the flights that they don't have. Like, why does New York have 23 non-stops to Indy on that Friday?

1:01:24I'm going to look at it. And LA has one. Isn't that weird? Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. It's the home of Pat McAfee, for God's sake. Do they not know that? It's the home of the Indianapolis cults. It's the home of the most delightful shrimp in all of middle America. At St. Elmo's Steakhouse. Isn't that right, little baby? Oh, yeah. She sounds like she's a fan. She's as bad as the bag crumpler over there. Let me tell you. She's doing tummy time now. She's screaming. Dip, Natalie got me some T-shirts at Hollister. What are your thoughts? I haven't walked into a Hollister since the mid-2000s.

1:02:00I just walked in there. Since the Bush administration. They have some nice Bush 2 or Bush 1? Bush 2. Bush 2. That's a good question. They have some great plain T-shirts. I've never really spent much time there. Oh, really? That's interesting. They also had an Undertaker shirt. and they had a yeet football jersey. You see the yeet football jersey? I passed on that. There's a lot of flights. What are you talking about? Really? So why does Expedia suck? Oh, actually not. They're all stopovers. Yeah, hit not stop. I don't care. Again, again, SGG, can you believe it? He doesn't care about first class.

1:02:35I care. He doesn't care about lounges. He doesn't care about stopovers. I do care. I do care. It's insane. Why don't you walk? Just fly spirit. Just get the owner spirit in. SGG. By the way, S-U-G, it's such a great take. Dip, just start doing Spirit Frontier. Like, just do the worst thing. I'm not. Seats are tiny and they won't bother you. It doesn't matter. I don't like Frontier. I'll tell you that. I'm not. You've been on a Frontier flight? Yeah, I've been on Frontier. You've been on a Frontier flight? I have. Wow. Hello, my name is Brian Dipersin and I've been on a Frontier flight. You think you know people?

1:03:10I'm also the son of a Frontier person. Is that true? Oh, no, no. You want to know who I am? And again, this goes right hand in hand with the son of a crumpler. I am the son of a Southwest parent. Okay. You want to know Southwest. Wait, I'm seeing a flight. I'm seeing a flight. What are you seeing? I'm seeing a 9 a.m. Hold on. 9 a.m.? That didn't do anything. I don't trust Dip. Dip, have your assistant do this. You don't know what you're doing. All right. Let's get back to Kalashen Paris. It's happening on Sunday right here. practically a stone's throw from where I'm sitting at the Arena de Defense here in, well, it's outside Paris and sort of the business district.

1:03:54Close enough. SGG, Roman Reigns has a match to try to get his sneakers back. Let me ask you, we've been tough on Roman the last couple of weeks. I've been trying to ask SGG, the biggest Roman fan in the bunch, some tough questions with regard to Roman. Are you into the Shula Fala business or do you think it's stupid? I'm into it, but for what it means for Bronson Reed, right? Because it makes him... I'm going to use a word that I don't like using, especially towards, I guess, marginalized populations, but it makes Bronson Reed look like a thug, like a street thug, like a bully, like one of those kids that I grew up with, really.

1:04:41And you like that. I like that. I like that because you know what? Representation matters and the thugs need representation too. They need to see a character. They do. They do. They need to see a character that's authentic to them. And there were dudes that would beat you up and then steal your shoes. He's not also wearing the shoes, but I like that. No, he just steals them. So it's so interesting that you addressed that the way you did, because I didn't know where you were going to go. The word, I could, if I were not lazy, I could, you know what? I could use chat GPT and write a great dissertation on the word thug.

1:05:19It is, talk about the evolution of a word. You talk about a word with a million different meanings and connotations as time has gone on. And now it landed at some point in the last 10 years, landed firmly on the it's not a slur, but I don't like it when I hear it kind of word. It raises antennas. You could have gone with, what about go old school, but I find it safer in terms from a racial standpoint. How about hoodlum? No, he is. Literally, all of those things, especially when he came out and he's just like, I'm the Samoan that your parents warned you about. Think about the wild Samoans and how crazy they are.

1:06:02I use whatever trick daddy's definition is. I love trick daddy. I was one of the biggest trick daddy guys in the biz today. I mean, who was it? By the way, you think I wouldn't have been able to guess that you like trick daddy? I'm a gigantic trick daddy. Have you seen any of the videos of little girls, like teenage girls, hearing the words to Nan with their parents? Oh, and they're like appalled? Yeah, a mother playing. like you want to listen to what I used to listen to and playing their like 16 year old daughter Nan and the daughter's like oh my god it's an appalling record it's appalling it's an appalling record it's appalling it is appalling real quick we're going through so many different things right now and that's why this is the number one sports and recreation program in the world the number one hey baby I'm trying to Maya Maya I'm doing the show right now I'm doing She Pete live.

1:06:58I know we're in Paris. It's exciting. You're very cute, but right. But we're talking trick daddy. So it's time to prioritize. If you had to pick one trick daddy song, only one. Okay. By the way, if anyone in the world, I just want to make me clear about this. If you want to know where you stand with me and you're listening right now, and you're all thinking this question through in your head. Just know that if any part of you thought, take it to the house, just know you are never touching an aux cord around me. Just know that. Take it to the house, not in the conversation. I'm a big shut up guy.

1:07:38I'm the biggest shut up guy. It's like the, it feels like the Miami song to me with the band. That's a great call. Shut up is the one. I'm a big shut up guy. All right. Dip's still thinking. Natalie, do you have an answer? No, I'm going to tell you what it is right now. All right. Hold on. Dip's giving me his. Go ahead. Yep. I'm a thug. So I think that's right there in the conversation. Of best Trick Daddy songs? Yes. Yes. Natalie, best Trick Daddy song? Let's Go as Mages as well. She went Let's Go. Let's Go as Mages. Let's Go as Lil Jon, right? That's the Lil Jon one? It's Lil Jonny. it's a little john i think it's produced by little john let me tell you something about dip let me tell you about that time in in music things weren't little john-ish all right they were little john that's true that by the way the best time the best time for hip-hop arguably i'm upset that when i typed in let's go the first listing on wikipedia that came up was let's go Brandon, but the producer is not, is not it's sorry, it's featuring Lil Jon it's not produced by Lil Jon.

1:08:53God, he is so mage Trick Daddy. Is he okay, Mr. Daddy? He depends on your definition of okay. Yeah, he's a loose, he said some interesting things. He's definitely gone hardcore after Ebro. I don't think he's ever attacked me. I don't think I've ever caught it when he's going after. I haven't followed Trick Daddy's life at all. I may have caught a stray. But real quick, if you're wondering why Dip said earlier, you're listening, you go, I don't know of this Trick Daddy which you speak. I apologize, guys. My baby is teething and getting loud. His first album, of course, with Nan that we talked about is based on a true story.

1:09:34But then there was the classic www.thug.com. It was his second album. And then he decided to push things to the next level. His second album, released in 2000, is Book of Thugs, chapter 8K, verse 47. That is incredible. I forgot about that. By the way, that is like you're joking. This is mockery now. Okay. The next album was Thugs Are Us. I'm guessing that one has I'm a Thug. Yep, it does. That has Take It to the House and I'm a Thug. So that one did quite well. After that, he was not done. He went to and had Thug Holiday, of course. Oh, my God, another one. A, Thug Holiday itself is pretty big.

1:10:18But, guys, In the Wind with CeeLo and Big Boy. Major record. Oh, remember that one? In the Wind is a banger. I forgot about that. That was, of course, on Thug Holiday, which is what – that's actually what Natalie and I were privately calling this vacation to Paris. then then there was thug matrimony married to the streets back by thug demand that doesn't even really make sense and then lastly finally famous born a thug still a thug so if you didn't know why dip said i go by the trick daddy definition now now be honest dip in your mind you were just thinking about the song i'm a thug you didn't remember that every album he put out had thug in the title, did you?

1:11:02No, but I associate him with that word because of how many times. No, I do. I know all the times he's used it. I was a big fan. That's it. All right. I don't know how we got... Oh, because you were saying you like what the character Bronson Reed is gaining from stealing the shoes. Let's go back to Bronson Reed. Yeah, so back to Bronson Reed. I like these thugs. www.thug.com is coming out soon. He would appreciate this conversation by the way big hip-hop head uh bronson reed i listen i'm dip has dip made the point last week that roman has really just kind of been like uh captain save a hoe you know like there's a problem roman shows up i don't think that has changed i think right here what we're gonna get is a nice big roman spear and win in the middle of the ring but then we're still left with where do we go next with Roman Reigns dip.

1:11:57Here's the issue. I think he had such an insane babyface run in the last year and a half or two years that it's going to be impossible to repeat that babyface run and to be the... Look, I'm all about him. I've totally come around on Roman. I think he feels like as big a deal as everyone treats him as he is. But at the end of the day, how do you repeat like what you did two years ago with him being like OT, like the OTC thing is going to wane at some point. And it's like, how do you reinvent Roman Reigns? Do you need to, do you want to, I just don't know if you're going to be able to recapture the, the, the, the, the glamor of, of what, you know, Roman has been as a baby face a second time.

1:12:50I think they will, but I think it's going to require a, some shifting dynamics. Seth is already becoming... Because remember, when Roman was on his tribal chief run, his ops, his main rivals were Seth and Cody. Seth is a heel, Roman's a babyface. Now, I think if you shift Cody into that heel position, then that freshens things up enough for Roman to get there. But for Roman to be a babyface, and I said this when it was Cody, he needs some adversity, which is why I don't think the time is now for a spear when Roman, everything is good. I think Bronson Reed needs to put him down. Not necessarily violently, but Bronson Reed, like, you know.

1:13:35That's not going to happen. I wish it would. Look, I love Roman, but he got to be interesting too. It's just not interesting if he just steamrolls. I need to see something at the end of this. Wow, SGG. And him just steamrolling is not. As I live and breathe, SGG, listen, you are growing up right in front of our very eyes. You got to ebb and flow, though. I can't say storytelling, storytelling, storytelling, but then when I'm writing a story, it's, and then Roman wins, and we go to the next chapter, and then Roman wins again, and then we go to the next chapter. SGG, listen. It has to build to something.

1:14:07No, listen, what you're saying is right. Listen, you're about to turn 40 years old, and I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you because I feel like at 36 years old, it still would have been, I just want Roman to win. But I was right, though. I was right when I was saying that. I was 36 and I was right. Until you were wrong. And then you were only wrong once. You were only wrong once. That's right. But maybe, listen, we don't know if you were right. Maybe he could have kept winning then and then he wouldn't be in this place he is now. But either way, eventually you lose and then you have to get rebuilt and reborn in some way.

1:14:38So I'm picking Roman to win. Nice thought there, SUG, but I'm going to go Roman. You picking Roman or are you going with your heart? I'm picking Roman, but I feel like the story needs a Roman loss, but I'm going to go Roman. I guess there is a world in a world where Braun Breaker fears the hell out of Roman, and then he gets tsunamied five times. Listen, by the way - We haven't seen Braun Breaker either. They quietly conditioned us to not think about him. What do we have to say? him. Oh, he was at the end of the Raw, but we haven't seen him with Bronson Reed attacking Roman. On Monday, he was just Roman and Bronson one-on-one.

1:15:20And Braun had a match with LA Knight. Yes, in the main event. But we didn't see them together. Touche. Sheamus Rusev and a good old Donnybrook. I'm going to go Sheamus, but who the hell knows, right? I'm going to go Sheamus, too, but this is going to be a great match. Me too, Sheamus. It's going to be fun. Yeah, no, that's going to be... I hope they... I really would like to see, by the way, can I say something about the Donnybrook? Can we get old school again? Like, let's leave the arena and do crazy attitude era kind of things. I totally agree. You know how I feel about getting outside the ring.

1:15:57They don't like to do it that much anymore. Bring me back to Mick Foley days, man. Like, get me in the underbelly of the arena. It's so fun. Like, you got to separate these matches. And it's not done often anymore. so it really would stand out. I get it. That's not the kind of matches these two have. They just beat the living hell out of each other. But I still would enjoy it. They could do it outside of the ring. That's the thing. Why not? Seth Rollins versus CM Punk versus Jey Uso versus LA Knight. I'm going to say it right now. If Seth Rollins were to lose the title at this point after everything that's happened, I would go ahead and call it one of the biggest upsets in history.

1:16:34I don't care if he's in there with other legends. he absolutely cannot lose right now it would be shocking beyond belief sgg yeah i would call it one of the biggest upsets in history but i also don't see him um i don't see him losing fine i may have overstated it considering he isn't there with cm punk and whatever but it's not happening it just can't it would be it would be madness it would be mad yeah i don't see it LA Knight is not becoming world champion on Sunday. Jey Uso is not getting the world championship back on Sunday. And CM Punk just had the world championship for a second. That story can't end now.

1:17:15So I don't know how it's going to happen. I don't know if there will be Mishigas involving other people. But it's Seth Rollins all day long. Yeah. I agree. All right. Lastly, John Cena versus Logan Paul. As I predicted, it was fun last week seeing John Cena back in the role of babyface John Cena. Like, I don't like how they got there. I'm never going to mince words about that. I'm actually kind of disgusted by it. But we did get this break of babyface John Cena. So last week, getting to see him cut promos as babyface John Cena, it felt pretty good, guys. and I liked him and Logan Paul having like what felt like pretty real talk with one another.

1:18:08It was great. Honestly, it was stellar work from both of them. And it feels like even though I like, you know, I don't like when a few just exists between two people that are talking to each other in the ring. I would say this is the best version of what that could possibly be. So kudos to them. Cena still got it, man. He can still go out there and talk. And Logan paul is a freaking natural in every sense of the word you know how much i respect him it's crazy how natural he is at everything even even his promo game at this stage is you know but it was interesting of course you know saying wow you've had 23 matches i've been here 23 years yeah it was good um and it is important to remember that's a crazy low amount of time think about logan paul he's like one of the main people in the company like i think he's in the i think i think he's in the first series of ljns that they just that they're putting out yeah i can't wait for them i'm gonna buy them all i'll buy every single one well that's what it says on the package it says buy them all you know i'm gonna do what are they out i don't know but i'm gonna follow the instructions and buy them all well you have to um but i think that some of them are the exact same dip are you going to rebuy oh wow this is fun i'm looking at them now the hogan one now i mean yeah i'll buy it yeah whatever you'll buy hogan again it's the same hogan's the same shape though i think all i bought during covid i bought all the ljns that i never had used ones i bought all the ones that i never had so how could i not continue i love the major bendy's ones too man they're freaking awesome i have you know the big rubber guys the big rubber guys are awesome i got the powers of pain what are they what are they charging for the um ljans these days you think the big rubber guys i think are 50 bucks each no sanity yeah no maybe more no they are but but it is insanity they dip is right about the price point and i am saying that that is nuts their works of art wait what do you mean the big rubber ones the regular ones we used to Matt Cardona's is he is a new line of LJN's that are you know LJN and Jace ones that are modeled after LJN's they're called big rubber guys they're called and got it but what are the LJN's going to be called I mean because I don't know plus the half that like 25 2025 yeah probably maybe more I don't know wrestling figures used to cost $4.99 now they cost$20 you know more or more$30$40 No.

1:20:41They do. The ultimate thing, I'm going to look it up right now. Yeah, the ultimate cost like$35. I'll tell you what. My parents would barely buy them for me when I was a kid, and I think the LJNs were$9.99. Yeah. $8.99, something like that. And they wouldn't, my parents, I mean, whatever. I come from a family of crumplers, okay? These are people who fly Southwest, they crumple bags, and they don't want to waste money on action figures, all right? John Cena's going to beat Logan Paul, guys. And does Brock show up again? I would imagine that's possible, right? There has to be moving forward to Brock Lesnar again.

1:21:12I can't imagine Cena and Logan is continuing. This is it for Cena and Logan. They teased somebody showing up, right? Because right before John Cena got cracked, British Adam Pearce told... No, I'm sorry. Nick Aldis told him that, you know, look, so-and-so is going to show up. And then before he found out who that is, I think it is Brock, but somebody is waiting in the weeks. All right. Well, guys, we appreciate you hanging out with us on this Friday. I hope you tune in to the Countdown Show and Post Show, and of course, Clash in Paris on Sunday. We'll be back next week. Don't forget, subscribe to Cheap Heat wherever you find podcasts.

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