R-Truth’s WWE Return Wasn’t a Work

0:18Stay mage and enjoy yourself.

0:30Muzzer. Midge. It's still rooted. Bitch. Male. Muzzer. Bitch. It's still rooted. Oh, I'm sorry.

0:57Sweet, sweet, Peter. rosenberg shout out to that guy great i like delicious chicken it was repot it was repot it's professional wrestling ladies and gentlemen the world's number one sports and recreation podcast cheap heat wednesday june 11th i'm your forever 24 7 champion peter rosenberg joining me from philadelphia pennsylvania is the the svelte looking in that black t-shirt physically large stack guy greg yeah you got to work the angles you got to get the right stuff with the right cuts you know if if if you're not gonna put down the fries or go to the gym delicious chicken yeah or go to the gym just get get some stuff that's cut to you know work your angles that's all you gotta do it's a great it's a great point by usgg and also i'm here to tell everyone watching on youtube we're gonna talk about wrestling today okay

1:58There you go. Wrestling. All right. It's a promise from me to you. We're going to talk about pro wrestling. You were missed at Dipper Lago. Yeah. I had, of course, the FOMO kicked in way too late when I was just like, you know, I should have just gone to the. Do you know, you know, Dipp at first was like, I said, are you inviting SGG? And he said, well, sure, but he's not going to come. And I said, that's the physically vacationing. I said, you never know. I said, Emilio will not come. He's the physically not leaving Staten Island. I said, but the physically vacationing might pop out. You never know.

2:43And you did not, and you were missed. So look, I got the invitation. I had court on Monday. So you never want to risk getting stuck that far out. So I couldn't do it. But the invitation was made. And then as the Saturday night progressed, I was just like, yeah, this is going to be an event. Because it looked like it was starting to be the official after party of Money in the Bank. In some ways, listen, once R-Truth walked through the doors, man. that's when you know oh we're this is the official money in the bank after party right here yeah when our truth on his night showed up i was gonna say the three biggest winners for money in the bank so you know how i'm gonna celebrate this wait hold on hold on briefcase one seth rollins yep winner of the women's intercontinental championship yep Becky Lynch yep now here's my question what did Ricky Saints do at Worlds Collide I didn't catch I didn't catch his match at Worlds Collide I saw the main event of Worlds Collide was he on it though was he on Worlds Collide I don't know if he was Worlds Collide I don't think he was I don't think he was even though he was in the promo the week before I feel like he was not in a match let's see no he was not in the Ethan Page match with Javon Evans no he was not there but Ricky Saints was in the building who was a big winner in life let's just be honest I mean come on by the way I'm growing to really like this guy I gotta admit yeah I gotta admit yeah of course we all he's an interesting cat though like his vibe is interesting but like I'm growing to really enjoy the company of of ricky stark saints he was there mj the entire dip world order the dwo was in effect is that what we call it is that what we're calling it now is because you know there's been some names kicked around it's been the dipperstein family dipperstein family's big too dip world order dip well i mean it's hard to have the dip world order when he's part of the jew world order so it maybe it is i you know i personally have been calling it the majesty because that just feels right majesty the majesty does feel good even though it was once my nickname on this show but i guess i'd be willing to give it back to the man who says he who claims well who claims to have come up with mage you know how he feels differently of course um but anyways Whether you call it the Majestead, the Dipperstein family, or the Dip World Order, everybody was in the building.

5:39And it was a very cool event, including former world champion. A man who, what does he do, Natalie? What does MJF do? Hurts people. He hurts people. That's right. He hurts people. That's right. He was there as well. The other day, Natalie was talking about how she wanted to hang out. she was like she saw a picture that me me sam dip and mjf hung out and she was like i want to hang out with mjf i love mjf why why aren't i hanging out i said babe i said you don't even know i said you don't even watch what do you mean i know you love the guy but why are you acting like you're so starstruck like when you all you know him better as a person you barely even know what he does on tv and she went he hurts people and i went yeah i went when you're right you're right he hurts people he hurts people cannot argue with that um so yeah it was a really happy happy birthday dip was there cake was there was there was cake monkey which is his aunt's bakery um but is that all in la um yes but there wasn't there wasn't a cake per se but let me tell you something the level of charcuterie at this event you've never seen charcuterie like oh no we've never seen charcuterie i'm a charcuterie guy too and he and he had and he had napkins that said dipper lago on them i saw the napkins i saw it too late to tell zach to get me a napkin because you know me and zach we're collectible guys so you know definitely need a napkin this is right when mjf walked in second the door open oh that means Alicia Tout was there too depending on your Canadian-ness we break rules, we break checks we break arms, we break legs we break rookies, we break vets we break reps for break vets I gotta tell you by the way just as a song just as a song you don't have to watch wrestling that's a song that you can put you can put it in a movie fight scene and then, you know what I mean?

7:59Like a big fight scene's coming up or somebody's preparing for the fight. It doesn't even have to be a heist. You know what I mean? It's so damn good, man. It could be the intro on a TV show. It really does it all. Yeah. Let's see if it's not playing. Why is it doing this again? Haters.

8:25DZA? yep where in the world are you right now it sounds like he's on a submarine i'm in hill land right now parts unknown no i you you said on instagram you said you were on you i saw you on a plane it looked like you were going to some sort of country he's too early for paris i am going to a couple countries pd right now it's not the time i'm going But I'll be there next week. I'm on my way to Berlin. That's the name of my project. That's coming out July 3rd. But I have Mary Jane in Berlin, the Mary Jane Festival, June 17th. And then I'm on my way to Paris after that for Fourth Row. What's the date on the Fourth Row of Paris?

9:12June 27th, I want to say. 27th? Fourth Row of Paris is June 27th, yep. All right, well, listen, we're just calling very quickly. I just wanted to tell you, me and SUG were just talking. and sorry he can't hear you, SGG, because I can't get it to run through my damn board again. I don't know why. I'll try again. It just doesn't seem to work. Yeah, it's not. I don't know. It literally depends who I call. It's annoying. Anyways, but we were just calling to tell you. This is a great video for YouTube, by the way. Oh, it's the best, but at least they can hear it. But let me just say this. Yo, man, the Hurt Syndicate song, it's...

9:42You guys how classic that thing is? Yeah, bro. It's actually created... It got legs of its own now, bro. I was like, I didn't think it was going to be as crazy as it was when I was doing it. But it's actually some very, really fucking cool shit that is moving the way it is. Like, it's a good song on its own. It's a great song as a theme song. It's got the crowd chanting, we hurt people. You know, now our good buddy MJF is hurting people as well. I mean, could it be any better? Bro, how about I sat with MJF and P at your fucking wedding? Was the cards already lined up then? Was this a Peter E. fucking collaboration?

10:29Did you plant no seeds? See, we break arms, we break legs. You know what I'm saying? Come on, come on. And to make it even cooler, fingers crossed on this happening because it went through one channel already. but me and Wes may be at all and just not his fans. We'll just leave it at that. That would be hard. Alright, we gotta go talk about the pro wrestling but we just wanted to tell you that. Oh man, I love you bro. I'm here. Later buddy. Wow, that would be crazy. Wow. Breaking arms and breaking legs in front of 50 ,000. That's why you listen to Cheap Heat for the exclusives like that. We went from breaking bread at your wedding.

11:20Breaking arms and breaking legs. Man, it's crazy. What a time. What a time. All right. We should do it. We should talk about the pro wrestling. We have briefcases that are out right now. We have a new women's intercontinental champion. We have one of the craziest returns. Let's hear the beginning one more time. Make everyone feel good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We break rules. We break checks. We break arms. We break legs. We break rookies, we break vets. Break rookies and we break vets. Yeah, dude. All right. I didn't even have a chance to put out the damn R-Truth video. I was going to do a separate R-Truth video to commemorate his great career in WWE.

12:04I didn't even have a chance to do it before he was back. and all I'm going to say is I'm not saying this based on any information I was given except the information that I was given okay this was real man he was gone and he came back everyone being like no it's a double triple work if that's the case then people are even better than we realized and I truly, I mean, listen, the guy is outright telling the world, no, they heard, Nick Khan heard, Triple H heard, they reversed course. Listen, you never know. It's pro wrestling and that's why we love it because there's no world in which you can watch a sporting event and what we got on Saturday night can happen.

12:59Wrestling is the only place in the world where you can get the feeling that we got when R-Truth, a.k.a. Ron Killings, came back. Now, one more interesting thing to add to it just while we're recapping it. On the post-show, I said we didn't get R-Truth. We got Ron Killings. Did you know at the time that that's what he was going to be going as? That was the Monica? I had no information. I get no credit. That was a complete, I just saw it. Big E was talking about how he looked different and I just thought it was a cool thing to say. I'm like, he did look different. Maybe that was Ron Killings. I didn't know the man was going to cut his braids off on national television.

13:45I didn't know anything else. International television. But it does seem like SGG was prophetic because now we have Ron Killings. Yeah, it absolutely is. I call myself the Oracle, but it's something about when you get on that pre-show, kickoff panel, post-show stage that just the vision comes and lives through you. Because I remember when Punk came back at some other series - Talk about it. He said, perhaps the best in the world can make an appearance. No, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Something like that. You did use the phrase best in the world. I said, I said, I got to give it up. We're here in Chicago where the fans are some of the best in the world.

14:24and then what happens at the end of the night he shows up then uh then at the end of this most recent ple money in the bank you say you say it we got ron killings and then wwe shop posts a new shirt he's that was the first shop so that was the first thing i saw so after i said it at some point maybe they went to triple h talking or something and i look at my phone and i see what's going on and i see a post from wwe shop and it's like ron killings is here and i was like wait a second yeah did i just change the game what the hell just happened man that's that you definitely did man of course let me so so i loved it i thought it was awesome i'll tell you right now i'm curious for your feedback my only disappointment in it was while i loved truth's promo on monday and i get it we have to get to the punk thing i wanted him to interrupt cena i wanted to continue with it i i know that wasn't the plan see and that's how you know it wasn't part of a plan because if it was part of a plan exactly because they stayed with what the plan was which was for cena to go to punk if this was a plan you're telling me it wouldn't have been doper to have R-Truth and Cena go at it again in the next one?

15:47That would be the no-brainer thing to do. Or at least have the promo be together. Because he could have said everything he should standing on the desk in a promo with Cena, basically. Maybe it would have been hard to pull off the cutting off the dreads. Although he could have. I mean, cutting off the braids. He could have, though, maybe. He could have chased Cena out with the scissors and then just decide to cut his own dreads. They could have done something. But yeah, I don't think they should let R-Truth just, or Ron Killings, I should say, divert from Cena just yet. Yes, Cena challenged Punk for the Saudi match.

16:20The people are looking forward to it. We've been wanting Cena Punk the entire time since Punk came back. But other champions have had to balance multiple ops. So if Cena has to deal with Cody and Punk and Ron Killings, I'm okay with that. I'm absolutely okay with that because Ron, I think needs to be involved in that top, that top tier scene. I would love that. And I would love for us to get to the point where, and I see other people saying another thing that I've said, do you remember SGG? And I may have even said it to truth on the show. I remember saying on cheap heat, maybe Emilio can find it a long time ago.

17:09I would love to see Ron Killings get a world championship. I know I've talked about that, that it would work. Truth getting a run with the title, even at this age, would work. It would be awesome. And I see a bunch of people now saying that. Hey, now that we're seeing how organic this is, now that you're seeing the stats, which are saying his segment got more viewed than Cena and Punk, yo, maybe he's the guy to unthrone John Cena, to dethrone him. I'm not saying he is but I'm not saying he's not yeah I can't say that he's not I can't say that he's not especially because nobody's more of a lifer than R-Truth especially now and he got so much heat on him and then what would that look like is always a question I have with champions I think it would look interesting and that's the main thing if it looks interesting then I can be sold really easily on any champion.

18:09And it would certainly look the moment would be crazy. Let's see. Let's do a quick update. Quick update on how Maya is doing right now. Take a look inside as she did whether I need to get her. There we go. Maya cam. We pull up the Maya cam live. I hear her slightly. Is she at the point where she's going to start climbing out the cage? She can't climb out the cage yet, but as you can see, she's starting to roll over. She's kicking out. Right now, she's trying to kick out. Right now, she's not even quite crying. It's more like a... When she gets to the rope, though, it's over. That's when you've got to really start worrying.

18:57I might have to bring her. Might have to pull her out. She might be having enough here. I added a new I added a new co-host seat here for her should we see how she does in the co-host seat well we don't have dip so we do need third mic alright let me see hold on we do need a third mic

19:26he is without question The most death-defying athlete in the history of professional wrestling. A homicidal, suicidal, genocidal human machine of destruction with no fears and no peers. He is the most unique sports entertainer to ever grace the square circle, not just here in ECW, but anywhere on the face of planet Earth. He truly epitomizes the word extreme. And his name is Zabu.

20:16Can you see Greg? look who's that hey mj you see him is that me and maya all right we're gonna give it a shot hopefully she's down to hang we're gonna see how it goes it's 50 50 she's good mom went to yoga so we're gonna do the do the best we can here um so sgg i don't know whether we'll ever get this opportunity with with ron but the fact that he's back is phenomenal however they got there listen i'm glad they got there you know what i mean let's let's let's never make this mistake again that was the fastest reversing course i've seen i think ever but i'm with you i do believe that he was gone and they they did reverse course and they called him back what is the public saying is the public saying more of that or more of that people think it was a work?

21:14It's split. What I'm seeing is split. A lot of people are saying it's a work. A lot of people are like, well, you know, good on them for listening. There's a lot of evidence mounting in favor of the it's a work, you know, specifically the speed that it happened. The fact that, you know, after R-Truth said that he was gone, Rhea posts a picture in a shirt on Monday and then that shirt now is for sale exactly that's the shirt they're like hold on they just had an R-Truth shirt in the cut and then now coincidentally that's the shirt that's for sale some people are saying that that was already on the shop it's just being rebranded as a Ron Killings shirt I have no idea but the Rhea Ripley shirt pick definitely leans it in favor of this was a work.

22:10That is a good question about the shirt. I did hear about the reassured, although that's not the best shirt of the week. I got to give it up. Best shirt of the week goes to Becky Lynch. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Miss Rachel. Yeah, shout out to Becky Lynch for rocking the Miss Rachel. I love to see that because, yes, Miss Rachel has come under fire because she has expressed caring about Palestinian children, which of course in 2025 is taken as being anti-Israel. This is a woman who's full-time brand. Everything she does is just about caring for children. Right. So you're telling that person she shouldn't express her care for a group of children that's probably at this moment at least among the if not the most endangered children on the planet that doesn't make sense so the fact that people would come for her is psychotic uh if you are not able to have enough separation in your brain for like oh you can care about the well-being of children and it doesn't mean anything except that if you can't do that that that's on you bro that's that's not on miss rachel so shout out to becky lynch for for rocking the miss the miss rachel jump off um our other biggest takeaway of course in the weekend is mr iguana i mean that's yeah people love the we love the iguana great segue by the way thank you thank you very much and you know maybe not the best week to do trump but there was we were at a point I was partying the Saturday night was partying with a lot of partying with Dip of course other people you know Greg Domino Chuck and Zach Linder three of great guys and all of us we were doing it all because we realized something I had a major realization so chuck who who also works in in in pr and wwe chuck was doing he was doing the trump voice and and i said where'd you get that and he got it from dip oh no he copied it from dip but wait a second dip copied it from me but wait a second i copied it from zach did you And we were all in the same place at the same time.

24:50And then I'll tell you what, once Zach started, it was clear who the originator is. It was. Oh, you have to pay respects to Zach. Oh, no, Zach. Zach's a level up. Like when I'm at my best, it's pretty good. But Zach has another gear because he's he added to the main thing that I've said this before on the podcast. The main thing I learned, and listen, again, maybe this week of all weeks, as our country is turning into a dystopian authoritarian dictatorship, maybe it's not the best week for the Trump impression. But in general, this is an important thing for people to learn, if you didn't hear me say this previously.

25:28What took me up to another level on Trump was the growling. It's all that sound. We love it. The growl that's in there. She's not a fan. Honey, I'm sorry. It's just me. It's just me. It's not Trump. It's just me, baby. And for those of you who are saying, well, you started this podcast saying you're going to talk about wrestling. He's a WWE Hall of Famer. We're still on track. We're not that far off track. No. We're still. And I don't know if you know this. And I don't know if you know this. Zach Linder used to work for.com. So we're still in the boundaries. We're getting up on the edge. You're right, but we still are.

26:14You're right. But compared to last week, compared to last week, this is like busted open. This is not Sam right here. So yeah, Mr. Iguana who debuted at Worlds Collide got a lot of attention. People love a fake animal gimmick. Yeah. Look, I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't think I'm that much of a purist, but I will say it was interesting to see just how many people loved it. How soon till we see Mr. Iguana interact with Santino's snake in TNA? Is it a snake? It's a cobra. A cobra, it's a snake. But it's a cobra. Just stronger than just a snake. because you can have little garden snakes. We're dealing with a cobra when we talk about Santino.

27:12That's got to happen, right? I think so. That's got to happen. I think so. It might take some finesse to get him from AAA to TNA. No, it won't. Light work these days. Light work these days. Speaking of which, SGG, I haven't seen yet what this looked like. Robert Stone versus Santino Morella. Look who that special guest referee is. I see it. Is that Long Island? I see that is. So they had their match at against all odds. Santino Morella fighting for his job against the sheriff of TNA, Rob Stone, who looked, he was just handed. Hold on. Someone just handed Robert Stone the badge. He's got that badge.

27:57I think that was Victoria Crawford. Victoria Crawford handed Stone the badge. and now Long Island I see the referee getting involved saying no no Mr. Stone you don't get to use this badge and all of a sudden now here comes Victoria oh scissors kick she lands the scissors kick to Santino Marella Stone will go for the cover to kick out but by the way what what a horrifying count that was from Zack Ryder oh my Zach by the way this is what Stone looks like with his hair out these days by the way she really victoria got all that scissors kick right to the back and neck region as good as that scissor kick was that count was dreadfully horrible i gotta tell you man this robert stone he's in tremendous shape huh yeah that's championship weight right there look at this guy i mean his hair is uh-oh no but santino's hulking up now santino respectfully is not in the shape robert stone is it doesn't have to be who is that's the other thing and who is he's a modern day Adonis Robert Stone and they're trading rights in the middle of the ring stone down to one knee but back at it and connecting these guys are just exchanging blows it's like it's the AVN awards oh he still got it the hip toss from Santino the crowd's gone mild but there's victoria getting in the way again and zach rider's trying to chase her off oh the low blow stone connects with the low blow he's gonna steal it the pin another terrible job by the referee getting there zach you know zach has got to be the worst referee i've ever seen in my life i've never seen a bad ref like this i'm pretty sure he called off the count before Santino kicked out.

29:57Was that, well, I think that might've been intentional. I hope that was intentional. I hope that was the point was him saying, I'm not going to let you win. Because if so, Santino forgot to kick out.

30:10This is Robert Stone. He's one of the voices of WWE Evolve. Did you know that? Of course I knew that. I feel like our listeners also should know this. Evolve every Wednesday's new episode tonight. That's right. on Tubi as Robert Stone goes up top. And the Vanity Project needs more gold, by the way. So I don't know if they're involved tag team championships in the work or if they just need to go up and take the NXT championship tag team. Or if Zeta Steele can make a play at some point on Cali Armstrong. Yeah, but they need more gold, I think. Oh, no. I'm worried about Stone here. Yeah, you should be.

30:46Super kick from Santino. That was a nice super kick. Oh, now we hit the... Oh, they cut us off there. I did not get to. I think I know the result, though, and I don't think it was good for Mr. Stone. Unfortunately, SGG also coming out of money in the bank. Of course, we can't gloss over the briefcase situation. We now have Naomi with a briefcase. Did you call Naomi? I did not. I don't think I did. Who did you pick? I picked Julia. Oh, you picked Julia. Julia. As I thought about it more, I thought Naomi was a good pick, but I'd already locked into my Roxanne pick and I can't go back on that. And I get why I made it.

31:37But I have to tell you, SGG, I absolutely love what Naomi having the briefcase does for her. Same. It's why she came back, right? It's why everybody needs to proceed with caution because this is not the same woman that was just looking to glow up on Friday nights. She's a threat to everybody. And did you see Becky Lynch's? Well, of course you did. Becky Lynch's comments at the press conference. I mean, I'm hoping that, yes, it's the Intercontinental Championship, not one of the women's world titles, but I'm hoping that those two ladies get on a collision course because Becky Lynch has not forgotten about what she considers a slight from Naomi from many years ago.

32:30And Naomi doesn't care whose toes she's stepping on right now. So let's throw them in together. So you have Becky Lynch. She could go after that Intercontinental Championship. I don't think she will. I don't, but I would love for her to do it. It would be fun. It would be fun. There is a lot there to be done. Which title would you predict that she goes after? I would predict... I predict that she goes after that SmackDown championship. Tiffany Stratton's world championship. Which could be fun too because Tiffany's gotten to be such a baby face. People seem to love them some Tiffy time. Yeah. And it'll be exciting.

33:19The two of them are so athletic. I think their styles complement each other very well.

33:26Hold on. Maya. Does Maya have a pick for who she wants? Maya, who are you talking about? You don't like Tiffy time? She's like, no, I favor EO cry.

33:39She's like Tiffy time. More like bottle time. I know. What if I put this? Hold on. I'm going to tuck it in.

33:50we're doing the best we can here okay dad's dad's doing his absolute best i apologize everyone this is the content that people want are you sure they first at first it was you don't talk enough about wrestling now we're finally talking about wrestling and there's a baby crying throughout the entire episode it's not what you want people have been waiting to meet this baby though for so long and this is her first episode co-hosting this is

34:31well i don't think there's any need for this but who can disagree with that who can disagree with that. You know what she's saying? She's saying, I don't want this unicorn. I no longer want this unicorn pacifier. I need an iguana. That's what I'm hearing. I thought she mentioned something about Jey Uso also in the end of that championship run. Which ended like this? It ended just like that.

35:01I might have to feed her. I don't think I'm going to get out of this. Are you... We can pause. Can we pause? Are you around? Yeah, yeah. All right, I'm going to hit pause. Tonight on the Hardcore Hotline, get the inside untold story of Jeff Jarrett's defection from the WWF to WCW. And more defections are on the way. You'll never believe who's coming to ECW. And we'll also tell you who's been turned down as well. It's all tonight on the Hardcore Hotline. 1-900-RUN-4-ECW. We have put Maya down. Let's check in. Since we last were talking to you, I realized she had a diaper full of shit, respectfully.

35:49It's not the smear you want when you come to cheap heat. Yeah, no. Sorry, a diaper full of shit. And then I fed her five ounces. Let's check in and see how we're doing now, SGG. update again there we go jobbed out should I go lift the arm three times if you want to keep it old school I don't want to risk it they always find a way to kick out at two the only two people who can get up after the arm gets dropped twice or two people Hulk Hogan against anyone and Pat McAfee against Gunther other than that By the way, as good a time as ever to revisit, I suppose that if you're Andrew Goldstein and the likes, you can say, see, it didn't matter.

36:45Why were you getting bent out of shape about Gunther losing? Now, I view it the other way. It looks even stupider. Yeah. It looks even stupider. His character did not gain from that. I do think Pat did. I'll give you that. If you want to use Pat again in a in-ring capacity, Pat gained. You can always go back to you. Remember the fight he put up against Gunther? I'll give you that. I'll give you that. And then he can say our world champion. If he comes to the ring fast enough, he can say our current world champion. Right. He lasted 19 minutes with the current world champion. Now, I still think he could have lasted that time without getting nearly as much offense in as he did.

37:29Nearly. but but you guys are telling me that gunter was helped by that match in this path to getting here and i i guess i guess without any further ado we should probably get to the the biggest story of the week which is the jay uso championship run run let me try it again we should get to the biggest story of the week which is that the jay uso championship run is over after what 51 days I believe so yeah 51 days he won it at WrestleMania defeated Gunther and just to get back to your point though about Gunther McAfee and how they tied into this the story of the night was Jey Uso put a lot of pressure on himself he had that tag match and then he tries to go in against Gunther now just think about how much better that story would have been if Gunther had destroyed pat mcafee and in addition to the jay jay usos injured angle that they were running they were like and this version of gutter is more vicious and more dangerous than we've ever seen him i feel like that enhances it exactly i just don't think exactly if if we had seen that he was so vicious and so instead he kind of struggled to get past mcafee again i don't care what people say oh Oh, no, he was toying with him.

38:53No, he wasn't. Pat was in the match. Like, I'm sorry. He was in the match. And then he beats Jey Uso. At least Jey Uso, your world champion, could have looked way better than Pat did. Now, at the end of this match, Jey fought and fought and fought. But guess what? So did Pat. They kind of lost the same way. And Pat got respect, right? Like he had, he, he goes back and he shows Pat respect, but he has no respect for the man who made him tap. It's, you know what I mean? Yeah. Weird. Right. But he had to show respect to Pat, but he didn't. And by the way, him and him and Jason to have like a pretty bad war of words prior to that.

39:43but whatever i i i digress i digress sgg um how do you feel about us where we've landed here now going back to gunther and how did we get here why did we get here is this the place to be what does this say about what does this say about jay moving forward too look i there's a lot of questions i don't think jay is in any trouble moving forward right because i've said this since about this time last year when jay usso singles run was getting up off the ground and the the thing about jay is we love him because he gets his ass beat and he does not quit, right? And it's hard to show that with the championship in hand.

40:39He needs these moments like this where it feels like he has just been defeated, literally, but just those ass whoopings. We love that because Jay comes back and he shows a lot of heart and that's what people was connected to. That's what people when he was feuding against Braun Breaker for the Intercontinental Championship. That's what they got out of him with this Gunter run. And the more heart that we get from Jey Uso, the more people are going to love him. So ultimately, I think losing the way he did and showing that heart and that fight and that never-say-die attitude is going to be bigger for Jey Uso than getting past Gunter again.

41:20So you think that's going to happen? That he's going to get the title back? Do you think he's getting it back? maybe not eventually, maybe not right away, but I think eventually he's, this is not going to be one and done, right? I think Jey Uso's in line for multiple world championship runs. I don't know who the champion is going to be by the time he gets back to it, but I also don't think that by losing to Gunther, he's suddenly going to be in a free fall because again, what we get from Jey Uso and what we love and what we love this entire time is that he's all heart and that supersedes the moves that supersedes the the gimmicks that supersedes the catchphrases that supersedes all of that when it comes to connecting with the fans he's all heart and that part is not going to go away in fact with him losing the way he did it's it only gets enhanced and it's only going to take him to the next level i have concerns stg what are your concerns why are you concerned I just I guess I just am curious I feel like they're gonna get him away from Gunther soon because this has been going on for a long time right yes like since November I want to say they told the story here's the hard part they told the story of Jay climbing the mountain that story has already been told right so I don't think we're telling that story again we've now told the story twice of Gunther dethroning Jey Uso is Jey Uso going to tell the story twice of dethroning Gunther?

42:56I don't think in the immediate we do that. So the question is, what do we do with Jey in the immediate? And I'm curious to see what they end up doing with Seth getting a title. because if you were going to soften up Jey Uso in the tag match, which they did at least we should mention that they softened him up, they worked the ribs and then he loses they beat him pretty bad but I don't know then couldn't you have just had him Seth cash in that night to end the show talking about money in the bank I thought for sure we were going to get a money in the bank cash in When they put that match on last, I thought that meant someone's cashing in.

43:48Yeah. And Seth cashing in on Gunther? Eh. Seth cashing in on Cena at this point? Eh, that doesn't make sense. Seth cashing in on either of the two people with championships currently doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't make sense. But what does make sense, I'm putting my little tinfoil hat on, right? what does make sense is Seth cashing in similar to how he cashed in last time, right? Raw set up that King's Crown tournament, King of the Ring, Queen of the Ring. They have an open spot next week. Braun Breaker was in one of those fatal four ways attempting to keep Sammy out of it, but Sammy's in.

44:39That mystery spot, I think, call me crazy. that's a spot for Jey Uso to go in win the tournament go to Saudi come out challenge maybe Gunther or whoever the champion is at SummerSlam and then remember when Seth cashed in that briefcase the first time he took a championship match and made it into a triple threat so does Seth try to pull off another heist on another bloodline family member against another unstoppable champion and do that triple threat and give us that moment at the two night summer slam that's fun i didn't love the um how we got there because i think the idea of rolling right back into jay uso climbing another mountain this moment to eventually get right like to me that just doesn't feel that appealing at this moment no it doesn't but throw that they love throwing accolades on Jey Uso.

45:37True. But at the same time, isn't there a world in which the match ends, the tag match, they wanted, so, but they ended up using, but the R-Truth spot didn't have to be... I'm trying to think if there was a way to do the R-Truth spot and have a cash in.

46:01Yeah. Yeah, that's true. honestly there was a way though right because R-Truth Speared Cena took him out Seth could have cashed in on Cena but then Seth's cashing on Cena again but we don't we assume the Cena title thing has a point right I don't know that I believe there's a point to the Gunther J thing how about that I don't know if I'm buying there I believe that John Cena's title reign has a long term arc The Jay Gunther thing feels more like an overall just we're building up two guys. Yeah. I mean, and I was going to say, sometimes that's the point, right? Because look, John Cena's in his retirement tour.

46:47So we see the end and this is to give him a great victory lap with some great matches and revisit some rivalries. It's a big nostalgia tour, but it's got to wrap up. So obviously in the immediate, the point with the John Cena thing becomes clear. At least what we think is going to happen is the person to end John Cena is going to get the rocket on their back, and that's the point. Could be Cody, could be somebody else, we don't know, but that's the point. And yeah, if the point on the Raw side is to build up these two guys and make that main event picture a little bit more clearer and stronger and give them both some depth, let's be honest, right?

47:27Right. Gunther and Jay, for as much as they love them, as much as we love them, they both have been victims of the same critique, which is that they just don't have that much depth. Right. That they have all of this mystique and then the bell rings and where's the depth. If they can do that for both these guys in one shot, one heel, one baby face and get it done. I'm OK with that.

47:53yeah i hear that that's fair if you think that at the end will really land there

48:03hopefully right they got to stick the landing and that's listen that is very true they have to stick the landing on this if that's the point but but you know building up two guys that they can rely on for the future at the top of the card i'm okay with that because the top of the card right now is is you know punk who can't have that many more years left cena's on his way out roman's winding down cody who knows what he's gonna be doing cody and seth it looks like they're gonna be there for a while but you know randy orton has got to be on his way out also so they're gonna need some some fresh bodies at the top of the card for for the long haul and build them up why not by the way speaking of uh cm punk are we allowed to uh borrow a phrase from the morning from my morning show when talking about cm punk at this moment in particular oh i'm gonna pull it up i'm gonna we are right i'm gonna pull it up i know exactly where you're going yeah i'm gonna pull it up right now so everyone can just congratulate him one time.

49:03Yeah, he deserves this. You know what I mean? Like, no matter how you feel about him, a lot of mixed feelings. He's a very controversial man, but no matter how you feel about him, I think it's at the very least fair that on this weekend, which we found out his next match will be against John Cena in Saudi Arabia, I think it's necessary. What I'm saying is like we're going to find that person. When we do find him, once we get them back i'm going to give them right back to them really say congratulations you played yourself it's been a while since i've heard the real thing

49:46by the way by the way it really is it's crazy because like congratulations you played yourself is such a big segment on my morning show now for so many years you forget about the fact that it really is a phrase that Khaled naturally just said. Yeah. Because you played yourself is a thing. That's been a thing in hip-hop for a long time. Big Daddy Kane. Yeah. Put a chord in you. Because you played yourself. That's been here. All-time great lyrics in the hip-hop history. But Khaled hit him with the congratulations. You played yourself. The congratulations is the cherry on top. What? she night night she night night hit it with the gts did i feed her did i feed her did it come take a look at the picture real quick because no i'm getting here because natalie's about to catch one too hold on shut you know what you it's such a good thing you have this queued up you know what natalie i'm glad i have this queued up right now because you brought this up so for asking me what you're asking me right now i'd like to share something with you what i'm saying is like we're gonna find that person yeah when we do find them once we get them back i'm gonna give them right back to them really say congratulations you played yourself don't ever ever in your life think that the baby wouldn't be she came on the show she co-hosted she got a diaper change she got a five ounces five five i mean i did five there's a little left but it was more than that It's five.

51:20And then, hold on, does that look? Look at the comfort of that sleep. Yeah. I shared the screen already. They saw. They know what I did. Yeah, we know. Daddy. Yeah, thank you. They didn't doubt me. Wow. Wow. Put it in the app, though. I didn't put it in the app yet. Did you put it in the app, though? Not yet. Not yet. Can you do that for me? How many times did she start her nap? What's going on? I don't know how to use that new app yet. Log in the nap. That's Dip's excuse. You can't run with that. What did I say? I don't know how to use the app. That does sound like Dip, right? All right, here it is.

51:59I'm on it now. I see how I do this. Okay. What time did I go feed her, SGG? About 1? Before that, I want to say... 12.45, maybe? Yeah, around that. Oh, because it was after Natalie left. Yeah, about 12.45. Let's do that. Boom! The nap is in. I mean, the food is in. How do I put the nap in, though? this just joins hard all right anyways we have other news we have to get to here besides my daughter's napping and food yeah the cm punk of it all the cm punk of it all we got to say congratulations you played yourself because you've said you've said a lot of things over the years my guy a lot of things and you know the the north remembers the north remembers and see that and And by the way, it's all good.

52:48No, it's all good. Welcome back. Yeah. But just, you know. And let's be honest, right? Let's be really honest. Once he came back to WWE, he was in line for about three or four of these congratulations, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Easily. What? The first one was right when he came back. oh this this this company's gonna be run by your doofus son-in-law oh dude the doofus son-in-law signed her back congratulations you played yourself signed her back you guys get along great according to triple h right congratulations what about the uh what about the uh four night buy one get one free insulting wrestlemania now we see you now we see you cry now we see you crying about main eventing night one.

53:43He said, I did it. He said, I did it. That's another one that was just waiting for him. That one was waiting for him. And now this one. Yeah, no, no. Listen, you're going to sit comfy. First class seat. Yeah. First class, baby. Big old I would take that back. I wish somebody would congratulate me with that one. I would take it. 100%. I would take it. But they didn't offer it to me. So now we got to congratulate you, Punk, on this one. So we will get that match though and it will be, listen, it's a lot of fun. We all want to see Punk Cena one more time. I'm going to ask the question though, which one of these?

54:23Because they had an opportunity this week, SGG, and they still do, to turn Cena killings into a real thing that has like true authentic legs. It's not just getting people together for a match. We have the opportunity sitting there, but I don't know if we're doing it. And I don't, and with Punk, same thing. Is it going to feel like Randy? Like we're just getting them together. We're just going to get that and we just got to get the match in. Or are we getting to like the story? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I would hope, I would hope that it's not just like Randy because again, I thought Randy was going to go on and continue.

55:07He's going to get some months out of this rivalry. we didn't Cody I hope is not at some point we gotta get a real feud with this it's gonna be Cody in the end it's gonna be Cody because the truth is Cody is in the spot to be the future what did I say? the truth is well done the truth is Cody is the one who is seen as the future with very good reason so it's gonna end up being Cody's story which I have no problem with I would argue what I love about the true thing is it's such a curveball. Yeah. Just the way the original Punk Cena thing felt like a curveball. I don't think it was, but it felt like one.

55:52Hey, just the way Cody's ascent at WrestleMania 40 was a curveball. Sometimes you got to pivot for the best. It's what's best for business. Sometimes you got to just say, all right, this wasn't in the plans, but this fell into our lap. By the way, I'm going to tell you one thing I wouldn't hate. I wouldn't hate R-Truth in the main event at Night of Champions, taking out CM Punk and getting the DQ, and then you just see him staring down like, nah, this is my, I'm getting this title. FCM Punk. He was gone. I've been here. It's my championship. I'll see you at SummerSlam. And look, it gives us an opportunity to get to that R-Truth versus Cody.

56:45He says he still owes him. He wants a win back, just one win back on R-Truth. Can you imagine how cool it would be? How cool would it be if when Cody eventually got to have that story with Truth, it was with Truth as like a serious guy? Can you imagine? It would be great. Truthfully, pun intended again. Yeah. This is what makes wrestling so special because there was no... Guys, there's a world in which I beat R-Truth for the 24-7 championship. Me, literally me. Literally me. Not a figurative me. I literally beat him for the championship. and you could fast forward five years and that guy is a serious threat for the world championship that can only happen in this incredible business and i just hope i just hope that we maybe we give the truth thing all it can potentially be worth yeah especially if he gets the world championship I would love to say that I shook the hand of the man that beat the world champion you know what I mean I become world champion at J's I think so it immediately makes you contender you dominated him in that match thank you by the way congratulations and welcome to Blake Monroe oh that's right Mariah May is here another thing that I basically guaranteed on the show if you recall SG when she blew up I was like that is a WWE star Mariah May she is going to be here I didn't know how soon but congratulations to Mariah May aka Blake Monroe now in NXT she's here people are looking forward to that too they look like it's going to be some special in NXT no she's dope man she's continued to do special things I should say yeah she's got a lot she she really does um i know i blew it last week well sg and i did get in another episode we just didn't make a patreon yeah we did we did hustle to get the preview episode done on friday though i hope people were able to enjoy that and that was a damn good that was a damn good did i mean come on people did you get a better money in the bank preview than the one we got from us we hit it and quit it it was we gave you we gave you everything you needed today's episode you got a full dipper lago birthday recap you got a breakdown of money in the bank we filled you in on everything important from raw we even hit a little nxt we mentioned mr iguana for christ's sake we talked to smoke disney and did some all in talk we got everything in here right now yeah i mean what are you doing what do you what do you want so anyways we'll be back on patreon patreon.com slash day mage um shout out to my co-host um let's see if she's ready to make her return.

59:46Maybe she wants to come back on and say goodbye. You know what I mean? Let's see if she's ready. Hold on. That go to sleep was effective, though. No. I think she's still out. That's more than three seconds, Dan, right there.

1:00:02Yeah. Oh, whoops. Sorry. I'm an idiot. I am an idiot. Damn it. All right. Stay mage and enjoy yourself.