Rosenberg and Delilah

0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy, guys.

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0:27it's cheap heat with peter rosenberg featuring stat guy greg and dip hi everyone how are you good grand welcome to cheap heat on this friday saturday sunday the weekend of december 5th 6th and 7th we are here for you i am in my new residence further uptown in New York City. Your physically large stack guy, Greg, is coming to you live from the office. He's in the office, but fatigued out like he's on the streets. SGG, I just walked up to 96. You could have been standing on the corner at 96 and Broadway with this fit. We talk in war games. I had to come with the fatigues, but the big question that I have is, is that a new couch?

1:17It's a great question, SGG. If you pay close attention, if you're a true Rosenberg mark, This couch should be familiar as this was the couch in the real late Juan Epp studio. That happens to fit perfectly in this little alcove in my new office. So I have the I have my desk over there and this is like my what are you making faces about? Because because this is so typical Rosenberg. OK, what did I do? Success. I'll tell you what you did. You're successful. you're rich buy a new couch now you're borrowing couches from old studios and make them you're measuring and taking old things that people have farted on your his sentiments not wrong his sentiments not wrong but your information's wrong this was natalie's couch she loves this expense this was a very expensive leather couch that she loves and was hoping not to get rid of we were down to sell it but they moved it here and we said hey put it in the office and it literally just happened to slide like Tetris right into the spot.

2:24So it's a beautiful, barely sat on leather couch. You want me to throw it in the garden? I'm so rich, Dip. I'm so rich that I should burn this couch that we sat on a combined 20 times to buy a new couch for the, hold on, for this temporary place that I'm going to live in for maximum a year and a half. That's not, come on. Who am I? It does sound like that. I'm telling you, because Dip is management, but he lives like a rapper. You would think he was like a member of Junior Mafia with the way that he wants to just throw, just get a new couch. No, I'm not getting a new couch. I don't even know if I'm using this couch.

3:00But in setting up the camera situation, this has been the most comfortable spot. First of all, it looks like pleather. Second of all, it's not. Natalie, dip is slandering your couch. Also, you think I would be in Junior Mafia and not the outlaws? I would be an outlaws guy, not junior mafia. I'm just letting you know. Okay? By the way, listen, you're not wrong. They're very similar, by the way. The outlaws are all from New Jersey. Junior mafia is all from Brooklyn. Then they move to New Jersey. They're very much the same. It's sort of like the Palestinians and the Israelis. Everybody's all the same.

3:38They don't even realize it. They're the same thing, the junior mafia and the outlaws. Oh, my God. Do you know that I met Lil Cease once? I didn't mean Lil C's It is spelled C's It is spelled C's I've never heard anyone do what Dipperstein just did though He went Lil C's I've only heard Lil C's Because that's his name But you met Lil C's Where was this? At a bar mitzvah I met him I swear to God I was DJing I used to DJ bar and bat mitzvahs It was the only, only job I've ever been fired from because I couldn't, I didn't know how to plug in the, this'll be a huge shocker to the audience. I didn't, I couldn't plug in the equipment fast enough or, or, or pack it.

4:29I didn't know I was good at, at the wires, at wrapping around the wires. Oh, the wires you had. I was a big wire guy at the time, but I was DJing a bar, a huge bar mitzvah in Philly. And somebody said Lil C's and his crew is outside. and I was a big Lil C's guy at the time. This is, you know, early 2000 or mid to 2004, 2003. Something must have happened then because he said he's outlaws now, not Junior Mofi. Yeah, so it did not go well? It was a fine interaction with Lil C's. You know, it wasn't the best. Did he say, you don't want to play around with me? Oh no, I'll kill you? No, he didn't. He didn't threaten me at all in any way.

5:08Did you say that to him as a way to endear yourself to him? No, he said, aren't you a member of the outlaws? And I said, no, I, you know, I pretended like I didn't know what he was talking about. And, you know, and then, you know, everything went smoothly. I went I went back to DJing and playing, you know, holla holla and my neck, my back and things like that at the time. This is about bread? No, Ja Rule. That was a bad that was a that was a dad, a Jewish dad joke from SGG. Yeah. So guys, we're going to get the wrestling. I did move this week. I have so many things to tell you, Dip, about moving.

5:51There are so many thoughts that I have. There's nothing. I have thoughts, too. Believe me. I have moving thoughts. I've moved 10 times. I got tons of moving thoughts. Well, hold on. You have done full adult moving now. What, three times? Yeah. Three times? I moved across the country that's one then I moved into that's a different move but the move across the country did you have anything everything what kind of question is that no when you first moved to LA weren't you like 23 what do you think I had just turned 22 the stick with the little pillowcase that's what I'm picturing the stick with the pillow yeah what did you bring you think I'm a stick with a pillowcase guy what am I 40 days 40 days and 40 nights the Red Sea But as you get older, there's no comparison.

6:42My early moves at that age, the only thing that made those moves hellish for me then was the records. No records really moved on this trip, thank the Lord. But we – and I just want to say it was a very privileged move. I worked with Roadway Moving. We're doing a social media thing. They did everything. We didn't touch a thing. Did you offer water immediately? You have to offer water immediately. I never offered water. Are you nuts? Oh, my God. You're half the man I thought you were. I know. I'm sorry. You didn't offer water? I didn't offer water. There are people carrying heavy things upstairs for you, and you didn't offer them water.

7:23Not a stair. Not a stair was used. Down hallways. Down long hallways. They were rolling down hallways, though. But I think I tipped very well, though. The tip is, I mean, forget it. That's separate than water, though. You don't get to. You're right. Listen, you're not wrong. It's like, you're not wrong. I should have said, hey, do you guys need water? A really good guy says order pizza. I didn't even order pizza. I wouldn't go that far. I've given Quest Bars to moving men. You've given Quest Bars. I've given out Quest Bars. It's like Halloween. I give out Quest Bars on Halloween. You know what?

7:54In all honesty, I was so like, the whole thing has been a complete mess and overwhelming. I should have offered water. But it wasn't very hot. No one was dying of thirst, I promise. If Dip really loved them, he would have offered coffee. cream of all let's be real yeah international delight but i here's the thing that i have to say in the modern day effort that these companies make and in new york you have a lot of competing companies people are moving constantly oh yeah in the constant effort to not break anything because they probably had one too many jews go you broke my remote you know they they now have to be so careful.

8:32They're filling boxes. You're opening a box. And in the box is endless paper in which you find three items buried among the paper. Now, there's a lot. Number one, if you saw the amount of boxes in this house right now. Are you paying per box? Are you paying per box? Well, that's part of it. You have to survey the company and say, do you overuse boxes? you're not offering water you're not you're not micromanaging the box usage you don't know what you don't know what you're doing you should have called me before he is really no maybe it's better that he held out yeah really no i mean i gotta tell you you're not really breaking news considering natalie and i have gone back and forth about whether we were going or staying six times in the last week i think you're not stepping into really uh risky territory suggests we don't know what the hell we're doing.

9:24This whole thing has been insane. But some of these boxes, man. And then what do you do with the paper? You've now got endless paper, endless boxes. You're cutting down the boxes. By the way, we're keeping some boxes. Her mom took like 30 boxes. I have them take the boxes. You tell them to break it down, and they take the boxes. What do you think? I want all the boxes. Then you have to pay for full unpacking. I didn't pay for full unpacking. No, I don't want anyone touching my underwear. So then how do you give them the boxes? You make them come get them? Those boxes, the clothes boxes, I never.

10:05The big. Oh, you mean like you mean like. Like you like you're like you're having them. Oh, OK. I see what you're saying. No, no, no, I get it. I get it. No, I never paid for unpacking. I unpack everything. So so so then you have to deal with the boxes. You're dealing with tons and tons of boxes. and because we know we're going to be moving again soon this is not a long-term thing i think the boxes are like four or five dollars a box if you get a hundred boxes that's 500 bucks you just spent on freaking boxes so and that's why you keep boxes so natalie's mom said no i'm cutting the good ones up i'll and i'm put flattening them and she taped them up and she put them in her my in my brother-in-law's car and she's bringing them to brooklyn and we move again And guess what?

10:50Boom. Out of the gate, we got boxes. We're not doing all new boxes. We're keeping boxes. Why are you still cutting corners like this? It's not. This wasn't my idea, okay? I have an Israeli Brooklyn mother-in-law. She's keeping the boxes. She didn't want to hear anything. It's an environmental angle, too. That's true, too. I do feel disgusting about the amount of paper. And make them produce new boxes for the next new box. By the way, by the way. By the way, air quotes, recycling. Yeah. Drop me into the ocean. You know how I feel about recycling. You know what I say about recycling. It's nonsense.

11:29No. My line about recycling, when people ask me if I recycle. I don't remember. Go ahead. I had a Prius for three years. I did my time. You did it. That's it. You put in the work. I did my time. I had the Prius. I did it. No, listen. We're not keeping every box confirmed, but some boxes need to be kept. It's a whole thing. I'm opening a box in the box. There's one bobble head and a computer mouse and it's filled with paper. Otherwise, I don't get me started on the liquor. By the way, the bobble head. Let me tell you something. I have moved bobble heads. Bobble heads are a major risk factor of being broken or stretched.

12:04So they don't bobble anymore. If you want the same bobble before and after a move, you got to throw the paper in there. I got to defend. I got to defend the bobble head packing. No, you're not wrong. It's better. You can't just throw paper. You got to wrap it. It's very specific wrapping the bobbleheads. And then, you know, the real box that blew my mind? Natalie has champagne flutes. Oh, yeah. You should have seen the box around the champagne flutes. I mean, a gigantic box with nothing but paper. And then you go on an Easter egg hunt to find the flutes buried in the middle of the paper. Oh, I can't believe I'm going to do this again whenever I do this again.

12:45But either way, these are all first world problems. Super happy. We have a roof over our head. The baby's sleeping. The dog is not like losing his mind. He's a 15-year-old dog. I was worried he's going to be bumping into walls. He's fine. He's wandering around the place pitter-pattering nonstop. Everything's good. Made it back from Survivor Series. I survived another, you know, Braun Breaker moment. I don't know if you guys saw my Instagram stories. but Bron Breaker took the liberty of writing a very not nice word on my notes. You know, I take assiduous notes. The note takes is out of control.

13:20One of us is going to have to fight him, and I nominate Dipp. If you can't get past him, then I'll call one of the members. But then I'll be the final boss after everybody weakens him. Fair enough. The reason why Bron Breaker wrote Loser on your paper, on your notes, is because he used to be a moving guy. And he knows that you don't offer them water. He knows you don't offer moving people water. That's what he did before he was a wrestler. I'm very disappointed. That means dip sold you out because where would he get that intel? There's not that many degrees of separation at all. The moving people community is very small.

13:58And they all – they talk. They talk. it was listen it was um i'm disappointed i'm disappointed that i didn't offer the water i i had a whole thing i can't believe this should you get sandwiches should you get pizza and then you ended up with nothing well he spent so much time discussing that he didn't have time to make a decision at the end i i can't believe who i i i thought i knew this man i one of the i one of the people i know the best i thought you know people in this town and i don't offer a bit of water i hope these people probably hate my guts and these people you're sick you're a sicko no this this disturbing things happened this weekend and and also disturbing things happened uh at survivor series war games a lot has been said there's i'm very curious to get your guys takes i've been i've been so removed from everything this week that i don't actually know what everyone is saying except a few people.

14:54I had a live show this week on Tuesday and multiple people came up to me to talk-ish about War Games. They were not happy with the match. The War Games matches themselves. People had a lot to say about this. I got phone calls. Ridiculous. So, all right. Well, listen, we're going to hear what Dip and SGG's takes are because I truthfully don't know what either of them thinks. And then we'll talk to you as well. 877-344-4893. If you want to weigh in on anything from the week, including War Games, we know we're late to that, including the John Cena tournament finals. And, of course, Cena's final match now just a week and a day away or a week away.

15:31It's all on the table. 877-344-4893. My bad mover etiquette. That's there for you. Did you guys see the picture that I met Drake in L.A.? I did see that picture. I'm jealous. No. Missed it. You didn't see I met little Drake. oh yes yes i'm thinking drake you thought you thought he is drake no that this is drake from la the other drake ain't going to la i true yes sorry this this drake this drake is still good in la no i'm just kidding but uh lovely kid uh it was great to meet him i was walking out of the war games cage and i walk out and who's standing there he goes it's drake from la and i went oh my god look at this kid and i gotta tell you he's a pretty cool kid i didn't see the picture where how did i miss this i'm gonna drake will you repost it yeah i gotta find the picture it was it was on i reposted it on uh cheap heat's instagram but i gotta see if drake sent it to to me so i'm gonna look for the picture from drake from la great kid we're gonna talk to you guys next we got two hours of wrestling talk here now that the move talk is done and don't get me started dip on the price of the bagels they're in my new neighborhood there's a very established popular manhattan bagel restaurant don't worry dip no they don't sell any um tire uh armor all they don't sell any lighter fluid okay can i can i get can i get a sesame bagel and a pack of zins they don't sell Zins.

17:06They sell nothing but bagels and accoutrement. And let me tell you, yesterday I paid. I got three bagels. Nothing on them. We had cream cheese at home. Two sesames. Two sesames and an egg. Plain nothing. Then I got two quarter pound. You know, the quarter pound's not even a real size. It's three bites. It's three bites. A quarter pound is nothing. I don't even want to see a quarter pound of anything. I got two quarter pound, one little quarter pound of egg salad, one little quarter pound of tuna salad, and three bagels. It was$21. Yeah. No, it doesn't make sense. That's the problem. Do not accept it.

17:49It does not make sense. Bagels did not become$4 items with nothing on them. That is ridiculous. That is not tariffs. That's not COVID. That is these businesses just saw the prices are going up and were ripping people off. That's not their rent going up. I don't want to hear it. People saw the opportunity to raise prices, and they've gone crazy. Crazy. I live in Los Angeles. I'm eating$42 hamburgers, okay, at restaurants. Yeah, L.A. is crazy. Dip and I went to a random restaurant the other day in San Diego, okay? San Diego, not L.A., not New York. San Diego. And what did I tell you the wings were?

18:29They were like$21? The wings. A what? Appetizer wings on the menu were$21. $21. I was like crazy 21 for an order. Were they 26? No, they weren't 20 because 26 means we're a fancy restaurant. When you go 26, that means you're like a foofy place. You go, of course, it's 26. Same reason. Like yesterday, I was looking at a restaurant in New York and they have some sushi on the menu, even though they're not a sushi place. And they have a Manhattan roll that I thought sounded great. Sounds like me. It sounds like my. I like that. It had it had. I think it was salmon, cream cheese and caviar. Fantastic.

19:05This sounds great. I want to try it. 26 for the role. That's, you know what I'm saying. Anyways, we'll talk to you guys not about roles and not about prices, but about wrestling next right here on Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Introducing Chauvin Musk Actives from the creators of America's Most Preferred Musk, a complete line of aftershades and deodorants for the man on the go. Chauvin Musk Actives for every day. Welcome back to Cheap Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. and if you're listening on Sirius, then you heard the music we came back from.

19:36If you're listening to the podcast, you didn't. But it was the instrumental for Minds Playing Tricks On Me by Ghetto Boys. It's very hard for me to place where that song is in the lexicon because it is so iconic. You're not going to say it's the greatest rap song ever made, but it is so mage in my life. Dip, does Minds Playing Tricks On Me have a role in your life? No. You don't even know it? no he has to know it i don't know i mean i need to hear maybe a little bit more of it no no no you don't it would you know what it'd be like that would be like hearing the opening of john cena's song and be like oh i'm not familiar where does the song go i'm an i'm an outlaw what do i know that's a good point you're not law as you can now you you don't mind playing tricks on me you're 10 years younger than me also but what role does it occupy in your life i remember it playing constantly on the box and i don't know if people even know the box but it was like a cable music video jukebox that people would order videos on and so definitely could be bought off a lot of a lot of funny business happened with record labels in the box for sure oh yeah i'm i'm sure because we would see the same videos play over and over and that was one of them that was like a that was a big hit on the box which meant that it was a big hit what year were you born 85 85.

20:58Oh, yeah. So, like, you were seven, eight years old, and it was on all the, or six, seven years old, and it was on all the time. All the time. That song was an absolute monster in D.C., like, just an absolute monster of a song. So great. Greg and I were both signed to death row back in the day. Is that true? Yeah. by the way so he was music gaps is such a funny conversation like why just because like you not knowing that song is so i know i know the ghetto boys i just i wouldn't i wouldn't be able to name one of their songs exactly but and by the way i'm not saying this with judgment like you're you're young you're from philly you're i there are all these reasons why it wouldn't be a big part of your life but it's like it's me and ballard my friend ballard uh we have this all the time because He has cool friends who get him into underground stuff, and he'll reference an album to me and be like, oh, I love whatever album.

21:52And then I reference something that's a thousand times more mainstream than that, and he's like, I have no idea what that is. My hip-hop journey, I mean, you know that my hip-hop journey started in 1998. Like, Ja Rule, like, you know, the first rap song I think I ever really loved was like, Can I Get It, you know? That's a good entry point. and like that Eve album 98 is a Eve's first album is incredible it does not get talked about enough I never listened to the whole Eve album the Rough Riders album like that was my shit back in the day I mean listen I hear you they used to call me Jewpuck is that true when you ran with the outlaw yes when I ran with the outlaws SGG are tied now with bad Jewish dad jokes SGG had the holla holla bread joke dip chiming in with the jupac we are by the way if we were at the synagogue tonight these jokes would be ove like rove dude i was ready to go back to the hollow hollow to what he said ja rule was his entry point yeah oh yeah i was waiting there for you uh 877 if you want to get down with the show 877-344-4893 but dip i was telling you that i saw a lot of criticism online and in person with people not like not in love with the show and you had thoughts on this well i was there i will tell you i see all these reports online saying that their people were like booing okay i i don't care what i was there i stayed way after it was over no one booed there was maybe like wow there was like a wow i can't believe this ended clean but who doesn't like a survivor series match that ends clean we love when matches end like it's there was a definitive end to that match.

23:36I love it. Cleaner Jace. I mean, you know me, I'm one night. Cleaner Jace. Well, but somebody, yes, but then there was a clean pin, Braun Breaker, one, two, three. So, you know, I thought it was pretty violent. I love the masked man situation. And I would say that the crowd was electric for the entire show. I'm so sick of the internet nonsense. I really am. It felt like for me that the crowd was electric during the show. not to make it a Thunderdome thing but that's why you don't really need to pay too much attention to the crowd booed or the crowd did this because I thought it was a good show and I'm just not going to let people's opinion on what the crowd thought take me out of it so here's the most misleading thing that I saw on the internet the most misleading thing I saw was the tear down of EO's spot off the top of the cage.

24:31They show it from the crowd and they show the girls lining up to catch her and they're like, look how bad this is. This is so stupid. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. First of all, no one in the crowd reacted that way. They were all watching her prepare with the trash can. They were not staring at the girls lining up to catch her. And by the way, the spot is mostly for television where they never showed anyone doing any of that. So this whole thing of like, oh, look how bad this is. Look how bad this is. It was much ado about nothing. Listen, was it the greatest War Games matches of all time? I don't know.

25:15I mean, I thought they were solid. I thought they were fun. Do you have the right to complain about the men's match ending with sort of a masked person coming in and then all the stuff you saw happen kind of went irrelevant to some degree i understand complaining about that i see why you'd be like yeah not my kind of booking i that's not what i was looking for but it was something they're doing something oh go ahead i'll say this too just about the crowd and everything when they started the eating because i saw a lot of complaints about jay running it back mid-match and doing the yeet and everybody dancing and all that to me, that was brilliant misdirection because you don't have the shark cages.

25:56When every other person came out, there was a countdown and the crowd was counting down to see who would come out next. Them yeeting takes you out completely out of remembering that Brock is on his way. And when Brock's music cuts through and all the baby faces have like this, oh shit moment, including Jay, who's at the top of the cage, losing his mind. I thought that was perfect misdirection because if they're in the shark cages and you see Brock is waiting to come out, then that moment doesn't really feel the same way. And Brock's entrance doesn't feel like the big bad is on his way because you're just counting down to it and everybody's ready for it.

26:34Yeah. I mean, I don't think they, I think they just did that basically to pop the, pop the crowd, but obviously, but like, I agree with you, Greg. I agree. I agree with what you said generally but um the shark cages didn't bother me i thought they were going to bother me it didn't bother me that they weren't there in fact the the um the pop when each person came out i mean it was enormous and like a rumble too it felt like a rumble well how about this counting down and it killed time got a man it killed time that they needed killed because the start of the match takes too long when they jump out of the shark cage.

27:12That minute entrance killed time to get to the next thing because I think that whole beginning part of the war games match is too long. Sorry. Continue. I was just going to say everyone got a huge pop. Everyone Alexa Bliss, Kyrie Sane you know, people who you wouldn't even think would get the biggest pop got massive pops. So while we're heaping some praise I don't know if others have said it, so I'm going to say it right now. That That was the best night of Bronson Reed's career. He walked through the curtain looking like the most serious, intense, scary version of Bronson Reed we've ever seen.

27:51He immediately goes tsunami crazy. He came in. He showed up. He kicked ass at the post show, the way he carried himself. Something. He found something. Bronson Reed found a switch at Survivor Series War Games. You think so? I really do. I think we are going to see a new version of Bronson Reed moving forward. He figured out how to turn it up one level, in my opinion. What's going to be interesting is how they separate eventually Bron Breaker and Bronson Reed. Because I think Bronson Reed, for now, I could be convinced otherwise, only works as a heel. Given his aesthetic and the moveset and everything he does.

28:35So, you know, he has some babyface move stuff. like what? I think the tsunami could be a baby face move thing. If you know, even though your army is a heel finish because I get it. He doesn't leap. He just like slants off of and hits. I hear what you're saying, but you can't picture a world in which he's a more fun loving guy. It puts a little more air on that thing. And it's a thing that people love and cheer for. I don't know if you're saying air on it. I think Ron breaker is the one that turns into the baby face eventually because he's so mage. I think Bronson Reed's mage too I'm a huge fan as you know but like I just feel like I just think Bronson Reed's personality can work as a good guy I really do I don't know and I'll add I'll add to that like the thing that makes him scary is his agility and who doesn't love like an agile quick baby face that like gives you like a fast-paced match I think he can both of them have that and they can both turn that on if they become baby face but I just think from Bronson it might be more shocking and it might add more to him than it would to braun another another awesome thing though about the vision i just got to say this i love that we are seeing logan paul do something interesting involving other people agreed yeah yes logan paul we've heard that he's a great wrestler now he's really a wrestler you're part of something with other people he's listening to Heyman, even though they wouldn't question about they wouldn't answer my question on the post show about is he going to be a Paul Heyman guy?

30:12The fact that he's lining up with other people, guys, to me gives me this really warm and fuzzy feeling of he's not this outsider who's there doing everything on his own. He's now part of something. I'm thrilled to see this step with Logan Paul. I think he's going to go to a different level now than he was before. I saw them disrespect you and your generalistic integrity by refusing to answer the question. Something's got to stop. They cannot be allowed to do this every week. We need answers to WWE Universe. But I think with respect to this question, Logan Paul is clearly a member of the division.

30:48And I think that undeniably makes him a Paul Heyman guy at this point. I don't know. I don't think he is. I think they haven't decided yet if Logan Paul is a member of the division. That's the real thing is they didn't have an answer, I think, because they don't know but they introduced on monday they introduced the vision and he comes out with it it wasn't the vision and logan paul it wasn't logan paul and the vision it wasn't logan paul came out as logan paul they all came out together and by the way how about this and logan paul comes out to braun breaker's music like i also like that logan is kind of sucking it up a little bit and having to play with everybody and he's under braun breaker at this moment am i are we wrong Is that he is?

31:28No, yes, that's something is like that. That to me is an interesting turn. Go ahead. I mean, so many people are speculating that Austin Theory is the masked man. I have no idea who it is. I will tell you, like at this point, given that it's everyone thinks it's Austin Theory, I would hope they maybe call an audible and it becomes somebody else. So first of all, I don't believe that you don't know. We all saw we all saw the photos of you by the bus. we saw who you were powering we all saw it all so we know that we know that it was you under the mask the main thing that tells me that it was you under the mask do you think Dip could climb a fence like that?

32:10I think Dip with the right training we know he has access to the best training I think he could get in and out of a cage like that and also the way they shot that they obscured the person's height they made that person look like Andre the Giant with those camera shots of like going low and then the broad shoulders do you see how broad the shoulders were padding i don't know dip is a hollywood guy he has access to the best the best cgi's and makeups and all of this it's a great take by you now real quick it's not my best theory but i think it's dip now real quick uh here is the audio i'm told we have it of of me attempting to get an answer from paul hayman on the uh survivor series post show is logan paul and paul hayman is this a full-time thing?

32:54Is this where we're going in the future? Is this a Paul Heyman guy? That's a very interesting question. I don't know who the masked man was. That's a different question. I'm sorry? That was a separate question about who the masked man was. And was that Seth Rollins? What's your question? Is the Logan Paul-Paul Heyman relationship a permanent business relationship moving forward? That's a very interesting question. I don't know who the masked man was. By the way, if David Shoemaker, a.k.a. the Masked Man, doesn't take advantage of that drop, that's a mistake. Let's talk to you, the people. That's true, by the way.

33:31I didn't even think about that. That's all I think about. Also, guys, we have to talk about the Liv Morgan return. Not only how it played out on Survivor Series, but what the ramifications were on Monday where she was all over the program. And we haven't even said word one yet about John Cena. I don't know how either of you felt about this, although I will give you guys a little bit of a teaser as we move forward. I don't want to go full Dipperstein, okay? But I will say this John Cena losing to every young person, it doesn't feel great in the moment, man. Every time the hand hits the three count, I'm like, oh.

34:16It's a very weird feeling. I really enjoyed the match. And I got to tell you guys, did all of you buy the Mysterio injury spot in the match or no? I did. I did right first. My immediate reaction was, yeah, like, damn, he went down. And this is not good. Like, couldn't be a worse time. Like, why? I know. Voice cracking pain in my heart. The craziest thing about wrestling is, man, I'm watching with me, Big E, and Tess. Joe Testor, we always watch the main event together to prepare for the post-show. That's cute. We sit on each other's laps the whole night. Does Big E sing songs, tell stories? And we all completely bought it.

35:10And I was the first one out. because when I saw Raquel and Roxanne run over to him, and I'm like, oh, if this was a shoot injury, I don't know that the first thing that would have happen is his two tag team partners would be hovering over him to check on him. No. I think it would be, and then I really, and then. The camera would be off him too. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. To your point, the fact that we've seen all that, that's what I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, and then Tess was like, that's not the real medical people. I was like, oh, okay, I think we're good. But what an awesome swerve that was in that spot.

35:46And then Raquel gets to hit her stuff on Cena, which made her look like a million bucks. I thought the match itself was as fun and cool as you could have possibly hoped for. But as I was saying before the break guys, I just can't help but feel every time I see the ref count three, like, damn, he lost again. I just feel bummed out about it. Let me say something about Dominic. Because I think that this is the slowest, most successful simmer of any major star, like emerging star ever. And not to jump to Raw this past Monday, but in this promo with the Judgment Day on Raw and whatever Seg it was in the middle of the show, he felt like to me truly for the first time like an a-list gigantic main eventer who matters in at the highest level this was the first time i really felt the feels with him he he he you know people weren't booing him he said oh we're not doing that anymore or whatever but just his physical stature and the way he presented himself and the way that he spoke on the mic Like there was like 10 % more confidence and it just made all the difference.

37:09And it just made skyrocketed him in my eyes. He's on another level now. I agree. And I think the key to it, like you said, is I don't know if it's a newfound confidence or if it's just always been there. And I was just like, he just doesn't care what people think. He just has that belief in himself, that self-confidence. But I think, I think that's what it is, that it's the confidence exuding off him. And it really is a night and day difference from the Dominic Mysterio that we saw, you know, debut against Seth Rollins. Of course. Kid that got thrown out of the ring by Roman Reigns. Like, like short hair Dom.

37:45I, I knew he was going to be good. I didn't see this. I was very skeptical at the very, very beginning. But he felt like, it's so funny. He felt taller on, on Raw. You know, you, you have JD's a short guy or whatever. But Finn Balor always has like a big presence. Yeah. Dom felt taller than all of them. I mean, he is. Like, you know, maybe he is physically, but he always felt like sort of in the background, like an accessory. Now he feels like the head of the Judgment Day. Yeah, he has a star quality that, you know. Something changed. It factor. I want to say it was the shades, but when he takes the shades off, it's still there.

38:26You know what I mean? It was the hair. First of all, it was also the dry hair. His hair felt bigger. It didn't feel wet and attached to his head. I don't know. There was little things. The outfits. Speaking of hair, I maybe should have led the show with this. I think there's a chance John Cena has convinced me to one day do the plugs. You're out of your mind. Yeah. You're a bald man. You're famously bald. We need to take calls on this. It's over. It's over. How do you know? What if he changed everything for me? I'm sure it should be Jadakiss and you can't just know no I this is it would be such a joke with you all of a sudden with a rug on your head a rug it wouldn't be all of a sudden at first it would just be that it looks more you know my baldies more filled in right oh my god and then over time there's a little more this is not an option and then one day I have like lush he's joking he's Greg he's joking Hold on.

39:26How dare you? How dare you someone with hair have the right to tell me without hair? It's funny. Me and Big E were talking about this, and Tess goes, oh, come on, guys. This is ridiculous. And we both went, excuse me. Excuse me, Tess. Excuse me. You have no right to weigh in here. This is beyond your depth, sir. You have a full head of hair. You have nothing to worry about. You don't get to tell us the afflicted whether we should consider. The hair community. He's not telling you whether you should commit. Exactly, Dip. The hair community, they know. We're not welcoming you back. The hair community does not want you.

40:04I don't. Stick with the bald community. Stop being bald phobic, P. I'm just saying, what if it was great? Why do I have it? It's not going to be great. Why? You are past it. You are not balding. You're bald. It's over. I gotta say too the pics of you with hair this was always your home P if you want to hold on real quick that was SGG's point was right dips was not dips you're not balding you're bald is incorrect if you look at where I actually have hair I am a perfect candidate to redo this I have hair all here I have the spot here and I'm back a little bit in the front I am the perfect candidate No, no, you know nothing.

40:48You know nothing about this. You have hair. Shut up. You don't understand. You don't know. SGG is right. My hair look was always bad, but I have a chance to rewrite history. No, you don't. It's over. History is never repeating itself in this capacity. It's done. If you do this, you're nuts. You're crazy. You've lost your mind. John Cena has opened a portal, and I want to consider it. John Cena had a bold spot. Your entire head is a cue ball. By the way, you don't. This shows, SGG, this shows how little he knows about bald. You don't. My head's a cue ball? Wait until Sunday. If you wait until Sunday, I will have hair.

41:31Everywhere. Except the spot. I don't want to see this. Don't FaceTime me. I don't want to see. I am basically the same as Cena was. I just gave up earlier. Cena fought it until he was 45. De-loo-loo. SGG, can you at least explain to him that he may not know what fully bald means. I will accept that. Because also, like, do you have an Oakland? You're saying that if you had the mean gene, you are definitely out. There's no way. If you had the Larry David, it's over. But why? Those are guys who could have fixed it. They could have had hair. Larry David would be sick hearing this conversation to his stomach.

42:08I want to... By the way, Larry David hates wrestling. I love Larry David. He is completely separate from our wrestling talk and conversation. Okay? Not everything the man says is factual. He hates professional wrestling. That is a glaring flaw. Maybe his bald takes her bad too. I don't want to hear that. I want to skip over that. I want to look. Oh, what's this on the top of my head? It's all hair. Oh, what's this? It's hair. Oh, what's this? It's all hair. What's that? Oh, I'm bald. No hair comes in. Bald, bald, bald. You son of a bitch. AI exists. there's a million apps that can see what you look like with a full head of hair.

42:47And I think you should go and figure and see what it looks like. I want some options. Give me a whole sheet of options of what this could look like. Different styles. Look at the man behind me in the poster. Oh, my God. If someone had gotten to Terry early enough. Someone should have, by the way. It could have changed everything, guys. He might have been a different person completely. If someone had gotten to him and said, hey, we don't have to just have the hair around the side, Terry. You don't have to just wear a wig. We can do something for you. And John Cena pulled me aside. John Cena pulled me aside.

43:22He said, this can be done. He said, do you want it? He said, let me take a look at what's going on up there. And he looked and he went, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you'd be a great candidate for it. Oh, yeah. And let me tell you. I don't care what John Cena told you. His hair looks great. I'm going to talk to John Cena about this. You know what, Dip? You can't see that I have hair in my future. Oh, my God. I can see the future with your hair, and you're done. You're through in the stem. Maybe that's what's the next step. I want to go from Evolve to Monday Night Raw. Maybe I need hair. Michael Cole, hair.

44:07Joe Tessitore, hair. Hair. Vic Joseph. Hair. Beautiful hair. Beautiful hair on Vic Joseph. I don't know if I'd say it's beautiful hair. It's hair. Corey Graves hair. Corey Graves has a nice head of hair. No question about it. If you're putting yourself in this category, I'll see you in Turkey. Now, I'd say the best hair of all the announcers is Tessitore or Graves. I'd say has the best hair going. Yeah. Cole is just completely put together His suits are gorgeous He looks fantastic I'll tell you the truth I cannot picture what my hair What hairdo would I possibly have It's too Just for being out of the game For so long you have too many options On the table That right there I don't like that You know what, Dip?

45:01I don't like that you decide my limitations as a person That's the part I don't like you go oh you can't do it you can't i save you from yourself constantly now now you make me now you make me want to do it now i want to do it now i might i might go start putting the money away right now just to show you getting like a man bond ask ask 100 people you know if it's a good idea and see what the percentages of people that think it's a good idea but you're being unimaginative you see me every day and you go well i have a great imagination one of the best imaginations everyone knows it it's not just me saying it everybody's saying it no i have a great imagination.

45:35You don't have imagination. You're just seeing me every day. Oh, so you must be bald. Let's not act like my bald brand is so great. I'm confused with 19 other people, okay? My bald brand, I've even added glasses to it. I've got the glasses. I've got the bald. I've got the beard. Hey, Sam Roberts. Hey, Sean Evans. Hey, we got to get to whatever, Ebro. Hey, Ebro. We'll get to scam. We'll get to scam. Robert's callers stick around the phone lines are jammed up we're going to talk to all of you next at the top of the hour dip derailed me by shutting down my dreams of being a man with hair ebro in the morning 877-344-4893 it's the sam roberts ebro sean evie back it's you promotional consideration paid for by the following i'm cy sprilling president of hair club for men and these are just a few of the men who called our toll-free number for our booklet about thinning hair.

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47:18And remember, I'm not only the haircut president, but I'm also a client. I don't want to go full dipperstein, okay? but I will say this John Cena losing to every young person. It doesn't feel great in the moment, man. Every time the hand hits the three count, I'm like, oh, it's a very weird feeling. There is some good news, though, if you don't like John Cena losing to young talent. The finals of the tournament is set. It's LA Knight and Gunther, so there's potential for him to lose to some older guys, too, on his way out because his last match is going to be Gunther but isn't it crazy and we can get into this on the other side but isn't it crazy guys that like everyone predicted it was going to be Gunther like that came out months ago and now that you have LA Knight there there's no question it's Gunther I don't know what level I would call the upset of LA Knight over Gunther but gigantic and I don't mean because LA Knight can't be taken seriously as a wrestler.

48:27Obviously, he's beaten a lot of good people, but it just seems like this whole thing has been about passing the torch. To your point, SGG, I know Gunther's in his late 30s. Yeah. John Cena's going to pass the torch to like a 41-year-old LA Knight? 43. No, 43? 43. In my mind, it was not a foregone conclusion that these finals were going to beat LA Knight and Gunther. It was not. Let me tell you what should be. LA Knight being there was not a foregone conclusion. Let me tell you what should be happening. John Cena should be – this last match should be for the title. Cena should be winning the title.

49:01He should be vacating the title. And the Elimination Chamber should be for the championship. That is what should be happening. John Cena deserves to – they put the guy over. Gunther doesn't need to be put over. He's mage. That's why I think it's LA Knight because he needs this more than anything. It's not going to be LA Knight. It's Gunther. It's going to be Gunther. I mean, it could be LA Knight. I mean, LA Knight. I mean, look, I've come around on LA Knight to some degree. I think so. I have one degree is what it looks like. I've come around because because he I don't know. I respect at this point how the crowd reaction that he evokes for this length of time.

49:43So I respect him in that way. And and and I see him in a different eye than I see him slightly higher. in my eyes than I used to see him. But I think it's going to be Gunther. But he doesn't need to put over either of these guys. They're both major wrestlers. If he was putting over Javon Evans, I would say, okay, you know, maybe that's something. But at the end of the day, Gunther doesn't need to be put over. And Cena should not be losing to Gunther. He should be winning a big match. He should go out with the title and then vacate the title. That's how I feel. Yeah, you've always said that. It's always been stupid.

50:17Him winning the title in his last match is the dumbest Rocky bullshit. I've ever heard. What are you even saying? Rocky, very popular movie. I love the movie. It's a great movie. I don't hate him. I want him to win the final match. I like it. The idea of it being a big match. I think the title thing, like, why set your title up to then have to be vacated? I just don't think it needs it. Him beating anyone would be really cool. And to your point, I think the point you make is excellent though. If he's going to do the honors for someone else, Carmelo Hayes, Javon Evans, Someone who's going to like truly change because of it.

50:55Right. What does this do for Gunther? Gets him. It gets him into a program with someone who interferes in the match. Maybe it would just be fun if they do something crazy, like just something really neat. I need to. I know. I know. I know. I mean, I need less. I need one thing next week. I need one storyline interesting thing that makes everyone go oh my god I how could they not do that we need it well the fact is they did it once in the scene of story so far this year they just weren't able to yeah so they're not afraid to pull the trigger on something completely mage like that so I'm hoping that we get something else next week and if LA Knight is the guy then then he's the guy and i'll say this too la night in the vision is not that far-fetched when you consider like logan paul was getting bullied by the vision just before he joined and bronson reed got recruited for the vision by kicking set's ass last year not all last year but a good amount of last year so the fact that la night had a little friction with the vision i don't think that that crosses him off there.

52:09Although, although like the leader of the vision is clearly is Bron Breaker right now. So then all of a sudden it's like, what do you put him back in the background? No, the whole point of the, with Seth getting injured, the whole thing is now Ron Breaker has come into this a list. You know, he's come into the main events picture. And so you, you know, what are they going to do? Put him to like, put him to the side. The person who is in that mask needs to be somebody who's going to be in the background of Bron Breaker. and that that you know it wouldn't make sense for la night to be that guy so although there are two world championships out there so i mean can the vision just go like full industry takeover and braun goes after one and then somebody else goes after the other one i don't know if they'll do that no i don't know but that's what i need to go so did you how did you guys feel uh and we're going to take a break and talk to the people more how did you guys feel about Braun's promo on Monday because you could argue it was very good at getting another mouthpiece for the vision between Paul Hayes and he can speak.

53:13Logan can talk. Even Bronson can talk. I don't think they need someone else who can talk in the vision. I got to tell you, just in the way that the Dominic promo elevated him, I thought that this promo elevated Braun Breaker also into, you know, there was not really any flubs. He didn't feel like an amateur out there. It didn't feel like he was trying too hard. He said a couple of offensive things that landed in a major way. And I think it elevated Braun Breaker to where he needs to be. Yeah, I thought it was Braun's best promo. Yeah, by far. But I don't think it was like his Austin 316 or like his pipe bomb.

53:48No, no, no. I also don't think it needed to be. I think it did what it needed to do in terms of getting Braun to that next level and making it feel like, look, CM Punk better watch his ass. because this guy, he's running him down. And when this dog catches CM Punk, it's not going to be fun. And they have the date set. It's in New York, which is going to be in front of a hot crowd in Brooklyn, January 5th, live on Netflix. That date, Braun, I guarantee you, he has that circled on his calendar. And it's going to be a problem. And that promo on Monday has everybody anticipating it, even though it's a month away.

54:32Yeah. I mean, all of a sudden... You guys heard that John Cena was advertised for that show? Yeah, I heard... I'm not. For which show? Sure. For the first Raw of the year. No, no, no. Sorry. Raw after... Cena was advertised for the Raw after WrestleMania. Where was he advertised? He was a local Vegas ad. Is that right, SGG? That is right. But apparently that ad is it's going to be one year old by the time that Raw rolls around. So that was referring to the Raw after this year's WrestleMania that had just passed in Las Vegas. And so it was wrong using it. So, yes, that wrong. I don't know, man.

55:13I'm holding out for I'm holding out for Batista. I'm holding out for Rocky. I'm holding out for others. I mean, I mean, Batista would be something plus. I mean, not that he's wrestling, but like something, you know, Even if he comes out and gives him a hug. I just hope. Nah, you can't just give him a hug though. Hugs got to come with a kick in the nuts this year. Every hug has come with a kick in the nuts. So if Batista just hugs him, I don't want to see it. I want to see the hug kicking in the nuts. Batista is going to come out with a fedora. Yeah, a Louis Vuitton sweater. Yeah, yeah. It will be interesting though.

55:53Let's take a break, but we should speculate on that. It's a week away. are they going to do some sort of big ceremony? I mean, listen, they have PLE time. This isn't on NBC. They can do whatever they want. So it's going to be interesting to think about how that plays out. We also have more phone calls from you guys at 877-344-4893 as we roll on on Cheap Heat, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. The Wiz, it's the cool way to head back to school. It's a backpack and more. The Wiz is your personal locker that holds everything and keeps you organized. In hot colors and wild prints, the Wiz gets your stuff together in style.

56:30So get the Wiz. Excuse me. I'm coughing after my delicious sweet green salad. Sometimes, man, you ever have one of those days that sweet green or just salad when it just really hits? I don't like sweet greens. You said salad. No. I'm not a sweet green guy. What's your problem with sweet green? It's never enough. I don't know. It's never good enough. I'm always creating my own thing. I always create. I create. I created it, but it's very good, the one I had. I don't think I've ever ordered. If there's an option to create anywhere, I create. I don't look up. I'm not looking up. Oh, Chopped has some good ones.

57:07Chopped? We don't have Chopped. We don't have Chopped. The Chopped. Next time you're here, the Chopped Mexican Caesar Slammin'. I like a Mexican Caesar. I like a Mexican Caesar. I'm big on Mexican Caesar. Really? Because you know what it is? I try to create my own Mexican Caesar. It's Caesar with jalapeno. What do you mean? There's corn probably. Maybe corn. There's crunchies. Maybe crunchies. SGG, you don't do just salad, sweet green or chopped? No. So what is your death plan that you're on right now? How soon do you think you can make this happen? I think probably like 60. What is he trying to do?

57:50Kill himself. Kill himself. He got another 20 years. Are you trying to lose weight? No, no. The fact that he's never eaten at sweet green chopped. Like, listen, if you eat at sweet green chopped or just salad, all it's saying is you're doing the least thing you can do. Like, oh, come sometimes I go get a salad. Is it just salad or is there other things? It's just salad. By the way, no, no. There's nothing else? They've got a couple other things. Of course they do. I think they've got some chips. Just salad at J's. They've got spinach. They have armor all for the tires. Yeah, Zins. Zins. Oh, by the way, everyone, you'll be happy to know I tried a Zin in San Diego.

58:42Speaking of trying to kill yourself, I tried a Zin, kids. This is a message for the children out there. I thought, oh, this is a good idea. I've heard people like this new way of taking nicotine. Let me give it a shot. I tried it. Dip threw on Survivor Series 1989, and I immediately vomited. Is that a fact? This is a fact. Dip, how surprised were you when I came out and said I had just vomited? I have never, like, instant... I had to be sick to vomit. I've never vomited after putting something in my mouth before. You said immediately. I need to dig into it. I mean, it was five minutes. He threw up after five minutes.

59:23No, five minutes after the – I put this in my mouth. I sat there. I went, okay. I don't really understand the point of this. And then I have this thing when I get nauseous, SGG, of like before I realize I'm nauseous, I just kind of start hating everything. I'm like, ugh, I don't even want to watch this match. Let's watch something else. This is stupid. Ugh, I'm not in the mood for this. and then I stood up and I went to the bathroom. And when I went to the bathroom, I went, oh, I know what has to happen. Did you make yourself vomit or did you – you felt like the vomit just came up? You start to feel – it's a mental – oh, I think I'm sick.

1:00:07And then what happens in my brain is I go, oh, I know I'm nauseous. And then it's like I think there's this thing that happens where I go, I'm not going to feel okay until I throw up. What? And then it happens. And let me tell you, I'm not a good vomiter. It is very hard. I've never done that before. What do you think it says about you, though, that as your body goes through the mental slash physical process of protecting you, that the first line of defense was hate. You started hating everything, and then you got the nausea, and then it was the purge. Why was hate first? hate could have easily been the last step after you go through the other it's a very you know it's a very deep question you're asking sgg i i don't know i maybe it's the ultimate sign that hate is poison and when and when the other poison entered the body it immediately connects with the hate and it starts coming because why would i ever hate Survivor Series 89.

1:01:13It's one of the greatest events of all time. Dipperstein puts it next to Super Bowl I. Way past Super Bowl I. The crowning of Queen Elizabeth. She was a hack. JFK's body laying in state. All of these moments in history. Survivor Series 89. And there's no reason I shouldn't have been able to enjoy it. And so it's a good question. But the point is, kids, Zin is stupid. It's completely useless. You're putting a miniature teabag in your mouth. And then you throw it. It's so gross. It is so gross. All of a sudden, if someone has one, I'm like, I wonder what this one tastes like. And I'll put it in for a minute.

1:01:56I mean, it does feel crazy. It's gross. It is gross. I can't believe you don't get sick. It does make you dizzy. I can't believe I tried it, to be honest with you. I'm such a wuss. but it's I have tried it a couple times but I have friends that are sticking sixes and nines all over the place let me ask you a question do you even really know what zins are it's like that lip pillow right I don't think any black people are doing zins what are your thoughts I don't think so either is that true SGG speaking on behalf of all black people you're saying no I'm saying no interesting I wasn't at the last meeting I abstained from it was Survivor Series you couldn't make the meeting but I'm saying no yeah I don't think I think it's a very white boy kind of thing it's a schmageggy white boy thing I'm sensing now speaking of schmageggy white boys John Cena went on with Bill Simmons and and I quote this is interesting The plan originally was to do a full year.

1:03:10This goes to show my ignorance of the business. I wanted to do 220 dates. Just take the year off from everything, hop on a bus, do a full WWE calendar, and totally say goodbye. Thank goodness the business isn't like that anymore. I'd be done. They only needed me for 36. now I had already been told this that he offered them everything and they were like no we don't need it we're good

1:03:45I would have enjoyed more than 36 yeah I think there's a happy medium between 36 and 220 52 weeks out of the year that's 52 Mondays and Fridays but we probably do like 48 we'll call it 40 and then you got the PLEs and then you got the Saturday Night's Main events 52 so like 52 basically 52 dates for the year I say 65 or 66 right because you got to even throw them on some non-televised joints some live events so let's do a few of those okay 66 36 and then half of them went to the heel run that people and I guarantee you it was not a money issue I guarantee you it wasn't that He needed so much money for 220 That they didn't afford it I bet they just thought it didn't make sense Yeah I bet that as well And also even when you think about like When they talk about oh this person had this many matches A year like the number For most matches in the year Has gone down that I don't even know Like Did they do 220 dates That one person could have been on all the shows like and i don't even know if that's a thing yeah i don't know um but it is i gotta tell you man i watched i saw john as i said i saw him the other day and i was in the hallway when he walked through the curtain after his match and i shook his hand and it is surreal to think that the end is here you know and it's and he said to you you could have hair and he said well no it was a lot much longer than that it was a very detailed long car it was in the barber's chair exit actually ironically it was a very long conversation but you know it's just it's surreal that it's happening and that we're here um and frankly it's surreal for me that i get to witness it and be a part of things firsthand because it truly was hearing john cena's music and and seeing who he was in oh five that made me want to like fall in love with wrestling again it's funny because he's never been my favorite guy he's never been my number one but he is the influence behind me really falling in love again well i have to ask though too when when you saw john cena i have two questions one did you invite him to cheap heat to come to say goodbye to the the cheap heat universe and and if not you know did you also at least let him know that on december 8th at 5 p.m pro wrestling nation 24 7 this channel right here that i listen to is running uh john cena says goodbye special and he can say goodbye to if not cheap heat and come and say goodbye to us that we will be honoring him in our own way before his last match it doesn't know no it's a great question by you an even better plug um i'm very impressed by what you've just done i appreciate that uh but But I'm sad that he doesn't know.

1:06:41But I will say this. If anyone is getting invited to do a long-form conversation on this program, that man is Joseph Anouye, a.k.a. the tribal chief, Roman Reigns. Because Roman Reigns, the other day... You don't want to keep that moment sacred? Do we keep it sacred anymore? I don't know about this moment. I don't know about it. Keep it sacred. I at least need to know about this moment. I'll just, okay, I'll keep, I'm going to keep the moment sacred. I'm going to keep the moment sacred. I was hoping you would keep it sacred, yeah. I'm going to keep the moment sacred, but I will say this. Roman Reigns loves wrestling.

1:07:25He thinks it's great. He thinks it's great. He has terrific taste in content. And I don't think we've spoken to Roman since, what was it, SG? It was the greatest moment of your life. What was it, 2020? It was. It was the pandemic. It was over Zoom. It was right after he became the universal champion. Very early in the incredible, game-changing, one-of-a-kind, greatest of all time. My opinion, easily, far and away, the best championship run of any person to ever hold a championship in any form of sport at any level. right after he won that title he came to cheap heat talked to us and then just went on to become and show everybody that he was who he said he was which is the greatest of all time i always knew it but now we have incontrovertible proof that i gotta steal that there's nobody better than roman reigns by the way amelio i need you to rip that interview from hot 97 i guess i was feeling very generous at the time and we put that on hot 97's youtube channel to give hot 97 Kevin the rub.

1:08:34We need to rip that and put that classic. Yeah, we need that back. That's ours again. Sorry. That's got to go on Rosenberg Wrestling. By the way, talk about the time you go back and look at it. What a moment in time it is. The look of the zoom was different. Like we hadn't even all gotten our zoom ish together yet. I look like I was zooming in from a cave. My zoom look like hostage footage. What was it? What year was the date of release. I'm looking at it right now. It's always hard to find the date on these YouTube videos. Oh, here it is. July 1st 2021. Oh, so he had already been on a nice run.

1:09:19I feel like we were still pretty early here. I don't think many people have talked to him yet. I'm kind of ready for him to be just the guy again. Yeah, enough is enough. I'll say this. Oh, SGG. Yeah, you are a pulse. No question. Yeah, it's, you know, maybe animate me and put like a nice, like clean that up. Greg, did you, yeah, had you achieved enough accomplishments to receive all the fake diplomas? No, he has only one. At that point, he has only one fake diploma on the wall. Yeah, I still had them, but the only one was on the wall. What the hell is that? Is that a gavel on one of them? I see a gavel.

1:09:55Of course. That was an award. That was an award. An award? That one I bought this year. That was, yeah, if you paid attention. No, I was given. I was given an award. What's the award? What's the award? Sorry, Dip. Not everyone. It could be 35 under 35 Hollywood reporters. There are other awards. There are other Focaccia Industries that give out Focaccia awards. Some people serve their community and get awards for offering pro bono services. There you go. You hear that? Underserved residents of the Philadelphia area. So you hear that? Give me a favor. arrest whoever says they're going to put hair on Peter Rosenberg's head.

1:10:33Don't represent that person. Wait, by the way, is that the storyline you want to see on Saturday Night Tonight Event? Cena arrested for advising me to get hair? That would be arranged. That would be mage. But yes, I want to also, SGG, to isolate that moment in time of the Roman interview, I'm wearing a tie-dye Black Lives Matter shirt that I bought on 125th Street. Okay? I'm laughing at the shirt, not the words on the shirt. Not the concept. but the time it's the moment in time. But I really, we do, we are overdue for a long sit down. That, that should be in person. I'll go wherever it is. I, we know you will.

1:11:09I should do. You'll go to, you'll go to his family's home. You'll go to Samoa. You'll go to Hawaii. You'll go to do it at my house. If, if you want, I would love to serve a travel feast. I would serve a child. I would serve a travel feast. Let me tell you, I would love a Samoa tour from Roman rent. How major would that be? I mean that's he might need a tour too I don't know I don't know if he's giving tours but either way I feel like he could give a tour you think he could give a tour I trust him to give the tour so no matter how you cut it we would love to have we're overdue for another sit down with Roman Reigns and I couldn't agree with you more Dip when he walked through and I said it on the post show there's no one more mage than him no he's the most mage he is somehow this period he's the top guy this period in which he's kind of been removed and like taken away just doing less dates well taken away from the biggest storylines for a moment he had a moment where he was taken it has served to when his music hits and he walks out the aura is one of the greatest auras in the history of wrestling this aura and his no one looks like more of a pro wrestler he is he is the best version of what a pro wrestler can look like You know what I mean?

1:12:28And by the way, it's the polar opposite of what Jericho is going to look like when he walks through the door. No, Jericho better stay his ass. Let me tell you. We should take – And also, welcome to the club, fellas. I've been waiting for you all to join me. It's been quite a while. We're here now. I'm glad the whole team is together on this. I'll tell you what we should do. We should take – We should shave Roman Reigns' hair and give it to Peter Rosenberg. All right. On that note, I didn't even get a chance to talk about it. But I was disappointed to see Nikki lose and then not be on TV this week.

1:13:02We'll see what happens with Nikki Bella. You know, by the way, who wants to take the devil's kiss on the frigging table? That just cannot feel great. I can't imagine the slamming of the knees on the table. Oh, it's a nightmare. That's what John Cena said to you when he said you should have hair. It was the devil's kiss. That's what he was giving you. You know what? Actually, I'll be honest. John and I, we did not talk about Nikki Bella. in that conversation. I'll be honest. We kept it to hair, and we kept it to general conversation, okay? Guys, it has been a pleasure. Of course, if you're not subscribed to Cheap Heat on wherever podcasts are found, do that.

1:13:38Rosenberg Wrestling on YouTube, and follow Cheap Heat Pod on Instagram. We have fun there as well. Shouts to Kelly and Susumu for holding it down. Have a wonderful weekend, and stay mage, everyone. Mm-hmm. Stay mage.