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0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to SGG.

0:09The Majestic. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The King of Kings. 24 seconds. A thousand percent confirmed. M-Mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. M-M-M-M-M-M-Mage.

0:34It's still rooted. Mail.

0:54It's still rooted. Sweet, sweet Peter Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was Rapport. It's professional wrestling.

1:12It's Jeep Heat with Peter Rosenberg featuring Stat Guy Greg and Dip. And for another week. Oh, let me mute myself. for another week it will be gp with peter rosenberg with stat guy greg full stop because we have been dipped again dip has dipped ladies and gentlemen out he dipped out um have you talked to dip uh sgg you're in la have you talked to dip dip is not in la i don't know if i can say where he is or what he's doing oh well that that thing is not in la is it in vegas it's in san diego it's in san diego other thing is in vegas but this thing is in san diego so he's not in la now have the people that he's there with posted anything about this event are you not seeing anything i i'm not seeing anything that's why i'm being very vague about it and i don't know if they mentioned it on this show because you know i think she did so now we're just going she we're not going there we're going she i think she did i think she mentioned it anyways let me just let me just say this um first of all welcome to cheap heat live pro wrestling nation 24 7 this is the second to last episode before wrestlemania 42 in las vegas i'm your forever 24 7 champion peter rosenberg i am here at the wwe performance center where i'm taping evolve tonight uh sgg is in los angeles where he is the physically vacationing i i we're going to get to a lot of different things are you going to see dip on this trip i don't think i am because he's he's in is that the 619 is that the that is the 619 to you and me now he's in the 619 yeah so i i'm gonna i'm gonna check we check her instagram and see if she's posted anything i wonder if she's posted but let me just say this about dip dip is going to pretend over the next week like he's doing a lot of different things sg the reality is i think dip is basically going to be a barista for the next week that's what i'm calling him yeah i mean he is on coffee duty in a big way over the next week so i don't listen i don't think i have either of you with me next week sgg is not going to vegas next week um dip is going to be in vegas but he is going to be living to his barista duties quite a bit next week i am working on with the powers that be at wwe to put together a big big uh show for us and apparently kelly is saying in our chat that it has been posted that Seth and Becky are in San Diego.

4:09That is apparently out there. All right. So that is where Dipperstein is. Listen, one day, will there be a storyline where Rosenberg goes to war with Seth and Becky because they've stolen his manager? Perhaps. Perhaps that storyline. Fans love a good reality-based storyline. Yeah. Listen, who knows? Who knows? And by the way, who knows what era this happens in? SGG, maybe it's years from now, and it's Rosenberg and MJF versus Seth and Becky. We don't know. But anyway, so I know Seth and Becky have a lot of stuff going on at World next week. So Dip is going to be very busy next week with all the things he has going on.

4:54Next Friday, we will be doing the show. Here's what I know, folks, about WrestleMania. I know that Wrestlemania Friday I will be on first take I don't know exactly what I'm doing but I'll be on ESPN they have a set at WWE World I will be at first take then I'm going to bust my ass over to the hotel where we are going to have a setup Kelly are you going to be there yes sir I will be there with wow so you you who else who are the big who are the big production um impresarios that are needed to make the pro wrestling nation situation function in las vegas who's going like susumu is needed i feel like susumu gotta be on that i think they my prediction my prediction is susumu is being kept in the um serious confines let's find out kelly who is actually making the trip susumu is so important that we need him on the back end to ensure that That all of our happenings in Las Vegas are being broadcast properly on our air from the New York end.

5:58But out in Vegas will be myself, Principal, Paul Ehrlich, Big Boss Man, Eddie Borsilli, and then A.J. Batista, who is Sam Roberts' producer. And Ben Queen didn't get, Ben Queen not going to Vegas? Ben Queen, again, very vital to what goes on in New York. And the healthinator wasn't even considered. I mean, that wasn't even a conversation. Zach's been crying about it for weeks. so so kelly is going to be out there and from what i understand it sounds like they're putting together kind of they're kind of back to doing a little bit of a radio room it feels like at wrestlemania this year so now that means i am personally charging kelly eddie paul and the powers that be to make sure that the pro wrestling nation 24 7 setup looks the most mage of everything in the radio room.

6:50Like Kelly, we have to dominate. We can't get, we have to show that this is the pinnacle of pro wrestling talk in the country. Do you guys have a plan of how this is going to come together? We have a plan. We always make ourselves stand out amongst the mutants. Okay. We don't want to stand out. We want to stand above. Stand out and above. Thank you. I get there Wednesday. I have 48 hours to make us look fantastic. There you go. So all I know is I've heard a couple of the names that I'm pretty sure I'm having. I'm working on one super big name for the show. So I'm hustling. I'm hustling right now to put it all together, but I will be SGG-less and I will be dipless on that day.

7:39But fortunately, Kel Bell is going to be there to hold it down. I will not be completely on my own. so SGG hopefully you will tap in one way or the other during the show but we'll see how that day unfolds it's going to be interesting go ahead that's when you do your best work on my own that's when you do your best work well I'm not being held back is what you're saying something like that well listen the fact of the matter is dip dip saying he's not going to be that show doesn't matter he's never it's so funny because dip back in the day for people who've been on the long-term cheap heat podcast journey um they remember dip only appeared on wrestlemania shows yeah he was our wrestlemania run-in yes weapon he was so dip would show up and be a part of those interviews he would be kind of quiet and awkward and this is before Dip's favorite thing about Cheap Heat was Dip this was before he would, like this one I think he would listen to the show not just to hear himself but to actually hear the show and now it's funny because now with interviews Dip's not really a part of them so listen, it's all going down, we're very excited for next week, shout out to Emilio who was hitting us yesterday you know as he should be like hey let's put together the plan let's make sure it's special you know and thank you to everyone at Pro Wrestling Nation to Eddie and everyone for having this spot for us and the location for us to do it it's going to be really cool I do enjoy I'm not going to lie I do enjoy the big energy of Mania Weekend and I do like showing people what time it is because listen there are a lot of people who create content when it comes to pro wrestling there's only one pro wrestling nation 24 7 okay and the fact of the matter is this no one told me to go on a promo a run today for the channel i listened to this channel i don't know if you're like this sgg entirely too much like when i get in the car most days i listen to everyone like at one point i hear robin denise i hear coach and bishop i hear mark i hear i hear tommy you know tommy dreamer and his incredible wrestling insight mixed with his very low-key demeanor where I heard him after the pipe bomb on Monday and you wouldn't know if the greatest moment in wrestling history happened or if literally they just it was just a blank screen for three hours he does not go up or down either direction you talk about no selling you know I mean it's crazy because Tommy in the ring the man could sell his personality in life though I don't know when you shake Tommy's hand if he thinks you're the greatest person on earth or he wants you dead there is no I don't know how to tell the difference but they did a great job breaking that down so I just got to tell you guys if you happen to be listening to the podcast and you are not a listener of the channel your significant other who if they're not into wrestling may not love you for it but your life will be more fun if you have Sirius in the car or you listen on the app because on a week like this where so much stuff is happening I was excited to listen last weekend excited to hear what a bully would have to say on Monday and Tuesday just so much stuff so SGG we have not talked since Friday on in an official capacity we sat on these airwaves and we're going to open the phone lines all damn day because guys if you want to talk to us today's kind of the day because next Friday we're going to be very busy with the interviews and live from Vegas, etc.

11:35So the phone lines are open all day. 877-344-4893 for any of the huge pressing subjects. Preferably if you haven't gotten a chance this week to get your thoughts off on everything that's happened, we'd love to have you join us here. And I did just hear SGG, we are going to have a guest pop in. And I'm confident that today, unlike last time, it will actually happen. um she i just reached out to her um she is uh she just announced this past week that she is headed to nxt and she has never done our show the former evolved champion on the verge of stardom at nxt callie armstrong is going to come visit with us later on sgg i know you're a fan um i'm looking forward to this so we're gonna sit and talk to callie armstrong i've really never gotten to chat with her you know outside of uh you know some quick hey how's life so excited to talk to callie armstrong um she's gonna come in at one o 'clock so we're gonna talk to callie then for a little bit so sgg we sat here all day and talked about who it could be who was the who was the the man or woman on the phone going to be could it be shane mcmahon could it be vince mcmahon Could it be Jake the Snake Roberts?

12:54Could it be Dustin Rhodes? Could it be Cowboy Bob Orton? Could it be Ric Flair? I didn't hear one person on this planet say, what if it's Pat McAfee? And I just want to go into the mind of SGG. Take me through your thought process on Friday night, what it played out. Yeah, listen, I think I'm going to just echo what a lot of people said worst worst play worst play on the planet Pat McAfee let's like I know it's Wrestlemania and I'm not the guy to say celebrities shouldn't be involved in Wrestlemania I feel like celebrities made Wrestlemania right as much as much as it was though you know Hogan and Piper that was driven by the rock and wrestling connection with cindy lauper and even though she wasn't really in the main event like that mr t main evented the first wrestlemania celebrities have always been a part of it so i have no problem with that but i think you know as close as they were to the show and with as much of the history that there was with cody and randy that they looked like they were tapping into i felt like the person had to play into that multi-generational ness and then for it to be let's face it an outsider because that's how he came to the business pat mcphee you know he didn't go through it and he's not a multi-generational champion he was a fan who got famous and came in and they they made a spot for him and he's been performing well in those spots but i feel like this spot as the person next to randy to say look we need to save professional wrestling our lifeblood this business that gave us so much they had so many options so many options could have been dustin it could have been hell it could have been roman reigns it could have been another samoan that we weren't even thinking about could have been could have been uh his dad could have been a another mcmahon could have been one of shane's sons could have been one of steph's daughters could have been anybody and it would have made more sense than pat mcafee now so i had i had every thought that you had um i i went through a series a range of emotions between Friday and Saturday.

15:35I mean, I'll put it this way. It was a strong enough feeling that I spent 10 minutes on the phone with Dave LaGreca Saturday morning. We were on the phone. Me and the big man had to get on the line and chat through it. There was a lot going on. um it was very very strange um first of all you know listen you guys know we've said it on the show i was always a cody should turn guy we've had this argument for weeks it wasn't cody it was randy i kept saying all right they're gonna boo they're gonna boo uh they're gonna boo cody all right cool fine no part of me when when the when the storyline started developing of there's someone on the phone i thought it was going to be a cute little fun add into the story like some fun little piece of nostalgia no part of me thought that they were essentially going to completely reshape the story between Cody and Randy because when it turned out to be Pat based on everything he said and now that you see the poster he's on the poster it says with Pat McAfee did anybody think they were bailing on the story this is a 20 as as Cody said this story is 20 years old we're gonna go out and have a wrestling match we're two guys with a 20 year story listen was I in love with every bit of how they'd gotten there SGG no I don't think any of us were in love with it but it at the end of it we all agreed CM Punk and Roman is the main main of Wrestlemania and this Cody Randy thing is gonna be an awesome first night matchup that's it that's it we're good like no one needed it to be turned on its head and when Pat showed up that's what happened it was completely turned on its head however since then a lot has changed and I'm curious to find out if SGG's feelings have changed at all since Monday as angry as you were about the McAfee booking on Friday.

18:04How can we not admit that if the goal was to get people talking and to create interest, can we argue against that it's worked given what happened on Monday night and the amount of sort of conversation and excitement now that CM, now that Cody, first of all, I don't want to sleep on Cody's response promo to McAfee. Right. Because he brought it, and I loved seeing Cody turn up that way. And then Punk takes it to another level on Monday. So is any part of you feeling any better about it? Like, no, no, I was worked, bro. They wanted Pat to be a bad guy. It worked. I'm angry. I want to see him get beat up.

18:49I'm sick of his face. I'm now more invested. Did any of it work for you in that regard? No, I'm not any more invested in what was going on. And that's the thing, right? Pat, yes. In terms of people being angry at him and focusing our energy on him and being upset, yes, it's there. but did either main event really need a bump from pat mcafee i would argue no you know and let's be real this is that time of the year where a lot of what they do especially with these big matches these little twists and turns and these breadcrumbs that they drop not that pat was a breadcrumb that was like a bomb it's like a loaf what yeah but they work they work let's be real especially when this relates to the world title matches these things they they usually work guys so you know i'm not i'm not gonna give pat too much credit for for him dropping in at the right exact right moment of the year where these things sort of hit and they give us that little boost of interest going into wrestlemania because it's a week from saturday you know what i mean right so when he showed up, it was two weeks from Saturday.

20:07He popped in at the exact right time to become the biggest name in wrestling. It's just, for me, neither one of these stories needed that. And CM Punk needed it less because your match don't even have anything to do with Pat McAfee. So we can talk about the pipe bomb too. And I think that that, for me, it was like the McAfee stuff got the biggest crowd response again over your match with Roman which also has not 20 years of history but it was pretty close it's probably like 12 13 14 years of history and now both the year matches are overshadowed by Pat McAfee and then the invisible hand that people keep referring to as his agent and you know they haven't called him yeah they haven't said it by name but it's like the this everybody's boss Ari, who they're really not going to be able to do much.

21:04Now, I want to push back, though. I've been disagreeing with you on this all week. I do think that some of Punk's lines about the Roman story got off well on Monday. I heard the crowd react to a few. I did. I heard, you know, the crappy football player line. There were – oh, he called Vince – you were just – You ate dog food from a creepy old man or whatever the line was. A weird old man. That's the one thing I'm going to push back on you. Actually, I'm going to push back to you in a couple of ways. You know what? I completely disagree with you. Let me not. What are we doing? That's what the people want.

21:45Yeah, what is this? Well, first of all, I think the stuff with Roman worked. I think that was an effective. When I didn't know he was going to go to Pat, I already thought Punk delivered an effective promo. And you know, we've been talking about this. And you know we acknowledge our tribal chief. I'm not a man fan like SGG, but I do really love Roman. Step your game up, Pete. I know. I love him and I respect him quite a bit. I'm not like these weirdos, SGG and O'Shea, who post videos crying in the car after he loses magic. I'm not sleeping in Roman Reigns sheets when I go to bed. It's not that level, but I certainly admire the man.

22:29I think Punk has been winning the battle on the microphone I think that Roman's opportunity to strike back will be to win the match physically in the ring I don't mean literally with a 1-2-3 but I mean in terms of performance I think that's what Roman has the chance to really win with so I think Punk delivered I thought it was another good night for Punk I think, listen, I didn't care that much I'm not Dip who's going to stream about the story for Punk and Roman it's CM Punk and Roman Reigns it's one of the biggest stars of one era against the biggest star of the next era like I don't really need a major story I just want to see the moment the pageantry I want to hear a cult of personality and Roman's theme I'm here for it but when Punk then went to the next level and make no mistake about it CM Punk obviously it was known he was going to do something okay I mean they handed him a microphone okay it was known he was going to do something just like in 2011 it was known he was going to do something the question is how much SGG did they know he was going to do that is what I have been breaking down all week and here's where I landed and I firmly believe I can't get in trouble for this at least i do at least i hope punk because you said it on television fingers crossed as i sit in the performance center um okay sgg sgg crossed his fingers and on zoom weird balloons went up i don't it happened it didn't happen for me um there is no world in which someone said to him hey can you call him pat mcgafee that didn't happen like that was unquestionably cm punk just doing CM Punk things.

24:24And also, I've heard people try to say they don't see it this way. I don't think anyone said he should mention the ticket prices. I'm sorry. I think that's been something that's been whispered about for a while and in some places yelled about, and CM Punk said it on television. I don't believe that was planned. I don't see who that benefits. you know except the fans if you view it that way because here's the beauty about CM Punk he's done it again this is why CM Punk you can you can hate CM Punk for the reasons that people who hate CM Punk hate CM Punk okay that's fine SGG he is 1000 % the most compelling oh my god what's he going to say promo of the modern era and maybe of all time in terms of and even if it's only sgg because of these two moments you know even if it's well and if you include of course like yeah and and you can include the press conference in aw of course as well right like even the things that are unscripted the interview moments like you add it all up there's been a lot but because of these two pipe bombs we could spend the rest of the show with you guys calling and saying who else has ever done anything like it to that level to like stop the wrestling world on its access level you kind of have to give punk his flowers this is what he does and he did it well so the reason i i'm getting off topic here because i'm and i apologize i was super excited by it because it was one of those moments Once again, when no matter how close you are to the business, you don't know if it's real.

26:13You don't know where the lines are. I agree with you, SGG. It wasn't about his match with Roman Reigns. And ultimately, he's not the one with the receipt. I hear you. I hear you. And it is. I do wonder how Cody felt about it. like Cody got up there on Friday and did this like what felt like a kind of I thought really compelling but rushed and frantic response punk has the whole weekend comes out Monday surprises everyone with it and took a lot of the gusto and they both mentioned a receipt for Pat McAfee but neither but but only one of them can give that receipt and that's Cody Rhodes so that that part I hear the argument on but from the standpoint of just man entertain me on a Monday bro I have 93 jobs I've been kind of under the weather all week I just moved we're getting set up with my baby stuff in the new apartment everyone has life going on entertain me for two hours cm punk delivered in an epic way there's there's like there's really no way around that part of it you know what i'm saying yeah but what i will say though is this right i gotta push back on it being called the pipe bomb too because when he came out there right the first he says roman reigns you said why you hate me i'm gonna tell you why i hate you and he got some lines off.

27:54I'm not going to say that he didn't. It was bars after bars after bars. It really was. But A, I don't feel like the crowd, it hit with the crowd as much as those bars should have. But then B, those weren't really reasons to hate somebody for me. You know what I mean? That wasn't real hate. It just was like you came from a good family and you had these opportunities and now you're on top and you think you're so good, but you didn't really have to work for it because your family had your back and i hate that and it's like you you sound like such a roman fan no no yo hold on your reasoning sound more like jealousy than like this real bitter ether that he doesn't respect you are you are hearing he doesn't open the doors for him and he doesn't respect you that's that's the meat that's on the bone that he left you are seeing this through ooze colored lenses my friend let me let me i let you fit let me finish now on top of that when he finally got into the ticket sales and the pat magafee of it all his hatred for roman took the bronze medal to the other stuff that he said and it's like on the one hand it was a still a fire promo but on the other hand it didn't do much to sell the match but here's where i say it doesn't matter because like you said you have roman raids and you have CM Punk, even without all the beef and the history and the Colt Cabana podcast and Punk coming back and all of that.

29:26The match was sold when Roman Reigns said, I'm going to pick you because I hate you. And then Punk said, well, that's where you fucked up because I'm going to bury you next to your father. That's it. Everything else is accoutrements. That's what I'm saying. Do I hate that Roman, the Roman bit of it got the bronze medal and was pushed to the side? Yes. But why? But SGG, that's the beauty of CM Punk. Because that's the match. No, no. That's the match we want right there. But no, because Punk knows fans are smart. And he knows that we all know Punk and Roman is a wrestling match. But what he was saying in the other part, that wasn't a wrestling match.

30:10That was stuff CM Punk really feels. And listen, this is complicated stuff. we gotta get it in wrestling form though like yes i understand he really feels that he went out and he vented and he said what a lot of the fans were thinking but when a wrestler does that on tv i'm expecting the bell to eventually ring and when the bell rings it's going to be about roman hey how about this ticket sales and the mcafee then that goes by the wayside what if what if what if on saturday night when it's all said and done and the odds aren't even if cm punk stands there with Cody Rhodes and then what if we get to Sunday night and when things get crazy with the oozes Cody Rhodes is right there with CM Punk we don't know maybe they do end up coming into play as lipo gang as you once said as she'd be but hold on we'll continue this week you said it last week we're going to continue this um in a little bit Callie Armstrong's going to join us in a moment and at 1 o 'clock we'll talk to you.

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32:06Welcome back to Cheap Heat with your forever 24-7 champ, Peter Rosenberg.

32:16Well, listen, welcome back to Cheap Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Ben, I appreciate you, the Who's That Girl, although the song is probably 20 years older than the guest herself. And maybe we should have gone West Coast. But listen, I respect the effort either way. Inglewood's own the next and newest star of NXT the former Evolve Women's Champion Callie Armstrong Callie how are you? Oh yeah I'm doing great thank you so much I'm feeling amazing First of all Callie, SGG, SGG the great Callie Armstrong Now I was just saying before you got here I was just saying earlier I was going to have you earlier I wanted to initially when Evolve was first started and then O'Shea Jackson reached out and said that they booked you so I ended up having Kendall on the show because you guys were clearly two breakout stars from the beginning but it's been a treat to watch this whole thing evolve tell us about your wrestling origin story how did we get here to the WWE Performance Center?

33:21First of all I'd just like to say I'm so sorry to hear that you had to have Kendall Gray on your podcast Listen she did the best she could I'm sure that was a dread but here we are now but my wrestling origin story is totally random honestly like i was a professional track and field runner eventually that stopped i was working in the workforce nine to five for a few months maybe up to a year and i was really just feeling like dang i really love that athletic aspect what was the nine to five though i was a marketing specialist at torrance transit so like metro bus station okay Totally random. Okay.

34:02Just a random job you got to pay the bills. To pay the bills. Yep. And I'm good friends with rapper Wale. And at that time, he was doing like Wale Mania and stuff. So anytime I'd like post for track and field or just being charismatic, he'd hit me up like, Hey, man, like, you're beautiful. You have this charisma. You have the physique. I really think that you'd be a good WWE wrestler. And when you first hear it the first time, you're like, what? Like, that's not something you could be like. So I just kind of brushed it off. I laughed it off. Were you watching at all? And you weren't watching at all?

34:31No, I used to watch when I was younger, but obviously once I got older, I stopped watching. So that was just something that was totally out of the blue. I wasn't aware of any storylines or anything. So then I kept on posting and just doing what I do, and he hit me up like two or three more times. And after that second or third one, I was like, okay, let me really look into this. So I started looking into it. I started watching wrestling. I started seeing their NIL deals and things that they were doing with current athletes. And I was like, wow, so they're really big on, like, athletes at this time.

34:59So I reached out to a recruiter. They got me into a tryout. And that was all she wrote. That is really random. And, you know, I just want to – Wale is the most random. Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say, SGG. I really want to express my giving Wale, who's a good friend of mine also, the weirdo of the year award for not telling me this story ever. He hasn't even hit me up. Like, we have not discussed this. That is so crazy. I think it's funny because when I was going through the tryout and stuff, I was like, you know, you know all these people like help me a little bit. He's like, no, whatever you do, whatever you get, I want it to be 100 percent you.

35:38If you get the tryout, if you get to make it to WWE, I want it to be solely because you and your talents. He didn't want to have any influence. But I'm like, I'm in there now. Now you can help me. He's like, no, I would have at least mentioned like, I don't know. I would have found a way to mention a commentary. I would have been like, well, you know, Callie Armstrong and I have a good friend in common. Wow, that's so interesting. Well, listen, what a great eye, though, because it has really been pretty natural for you. What's been the hardest thing physically? Let's start with the physical part.

36:11Like, was there anything to adjust to, you know, physically or did your track and field career really prepare you well for it? Like, this is a really unique performance and athletic art. what what have you found challenging about that the physical aspect of it I think the physical aspect as a whole has been the most challenging like I come from a track and field background I stay in my lane you stay in your lane we not mixing and merging so once I came here we started fighting we started bumping and my body just wasn't used to it I'm used to like I say staying in my lane so now I'm being physical I'm being hit I'm being dropped and thrown and punched my body was like going into shock like i'm sore all the time i got aches i got this i got that um but as i continued to do it i feel like my body just started to harden and mold to get used to it so now i'm definitely adjusting much better but initially it was definitely just being physical because i definitely wasn't used to that did the did the initial back bumps make you feel like oh hell no sorry i just want to get that like those first bumps were you like ah i was like who falls on purpose.

37:14I'm purposely just falling. Like, how do you even do that good? Like, none of it was making sense, you know? Right, right. So first I had to make it make sense. And then I had to learn how to do it well. So it was all just crazy for me. Like, I was like, what did I get myself into? All right, SGG, go ahead. Sorry about that. Yeah, I want to ask you too about the track and field background, because I'm glad you brought that up. Because not just the staying in your lane and bumping into people, but having to control your speed even more. Has that been an adjustment because like track and field it's just like you hear the gun you go you make it to the finish line but then in wrestling it's like sometimes it's slow down let it breathe don't rush to the next thing has that adjustment been challenging for you too a hundred percent um as recent as earlier this week we were in the ring and my coach was telling me like slow down you just have to let it breathe and i'm like i'm not used to that like once i hear the gun you say go i'm ready like when the bell rings i'm ready to go he's like you don't have to just get right to it just because the bell rang i'm like i'm just used to it i'm wired that way so now when the bell rings i try not to just go right forward i try and let it breathe a little bit fill her out you know so it's definitely all been an adjustment but track and field has nothing to do with what i'm doing but i did try and incorporate it in my cali connection i was like i'm fast i got to use it somewhere somewhere that it could stand out so i was i i honestly got influenced from braun breaker seeing his i was like oh he's fast i feel like i could do something like that so that inspired me uh to get into the cali connection and if you have not watched evolve yet shame on you and i was annoyed i was annoyed this week because i saw someone um a popular um alan owns he's a popular social media guy who posts wrestling stuff all the time and i saw him post this thing about Keanu Carver and he's like I've been I've seen him for a long time but I don't know what he's been doing the last year but he's I said well I know what he's been doing the last year he was literally one year on Evolve so and I just say that because I think that the show has been so good and you you know and Kendall and Vanity Project and all of you guys who the first class kind of yeah um have been such an integral part of it so you have not watched the show though The Cali connection is Cali goes back and forth off the ropes, and then basically it's like a super fast, aggressive shoulder block that if the person takes it well, looks awesome.

39:37They go flying. It's fantastic. But it's kind of a dope finish. I never thought about it like this. A, it works to your history like you mentioned, but physically for you, it's kind of great. All you're doing is really throwing the shoulder block. A hundred percent. I can do that every night. You can do that until you're 60. It might get a little slow, but you'll be able to keep going. I can figure it out. So how did they tell you? I saw the announcement came on at Stand and Deliver Day on Saturday or during the show. How did that day play out for you, and did you know before that? I didn't know too much before that.

40:12Like that day, maybe an hour before the show aired, I got a call saying that, hey, we're going to air a package saying Callie Armstrong coming soon. um this Friday will be your last one on Evolve you're getting ready to get ready to be on NXT full time it's like I know you've been on there a few times here and there but now we're about to really get ready to lock and load and shoot you off and I was like wow this is crazy did you did you not think it would be now like did you think you would still maybe have another title run on Evolve like how did you see it playing out um one thing about me is a lot of people anticipate the worse I anticipate the best so I've been feeling like it was gonna be me since six months in you know I'm like hey my time could be next week my time could be next so I've always felt like my time was coming um you just never know exactly when but I always try and stay ready so you ain't got to get ready so when I got the call I was like yes this is the time but mentally I've always been ready for the time to be here um what go ahead SGG I was gonna say what about that transition though kind of caught you off guard right because when you hear people talk about going from NXT to the main roster they talk about just how different it is and even that little jump no matter what they did in the PC it doesn't fully prepare you from the main roster is that like a similar did you experience something similar going from evolved to NXT or is the gap not as wide as fans might definitely feel like the gap isn't as wide going from evolved to NXT because the NXT girls are girls that I see every day I train with every day we're in the same class we mix and mingle all the time whereas when you're going from NXT to the main roster these are girls that you probably never even said a word to you know so you don't really know their moveset you know you never really touched but evolving the main or evolving NXT there's a girls that like I say we've trained with so I'm familiar with their moveset I'm familiar what they do so it's not as big of a jump as it will be going from NXT to the main roster who are you most comfortable in the ring with like if you were to see their name if you get to your first NXT taping and it says their name you'll go cool I I know that I'll be comfortable tonight um the obvious one would obviously be Kendall Gray we have great history we started together we came up together we have had great bouts and feuds together um so if I saw Kendall Gray on there I'm like oh yeah it's time let's get it did you now i i would say on commentary recently um that i kind of i you know i i've been doing color commentary so the story i've been adding for you is callie has to see don't forget callie's the first champion she has to be sick of seeing kendall gray kendall gray kendall gray but i do ask you know is there any part of that that's true just in the sense that Kendall has become such a thing so fast and you were the first champion was there a piece there that really did motivate you like yo if Kendall can be getting all this hype when is my chance coming yeah 100 % like me and her like I said we've been back and forth I know what she could do she knows what I could do so seeing her go from evolve to NXT and really how she took off it's like man like I see what it can be you know I'm like I understand the potential that going to NXT can do and when they get behind you and stuff so I'm like I'm super excited for my turn you know.

43:32Who have been your coaches in in NXT and is there one in particular who's really helped shape you into the wrestler you are? Yeah as the latest Johnny Moss and Sean Spears have been the two that I've been going back and forth with a lot. Sean Spears definitely helped me so much with my aggression like the way I think being creative like his mind is through the roof and Working with Moss as well, the way he could just put together these crazy matches. In Evolve, I've been blessed to be a part of different type of matches. Gauntlet matches, Five Woman, Four. A lot of people on NXT haven't even had some of those matches.

44:09We love a multi-man match in Evolve, that is for sure. Yeah, the way Moss can put that together and the way Sean Spears is able to make us turn into these beasts. It's amazing. Well, listen, our music is playing, which means it's time to break. I'm so glad we got a minute with you. We'll do it again once you're at NXT, but I wanted to say congrats and good luck. And thank you so much for entertaining us the last year. I appreciate it. Thank you. That is Callie Armstrong, ladies and gentlemen. We get to your calls next. A big second hour of Cheap Heat Live right here on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7.

44:45Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Stalk chocolate to reason. If you like chocolate, then you'll love reason. extra chewy chocolate caramels covered with a rich chocolate coating welcome back to the program my brother has been getting re-immersed in pro wrestling we were supposed to do a Patreon last week SGG, failed by us I really hope we can try to pull it off this Sunday this is a realistic Sunday for me last one wasn't, I think this one is you going to be in LA still? no, I'll be back maybe Sunday so maybe Sunday is the real we could make this happen but my brother made a really good point He was listening to the show.

45:24He said, yo, Sina was the bronze medal in the first pipe bomb. And I'm like, because he had never seen it. So after Monday, on Monday, because Nick's watching current raw, I went, have you ever seen this? And of course he hasn't because he's only up to like 1997. So he has not seen the pipe bomb and he watched it. Now, I thought it was a very interesting point for my brother. Remember, what everyone talked about coming out of Punk's first pipe bomb was Dufus' son-in-law, which is management, which is, again, he's talking about management. Yep. He loved that whole thing. That's Punk. And ice cream bars, which is marketing, which is ticket sales.

46:07That's a really good point, too. So, God damn it, this is pipe bomb, too. This is pipe bomb, too. It really is. Now, the question is, Punk got the ice cream bars. Yep. He got the ice cream bar T-shirt. All that stuff happened. We'll see if he has the same impact this time around, but I thought that was a really good point. 877-344-4893. Hope you enjoyed Callie Armstrong. Really proud of her. What a lovely young lady she is. We only got a little bit of time, but I just wanted to at least catch a word with her before she goes on to NXT and becomes a superstar so you could at least say, we remember hearing her on She Pete back in the day, today being her last day of Evolve tapings.

46:49Some breaking news. well breaking as of this morning um you may have already seen this here um i don't know you may know this sug this is according to wrestle talk according to wrestle ops all the big ones remember i'm in the west coast so i'm still in this morning i haven't seen i haven't seen anything from east coast morning jelly roll will reportedly be in cody rhodes corner at wrestlemania 42

47:24that is as of a couple hours ago everyone everyone is reporting that jelly roll huh there's a bright side to this go ahead that maybe not for the entire WWE Universe but certainly for Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 is that if Jelly Roll is going to be a part of this then that means that you're going to have to do more Jelly Roll impressions because the people loved your Jelly Roll impression from a couple of weeks ago when he was trying to do those motivational speeches with Randy O. You don't have to bust one out now. You don't have to bust one out now. I don't even remember what I said. What did I do?

48:13You were just freestyling, but you hit a little jelly roll impression. Oh, and I was like, come on, Randy. You can do it. Like the over-the-top baby face jelly? Yeah. Yeah, we got to get, you know, so maybe that's something that makes the parents WrestleMania weekend. Oh, it's not the same. Listen, it's not Jewish JR. You know what I mean? No. By the way, by the way, SGG, I just want to say before I forget, happy Passover to all who celebrate. That's right. We did. We did the four questions at my house. And the wine was drinking at the Ross household as we welcomed Eliyahu in what was a beautiful Passover Seder.

49:03Now, business was picking up as Eliyahu knocked on the door. I gotta say Is this the holiday with the Afi Coleman SGG The Afi Coleman was found And business picked up Manicevich was Consumed As always I have to tell you guys I don't know how many of you Like or care for Or have no interest I Jewish JR Of all the things I do the thing that in my head I'm laughing the hardest at. I just cannot take it. I love the idea of Jewish JR as he is the least Jewish man. Shame on you for judging me. Alright, let's keep going to the people. 877-344-4893. Yes, SGG. Before we take another call, I do want to say, Demetrius triggered like a nightmare scenario in my head where he was stretching and connecting all these dots.

50:12Pat McAfee said he's here to save wrestling. Randy Orton said there's more than one royal family in wrestling. CM Punk inserted himself into the goings-ons with McAfee and Cody and what's happening on SmackDown. Is Roman aligned with Orton and McAfee? And is he on the Raw side going to be a part of Pat McAfee's play to, quote unquote, save wrestling and protect the business from people like Cody by handing championships over to these legacy acts from these wrestling families? Is that a possibility? I think you're stretching still. Yeah, I would. Okay. Because I don't want that. And I don't think you should be worried about it.

50:59I do not think that. now Wrestle Features is reporting oh boy that Randy Orton and Pat McAfee versus Cody Rhodes and Jelly Roll is being planned for backlash I love celebrities have always been involved in Wrestlemania I'm not mad at Lil Yachty being a part of things I gotta tell you we're not gonna have a lot of time to spend on it I think I show speed is I think the way I show speed is being used is tremendous um agree i have no i have no notes for how i show speed is is being used in fact i would get i show speed on cheap heat next week if i could i might send a text to someone who could see if he come by i think i think speed speed is this reluctant heel is like hilarious it is perfect use of a celebrity um the yachty thing came out of nowhere in the moment but like it works you know i mean And that's fine.

52:01They've always done that. Where people are getting emotional, and I understand it, is by, as CM Punk put it, outsiders being shoehorned into major, major storylines. Yeah. That is where people are getting frustrated. and you know i don't know if people are going to be how people react to the idea that the main event of backlash will be a a celeb tag match um you know listen it's only a couple of weeks involving the champion because one of those men is going to be the champion either cody radio so so you know listen backlash is so quickly after it's so immediate this year what is it two weeks no three yeah so anyways I understand people's emotion around all of this stuff for sure and how will it be received we'll see when we get there I just felt like Jelly Roll's been on TV a lot like every week when he it's a lot of I think they are risking Jelly Roll being a heel by the time we get to Backlash but that's how much exposure that's how much exposure i was talking to another celebrity about this storyline and he was like this celebrity said the crowd is going to start booing jelly roll because it's too much and he was like that's every celebrity who gets involvement's worst nightmare is getting unintentionally booed like yeah you you either want to be a heel where they're meant to boo you or you just want to get a pop you putting jelly roll out there every week in okay you put jelly roll against kit wilson in front of too many smart wrestling fans people are going to start cheering for kit wilson because people already want to cheer for kit wilson because people already want to cheer for kit wilson close already to want to cheer for kit wilson yes and and shout Shout out to Tim Rivera and Jamie Iovine, their new podcast, Real Graps on Complex.

54:14They got the Kit Wilson interview. That was a good scoop because I'd recently thought we need to get Kit Wilson. And they got to Kit Wilson. That's a really good get by them. But Kit Wilson, people already want to cheer him. So I would be careful. You know what I'm saying? Like Pat, you know, Pat is very impressive in a lot of ways. I mean, particularly in the ring, he's always impressed me that like, you know, like a lot of these guys who have come to it late, Pat always seemed to be pretty good at it. I was always impressed by that. But you're still asking, and I know Pat talks every day on TV.

54:48It's not the same. No. It's not the same. And that's what I was going to say. Pat's biggest strength is the mic and the promo. And at least as between Cody and Pat and Punk, I hate to keep running back to this phrase, but Pat is the bronze medalist. You put him in there to do the thing that he does the best at this stage in his life, and especially in the world of professional wrestling, which is talk. and he's at risk of being outclassed by the champs and then if that happens then you suddenly start to question the need for for pat mcafee um in this role um yeah so pat pat tweeted tonight on smackdown the business continues to heat up um it's finally feels like wrestlemania season doesn't that's what happens when the goat is the focal point that is why I thank Randy Orton for existing so they keep doing this whole thing where Pat just keeps going let's talk about the goat he's the goat he's the goat but the realistic thing is I'm sorry you can say it over and over again and he's doing the right thing Pat's doing the right thing the second they decided to go this direction Randy's no longer the focal point that's the problem that's why people were angry about it is that even if Pat keeps saying it's about randy it's about pat how are you going to have a conversation about the business being less corporate when it's being led by someone who we know is represented by the number one power broker in the entire company who's one of the biggest players in all of hollywood that's why people were frustrated that pat was the one having the conversation sgg it's like he's sort of in a lot of ways and you know I don't think Pat intended this when he started but like Pat is one of the most corporate things about WWE he's he's on yes he's a huge star on ESPN he's a huge star and he is the definition of big corporate crossover WWE now maybe there's a world in which they can also make that super edgy but it feels sort of counter for it to be the guy who's represented by the guy who said he wants to make him the next Sly Stallone.

57:18We all read the headlines. Yes, and we see it happening. I will say this. I mostly agree with what you're saying, but I just want to add, I think fans thinking about WrestleMania as the big blow-off spot is mistaken, though, just historically, right? Hogan and Andre, after WrestleMania III, they feuded for another year. Yep. WrestleMania 4, Randy Savage wins the title in that match with Ted DiBiase. They also feud again for a very long time. You got the Mega Powers versus the Mega Bucks comes out of that. Bret Hart, Yokozuna, they feud again for another year. Cody Roman still going. So it's not really, you can't really say WrestleMania, it has to blow off.

58:02And how does it end here? It's just a chapter in the story. Sometimes it's the last chapter. Sometimes it's the first chapter. sometimes it's the middle so i don't know where this is right for cody and randy but i think us thinking of it as the blow-off and pat ruined the blow-off might be you know that might be you know the shiny object that we can't just get caught chasing because it doesn't mean that it's not a problem but it we we don't know where we are with this story yet to say this definitely is the mistake because no you are you are 1000 correct it's not as it's not that simple it never has been like it's never it's not a given that the blow off is is here some stories will go away in two seconds some will go through the summer and longer now when we get back we do speaking of stories that could go on we do want to talk a little bit about brock and oba there's there's so many other things now we got to get to and we want to keep talking to you 877-344-4893 because you guys we're not gonna have a lot of time to talk next week and we want to hear from So the time to call is right now.

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59:40You like pancakes? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Cheap Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. We have shifted things around, so we're going to do a nice long segment here and take you till the end of the hour, talking to all of you about everything going on in the world. First of all, and again, all your calls to it, 877-344-4893. If you want to talk to us, this would be the day because next Friday is going to be hectic. So get your calls in right now. SUG, the card, the actual card placement is complete. We now know night one, when hour one is going to be on ESPN2, You have Drew versus Jacob Fatu.

1:00:27The Usos and LA Knight versus The Vision and Eyeshow Speed. We just talked about that. So those will probably both be on TV. Then you have the Fatal 4-Way, and that is assuming that Nikki Bella is physically okay to go. The Bellas versus Bayley and Lyra versus Charlotte and Bliss versus Nia and Lash Legend, the champs. Women's IC title, AJ and Becky, Seth and Gunther. Liv and Stephanie, Cody and Randy with Pat McAfee. Night two SGG, to me, it's hard to say which night's better, but this is a hammer of night two. Brock Lesnar versus Oba early in the night. That's going to be on ESPN, it looks like.

1:01:16The IC ladder match looks like that'll be on ESPN as well. Remember, big difference. Respectfully, trust me, I know. I've been on both. Name drop button. ESPN 2 is one thing. ESPN regular hits different. I don't know why. SEG, most people who have ESPN also have ESPN 2. But regular ESPN hits different. Sunday, you're going to get that. So you get Brock and Oba on ESPN. We've got Trick and Sammy. You have Jade and Rhea. we have demon finn balor and dominic mysterio and then of course we have punk and roman uh sg removing your personal bias for roman if you can night one night two which is the better night to you i mean look you asked me to do the impossible i'll try but but also it's hard to do what that's what you want out of this wrestlemania right both main events strong let's just get that out of the way.

1:02:12So like these main events, whether you love Roman, Cody, Randy, no matter who you love, you have to admit that these are equals. I'm giving the edge to Punk Roman because I feel like there was some real backstage heat, some real meat on the bone. So both main events are strong, but taking those out of the way, this ladder match that just got Rey Mysterio added to it, strong. Seth Gunther coming out of nowhere for their match night one, strong. It's hard to choose which night is going to be the strongest. And this is a game we try to play every year, but this is the year where I'm going to say I don't have an answer to which night is the strongest.

1:02:51On paper, when you see those posters, night two looks great to me. But how can I turn a blind eye to Drew versus Jacob? You know what I mean? We talked about speed and how entertaining he is. That showcase on ESPN2, it's going to be fantastic. how can i actually choose you know what i mean why would you put me in that position um it's hard sg but that's why we pay you the big bucks over here you know what i'm saying it's it's it's opinions like this now oba and brock um that is going to be awesome to see on television a lot of people i think are going to stop and look at their tvs to just to see the spectacle that is oba and brock sg i i believe more than ever now oba is going over in a big way at wrestlemania i've kind of changed my tune on that i'm i'm going oh but it's to smoke brock um he's smoking a brock pack on wrestlemania sunday i'm with you i'm with you i was playing the long game with this oba loss that he'll lose gets the feud and then maybe bigger things down the line but um you know not to jump to the to another match on the card but when Gunther told Paul Heyman I looked out for you so now you gotta look out for me and I'm paraphrasing that to me sent my antennas up that okay Gunther's gonna get the Brock match and if Oba's not if that's not in the cards for Oba then I have to I have to you know I have to hit that light bulb button it seems to be playing out that if that is not in the cards for Oba then yes he does need this win at WrestleMania Sunday live on ESPN.

1:04:37I'm picking Oba for that. Yeah, I think it's feeling like Oba time at this point. Also, what a nasty clash of heads with Roxanne and Liv. Not a great moment there. Not a great moment. That's not what you want. Hopefully this one comes down. I don't know who you blame for that I don't know if that means like Steph is out of control in the moment or if it's just randomly and freak I really don't know guys I'm not going to give my opinions on people getting hurt anymore you know obviously the people have spoken oh I should have Kelly I should have told you to pull the audio of stack guy Greg being I mean of stack guy Greg of of Corey Graves being a bad guy and calling me out on on national television again by the way people in this town how many graves makes fun of me on commentary every week and this time this time it's a it was a dive another dive from eo and and grave said what did he say rosenberg's gonna be upset about this he said oh he said oh i think i gave rosenberg a heart attack so he should talk to somebody about that no he should talk to her

1:05:58i'm gonna see if i can find this for you hold on it was it was a bad guy he is a bad guy um oh here it is i'm gonna i'm gonna send it over to you kelly i listen i'm the i've heard from so many other people who agreed with me by the way well um a friend of ours i think i can quote him i don't think he'd be offended a friend of ours adam canta the great adam canta if you will reached out to me and said he completely he had just he was catching up with the podcast and said how much he agreed and said that in his opinion seeing moves where he worries about the like health of the talent actually takes him out of the moment he's like I don't like having to worry about people and and that's what happens half the time with these dives um and you know listen i heard from people in other companies who completely disagree with me about it um i heard from people who did agree or i heard from mostly people who just didn't care and wanted to talk ish um anyways yeah of course yeah whether you agreed or disagreed your point was proven though because what happened right after she hit the dive we cut to commercial and we sit through about some ads on it didn't mean anything what you mean this past week yeah went to commercial yet again it's just like you know that's that's part of the point yeah the diminishing value of the the suicide dive brought to you by doordash as our caller said last week uh let's go to let's talk to the people um like i said guys if you want to get in on anything with cheap heat pre-mania today's the day let's go to tim in arkansas who at least according to this what's written down here as an insane take.

1:07:44Tim, what's up? Hey, I may be way out of left field on this, but I see a lot of heat between TKO and WWE because of all the stuff that's going on, and I think it's real. Because, I mean, it's just like politics. But there's only one person that can save WWE right now. And that will be Vince McMahon. Oh, boy. And if you think back Whenever Triple H took over Creative and stuff It was going good until TKO bought in Well hold on now Vince McMahon will come back At Wrestlemania And he won't even have to appear All you'll hear is You're fired Do you I think he'll have WWE back Now listen, listen hear me out for a second please i have thoughts too p all right tim tim here's the thing tim that what you're saying is never going to happen um i also what do you think vince would exactly do in this moment to quote unquote save wwe that's my question what would vince do upon returning if he were able to buy it buy it back from tko what would it do he would buy it back and he would let Triple H take over like he did when he started.

1:09:15Well, that's Triple H's... Well, Triple H is currently booking the show. I know that everyone's talking in this last week. Thank you for the call, Tim. Appreciate you, buddy. And let me be clear, S.U.G., because I know you have things you want to say here, too, to poo-poo this. From a storyline standpoint, Tim is not crazy. If this were all storyline and there were no real world ramifications, the craziest, illest, biggest pop OMG moment possible, yes, would be that no chance ringing off. Yes. However, this isn't just a storyline situation. Right. It is the real world and that is not going to happen.

1:10:03I'll pass you the ball, SGG. Go ahead. but also quickly we got to talk to other people there's no way wrestling fans hate triple h enough to be doing all this revisionist nonsense number one how how many years has it been when we were calling vince an out-of-touch old man who's crazy he doesn't know anything and that he needed to pass the mic to triple h and our caller said you know he would buy it back and leave triple h and creative there's no that is not has no basis in reality or history triple h did not vince did not voluntarily give Triple H control of creative. He had the grip on that pen that was so tight like there's no way he's going to come back, have full control and then be like, oh yeah, I'll step back and let Triple H continue.

1:10:49None of that is there's no basis in reality and we wouldn't even like it. We hated it when he was in charge. He was the out of touch old man. Did we forget this? You can't rewrite history And listen, I am not someone who, because of all of the personal life controversy, I will not rewrite history about Vince McMahon's contributions. But we also can't rewrite history about where he was at the end from a booking standpoint. So I'll just say this. Now, listen, would it be fire? Again, you remove the personal life stuff. Fantasyland. would it be if Vince from a story standpoint not actually taking over the show from a story standpoint would him coming out and saying I'm taking back the show be awesome story wise incredible real life wise no story wise because think about it you're up fans booed Hogan listen S-U-G it may not be met with cheers but the holy S of it all would be mine again story because now it's such a this is why it's impossible to talk about because you can't remove anymore everything else but like when dip always talks about that massive overarching story which they really have yet to dive into maybe that's the most exciting thing about all the murmurs and innuendo around Ari Emanuel is that it finally maybe brings us back to a place where we can get that overarching ownership management storyline where is the rock on the board where's aria manual how all the people play out on the tko board that is compelling uh however it's not going to be vince mcmahon here i'm told now kelly has loaded up the audio of cory graves insulting me on international television on monday

1:12:52and then he added he added after that she should talk to him thanks Graves I was trying to get Graves to come by the show next week as well we're going to see how that plays out let's go to yeah let's say it to your face yeah say it to my face Graves say it to my face by the way I do want to have a serious moment here only because now I know that he posted on social media about it I didn't want to say anything last week but I do want to send just the most heartfelt love out to Byron Saxton who posted about the passing of his mom on Instagram last week. Obviously I've reached out to him in real life but still for anybody out there in our universe who may not be aware that this happened I just wanted all of us to be able to uh you know virtually wrap our arms um around one of the best people in all of pro wrestling I mean one of the best people I've ever just had the privilege of of getting to know you know period um he's just a wonderful um wonderful human being yeah he posted it a few days ago that as he put on Saturday morning, March 28th at 2.06 a.m., Byron and his sister, he said, my sister and I watched as our mom's spirit officially departed this earth and ascended to a residence of eternity in heaven.

1:14:29For nearly 11 months, my family and I have been entrenched in my mom's battle against stage four colon cancer. And when I tell you guys Byron was entrenched I mean the amount of effort and love that he gave to his mom was astounding not surprising given the kind of man that Byron is but I know firsthand how much he was going through it through this whole time and I just wanted to send love to Byron and his sister and the rest of their family um Gladys Kelly passed away on March 28th 2026 Byron I love you buddy the wrestling world loves you you are a your mom must have been and your dad some incredible people because SGG I know you haven't gotten to spend much time with Byron when I tell you they raised a gem of a human being I mean Byron is simply put one of the best human beings I've ever met so sending all of our love to you Byron and hopefully he's able to make it out to Wrestlemania I don't know what his plans are yet in that regard I didn't ask but sending love out there to Byron definitely let's take a few more calls here because again we're down to our last 8 minutes of the week before Wrestlemania next week we're going to have big interviews we're going to be live from Vegas but if you want to get down let's go to Harry in California Harry Hey, thanks for taking my call.

1:15:56The lady that screened the call, she was very nice and respectful, and I had issues with my phone, so thank you for that. Oh, that's Kelly. She does a great job. Yeah. That was awesome. Hey, I don't think I've heard this about why the attendance is down. Maybe it's intentional, but I have a lot of family in Canada and England, and they simply don't want to visit the U.S. right now. Sure. They go on vacations all over the place, and they're like, we're not going to U.S. They're going to Japan. They're going to all these other places. and turns them right now down 25 % from Canada and Europe. That's a real thing.

1:16:28Absolutely. I don't want to talk politics, but it is a very real thing. Hey, listen, you never have to avoid talking politics with me, at least not here. But no, no, we are not ingratiating ourselves to the world internationally. So you are. And remember, even beyond the political part, Harry, Vegas was last year. So if you did make the trip, are you really making the trip a second time? It's a double whammy. You know, it definitely is. And one thing about Jelly Roll, too, Jelly Roll and his wife were getting a lot of hate online for not being authentic and the real people they portray them to be.

1:17:01That eventually is going to get bigger and go into the wrestling crowd, I would think. So I don't know when the boos are going to come, but I have a feeling the boos are going to come. Harry, yeah, yeah, all these things are on the table, and these are the things. Thank you for the call. Harry's a wise man. no listen my man my man harry was like hey let's just call up and talk a bunch of shit these guys can't talk about respect it no harry listen it's listen that he might not be wrong because when wrestling fans get a hand a hold of some dirt no wrestling fans are hip to stuff and i'll tell you i i wasn't even talking about that when i said i think the booze are coming i just think it's because you take an outsider and you try to boost them up as the perfect baby face people don't want They don't want anyone to be a perfect babyface.

1:17:49They were ready to boo Cody Rhodes. You think they're not going to boo Jelly Roll? Let's go to Tim in Tennessee. What's up, Tim? Take me to another place. Take me to another land. What do you got, Tim? All righty. This is about TKO. All right. The WWE ran off CM Punk. And CM Punk went and forced them to break him back. The same thing with Cody Rhodes, Drew McIntyre, Matt Cardona. And like it or not, I think Triple H had a hand in running them off and bringing them back. So what if them four kind of take, not actually like a faction, but like a work together against TKO with someone in the background who might wind up being Triple H, who might wind up turning on them down the road?

1:18:44I love that. Tim, thank you for the call. I love that idea. And again, that goes back to what I said earlier. That overarching storyline that we've been missing. I love the idea of it being some sort of faction of WWE people versus TKO. It's right there for you, man. And we already had The Rock who became the final boss. and then now you'd have to wrap it into the story, SGG. I love you, Rocky, but you completely abandoned us. You completely bailed on the story. You know that was not well received by everyone. So should he ever want to come back, it's got to be as a heel. Sorry. There may be an initial pop when The Rock comes back again, but once it settles down, it's turning into booze.

1:19:32Like that moment has happened. So I love the idea, C.G., of us getting that overarching management storyline involving maybe a faction against TKO. That would be super cool. Yeah, wrestling fans, like you said, we love that. That's an easy story that you can always tell because everybody can always relate to that. Let's go to Michael in Colorado. What's up, Michael? Hey, thank you very much for taking my call. So I think that Paul Heyman has been a big part in this Obafemi-Brock Lesnar match. So I'm wondering, after WrestleMania, do you think Paul Heyman will still mentor Obafemi off-air? You know, listen, that's a great call.

1:20:15I have no idea what the current working relationship is with Paul and Oba, but we all know Paul takes a working interest in a lot of these people, either the people that he's managing on television or the people who they're up against. like he really does he he's very involved i mean paul paul is his level of commitment to this talent is there's no end to it so that would not surprise me man thank you for the call we'll see but it certainly wouldn't surprise me let's go to scott inst louis what's up scott how's it going what's up buddy i just tried to mastermind uh an idea here for night one and night two let's just suppose night one towards the end of the main event punk comes out of nowhere takes out McAvee somehow helping Rhodes retain the belt.

1:21:03Fade to black. We go to night two towards the end of night two's main event. Rock comes out, takes out Punk helping Reigns win the belt. And that's it. Fade to black, both nights. Then Punk's in a whole mess. Rhodes didn't ask for Punk's help. And then Rock's coming back for retribution to take out Punk. And then Rock and Reigns. I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I mean, listen, Punk has now inserted himself into the story, SGG. So I know. Something's got to happen. I'm not mad at that at all. Listen, I don't know how the Rock and Roman thing, I don't know where you go, how they ended up in this moment together.

1:21:45Does it make sense? You can make it work. Easy enough. Let's go to Mike in Pittsburgh. We'll give you the last word today, Mike. What's going on? Hey, not too much, guys. Thanks for taking my call. So this is something I've been thinking about for like a number of years with WrestleMania and now like with SummerSlam. Why is it two nights? Why can't it just be one night and a ticket sales are down? Why don't they just have everything in the one night? Why are you going to pay X amount of money to watch half of the card when the other half is just as good as me or maybe better? I just feel like it's a greed thing at this point.

1:22:21And it's, and maybe that's why ticket sales are down. well listen it's not a bad point mike certainly in terms of the ticket sale at least sg thank you for the call go ahead greg part of it is on the fans though right there's this idea and it's snowballed and it's growing that everybody needs to be on the card this person needs their wrestlemania moment one way to accomplish that was those marathon manias that we had leading up to and finally ending with wrestlemania 35 where you're in the stadium for seven hours with pre-shows and main events and all that, and then you get out at 1, 2 a.m., and the next day is a Monday.

1:22:58We should never go back to that. We should never go back to that. And if we do, then fans have to just accept that some people are going to be on the SmackDown. Some people are going to be on the Raw after Mania. There might be something else for people to do, and some people just might miss the weekend completely. But if fans don't want that, the best solution is this two-night card that we have now. Guys, we will do it again next week from Las Vegas. Thank you, Ben. Thank you, Kelly. SGG, we'll talk next week. Dip, I don't know if he'll be here next week. Probably not, but we will be here live on WrestleMania Friday next week, noon Eastern.

1:23:36We'll see you then. Have a good weekend.