

Cheap Heat Live discusses a “Sitting Shiva” food spread from Barry Blaustein, then pivots to pro-wrestling news and upcoming cards (Brock Lesnar’s return, Clash in Italy, Saturday Night’s Main Event, and Tribal Combat Roman Reigns vs Jacob Fatu). They also debate travel/airfare (premium economy vs business) and do a bit about collecting vintage wrestling items.
Peter Rosenberg (Philadelphia; “forever 24-7 champion”), Greg (the “stack guy,” also based in Philadelphia for now), Dip DePristine (joining from Los Angeles). SGG is referenced as another recurring voice (discussing Prague travel and ticket purchasing).
Rosenberg is a wrestling media personality and host. Greg is a wrestling-focused personality (“stack guy”). Dip DePristine is a regular wrestling commentator. SGG is a frequent travel/airfare and wrestling discussion participant.
The shiva spread is analyzed as having “nice lock surplus” (lots of lox), multiple cream cheeses and bagel options, and a dessert room with red velvet cupcakes, rugelach, crumb cake, and Swedish Fish. Brock Lesnar’s return to attack Oba Femi is framed as a logical continuation (Lesnar isn’t truly retired) and sets up a rematch at Clash. For Tribal Combat, they argue Jacob Fatu should win (or at least not lose cleanly) to solidify him as a top main-event star.
Barry Blaustein’s shiva included kippered salmon and “sable” (as debated), fruit salad (mostly joked as uneaten), coffee cake, and Swedish Fish. Wrestling examples include Oba Femi vs Brock Lesnar, Saturday Night’s Main Event matches (Becky Lynch vs Sol Ruka; Paige & Bree vs the Irresistible Forces), and Roman Reigns vs Jacob Fatu Tribal Combat.
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Exploration of travel habits and experiences among the hosts.
“Ladies and gentlemen, the world's number one sports and recreation podcast, Cheap Heat.”
A detailed discussion on travel class preferences and ticket purchasing.
“Now, we have a lot of things to get into.”
A humorous transition discussing the historical name changes of Czechoslovakia.
“I wouldn't even know whether to make a left or right out of my driveway to go to Prague.”
Hosts share personal stories related to their trips to Prague.
“Czechoslovakia is like when the Godfather went from the Godfather to the Goodfather, Papa Shango.”
The hosts analyze the food spread from a Shiva they attended.
“And I would like Dipperstein and SGG to take a look.”
Hosts engage in a light-hearted debate about their food choices.
“That is a, that is a sizable to keep in mind.”
Concluding thoughts on the Shiva experience and reflections on food.
“Had you gone into the spread, what would you have made from the spread?”
The hosts discuss their ideal bagel creations at a gathering, detailing toppings and sides.
“You want to get into when you're at your best having a conversation?”
The hosts share stories about Barry from his friends, including Richard's memorable wrestling encounters.
“This story to me blew my mind because I never heard this.”
The conversation shifts to the cultural significance of Barry's films and anecdotes shared at the gathering.
“Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Cheap Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7.”
Discussion on the implications of Brock Lesnar's potential retirement and upcoming matches.
“I guess my feeling on it is listen if they can make it awesome, great I'm all here for it.”
The hosts analyze the significance of a potential match between Obafemi and Brock Lesnar.
A conversation about the challenges in Obafemi's character development and storyline direction.
“But I will say, this is better than what we were getting.”
Preview and predictions for upcoming wrestling events, including Clash and Night of Champions.
“So I do think for right now, if they decide to make this a back and forth thing, clash, and then you have SummerSlam in Minneapolis, August 1st.”
Discussion on the upcoming match between Becky Lynch and Sol Ruka and the dynamics involved.
“Paige and Bree versus the Irresistible Forces for the Women's Tag Team Championship.”
Speculation on match layouts and potential matchups for WrestleMania.
“I think that Becky Lynch, I think if you want to get in a promo battle with Becky Lynch, AJ was fine.”
A light-hearted discussion about traveling to Italy and the cultural experiences there.
“I feel like Oberbrock is definitely an Italy match.”
Debate on Jacob Fatu's potential to win a title and the implications for wrestling storylines.
“And you're going to, and you're going to think this is a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.”
Explore the importance of storytelling in wrestling narratives and character arcs.
“All of these things are just like, no, no, it can only be this way.”
Discussion on Jacob Fatu's potential and implications of his upcoming match.
“I think if Jacob loses, which presumably he will, I'm not sure where you go.”
Analyzing the unique rules of tribal combat and their impact on the outcome.
“Nobody is allowed to interfere in a tribal combat.”
Hosts discuss their collections of wrestling memorabilia and its value.
“Vintage WWF Ultimate Warrior Slim Gym Cardboard Store Display Graded 75 Plus.”
Insight into the worth of vintage wrestling posters and memorabilia collecting.
“I mean, it sounds like Dungeons & Dragons of J's.”
The hosts discuss their favorite wrestling memorabilia and collectibles.
“I'd love to see that if you have a picture of it.”
A conversation about the use of Yiddish phrases among wrestlers and its cultural significance.
“So at some point, someone else was speaking at Barry Blaustein, the great director of Beyond the Mat.”
The hosts share stories about their most prized wrestling possessions and their sentimental value.
“Depending on how they flip, you get points.”
The hosts preview the upcoming Double or Nothing event and discuss its significance.
Discussion about the upcoming Double or Nothing event and Mick Foley's involvement.
“I mean, it's his first official thing, it feels like.”
Overview of key matches at the Double or Nothing event, focusing on various wrestlers.
“Okay, real quick, let's hit the highlights of the card, The matches that you just go, whoa.”
Discussion about Zayda Steele's career transition from Evolve to AEW, exploring her past experiences.
“of thoughts related to AEW, you know that dude on social media, SGG, the guy, he gets fed to me a lot.”
Analyzing Jon Moxley's promo and the mixed fan reactions regarding his status in AEW.
“And they're like, you don't get the storytelling.”
Debate on MJF possibly shaving his head and what that signifies for his character.
“But SGG, you wouldn't welcome him to the bald community?”
Discussion about celebrating achievements in wrestling, including fan experiences.
“You don't trust him as a bald man is what you're saying.”
Linking Dan Housen's involvement with the Knicks to wrestling culture and celebrations.
“I didn't come up with it myself, but that's, you know, hey.”
Exploring the different types of wrestling fans and their impacts on the community.
“I think yes, because the WWE universe is its own thing.”
Exploring the contrasting behaviors of wrestling fans in person versus online.
“gotten out of hand it really i i do i love this fan base like from a moral standpoint i think the wrestling fan.”
Discussing Danhausen's new merchandise and its significance in wrestling culture.
“I'm a fanatic and there's a festival for these fanatics so I'm going to be there.”
Analyzing the documentary 'Beyond the Mat' and its impact on wrestling perceptions.
“I think if I got to a big platform, people would gravitate towards it.”
Discussing the roles of Trick Williams and Lil Yachty in WWE and their impact.
“You don't watch Beyond the Mat now and think, oh, Vince McMahon would have liked this movie.”
Examining The Miz's role in establishing new talent in WWE and his significance.
“Yeah, well, to circle back to your question about The Miz, though, that's what makes this great for Trick and Miz, right?”
Discover how Miz serves as a benchmark for new WWE talent and the importance of character evolution.
“Because, you know, we said this on the show.”
Learn about the recent successes of new stars in WWE, and the significance of consistent character development.
“That's a trifecta right there just for this year.”
Explore the impact of Evolve on NXT's talent pool and how new wrestlers are being integrated into the main roster.
“Yeah, I think evil Chris Stapleton would be way, way more interesting for him.”
Get insights into upcoming wrestling events and the hosts' plans for the following week.
“Nikki Blackheart showed up and did stuff.”

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0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out, Zach. I got you. The major stick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The king of KC. 24 seconds. A thousand percent confirmed. M-mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. M-m-m-m-m-m-mage. M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m.
0:34It's a review. It's a review. Sweet, sweet Peter Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was repugged. It was repugged. It's professional wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen, the world's number one sports and recreation podcast, Cheap Heat. It's back, baby. Oh, yeah. Welcome aboard. Cheap Heat live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Every single Friday is the live show. Noon to 2. And then, of course, you can catch the replays here on Sirius XM Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 throughout the weekend. And, of course, subscribe to the podcast wherever you find podcasts or watch it on YouTube on Rosenberg Wrestling on the YouTube.
1:38I'm your forever 24-7 champion, Peter Rosenberg. And joining me in Philadelphia, at least for the time being, before he goes on the road, is the physically large stack guy, Greg. Yes. Before you go on the road also, I wish I was headed to Italy for the Clash. Yeah, that's right. but alas i'm a different european destination is but still the way that you live the gimmick though i mean the level every time i ask like hey what's your schedule this weekend tip i'm just checking in to like see what time he's you know make sure his times are good and every time it's like well i'm gonna be in hawaii i'm gonna be in la i'm gonna be i'm probably gonna be in new orleans it's unreal listen i'm only one of two places right it's either right here on pro wrestling three places, I should say, right here on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7, in court, or on the plane.
2:28I'm not hard to find. It's just about where that plane is. That's the only thing. That's a great, great point. It's a great, great point. Dip Ristine is also joining us from Los Angeles, California. Hey, Dip, how are you? Hey, good. How are you? I'm really, really, really great. Now, we have a lot of things to get into. You got to do that every week, by the way. I don't know where that came from. that's a regular he does it in real life phone calls how are you we need that every week hey how are you now SGG this is an important question and again I'm not trying to watch your pockets okay but you've recently said watch your pockets you've recently said that you refuse coach seats I just booked a trip to Europe I believe they wanted like$5 ,000 each way for business what happened how did you go about this Prague trip that people want to know I just want to clarify it's not that I refuse coach seats but I need some type of leg room I'm sensing a premium I'm sensing a premium select or something of this sort or something like that.
3:48What I do is I buy like the premium economy, the premium select somewhere where that if they give you the offer to buy and jump into that business class, you got the offer. And then what I end up doing is I make the jump after I get the seats closed because they don't let you go from all the way back into first class. It's not going to happen, but I get that. I get that next class under so that if I want to make that jump, I make that jump. And I do. Now, who handles the ticket procuring in your family? Is it you or Crystal? Crystal handles the ticket procuring. So I would probably have to talk to her then about the experience that it is.
4:29Because you really have to go through flights because the system that we live in is corrupt and chaotic. Finding the price. Guys, there are times when I was looking at our Italy flights and the premium select would be more expensive than the business class. Like the whole system is absolutely insane. But either way, so you're off. How long are you staying in Prague? Just for the weekend. So I'm coming back on Monday. Weekend in Prague. A day in the life of SGG. I wouldn't even know whether to make a left or right out of my driveway to go to Prague. I don't even know. I barely know where it is.
5:03I got to be honest. We were talking about this before the show, though. Dip, you work hard. You deserve some weekends like this. In Czechoslovakia?
5:16Let me start by going to the beach in Santa Monica, okay? Then we'll talk about Czechoslovakia, all right? Okay. And speaking of premium economy. By the way, I haven't heard of – I haven't heard of Slovakia in a long time. Right? I just heard of Czech. There hasn't been an Slovakia connected to Czech in a long time. It's the Czech Republic. But isn't it no longer that? Isn't it no longer Czech Republic? I think it's something else, yeah. I think it's like Chechia now. Yes. No, Chechia. It is. Yes. I'm not kidding. They changed the name again. Czech Republic is like a wrestler who can't keep a gimmick.
5:55I was going to say, Czechoslovakia has had more gimmicks than Barry Windham. Czechoslovakia is like when the Godfather went from the Godfather to the Goodfather, Papa Shango. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's Czechoslovakia to Czech Republic. That was my first international trip because my high school sweetheart moved to Prague. So I went to Prague multiple times in high school. And at that time, it was newly the good father. It had just become the Czech Republic. It was like brand new as the Czech Republic. And people were saying, wait a minute. Was that Czechoslovakia?
6:38My wife says crazy things. Go ahead. To me, the only difference with premium economy is that the seat back, the headrest is embroidered with premium economy. It's the same as X seat. They just declare it premium economy and they embroider it on the headrest. That's it. That's the only difference. Well, I'm going to tell you something, though. This is what you're saying makes a lot of sense for domestic flights. there are international flights where the we're like the the premium thing that's is is first class of jays where like it has a full lean like there there are some there are some different premium economies let's talk about the headrests that just slightly bend into the right and the left what they all do what i know what is that well they they sometimes don't coach what is that though in 52c they may not bend so so you're missing out but you're missing out on I'm missing out on the bending headrest.
7:34What did they think when they designed that? Wow, this is going to be a very comfortable feature for all of our passengers, for them to just be able to lean their head slightly on a piece of pleather. I've never understood what they think is useful about the bending of the headrest. It's crazy. It's a crazy. This is what they focused on on an airplane is the bending of the headrest. All right. So this is a day where we have a lot of different things to get to before the show's over. but I knew where we were going to start. I just sent pictures to the group chat. Okay. And I would like Dipperstein and SGG to take a look.
8:12What I have sent you is two photos of the spread from Barry Blaustein's Shiva last night on the Upper East Side. And I thought it was important. I thought for us to honor our friend, Barry Blaustein, one of the truest pecker heads of all time, nothing would honor him more than us analyzing his shiva spread the first one dip right out everyone everyone be quiet the first one that i sent that has the cream cheese and the bagels that was sort of in the main living room and then the secondary one that i sent which i was told when i took a picture they said you got to make sure you go to the other one we have a another one i went to the second room and took uh pictures of the dessert which i i think frankly is beautiful So first things first.
9:01Of course I have thoughts. I want to get your thoughts on Barry Blosdy and Shiva spread. Sure. Well, let's look at – I'm seeing something that you don't often see but is a true delicacy. This is the regular, the savory selection. I see kippered salmon, which is not something you see all the time. There's definitely lox there, but I'm also seeing kippered salmon, which is really – on the same plate, it appears as turkey. which is no no no i do not think that's turkey that is another fish it's another fish i can't no no it is it is if you zoom in that is another fish i believe it is sable i'm i'm seeing i'm wait wait you you mean mrs brock lesnar that's right that's right sable and kippert salmon is a that's a real situation that's not something that that that's not something you see every day well and also i want you to take a moment to appreciate this and if you want to see this everybody you if you later want to watch our show on YouTube, Emilio will be showing the pictures so you can actually see it yourself.
10:03What I really appreciated was the amount of locks on that locks plate. That is a, that is a sizable to keep in mind. This isn't a giant Shiva. He hasn't lived in New York in ages. So this is just for like his close friends and family that were living here in New York. It dip. It was either. I love when there's so much locks that you're not worried about how much locks you can use on the big. Yeah. Nice lock surpluses. Really? It makes, it makes it. It makes for a comfortable shiver. Yeah, you need a lock surplus. And many cream cheese options, as you see right there. There's plain, there's a chive, maybe a veggie option.
10:39They have butter in case Gentiles show up.
10:47Then they have different kinds of bagels. You obviously have fruit salad no one eats. You have to have the fruit salad no one eats. Oh, yeah, no one's eating that fruit salad. occasionally a woman will come an older lady will take some fruit and then they have one plate of dessert there there's some black and white some rugula and then um a beautiful sort of coffee cake and then the second room was just sg the dessert in the second room is beautiful yeah and i have to say i have so much respect for this dessert i need to know what kind of pie that is in the center looks like apple pie it does but it could be you're sensing a potentially a cobbler.
11:26I am sensing some type of cobbler. It could be like a berry. I don't know. I see something peeking through. I'm not getting an apple. But why I have to give this so much respect, there's two items that I see that I'm just like, yeah. One, the red velvet cupcakes in the back. You love red velvet. You love red velvet. Is this all flavors? No, no. It seems like this is a myriad. Red velvet, one of the great fake fugaas flavors of our time. That really doesn't taste like anything. No, it's one of the great gimmicks. It's one of the great gimmicks of all time. It is. It's Dubai chocolate before Dubai chocolate.
12:04It is. Hopefully Dubai chocolate stands the test of time that Red Velvet has. I will disagree. I had a period of time where I was very much a Red Velvet guy, and the people who do the Red Velvet very seriously, like in Brooklyn, that's what they do with the cream cheese icing. It does have a different thing. I think I'm worried about you. I think I think you've been I think you've been worked for years by red velvet purveyors. And you don't know what's up from down anymore. You don't know anything about red velvet. Hey, they got me through that. I got it. You got you got rugel on there. What are the things next to the are those both just different kinds of rugel?
12:47You have the chocolate rugel. But what are the things next to it again that are not the croissants of some kind? Those are just like a honey croissant. Yeah, mini croissant. Got it, got it. But shout out to the greatest candy of all time, Swedish Fish. It made the cut. Of course, he points out the Swedish Fish. Hell yeah, I did. Out of all the things here, he makes a comment. I saw it first. I saw it first. I scrolled. I want to tell you. And my eyes zeroed in. I want to tell you guys. On the Swedish Fish. The thing that makes me sad in looking back at these photos from the shiver from a couple days ago, I was like chatting so much and I'm going to get to some of the conversations in a second because I met some great people, but that I didn't eat any.
13:30And then I started getting like I it wasn't crowded enough where there's lots of people eating. And so I felt like people would have noticed he's like making a whole plate. And I just said I opted out of eating the Shiva food, which I feel some guilt about because this is a beautiful spread. I should have. Let me ask you a question. Had you gone into the spread, what would you have made from the spread? See, now we're having a conversation. I don't know that I – listen, when it comes to interviews with wrestlers, I don't know. I could take you. I could leave you. You want to get into when you're at your best having a conversation?
14:07That's a question. Now that is a conversation. Of course. You know what the hell you're doing? I do. I would have – all right, so no one's judging me? Is there no judgment? am i like no i feel like you i feel like you can't that's a cop-out no judgment just make the plate okay the plate i'm making is you might get judged but i'm i'm reaching into the bagels thank you babe i'm going into the bagels natalie would love this game by the way of what she would do here i'd probably get um it looks like an everything i'd get the everything bagel it's buried it's buried under everything else you're reaching in you're moving other bagels out of the way to find the everything.
14:47And then I'm then using, if this is a jalapeno cream cheese, I'm using a jalapeno cream cheese. If it's a chive cream cheese, I'm using the chive cream cheese. I don't see any veggies, so I'm just doing the bagel with cream cheese and lox. That's on one side of the plate. I might even be the guy who puts a little fruit salad on there to look like I'm doing something positive. You're faking the fruit salad? I might have faked the fruit salad. No, the fruit salad looks good, though. It does look good. Could use more pineapples. But, you know, you could always use more pineapple in a fruit salad.
15:24There's never enough pineapple. And because I'm at the table, the first table where they have that one plate of dessert. Do you see the crumb cake? Yes. At the first dessert. So my first round, I'm taking the bagel, the fruit salad and one crumb cake. That's how I'm starting. And then there's going to be a secondary dessert plate with maybe a piece. I'm probably going to break off a piece of one of the big cookies. You're breaking off the cookie. I'm breaking off a piece of the cookie, 100%. Just take the whole cookie. They only had a few of them, and they were big. Where are you going, Dip? I would – I mean this is going to be a wild move.
16:01I'd also – if you had gone before me in the line, I would – there would be no everything. So I would probably take what appears to be maybe that's an everything, but it would probably be the poppy seed. I can't believe I'm saying this, but probably the poppy seed. Actually, you know what? I kind of missed that poppy seed. We can reverse this. I would have taken the poppy and you can have the everything. Okay. Then fine. I'll have the everything. I do a big swath of cream cheese on it. Then what I'm probably doing, I got to say, I'm probably taking a nice, sizable portion of the kippered salmon and I'm flaking it off on the side of the bagel and then sprinkling it on the cream cheese.
16:45And if I'm feeling really, you know, Randy, I'm taking a little piece of sable on the side and maybe cutting it up and eating it by itself. I got news for you at SUG. This is a real live Ashkenazic Jewish man in the flesh. That's who you're talking to over there. I'm not even skipping. I'm skipping the lox. The lox is amateur hour. I'm going right for the kippert salmon. And SUG, my Gentile friend, what are you doing here? Yeah. So I got a shot on that. The cinnamon bagel with the butter. Listen. And the Swedish fish. If this was definitely the Swedish fish. Definitely the Swedish fish. And if this were two years ago, I would be doing the bagel with the butter.
17:30But at Zach Linder's 40th birthday party, which is way too late, in my opinion, my eyes were open to the glory of bagel with cream cheese and lox. So I'm going to take that top half of that plain bagel. Oh, my God. We accept you. Cream and lox with the cream cheese. Thank you. There's a little pastry that caught my eye on the pastry plate on the first. It's the one. It's like powder dusted. It's kind of two-tone. That's the crumb cake. Is that one of the crumb cakes? I'm taking one of those. I'm taking one of those for sure. I'm definitely hitting the next table, the dessert table. Let's just be real.
18:09The lion's share of the Swedish fish is coming home with me. I'm not going to take it all. He's going in his pockets? He's going in his pockets? No, it's going right on the plate. He's pocketing the Swedish fish. It's going right on the plate. I don't care about the judgment. I'm loud and proud with it. The lion's share of the Swedish fish is coming home with me. and then depending on how it goes there might be a double back I might double back for that blueberry fruit tart oh wow little red velvet it's crazy behavior I gotta tell you everything by the way I'm there all day you know paying respects I might have the appetite for a double back now if you want to say last thing about the Shiva plate that one plate they have in the middle with the desserts that the cookies are on everything there looks great all of the chocolate stuff on that plate looks fantastic So anyways, I got to meet Barry's sister, Lori, and his daughter, Casey, and other friends and family that he had gathered.
19:09His best friend, Richard, Richard Cohen. Okay, that is Barry's best friend going back to high school. Yeah. and he told me a story about them going to see wrestling in Queens as teenagers and it was at like a racetrack and I'm sorry that I'm not getting the exact details right but they went to a racetrack where they were at the time you know WWF I guess was running at the time and And they wandered around and they found themselves sort of behind the scenes. And, dude, this story. And there is a bowl of Swedish fish. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. This story to me blew my mind because I never heard this.
20:05But to me, it's informative of everything Barry went on to become. Okay. They wandered around. They ended up behind the scenes. And they ended up seeing Gorilla Monsoon. Wow. And Bruno San Martino playing cards together on the same night that they were main eventing the show against each other. No. And like how they're young and they are teenagers were blown and their minds were blown. I mean, we'll think about what Barry ended up doing. Like, think about what his life was a fascination with these people that appear to be one thing but are actually another. Right. Like that's that was kind of when you watch Beyond the Mat, like what his whole thing was.
20:43So what an amazing moment to have gotten to hear from Richard Cohen. Like, whoa, what a great story. It's a great Richard. It's a great Richard Cohen story. And by the way, Richard Cohen's energy was very Barry Blaston. I see how they were. I see how they were friends. His daughter, his daughter is super cool. We discussed doing this screening of Beyond the Mat. We're looking at hopefully early July as a time to do it here in New York. It's going to be a lot of fun. Barry Bloom is going to come. of course, his longtime friend and a producer on Beyond the Mat. I know, Dipristine, you're going to try to come.
21:18Mick Foley is going to come. I'm going to invite MJF. I'm going to invite people that are around here, just the wrestling luminaries to come out. And a couple of people spoke, and there was a conversation about the things that he made. And I noticed that they were sort of you know, joking around about his success to some degree, like, oh, who knew he was like so famous, right? It reminded me of exactly how, if God forbid I were gone, how I would be sort of mocked by my family. Like they love you, but they're like, oh, he's a big deal. I guess he's a big deal. So these are all 70 year old people.
21:57So, you know, at this point, like different people were speaking. So I said, I said, I'd like, I just like to weigh in on one thing as someone who's 46 years old, I was like, I was like, I think you guys were also close to Barry's work. It's important that I drive home to you. How culturally impactful coming to America, Boomerang and Nutty Professor. Like I was like, if you were to talk to anyone between the ages of like 30 and 60 and say, what's the greatest comedy of all time? There's a better chance than not. They're saying coming to America. We're talking about literally the greatest comedy potentially of all time.
22:31and then Boomerang was the first movie of its kind with an all-black cast where every person of power was black in that movie. Like, it did things that no other movie's ever done, right? And by the way, at that point, I shouldn't say this, but I'm going to. It was so funny. At that point, some elder cocker in the family goes, he loved black people. We loved them back. That's funny. I think everybody loved him. We loved them back. So, so, so I'm talking about how impactful is, and I'm like, the lines in these movies are ubiquitous. I was like, coming to America is quoted so often, and Nutty Professor is quoted so often, you don't even know when it's being quoted.
23:14And then Casey, his daughter, weighed in and said, she said, this is, to me, this is the best tidbit of all time. when he was making Coming to America, he called her poppy, Casey's grandfather, Barry's father, and said, how would an old Jew compliment another person's clothing? And poppy went, what is this, velvet? No. Can I tell you? And that line is forever. It's ubiquitous. It's part of America. Coming to America, you mentioned the people quoting it without even realizing they quote it. the one that jumps out to me is his mama called him blank. I'm a call him blank. Correct. That's a great last week.
24:02His mama call his mama call him clay. I'm a call him clay is the most, but you replace it with anything time. Yeah. Especially like when wrestling with somebody's name changes, you see it all the time. Like, like when Gunter was switched from Walter, that was a tweet that went out. His mama called him Walter. I'm a call him Walter. What is this? velvet is there obviously a professor you have things like hercules um the in in a blue natalie was reminding me that during covid when people were yelling out their windows everyone everyone brought back the the the fuck you too like all of that stuff is just so a part of a part of forever and i spoke to barry blue yesterday and i was asking barry some about the movie and um i hope to do a roundtable when we do the viewing of the movie to get more but barry told me that blaustein went to wcw first wcw decided they weren't interested so they decided to try to go to uh wwf and we're not having essentially they didn't know if they'd have any luck and when Barry Blaustein went to Ron Howard at Imagine, who he'd done all this stuff with previously, and told him about it, Ron Howard happened to be neighbors with Vince in Connecticut and walked over to his house and basically pitched him on it.
25:31And that's how they got the access that were like, how did they get the access? The access was Ron Howard talking to Vince McMahon. Yeah, that's crazy. Listen, when Opie shows up and says, look we need whatever it is that's um that's an extraordinary fact that's an extraordinary fact from barry bloom right yep um so i i and casey is is like close to my age so she was like very aware of all beyond the mat and it's happening so like she has stories and memories galore so i'm just fascinated by the whole thing want to get more and we just wanted to honor barry blaustein one more time here and uh hopefully you guys who are listening if you're in the new york area when we announce tickets are able to come to our beyond the mat screening and celebration for barry it's going to be a lot of fun all right let's take our first break come back uh speaking of comeback uh brock lesnar oh okay let's break that down as well as much more right here on cheap heat live pro wrestling nation 24 7 promotional consideration paid for by the following new world wrestling federation superstars cookies from solano great tasting cookies in 10 fun to eat WWF Wrestling Shapes.
26:40Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Cheap Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. We are, let's see, we're a week out from Clash in Italy. We're a couple days out from a Saturday Night's Main Event. We'll get to all of that. Gotta tell you guys, I did not have a returning Brock Lesnar on my bingo card for this week. SUG, were you surprised by the return of Brock to attack Obafemi. I was surprised that it happened this week, but not surprised that it happened because I told you all, I said, fuck the boots. I don't care that he took off the gloves. He is not retired. He's coming back. And y 'all called me everything but a child of God.
27:25He cried. He hugged Paul Heyman. He hugged the biggest liar in the industry that we know of, at least on camera. That's a really good point by you. That's your proof. that the biggest manipulator in pro wrestling history is walking around saying that he's retired that wasn't good enough for me and apparently losing to oba wasn't good enough for brock because he snuck him from behind in the dark and i guess we're gonna get that rematch at clash because it wasn't announced for saturday night's main event which is um which is tomorrow so unless they unless they stretch this out to like for the summer you know they they are though right because SummerSlam's in Minnesota that was an easy spot for Brock to retire at if people were saying he's going to retire this year so I think we were definitely going to see him at SummerSlam in Minnesota so they probably are going to stretch us out for the summertime.
28:21I guess my feeling on it is listen if they can make it awesome, great I'm all here for it. The only reason I was shocked by it was not sort of the kayfabe reasoning that SUG gave which is good logic but was just for me that it was so good at WrestleMania. Like you and I were watching that together and it was just like, so good. It felt like that was it. Like, it just felt like, how could it be better than that? I guess you could make the argument if he still got gas in the tank, that as good as it was, it was early. I would just say like for all, you know, for all we say about, you know, wanting like something unexpected on TV.
28:59I absolutely like, I thought he was just going to come out and beat somebody else, you know, oba but instead you got something shocking yep which is what we all asked for what we all love about wrestling and they did they did deliver on that and i'm happy that it happened on just like a not a random raw but just you know a random raw we're a random raw weekly tv it's nice to see a big surprise uh that's a great great point totally agree with you love getting just something good that happens on tv and it is a legitimate surprise also oba femi versus brock lesnar is like the you know it's like the match of our dreams you know it's like two gargantz people who you know the emerging mega star and the legendary mega star and they're you know it's like it's like a perfect it's perfect can i can i also add one more one more thing i that i i think to be true i don't think they know exactly where else to go with obafemi right now but this is the perfect place to be.
30:00I don't know where else to go. I agree. I agree. But I will say, this is better than what we were getting. I was over the Open Challenge. Oba, you are not a champion, and you are not a championship. And you are a rookie. I'm sorry. The Obafemi Open Challenge, we need to make this... The prestige, it's not there. And then, even less so, that you were beaten up you the we saw him beat up tozawa otis uh he went to the back to drag the garzas and then beat them up while they were in their street clothes that wasn't you're not exactly padding your resume with this no the only the only thing that hit of all those things was the otis spot that was the only thing that hit of all of it and how many times can you do stuff like that i would assume that they were doing it to build up to brock like they were i was they were i think they were using a couple of weeks worth of schmageggery to get to the lesnar surprise so it could totally be that and it could also totally be and we know this that they weren't sure where it was going and hayman called them what brock wants to come back like it could be either one you really we don't know and that's the because i think if brock wasn't coming back i think racking your brain on exactly where you go with obafemi right now to make it compelling is is tough i I don't know where else you're going besides that.
31:28So I do think for right now, if they decide to make this a back and forth thing, clash, and then you have SummerSlam in Minneapolis, August 1st. You have Night of Champions before that, though. Don't forget it in Saudi Arabia. But they're not going to use, but the thing is, we are not going to do the Night of Champions. And they're not using everybody everywhere. You know, like these cards have five matches. Like, have we, let's take a look real quick. This is interesting. How full is the Clash in Italy card? Well, it's Triple H, right? It's the Polavesque era. So we're getting five matches. I don't know where it's at right now, but I'm expecting five matches.
32:08It's Cody, Gunther. Yep. It's Roman and Jacob, Tribal Combat. Yep. That's it. We assume there'll be other things to add. And then let me check the Saturday Night's Main Event card. that is a pentha and ethan page uh for the ic that is the vision versus the street profits for the tag team titles love seeing the street profits being a meaningful thing um the way they got there was kind of weird but we're here now um ria charlotte and alexa versus jade me chin and b fab in a very saturday night's main event like six women tag match Becky Lynch versus Saul Ruka in a singles match it doesn't say it's for the title is that not for the title it just says singles match I think it is just singles match and she didn't put the IC title on the line every bum off the street just can't get a Becky Lynch championship match not saying that Saul Ruka is but I'm saying if you want to breathe that rarefied air at the tippy tippy top you gotta prove yourself a little bit more than just a couple of soul snatches here and there on some Mondays.
33:20Paige and Bree versus the Irresistible Forces for the Women's Tag Team Championship. And I will say, SUG, we all know what Sol Ruka's potential is, and this is an interesting time where a lot of people are getting pushed up quickly. I don't know if the spot I love Sol Ruka in is on the mic across the ring from Becky Lynch. I don't know that that's the spot I want her in at this exact moment. Me personally. You don't want Sol there? No. I think that Becky Lynch, I think if you want to get in a promo battle with Becky Lynch, AJ was fine. More than fine. AJ can absolutely hold her own on the microphone.
33:55She knows, which is actually pretty impressive when you can think about how long AJ was gone. But to just hand someone a microphone and go, hey, have a promo battle on Raw with Becky. Like, Soul physically looks the part in every way, and obviously everyone loves the Soul Snatcher. You cannot forget, she just got up like two seconds ago. Yeah. And I just thought you saw a glaring difference between Becky Lynch and Sol Ruka in that promo on Monday. I don't think I'm saying anything out of school or crazy to have had that feeling. But this will be a really big spot for Sol Ruka to have a great match against Becky Lynch at Saturday Night's Main Event.
34:33So we go over. We have two matches set for Clash. You have the five that we just gave for Saturday Night's Main Event. That means there's three more slots for Clash. I'm guessing Seth and Braun again? Yeah. I wouldn't mind that. I mean, right? But it doesn't seem that that's over to me. That's where Seth is right now. Yeah. They're doing the Vision tag titles on Saturday Night's Main Event, so I don't really see them having a big spot a week later at Clash. Maybe Oberbrock? Yeah. I feel like Oberbrock is definitely an Italy match. You think that's definitely an Italy? Okay. Yeah. so let's say let's say Oberbrock for sure yeah but where else do they um where else do they fill out the card I'm dying to go to Italy by the way what what a perfect reason I've never been there what a perfect reason so why don't you go I can't I mean oh you don't want it bad enough then that's why I'm hearing again uh I would take it before Czechoslovakia right I still I still I can't even get myself to the beach 20 minutes from the home so but you don't like the beat but the thing is you don't like the beach the the beauty of of italy for you let's just just hear me out for a moment okay okay and granted we're going to italy for a week we're doing we're going friday going italy everyone's in italy italy's a mage everyone i know is in it going to italy this year oh really oh i think italy's the new uh the new uh cabo or whatever people do well Hold on.
36:09This is – Really? Italy's the new Amalfi Coast. Whatever. I think it is the Amalfi Coast. It is the Amalfi Coast. What's the Amalfi Coast? Hold on. What's the place that people were going? Cabo. No, it was Cabo. No, the place – Oh, Santorini? You talking about Greece? Oh, Santorini's big. Santorini's big. Oh, people love Santorini. Oh, people are loving Santorini. We love Santorini, folks. but but this is but but you specifically know people going to italy because the big part of the company of which you represent many people are all going to italy no no i'm talking about other friends in in hollywood that i'm friends are just going on vacation with their families that's it'll this is the year of italy well listen if you were to find out if you were to find out that you had other reasons beside peter rosenberg doing the countdown show to go to italy why not use it as a reason it's a business reason to go to italy and unlike the beach, which you have no interest in.
37:07No. You go to Florence and you wander around. You make your phone calls like you still do every other day anyway. You eat delicious food at every meal and you see what Italy is all about. I mean, enjoy yourself for God's sake. Do you think I could go to Italy and not take one picture of pasta? You think that's possible? You could. Yeah. I know my wife can't. Yeah, it's very easy to take. There's going to be a lot of interest. there's going to be tons of Instagram pasta, Instagrams this year. I can smell, I could smell the pasta through the phone. It's this and that sauce. I can't digest. I know, no, but here's the other part that you don't really know because you don't travel respectfully.
37:48And you're going to, and you're going to think this is a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But S U G will know I'm telling the truth. The incredible thing is you go to Italy and you eat like a pig and you never feel disgusting, get sick or even really gain weight. Yeah. Because their food is not pure crap. It is. It's remarkable. I have a friend. And eat and eat and be fine. I have a friend who has a gluten allergy. She is gluten free in the United States. And she goes to France and have croissants like it's nothing. No, no issues. No problem. That is fascinating. That's fascinating. When is this clash in the Italy?
38:25Something here. No, it's here. It's here, dude. A problem. Don't get Natalie started. Oh, my God. She'll start. going down the rabbit hole. I've been telling people when I go to Europe, one of the places that I always eat, no matter what country it is, is McDonald's because the food is so much better than the McDonald's here. That is an interesting one. The fast food there is fascinating. The hamburgers at McDonald's that actually tastes like a hamburger is crazy. It explains why they come here and they want McDonald's. I'm like, no, you don't want this. Trust me, but I'm not going. You're not.
39:03It's a it's it's the event is a week from this Sunday. I'll be I'm going to be in Florida. Italy. Eating eating kippered salmon and with a side of sable. And I don't see myself walking through the streets of Florence two days later. It's not it's unlikely. Well, we are doing we're going to leave a week from today. We're going to get we're going to fly into Milan. then we're going to take a 40 minute train ride to torren we're going to do it's fashion week milan fashion week no it's not is it i have no idea it's always fashion week every single it's always i believe i believe dip see that's why that's why i believe it's new york fashion week it's milan fashion it never ends it's paris fashion week um and then we're going to do torrent for the show and then we're going to do florence for a few and then room for a few and then we're and then we're back but i gotta tell you dip one day you should go on a vacation yeah and i'm gonna wear i think when i'm traveling i'm gonna wear this beautiful new uh long sleeve undertaker roots of fight team to show the people in italy just i gotta get i do it i'm not gonna be shameless enough to to ask roots of flight roots of fight to send me a package but i am looking at some of that uh that gear it does feel like that's what you're doing no no i'm not I'm not doing that.
40:22If they want to send me a package, I will. But if they don't, then I'm probably still going to jump in and buy it because it does look mage. All right. So we are going to get tribal combat between Roman Reigns and Jacob Fatu. What did you think about Monday night and us getting here? And SGG, I'll ask the question again. Any chance for Jacob Fatu? or are we just stretching this out one more for the tribal chief till we figure out what's next i think jacob fatu has i said it last time and i'll say it again i think jacob fatu has a chance and not only that i think he should be champion this is crazy sgg are you turning on your tribal chief no i'm not no i'm not listen i'm shocked the the royal family in wrestling there's not just one there's not just one there's not just one but there is one at the top and then i don't mind them spreading around these world titles them building these accolades for everybody roman's place is solidified he's in the conversation for greatest of all time period which means that his place in the family is equally secure jacob fatu being somebody that They can turn two for the future.
41:41It's not a bad look. If Roman ever decides he wants to pull a Dwayne The Rock Johnson and focus more on Hollywood than wrestling, the family spot will be very good in Jacob's Fatu's hands and even better if they set it up this way. I respect what SGG is saying, Deb, because I'm sorry. We just have so many, respectfully, there are so many mark-a-doodle-doos right now who like literally talk about wrestling in a way where they can't ever deal with like Roman Reigns losing the title, Cody Rhodes turning heel. All of these things are just like, no, no, it can only be this way. Roman must have the title and Cody must be a baby face.
42:23That is the only way wrestling works. The reason we love these people is because of the story driven, the story first philosophy that WWE has had the whole time, right? It's why we loved Hogan. It's why I love Brett. It's why I like Roman. That's why I love Roman. It's the story first. So sometimes you have to strategically place these wins and losses and transfer the titles in service of the story. And if this story demands Jacob Fatu getting the title, then I'm going to go there with the story because I have to at least see how it plays out and then decide if I love it or hate it. But I'm open to the idea of, for the story, this title bouncing around between Roman and Jacob.
43:11Dip, where are you at with this? I think if Jacob loses, which presumably he will, I'm not sure where you go. I mean, I think everybody watching this feud has seen that Jacob is a star. More so now than ever. And that's great. But I think to really solidify that he is a top-of-the-card main event guy, to me, he needs to win. Even if it's by disqualification. Even if it's in the schmaz. I think Jacob's hand needs to be raised at the end of the match by any means necessary to sort of just give him a little bit more of a rub. Because if he loses straight up, if he gets pinned, one, two, three, he's now lost twice.
43:56and it's like i know this isn't you know it's not ufc he can always we can always figure out a way for jacob to seem stronger but at the end of the day it's like where do you go from here with jacob twice clean i gotta tell you i i love what you just said uh that i it really is true that like if he gets pinned again off of a spear you're effectively killing the idea that this guy's unbeatable and they maybe they maybe they set the tone you know i thought they really i talked about this last week that i thought they really downplayed the fact that roman removed the turnbuckle and used the revealed turnbuckle to the steel to to take out jacob maybe that was setting up that roman is desperate and will do anything and and sgg maybe that does result in like a DQ.
44:49Although in tribal combat, is there any DQ? No, no. And that's the thing. And there's no schmazz to end it. So Roman taking off the turnbuckle in tribal combat, not only is it legal, but Jacob sees it coming and Jacob can do it too. And honestly, those little layers that add to him being dangerous, it's what you want. I don't think a loss will kill Jacob like Dip or like most people, but I do think a win serves him more than a loss. yeah i i guess you're right it's a really good point sug with the tribal combat it's going to be hard for them to get any sort of way around a finish yeah and although although although although we're stupid though because what it also does though is it allows roman to win in so many other ways that are not clean off a spear so it may be that he like you know practically has to beat the guy to death and that the usos come out and that they do a million things to beat him down and win and how tribal combat supposedly nobody's allowed to come out which is different than a bloodline rules match in which anybody hold on it's true tribal combat is one-on-one no interference where do you where do you find the tribal combat rule book the tribal combat tribal combat is only between family members so that's what's different that's one way to differentiate from a bloodline rules because bloodline rules could be anybody outside of the family.
46:16Other than that, it's the same thing. No DQ. Yada, yada, yada. I'm looking up tribal combat. Nobody is allowed to interfere in a tribal combat. It has to be one-on-one. No experience, no nothing. But that's not what the whole idea is. The whole idea is that it's just one continuous schmazola. Right? The way it's listed on Wikipedia is Tribal Combat sends you to the match stip page, and it's listed under no disqualification matches. It says a no disqualification match, also known as a no holds barred match, or sometimes in anything goes match, an extreme rules match, or Tribal Combat and Bloodline Rules in WWE for wrestlers and the Anoayi family, is a match in which neither wrestler can be disqualified, allowing for weapons and outside interference.
47:15There's no outside interference in the tribal combat. You're sure? Positive. Because when Jay first challenged him to a tribal combat, that was the story. That was the step. Nobody, like me and you, one-on-one, no games. And when he fought solo in a tribal combat, also, there was no interference. guys got the some of the matches on this page guys do you think they should have a taipei death match yeah yeah that's right what about what about a nail hell death match as was done in december 94 in iwa i don't know what that is but i'm i would like to see it nail hell it's a hardcore match where some boards with nails were hung on the ring ropes all the way across and onto opposing sides of the ring there was a board on one side there was nails and the other side barbed wire only one match like this was done in december 94 by iwa japan yeah they don't need they don't need anymore um double or nothing is this sunday in new york what are you smiling about tip what's going on you watching any good old wrestling over there no no you on ebay buying uh buying some items i mean what's going on i i i haven't bought something on ebay in a long time i think it's time i i find an original ultimate warrior tassel on there is that what you're looking for yeah vintage ultimate warrior i'm gonna just look for the most i'm gonna look right now i'm gonna search for dip the most expensive vintage ultimate warrior item there is are you are you do you want to hear what it is yeah all right sort here we go highest price first okay oh my god why is this people are in sync what's happening well no there are a bunch of people who are listing these um tick perfectly conditioned ticket stubbed for for for twenty thousand dollars i don't understand all right so how about this um wwf rare oil paintings no that's oh that has watchers though.
49:23Vintage WWF Ultimate Warrior Slim Gym Cardboard Store Display Graded 75 Plus. They want $1 ,200. Reasonable. Must be on sale.
49:44I'm going to look for something. A Vintage Ultimate Warrior Wrestling a year sealed Hasbro $8.99 $9.99 $91 Hasbro Ultimate Warrior sealed$8.39 $8.39 Yep Another Slim Jim store display a really big one dip you get for your home only$550 I like the idea of the Slim Jim display can you send it to me can you text it to me please do you actually like it yeah yeah is it like a 90 or an 80 is it like a 90 it says 90s looking at it to me oh yeah i'll tell you straight up no no i'll tell you i'll tell you the year based on his hairdo based on his paint it's it's it's got to be 90 right there yeah because the slim jim 90 or 90 oh here we go how long did he have slim jim they took it away from macho let me see it i'm sending hold on calm down don't yell at me i can't wait to see it all right there it is i just i just sent you the ultimate warrior slim jim uh in-store display okay
50:59um this is late 90 late 90 okay not the late 90s late 90 late 90 early 91 at the at the latest i didn't know he had slim jim yeah i don't i don't even remember that he had slim jim this is awesome i'm disgusted by it honestly how big is this do you think pretty big smaller you yeah well that doesn't say very much but but it is i mean it was a display in a store it's a good size well i see the toy the toy chest that i have is uh selling for 800 on here and it's just as beat up as mine but does it have any watchers like is anyone actually doing it no no one's bidding no that's what you gotta think about right what what about oh you have this too vintage 1991 uh wwf storage crate cube isn't that what that's what i'm talking about oh i see one for 249 and now i see one for 150 and it comes with the hulk hogan sleeping bag what do you think of that i have the hulk hogan sleeping bag as well I'll tell you what I see here that's pretty good wow a beautiful conditioned XL Ultimate Challenge WrestleMania 6T and it's only starting at$280 which is a great price that purple one was pretty was not super common look at this an original poster of the Survivor Series 89 or 87 oh god can you send it is it worth is this beautiful oh no he's getting he's he's getting emotional folks um you know my 90s i mean my my one of my prized possessions is the 1990 poster that i framed in a beautiful regal gold poster that's sitting in one of my guest rooms yeah i think i i think i'm going to speak on behalf of your your uh your parents or perhaps a future spouse i think one is fine i don't know what that what's going to happen one day when that happens i i i in fact i'm I'm thinking about going wild and actually finally taking all my gigantic collection out of the garage and putting it and making the shrine in that bedroom and really just doing it like making.
53:13Like just be the loser that you are. Yeah. I'm thinking of going full loser. I think you should. What's the point of keeping downstairs? Why hide your loser in the. Yeah, don't be ashamed. By the way, by the way, I also have like thousands of magic cards that I didn't realize I had. I have to go find them. Apparently magic cards are worth a gargantuan amount of money right now. Why do you have those? I was a huge magic guy. Huge. I collected wrestling, magic cards, crazy bones, pogs, baseball cards, Ninja Turtles. I was a big collector. I don't really throw me off. The magic feels like one of these things is not like the other.
53:54When I was magic, I think I've been playing magic. I played it in like the mid-90s when it first started, and it was a huge deal. All my friends had Magic cards. We all played them. I don't even know what you're talking about. Really? Magic the Gathering? Magic the Gathering, yeah. That's crazy that you don't know. You just missed it. That's why. No idea what you're even saying right now. It's a card game. It's like a kind of a fantasy card game that's an extremely popular, massive billion-dollar business. Billion-dollar business, you said? I didn't know Dip was in on this. Yeah. I didn't know this was a thing You know what though I do think you should contain Like how many loserish things You put in the house Yeah the magic you might have to just offload those See what you can get The wrestling has to stay because unfortunately I do this podcast and it's part of Part of your whole thing The magic might need to go I think I got so much shit That's not as good a thing As you think it is The Ninja Turtles can stay also.
54:57The Magic, though, is definitely like... I mean, it sounds like Dungeons & Dragons of J's. Yeah. It is. I'm going to tell you another thing that's crazy that's worth money these days. These posters that came in the magazines in mint condition are worth a fortune of money. So which magazines? The WWF magazines. like the big posters in the center of brett and powers of pain and you know rockers and like all the all the posters from that era if they're in mint condition they're worth a fortune of money how do you know that they're worth a fortune because i look at them i look i see yeah but when you see here's the thing that makes you respectfully a moron when is that on ebay if it It doesn't have bids or watchers at least.
55:48I know. I know. Some of these things that people just listed, it's all wishful. I will tell you guys, though, to the peckerheads, I did celebrate Barry Blaustein by finding a vintage Beyond the Mat poster. You did say that. I'd love to see that if you have a picture of it. Yeah, there's one. There's still some on eBay. It's beautiful. and oh and there's a very important piece of the conversation from the Shiva that I forgot to share with you guys that I need to oh what's this did I mess up here
56:27Oh, I may have to get this instead. Oh, boy. I found, it says, Beyond the Mat Wrestling Poster, signed Terry Funk and Barry Blaustein. Oh. Because then if I were to get this one, I could still get it signed by The Rock and Mick. And this one has Noel on it, too. Oh, I think I might have to buy this, guys. I'm going to have to show Natalie. I ordered one this is a different one what size is this you need your wife to okay this Fakakta purchase she needs to approve everything she approving all purchases no no I approve more purchases than she does she comes to me because she is such a Nebuchadnezzar who is so she worries about spending money on everything so she goes oh can I spend$30 on a new outfit for Maya and I'm like yeah babe I think she's asking you$30 outfits.
57:24She, she is wrestling with$30. This is the wife of the cinch that you have found here. I mean, that is what based on what you're hearing of what's going on out here. This is based on society at large. The fact that your wife is coming up to you and saying, can I spend$30 on something and getting your approval? That is something for our adorable. Do not ruin this marriage. This is the one. You have found the one. I know. I really can't mess this up. It does appear that Terry Funk signed all over Mick Foley, but it's next to Terry's head. I'm going to send you guys this. I might need this. Let me, let me, let me.
58:07I should be approving your purchases. That's hilarious. So this one is messed up. This one is messed up a little bit around the side, but I'm going to show it to you guys. By the way, guys, there are a lot of people who do a lot of nerdy things on this channel. what we're doing right now. I'm proud of the dirtiness that we're doing. We went straight to the top. I'm proud of us. I'm going to seek your approval on one more thing. Should I buy this 1997 King of the Ring inflatable wrestling chair? Is that a real thing? What's the weight capacity on it? It probably weighs nothing. I've seen it a bunch of times.
58:39Can you sit in it? Yeah, of course. Me? I can. I don't know about you. No, I'm out. I'm going to stand next to it like Stone Cold. Yeah, I know. Let me answer for Greg. He can't. No. It's too much. That would be a cheap pop if you ever heard one. Literally. Wow, well done. That would be the definition of a cheap pop. So listen to this, guys. So at some point, someone else was speaking at Barry Blaustein, the great director of Beyond the Mat. They were speaking at Eshiva, and someone said, you know, they were saying, like all, Dipperstein, I know you'll love this. They didn't say this part, I'm adding the line, like all great Jews, but like all great Jews.
59:18They were saying how he's like not religious at all. He did not have much use for organized religion. He was culturally Jewish, but did not care about prayers and whatnot. Right. Sounds like my kind of guy. But listen, this is so crazy. But I think it was his brother. Who was it who said this? His sister-in-law goes. But over the last few years, he did start using like Jewish words that he never used to use. And I went, I jumped in, and I go, out of curiosity, what words? What's an example of a word he was using that he wouldn't have used before? And she goes, Mishigas.
1:00:08And I said, that is from the podcast. Mishigas gets thrown around quite a bit. I don't want to take too much credit but it sounded like Barry was enjoying some of the Yiddish phrasings and stylings of Cheap Heat. Rest in peace, Barry Blastin. Oh, so, Dip, did you you think I should get that, S-U-G? Is the side of the poster too damaged?
1:00:36And also, I'm trying to gauge whether it's a full-size poster. This is a great question. I'll ask it to the Cheap Heat universe and I'll ask it to you both right now before we get into double or nothing all the other things of the week that was in pro wrestling yeah you should get this yeah i don't think this has two damage yeah sorry what did you say what do you think is your most prized wrestling possession i mean i have every ljn i mean not in the package but i have every single one um but i just but you have one thing where if like something happened to one you'd go oh this is irreplaceable or tough tough really tough to replace my most prized possession wrestling actually overall most prized i mean i got i got a lot of ring worn mjf stuff um yeah but that can't count i mean it's vintage um my diesel pog mat by the way another thing i completely missed we've talked about that pogs no idea you don't know what pog is i i have heard you guys talk about them i don't really know what it is again i don't remember we it's such interesting like like the trends and things that when i was you're 46 i'm 38 so there's there's there was enough of a year yeah eight Eight years is a long time for things to change.
1:02:03SGG, what are pogs? They were like you slammed them, right? Then you flipped them. Depending on how they flip, you get points. I never played it, but I've seen people. I've seen it. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Were you guys down with slap bracelets? I caught the tail end of the slap bracelet. Yeah. I caught the tail end. You caught the tail end? All right. Slap bracelets were a moment in time, bro. everyone wanted a slap bracelet yeah oh boy you slapped it on your wrist oh yeah my grandmother had them and i used to play with them and they were oh yeah people what uh what um i can't what is your most probably i mean that probably the bret hart glasses well no i found out they're fake right i found out they're not the real deal at least they're not what they're not from the screw job they're not from the screw job there's something there's they're signed bret hart glasses but they're not what i thought they were that's my answer though i have signed bret hart glasses which I think he sells them on his site too so they're not exactly irreplaceable but where'd you get them from?
1:03:03they were a gift so Tiger met Brett and he got the glasses signed and then he gave them to me let's be honest, he's one of the great Tigers he is Tony the Tiger no, SGG's Tiger Tiger is one of the great Tigers oh yeah, he's on the Mount Rushmore I mean there's other great Tigers Tiger Woods Tiger Woods. You're Tiger. And I got to tell you, Tiger Woods hasn't been a great run recently. They're both going opposite directions right now. He did what he had to do to get etched, so he's etched. But it's like you said, lately it's not a great run for Tiger Woods. I will tell you, the Mania 3 poster behind me is not like I could never find it again, but it's not easy.
1:03:48like this this original the original black and white promo poster for mania 3 is up there for me i adore it um i have many shirts that i you know to me they feel like they're replaceable but they're not like i love my saturday night's main event shirt i love my texas tornado shirt like these ones that i really wanted forever that i hold in the highest like but um i have that belt signed by Brett and Sean, but it's the wrong belt. I gotta get this belt signed by Roman. It has his side plates on it. It's the blue universal joint. I need that signed by him one day. And that might jump the glasses.
1:04:28That might jump the glasses if I get that signed by Roman. God, look at this thing. I have to send you this. What else are you saying? This is a Mania 4 poster that is absolutely stunning. Let me see it. Let me see if I agree. I want to see if I agree. The tournament is underrated Mania. That I agree with. I actually really... The ornament does not get enough love, and this is a beautiful poster. The frame does not fit the poster, but it's awful. But this is where Dip and I differ on what we consider beautiful items. This is my pug. Oh my god. This is mage and repug. It's my pug. This is classic and beautiful and my wife is fine with it being in the living room.
1:05:15No wife. Unless you meet your wife in a psychiatric ward, she is not allowing you to put that Wrestlemania 4 poster up in the house. Like, for example, the famous the one that, obviously the incredible poster that Ted sold to Bad Bunny. That's a different story. The rumble print is gorgeous. But even that whole look was insane. Like, there are some that look you can pull off. I don't think that Mania 4 that you sent is Did I tell you what I bought last weekend? No, please share with us. I went to an art show last weekend. Well, he loves art shows, folks. I do. I went to an art show and I bought a painting of Morgan Freeman.
1:05:57You bought a painting of Morgan Freeman? Yes, I did. I did. And it's on my wall right now. It was beautiful. I saw this thing out of the corner of my eye and I walked towards it and I said, I don't care what this costs. I have to have this in my house. It's so mage. I gotta tell you guys I need to see this I mean it was expensive and it's very cool and it's a clay it's carved his face in insane detail is carved out of clay and then painted it's gorgeous it's a beautiful item it's in my bathroom is it you already put it up? yeah yeah he said it's he said it's on display in his house right now I don't know where I'm at right now it's in the bathroom in a beautiful it's like beautiful art you guys want to see a mage?
1:06:44You want to see a mage poster that splits the difference between what I like and what dip likes check out what I just sent to the, to the chat. Now, this is an item and an important event for me. It's mania three of J's in terms of how big it was. Like as a kid, how big a deal I thought it was. It's very nice. Oh, the match made in heaven and hell. Is that this one? This is, this is, but this is just my pug. This is, this is equally in my pug. This is 90. No, No, the graphics on yours, Dip, it looks like it's done by the graphics people at Fox News. Like, it's just ugly. The picture of Andre is terrifying.
1:07:28Like, I think the one that I sent for SummerSlam 92, just a little bit cleaner. I'm going to go with Dip. I'm going to say equal, equal, mypuggery. No, I can't believe you think that, SGG. I think you think you know people. I'm going to go equal, mypuggery. You don't see that the design of Dips is uglier the actual design look at rick rude he's he's gorgeous in this in this uh in my poster look at rick rude in that there's no denying it the man is the man is handsome a thousand percent um why i'm giving it equal mpuggery though is because the the wrestlemania 3 one that's just behind you has i feel like a great artistic value that you can appreciate just as like an art piece if you know nothing about wrestling.
1:08:08And the other two are very much falling squarely in the box of wrestling posters slash advertisements for a show. Well, I got news for you guys. The seller that I just sent you that poster from, his other items are, whoa. Bad Bath and Beyond. There is a lot going on in this guy's house. Let me tell you. Oh, wow. Let's check it out Now something we didn't shout out amongst Prized possessions The cheap heat socks Are also As one of my most prized You know what I still have some of those cheap heat socks That I need to give away I have a box They have the tops game I haven't seen this since I haven't seen this since I was a child Oh my god The tops game The tops, like with the ring.
1:09:06This guy's collection is nuts. Yeah. So you guys can respond to us on Twitter, on Instagram. DM us. Call 877-344-4893, your most prized wrestling possessions. Just a random aside of pure wrestling nerdery. Next, let's come back and actually properly preview Double or Nothing right here on G.P. Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Marvel Comics number one tough guy, the Punisher, explodes onto Game Boy in the ultimate payback, nonstop shoot-em-up arcade action, and a special appearance by Spider-Man from acclaim. Welcome back to Chief Heat Live Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7.
1:09:49Shout out to Kelly, the Hellfenator, of course, Big Emilio Sparks, the entire Eddie, the boss man, everybody and all the powers that be the powers of pain if you will at Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 I wonder who which of these nerdy wrestling fans from Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 will find their way into Double or Nothing this weekend it is going down at Louis Armstrong Stadium in Queens and we know now Mick Foley will be a part of it as they announced that Mick Foley will be co-hosting the buy-in with Renee Paquette so Guys, is that Mick's first AEW anything? It is, right? I'm not sure. I mean, it's his first official thing, it feels like.
1:10:37Right? Yeah. I thought he made an appearance before, but I could be mistaken. I mean, listen, Brett showed up at the first Double or Nothing. Yeah. Okay, real quick, let's hit the highlights of the card, The matches that you just go, whoa. Samoa Joe and Will Ospreay. That's pretty fun, guys. In a men's Owen Hard Cup quarterfinal. Yep. Bandito and Swerve Strickland. That's going to be good. Okada and Takashta. I mean, listen, dip. Something plus. Evolves. A former, former Evolve talent, Zeta Steele. is in a tag match up against Divine Dominion. Her and Viva Van against Megan Bain and Lena Cross.
1:11:35So Zeta Steele went from... Guys, this is what's so crazy about pro wrestling. Zeta Steele was in Evolve. I was a big fan. SGG, you guys both probably watched almost all of her matches. I don't think she ever won a match. I literally think she jobbed every single match in Evolve and now she's on pay-per-views on AEW. That to me is like, I'm not even, I'm saying this with no judgment. I don't have an angle from which I'm judging this. Like, oh, that says something good about WWE or bad about WWE, either way. I'm just saying it's crazy. Like, I thought Zayda seemed like she had a lot. Obviously something I still don't know whether she left on her own or they weren't interested.
1:12:21I don't even know what happened. but now here she is on pay-per-views. By the way, speaking of thoughts related to AEW, you know that dude on social media, SGG, the guy, he gets fed to me a lot. It's a black dude who just sits there and kind of looks at the camera and sarcastically basically disses WWE and always puts over AEW. He has a voice that's kind of deep. He's like, wait a second. You're telling me, you know what I'm talking about? I have no idea who you're talking about. I don't know why he gets fed to me. My algorithm is protecting me from this egregious WWE slander. No, it's all, everything is WWE slander.
1:13:03I have no idea who you're talking about. I got fed a video of him burying me the other day. What? From when I tweeted that Moxley shouldn't be cutting a rambling promo before the main event at the pay-per-view. You were right, by the way. Well, hold on. I got screamed on by so many people, including this guy, who as part of his argument as to, you know, when he's mocking me for being a shill and how I don't know anything, was mocking me because I disrespected a promo that instantaneously made Jon Moxley the biggest baby face in all of AEW. And that's what everyone online came at me and said. You had no respect for this promo.
1:13:45Well, guess what? he just became the biggest babyface in AEW. Question, how'd that pan out? Exactly, exactly. Is he the biggest babyface in AEW? From that point on, did that happen? Did he even make it to Wednesday? Did he even make it to Wednesday as the biggest babyface in AEW? The very next Wednesday, he was no longer the biggest babyface in AEW. It didn't actually become what all you people argue with me about when I said, why is he cutting this Deathriders promo? And they're like, you don't get the storytelling. he just became in that one moment it was the culmination and now he's gonna be the guy where's the follow-up been so no it wasn't that it was a 20 it was a 10 minute promo that really went nowhere right before your main event when the fans have been waiting four and a half hours to see the the big dogs get in there and have the main event god but no one comes back when they're wrong and says you know what my bad rosenberg you're not just a dumb shill or maybe you are, but you were right about that.
1:14:42Right about this. You were right about that. I was just sitting there. Zach Linder was over at my old Repug apartment that we've since moved back to our new apartment. And we were just sitting there and Zach has to get back to New Jersey at some point. We're waiting for the MJF match. What the hell is this guy talking about? And now we look back. It didn't really go anywhere. But you people are all quiet about that. Yeah. God. That's what I'm with AEW fans too is like. No, don't Don't do that. Don't. You're part of the problem. You're part of the problem. How much of it is aspirational, though?
1:15:14Like, grade what happens, not what you think is going to happen. He cut that promo. It took away from the main event. It was nonsensical. Even if you thought it was going to lead to something, Mage, we can say that. They were grading what they thought was going to happen. Yeah, even if it did go to where you thought it was going, I still didn't think it was a good promo. Yeah, and that's why you can't be aspirational like that and say, like, oh, wait and see. they're going to do this because mostly they don't do that they end up doing something that's probably better oh sometimes it's worse but they don't do that and sg i'll go with those same fans in bigging up aw they also came at me when i said the darby title change was mage and now you look up and the title and his title reign has been great it has been incredibly entertaining and now he is a made man in AEW forever.
1:16:04And guess what? My prediction is, if I were to guess, I'm going to jump out on a limb. Max is not going to end up shaving his head. He's going to end up winning the title back in New York on Sunday night. He cannot end up shaving his head. He cannot. But SGG, you wouldn't welcome him to the bald community? I would, but you see, this is the thing about any community. You can't be forced into to the community. I would welcome him with open arms if he made the choice and decided that he was ready to join our ranks. It doesn't feel to me like he is ready to be among us as a productive member of the bold society.
1:16:48It feels like he would be here begrudgingly. He would not respect bold etiquette. He'd be trying to grow the hair back. I feel like he'll be trying to grow the hair back. I feel like he'll be dipping into some hair growth products that that's just disrespectful to the bald community. And so if he doesn't want to be a member, then I'm just going to say, you know, he's happy where he is. I am happy with him where he is. If he ever decides that he would like to join our ranks, happy to have him as well. You don't trust him as a bald man is what you're saying. I don't trust him as a bald man Who was forced to shave his head bald Because he lost to Darby Allin No As a bald man who woke up one day And said you know I look good like this Bring him on The red carpet's rolled out For that version of MJF I hear what you're saying I do understand Well guess what I don't think it's going to be a decision A conversation we have to have I don't think it's happening And I think the Darby thing has been a lot of fun.
1:17:53I think people will look back very fondly at the Darby Allen title reign. This is one of the things. We're so precious in wrestling. It goes right back to what I was saying earlier about the Roman Reigns people. Because I heard Sam, you know, two weeks ago talking about Roman, and he gets this whole way about, like, oh, my tribal chief losing his title. And no, everything's right. The title must be on him. We're overly precious about certain things that can be fun. I relate this to sports sometimes, too, when there are these teams who don't want to put people's jerseys in the rafter. Yo, it has to be.
1:18:25Yo, give fans a reason to celebrate, whether it's pro sports or pro wrestling. You want people to celebrate. Speaking of pro sports, SGG, before the show started, you said something celebratory about the Knicks. I said, go, New York, go, New York, go. Wait, wait, wait. But SGG, aren't you, I thought you went Philadelphia. No, no, I live in Philadelphia. I just voted in the primary. Shout out to Chris Rapp. Oh, good for you. He becomes my representative. I live in Philadelphia, but I mean, I'm from New York through and through. I never doubted, never wavered, lifelong Knicks fan. You know, in fact, just the other day, you know, when the playoffs started, I went out and I made a purchase I went to Best Buy and I bought a color TV so I can see the Knicks play basketball
1:19:22and I've been enjoying it ever since, shout out to the sixth man Dan Housen, you know the Knicks, you know we here, we here man wait, did you really, you really went out and bought a color TV to watch the Knicks play basketball no, but I just, I love that That reference has been in my head all playoffs. That was really. It's 50 years old, guys. I didn't come up with it myself, but that's, you know, hey. I'm not above a dated reference. Yo, Dipperstein. Yeah. Have you seen Dan Housen's involvement in the New York Knicks? Yes, I have. He's, he, the other day, I thought he was in a really, really risky position.
1:20:02I did as well. When the Knicks were down 22 points after he had just been on the court wearing a Knicks jersey that said Danhausen, I said, if they get blown out in this game, this guy's never coming back to the guard. He will be rude for life. Here's the funniest thing, tying this back to wrestling. if the Knicks don't end up winning the championship at this point the Dan Housen thing would be kind of forgotten about you know they won enough after he did it that they wouldn't like blame him so it would be whatever it would end up just kind of going away if they do win the championship he gotta be he gotta get his own float at the parade he will when he comes out like if they ever one of the things we didn't talk about this week they're supposedly bringing back some house shows, if they were to bring back the holiday tour next year and Dan Housen were to come out at MSG, oh my god, it would be epic.
1:21:01He got to get a banner. He got to get a ring. Yeah, man. The man's got something. I'll tell you that. It was almost really, really bad. I got to send him some names to curse. We have to pay human monies for that. All right. it does it does seem it does seem that he's he doesn't appear to be booked for saturday night's main event i wonder if he will end up on the clash in italy
1:21:32i have to imagine that he would be there in some capacity by the way this is this is like a really nerdy nuancy thing here are they gonna get will they get dan hausen in like other countries I think yes, because the WWE universe is its own thing. The other countries are just chapters in the club. So even how when they go to Europe, they do certain chants, and then suddenly they end up doing those chants in Japan, in Iowa, wherever they go, they do those chants. I think that they've seen enough of Dan Housen. that people are ready to jump on board with whatever that is, because that really is what happens with everybody.
1:22:21That's a fair point by you, S.U.G. One of the better points you've ever made in your life. Yeah, but I haven't seen that Dan Housen's listed, but again, we don't know what Clash in Italy is going to be. SummerSlam is two days, though, so I guess we will run these five-card PLEs with the exception of the two-night PLEs, which as of right now, just to be clear, just to reset, it's just SummerSlam and WrestleMania, correct? For now, yeah. Do we think that they will change that at any point and there will be any further two nights or is, is SummerSlam going to be the extent of the two night? I love the two nights.
1:23:04I think raw should be two nights every week. I'm down for two Royal Rumbles in a row. although that one is by the way that one is the easy one you think of though is that you have the men's rumble one night the women's rumble the next night yeah the problem with that though is the problem with that though is people are gonna bitch about well the women's rumble wasn't they they that's the saturday night one now why won't they give it the sunday spot and it's not the true like and then when you fill out the cards with other matches if you put women's matches on the same night as the women's rumble then people are going to say oh they segregate in the rumble now and it just yeah maybe maybe you're right i think there's a way to do it that works i do too but we're talking about wrestling fans who complain about literally everything if it's good you complain if it's great they complain if it's bad they complain twice as much so it's got it's gotten out of hand it really i i do i love this fan base like from a moral standpoint i think the wrestling fan.
1:24:09Here's what I think is interesting. I think that by and large wrestling fans are like the greatest fan group in history. I love them. They are just nice and safe and you can bring your kids to the events and all the things that we love. And yet the psycho version of wrestling fans online are like the scariest mob of fans that you can, one of the worst. Two different fan bases, that's why. and i and i feel like those ones online that are like the crazy ones i don't even know how many of them go to the shows i think they go to indie shows i think they go to indie shows and then complain about the aew and wwe shows i don't even know that they go to the maybe they go to aew shows yeah i don't even think they go to the big shows but it's just weird to me because in person god i love our fan base i just think it's the absolute best hey dip do you think you'll come in town for the Fanatics Fest and we'll go to Saturday night's main event?
1:25:09Oh yeah, I'll be there baby. You're going to be wandering around Fanatics Fest. Confirmed. You love it. One of your favorite events. I love, I'm a fanatic. What can I tell you? It's my fest. It's for people like me. It's for people like you. I'm a fanatic and there's a festival for these fanatics so I'm going to be there. What the hell is this? As I'm sitting here
1:25:35Danhausen and Dan Housen and University of Kentucky Athletics collaborated on a post for a new Dan Housen and Kentucky Wildcats merch. Dan Housen wrote Wildcat Housen. Dan Housen times UK Athletics shirt available now at WWE Shop. order or you are cursed tooth emoji cat emoji devil emoji why i wonder why and you'll be happy to know uh the kentucky wildcat mascot sug is wearing a danhausen mask yeah i see it i see it it's it's it's so interesting man so he's out of here man he's good for him we love dan hausen i'm super happy for dan hausen um i hope he gets to sit next to timothy chamale and and kylie jenner at one of these games it's just incredible to see like It must be so gratifying, though, to know, like, hey, I've got this thing.
1:26:56I think it's really special. I think if I got to a big platform, people would gravitate towards it. And then you get to the platform, and it literally goes crazy to the point of, like, ridiculousness. And he seems very unaffected by it. You know, like, they're bringing him out on first take. They're doing this. They're doing that. They're linking him up with everything. and yet he seems completely unaffected by the entire thing. It's remarkable. It's only in wrestling, man. You don't get this. There's no basketball player who's playing at the Rucker and then gets a chance at the NBA and is like, oh, now the biggest star in the NBA.
1:27:40Yeah. You know, it doesn't even really happen in music very often where they're like someone who toils around on the indies forever then gets their chance to be like, now you become a huge star. It happens. It does happen in music. But the only name I'm thinking about when you say that is Lil Nas X. How he had like that moment and then Old Town Road exploded and then he was out of here. You mean, oh, you mean where it happens that fast? Yeah. Well, it happens in music that fast. But this is a whole different thing. But Lil Nas X was on like SoundCloud and then like two months later, he was everywhere.
1:28:13That is true. With Lil Nas X, it was SoundCloud to Old Town Road is literally like your grandparents are singing it. Greg, you were just a schmagegy paralegal. And then all of a sudden, Peter Rosenberg finds you on Twitter and you become one of the most popular podcasters in the world. That's a great point. So what are you talking about? This happens to people all the time. It's like when you bumped into Peter Rosenberg at the bathroom and saw his watch. Thankfully, that's all you saw. And you said, oh, I remember demolition. It wasn't in the bathroom, okay. I wasn't a paralegal either, but who cares?
1:28:45It's for the story and the joke. You were a paralegal, okay? You were a paralegal. We're telling jokes on this show. He was already a lawyer. He was Greg the Virgin Valentine. Are we doing comedy or not? You're still in my phone as Greg the Virgin Valentine. Good. Don't ever change it. Yeah. Does it say Greg the Virgin Valentine? 100%. Don't ever change it. That's like Big E being in my phone as Big E Langston. Langston. Look what I found. I just sent you guys another picture to the group chat. this was found the other day in the basement of the long island estate oh yes i saw you post about that it's fantastic that's the watch that's the watch that's the beautiful jake the snake watch folks that started it all and i also found this dip i sent you something else there another beautiful item wow oh that's crazy i'm nervous those are michael jackson tops trading cards, my friend.
1:29:45Nah, that's dope. That's pretty image. I don't have those. I just have a few packs. You know what they are? They're pictures of Michael Jackson on little pieces of cardboard. Now, I'm going to send you one other thing that I saw at the Barry Blaustein Shiva the other day. Take a look at this that I'm sending to the group chat. Another gem. They had this. His sister had this. This is an article from Sunday, March 12, 2000.
1:30:23Touted as an expose, beyond the mat pulls its punches. Can you believe the New York Post, the nerve of this place? They talk so much shit about wrestling, always. And then Barry Blaustein makes a masterpiece which really does not pull punches on how crazy the wrestling business is. and they say it pulls punches because they were expecting like uh i don't even know what they were expecting it wasn't necessarily touted as an expose though it was like a look behind the scenes which is very different the reality is beyond the mat barry blaustein's 103 minute documentary which is being promoted as a disturbing expose as the ww of the wwf blaustein you are not mcmahon's worst nightmare the documentary which opens friday fails to push any of the hot button issues that would keep McMahon up at night.
1:31:13In fact, the subjects of steroids, profanity, risky stunts, and ethnic baiting are never even raised. God, there are just so many. And that's important. So many. Imagine this guy, Richard Wilner, sat down to write this review in 2000 and thought that this movie didn't actually expose incredible things about the wrestling business just because it didn't focus on the same topics that that psychopath, lunatic, bigot, idiot, Phil Mushnick has been rambling about with regards to pro wrestling for 35 years. There's nothing to me more embarrassing than someone whose opinions never grow, evolve, or change in any way when they have a platform to espouse them for over 30 years.
1:32:00That is Phil Mushnick. He literally writes, and Phil Mushnick is a famous writer in the New York Post. Famous to Jace. he writes the exact same takes on pro wrestling in 2026 that he wrote in 2006, in 1996, maybe even as far back as 1986. And it's never changed. And it's interesting to see that another writer for the post saw Beyond the Mat the same way. I guess they thought that if you were going to do a documentary, the only way to do it would be to, like, grill Vince McMahon about what were the hot button issues. But remember, Vince McMahon ended up being very unhappy with the movie because he thought it exposed too much and really made the business look bad.
1:32:42And you understand that part. You watch the movie. You don't watch Beyond the Mat now and think, oh, Vince McMahon would have liked this movie. No, definitely not. But that's the thing. Wrestling fans understand that because we know what actually is being exposed versus like, oh, there's an angle. Because there's a difference between having an angle and saying, all right, I'm going to frame everything from this angle and just being open to where the story takes you and then getting a masterpiece like Beyond the Mat. Because you can't force that. No, you can't. And I think people believe that for something to be critical, it has to be grilling.
1:33:22Yeah, hostile. Or a hit piece. That you can't sometimes let the story tell itself. and in the storytelling itself, it exposes things about the wrestling business. Because no, it's not a complete hit piece on Vince McMahon. But when you see how Jake the Snake is doing in the movie, that doesn't bode well for WWF at the time. And he's not the only one. The junkyard dog stuff that's in the movie, not something that i'm sure looks great for wwf at the time
1:34:01and even like the chair shots and stuff like that it's like those this is a sacrifice that people are taking like it's it's tough yeah and it looks really barbaric and insane that the chair shots were happening that time and it's not like at that time when the movie came out those had been banned they were like totally fine so like a lot of it did look pretty bad. Even at the time, you would watch that and go, oh, my God. Now, we didn't get much to SmackDown. What did you guys think of the Trick, Yachty, Miz, Kit Wilson situation?
1:34:39It's... Oh, go ahead. I mean, look, I'd love to see Miz and Trick Williams in a, you know, go at it. Like, I think that's a good... I think that makes a lot of sense to me. You mean as a singles rivalry? As a singles rivalry, yes, sorry. Yes, I think it makes a lot of sense. But I can't believe I'm saying this. I never thought I'd like Lil Yachty as part of this situation. But he's a pretty good wrestling manager. He's playing the role perfectly. I got to give him love. I got to tell you. He's been great. I'm into it. We said that on this show. So it's good to see there's three for three on that.
1:35:21Because I agree. I wonder how long Yachty sticks around. I don't know what his deal is with them. I wonder how that works too. Was it a six-month situation? I haven't asked him. I wonder what his deal is. But at this point, it's really starting to work. and he has like a pretty natural feel for it all. I don't think they can get rid of him now. He needs to stay for a little while. Yeah. Oh, no, he's found a way to like make himself really part of the show. And it's not annoying. And it's not misguided. And it kind of works perfect. Yeah, I'm sorry. I know he's a rapper first. I don't care what new albums he's working on.
1:36:11Set him up a studio in the back. But he needs to show up wherever they had on Friday. that's what he needs to be at on Fridays and select Saturdays throughout the month it does feel that way he feels like the real deal here which is like I'm just so happy for him because he wanted to be involved in it so bad there was a situation where he was going to be on a countdown show with us a few months ago and he ended up there was a miscommunication things happened he ended up late and wasn't on the countdown show and I was like oh god they were going to have him do something and it didn't work out, this is not going to be good.
1:36:48He ended up, obviously they ended up fixing it up and talking about whatever happened and he expressed his disappointment that it didn't work out. And ends up getting this opportunity and he's just absolutely hitting it out of the park. I just, in fact, and guys, you know the only thing that's going to be better and where he'll excel even more? I mean, it's so obvious. When he eventually turns on trick. I'm down with that too. Him eventually turning on trick to be a heel as much as people are actually kind of rocking with them, guys, I'm telling you, I just, he could be such a great heel too. Yeah.
1:37:31And you got to come up with something interesting for trick at some point, guys, because like trick is going to be, he's sort of in an Oba like situation of that. Like he's so hot and over and fun right now that you're just kind of, It's easy to just have him beat people up week after week. He looks like a star, man. I'm so happy they found him. It's such a stupid thing to say. Trick or Yachty? Trick, trick. Yeah, well, to circle back to your question about The Miz, though, that's what makes this great for Trick and Miz, right? Because, you know, we said this on the show. I think I said this to Miz himself.
1:38:09he he's like the measuring stick when you have a new person come to WWE they gotta go with Miz first just to see if they really can fit if they can handle it like that's at least how I view him and so Trick in this spot with the Miz is perfect because yeah he was a heel this whole time they switched him over to babyface the fans love him but can he really excel in that role the only way to find out is to throw them right into the deep waters with the miz i mean not to be like too glazy but i gotta tell you there was a lot of there was a lot of criticism you know last 2025 about you know not being able to make new stars and you know uh the the main town you know the the top of the card is older and all this stuff or whatever that's completely been erased i mean they've made many new stars even in the last six months yeah the thing about them not being able to make new stars though i never bought into that because me neither it's just something people were saying and it's nonsense people would say that and then you'd say oh well what about this person well they don't count for this reason oh well okay well what about that person well you know they don't it's like they've they've always been in the star making business and even if you look at like these call-ups right oba javon and trick came up at the same time.
1:39:31That's a trifecta right there just for this year. And it's not over. And Dan Housen. And Dan Housen. Yeah. They keep doing it. And Dan Housen might be the biggest star of the bunch. It's all happening. And even, by the way, even the Evolve to NXT call-ups. Callie Armstrong. Yeah. There's a lot of good people out there. Kendall Gray. Vanity Project. Vanity Project. Although they really are moving a lot of people up, guys. I saw Layla Diggs post yesterday. It's a WWE, you know, I should like, finally, I've arrived. WWE NXT. Okay. We're starting evolve. I feel like every time I get to evolve, I've got a new crop of people to learn.
1:40:14It's so interesting though. Cause I feel like that's the challenge, right? With it was the challenge for NXT feeling like, Oh, you build these people up knowing that they're meant to be poached. Yep. By the way, like they're not there to stay. I'm going to say it right now Cam Hendricks is something Tate Wilder is something
1:40:36Tate's character needs more definitely he's definitely a good wrestler
1:40:44in Evolve I kept waiting for the I was trying to figure out who the character is supposed to be and I think that yeah like wholesome we need more than wholesome I need more than wholesome I could see full-blown cowboy country singer it depends and then you have to decide do you want this guy to be like because as a heel there's a lot of things you could do with him heel country singer but as a baby face just wholesome is very tough in 2026 I don't think that will work but he's got the look he's a good wrestler he's like got the wholesome like Americana thing he's an evil evil Evil Chris Stapleton.
1:41:26Yeah, I think evil Chris Stapleton would be way, way more interesting for him. I would love that. Yes. All right. All right. And I don't know what they're going to do with Cam Hendricks. Cam Hendricks is gargantle. I have no idea what they're going to. I mean, he's awesome. Well, he's just an a-hole. Like, he's such, he's so able to be the cocky, athletic a-hole. He's good at that. He's really, really good at it. So there's definitely room for him. But, like, dude, everyone who shows up, we have these guys who showed up. like Tristan Angels is already doing NXT stuff. Everybody who shows up to evolve, it seems like, is getting shots at NXT.
1:42:01It's an interesting time. And Sean spoke about that, that they're really transitioning a lot right now. So I think the main roster is in really good shape. I think the trickier part is NXT finding its footing. They got Mason Rooks. That's exciting. Nikki Blackheart showed up and did stuff. I'm waiting for Harley Riggins to get his day in court. We know how you feel about Harley Evans. When is that guy going to get the nod? He is so dope. And let's be real, too, about these, you know, these involved call-ups and how quickly that happened. You have to know that, you know, when Triple H or whoever is getting these tapes of these guys, they hear Rosenberg on the call and they're just like, oh, yeah, P is right.
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