The Diperstein Gimmick

0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out Stat Guy Greg. The major stick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The king of KG 24 seconds. A thousand percent confirmed. M-mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. M-m-m-m-m-m-mage. ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma mail MASUR ma ma ma ma ma ma ma M kunnen être russe mi ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma m scoop mi ma ma ma ma ma ma ma mail muzzle mi ma ma mi ma ma ma ma ma M thorough m increasingly mo ma ma ma ma ma ma ma Sea Py Limited Oh I'm sorry be embryo cambiar Oh I'm sorry beesar aw Oh I'm sorry up or I'm sorry oh oh Oh I'm sorry Oh, oh. Sweet, sweet Peter Rosenberg.

1:02Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was repugged. It was repugged. It's professional. Wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen, the world's number one sports and recreation podcast, GP is back. Happy Juneteenth, everyone. You might be hearing this on June 18th. You may be hearing it on Juneteenth. Federal holiday. now i don't think any of us are directly impacted now actually you are courts closed right yeah courts are closed so day off you you were taking it anyway yeah i mean come on you were to and i mean and by the way i'm not saying that as a homage to greg's legitimate uh pro-blackness i'm just saying it to his homage to take vacation when opportunity to look let's be honest right Juneteenth specifically like the law refers to June 19th but I mean there's a June 13th a June 14th a June 15th you get it it's all Juneteenth really it's a great point I think the date I think the date is June 19th though you can't just take the 13th through the 19th I mean you could you should it's a great point because they didn't specify is what you're saying They just said Juneteenth.

2:14Now, Dip, just for the record, so we can get this out of the way. If you need to cough like that again because you're coming back from your shoot sickness, don't look away and cough. Hit the mute button on the bottom of your screen. I didn't know. I thought the mute button would disrupt the audio. No, it'll just watch. Just try it. Try it right now. And then you can give yourself a cough with a cinch. Let me see. You hit mute. Yeah, look. Nothing. Perfect. Pretty good. Dip is back. A lot of people were worried about Dip. He is back. He's with us. recovering from whatever he contracted at Dipper Lago.

2:45Very unfortunate. Something happened. Something happened. It's unfortunate that we shouted out all those people and then one of those ne 'er-do-wells did that to Dip. Is it possible it was MJF? I mean, he hurts people. Does he infect people? He's a scumbag. He says he's a scumbag. He's a scumbag that infects people. He infects people. He infects people. Yeah, I wonder who it was. so many greats and near greats that it could have been dip you realize that mostly greats no no i would say if we're being completely honest dip let's break it down honestly mostly near greats oh no yeah no mostly come on being realistic fired there mostly greats you had 200 people at your house i mean this it was it was mostly near greats i mean and then you had some greats there were some i mean compared to the oh i thought you were talking about the greats oh no no the greats were great there's some great there are some greats there's some greats for sure percentage wise would you say it was like 20 percent greats and then most 90 97 percent greats of the greats no just in general no no no it was i would say it was 90 near greats 10 percent greats you don't know who you're you don't know who you're bumping elbows with but if you don't know doesn't that make them likely a near grade yeah pretty much and by the way in the eyes of uh some unfortunate others i was also a near grade you think so by the way how about this in the eyes of some of the people there ron killings was a near grade they don't know some of these people do not know and with that let's let's let's make that our jumping off point here the rumors have been swirling that uh ron killings and uh john cena will get together on smackdown this friday has that been made official it has been made official i believe i think i saw a graphic last night that there's going to be either a match or a face-off or some some sort of confrontation but i saw the graphic so the question now is what is going on are we getting our truth john cena blown off on Friday and CM Punk in Saudi are we gonna get somehow CM Punk doesn't end up going to Saudi and R-Truth and Cena have their match there and Punk gets pushed to SummerSlam um Dip you're shaking your head as if what I'm saying is crazy I think it's all rather logical what I'm saying so please please please share with the class I think Saudi gets CM Punk Cena and and the R-Truth thing is just a little bump in the road.

5:32I don't know where they go next with R-Truth. I don't know. It's the big mystery of wrestling right now, in my opinion. Where does R-Truth go from the Cena thing and the hair shaving? Where do you go after shaving the hair? It's a great question. I had to deal with this. Where does he go after Cena? What happens next? I don't think that's what he was getting at, P. I mean, listen, it was a big deal. It happened to me, too. Where do you go? In fact, I'll share with you guys something. Something I'll never be doing. Shaving your hair? You hope not. I'm not. Well, what if it's gone? You'll just get plugged?

6:10I'll be plugging and seating and crowning and doing all the things. Listen, guys, I understand what it's like to be in a situation like this. If you're watching us on YouTube, I'm going to take you back in time. Oh. this is when the hair ended for your boy look at young Mr. Kennedy right there and look at the bald spot that is happening he's gotta be the least I have the least knowledge of any wrestler run I have the least knowledge of Mr. Kennedy you missed it completely you were gone it was a short run it was mage mage yeah it was mage it was the definition of near great now yes and here and here he is after me losing a contest to him taking the peanut the wall peanut hair shaver and shaving my dome this was the this was the end of hair that is that you waited I mean I can be honest with you as well as I we know each other I've never seen this video I need to I need to express something before you say the hurtful things you're about to say I need to say something.

7:21Just hear me out. Hear me out first. Yeah. As God is my witness, the light in that room and the way it's being shot makes it see the brightness on my forehead. I did not look like that every moment. It did. Oh, my. You waited that long. It's not. It was not nearly as dip as much. No, dip is violating really badly right now. As you see, you can see the light, right? Look at my forehead. yeah you see the light shining off but so a terrible lighting in the room at that time the light is like right in the worst possible spot for that so no i did not look but i'm pretty sure kennedy he gives me a full sherman helmsley look at this this is bad this is bad kennedy now

8:09what year is this oh let's see the video that video and that's the end of the video it was 16 years ago it says so 2008 so it's 2008 ish i met you in 2014 oh yeah thank god i i i i didn't know you with that i would have immediately walked right past you on the street yeah i would have been like this this is repulse what's happening but no to answer your question Mr. Kennedy and MVP basically popped up at the same time as as young ish smackdown mid card heels. Right. They started the thing where MVP was in the crowd and we just signed this high level athlete. He was wearing a suit. He had the jewelry and they were like, oh, he's a blue chipper.

8:58This new athlete MVP around that same time, Mr. Kennedy appeared out of nowhere. and I don't remember if there was a build to Kennedy. I just remember immediately the thing with Kennedy was the mic dropping from the sky. Same. I don't remember what the build was or like the intro. Were there vignettes? I don't remember. I don't recall. But I, like you, remember week after week hearing him do his own announcements and then they got a little bit more grand and I was just like, this guy's on fire to the point where he won the Money in the Bank briefcase. he won the briefcase dip and like you would have situations where it'd be like on a random pay-per-view it would be like it would but it would be like mvp had undertaker mr kennedy had cane like they were they were the two upstart guys and everyone thought kennedy would at some point like i i think we all expect them to have like a you know a big triple h feud like he was really going to go well the rumor was that uh he was named mr kennedy and given the briefcase and all of that because there was going to be a big triple h feud over like the quote-unquote future the company kayfabe and he was going to be revealed as vince's uh illegitimate child that ended up being hornswoggle but the kennedy was was vincent kennedy right what happened to it we don't know I think he had like an incident with Randy Orton And they were just like yeah he's gotta go What kind of incident?

10:31I think he may have injured Orton Or something happened with Orton And you know back then Orton was just like His fuse was very short There was also a wellness policy violation He's the LA Knight of 2007-8 Right? He's LA Knight He's LA Knight of Jays Or LA Knight is a lot of people of Jays Okay, let me just say one difference. He was, in terms of how over L.A. Knight is, I would say L.A. Knight is Kennedy plus, but in terms of potential and originality, Kennedy was L.A. Knight plus. Originality? I wouldn't say Kennedy was complete. Oh, Kennedy was L.A. Knight plus. okay yes he was his own thing he was a complete original this guy who came down with the boxing old school intro like he was his own thing he was pretty solid in ring he wasn't like incredible but he was good and he was very charismatic in terms of originality though i wouldn't put la knight and mr kennedy in in the same conversation at all just because we're talking about level of level of heat level of pops level of like his spot on the roster mr kennedy is i think yeah but la Knight's probably even bigger.

11:52I mean, LA Knight has kind of, sorry, Dip, in some ways you were right about LA Knight. In some ways you were wrong. I mean, you're right. He didn't make it to the top of the mountain, which you were right about, but he has stayed very high level for a long time, which you were wrong about. And I think firmly in the midcard, though. Firmly. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. He's feuding with the top heel in the company right now. Let's face it. Seth Rollins and, you know, he's not with Seth Rollins. He's involved in that. He's involved in that. He's involved tangentially. He is not feuding with Seth Rollins.

12:28To say he's involved tangentially would be to say - That is a stretch beyond words. To say he's involved tangentially would be to say that Braun Breaker and Braun Sarita also involved, quote unquote, tangentially with Seth Rollins. Like, look, LA Knight has the briefcase. That's who he's feuding with. He was in the Money in the Bank match with Seth Rollins. That's not a feud. He was prevented from getting the briefcase by Seth Rollins' guys. You're literally making this up. You're literally making it up. They came out and they stopped. He never will feud with Seth Rollins. Okay. And then in any near future.

12:59Okay. You do not believe he's ever getting near a top level feud. He's not getting near that top level feud. And, and I would say, if you told me that Bron Breaker and LA night will have a feud and have a match on a pay-per-view, I would say, fine. That makes sense. Seth Rollins is not feuding with LA night. Seth Rollins is only involved in the top situation right now. Just with Cody, as we saw last night. I would say not with Cody, though. Seth Rollins and Cody have yet to actually interact. And honestly, I feel like... What do you mean? It happened last week. Did you say that? They got face-to-face, but there's been no...

13:38Seth has put the pause on everybody. So, I mean, my antennas are up. Maybe we see Seth Rollins and Cody. It's up for debate. you're not wrong it's up to debate yeah that is true it is unclear it's unclear but i wouldn't say that la knight and seth rollins are feuding right now yeah i would i agree with dip on this i think tangential is the i i think he hovers near the the the top of the card he does he does hover near the top of the car because let's face he had roman reigns when roman reigns was at the peak of his powers too he's just like he rises in for a second when he was at his hottest he had that moment with her and by the way i thought that moment was a little bit rushed did he get two matches with roman was he in the fatal four-way at the rumble also he was he was in a fatal four-way look here's here's the point that was correct in this conversation la night has had staying power it is undeniable more than you thought more than he thought more than i thought and i'm gonna add one more compliment one more compliment before you take him down a notch and also and also i would say the things that made him annoying to people um and being really derivative i think some of those things have been shed a bit like he has become a little bit of his own person naturally over time sort of in the way action bronson at first everyone was like he's ghost face but then after a while you're like no he was like ghost face but he's action bronson i feel the same way about la night and stone cold yes at first i was like oh my god it's stone cold now i'm like no it's la night he has it's way more tolerable to me than it was previously obviously they've shed a lot of that crap but um when i see him i'm not like oh god anymore i don't feel that way anymore oh growth yeah there's great we'll take it but he hates your guts and you hate his absolutely a massive feud it still exists it was it was one of the more uncomfortable moments in the history of the podcast it was it was tough that was a tough moment what was what was your line who are you yeah i was like who are you what's your name again oh my god you're lucky it was him if this had if this had been in the in the 1980s you would have gotten your face slapped.

16:00You think I would have said that to Haku? You would have lost your eardrum. You think I would have never said that to Haku or Nasty or Jerry Sags or any of the tough guys? Who hit John Stossel again? Dr. D. You wouldn't have said it to Dr. D? No. Dr. Death? No, not Dr. Death. Dr. D. Who? He would have said it. David Schultz. Oh my God, you just said it. Right, David Schultz. Right, right. Dr. D. David Schultz. He's in a new home again. Dr. D. David Schultz, right. Yeah. Eardrum busted. Anyways. Hilarious. I have the Vinstock up right now, actually. Oddly. You're watching again? Yeah. Well, you're in these hotel rooms, and they have these primitive – when is the – when are you going to be able to turn on a TV in a hotel from the Ritz Carlton or whatever, the nicest hotel in the country to the shittiest hotel in the country.

16:58He's right about this. No matter where you are, you turn on the TV and it's this primitive, you know, what is this? Like, if it's all based around the hope that you order movies, it's such a ridiculous idea at this point. How much are you making off of the buying movies in your hotel room? No one's buying the movies. I have to push a guide button that takes 10 seconds to open. The guide takes 10 and then an arrow down. One arrow down is a two-second operation. This thing right now? Oh, forget it. It moves to the left. It moves to the right. I can't control this thing at all. This button. This remote.

17:41It's absolute madness. We are living in maddening times. These guides are from 1993. 1993 let's start a thing on this show where we where we point out the technology that should be better it just doesn't make sense hotel television completely mario lopez commercial it's yeah that's number one i'd also add into the hall of fame of current things that i go how have you not gotten this right i would say bluetooth is still in that category for sure the disconnecting the reconnecting you do every phone call you have with someone who's wearing headphones there is a moment of disconnection what about internet on a plane what what i will say the internet has improved recently it's improved but at the end of the day it should be there there should be no question you get on the plane there's internet i mean what what we have to click in the thing i mean everything i know i know i know it's bad what is this are you a t-mobile customer if not It's$99.95.

18:44If you're T-Mobile, it's great. I fly Delta yesterday. I fly Delta. I have to put in my number for Delta, and then it's good. Great. Then you fly United or American, and it's$39 for the flight. The American one is crazy. The American one is they're out of their minds. It's appropriate that it's American. That would be absolutely out of their gourds. All right, let's get back to the wrestling. I can't talk about the hotel remotes and the internet on the planes and the Bluetooth. These are horrible things affecting the world right now. But other things did happen this week that are very, very exciting.

19:23Or we'll find out. You believe CM Punk is going to Saudi. We are getting that match. Which would mean what for SummerSlam, let me ask you. Because we are in this weird world of WWE. Where so many events are happening at one time. that they are currently promoting as we speak fanatics fest of course not getting a lot of promo 90 podcasts but that doesn't count saturday night's main event night of champions summer slam evolution now they're doing all being promoted which i've which i haven't seen which is new i maybe i'm maybe i'm just noticing it now because of the amount of promotion but after a segment they're immediate like after a feud in the ring happens or like whatever segment on Raw last night and then they immediately promote the pay-per-view directly after it and say you can see this match happen at this event I've never I don't recall ever seeing that wait what are they saying I know it's really specific maybe I'm wrong I'm just noticing it now for the first time because of so much say it again my dad like if there's two people in the ring feuding uh give me an example of a feud that's happening right now ellen is the throats no but it was seen let's go ceno punk ceno punks yeah yeah okay so let's just say they had already made that match they're saying like they walk out of the ring and the next segment is and then and then they immediately cut to you can see this match in Saudi Arabia you could see this match a night of champions like I can't explain it I I can't you have to go back but it's a new it's a new form of the segment is now the commercial for the commercial the segment's a commercial for the commercial yes the the the what's happening in the ring is a commercial for the commercial it's a commercial for the commercial yes I don't understand that means he's advertising for a commercial it's advertising to get to the advertisement and then they advertise it again this seems crazy usually it's it's the other way around where you you know show us the picture of saudi arabia and then you know the content is the content now it now now the content is the commercial for the commercial i speak for our entire listening audience when i say i don't have any clue what you're okay it's fair it's really hard to describe but now i get it when you go back and watch you'll be like oh god after every segment they're just promoting the pay-per-view and i know like the tv is that the tv is the promotion for the pay-per-view of course but it seems like it's doing they're doing it a little differently now where it's like like it's like it's a lot you just saw you could see this well i think i think overall in in your own dipperstein terms you just said you agreed with the same thing I'm saying the amount of things that we're promoting at one given time is we frankly have we've never seen anything like this before frankly and that's before we get to NXT and I mean it'd be nice if there was a commercial for Evolve but whatever that that doesn't really happen there's just a lot of stuff to promote by the way did you guys catch the answer from Triple H in the press conference this went under the radar about Cardi when they're like what's Cardi gonna do and he was like cardi's cardi you know hopefully she'll do stuff you know like oh his his answer his answer was clear that i'm totally guessing on this but based on what i know about cardi which is a lot of indecisiveness there's a guys her she has an iconic debut album it came out seven seven or eight years ago there hasn't been a follow-up okay so if that doesn't tell you there's something going on then i i don't know what i'm sorry but she's doing some of her best work on rob four nine songs so i i know she's on the rob four nine she's dropping a single on friday but she's been dropping singles though like you said she's been dropping singles that's been over and over again and then the funniest the funniest thing is though in terms of the summer slam commercial in the summer slam commercial guys it you've seen it a thousand times right yeah where cardi at the end goes we're gonna turn up they they use subtitles that was like the best take that i guess was available and she's like we're gonna turn up and it's so inaudible that there's some watch next time for the subtitles and i'm like that's me they put up subtitles just so you know she said we're gonna turn up now i am hoping cardi is involved and and does something in a real way but go back and watch the presser i was like doesn't sound like she's giving a lot of information here yeah which is on brand for card she's promised to turn up though she needs to so she has promised sorry deb i cut you off you were going to say something um oh no it's gone i can tell it's uh what were we talking about before cardi oh no the commercial for the commercial cm punk sound when you cut off i know you lose something you lose something great it was about cardi no we we had moved to Cardi and you were talking about Cardi and Rob four, nine, four, one, four, nine.

24:44I don't know. There's a lot of, at this point, he's Beatles, Elvis, Rolling Stones level at this point. Dips favorite joke. Is that, is that a top five favorite joke for you? It's refer referring to an artist who's like just of the moment and saying that they're Beatles. They also happen to be like filthy rappers. Yeah. It has to be like total, totally filth, drug driven crap. crap and then you say it's like the Beatles you calling Rob for a crap by the way I have not listened to enough Rob for nine to know whether he's crap but I do like is that is that um that's what you want some is that believe you want some money oh yeah oh yeah it's that's well I would consider that to be something like Blackbird or I want to hold your hand agreed you know what I mean yes I do know what you mean so so um so where are we going at SummerSlam then with John Cena if the John Cena CM Punk is in Saudi Arabia?

25:40Yeah, I mean, hopefully John Cena CM Punk at SummerSlam, but honestly I really don't know. Does it matter? How do we get the belt off Cena? That's my... Someone has to pin his shoulders to the mat and get a 1-2-3 count. It's got to be Cody. No disqualification though. What? He cannot lose the title with disqualification or a count out. It has to be his pin, his shoulders to the mat. One, two, three. Who will beat Cena for the title? Let's have that conversation right now. Is it CM Punk? We had this last week, didn't we? That's usually a bit. We did. We talked about this a bit because I was saying that the weird thing about Seth having the briefcase is you have two heel champions.

26:24and we we've talked about situations and i've heard people suggest no it'll be mage because seth will cash in and he'll he'll do it for a second time and maybe it's a triple threat and it's seth versus punk versus cena triple threat at at summer slam he does it again with the cash in triple threat win although i have to say that's very baby face to me though it is for a guy who's a heel champion running wild that's a very baby and i liked cena's explanation on uh on Friday because, you know, something that did occur to me was, look, him and Seth have the same goal, right? Opposite goal. So they should be opposite each other, right?

27:01He wants to ruin wrestling and take the championship with him. Seth wants to save wrestling. Why wouldn't they be natural enemies with those stated goals? But I liked his explanation of, look, Seth wants to be the one and only true champion in WWE. So to do that, he's going to let Cena walk out with one of the titles and he's going to take the other one and and reign supreme okay i think that's a fair assessment in terms of thinking of just like is there a pure baby face out there who's going to be the one who beats cena for the title i don't know that that person or cm punk those are the three top baby faces in the company it's not going to be code it's not gonna be cm punk i don't think yeah i would i don't think it's going to be cm punk or or uh roman i would say cody just for like a wild card pick, I would say Jey Uso.

27:50I don't know how he gets there. No way. And how he gets there by December. That would be shocking. Jey Uso going back to the top of the mountain would be crazy. I mean, crazy things happen, but. No, I don't think that's out the realm of possibility for him to be back at the top of the mountain. If you had to bet right now, Dip, of Jey Uso ever winning another world title versus never winning another world title, which way are you betting? Never. SUG? Yeah, he's definitely going to win another world title. You think he's definitely going to win another world title? Yeah. I think they're dissatisfied with what's going on there, what happened there.

28:25That's how it felt in terms of how it was booked. That's how it felt. By the booking, that's how it felt. It's so funny. Goldberg's neck. We'll talk about Goldberg. I have to take a quick call in a second. Goldberg's neck is so big, and he's so still intimidating looking, I'm sorry to say. Until he starts wrestling. Until he starts wrestling. I know. He looks great. I know. I was nervous about him even climbing the second rope yesterday. But he looks great. He does look great. By the way, he looks fucking great. I mean, he's 58 years old. He looks great. Is he 58? Gunther looked like a little boy next to Goldberg.

29:01Goldberg looks like a big man. He still looks like a big man. All right. Well, we will see what happens with that. The Jey Uso of it all and the John Cena title of it all. Listen, I heard from someone the other day. they thought the Cena segment on SmackDown last week was his best so far. The one where, I guess, the one where he got attacked by R-Truth the first time. I can't recall. Listen, I have a nitpicky thing about the R-Truth thing. Like, I sort of wanted the Ron Killings character to be a little more serious and a little less unhinged. You know what I mean? Like, it feels like SGG, when they went with the haircutting thing, that was being done in the way people cutting off their own hair is often done to indicate like you're losing it right like that's the thing that's used in film you know like the the psycho girlfriend shows up and she cut her hair off and now she's unhinged yeah yeah that's like a vessel for unhinged at times yeah it's definitely a fine line and what between between unhinged and and super serious yeah and i i feel like it's listen it's still not too late but to me it feels like he's they're leaning into the like he's unhinged and i i kind of wanted him to be like not unhinged so much as like nah he's just done goofing around he's just serious now that that's that was my personal i feel like they had to go unhinged first and then dial it back though because then how do you send that message between like because if he just shows up people expect a little goofiness if he shows up.

30:35You know what? They did the right thing with the R-Truth of it all, and it's something, regardless of the nitpicky. It is definitely something. It is a storyline on, whether it becomes something event, like, whether it's long-term or not, at this moment, watching R-Truth on TV is an interesting thing to watch. And I like it. Agreed. The back and forth about, I have to say, between shoot and work on this is tremendous. That may be my favorite thing about it. Because I and everybody else was so sure it was a shoot. But he could have been working everybody. No way. He got fired? I think he definitely got fired.

31:18But why? What are you saying? No, no. What are you saying? It's pro wrestling. We cannot act as if a pro wrestling thing cannot be an angle. We can't. That is the entire business. He's been doing this for 30 years. his whole life is working his whole character is a work like you're telling me it's impossible that he would put up that he would put out the tweet and they would have a conversation and go hey by the way when people reach out you got to keep going with it we're we're making this thing work that's impossible i think here's why right just because like well hold on i want to how do i play this out a guy who believes every time someone gets hit with a punch they're legitimately injured.

32:00Tell me how it is impossible that it's a work. I want to let him try. He's the one who seems so sure that it's insane. Why would you be so sure this is not a work? What happened that made us sure it's not a work? I'm going to throw Dip a life preserver and say that I agree with him that it's not a work. That I feel very sure that it's not a work. Why? Things that happen on screen and off screen that tell me it's not a work, right? you think this was a work it's not a work what off screen made it not off screen not his tweets but like his son also tweeted when triple h was like you know it's part of the show did you enjoy the show his son was like that's cap which we all know that means what we all know once our truth son weighs in on something that is the bl end yeah but also how about this who the people who didn't weigh in right so on our truth gets puts out the tweet that he's released we don't see him again on that Monday.

32:59Rhea's told not to wear his merch, allegedly, because she's photographed with it, but then when we see her later that day, she doesn't have it on. Nobody acknowledges that we want R-Truth chants. Not Michael Cole. Not anybody in any promos. John Cena did. On Friday after he was already hired back. It wasn't a work. It wasn't a work. Because they knew they were going back into that program. On Monday, on Monday, they completely ignore it. They iced him out like they do everybody else. Meaning that at that time, I think he was gone and they were proceeding as if he was gone. And then between the Monday and the Friday, those three days they had to play with, they worked something out.

33:41And then John Cena gets the green light to say, look, our truth is back. Lean in. He does. And then on Saturday night's main event, he goes right back to a program with Cena. Listen, I mostly agree with you. And I've been saying the whole time i believe it's a shoot i'm just simply pointing out the idea in wrestling of ever being sure that something cannot be a work is silly that is a silly thing to do there's a two percent chance it was it was a work i i'd put it more i'd put it more i'd put it more like i'd say it's a 20 chance i'll go five percent 20 is absurdly high i'll go no no this is professional wrestling in psych everyone's in on it then who no not that many people not that many people have to be what planet are you living on right now who who would have to be in on it things that are not appropriate for this podcast yeah but but upper upper management people get worked that's a that if if triple h is doing it old country way you would work some people at upper management and you would be like hey this is what it is and then really you know it's not i mean i honestly we need to ask The Rock because The Rock would tell us.

34:50Triple H would not tell us. If The Rock was at that press conference and we said, what happened with Archie? Well, obviously everybody knows this is a work. Yeah, look, I got the call from Ari and so I had to have him back. I told Ari we need him back. We heard the chants. We heard the people. I'm the people's camp and I called Ari and said we need him back. It's not a work. I don't think it's a work. I don't think he gave me like a 15-minute worked conversation and then a worked conversation after the fact. I don't think so. But he could if you wanted to, though. What I'm trying to explain to you is.

35:24And he's a genius. No, no, what I'm trying to explain to you, if you've been a wrestling fan for this long and you think that's off the table, then you know nothing about the thing that you love. But that's the thing. It's never off the table. It's not off the table. It's not off the table. But it's dangling off the side of the thing. But also, we're moving it off the ledge of the table. But also, we don't know. This smart fan thing has been BS the whole time. There's no smart fans. We don't know. People have different levels of knowledge, right? Like you and Dip definitely know more than me. But in a situation like this, like you said, when the circle gets smaller and the information gets tighter and more controlled, there's no such thing as a smart fan, especially in those situations.

36:15that's all I'm saying but I do think it's probably what we think but and you know dip makes a good point we have something and that's mage and I agree with that but I don't want it to just die on the vine here I don't want it to be all they all they went for was the initial pop and there's no follow-up and I think there I think there's a lot more legs to our truth as serious truth and I'll and I'll push back on SUG too you said how would you have done it it would have been all in how he did the first promo the first promo didn't have to be standing on a table and cutting his hair off. It could have been Dark Arena standing in the ring, hood on his head, talking more serious.

36:51It didn't have to go the way that it did. And maybe it'll turn out great. I just get concerned about the cartoonishness of the craziness. That's all. What they should be doing with R-Truth right now is making him the truth teller. And his character should tell the truth about how the internet or whatever the fan base the wb universe feels about certain people love it yeah so like now you're on to something yeah he's serious now and he speaks the truth and he's gonna tell you what's up every dumb take you've had on the show just when i think you can't do anything possibly dumber you say something like that and totally redeem yourself wow he's gonna tell you what's up yeah that should be the character and it would be a and it's just pipe bomb after pipe bomb after pipe bomb and everyone's like what's he gonna say next week that's good tv right there wow wow you i that was very uh yes you've taken you've taken we you see what we just did we just workshopped something there and you really landed the land of the plane look at that and eventually him in LA night they get into it and he's like everybody knows you're just a fake Stone Cold Steve Austin and he can do it with everybody and by the way and just to be clear here there's another really good end goal this character can run serious for a long time and then can turn right back into funny thank god that he's back because the guy's mage and he can do this forever because then in the end i think we all know the r-truth character is going to be laughs right he's too funny a guy to not be laughs but at some point the truth telling could just get really funny it could be absurd truth for it should start serious and then back into comedy uh we'll see about that by the way so live morgan hurt her shoulder yeah that's that's what they're saying dislocated shoulder you mentioned her earlier and it sucks because it feels like she factored into so many plans and she was doing so well on screen she's currently a champion there was the Nikki Bella confrontation and then she's chasing EO Sky around what's happening with her in the judgment day all of those it's like as mage as Becky Lynch has been and as mage as Rhea Ripley is it really feels like Liv was the anchor of the women's division on monday night raw so they lost a huge huge piece well how long so shoulder dislocations how long it depends on the severity right because like yeah we don't know how i don't know i i don't know how severe the injury is um yeah so that that throws the nikki bella thing completely into question and then was there a rebella thing like well that could still be a thing right maybe that maybe they have Brie Bella replace live Morgan I just want to say one thing I know dip you have to go you have a lot of important things to do I just want to say one thing that we've not given a lot of light to and I want to say it clearly concisely and directly this my camera directly my camera

40:14Stephanie Vakare is as mage as mage oh I mean come on that is that is I just we have not given a lot of time i i think she is i think she's i think she's potential like face of the division highest levels mage it could be ria bianca steph again i wouldn't say that i would say what i would say though is that like it could happen what i would say though is you know we think about eras right and then the women's division is similar you can break it down to you know you have the four horse women in Asuka. Then the, yeah, Bianca, I would throw Liv in there too. They came back. And then when this next level of top tier women, Stephanie is at the forefront of that.

41:01Well, no, you're, you're a coward. You're a complete coward. What you just said, you, you, you minimize this completely. You brought her into the, yes, we know her and Roxanne. We are into something and Julia, her Roxanne and Julia are the next thing. Pierre, I agree with you a hundred percent. Here's what makes you a coward. But you're saying she can break through into the current thing. Like, she's not next. She's now. I'm saying she could be within a few months. Like, she's one of the true ones. I think she completely jumps off the page every time she's in a match. She's jumping off the page.

41:30She's jumping and jumping. With the shofars. With the shofars. With the shofars. I think she's jumping up a storm. She's got everything, by the way. The character, the in-ring, the look. bilingual there's a lot going for stephanie vaquer she's awesome obviously they say feel the same way you know she's clearly getting the the i mean the fact that her roxanne and julia are all at the same time it really is sg to your point it's amazing embarrassment of riches i haven't seen the julia thing yet i'm not there yet julia julia is different like julia i think is very mage but it is more understated than to me than it is with stephanie i like some of these nxt these nxt female wrestlers are incredible the nxt women's roster is insane right now listen nxt i would throw evolve in there too honestly because just like the women's division wwe top to bottom they have it's a it's an embarrassment of riches they always have somebody waiting in the way in the wigs to to jump in and now they have these legends from different eras like a nikki bella popped up Eve Torres could have popped up.

42:41Trish. Trish and Lita come back. Like, it's incredible. What's her name? Jordan Grace is mage. Yeah. Saul Ruka is mage. Agreed. When I was at WrestleMania and went to the event, the NXT event, I thought that, I know she's been around for a few years. I thought this Fallon Henley was mage. I was like, what is going on here? You know Fallon Henley? Oh, I know Fallon Henley. Sure. I'm a big Fallon Henley guy. Is that true? Yes. What about J.C. Jane? Love J.C. Jane. Fan. And Mariah May, now Blake Monroe. And now you have Blake Monroe. By the way, I could see myself loving her too. And if you believe Jonathan Coachman, for whatever it's worth, he's saying on his podcast that Britt Baker is coming to WWE.

43:29I don't believe that. I don't believe that eminently. I believe eventually. I think there's a ton of potential on the NXT men's roster too. Yeah. Obviously, I love Ricky. But Miles Bourne, I would put my chips right on there. And let me just throw some more love behind my Evolve people. How about the move Sean Legacy's been making? Sean Legacy's becoming a guy, it feels like. Sean Legacy is mage. Sean Legacy's mage. Obviously, Swipe Right is mage. We feel very strong about Swipe Right. I told y 'all they was next. Swipe right. Whatever happens to the mafia guys, they're both made. They're mage too.

44:10Yeah. They're going to eventually have to figure out where they go. They'll lose that, but they're good wrestlers and they're interesting and they can speak. So D D is great. And don't sleep on my boy, Luca Crucifino. And I was not, I, and I wasn't an Obafemi guy. All of a sudden, big Obafemi guy. You're a big Obafemi guy. Big. I'm all in. I'm all in. I wasn't for a while. I was like, what is going on? What is this? What are they trying to do here? and now I'm Obafemi-ing up a storm. I'm glad to hear that. I may name my first born child Obafemi. Obafemi Dipperstein. Obafemi Dipperstein has amazing...

44:43What do you think about that? It rolls off the tongue. But I like better, if you were to have a girl, Solruca Dipperstein. I like that. I like Solruca Dipperstein. That's good. I think that would be really, really nice for you. I like it. SGG, is there anything that we didn't hit that needs to be discussed today? By the way, we're still backlogged on a Patreon because this week I failed you. Father's Day came. I thought I could pull away. Dipperstein still didn't have a voice. It was your first Father's Day. People, I think people can understand. I know, but I still wanted to deliver and I tried.

45:18Dip was still at 25%. You know, Dip, I was defending you on the Discord. People, in the YouTube comments, people saying, where's Dipperstein? He's not giving us any effort. And I said, no, no, he shoots sick. There was a lot of hate a few weeks ago when I was talking about, what was the bougie shit I was talking about? I mean, there always is. What do you mean? What day was it? Which one? I was talking about the Italian restaurant. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Let me tell you something. Okay. You can give me all the shit you want about. He's, you know, saying these things. Oh, rich people. I'm not that rich.

45:50Okay. Not that rich. None of us are that rich though. I'm not that rich. Okay. But there's more important. There's more important. Well, let me see what you're going to say. i'm making fun of these things okay yes i am i am will do well and i you know it's nice to go to these places but i'm making fun of them i i think it's a joke i'm fully trash the better defense is dipristine is as close as a jew can be to pour white trash from pennsylvania okay he is as close as a jew can be so you have to appreciate but if people don't know you they don't get that that's true i guess if you don't know me or you're not you don't watch listen to the podcast all the I'm still trash.

46:28He's a complete fraud. He is really trash. I'm a fraud. You want to talk about a gimmick. The Dipper Steve gimmick is, I mean, it's taking the wrestling world by storm. No, we're not pulling back the curtain. We're not pulling back the curtain. No, we're the rock. We're the rock. We're not doing this. We're not doing this. By the way, who are we kidding? I'm Rich Galore. Thank you. He's back. Thank you. All right. Well, not so rich that we don't need to do a Patreon. So we got to get to that this week. patreon.com slash stay mage um let's see jay uso was the mystery man and he won his fatal four-way but by the way not not a thrilling surprise that they set that up as like a surprise like a guy who's involved in been involved in everything for the last few months you're never gonna believe it the oracle did call it though i told you it was gonna be jay uso you're very good at this i get why they didn't announce him too right because how does that look the current champion is in a tournament where the prize is a shot at the championship it's like that that makes no sense so yeah i see why they held it open as a mystery contender but this four the four people left in it it's uh it's very interesting because and dip dip has to go last thing we're gonna say there's a there's truffle uh there's there's there's there's there's there's truffle french toast waiting for me in the in the lobby oh god he's got all right that sounds disgusting by the It sounds disgusting.

47:51We have to go. I'm putting truffles on everything now. Truffle makes me sick. But I do want to say, slowly but surely, I do think All In is going to be quite mage. I just want everyone to keep an eye open for that. Isn't it usually? Isn't that like a cold take of this? No, it is. All In is their thing. I may or may not be there. But I think only official matches are Tony Storm. It's less mage if you're not there. Tony Storm and Mercedes, Mox and Hangman, Okada and Omega. That's what we have right now. But when it ends up all getting there, plus, I'm excited to see... Max has a big match in Mexico tonight as we're recording this against Mystico.

48:34Yeah, what a bad guy. Mystico shows up. He attempts to rip his mask off out of the gate. I mean, he's a maniac, this MJF, but he hurts people. There's something unhinged. There's something wrong with his brain. Yeah, no, the man, he literally hurts people. we love you guys stay mage, join us in the discord send your emails of course as well to RosenbergWrestling at gmail.com and enjoy yourself. Take it easy fellas you smell truffle?