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1:00Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was Rappod. It's professional. Wrestling. It is time for Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 on a week when there is a lot to talk about. I'm your forever 24-7 champion, Peter Rosenberg. I am at the WWE Performance Center. Big Evolve taping later on today featuring the new Evolve champion, Aaron Rourke. Very excited about that. Coming to you from Los Angeles. It is 38 to 35, Dip Ristine. Hey, Dip, how are you? Just admiring my good looks today. You know what? That could be a Dip shirt, if we're being honest. Just admiring my good looks.

1:48A man who does the same, a man who does the same, but has something that you don't have. a wife who also admires those good looks it is the physically large stack guy greg hey sgg how are you i thought you were gonna say i have a accurate wrestling takes i didn't even get to fall asleep last friday before i was proven to be correct yet again when i was told that randy orton would not be back to his old self his old heel bad guy self before uh you know there's listen there's no way around it listen there's no way around it you were 100 accurate about what happened dip and i are still right that that was the wrong thing to do i know i do not care it was it was the wrong thing i i wanted cody to go bad not randy i don't get make it well sg just tell me this though why is this the better why is this the better story in your opinion or are you just happy that you're right you don't care which one it was first well it hasn't played out yet you guys know how i feel about this i'm i'm lipo gang all the way let it play out so we have to see how it ultimately ends but i'm like gang yeah by the way what the hell is that and by the way let it play out and as time goes on at sug you may end up lipo gang for real we don't know keep going let it play out we don't know that's the whole point we don't know but i mean look all the signs were right there right in your face every time we saw randy orton and cody rose together with that title he was staring the title but even before that the rock lifetime babyface which i said last week he turned heel to help cody rhodes become a more popular babyface and it worked john cena even stronger of a lifetime babyface than the rock last year turned heel for that championship feud with cody rhodes did it make cody rhodes a bigger babyface time will tell but i mean if anybody was going to turn it was obviously going to be Randy Orton.

4:03Now, how that compares to whether or not Cody Rhodes would have turned heel, we really don't know. There's no way to know. So I fully respect you digging your heels and doubling down on the what could have been because there's no way to prove you wrong about what would be bigger besides this falling completely flat on its face. And listen, that's not going to happen because of the two guys in the match. But I maintain this, and I'm pretty sure Dip's going to agree with me. The way that they did it last Friday on SmackDown was we are going to have Randy go so far and be so evil that there's no way to cheer him.

4:48That's the plan. The plan is we can't just have him just hit a nut shot and Cody's new nickname may be Prince Nutshot. I mean, the guy, he's got, I heard someone else on the station saying it this week. I don't want to rip him off. I don't remember if it was Justin Labar who said it, but wear a cup, my guy. I mean, it is, it's happening constantly. But they said that's not far enough. We have to go as far as possible with Randy to ensure that he's the bad guy, right? And they went far, and it was great, and Cody was gashed open, and it was disgusting, and it was terrifying. and when we get to Wrestlemania dip they're still going to cheer Randy Orton that is my opinion what say you?

5:32I completely agree with you that there will how could you not cheer Randy Orton at this point like I said last week I'm standing by my take that Randy Orton well I have to alter my take a little bit because now he's heel he's going to stand but he will stand he will remain a baby face with the crowd for the rest of his career there is no fully turning him again unless his unless they maybe puts out another insane shirt it's just a red shirt perhaps but there is no more full heel randy orton he's been doing it too long he's too beloved and he's just he's just too bad he's just he's just too much of a vet.

6:20So while we're playing semantics games and word games, let me ask you, what does it mean to be a heel with the crowd in this generation? Because even the heels are still loved. The crowds might boo them out of respect, but even the great heels, so doesn't that make them also baby face? It means fully bought in as a heel. That's what it means. It means the crowd is unanimously against him and doesn't like him. That's what being a heel with the crowd means i would say only a few people achieve that in today's day but it is definitely achievable i.e dom misterio for the last couple of years not maybe not now because all of a sudden you know he's become more of a baby face but like a year and a half ago dom was a heel no question where even though the crowd loved him and appreciated they they booed him They truly booed him.

7:15The way I feel is that because of the crowd's issues or dismay or boredom or whatever it is with Cody at this point, there's something the crowd has with Cody. That is going to factor into them cheering for Randy, in my opinion. And to me, and, you know, listen, I don't know how Cody feels about this. I certainly would think, you know, Cody knows the business better than anyone. I think Cody's so hyper aware of how things work that he has every reason to have understood that the crowd was kind of getting to that place. I just imagine he would have understood it would have been dope to just go heal Cody at this point.

8:00He's been, guys, we've talked about it, this run of Cody now as the good guy face of the company or one of the top two faces of the company. We're at four years of it. four straight years of that and and it's a guy who dip it's a guy who everything about his look his physique the way he dresses he's got legacy he's got all this natural heel in him he's not john cena in that way cody has so much natural heel there we've seen pieces of it before it's not like he's not john cena there's another before go ahead dip sorry sorry randy i would say i would put Roman in the same category at this point.

8:45I don't think there's a chance that Roman, who has done so much for the business at this point and is such a legend, okay? These are things I may not have said five years ago, but I'm saying them now to the cheap heat audience. I would say also, in addition to Randy Orton, there is no way that Roman Reigns could turn full heel again for the rest of his career. I don't know if I could say that about others. at the top. Actually, you know what? I will say that about CM Punk as well. CM Punk, Roman Reigns, and Randy Orton can never be fully heel again. I'm so shocked that you guys doubled it down on this.

9:30We saw Cena do it. We saw The Rock do it. Nope, you didn't. I think these three guys... You didn't see them do it. I think they can do it. No, you're mistaken. I think they can definitely do it. But what I want to ask both of you guys, so if Cody turns heel, right, how do we get there for this match? Because that's the other thing that made the Randy heel turn heel obvious. No, no. Just imagine Randy didn't turn heel. Let's rewind the clock back to last week this time. How does it make sense for Cody to be the one to turn heel in this match with Randy Orton? How do we get there? i don't think it's what why speculate who cares it's not happening it's it's anything could i don't know i'm not i don't write the show i i there there's the it doesn't have the layup but the sg is saying it doesn't it doesn't have the layup that randy has where we have the history of him slapping dusty roads and all i got it not even that far back randy was jealous of cody being the champion you know he didn't he finally let it take over last yeah but that but that never hold on but that never turned into anything so if you'd simply had Cody hit him first and turn on him first and say you'd always been eyeing me you've always been jealous it's the easiest oh oh you were you were supposed to be a mentor to me back in the day there's a million ways they could have done it let's not let's not turn wrestling into to Shakespeare here we can make this thing work very easily it doesn't have the built-in story but it's right there and and then the next week you have him you have him come out and his hair is dyed brown or black the blonde is gone and he is heel Cody with black hair by the way it's it's it's it's I I'm not trying to downplay that you can tell amazing stories in wrestling SGG but I'm also not going to sit here and pretend like the story they're going to tell with Randy turning is going to be one of the greatest wrestling stories ever told.

11:37It's a pretty straightforward, the guy who always turns into the Viper is turning into the Viper. Sure, he was eyeing the title. Sure, there's the history. I think they could have gone either way. To me, there were two reasons why I would have liked it better the other way one is randy is the most organically over with the crowd as a good guy that i've seen ever now i've seen him obviously very over many times but in terms of like he literally gets a pure baby face pop and it's like it's it's natural there were times when it felt like he was working for it. Now he's not working for it. It's, they just truly are like celebrating him.

12:23It's that built in, you're like the last of a certain generation that's left and we love you. And then with Cody on the flip side, some of the crowd has organically and naturally been ready to turn on him. It's, it's just, it would, to me, it's all there. Um, I still think we're going to get it. I still think Cody's going to turn at some point. I just think SGG at this point, they went so far with the Randy beatdown. It was so over the top bad guy that there now can't be a double turn at Mania. He's a bad guy. Cody's a good guy. There's no way around it. Double turn at Mania is a pipe dream anyway.

13:07How often do they do that? I can think of one time and it was a pipe dream. You need one time to do it. I mean, come on. Hey, I'll tell you what, though. Dip, last thing on this. I'll let you get the last word on it. I'll tell you this, though. However we felt about which way you want to go with the story, that's what we do, as Sam Roberts says. Speculate wildly. It's what we're all supposed to do. It was good TV. I was locked in. I enjoyed the segment. The world was talking about it the next day. I cannot deny that. Dip, I'll let you get the last word on it. I was going to say, double turns do happen at WrestleMania.

13:39Powers of pain and demolition at WrestleMania. so it's possible also one of the biggest moments in the history of the business yeah i mean it wasn't it wasn't it was actually at survivor series leading up to wrestlemania so it doesn't happen so your point that was already insignificant because the match is a heaping pile of dog shit relative to the all no relative to big moments at wrestlemania I'm going to fly into Vegas His point was He's wrong again He's wrong again I'm flying into Las Vegas For Wrestlemania 40 What is this? 42 And I am going to find Axe And I am going to find Smash And I'm going to say hey Do you know who Peter Rosenberg is?

14:28And they're going to say I think I know who he is And I'm going to say well he thought your match at Wrestlemania 5 with POP was a heaping pile of trash and you should find him and kick his ass and I'm going to do that if I have to do it at WrestleCon if I have to do it in the hotel please don't do it, please don't do it because it was a great match it was a great match but I was saying the comp for you was already a really rough comp to Randy Orton and Cody Rhodes and then it turned out to not even be correct anyway because it was Survivor Series, it was a true low point in terms of comparisons it was the result of a double turn oh you got it got it was a result um so listen we we are very curious here on the program uh about what you guys think about this maybe some maybe people are incredibly satisfied maybe people are incredibly angry regardless i we want to know what you think we also want people to speculate what the randy orton mystery phone call on raw which was weird but what is that all about 877-344-4893 here's how the show's going from the rest of the way on we we have to we'll obviously spend more time on this throughout the show because it's going to keep coming up we have to talk about Obafemi and Brock Lesnar the the huge moment that really helped shape uh Wrestlemania season in a great way also I we have to spend a moment in whatever way I haven't I don't know either of your guys thoughts well I have I have an idea on dips I don't know sggs but we need to talk about what's going on with Tom Brady it needs to be discussed one way or the other so 877-344-4893 we'll talk to you guys and do more on Obafemi and Brock Lesnar plus of course we're talking about now Randy and Cody Plus Punk and Roman and an episode of Raw, guys, that felt like every segment felt like impactful things were happening.

16:30I thought it was a very positive Raw. We'll get to all that right here on Cheap Heat Live, Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Stalk chocolate reason. If you like chocolate, then you'll love reason. Extra chewy chocolate caramels covered with a rich chocolate coating. Welcome back, everybody. I got to tell you guys, this may not come as a surprise, but it is beautiful in Orlando, Florida tonight. It is 75 and sunny, like you dream about. And I will be in this dark closet for the next seven hours. But then I heard the Aaron Rourke do something tonight.

17:11I'm looking forward to it. Sorry, you were saying to I heard the Vanity Project is having a fret party tonight. Is that true? Yes. Yes. So I don't know if you I don't know the last time you did a keg stand was, but you're going to be expected to do one. I mean, I think we can sign P up for, you know, shotgun in the beer to a keg stand. I feel like he was retired on that one. I can't. Who's going to hold up? It never happens. Exactly. I know you've never taken a keg stand. Never in my life. Get out of here. I didn't drink in college, dude. When would I take you? That's right. Have you, Greg? I'm black.

17:48yeah he's black yeah okay i've seen him i've been around but there's not a chance i'm easily hoistable so yeah so you so you did many i've done some keg stands against your will it was just like you were too close to the keg and then there's been a few against the will i can't say everyone was well there's a few against so wait when you do a keg stand what happens again they hold you upside down they hold you upside down you put the spout of the keg in your mouth and you drink upside down. But what does that do? That's it. You're just drinking upside down. Nothing. It's like a stunt. It's preposterous.

18:26It's like a mission move on the table. It looks great, but you're still just drinking. You can't even do anything anymore with these social medias. Can't do anything. With the social medias? Yeah. With these internets? God forbid I wanted to go to a vanity fair party. A vanity fair party? I said that a vanity project party and do a keg stand. I get people would be taking pictures. I have to put the phones in, in, in, in bags. How crazy is it that I'm, um, I'm going to be working the stand and deliver countdown show. And I went and I said, let me go look at the card and see what they have on, on stand and deliver.

19:10The only thing that is like officially there, there are two matches. and one of them is vanity project defending the titles how crazy is that it's great it's not crazy it's not crazy p why is that crazy yeah it just happens so fast they deserve it i told you about these guys man i told you that you got to watch these guys that i understand we watch involved to get it on the ground floor so now people are watching nxt but they don't know but they're about to find out about these guys listen we all said it we all saw it um i just it's crazy to me that not only are they on nxt but have the titles and they're like it's just and it's funny to me because you know everyone is still not everybody a lot of people guys are still sleeping on evolve like i just it doesn't get talked about on podcasts even on this channel it doesn't get talked about enough people don't talk about evolve they don't really spend time on it it's it may because there's too much wrestling to get to but it's funny because it's already made such a huge impact on nxt it's it's really interesting and it's a very watchable show like a like a real legitimate feeding ground for nxt there's so many great wrestlers in evolve it's crazy cam hendrix um a lot of great talent a lot of harley uh what's his name harley riggins harley riggins i love harley riggins oh yeah i'm a big harley riggins guy a great d-bag if ever there was one harley riggins i think harley riggins is a big star i'm just gonna say it right now all right i'm into harley riggins you've got your eye on harley riggins i've got my eye on harley riggins i love this man's style so so um i i do want everyone to know also we have to get some time at some point and not this second maybe maybe next segment we need to spend a few minutes on MJF and Hangman Adam Page at Revolution.

21:00So we're going to get to that. But before we get to that, I just want to say too, I'm going to jump ahead a little bit because I know you don't want to talk about this right now, but I assume that when he started calling himself Hangman that it didn't mean that his neck was the one that was going to be in the noose every time. Like how many different people are going to choke him out? It's a great line. Hey, by the way, maybe he should change his name. he's getting hung up a storm dude he should be called he's what leave me alone man adam page yeah exactly i'm not bothering anybody don't bother me adam page the man's hanging and hanging all right we'll get there though but for now you know obafemi comes out and and confronts brock lesnar there they did a little misdirect where you have a seth rollins uh paul hayman moment and we got to give love paul hayman can Can we give love to how absolutely repulsive he looked on Monday?

21:56The disheveled, beaten down, bloodshot eye. He's so good. He is so good. He's the most dedicated on-screen performer in wrestling. How's that? He's up there. He's up there. Because he's, Paul is 60 now, right? We said this the other day. And he's taking chair shots to the back. And he's not a wrestler. I mean it's impressive so they do the misdirect with Seth and we end up getting Oba and Brock and you know powerbomb to Brock crowd goes crazy and then as everybody's talked about now I didn't notice it by the way guys but everyone has talked about noticing that Brock encouraged him to step on him SGG you didn't notice it in the moment either right?

22:49I love the step um yeah i loved it too and then after people noticed that he told over the step on him people found other clips of brock basically directing traffic mid-match like they have him telling cody eliminate me from the royal rumble and like he's going over the top and drew get the title drew get the title so it's like it goes back to something that we've said before on this show brock is a pro right he's in that spot that he's in for a reason and yeah if you just analyze him on the surface. He comes out. He looks great. He's dominant. He hits these power moves. But also, the way he's directing these small moments to make his opponents feel huge, I feel like we gotta give some respect to that.

23:36Because, yeah, Oba hit that power bomb and was pointing out the WrestleMania song, but it didn't really pop off until he stepped on his chest and Brock is under him just like selling the effects of oh but it's the fall from grace and then brock directs him and to your point he is a pro and and people don't give him the credit for that because you know i guess he's so scary that it's the idea of him also being a pro who wants to put people over is is not something people but again none of us understand wrestling so right it's we think we know we have no idea his challenges also need to be a threat to him otherwise it doesn't make sense i mean he understands that the crowd he needs to put over a WrestleMania SGG you are on the side of you think Brock is absolutely winning at Mania yeah no yeah I do no way absolutely when I think you're wrong in the short term over defeating Brock at WrestleMania is good for him but it's not Undertaker's streak a win against Brock at WrestleMania, not that it doesn't matter, but it really is short-term gain.

24:46Now, an eventual feud with Brock Lesnar that goes across some PLEs and then you win and maybe retire Brock Lesnar, that is bigger for Oba than he defeats Brock at WrestleMania and then that's it. Because there's two options for Oba if he beats Brock, right? It's one and done and then whoever gets Brock next gets the bigger spot. Because, again, it's closer to his retirement. Or he beats Brock at Mania, and then Brock comes back for that win, and then Brock wins the feud, which does nothing for Oba. Now, if Oba loses to Brock, and we don't see Brock week to week, because we know it's Brock, and Oba's still the ruler, dominating everybody else, and then when Brock pops up, they have that feud, and then it culminates at SummerSlam on one of the two nights, and Oba wins that, then he can say definitively he is the ruler he conquered the beast he's the last one to conquer the beast sent him into retirement and now you have somebody that you can put right in the main event versus i beat brock at mania and he can only run with that until somebody else can one-up him and say i retired brock uh and dip you totally disagree completely completely disagree I think Oba wins at WrestleMania.

26:11I think Javon gets a match and wins. And I think Trick Williams gets a match and wins. I think they put over all three of these two guys at Mania. That's my prediction. We're making new stars at this WrestleMania. But you don't need to win to make a star, though. Right. These days you do, I feel like. In their mind, not in our mind. In their mind these days, the thought process is they need a win to become the star. I think that's where their head's at. They, I'm saying amorphously, as the people in charge of creative. The powers that be. The powers that be. How does that explain LA Knight's trajectory?

26:45He has zero big wins, but he's also a big star. He's got the slim jimads. He's everywhere. But Greg, they're clearly, it's not happening for LA Knight the way that people had thought or intended it to be. I think that that that that look at the end of the day I I can't believe I'm saying I still hope he gets his day but there's a big difference between what they're doing with Obafemi Javon Evans and Trick Williams as opposed to what they're doing currently with LA Knight is there not I mean LA Knight still he feels like he pops the crowd but he still feels like an afterthought in the bookings the other three do not I mean I don't want to say that either to be honest with you the way that Javon's been booked these days but well we don't we don't know where is Javon gonna go for for Mania do we know I have no idea but but I feel like how could they not give him a spot he'll have a spot there'll be something for Javon Evans he's not gonna be in the in the battle royal maybe I don't know I think trick he's the one question mark trick at this point I have no question trick will be in his I think a singles match say it looks like trick gets Sammy that's what it's looking like yeah it's looking like trick and sammy not mad that's poised for a double turn at badia too because sammy's great i would love that i saw somebody tweet that the water bottles backstage hate to see sammy coming because every week they he's knocking out water bottles great that'd be fun why would that be why would that be a double turn though because sammy's a baby face right now and oh you know you're right step is on and but trick But Trick's a babyface too.

28:27That's what I'm saying. So you solidify it with Sammy going heel and Trick just, you know. So it's a single turn. It's a half a double turn. It's a single turn. It's a partial turn. It's a partial turn. But Javon is the one that remains. And I hope Javon ends up on the card as well. I think he will. They're saying the rumor mill has said there could be as many as 14 matches over the two days. So I would think there'll be a spot. guys guys i'm saying it no one's ever gonna listen to me it's a pipe dream a thousand percent i understand it i still wish we got a money in the bank ladder match at wrestlemania i just such a great way to use people or is it gonna be on smackdown the battle royals never there anymore that that's i like the battle royal me too i mean i i have no i think the battle royal on smackdown is not it i do it on the show man like we have time they don't take that long put them on the real show or like um like i said if we could ever do a money in the bank again you know maybe you do one of the money in the banks at mania and then the other gender money in the bank you do the main event of money in the bank i don't know i just thought it was such a fun way that i just thought such a fun way to use six or eight people or whatever uh when you're trying to get great talent in there and the spectacle of money in the bank in the middle of like a mania stadium it looks awesome yeah and with them having summer slam now officially tied to king and queen of the rain like the winner of that gets a shot at summer slam break it up a little bit like you know have the money in the bank at mania and have them have all year to cash it in they got to do it by mania rumble feeds into mania king queen of the ring feeds into summer slam like it does and then the holder of the money in the bank briefcase is just out there for that oh you're saying you're saying try to make try to make king and queen of the ring the replacement sort of ple for money in the bank and just use money in the bank and i think they already they quietly have done that right because if the king and queen of the ring get their shot at summer slam then just make it a bigger deal.

30:38Give them the PLE. It could be the tournament finals. It could be the tournament. I think what happens with these big, with these, you know, the money in the bank and elimination chamber is that they give an excuse to do these qualifying matches that last weeks and weeks of television that, you know, can fill up the time. That's what I'm getting. I'm getting a little sick of the qualifying matches. How many, we usually know who's going to win them with the exception of a few surprises. And I just I don't know it's like we've been doing qualifying matches for a decade enough with the qualifying just tell us who's in it you've had enough you're sick of qualifying is what you're saying I don't need qualifying in wrestling anymore I'm done with qualifying okay I'm hoping guys that the airport is not a nightmare on my return I have the app to show me the weights and I checked this morning at around the same time that I'd be leaving tomorrow and it was like a very manageable like pre-check weight so because these lines i'm seeing around the country man are just we have to just pray that we don't get hit with any of these like that's all we can do i gotta i gotta you too you're going to la in a couple weeks exactly you too yeah la la seems to be fine no la's la's la and new york are just repug in the ways they're always repugged but not in the new higher level repug i'm thinking about flying to missouri for uh for standing and they're standing there's delivering there's a lot you're gonna stand by the way that's kind of like the airport situation it's standing now yesterday yesterday i had an interesting situation so my new move has been um when i when i can not that this is that smart or unique my move has been last flight out of newark trying to hit that like the nine o 'clock 9 30 whatever the latest thing is because guys when you get there assuming your flight's not delayed which is obviously in 2026 an assumption but you get to the airport there's literally no line nothing you just it's crazy you just nothing so i did that yesterday and it allows me um to spend a little time with the baby before I leave.

32:59I got off the air. I fed her dinner and then I get an Uber driver who has never and this is the problem with X instead of splurging for black. He did not like he wasn't confident going to Newark. It was the slowest are you doing X? How are you still doing X? I'm leaving from my house. Like why do I not? Why do I need this? Why do I need to spend an extra $75 or even charge the company$75. I didn't need it. I do it when I need it. But you're not doing X from the airport. No, it was to the airport. So I go, it's fine. And you know what? I'll tell you this. I have a new app I've been using that I can't share with anyone.

33:44I heard about this damn new app. What is it? I don't know. I'm taking Waymos. He didn't share. All right, you know what? Should I share it with the Cheap Heat universe? no no share with you guys in chat no i don't know if it's in la or philly you guys can check i may have heard of it already i live in los angeles don't forget i'm gonna message you guys but i have philadelphia is like the netherworld still i have but it's it's right now it's low key and i gotta keep it that way anyways i ended up doing uber the guy went so slow i get to the airport have you guys ever been in the situation where you're in a rush and you're watching your bag go through the conveyor belt and this person who was scanning, the woman who was sitting at the desk looking at each bag, I could see her brain thinking about whether or not she was going to send.

34:36You know, the bags come down and then it sits in that position, S-U-G, and they decide, are we sending it out or are we having it go to the side to be investigated? Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I could see her. No. Each bag. Yeah, each bag. For 15 seconds on each bag. And my flight was boarding. I'm like, lady, you cannot be going this hard right now. Sorry. I don't let the luggage go. If I do curbside or I put the luggage, until I see the thing on the conveyor belt, I don't leave it set. I don't trust these people. Well, but you're talking about a different thing. I don't even check. Yeah, say like the security people that because if they if the bag doesn't come through, then they're pulling you out.

35:26And that's a conversation that could who knows how long they're going to want to talk. Oh, yeah. Once. Oh, that SGG, because my flight was already boarding. All right. Which which I don't. I really I know dip will will lie and tell you I'm I'm sure I'm running, screaming down the airport. I look like the family and home alone for every flight. Yeah, you are that guy. That's your that. I'm not. I'm not. I've mastered the airport I'm one of the greatest travelers you will ever meet in your life I literally died I don't run at the airport I don't wait in lines at the airport I master what I do and then once every two years you have to run but you in general you're fluffing the pillows you're repositioning the throw blankets it's impossible to get you to walk out of the door I'm not arguing with that part but my airport game is very strong I do not spend a lot of time in the airport It is I minimize the time without, knock on wood, missing flights.

36:23But yesterday, cutting it that close, SGG, I'm staring at my bag, and I go, if they decide to send the bag the other direction and they're going to now analyze it, I'm dead. I'm dead. And you know how slow they open it up, and if you rush them, they start to get irritated with you. Yeah, they get irritated if you rush. My flight's boarding. My flight's, we know. We know. So guys, there was a Pay-per-view In Los Angeles last week Called Revolution for the All Elite Wrestling. Dipperstein, I believe you were there Oh yeah, I caught a couple Attacks To the face First of all, what was the crowd like in there?

37:03It looked like a big, it looked like the best Looking It looked like the best looking arena AEW show I've seen in a while Was it not? Like as far as good looking people I wouldn't go that far

37:17i wouldn't say it was filled with good-looking people you could only do so much yeah as far as the size of the crowd it was quite substantial but as far as looks left a lot to be desired let's just say yeah sgg dip dip has more of an impact on this show than he can have on an entire entire aew pay-per-view crowd um he's only one in but it looked it looked great though on tv and I have not gotten to sit through all 12 hours, but I've flipped through a bunch of parts and I got to watch MJF and Hangman in full. And I just want to say, there's been a lot of blood, there's been a lot of guts. We've seen the blood, we've seen the guts.

38:04We've seen everything that's come with the blood and the guts. And I know people have their criticisms of those things. what MJF and Hangman did the other night was an actual match to remember that was a that was a real Texas death match that I think sort of like lives to the tradition of what that match is supposed to be shouts to Max for wearing the Terry Funk inspired Burberry yeah what do you call actually what do you call the thing that he's wearing the you're like the Burberry Terry Funk poncho was mage yeah poncho yeah yeah now the burberry terry funk poncho from max was incredible and then don't know how many cowboys there are in long island but uh i'll sign off on the burberry poncho i i they just really it it was a really fun match and it went it went through obviously i'm sure you guys have now all seen the highlights the the needle through the cheek um i don't even know if that's the worst thing i'm trying to think of what the worst thing i tried that at home after I tried that at home I got home and I stuck a syringe through my cheek it doesn't feel great SUG did you pop for Max after he stuck the syringe through hangman's cheek I like that he then pushed the water through just for the effect of seeing it go through I tried all these things at home that's like a submission on the table you gotta do it for the pop I'll tell you what though and I'm curious to ask them to ask these guys this the the needle through the cheek looks like the worst and hangman then goes and fights for another 30 seconds or a minute with the needle still stuck in his cheek it's incredible but i feel like hangman dragging max through the glass that and the light bulb to the back of max where you could see the whole line of glass across his back that to me may have been worse than the needle through the cheek it was it was bad we'll try it when i'm there in new york we'll try it for me the worst just because the ego gets involved at this point also was after he'd been hung and then mjf lets him go and Adam Page bounces off the camera and his blood is on the glass, that just heightens the loss to me from an ego standpoint.

40:39Far beyond all the pain. Because you sign up for the pain. But that, when your face bounces off the camera and then your blood is left on the glass, that's embarrassment also. So that to me is good. Do you think that that, like, did that really just happen organically? because if so that's an insane it happened organically for sure i was right there yeah yeah that was blood slatter if they didn't rehearse that that is the most amazing freestyle i don't know for sure but i don't think so it didn't feel that way in the in the arena that was it it it was an epic way to close the thing out um i gotta tell you yeah bandito and andrade's match i mean it was beyond bed bath and beyond that's what i'm going to say with that with that i have i have not watched bandito and andrade yet it's crazy everything everything so far that i've seen from it was great and you know listen we uh we obviously don't break down as much aw here as we do wwe but the one thing i always say people can talk about tony khan all they want talk about AEW all they want when you get to the pay-per-views you are going to have a good time that's just the pay-per-view cards are always just stacked and I can make a great case for the 5-6 match pay-per-view and I can also at the same time love having these ones that may take me a week to watch them but I end up enjoying them as a wrestling fan I'm here for all sides of the spectrum You know what I mean?

42:20Give me the short, efficient, hit you in the face pay-per-view. Give me the long, endless marathon pay-per-view. I love all of it. I'm that big a mark. the one thing that a w that a w that is fun that that wwe doesn't do which i does not surprising and it's not a it's not a slight to anybody but when they when a w a w does the it was on the zero hour but they did a battle royal and you know they're just having a good time in there there's they're breaking kayfabe they're talking to the crowd they're they're saying all kinds of stuff they're barely like they're you know they're playing with each other and like it's stuff like that like there's no heels there's no faces it's just just a bunch of guys having a good time and and if you're right and if you're right up in front and you can see it all happen it's like a that's a that's an experience did you now that by the way that is funny and no they would never do that here for sure no um now real quick um do you take a break dip i mean this is this night is six hours long you were there zero hour i ate i was there for zero hour i i ate a lot of crap it was a crap night.

43:27I had chicken nuggets. I have no idea where this chicken came from. I have no idea if it was chicken. It was a chicken or did you just take what I... It was a repug nugget. A repugnant. A repugnant? It was bad. It was bad. And then I ate a bunch of crap. I had a couple beers. I had a great time. He was out of control, though. So anyways, shouts to MJF. And still, we got to talk Tom Brady and what the hell is going on? Is this a play for WrestleMania? A lot more to do. It's GPT Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Saul Ruka still coming up as well.

44:14Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Marvel Comics number one tough guy, the Punisher, explodes onto Game Boy in the ultimate payback. non-stop shoot-em-up arcade action and a special appearance by Spider-Man from Acclaim. That's right. They're talking about wrestling. They're talking about bagels. They're doing it all. But guess what? There will be no bagel eating dip. Not for the next month. I'm getting it together. I'm in the process of getting it together as well. No, no. I'm getting it together too. I'm getting it together. But do you think you're lying? What are you doing?

44:52What have you done to get it together? What have I done so far? Yeah. Had a good gym week. Had a good, I think, three gym appearances this week. That's good. I am, when I pre-ordered my breakfast for the flight home tomorrow, I chose the oatmeal. I consider that getting it together. Carbs galore. Here's the trick. Don't eat the oatmeal at all. That's how you get it together. That's called together, folks. Don't eat the oatmeal. Yeah, but you are the least healthy, worst. Yours is not manageable. I need to be somewhere between you and me. You just will not eat for a literal month. And then I'm going to see you on Friday of WrestleMania, and he's going to be eating everything and going, I can't stop.

45:50I'm out of control. And then I want to try to actually – now, you're right. You're right. I mean, there's no question you're skipping meals. I have to skip meals. You're not having breakfast, lunch, and dinner for the next month if I'm getting it together. That's not a thing. So most days, breakfast is skipped for me. Most days, I will eat at lunchtime around 2 o 'clock. That is what I will – I basically keep my eating between like 2 and 7 o 'clock, and that's kind of it. that's kind of how I need to operate you doing the personal trainer I can't do a personal trainer right now what is the most what is the least you would pay what is the most you would pay for a personal trainer what is the most what do you think is an egregious amount well the last time I paid my trainer I was paying him I gotta ask Natalie what we were paying but like give me a rough estimate i feel like it was 150 150 something like that so think about this okay and we're all very fortunate people but let me let me not we're all if you're going to this if you're going to the trainer three four times a week i'm not you're talking all right but what you go once what what what is going once do oh do you know lift this to do that do you know do you know the level of money you have to have in my opinion to to pay a trainer like a private trainer not like the person at planet fitness who for an extra 50 bucks will tell you to do some push-ups a private trainer that's what i'm talking about five days a week what do you think i'm worth a hundred million dollars that's insane it's like five grand a month yeah it's a lot essentially it's yeah at least i when i respect their time but you know when i was going the hardest i ever went with my trainer i was seeing him twice a week but he was giving me a cheaper rate than even that and i and i still felt that it was a lot that was a lead up to my that was like before my first wedding so we're like talking about 2012 that was real getting it together you had it together at that time that was together you It felt very together.

48:05Greg, when are you getting it together? He's never getting it together, folks. Why? You done with together? Two out of three ain't bad. You guys are never getting it together again. Two out of three ain't bad. You guys, I'm secure. I'm too secure for getting it together. No, SGG, you have to get it together. Because I got news. I got bad news for you. Dip and I have one major health advantage on you. You are tall. The tall are already not in a great spot. That's true. I'm not super tall No you're not super tall but if you look at the stats As great as it is to be tall It comes around in the end They come for the tall It's true Yeah Listen I know they call the store Big and tall but at some point You're going to have to make a decision Big or tall And I'm going to need you to go tall Alright speaking This is a perfect transition because at this stage in life, SGG may find himself in the big man tournament.

49:08And we are having our very own big man bracket on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. And I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get on until this late in the week. So we weren't able to talk about it when everyone was still involved. And we have our own bracket. Just go on Busted Open's Instagram, busted open SiriusXM. The Cheap Heat region is pretty mage. We actually have Andre and Hogan in the region, and we have to talk about that. Now, before we get into it, I do want to let you guys know the results we have so far. And this is a really fun region. I mean, really fun bracket. Last Sunday, I was listening to Justin Labar and Jonathan Hood break it down.

49:51I couldn't turn it off. So fun. But so far, the results are, and you guys tell me if you agree or disagree with each one. this is how the people voted Kane defeated Braun Strowman no yes you think Braun Strowman is better than Kane yeah I can't even by the way I'm not as far off from Greg as you would think I don't know Kane is a wrestler Kane is an iconic character in wrestling history no question a much more iconic character what are we talking about i'm talking about best big man okay the bell has to ring and then kane has to be the fire has to come from kane it can't just be out of the ring post it can't just be his entrance kane has to be fire and he never ever was great wow is this that never you're insane is this is this the same let me talk for one second is this the same thing as tears of mage Are we judging them on mageness?

50:57Or who would win in a wrestling match? No, it's the best big man. Who's a better big man? What is best? What is better? What does that mean? I don't think the standard. When the bell rings, Braun Strowman will always be better than Kane. What are you saying? Call Dave LaGreca. I want to know. I want to know. Braun Strowman is better than Kane in ring. But I'm saying, what the term in ring? Is that what better means? Is that what best means? I need to know right now. Call somebody who knows. Because if Kane is the best character. Kelly, get somebody on the phone who knows the rules here. If Kane is a better character than who else?

51:33Andre? Kane? No. Andre is better than Kane. In the mages of big men. All right. But, Dip, you can't make every tournament who's more popular, who's more famous, who made more money. It's not popular. It's influential, more important. but is that all i'm sorry kelly and the people of the pro wrestling nation you can curse my language what has kane influenced he's always been undertaker's brother so right he's an iconic attitude eric character he's that's not influenced though are you serious what is bron stroman come on how about how about how about i'm how about i'm kind of with sgg and kane is kind of like the the highest, biggest mid-carder of all time.

52:17What are your thoughts? He was never the guy. Lower mid-card. Kane? No, I said highest. I said he was the highest mid-card guy of all time. Because when you think about it, Kane was never truly the mantle was on him. He was always, it's either he's part of a mage tag team or he's the guy who's with Undertaker. I'm kind of with SGG. I don't agree at all. If you snip Undertaker's tales from Kane, he's nothing wow wow what a take that's why we you know why this is why sg gets paid the big buck it takes like this now who's better him or braun and ring interesting conversation but i like this overall anyways kane beat braun stroman andre the giant beat warlord sorry dip you okay with that yes i am by the way i don't i don't consider a warlord a big guy he's big i don't consider him a big man.

53:11I agree. I'd agree with you. Mark Henry defeated Otto Wands. I'm going to go with Mark Henry. I don't even know who he's up against. Respectfully, Bruiser Brody beat Viscera. We love Big Vis, but he's got to lose to Bruiser. But is Bruiser, would you consider Bruiser Brody? I mean, he was tall, but is Bruiser Brody a big man? I think so. I think Bruiser as big men. Yeah, I think consider it a big guy. I think Bruiser, you're counting. Yeah, he's like 6 '9 and 300 pounds. I'm good with Bruiser. Okay. Big John Studd defeated the one-man gang. That's tough. That's arguable as well. That's a tough matchup.

53:52That's like a 7 '8 seed. Yeah, no, 8 '9. 8 '9. That's an 8 '9 seed. Big Show defeated Barbarian. Sorry again, Dip. Again, Big Show is a big man. Barbarian, a gargantz individual. Vidge wouldn't I would not consider him a big man in wrestling yeah Undertaker beat the Berserker no problems there no yeah John Norton Kevin Nash Kevin Nash defeated Crush now okay Kevin Nash I'm kind of good with big man Crush I feel like I don't consider a big man Crush was tall too though but he was he was big like six six he's not a big man he's not a big man I you have to be a big man He's a large man. He's very fat or very tall.

54:38That's it. I feel like he makes the tall cutoff. Did he? Check that out, SG. I'm not sure if he did. Who are we talking about? Sorry. Kevin. No, no. Crush. Crush? No, he's a medium man. He's a medium man. He's a big medium man. No, listen. He's a huge guy, but he's not a big man. No. His height was 6 '7". I feel like he's right there. He makes the cutoff. So, by the way, Scott Hall was 6 '7". Is he a big man? Who was? Scott Hall. He's a big man. But he's not in here. Scott Hall's a big man. Next to Hulk and Nash, he was the medium man, but he's a big man. Everybody calm down. Everybody calm down.

55:21Kamala beat Ernie Ladd. Fine. Come on. I love Kamala. Why would they even up against each other? I'm good with Kamala. Hulk Hogan defeated Stan Hansen In a match between neither guy I consider a true big man Stan Hansen was more wide than Hogan He's tall But Stan Hansen I mean Hogan and Stan Hansen though I'm sorry I don't know what's going on Rosie is a big man Okay That's a big man One man gang is a big man I feel like he's in there If you can be considered for Mount Shlopmore you automatically end the talks for big man. I agree. I agree. Ben Benson's a big man. Who is on Mount Schlumpmore is in the tournament.

56:08Okay. Big Boss Man has defeated Earthquake. That's a great matchup. Hell of a matchup. Could go either way. That's another 8-9-er. Vader defeated Typhoon. Yes. Good. That makes sense. King Kong Bundy over Blackjack Mulligan. Yes. Very close. Bam Bam. I know close he's on one Bam Bam Bigelow defeated Haystacks Calhoun that's going back that's going back too far one true big man Haystacks is not going back as far as Otto Vons yeah yeah yeah Otto Vons how about that it's too far back currently Umaga is beating Gorilla Monsoon and Yokozuna is up on Sid Vish that's a good matchup too I gotta tell you I may be looking at Gorilla Monsoon is tough No that's tough That also feels disrespectful It's too far it's too old Gorilla Monsoon A few hours left to vote on those Kelly put a call into Jonathan Hood who came up With this tournament to try to get an answer But he did not answer the phone Come on Jonathan Hood Go vote right now On Busted Open Sirius XM on Instagram We're having a great time with that here Everyone of course very excited for the big Busted Open party WrestleMania weekend that Friday night from 7 to 9 p.m.

57:32It is going to be a great time. SGG, have you decided on Vegas? I forget. I think I'm out on Vegas this year. You're on the fence? No, I think I'm out. Oh, so you're not on the fence. You're stepping off the fence. I'm stepping off the fence. I might be watching from home. You Vegas-ed enough. I Vegas-ed enough. I wanted it to be New Orleans. I thought about doing Vegas again But you know I mean I think I'm out I hear you listen I hear you Listen you were only halfway in last year Seriously You watch Sunday at home Those prices man you know You gotta make these real decisions Decisions need to be made on what makes sense I feel you dog Alright so speaking of mania Tom Brady has been doing This thing with Logan Paul This trash talking of Logan Paul and professional wrestling.

58:29Yesterday, I forget. Let me see. Kelly, did you put the Brady audio in of what he said yesterday? Is that there? I forgot. Oh, here it is. Tom Brady issues on WWE. Zach, this is in the P drive. Do you have that, Zach?

58:47Go ahead, take your time. Yes, I have it ready to go. All right, go ahead. Thank you. How many WWE wrestlers would it take to sack Tom Brady? No, all their stuff is so cute and scripted, and they know what's going on in a football game, you don't know it, so they wouldn't even get near me. Plus, if I had a good offensive line, they'd punch those guys right in the throat, and they'd be probably crying. And, you know, there's no fake BS we do in American football. So for those guys, it would be a whole different story for them. so here's the thing folks I don't want to spend too much time here they're obviously building to something okay there were rumors a couple of weeks ago that Tom Brady had merch right SGG that there was some sort of copyrights for WWE merch and then Tom Brady I just want to say this now that Tom Brady has outright said the words fake stuff and what was the other word choice he had in there sgg cute cute cute's his favorite cute's the one that he's been running a lot which is funny which is funny considering your whole brand your whole life has been being cute but whatever cute and fake are the words he chose to use now that you went there instead of like there was a million ways he could have gone and in my opinion wherever it landed is fine now that tom brady has used the f word on wrestling if he doesn't personally get at least smacked in the face if not worse i hate this i have no interest i if time if this ends without tom brady getting physically touched up by professional wrestlers then this was done wrong no one should ever no one should ever be involved in a wwe thing in which they use the word fake unless they are going to get touched at some point so if this just ends because what i'm where i'm guessing this goes sgg i'm guessing right he's being such a heel and it's with logan Paul who's never going to be good so I feel like at the at the at the of the Fakakta football game they're going to come together and both be heels together that's my thought that's my assumption that's equally stupid it's that's that for that if that's what it's leading to it's the best case scenario but it's still very bad because then why is Logan Paul co-signing this at all because Because Logan Paul is also, here's how I see it.

1:01:24Logan then would lean back into the, I'm an outsider, you guys are losers, and he's kind of ishing on the business. Like, I could see there being a play for Logan to do that, but here's the problem. If they do that, for me now, it's not enough that Logan Paul would get beat up. I need Tom Brady beat up now. Yeah. So is Tom Brady getting beat up at WrestleMania? That's the question. because if so if not i mean i'm good i don't need his involvement i he's a great super bowl champion regardless say it again sgj um brady needs to get beat up regardless what he said is he's gone he's gone way too far with the with the f word and and cute sport number one to answer his question to the question how many superstars would it take to sack tom brady one and his name is roman reigns and that's the answer so let's not even get in how about everybody how about it was by the way the question is obviously a silly question the answer is every single person in the locker room basically besides Peter Rosenberg and Sam Roberts can tackle Tom Brady what are we talking about the man is a brittle old man who never could move in the best of his in the best version of Tom Brady.

1:02:41He was an absolute statue. So the whole thing is ridiculous. And yes, if the point was to trigger wrestling fans, congratulations, you did it. Now someone needs to beat this man's ass. That's what has to happen. Because the point is not just to trigger us. It's to trigger us and then give us some sort of entertainment value. And the way they've set it up now, the most entertaining thing for me, and I think most other fans, would be to see Tom Brady get punched in the mouth. Maybe some blood, but I'll take a bloodless punch in the mouth. Some sort of punch in the mouth has to happen. Anyways, we've given you enough time, Tom Brady.

1:03:21Hey, Dip, who do you think was on the phone with Randy Orton on Raw? Any thoughts? I like the Dan Housen idea. I mean, it could be that. I'm not joking. There's no way it's Dan Housen, dude. It's not. Is it Paul Heyman? he seems to be on the phone with people all the time the guy's calling he's calling people up a storm I that's a great great question by you also I did not expect to see the Bellas come back last week I thought that was a well done that they put out Brie had put out last week that we thought we'd be back we haven't been back at all and then they came back on Smackdown last week and want to get in the tag title picture it looks like guys I guess we're going back to Becky and AJ Lee for WrestleMania scg is that where you assume we're going that's where i assume we're going i wasn't expecting us to go there but um i mean she's back she whooped her ass she touched the title so so all signs pointed to that so the one thing we have not gotten to today and we have to get to it before but there's a it's a good sign there's a lot of things happening is roman reigns and cm punk on Monday night now SGG you are a believer that Roman Reigns got the best of CM Punk in this promo I am I am he got some lines off in there that made me you know they were like some battle rap lines you know when he said he said it and my reaction was like wow you know like like what tell you give me give me an example so these lines weren't necessarily explosive but they got the reaction out of me right so when he said the one that keeps jumping off in my head was you know he talk to punk about, you always complain about my schedule and worrying about what I do.

1:05:03And it shows that after all these years, and I'm paraphrasing, after all these years, you still don't know how things work at the tippy tippy top. So that's just what we do on the level that I'm on, which is a level that you know nothing about. And for me, I feel like that even more than you're old and you can't hang with me in the ring and the bell's got a ring and I'm going to ragdoll you, even more than that this idea that punk still doesn't know what it takes to be at the very pinnacle of the business i feel like that was more of the the knockout blow than anything else that was said dip were you surprised at the the the line that like triggered punk to throwing a punch just being you're old

1:05:51I watched it again I watched the segment for a second time And I liked it a lot better the second time Okay A year old is a mean thing to say to somebody Especially when you're CM Punk It's not great It's not a great thing to hear And I think it did warrant a punch You think it warranted a punch? Yeah It warranted You don't think Punk was already aware That he is old? i don't i he may not be fully aware he don't

1:06:27i can't believe this i i'm i'm gonna disagree with dip a little bit on this i don't think you're all by itself warranted the punch but i think it needed more right i think you're all been saying that like you're all you know intimating that because he's he can't hang in the ring and like he's trying to do everything else because he knows that eventually he's gonna to have to fight him and he's afraid because he's old then that might warrant him because you know now him punching him is more about i'm not scared than just like i'm old and i'll have to punch you because you stated a fact that is confirmed by my birth certificate that i knew you know i knew this fact this whole time it's not anything salacious i i just i really didn't i i just was surprised that old was all we went to.

1:07:20That surprised me. Here's what I was confused. The one line I was really confused by was when Roman said, make it like your top tier. When you're talking about top tier, you should ask your wife. That was an odd insult. People think that a lot, but that's a big thing. Oh, you mean it's an odd insult because punk is clearly top tier? Yes. Oh, yeah. I hear what you're saying. Like, yeah, I don't know. That insult didn't make sense. He should mention AJ in some way to keep the heat up. SGG, are you surprised that we didn't get a mention of Larry? I am. I feel like they could have done that. But then given Roman's explanation of like, you know, you're not in my head.

1:08:05Like, I don't care what you say because I'm waiting for the moment that the bell rings to thrash you. I can see them not. I can see him not getting in the mud with Punk. You know what I mean? It's the classic of, you know, never argue with a fool because people won't be able to tell who's who. I could see Roman not even taking that bait and going there with him. Not not wanting to muck around the muck in the mire. I shouldn't argue with you anymore than SGG. Now, do you know that I worry, though, there is a chance, guys, that. like people will be so upset about the Larry line that like it's not even doable because it's so fresh because it'll turn Roman heels it'll make people hate Roman right because it's the only way to truly truly like be a heel is to say something about someone's deceased dog there are people who love dogs more than humans so you can definitely i know i know one he's he's he's hosting this podcast with you you could definitely disrespect somebody's dead dad and the dog would be alive because because here's the thing this is why it actually makes sense not i'm not talking about roman i'm talking about in general hear me out dad dead dad versus dead dog generally i didn't know your dead dad like that but i know a dog like we know dogs dogs you treat dogs the right way they're undefeated all right there's no bad dogs there's only bad owners that what dog lovers all know that so there is a world in which they can't go there because they just don't want roman to be that level of heel you think randy was bad for beating up cody if he it insulted cody's senior dog it's worse is it possible that punk is also just not ready to go then like would punk shed legitimate tears if larry's name was not invoked the right way there well how about this i could say this i could say there's a world in which maybe um you know him and him and aj talked about it and they're just like we don't want to do it like it is it is on the table i mean listen sika was a wrestler you know for a fact sika is down for whatever yeah his his life was wrestling larry never made that decision the best way you can honor wrestlers to keep disrespecting after they're dead just when you think somebody's not about you get it get that one more mention and the name's hot in the streets again i remember i remember that exact conversation when people request it was about cm punk when people were questioning whether cm punk should be throwing around paul barra's urn that was right after paul barra died Right after.

1:10:53It was the day after. It was like, oh, well. Let's break this out. That offended me. That offended me at the time. No, it didn't. I was like, whoa. Very offended. The crazy part, didn't he dump out ashes too? Me? Did he dump it? Oh, yeah. Ashes were. I believe ashes were dumped. I believe ashes were dumped. He did like the snow angel in the ashes? Yep. He did a snow angel in the ashes? I feel like I remember that. are you sure now that i'm thinking about it roman you should whoop his ass one time before mania for mentioning your pops i'll take it all back because he goes very far anybody's family so you gotta whoop his ass um all right guys we have uh more program to get to i'm told soul ruka will join us next although i haven't been out of the studio to see if she's actually here but i'm told soul ruka will be here it's cheap heat live on pro wrestling nation 24 7 promotional consideration paid for by the following new world wrestling federation superstars cookies from solano great tasting cookies in 10 fun to eat wwf wrestling shapes welcome back to cheap heat live um soul ruka is not here she's been snatched folks she's apparently been snatched the soul has been snatched um but hopefully she will be here in the meantime though some news came down this morning curious to get your guys thoughts uh Dennis Rodman is the latest inductee into the WWE Hall of Fame um we can discuss his accolades I mean listen whenever we talk about deserving of the WWE Hall of Fame is ridiculous enough deserving of the celebrity wing of the WWE Hall of Fame is even more ridiculous than that.

1:12:47So I think neither of those things are really worth analyzing. To me, it's just analyzing how mage the class is. I am going to say that with Dennis Rodman's being the fourth name, this is the most consistently mage class, I think, in a while. Dipperstein, I'll start with you. What do you say? I mean you know how I feel about the celebrities in the for the one appearance they're in the hall of fame of wrestling I don't understand I never understood it frankly we had more than one appearance he had more than yeah it was for the one for the one run run I don't know it was a run one run uh but uh look I bought the action figure with the green hair I own it I was a at that moment I was a Rodman guy right when I was playing with my toys in that moment in 1998 Rodman went over for sure every time so that's all I have to say about that one of the great rebounders or was it assists was it rebounds you don't have to pretend to do that dip you don't I didn't pretend I didn't know I asked we don't have to go that far dip the ball hit the rim he grabbed the ball and he did that the most times if anyone he did that the most times that anyone else ever did it Um, last year when, with the, the, the main names we had, it was, it was triple H, Michelle McCool, Lex Luger and the natural disasters.

1:14:20Right. And then of course the legacy names are always made, but we can't, we're not going to go into all the legacy names because they're made every year. Right. And varying this year. so far as we stand right now we have Stephanie McMahon AJ Styles demolition and Dennis Rodman pretty damn good like it's from a from like a impactful and solid so like the demolition gives you demolition and AJ give you true wrestling fans inductees like in the case of AJ and demolition no true wrestling fan is complaining about either. Stephanie, of course, is iconic. I mean, no matter how you cut it, Stephanie was great on screen.

1:15:14She's important behind the scenes. She's a trailblazer. Stephanie is 100 % a big deal and famous. And now you get Dennis Rodman, who is a big deal. And here's the thing, Dip, we can question, again, I think it's silly too, but we can question, oh, well, what a deserving, dude, that moment, the Rodman merch from the era, it was a big deal. I own it. It was big. The only thing, Greg, the only thing that would make this Hall of Fame class more deserving and mage is if we included Kane. Okay. He's already in, which is. which is good for and deserving of me so it's a travesty itself um yeah keep him as far away from this class as possible yeah but yeah you think barry horowitz should be in the hall of fame he should by the way harrow it's one of the great joe bears we have of all time he should be in the hall of fame glaring omission now i wonder what the moment will be remember last year they introduced the moment we had brett and stone cold that's a good question the immortal moment which is a great way to induct people again who are already in the hall of fame that's what what would you guys think well let's throw out some possibilities and let's let's keep let's try to use uh both people or all four people whatever it is the people involved in the immortal moment are all with us yes let's let's think of immortal moments and we'll ask the nation oh this is it i came up with this goal see sol ruka's not here and we've already stumbled into gold folks 877-344-4893 the immortal moment to put in the hall of fame this year where everyone involved at least the primary players are alive when when kane interfered i know okay stop you're gonna keep going in the undertaker hell in itself by the way nothing would be more tip nothing would be more typical and and yawn than it being like a cane undertaker moment like they like they've been there a million times and also i gotta say long-time listeners to this show go ahead have heard and seen me and dip go at it like we go on at like that the hat feels in the McCoys, Bloods and Crips.

1:17:44Me and Dip have gone at it like this on the show. So him making the Kane joke is an admission to me that he knows that what we said about Kane is true. Get out of here. They better than Braun Strowman? He knows that what we said is true. He knows that when we say that Kane is ass, I won't put that on you, Pete. Kane is ass. You're calling Kane ass. He knows that when I say that Kane is ass, that is true. That's why it became a punchline in the same show because if you really felt strongly about this this would be a war there would be listeners calling in we would be getting tweets we'd be we'd be going over this for the next two weeks it's already a punchline because dip knows you're insane right you have lost it you need a lobotomy kate is a joke and it is funny so keep making the cater no no no lobotomy buddy hilarious listen you guys are now getting it's getting personal it's getting deep i'm not convinced that Braun is better than Kane.

1:18:44I think Kane is an, I think if you were to ask the average wrestler, I'm sure they'd tell you that Kane is a much more proficient professional wrestler than Braun. However, I will say Braun Strowman, that run around the ring, the sprinting 6 '10", 300 pound guy. I like him. It's an interesting contrast to Kane though, who, here's my biggest criticism of Kane Kane is a wrestler. I get it. I get it. He's a big man. And he was sort of a horror character. And to some degree, I don't like that. His only speed was prodding. He did not have, he didn't have another gear. The gear was always very sort of, I don't know.

1:19:32He didn't have like undertaker is a big man to bigger than Kane. I can get and gets going. It's a limited skill, Pete. I mean, it's a skills issue. Okay. All right. Let's go to George in Long Island, too, who has an immortal moment. In the meantime, you two yo-yos, think of a good immortal moment. Let's go to George on the island. A serious one. Yeah, a real one, Dip. Don't mock this entire segment. George? Good afternoon, guys. How's everybody doing? Hello, George. All right. We're going immortal moment. You want both people still here with us. We have to go WrestleMania season. Mr. WrestleMania himself.

1:20:15Give me the greatest WrestleMania match to ever happen. Taker Michaels, WrestleMania 25. It's a good moment. I would argue the Iron Man, like, sitting in the ring with the belt is more of a moment than the Undertaker-Shawn Michaels match. How about this? How about this, George? it's too recent for me I don't need it to be Undertaker he's been around too much right now it's like not enough of a thing if you want to include Sean though and you want to go recent history do Sean and Flair while Flair's here to get roses one more time while Flair's here to get roses one more time I wouldn't hate that one you know what I'm saying SGG you want to do a modern one I don't hate the I love you moment between Sean and Rick.

1:21:08Go ahead, Deb. I have another great Shawn Michaels. Thank you, George. Another great Shawn Michaels WrestleMania moment. WrestleMania V, when Akeem, when it was Twin Towers versus the Rockers, the clothesline from Akeem to Shawn Michaels is one of the great WrestleMania moments. They made a card, a trading card of that moment. That is a often used moment in clips of WrestleMania moments, montages have you ever seen that clothesline i i i remember the clothesline it's a strong clothesline one of the great clotheslines of all time you think just that clothesline he's i think he's zero within on the moment that's the moment that clothesline is one of the defining clotheslines what about what about i wouldn't mind a moment could we think of a moment that involves jake the snake where the other person where the other person still alive yes Wrestlemania 7 the blindfold match yeah how about that that was a great feud by the way great feud great match I enjoyed that but that's Rick Martell yeah he's never come back for anything I would love to see Martell out there that would be great getting Martell back would be great yeah I'd love to see martel and tito up there in the hall of fame together both alive both look great true too that's true too many a moment everybody is still alive okay uh i don't know i don't know how people are going to feel about this but this is it feels like a good pick to me out outside the box uh ray mysterio winning the championship for eddie it gets randy in the hall of fame him and card angle are both in the Hall of Fame already.

1:22:57They become two-time Hall of Famers. All right, fine. I'll give you that. It's just I want to try to be alive is the tough part. One person can represent the moment, but for everybody to still be alive, that narrows it down. Dude, when you go back to like the Piper's Pit moment, no one's around but Jesse. Morton Downey Jr. is dead. Yeah. isolated that's such a random thing to say but yeah you're not getting piper or when i think of piper's pit yeah oddly that's the first thing that comes to my mind yeah i know that's ridiculous but that's the first thing that comes to my mind that was one of the most awkward weird i don't know why i'm so obsessed with wrestlemania 5 today because it was one of the great events of all time i i just don't i i i that is such an awkward bizarre interaction between wrestler and celebrity i don't know when the last time you saw that was oh it's oh recently it's absolutely insane real quick and also I always forget the Hogan Andre moment was in the snake pit right but Piper was there no it was Piper's pit it was Piper's pit got it Jake was not there okay sorry but the look of Piper but Jesse was there and you're like why is Jesse there but Jesse was there with Piper and then Heenan comes out with Andre and that's how you have the five of them correct right you end up with five what do you mean the five yes yes yes it ends up being correct the the craziest um snake pit moment was when honky tonk hits him over the head with the with the snake jake over the head with the guitar to me that's the most iconic snake pit moment oh rock and austin they'll do at some point right they have to yeah what about big boss man hanging from the cage at wrestlemania 15 the gray moment that was mage oh what else how about brett and gold dust brett and gold dust that mania no that's not mania that's not mania sorry sorry what about i was thinking piper gold dust and piper brett and i combined it into another match that didn't exist at wrestlemania yeah it's really i hate to say this but once you go back before the recent era everyone's dying everyone's dead yeah it's so sad like because even 20 is a lot of rips at 20 do you think like do you think we could get like and then also you know even when you get to wrestlemania 10 a lot of people are gone and then the really good manias come up you know you're in the teens already so yeah it's challenging uh but i do wonder whether there'll be anyone else big that they induct into the hall of fame they are they are airing it again at that odd time of after SmackDown on Friday night.

1:25:55I have to ask you guys. Why do you think there's no way to come up with a Hall of Fame event that's just on its own night? I don't know. Why does you have everyone together in the arena? You don't have to move everyone, transport everyone again. You don't have to. It's convenient. That's why. But can't they just do it Thursday at like a smaller, nicer venue? I agree. I think it should be in a theater. But do you remember earlier in the show when I said Dip made one of the worst comps ever because the comp he made wasn't even true? Yeah. It happened again. Last year, the Hall of Fame was not in the arena.

1:26:35They had to transport the people at SmackDown to the arena. And different fans took in both shows. Remember, Dip, you were with me. You were with me. We were at the Fountain Blue. They did it at the Fountain blue smackdown was at t-mobile the people still had to be transported no oh you're right you're right i know all right don't yell at me okay so why can you know about this go ahead nothing far away from this but a couple weeks ago when you and dip were on the show you made a suggestion that dip is really selling right now i forget how you set it up but you said the dip is always so emphatically wrong all the time that there needs to be some sort of some sort of punishment some sort of comeuppance and here he is just selling that idea i think i don't know if he's doing it on purpose dip i don't know if this is a bit you just being so wrong today but every once in a while the man is very wrong kane is more important than braun stromenton in the annals of time okay is his story i want to i want to say something about the celebrity wing of the hall of fame too also okay i feel like dennis rodman is an obvious pick that i didn't see coming anyway even though he was so obvious but and setting aside obviously the peter rosenberg who definitely needs to go into the celebrity wing of the fame at some point i feel like this could have been a year to induct arsenio hall into the hall of fame it'll be all the fate what he arsenio hall yes listen zero zero moments on wwe television zero no one knows who he is anymore buddy no one knows who arsenio hall is anymore unfortunately that's the perfect time to put somebody in the hall no no wait i'm not going with nobody knows who he is anymore you're going nobody knows who he is no i would say the average wrestling fan the average teenage to early 20s wrestling fan does no idea who that is sure i that i agree with but do they know demolition more so i mean yeah they know them sgg i appreciate the sentiment dip he interviewed everybody he was like a true celebrity friend to the wwe like his interviews now are so good dude he sat through interviews with ultimate warrior for god's sake here's the bigger question who inducts rodman ddp that's as long as it's not carl malone could be carl malone i'm good on carl malone yeah okay how about jay leno like it oh that's a good one i like it he looks i think he looks pretty old and washed if we're being honest i'm sensing one oh it's it's giving wash but i i DDP, DDP would certainly make sense.

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