We Can’t Mist All the Time

0:27It's Jeep Heat with Peter Rosenberg. Rosenberg featuring StatGuy Greg and Dip.

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1:14I'm your Forever 24-7 champion coming to you from New York. Beautiful day in New York City, I might add. At least Riverside Park looks tremendous. Always does. Peter Rosenberg. It always does. And that voice you hear is someone who used to know about Riverside Park. But he decided to trade that in for a statue of a fictional character in the city of Brotherly Shove, known as Philadelphia. It's that guy, Greg. Hey, how are you? The most beloved person from Philadelphia? Maybe outside of Benjamin Franklin. I think Benjamin Franklin has like a good 200-year head start on him. But I'm going to say Rocky.

1:50No, Rocky's way ahead of Ben Franklin. There's more stuff named after Ben Franklin. That's a fair point. There's the Benny. There's way more statues of Ben Franklin around here. Yeah, you know what? He deserves his props. I will say this. Based on recent events over the last couple of years, I think I like that Rocky is a fictional character. So I'm very into Rocky, the fictional character. And then coming to us from Los Angeles, the home, Hollywood, California, the home of fictional characters. It's the very real 38 at 35 Dipperstein. Hey, Dip, how are you? I am by far the most important person from Philadelphia and on the Mount Rushmore of Philadelphia in general.

2:31And from Philadelphia, geez, am I right? Philadelphia, geez. His mayor wasn't, you know, but we his mayor wasn't the mayor. Can you at least name a childhood mayor from Philadelphia? Come on. I'm not sure I can. I don't think I could name that. SGG just knew one. Mayor Nutter. Yeah, yeah. Oh, right. David Nutter. A great guy. One of the great Nutter. I remember Nutter. I remember Nutter. When you think of the Nutters, David is the top Nutter. Let's see. Hold on. Let me go back to the prime Dips childhood. You don't remember Mayor John Street? I remember Donovan McNabb. What about John Street? Hold on, and how did you forget Ed Rendell?

3:25Oh, Ed Rendell, of course, of course. This is Mount Rush of Mayors. By the way, I've met Ed Rendell a couple times. A great guy. One of the biggest hands in the biz. Biggest hams? Hands. He's got huge hands, Ed Rendell. Giant hands. Yeah, he's got big hands. He is Ed Rendell. How old do you think Ed Rendell is at this point? 80. 80 is he 80? he is 81, good job Dip 81 there you go by the way he was very popular for a time and by the way his wife's original his ex-wife's original last name was Osterland which is the definition of Okerlinda Jays welcome to the program everybody there's a lot going on in the world but there's nothing I'm more shot out of a cannon about than something that happened directly related to this channel and our fearless, fearless captain of the ship, the man who started it all at SiriusXM.

4:30I'm talking about Dave LaGreca. That's right. Did you guys see that the great Dave LaGreca met The Rock at Sirius yesterday? I did see that. I saw that today. How could I not see it? It was everywhere. It's being posted. By the way, it was Michael Nutter, not David Nutter. Get your Nutter's right there. David Nutter. I'm mixing up my Nutter's. David Nutter is a TV producer, and Michael Nutter was the mayor. Anyway, yes, I saw the rock thing. I saw the hug. It's all over the place. so so you know uh dave lagreca ran into the rock who is doing he did a big town hall at sirius he's doing the promo for the smashing machine there was a premiere in new york blah blah blah all the things are happening i'm very excited to see this film i have not seen it i have to tell you i know dave lagreca for a long time for those of you who don't know i've been working with his brother don for now a decade so i've known dave for a very long time and i've known dave independently just since the very beginning of him doing wrestling stuff at Sirius.

5:45In all the years of insane things that man has done, and there have been insane things, and I hope that one of his co-hosts called him out for this today, he decided to gift The Rock the pink robe that he was wearing in the rant. He took it out of, it's in one of the pro wrestling halls of fame. They took Dave's robe. He took it back from the Hall of Fame and gifted it to The Rock. Now, as Sam Roberts said in the conversation that they had about this, right when he told them this, that he did it, Sam, what do you think it was? One of Dusty's robes? I mean, yes, number one. But number two, The Rock had a full day.

6:34Or he said, sorry, he said, what do you think it was? Dusty's Rolex. Yes, exactly. It is not Dusty's Rolex. It is not a dusty robe. It's not a flare robe. Okay. It was an actual robe worn in the home of Dave LaGreca. A big moment in the history of busted open and what became pro wrestling nation. What the hell do you think the rock is going to do with that pink robe walking around? I got news for you about where the robe is. Someone Kelly, whoever's at the office, go search the trash cans because it is sitting in the bottom of one of them. Absolutely not. You can't. You can't hand a man of that importance a gigantic full-size adult robe.

7:17It's never making it to his house as GG. Two things. It's not making it to his house, but I think it made it to the bus. I think The Rock was smart enough to at least ditch it after he left. Who do you think he tossed it to when he said someone do something with this shit and just threw the – This was a meaningful item to Dave and to the channel. it should be put on a mannequin in the background behind him every day it should live on the best case scenario is it's getting left at the tarmac next to the private jet the wheel may run over it on its way taking off to los angeles i will say this though it is an iconic robe that is the robe that was being worn the moment dave lagreca galvanized all of cody's fans and all the cody crybabies yes and and kick-started the final leg yes movement that got cody the championship so it is it is an iconic robe i don't know if it means that much to the rock but it is well sgg you're you're making the point for me the fact that it was an iconic robe is why is that is the is exactly why it's a shame that it's currently hanging out of a trash can on 49th street right now that's exactly what makes it makes it upsetting for me anyway shout out to dave that was a fun moment you could of course check it out on all the social media and i'm sure dave will be talking about i'm busted open for the next five to eight years we'll we'll hear about this um that's appropriate yeah i think that's the the right amount of time uh and i am very excited to see the smashing machine dip you haven't seen it yet no no i'm excited to see it i think it comes out today i'm told he's i'm told in the film he's smashing and smashing that's no it's good it's a There's a lot of buzz about it.

9:00There is legit Hollywood buzz. I can tell you right now as a Hollywood man, there are a lot of people. I got to tell you, every single person who I talk to has said, have you seen it yet? Have you seen it yet? What do you think of this? What do you think of that? That's the dipper scene. Well, I mean because they know you. You love wrestling. You think it's great. You think it's great. You love MMA. This is right up your alley. Even more so than what was the Von Erichs film? I forget about that. Iron Claw. Iron Claw. Even more than Iron Claw. This is right up your alley. I think it is. I think there's a chance I see it today.

9:37What are your thoughts? I would love to get to see the film this weekend. I'm going to try to get to it ASAP. Maybe it'll be on one of my – maybe I can watch it on my flight to Perth. I have time to watch it legitimately 11 or 12 times on my way. I'm not going to be able to watch it on your flight to Perth, unfortunately. You don't think so? I think you're going to do that. What if they, on the charter, bring in a screen and screen it for the whole charter? It should be a screener. It should be shown to the entire federation of the world wrestling. So we sit now eight days away from Crown Jewel in Perth.

10:17We have four matches on that card. And one match that's been getting a considerable amount of time is the tag match. Asuka and Kairi Sane versus EO and Rhea. And there was a lot of strong feelings about the opening segment to last week's program on Raw. Adip, not your favorite segment of television you've ever seen. Not my favorite. Not my favorite. I got to tell you, though, I'm a sucker for Myst. I'm looking, if somebody wants to Myst me, just randomly, if you know anybody on the street, I mean, we all have a lot of mutual friends. If you could just tell one of them at some point to have missed ready to miss me in the face, I would really appreciate that.

11:04Now, if the segment in general, I get the segment in general. I just don't know what is going on. I got to tell you, I you know, Amelia Sparks broke it down pretty well for me. And it made sense after I read his gigantic test that text explaining what this story was. But to me, I can't decipher what the story is between all these people. I think it's just they're there. They don't trust each other. Is that really what I am? No, no. It's more it's more of a history. It's it's help me get deeper. Help me get deeper. He explained it to you. You probably treated his text the way you treated the television.

11:39You started looking at other things on your phone. You drifted off. But it's no, it's it's a story about family and history. And then the Rhea, the Rhea of it all is sort of a random fourth piece like respectfully sg am i wrong that person could have been whoever eo had something going with at the moment and eo and ria have like their respectful friendship rivalry thing going so it ends up being ria but it didn't have to be ria did it sg yeah i don't think it had to be ria it could have been bianca um because i think if you look at that wrestlemania match in all roads pointing back to that it could have been either one of those two but it definitely had to be either Rhea or Bianca.

12:23Otherwise, then it just feels super random. Who do we think it would be the least trustworthy? Greg, Greg, who do you think is the least trustworthy out of all these people? If you had to throw it. Kyrie's the least trustworthy. Really? I think Asuka's the least trustworthy. You think Kyrie's the least trustworthy? Kyrie's the least trustworthy. Oh, I see what you're saying. Asuka's being more obvious about how she feels, whereas Kyrie's playing both sides. You know where everybody else stands, and then she's the one I think being the most emotionally manipulative because it's never been about how EO feels or how Asuka feels.

12:58It's Kyrie's upset and now we need to do this because I'm upset to make me feel better. And that type of emotional manipulation could easily turn on its head. Like it's the first big red flag that you're dealing with a monster. Not that Asuka blows up all the time. Not that EO's independent but that this person goes into their emotional hole and expects you to come to where they're at to make them feel better rather than dealing with their own feelings. She drops that picture on EO. She cries to EO to apologize to Asuka. Kairi's the real threat. It was, I think, what kind of attention are you paying to this?

13:36He's paying so much attention, but I'm, the general, the general, yeah, you gotta watch the product, it's true. I will say the general feedback seemed to be the same. No, Dip, can we just be honest, have a moment here? You and SUG both watch the product. He watches it harder. Can we be fair? I know. I know. There are stories that SUG could tell you every detail of, and you would go, there is no story. They walked into a ring. They had a match. There's no story. SUG could tell you every beat in the story, and you would be like, those are two wrestlers on Monday Night Raw, and that would be all you know about the story.

14:10So we have to admit, I'm closer to you on a given week than SUG. He's very into details. but here's the thing here's the thing i could watch that segment with them five times and have the same emotional and result about it well but i think you're making yeah i think you're making a statement that you guys still might find middle ground on which you just didn't think it was a well-executed segment i mean that and there was a lot of there was a lot of criticism of the acting in the segment like you're not the only person up and down the board i found that criticism it's everywhere and i i also added to that criticism I shared that.

14:44I didn't think it was a well-executed segment either, but answering the question of who's the least trustworthy, it's Kyrie, and I'm just pointing back to what we've seen on screen for that. I could never say that. What he's pointing out is a very basic through line of the story. I know. I'm just trying to provoke you because I enjoy it. Because there's two things. There's the fact that the acting left a little bit to be desired on Monday, and there's the fact that you were looking at your phone the entire segment. These are two different things altogether, both competing for you trying to understand the story.

15:18But you didn't necessarily land on the wrong side of history, which is I heard earlier this week Bully and Dave talking about this as well. Dave pointed out, Dave I thought made a really good point. I think it was Dave. Yeah. He said, I really didn't need the entire in-ring segment. They could have just skipped to the part of Kyrie leaving Io the picture. and that would have done enough in terms of what's next in this story we could have skipped the misting we could have skipped the screaming and crying the misting is everything it's all about this thing but you also have to save the misting we can't mist all the time i know we can't just i agree with you make me miss the mist make me miss the mist i can't just have it constantly hold on when the great muda missed it and it was like four times a year you were like oh my god this man he's been saving this mist where did the mist come from now you're just expecting the mist now it's a there's a misting every week yeah and ever and now it's blue yeah i was like green it used to be green there was a moment where there was a red misting muda did red misting although he did green as well he did green in 89 a few times I would like to see I'd like to see an orange mist maybe a multicolored mist SGG you were saying?

16:40Let me ask you this do you think those segments were just out of order a little bit? because I feel like if she gives her the photo first and then we get to the in-ring segment it actually does make a little bit more sense than just completely cutting the in-ring segment well I think he was just making the case that either way you just didn't need all of the back and forth it's almost like they telegraphed so much by showing it And I just feel like sometimes these segments, they end up exposing talent who just gets a lot heaped on them. You know what I mean? To tell a story like not every story has the same level of performance and acting.

17:17Every everyone's different. And I just think you have to be mindful about, like, who are we heaping and like a 10 minute segment of storytelling to start the show? Not that they can't ever do it, but are they ready to do it in this moment? Does this story demand that? Is it the right way to do it? I thought it felt a little bit long, but at the same time, I think we have made it to a point where people will care about this. And I am curious now about what the next thing will be for Rhea. As this match, you know, we talked some, SGG, you speculated about Rhea turning before we got to Australia.

17:47That's not happening. No. But could there be another? We got to get Rhea out of this. That's what needs to happen. That's my perspective. I need Rhea out of this story and on to something else. I think Rhea is being intentionally, intentionally, cooled down is the wrong way of putting it, but I think Rhea is having a moment of like, she's an important stuff, but we're like, yeah, we're keeping her away from the title. We're not having her involved with the top line thing yet, just because you can't have her in it every second of every show all year long. I know. It's kind of complicated. When you get like this popular, it's really hard to like we kind of take for granted how hard it must be to storytell with someone when they've gotten this big.

18:39Listen, there's a lot more to get to from this week, from what's going on in Crown Jewel in general, from so many things. Plus, we have to talk to the people. We need a John Cena update. Oh, there's so much to do here to start the show off. We'll also open up the phone lines now. if you want to get on the conversation on any of these things did you love the opening segment of raw did you absolutely despise it where are you at 877-344-4893 877-344-4893 we'll talk to you guys as the show goes on and do much more it's peter rosenberg stack guy greg and dip it's cheap heat live on pro wrestling nation 24 7 promotional consideration paid for by the following get ready for the ride of your life in Total Recall.

19:22The NES game based on the Schwarzenegger blockbuster movie. Defeat the Marshall Mutants, Secret Agents, and more from Acclaim. I am in the process of getting myself together for Perth. I've never traveled this far. I'm slightly nervous. But I'm trying to be calm, guys. When are you leaving? I leave Monday morning at 8 a.m. to go to Dallas. And you get there four days later. then i will get to dallas yeah basically i get to dallas i will go to the hotel and i will do my radio show from the hotel that day and then i guess at some point i'll either go to raw or meet people at the airport i don't know how it works i don't know yet um yeah and i'm checking a bag because i'm going across the world i feel i need to check a bag for this yeah of course what of course you're checking a bag you don't have to deal with any i was having a question you you can't deal with anything on that plane except for comfort that's the number one focus is comfort so i just want my backpack yes i'll have a backpack with me that's it i would bring nothing i gotta be honest you you what kind of leg room you have you must you better have great leg room i i have good i i've been told thank god thank you to some wonderful people i have been secured with quality leg room on the way there yes i will be fine you were stretching i will be stretching pushing up a storm.

20:46I got news for you. I appreciate that. Dip wants you to have good life. I feel like if this was Dip getting on the flight, he wouldn't care. Just take a seat. But he did just say something crazy, SGG. I'm on the plane for 24 hours. I need an iPad. I need chargers. I need a book. I need some stuff. I need drugs. Take a sleeping pill. Then that'll be that. I want you to... No, but do me a favor. I want you to be conscientious. By the way, I want to be clear. When I said drugs, I meant my anti-inflammatories and the thing I have for my digestion, just to be clear. Okay. Yeah, exactly. No drugs that require allegedly.

21:22Tums and Pepto-Bismol to keep... By the way, the drugs I take... By the way, I'm not kidding. The drugs that I take are basically prescription Tums and Pepto-Bismol. That's basically what I take. Yeah. I've been taking a cleanse things. I bought something. I was sucked into buying a cleanse thing. You bought a cleanse thing? Yeah, I did. I did. I got to be honest. You can only take it a few days in a row because then forget it. Then it's like you become addicted to the cleanse. Really? You're getting addicted to the cleanse? Yes. I'm addicted to a cleanse. Wow. I need cleanse rehab. By the way, speaking of eating, Dip, how was your breakfast?

22:03It's like now I look at the smorgasbord of food at this celeb-filled breakfast that I go to. And it's really, to be honest, just the giant Shiva getting getting Jews together to eat is like they're all these things are all just interchange. It's the same thing every time. You know, the Shiva food is the same thing as the breakfast food. That's what I'm finding. Well, yeah, of course. They're called bagels. It's bagels. This is this breakfast. This breakfast. I have a crazy, gigantic, enormous, like buffet of crazy things. do you not have a it i mean this is also 150 people i go to one of these gargantz i've never go to an illuminati breakfast i'm not gonna i'm not gonna lie i'm going to an illuminati breakfast what you're saying sg i can't describe how unrelatable it is it would be like i don't even know beyond beyond it would be like it would be like me asking you if you know what life is like and by the way my mother is dion warwick and i've been worth a hundred million dollars my whole life I have no clue.

23:10150 people and like work people and celebrities. I don't even at a break that. Yes, I could not identify less. Yeah, I don't. I don't. My break fast. I would love for you to come to this. I was the only one breaking fast history with me. Solo. There's there's there's bartenders. There's caviar. It was little lockers with caviar on them being passed around. Let me ask you a great break. What person in the country? Mount Rushmore at Breakfest. My guess would be it could be probably number one. I've never heard of Dip. Can I bring you back to reality? No one does what you're saying. There's not a person listening, Jew or otherwise, who knows what you're talking about.

23:50The most that people would ever have at a Breakfest, S-U-G, it's like the equivalent of like – it's like at its biggest, you'd be talking about like a big Thanksgiving. Like 30 people would be like a big – This is Thanksgiving plus. But I'm just telling you, you don't think this is normal, and other people do things like this. Do you? I do not. I'm very privileged in this scenario. No, but did you ever – this wasn't weird to you the first time you did this? It was, and then I got used to it every year. And now that's all you want. And now that's the only way you're – I'm only breaking the fast the only way.

24:23Let me ask you a question. Are you actually fasting or is it just going to dinner? I was going to say, you have to fast. You can just show up to – if you invite it. I had a few peanuts. do me a favor don't tell god okay i don't need i don't percentage of people what percentage what percentage of people in your guesstimation at the break fast actually fasted 30 percent yeah but by the way nothing gets me madder i'm not going to say who but there is a there was there was family members who are no longer family members but they were family members who for years i'd be at the break fast with them and these people wouldn't fast and we'd get to the relative's house to break fast and they'd be the first ones online i'd go can you at least let the people who were hungry you just had lunch this isn't a break fast for you this is dinner you can't stop and stop overreacting hold on hold on if you were starving see this is how i know Now, SGG, this is how I know he had more than a few peanuts.

25:31This is how I know. Because I'm telling you right now, if you actually fast, when you get to the 23-hour mark, the hunger gets – It's not 23-hour. 26, whatever the number is. It's the night. You can eat at the night, and then you don't eat during the day. That's what it is. SGG, I just want to ask you real quick. Who are you going to believe here? That's for secular – SGG, SGG, who are you going to believe here? Which way are you leaning when it comes to believing somebody? You live in extremes. No, I don't. What dip said makes sense, though, that it goes like sundown. It goes night to night. No, it goes night to night.

26:09But generally, after dinner, if you're not, if you're not. I'm sorry. But I have leaned it towards you. I don't know what the technical rules are. You don't eat a late night snack. You don't eat breakfast. But after dinner on the night before is the end of the eating. And then you don't eat till five, six o 'clock the next day. It's not five. It's not five to five. It's more than five to five. It's usually more. What do you mean? It's not five to five. You're saying it's like a religious person. No, you're a religious person. You know what? You are going to burn. You're going to burn. They're not even going to consider sending you up.

26:48You're going down. All right, buddy. You're going straight. I'll go wherever. I'll go wherever. The first thing they're going to say to Dip is, how long is the fast? I'll go whoever had me first. Wherever there's no line. Wherever there's no line, that's where I'll go. Wherever Dip knows someone at the door, and I got news for you. You're going to know more people downstairs. Yeah, of course. You're going to know a lot of people. Some of your favorite wrestlers will be there. You're going to get waved in by some of your favorites. I'm not going to name names, but they're going, oh, I haven't seen you in a long time.

27:20All right. So now that we've covered the break fast, we've covered my flight to Perth to some extent. Although, again, I'll have big updates when I return. I'm going to try to do the show live next Friday from Perth. So if I do the show live next Friday, guys, it will be midnight for me in Perth. I would do it midnight to 2 a.m. in Perth. Good. That's when you're doing it then. That's what I'm going to try to do. I'm going to check the Internet when I get there. I'll see you there. I'm going to see you there. You're meeting me? And I'll see you. I'm coming to Perth. I've decided. Big for you. Dip, were you excited to see Rusev?

27:56Excited to see your boy Rusev get in an Intercontinental Championship match against Dominic? Yeah. Why not? Yeah. You know, it's always Rusev Day in Dipper Lago. I know. Every day is Rusev Day. SGG, what's the bochinche, the chatter, if you will, on the Bayley storyline with Lyra Vicaria right now? Are you enjoying this indecisive or erratic or bipolar, whatever version of Bailey we're seeing? I'm enjoying it, but I got to admit, I don't know what's going on. I don't know. Are we getting like a broken Bailey where she has like these split personalities? I think it might have been Dip that described it as like the three faces of Bailey, like the three faces of Foley.

28:42At least it's a character. I like it. It's a character. It is something. At least they gave her something. it's something yeah i wouldn't say something plus i would i'm not going something plus it's something i i actually agree with dip like i actually feel uncomfortable watching it which means it's something like i'm watching it going oh is she gonna turn on her again oh is she gonna hit her here is she gonna be friendly to her here that is by its nature something and i like the obvious thing to do would have been to just go back to hug her bailey the fact that i thought I think that's the next phase.

29:16Don't you? Well, at some point, it's going to be. With the things, with the big balloons. Bailey buddies? I love the balloons. Big balloon. Big belly balloons. What's the catalyst for this break in her mental state? It can't be just because she lost. At least when Golda started, we saw him get electrocuted. When these things happen, we see. Well, she did have that promo. No, she did have that promo where she just said she feels completely lost. She's never felt more lost in her career. Who is she? What's she doing? She's a failure. Like she did give us like this. I'm failing. I don't know what to do vibe.

29:55So she's beating up on Lyra Valkyria. Let me tell you, Lyra Valkyria has got the short end of the stick a couple times now in a row. But Becky Lynch treats her like complete garbage. Then Bailey treats her like complete garbage. When is somebody going to treat Lyra Valkyria like a human being? that's what I want to know at least at least with Lyra getting treated like complete garbage we see it every Monday night that's some character development Dave's robe getting treated like complete garbage we don't know where it is this is it in 49th street is it on the bus I'm glad you brought up that robe I'm glad you brought up Dave's robe because I just I have these beautiful beautiful Louis Vuitton sunglasses that I got in Europe because you know no taxes and I'm going to put them on right now because I never get an excuse to wear them and I look tremendous in them but also guys i don't know if you remember i wore these glasses in my rant about goldberg that went viral my plan is to give these to goldberg i'm gonna find goldberg and i'm giving him the you know what the difference is the difference is if i gave goldberg these beautiful sunglasses he especially with the box he'd put them down put them in the box he'd hand it directly to Gage or whoever was with him at the time and go, free sunglasses.

31:13Bring these home. The robe, you're wiping your nose, you're throwing it in the garbage, it's a thousand percent. By the way, Dave said to him, want to see if it fits? And Rock's like, I'm not putting this on. He said that. He's wearing a beautiful... Rock's outfit. Rock was wearing a polo shirt and slacks and shoes. His outfit was probably$7 ,000. He can't put your cock. He could have put on... Listen, SGG, he could have, but he decided he couldn't have. Now, speaking of The Rock, I don't know if you're familiar with the bloodline in WWE. It's a big story. And we saw the return of SGG's GOAT, many people's GOAT, Maya's dear friend, Roman Reigns, who came back, lo and behold, can you believe it, to protect the Usos?

32:07can you believe that the Usos to protect Jey Uso we'll get there that's a good point thank you thank you to protect Jey Uso dip can you believe an episode of Raw ended with the Usos fighting with Bron Breaker and Bronson Reed I've never seen that before so but this time things were about to get really bad and Roman showed up and what S.U.G. alluded to is what I think is the main in my opinion the question of the day today which is what is going to happen with Roman Reigns and the Usos. It was obviously super specific that Roman showed no love to Jimmy and all the love to Jay. SGG, there's not an authority in the world more equipped to talk about this than Stack Eye Greg.

33:00What is going to happen next with Roman Reigns, Jay Uso, and Jimmy Uso? I'm hoping that this is the storyline that puts Jimmy Uso on the level of where Roman and Jay is like that main event stand on his own level I'm hoping but at least it seems to me that this is what Jimmy was talking about right when Jimmy turned on Jay he said it was because he saw Jay getting too much like Roman, that championship, it changes you and you're going to become a version of yourself that you might not even like, that Jimmy definitely won't like. And now that Jay has had the championship, he's seeing it happen in real time, that Jay is quoting Roman.

33:47Now Jay's suddenly going to smash people and wreck them all and do all of that. And that Jay is actually becoming Roman to the point where Roman sees himself in Jay and Jimmy is seeing his worst nightmare come to fruition. Tried to stop it, but couldn't stop it. I got to tell you, I'm having trouble telling them apart again. What? I'm telling you. I'm telling you. There's a couple of times where I'm like, wait a minute. That is such a throwback. That's so funny. By the way, that is a funny idea. I'm not just saying that. There was a period. SGG, at what point in their career did you know which one was which?

34:28Because don't say it was the very beginning. No, no. When I realized that the face paint was like they always painted a certain side of their face. That's the beginning. And they never switched it up. So I was like, that's how you knew who was who. They always stood on the same side of the ramp. And then I had no clue. And they also had their name on their shorts, too. That was a big hint. That is, you know what? That's a good point you make right there. It took me a while. Even into the day one or whatever the – what was the first? Yeah, it was day one-ish. Day one. Even into that era, I didn't – I was having trouble telling them apart.

35:09Like only until they completely separated them was I was like 100 % sure. Well, it's not because Jimmy always used to wear the hat. And I think Jay had the bandana, but Jimmy had the hat. It is funny. They're very similar-looking twins. Yeah. Yes and no. Yeah, I guess you're right. No, I guess you're right. If their hair is any similar, like if their hair is the same, they look exactly alike. But A, they do things that are different. And B, their energy is so different that in person they don't seem similar at all anymore. But on TV. I get it. So, SUG, you said that you hope that this is the storyline that leads to Jimmy standing on his own.

35:53that would mean to me that roman and jay are going to do something to jimmy they're going to teach him a lesson in some way oh yeah i think so i think so but are they straight up going to go against him is it going to be like a turn like i just don't know how exactly are we getting there well that's the thing right it wasn't never with jimmy and jay even if you go back to the beginning of the bloodline storyline jay got tested physically all the time which strained him mentally sure but he was always the one that got like the ass whoopings and jimmy got like the emotional tests it was jimmy that joined the bloodline because jay was getting beat up jr rome was like you know you you're supposed to be protecting your brother you're the big brother he has to go through this physically because of what you're doing so i think it's it is going to be more emotional you don't think it's gonna be a test on jim you don't think you don't think they're gonna beat him down though and it's just him versus them no i don't think so dip do you what do you think i think they're gonna juxtapose like him from a morality standpoint i i again like i i just it's not the whole thing is not that interesting to me yet i need something more than like like i i'm i'm you'll totally disagree with me both i already do but i'm of the mind If you were going to turn Jey Uso, you'd do it in one fell swoop with something dramatic and big.

37:24Now, dragging it and dragging it weak, it's now been four or five weeks where it's like he's a tweener and we don't know if he has bad intentions or not. I'm like a board of it. So now, you know, Roman Reigns comes back. To me, like I – and you know how I feel about Roman Reigns. I've turned a 180 on him. I'm into it and it's great. but like it's not like a huge deal for me to see him back like to me he's never gone he's like i don't i don't like i don't know that's fair i didn't know he's the type of guy who's who's gone all the time he's there i don't i don't think you need to like i totally agree that like it's a normal thought to not every time go oh my god the otc is back no he's part of the show i don't feel that that's that's a fair that's a fair i agree but yeah i i hear your concern here's my only thing i'm down with it taking time i'm down with a little nuance if you guys are new to the show and you haven't listened to dip over the years dip wants the biggest most aggressive thing at each moment all the time that is your kind of storytelling that you like sgg is wrestling sgg is more on board for a longer more nuanced story yeah go ahead because i'm telling the truth about you it wasn't even an insult i'm just telling a fact but go ahead in certain circumstances is you're telling the truth about me.

38:39There is oftentimes, I like a long story that is long-term storytelling and they take time to tell something. But it's like, we've seen the, the Usos have been the, have been main characters on TV for 10 years at this point. It's like, we've seen many versions of them. We've seen them as bad guys. We've seen them as heels. We've seen them as faces. Like dragging out a story now where Jay is maybe, is he or isn't he, is just like, I'd rather have seen it, just him go from colorful to just a terrible guy instantly in two seconds. That's not what's happening. It may prove out that that would be better.

39:15Yep. You do appreciate long-term stories, but you also do complain about it until it clicks for you. When it clicks, then you show that appreciation of the long-term story, but you're not patient. By the way, I will say this in agreeing with Dip. Fair. I would have enjoyed just an outright Jey Uso heel turn. If they end up turning him, I might agree with Dip that I would have loved just a surprise super kick to his brother, and I would have been super into that. Yes. Because he's such a babyface that I would have enjoyed, while he's in the midst of still getting all the babyface love, the complete and utter heel turn would have been fun.

39:56No question. And the only other thing I worry about when it comes to these subtle day-by-day will-they-won't-they is that over the last few years, and we've seen this with the Street Profits many times, the will-they-won't-they over time kind of turns out to feel like it's just like they didn't make up their mind. They really didn't know what they were going to do. It wasn't part of a plan. It was a literally week-to-week, we're not exactly sure. so I hope with characters as valuable as the Bloodline and the Usos, whenever it does happen, whatever it is, is super effective. Let's talk to you about this and much, much more.

40:36We've got to talk about TNA and NXT and everything happening there with Showdown next Tuesday. 877-344-4893. 1-877-344-4893. Your thoughts on the Bloodline situation and so much more. It's GP Live, Pro Wrestling Nation, 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Iron cologne. Rugged. Sexy. Distinctively masculine. Pump some iron today. I guess, guys, and by the way, I'm Peter Rosenberg. StackHide Greg is here. Dip is here. Phone line is now open. 877-344-4893. I'm being told so far that recently the only thing anyone wants to call and talk about is John Cena. so if listen if that's what suits you and you want a fantasy book john cena feel free as i said last week i imagine that would be a topic from now until we get to mid-december and we did learn officially that it will be it's december 13th is that the day sgg yes december 13th saturnite's main event is the reported last uh john cena show in dc you want to something interesting about that by the way well personally interesting i don't know if anyone soul out there will care besides me and maybe sgj you know dc i have not at any point during my eight years in wwe done an event in dc never i've never gone home ever for work not one time ever and i don't think how far did you live from the arena how far did you grow up from the arena well it's a different arena This is Capital One that used to be the MCI Center.

42:21So if you want to go back to like heyday attitude era, it was the MCI Center and then the Verizon Center. And that's where they had – I think Ray versus Eddie for custody of Dominic was there. There was a lot of big stuff there up until 04 or whatever. But I grew up going to the Capital Center in Landover, Maryland. a true dump of an area for a stadium. I don't want to diss all of Landover. There are parts Landover that are Landover Mall. It's okay. But the stadium area, because it's now where the commanders play, it's a nightmare. The most repug area of all time. But just huge parking lots and nothingness.

43:07So, yeah, I grew up 30 minutes from there, but this is in downtown D.C. in Chinatown. This is a 25-minute subway ride from my parents' house, and I just have never, never done it. So I'm planning on going. It's on my calendar as of now. I do feel it's only right. When I got back into WWE in 2005, it was because of John Cena, and I was going whenever WWE would go to that arena. I was there, but I have not been back in, I don't know, nearly 20 years. But by the way, a random place in a lot of ways to end this whole thing, if this is in fact the end for John Cena. I wonder what his connection is to Washington, D.C.

43:49There is none. There's none. I'm telling you right now, there's none. There's a calendar date that they had in D.C. I believe that is the extent of it. I don't think that there's any part of it that's connected to him. and also Saturday night's main event is sort of a random event to close it out with which last week if you listen to the show is why it made us speculate is this in fact the end at all this better be yeah I don't think it is okay I it better be lights out amazing okay just I'm just that's I'm just saying how could it be at this point how could it be that seen this last night this Saturday night's main event better be mage M-A-J the highest loves I'm just saying here's where I want you to lower the bar on your expectations just a little bit right because the rumble is next and then that kicks off the road to Wrestlemania and I think by that point Cena's last match or whatever this ends up being whatever the exclamation point on this journey is it's immediately going to get overshadowed by like who knows what in 30 days.

45:06Yeah, well, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. With this.

45:16I'd be excited about the gobbledygooker. That's really the only person. Fufu Shma Shma or the gobbledygooker. These are the only two. These are the only two opponents that are acceptable to me. So let me ask you this about John Cena. What? When he finally does retire, where does he go in the montage? Does he go to the then section or the forever section in the then now forever? I think forever. That's a good question, by the way. I like that question. By the way, it's a new intro. When did we get the new intro? A few weeks ago. I love that they included the Warrior 6 thing. That's all I look for.

45:51I look for the Warrior 6 rope shake. It's there. Gives me the goosebumps every time. Oh, that's, that's, that's, I look for Brett. Yeah. You look for Brett? Oh, yeah, of course. That's the thing to look for. That's a great question. Who do you look for in the intro that makes you feel good? That's there. Okay, good. They're there. No, it's, but the answer, the only answer is Brett. And I'll tell you what. The only answer? The only answer is Brett. And I'm going to tell you what. Because Brett is the one who could be easily the most underappreciated. he has openly trash talked triple h recently and it seems to always yeah so there'd be perfectly good reason for them to be like you know what enough with the brett nonsense already right like it wouldn't i get it what he's undeniable to those of us who know but like yeah sgg do you see what i'm saying there could have been a world in which they decided yeah enough with brett it could have happened it could have like and like you said i don't know if i would call it trash talk because i am a brett apologist slash defender i think he just has a dry sense of humor and it's harsh it comes off very harsh but i mean like you know he is somebody that who has been underappreciated by wwe in the past and could easily have been again they put him in the hall of fame for the third time this year he's a mainstay in the intros and they could easily who are you looking for it, Greg?

47:21Oh, yeah. Brett and Roman. Brett and Roman are the two that I look for. Was there anybody surprising in there that was in there? Yeah, pull it up right now. We're going to discuss this. Alright, so first of all, they open with this new TV look or whatever. I've seen this before. I don't know, like a version of it before. Starts out old-timey, although they include... Mae Young? Is that Mae Young? That is Mae Young. good spot there Gorilla High Chief Okerlund and Dusty and then Andre in the middle of course by the way major respect to Okerlund though yeah he's so major that's just major and it must be some recognition you know what I would love to talk I gotta ask I gotta find out who specifically edits this thing I'm going to ask this today I want to ask Adam Panucci who edits this thing and how much direction is there like how specific is it of like we need to because it's really important this airs before everything every single show from Evolve to Wrestlemania and by the way Succession coming to Evolve in a week from Wednesday the big special on Tubi but yeah on every single thing you get you get this intro And you get the dusty polka dots, though.

48:48Like, why is it not the dusty, you know? True. They could have shown any of them. Yeah. All right. So that's who's first. Then right to Savage. Yeah. Sounds good to me. Into Flair. Savage goes into Flair. Flair goes into Piper. That was a second of Piper and Snuka. Is that Hogan Andre? Yeah. Hogan Andre slam. Hogan Andre. This is really quick pausing here. Brett, by the way, I will say it's a fast Brett. It's a fast Brett. It's there, though. Brett, I mean, Sean's quick, too. Foley, split second of Foley off the cage. Split second. They're all split seconds. Split second of Rock and Austin. Trish, instant.

49:37Trish, Lita. Lita, instant. It's nice that they have Trish and Lita. For a long time, it was just Trish. yeah Trish and Lita makes sense to both be there yes no that's a cool SGG is that no she's been in it before I think I think she has I'm not sure Triple H Old Mist into Triple H right now into Triple H both Triple H highs loves Triple H he transitions to now oh they have him transition from the then to now yeah Yeah, because you saw Now pop up on the screen when Triple H. And now it goes to Now with Triple H. Then goes Cody. Then goes Charlotte. Then goes Miss Lynch. Punk may get the fastest second of anyone.

50:23Punk, we're putting you in there. Was Punk in between? He'd get it. But that's Pipe Bomb Punk. It's Pipe Bomb. It's Pipe Bomb Punk waving the camera. That's pretty incredible that that's in the signature open, right? Crazy. That's a crazy thing that we would have ever guessed. Not only will Punk be back, they will put the pipe bomb in the signature open. All right, so Charlotte, Becky, there's Punk for an instant. Into Roman, both belts, right at the camera. Into Seth, into Jey Uso. That was so fast, I didn't even see. You guys see what that was? Oh, AJ. Oh, the phenomenal forearm. It's the phenomenal forearm.

51:06Wow, AJ. Into Bianca Hair Twirl. Into Rhea. Makes sense. Into Randy. Into Drew. Sword Up. Into Liv in the Ropes. Into Steph. Future Hall of Famer. That's right. Future Hall of Famer Steph. Into a New Day. A very quick New Day. Throwback New Day. Look at Big E's hair. Into Miz. Into Brock. Into Logan. Into Taker. Now we're in forever. Taker was the forever spot. Forever is a mage spot. Yeah. Forever is mage. You got to have. Who's better for first forever than take. No scene again who never died. He must be in the forever. Yeah. Cena's already there, I guess. Into warrior. Into Cena. Who gets a long one.

51:56I was able to pause it. Into Eddie. Into Ray. Into Bruno. Into Sean. Into Hogan. Into Austin. into Bray, into Rock, and that's the closeout. Hey, they did a great job. They did, but I noticed some snubs. I'm not going to lie. Well, Brett didn't get forever. Brett got then. He didn't get forever. He got then. He got then. Hogan got then and forever. So did Sean. Some people, so did Sean. So did The Rock. So did Austin. Brett, come on. Brett deserved a then and a forever. We got Roman and we got Jey Uso. no Jimmy in the now no bloodline at all in the now outside of Roman and Jay that is the only no Naomi if they showed they showed New Day from 10 years ago they could have threw in a bloodline from two years ago yeah but they got it was Roman signifies the bloodline and Jay was there what are you talking about no I mean listen I mean we love Big Jim we love Big Jim but the truth is the reason we're talking about Big Jim needing his moment, SGG, is if he wants to end up in the signature of him.

53:06That is the thing. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm sorry. That's the reason. Do you remember our band shirt? Yeah, of course. The shirt that we cannot release? That was Fashioned After Bloodline shirt. And on that shirt was Roman, Jimmy, and Jay. Even if they don't do solo in, like, the Sammy. Roman, Jimmy, Jay, Heyman. That was, come on. And Heyman is not in there at all. All of Heyman's guys are in there. Seth, Brock, Roman, and Punk are all in there. No Bobby Heenan. No Heenan either. No Heenan. I'm glad Warrior made it. Heenan was... We know. We know.

53:51Heenan was in the old one, wasn't he? Let's look at an old one. I believe so. Bob Uecker was in one. Bob Uecker getting choked out. Hold on. You know my favorite montage ever. You know that one, which is The Lonely Road of Faith, 2002. NWO comes back. Ric Flair intros. The Lonely Road of Faith montage is the best one they've ever done. We've talked about it many times. Was it a signature? No, it was not a signature. It was just a montage, but it was like this. And it was the history of wrestling. And it's the most emotional one ever. well we i just want you to know that we love wrestling and we think it's great i think it yeah i love it i'm a big fan so so so by the way the one i'm pulling up here is from the early 2000s the world is watching classic my so my i love that it has that opening remember we we talked about this once on the podcast before we found the audio of where that was from um the first couple of words uh let me play it for you here's here's this is the world is watching from probably 20 years ago it starts out with like old-timey wrestling this is a good one this is a good one starts with old-timey wrestling came oh it starts with vincent k mcmahon first then into more old-timey wrestling i can't right i don't know jay i'm sorry i said k it's vincent j yeah starts with v j m now you do have stuff going on on the sides here but it's small there's a bunch of stuff on the sides and then you have the old-timey wrestling in the middle.

55:20What was that face? Blassie? What was that face? Blassie. Yes. Into Mula. Mula into Bruno. Who was that? Bockwinkle. Bockwinkle into Gorilla. Into Andre. Into Vince. Into Orndorff. Into JYD. That's a pipe for everybody. Why is that high quality? The bagpipes. Oh, sorry. at the bagpipes could have told you by the way look how bad the video is that we're looking at right this is a prudafilm we're breaking down wrestling's a prudafilm for y 'all it really is yeah sorry that's piper buddy that's a good call uh okay piper into jyd into billy graham into hogan into brett oh something happened quick there that was i love that brett though the brett title hold is mage you get hogan brett undertaker quick again foley's always falling off the cell foley whatever signature open they have the man is falling off the cell dip he's falling off the bone and then and there's sean off the ladder into flare twirl into more hbk into the rock saying if you smell into vince again into austin triple h is that candace michelle Lita no it's not that's Lita with the off the top rope that was definitely Candice Michelle that's Candice Michelle into Lita, into Ray into what Jericho into Quick Orton into Shane, into Kane into JBL into Edge into Batista, Cena Triple H that makes sense for that time for that time it makes sense What year was that?

57:1506? The world is watching is probably, yeah, 05, 06, 07, that range. They usually stick with one for a few years. Do the one from 90. There was a signature open, 90? It was just like the World Wrestling Federation with the logo. Over 50 years, the revolution. This one? I love this. Yeah, you're not going to be able to see it. It's just not as excited. It's just a plane flying. And then here comes the logo. This is for over 50 years. There you go. How far we've come, guys. Look how far. Yeah, this is what the world is watching. That's what the world is watching. The revolutionary force in sports entertainment, I think, is the next one.

58:05There's so many things. That's when you have the thing floating around the logo. we've seen them all so what is this? what are you looking at? this is very interesting is he in the mailbag? yeah someone said completely random Brian said completely random but before I went to the Nate Bargatze show at MSG I went to this Japanese restaurant on 35th and this is on the back of the menu and he sent me a picture of the back of the menu about Itsuki the owner of Gosuki restaurant Itsuki Yamazaki is a former professional wrestler from a small island called Aishima in Japan. She wrestled for all Japan women's wrestling and eventually came to the United States and wrestled for the WWF as a member of the Jumping Bomb Angels.

58:57No. Oh, my God. No. What? Itsuki was one of the first wrestlers to ever win the WWF Women's Tag Team Championship with her partner Norio Tateno. We're going to this restaurant. 100 % going. We're going to this restaurant. She also won the inaugural WWF Women's Survivor Series match in 1987. Since Itsuki retired from professional wrestling, she has been involved in the restaurant business in New York City. Her purpose and goals are to bring those traditional dishes she enjoyed on her small island and show the world how delicious authentic Japanese food is. We have found a jumping bomb angel on 35th Street in Manhattan.

59:39What are your effing teas, dude? Right under our nose. This was right under our nose the whole time. We're going, and we're going to meet her, and we're going to taste the greatest Toro known to man. We are going and going and going. Yes, Natalie, who in the middle of my radio show is telling me to take my headphones off. Yes, can I help you?

1:00:01Dip, she wants to know, but what if this restaurant doesn't have any millionaire Billy Joel Paul Simon roles?

1:00:10I'm sure there's a rock and roller coaster spider dragon role of some kind that I could have. Hold on. I'm looking up. Hold on. For people who don't understand, by the way, we had a conversation. 235 West 35th Street. we had a conversation recently about jumping bomb angels where you know dip was revealing and then we were we all we watched this all we watched this old jumping bomb angels women's tag title match and we were commenting how it's probably the first women's tag title match we could ever remember it turns out it was and dip was going on and on about how much he loves the jumping bomb angels and now thanks to brian our listener we know she owns this restaurant i'm on the website whether uh let us host your special event should we have a cheap eat special event at gosuke she needs to be there i would say we should do like a watch along of a ple but she's going to be at the ple i want to watch a jumping bomb angels glamour i want to watch survivor series 87 with the with the jumping bomb angels in this sushi place while eating a rock and roller coaster roll i just i just put the link to her restaurant in the uh stream yard chat if You guys want to look at it.

1:01:19Yeah, absolutely. Does she have any stuff on the walls? Well, I got to tell you, though, this place looks pretty manged. Really? Yeah, this place looks pretty cool. Oh, my God. This is a real thing. There's something going on. Something might be going on here. Look at those. Look at that. Look at beautiful Goyosa. How about this? She said Thanksgiving. Bring your friends and family on Thanksgiving Day for a celebratory feast, 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. You guys want to have Thanksgiving with the Jumping Bomb Angel? We might have to. I might have to tell my family I'm busy on Thanksgiving. I'm going with the Jumping Bomb Angel.

1:01:59It's expensive. What are they running for a roll here at this? Oh, my God. Do you see the fried squid? It looks incredible. Yeah. It's not that bad, actually. I don't know. The 8-piece Sushi Nami regular is$53. Salmon Bomb Roll. Yeah. Yeah, dude. They have a focaccia roll. But it's a bomb. It's a bomb, a jumping bomb roll, salmon bomb roll, red dragon roll, year of the dragon roll. We have to go here. A lot of people say, so what makes Cheap Heat different than the other shows on Pro Wrestling Nation? I would like to submit us analyzing the menu of this Japanese restaurant in Midtown Manhattan.

1:02:40Mage, too. We're going to the restaurant. I can't believe I just got that in the mailbag. Thank you, Brian. That is so cool. Oh, the seared salmon Toro is so mage. I'm a huge seared salmon Toro guy. All right. Well, listen, no matter what, at the very least, we will go there and record a podcast sitting at a table. Like at the very, very least. I want to meet her. She's got to be there. We have to call and make sure she's there. Our friend might not be there. Yeah, we have to. We have to make sure she is, though. We have to make sure. Ross wrote us and said, as an Egg Everything level subscriber, for people who know that's the highest level of a patron, I need to go on record that I loved the Shakey's Pizza episode of the pod.

1:03:23I'm sure many don't care for that content, but that's what I love about your relationship with Dip. Just keep the content coming. I didn't drop the Patreon when there was a little content over the summer. By the way, guys, we got to record a Patreon this weekend. What are your thoughts? Okay. I mean, yes. I also can't tell you how much I love the Lord Alfred Hayes promotional consideration paid for by the following. What a throwback. And the products. Genius. That's all the work of Emilio Sparks. So big shout out to Emilio. That's amazing. I have so much respect for you and how hard you work. I recently reached out to Jimmy Trena and recommended you as a guest on the SI Media Pod.

1:03:58He said you were scheduled but had gotten sick. You should definitely do a show. He has great respect for the business and will treat you well. Shout out to Jimmy Trena for sure. yeah well I was scheduled by the way I was scheduled to go on Jimmy Traynor's show and that was dip that was when I lost my voice I never I never cancel anything except I literally could not speak and so I had to cancel Jimmy Traynor all right you already shouted him out well is Jimmy Traynor making money with you on the side I mean how many shots hit between him and birdie what the hell is going on with that I was gonna say this that birdie makes that birdie call suspicious i i've never heard this man mention jimmy trainer before and he got shout out to jimmy trainer i mean you guys working on another podcast you're working on the si podcast on the side god you got it by the way sg you got to watch these hollywood types you know what i mean you got to keep your eye on them jizza told us yeah jizza told us about keeping on these uh industry cats all right let's take a break here and come back with more phone calls and more to discuss on cheap Pete live on this October 3rd weekend.

1:05:03Rosenberg, SGG and Dip. It's Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Hulk Hogan vitamins. All natural flavors, colors and sweeteners with beta carotene and no cholesterol. The new champion of children's chewable Hulk Hogan vitamins. I imagine this week, SGG, there was a ton of conversation about the women's main event from Friday night. oh yeah Tiffany feels like an understatement Tiffany versus Nia versus Jade and a lot to break down from that match first of all Jade I mean you talk about getting busted open the hard way I mean her face was yeah I mean that picture she posted was gag a Jace like you saw it right dip I saw the bone I loved it I love that stuff because I'm a lunatic.

1:06:01By the way, I'm being 100 % serious. You know you need extensive therapy on this subject, right? This needs to be. You love obscene. You love the bloodiest UFC fights. You love things like this. I mean, you're freak show a Jace. And yet. Oh, stop. And then there's other things that he's like, I won't watch it. I won't watch that. I can't see it. But your lines are so insane. I can't watch the National Geographic animal violence. I don't like that stuff that I can't watch. So I don't like to see the tiger eat the caribou. I can't watch that. It's sick, sick. Leave him alone for God's sake. Find something healthy, by the way.

1:06:43So, by the way, I find all of it hard to watch. And I definitely hate when those scenes happen in National Geographic. I can't watch them. They make me nauseous. But I will say of the it's but do you realize how insane you are, how broken you are as a human being? that you hear me out of everything we just talked about that's the only violence that's technically like okay and natural it's like the natural order of the world it's hard to watch as a human and we hate it and it's horrifying but it is the one thing that in the in the order of the world the caribou has to get in it has to happen it serves a purpose like this is literally for sport You watch people.

1:07:24Jane Cargill's bone showing through her forehead. Oh, anyways. Let me not get distracted with the psychosis of my dear friend Dipperstein. Let's talk about what happened in the match. So after she gets busted open, Tiffany pins Nia. Apparently Nia forgot to kick out. And then the referee did not count to three. Then Tiffany. Now, here's the real frustration in the whole thing. Yeah. both of these are mistakes okay like i'm no expert on this i have nothing to do with anything with this i've never reffed a match i've never had to kick out of a pin um because when r truth beat me i i was down um it's a shame so i'm not going to sit and act like i know what's what but what i will say sgg what was weird about it was when two seconds later tiffany stratton goes up and hits the prettiest moonsault and the world's prettiest moonsault and wins you go why didn't we just win last time yeah nothing nothing story i guess what's frustrating about it and i'm sure everyone involved is already upset about this so there's no need to like belabor it but it was an unfair unforced error sggg because the match was going to be tiffany winning anyway yeah i i agree and that was my takeaway also i was like i think i even said it in the group chat was tiffany hitting her finisher that important that they had to just delay the three count by 30 seconds because yeah i didn't see what was gained um the referee looked foolish in full view of the camera stopping the three count to check naya's shoulders or cover it however she did then you see naya also in full view of the camera say something to the referee and then stay down to get hit with the moonsault to go right into Tiffany's celebration to go right off the air I feel like we could have just let Tiffany celebrate 30 seconds earlier and then she could have filled the time hold up the title slap some hands ringside there was anything other than break up the pin and go to the finish that included the the prettiest moonsault ever oh but apparently there the speculation is is that here and here's why I never try to get into knowing the business because I don't I don't know the business in that way.

1:09:44You don't know who's ever at blame, ever, ever at fault. Some people are saying it was actually Tiffany who was late. Or sorry, it was Jade, I guess, was late to break up the pin. Because it was Tiffany pinning Naya, correct? Yes. Tiffany pinning. But here's the thing. Here's why that doesn't make sense to me. And you've heard this already, I'm assuming. no this is this is me here for the first time but it doesn't make sense because i think jade hit naya with her finisher and then jade had naya down tiffany broke up the pin jade's outside of the ring so jade was supposed to get pushed outside of the ring and then come back in to break up the pin again and then what naya still got to be down to take the moonsault to me it looked like naya forgot to kick out that's what it looked like that's what it looks like yeah that's what it looks like but she definitely like turned her head to the referee and was like that's not you there's something something was wrong yeah i don't know what was said i'm because you know i'm not a lip sync i'm not i'm not a lip reader or anything like that so i don't know what was said but they definitely communicated something and uh it was rough though i gotta tell you it was not i've never seen that before that was listen the the It could have been anyone and the ref.

1:11:07It's a very hard. She's in a tough spot. Listen, every night. I just people just go crazy when a mistake happens. And it's like, guys, it's live theater. How can you like, by the way, she is a tremendous referee who is now calling some of the biggest stuff there is. She is a good referee. Age is amazing, right? And she's doing her thing every single week. and then you have one moment where something happens and again we don't know if it was exactly her or someone else and then she may have not fought on the spot oh I should just count three anyways but for the way people go crazy I saw people online this is the biggest botch we've ever seen in history no it's not calm down I had to do one Fakakta 24-7 thing guys I almost shit myself it is the hardest them doing a live performance like this every single week at some point moments are going to happen in the end they got to the place they needed to get to and i got to tell you guys low on the low jade has had a really big couple of months like i really feel that jade's brand is way closer dip would you agree to what it was supposed to be than it's ever been in her time in WWE?

1:12:26You know how I feel. I am a huge Jade Cargill fan. Nobody looks like her. No one has ever looked like her. And I agree that her brand in the last couple of months has increased, but I think it needs to keep going. I think she needs to have the belt by WrestleMania. That's my You don't think get the title? I think it would be my guess is she gets the title at WrestleMania. I think this would be the That's fine. Yep. I would like to see her win the title at WrestleMania. That is what I see the future. That is a dipsure Domus seized for Jade cargo. SGG. I also wouldn't hate though. I don't know if it's possible at this point.

1:13:03I would them finding a way back to a storyline though, where we get some invincible Jade for a while too. We've now seen her have some tough matches. We've seen her lose matches. We've seen her get busted open. We've seen her win hard fought matches. You know, we've seen her do a lot. I wouldn't mind some of the old dominance. The original storyline from AEW. you i wouldn't hate her getting a run of just beating the hell out of people yeah same i would love that but i i would love it with her as a bad guy though i don't want their invincible good guy i feel like true no that's a good point it's not played out but it's hard to go anywhere with it apparently with the right talent and i don't think that jade would be the right talent for invincible good guy but it's a tough spot and she's a heel evil invincible J and let's be honest right there's a fine line between cockiness and confidence and her level of confidence is right on that line just let her jump across it she doesn't have to go that deep into it just let her go cross that line into cockiness bad guy dominating heel, I think it will work.

1:14:24So real quick, Dip, Andrade's back in AEW already? He's back. He's a member of the Don Callis family. You know what? It was probably like, we'll take him. Type of thing. Probably was. Yeah, no, I mean, this guy, is he now setting the record? This is the record for most jumps we've seen. He's jumping and jumping. He's a jumping bomb Andrade. He's a jumping bomb Andrade a thousand percent. He jumped from WWE to AEW to WWE to AEW. Because the record was who? X-Pac, right? He jumped from WWE to WCW back to WWE. But this is a fourth. This is a fourth. We have uncharted waters now. Can I also just say, I think Don Callis is such a mage talent.

1:15:13He's good. I've always felt the family could have been done, can be done in a way that has a little more like organization, easier to follow. Let me see them all together. There's always like some through line in the stories that I always find a little confusing about. Wait, who's in the Don Callis family again? But he is really, really. Fletcher. Yeah. I mean, Sam Roberts actually mentioned this yesterday or whenever that was, whenever they replay Sam Roberts all week. He's on 20, 22 hours a day. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it could have been any time. but um you know i i i he complimented him in the exact same way that we did it feels like a real heel thing oh no he's gonna come out you know don callous is the real deal i just want to see a little more organization with the don callous family all right next time we talk i'll be reporting to you from perth australia have a wonderful weekend don't forget to find us on patreon cheap heat live and also follow us cheap heat pod on instagram zach kelly thank you S-U-G-Dip Stay mage And enjoy yourselves Stay mage please