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0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to Psycho.

0:10The Major League. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The King of Kings. 24 seconds. I even pretend. Confirm. Not Major. Stay mage and enjoy yourself.

0:27it's Jeep Heat with Peter Rosenberg featuring StatGuy Greg and Dip well I'm told at some point we are going to feature uh StatGuy Greg again however that day is not today we are SGG-less again but I am here in New York City your forever 24-7 champion Peter Rosenberg and joining me from just outside of New York in beautiful Westchester. It is 39 at 35 Dipperstein. Hey, Dip, how are you? I'm great. I'm great. There's air conditioning units being repaired behind me. As we speak. Yeah. Yeah. That's going to be happening during the show is the air conditioning repair. Let me tell you something. It makes me want to be an air guy.

1:15You know, you come, you come, you do the job, you do a beautiful job with the air conditioning. You go home, you see your family, you have a nice, you know, you watch some wrestling, you go to sleep, nothing to think about. It's a beautiful life. So you're saying you like the fact that you just, you know, you walk in, you walk out, it's over, good night, good luck. You like that part as opposed to hearing from clients nonstop throughout the day, every day. I like that too. I like that too. Especially you, Peter Rosenberg, especially you. Well, so what's, what's how he's, um, cause how he, of course, is dipstir friend who he stays with, uh, when he's in New York.

1:52Yeah. And, but, but tell me what, what is the air conditioning problem? Are these, is this like the overall air conditioning? There's always something going on in this house. There's always, I, I've never walked into the house. There isn't a person doing something with the, with the, there's always a worker person doing this. The house is never empty. It doesn't matter if people are home. If they're not home, the air conditioning is being worked on. One of the cabinets is being repaired. The shower head is being replaced. There's the nanny. There's the this. There's the that. The this unit that you have HVAC.

2:27There's always something going on in this house. It's one of those houses. You know, those houses, you know, those houses where there's always people doing something. I have to tell you, I aspire to one day having a home like that. I my my line for success would be I'm doing so well that the house requires that much to be going on. There's five air conditioning units in the south. There's five air conditioning units in the house. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, we had a we had an air conditioner, a filter contest. I had I had a disgusting air filter. He has a disgusting air filter and we're comparing air filters.

3:08Wait, are you saying that they don't have central air? of course they have central air but the filter that you put on the thing you know the behind the thing with the thing no i don't know i only know filters in relation to like a unit like an air conditioning unit well you live in new york where there's like units in buildings or whatever we have you know it's a whole different thing yeah i don't i guess i don't know where the filter would be in the central air conditioning i didn't i don't know about that listen i had a whole thing this week with air conditioning i don't even want to talk about it um anyways there's a lot to get to here welcome to cheap heat live on pro wrestling nation 24 7 uh dip is obviously in town because he's a mover and a shaker he's got clients who are fanaticsing up a store and people are people are posing for pictures they're signing things they're chatting they're they're being seen i got it fanatics fest is is there's two things that happen to fanatics fest fans go and see people and talent goes and is seen that is what if you want to understand what fanatics fest is in a nutshell it's people who want to see people and it's people who want to be seen by people those are the old was there yesterday it is uh it is awesome it is it was an awesome scene there it is a a zoo of the highest levels it is packed completely sold out yesterday i believe saturday is going to be completely sold out and people are going to be seen and are be seeing up a storm jalen brunson sold out folks a thousand autographs at over nine hundred dollars a pop dude that's crazy man that's crazy that is a wild situation people um people love their autographs dude people love the collecting i i never for all the things I'm into collecting I I just never went as far as like the certifying I need the you know I need this exactly like that it's just I'm a little bit more disorganized with my my collection um but anyways I'll be out there on Saturday dip you're going what just Saturday you're going Saturday and Sunday yeah oh yeah yeah what's how much are you charging by the way for autographs.

5:25900. You wanted Brunson's number. Yeah, I get Brunson money. Of course. Yeah. Well, I heard Brunson was 900, so Dip said I got to be 950. I'm not going to be below Jalen Brunson. Actually, and then, of course, Saturday night's main event is tomorrow, and there's a big Jalen Brunson thing. I have to admit, I'm going to complain about one thing. It's a very predictable thing to complain about. I really wish Jalen Brunson didn't have to be announced. I would have loved for that to have just happened at the show. I think he, but here I thought that first at first too, but then I'm like, he's so gargantle that like, it's stupid to do that.

6:05If you're looking to sell tickets, yeah, I'm stealing Brunson. So, so yeah. And I think, and there are still some tickets remaining. So you have to do it. I wonder had it been completely sold out prior. I wonder if they would have announced Brunson at all. It might be sold out. Is it not sold out? I don't, I don't think it's sold out. I think it's close. I think it's close to, close to sold out, but I have no doubt. It's going to be a great show. Thank you, Deb. Thank you for that bold prediction that you're making. This is why people come to you to get the big, bold predictions. It's going to be a great show, but yeah, I think there, cause I have CM Punk on my show today on Don Hahn and Rosenberg.

6:38They announced the Brunson thing. I'm getting, dude, you have to remember they now run MSG a lot. This is no longer the days of MSG is a rarity. Like there was a 10, 15 year period. MSG didn't happen. it only would happen occasionally they would do the house show once a year but now you're doing, when was Raw was there what, three and a half months ago? Something like that four months ago. The Garden should get wrestling all the time It should be home, it should be the home and that's what it is so we love to see that I want to start today on what I thought was the biggest segment in pro wrestling this week and that was the Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns contract signing the contract signing in pro wrestling has become i mean they are signing and signing okay everyone's doing a contract signing and very rarely do they hit what the to me at least do they hit the tone that they're supposed to hit of like okay this is actually getting me towards like i'm i'm now noticeably more excited than I was prior to this segment.

7:51And I have to tell you, I thought Roman and Seth this week, not to just make today a glaze fest, but I just thought it was awesome. Like that to me is what we wanted in this story. You know, the story kind of came out of nowhere. It kind of felt like, hey, we're getting Seth and Roman together. It's time. That's kind of how it felt in terms of how they found each other here. Right. I think they really established it this week. I mean, look, there's a reason. There's a reason. These are the people. But this was the week that I think really made it hit. Agreed. It was awesome. It was awesome. I love that they keep dressing in black.

8:28It's just like, I don't know. That's a detail to me that they may not have been on purpose, but just sort of, you know, is like a nostalgic thing. Like, they're still in black. They're still The Shield. They're in black, but they're in their own versions of it now. I don't know. That just felt like an element of it. No, no, no. I think that's a good. I mean, well, listen, Roman's T-shirts are always black, aren't they? Yeah. But sometimes, you know, I don't know. No, no, but I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying you're wrong. I think you're probably right. It's probably more noticeable with Seth, who's wearing a black suit every single week, as opposed to Roman, who's just wearing his T-shirt.

9:02but I saw like a lot of feedback this week online of like Roman Roman cooked Seth oh my god oh my god oh my god Roman cook cook by the way let me be clear folks okay I love both these guys for totally different reasons all right I I'm a huge fan personally and professionally of Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins. Let me be clear. They, to me, I'd induct them into the Hall of Fame in the same year and have them induct each other. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're, but like, you Roman people, the Roman freaks, like the SGGs of the world, they like, the weird, and obviously, listen, I'm a Roman guy.

9:50I love Roman. I put my ones up. I'm eating at the table. I respect the head of the table. want to eat my meal. I, I, can I please have some gruel Roman? I'm hungry. I'm going to tell if Roman Reigns is listening, I'm going to tell Roman Reigns right now. I was at Peter Rosenberg's home yesterday. There's not that much food at the house. Clearly you, you, you feel you're, you're saying that Roman Reigns is, is putting food on the table for your family, but the truth is he's not really stocking your fridge the way that he should have been. You're you're, but let's be fair. There's remnants of things that were cooked.

10:25There's some stuff around the counter. But when you open that fridge, I mean, there's no snacks. There's not. Not only that, if we really want to get into complaining to Roman about the table, he should redo my entire kitchen so I can have a full size fridge. Well, for sure. But also, Roman should take a trip to Trader Joe's for you and fill that fridge. Yeah, I agree. We're not. Yeah, but I am. Listen, if you want to be honest, though, the lack of snacks in my house is a problem that predates Roman Reigns. Okay. It predates him being head of the table. I know, but he's a tribal chief. He's providing the food for all the people.

11:02I'm just going to say, if Roman Reigns ever comes to your house, if he opened the fridge and opened the cabinets, he would say, I need to be providing better for you. I'm sorry. He's failing your snack game. All right. So, but besides that, besides his potential failing of my snacks, I love everything about him. And I'm a huge fan of this run. first ballot hall of famer all the things okay roman i love you there's no need for me to do it but the fit but the adult roman fans like and when i say that i mean of course dip and i are roman fans but i mean like the ones who identify themselves as like i'm a roman rants person like that's like they're like i'm not that with any one person i'm sorry my job does not allow for me to be that level of fan i like everybody all right i like everybody i like some more than others but the people who define themselves i'm talking about the sggs i'm talking about the O'Shea Jacksons.

11:51I'm talking now about the Sam Roberts of the world. I'm talking about the Robin Lundbergs of the world. They literally, you know, what was the, what was the Drake line about Kendrick that really did score when he goes, uh, Kendrick opened his mouth, gave him a Grammy. Oh shit. Give him a Grammy. Kendrick opened his mouth again. That is kind of what these people are like about Roman. He walks out and they go segments over. Good night, Seth. You've got no chance. Like, I'm not really interested in your guys' takes on the promos. I don't know if you're aware of how the wrestling business works, but that word works.

12:29You've all been worked into, you are just fanboys who can't even analyze it. They do not analyze segments with Roman. They just say, Roman got the best of it. Good luck. See you next week. And I got to tell you, this one was a very hard to call week. This was a battle back and forth on the mic between Seth and Roman. Roman playing the cool guy, literally like in how he's sitting, Seth being the like angry standing, went full Eminem eight mile, which I loved. Everything you've said about me, I've said to myself looking in the mirror. That was maybe the best line of the whole promo. Oh, it was the one that I think people will remember for sure.

13:11You know what I mean? they went they went with two very different approaches and i thought both of them nailed it but i just get so irritated with these i mean you guys are like hulkamaniacs at 40 years old like there's a lot of a lot of schmig eggers out there there's hammond eggers our dear friends they're hammond eggers a lot of these schmig eggies out there that can't separate that you know like listen he can't have any differing opinion not only that but if you ever even suggest to them that there's a storyline turn in which maybe Roman wouldn't be champion it's like suggesting they give up a child for adoption it's they can't even fathom a world and like well what if what if Seth what if what if Seth went over they cannot conceive of this as an idea now that's something I want to talk about as the show goes on today which is what do you do like how do you make this super compelling from the standpoint of roman reigns has never beaten seth rollins clean ever doesn't that lend itself to of course roman is winning this one i not necessarily i i that that's going to be the interesting part of how they make this whole thing work is that my gut says when we get to this match, Seth is going to keep owning Roman.

14:37I mean, it's, I guess it depends on how long they want to go with the story. Is it? Do we have any clue? Could this be a thing that starts at SummerSlam and goes all the way to the rumble? Obviously a lot of people have speculated that we'll end up getting

14:56Obafemi versus Roman Reigns at WrestleMania. And if we're to get to that point, I don't know. Can Seth Rollins beat Roman Reigns? Again, this is where we start overthinking his fans and why being a smart fan sucks because you can't. It's hard to let it play out because you're saying, oh, and I'm trying to book it instead of trying to just enjoy it. But it is an interesting note to me that Roman is the biggest guy in the business and he's never gotten Seth clean. Like that is a fascinating little bit here. We now have how many Raws left up to. Right. This coming Monday. We got two Raws left. Do you think we'll see both?

15:35Do you think we'll see them face to face on both? Yeah. Yeah. Why not? I'd like to see them get out of the ring a little bit. Tip. First of all, here's why not. Because Roman doesn't do TV every single week. So it's not an absolute guarantee. I don't know that he's there both. Okay. I mean, I'm just saying you just were like, yeah. No, that's a question. He's not there. Two weeks ago, it was only Seth. And they'll have the Uso story play out with no Roman.

16:09And then you and the outside the ring. They're not going outside the ring, buddy. Let it go. Okay? I'm still living for, you know. What is going to happen? I'm cold, breaks into Pillman's house. I'm still living for that moment again. I don't need to think this one needs a gun obviously but I do think that breaking and entering is a very important part of wrestling that we've lost you think there should be more breaking and entering I do I'm very into breaking and entering in wrestling I just received a voice note from stat guy Greg yes okay here we go I'm going to play it for you let's see what it says drive to court and

17:03Roman that you were speaking so derogatorily about can you hear this or no when Jacob Fatu was challenging Roman for the title I on our show said Jacob should win the title for this story could benefit from that And I also don't see where I said to anybody that Roman cooked Seth on Monday. That's fair, too. I believe he did get Seth on Monday. But Seth got him the times before, and they need that. They need that ebb and flow to show that they're equal. So Roman gets him one week. Seth gets him the other week. Seth beat his ass this week. Roman's going to put hands on Seth probably and it'll even out and we're going to get an even bail going in.

17:54That's what the story needs. See, this is why Dips had enough. Dips had enough. This is why these lawyers are always so distracted when they walk into the court. They're thinking about outside things like this. Let SGG just go and ask these potential jurors ridiculous, inconsequential questions. Okay? That's his job. Maybe some of them are. maybe he asked some of the potential jurors do you think Seth cooked rum in this week or do you think rum in cooks up basically as dumb a question as you're asked when you're in it feels relevant yeah by the way I do want to apologize to SGG though he did he is not like all of these people he's grown he used to be I don't care what he says he definitely used to be but I will say he was for the idea of Jacob winning and I did not see him on social media like dunking saying Roman crushed Seth this week he he he has now been surpassed in in Roman sycophantness there's like another level up from SGG which I did not know was possible um what were your thoughts on Seth versus Roman 877-344-4893 we'll get into the Saturday night's main event of it all uh SummerSlam, of course, is taking shape.

19:14A killer celebration from Kenny Omega on Dynamite this past week as well. It is GP Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Stalk chocolate reason. If you like chocolate, then you'll love reason. Extra chewy chocolate caramels covered with a rich chocolate coating. Who do you think won the promo battle? 877-344-4893, Seth and Roman. And also just how damn good was that for a contract signing? Like I really do stand by that. It's all over wrestling television, not even just in WWE. Everyone is doing the contract signing. And I just think so often it does nothing.

19:53That one was so bleeping good. So we want to talk to you also dip. I do want you to know. I just got an MRI. Oh, what was the, what's the element? You don't remember. Do you listen to our show? What is it again? that my back i've been waking up feeling oh my god i know hilarious um and what did you go all the way in i went all the way in what were you terrified to go all the way i i didn't love it but i was fine i got through it i got did they say i you know you hit the button if something's wrong get the button they give me the button the thing but i gotta tell you that feels like a big commitment to hit that button let me tell you let me tell you something has to be going drastically wrong to hit that button that's like the red button it's like the atomic bomb see that's that's what i don't like about it like i wish they had another thing with it where i could just talk to them i'd be like hey hey everything going on everything right over there because it hit this one sound dip it hit like the ones that they know like and i'm like oh i'm like wait this is the mri or there's a nuclear attack and that's the sound that everyone's leaving the building they're running out of the building and I'm stuck inside.

21:09You think the guy in the MRI thing is going to be left in the atomic bomb attack? That's my concern. And so that's the sound. And they're going, oh my god, oh my god, everyone go. And the lady, who wasn't that friendly, I'll be honest, is sitting there at the desk. She's in control. She sees the nuke thing. She's not worried about getting me out. She just runs out. You don't know? It takes too long. She's scared. I gotta go back to the locker for a second. I gotta put on my pants. But by the way, it's so funny. The moment an MRI, I've had like, you know, 10 MRIs in my life, whatever. The moment an MRI is over, I go right up to the thing.

21:43And I say, what do you see? What do you, what's going on? Do you see anything? I go, I walk right. Cause it's usually right outside. They don't like put it behind a door. It's right there. So it's, you know, no one was even there like looking at me. I'm looking, I'm seeing the moment I walk. So I got x-rays today too. Yeah. The x-rays, the guy was telling me everything he's seen. He's like, oh, he goes, oh, I see. oh yeah oh sure so what's wrong with your back nothing i have a straight neck i have straight neck what the hell is that you're not supposed to have a straight neck what your neck the the the bones in your neck i'm told okay i'm an expert now this the skeletal you know makeup of your neck it should like tilt back at the time if it's straight that's a problem what's the problem straight i'm straight it's not the way you want to be and it hurts i don't like it did he tell No, I'm hunched over too much.

22:35My posture's bad. Did he tell you that you're bald? Did he determine that factor? He did. He did. He did it the same way Joe Tessitore did it in Italy. He went, my friend, my friend, my friend Peter Rosenberg. He have a beautiful face. He have a beautiful face. But he's got a bald head. And everyone laughed. I hope we see Joe Tessitore this weekend. Big fan of the Tessitore. Love him. Love him. Yeah, he told me some great stories the other day. not remotely related to wrestling, but I'm going to have him retell them to you. So we were talking before the break dip about the Seth and the Roman of it all.

23:12Just your, my gut feeling is we're two weeks out from SummerSlam. It can't be over at SummerSlam. Like this is, is this going to be their last thing? Like, is this it? is this the Roman Reigns Seth Rollins thing is this it it's a big question if this is it if this is the final one because if it's not if it's the final one it can't end to me in a week from two weeks from Sunday or yeah Sunday will he thank you very compelling stuff from you but I don't know is it going to go to mania I don't know the rumors are all saying we get Obafemi at Wrestlemania also speaking of Obafemi I think Oba's mic work has been I'm trying to think of anyone who's been this comfortable like I'm not saying Obafemi at this point is CM Punk okay I'm not saying he has yet become the greatest promo there is in pro wrestling but his level of comfort for the amount of time he's on the microphone for how new he is is incredible.

24:30He's the man. He's the man. Who else is capable this early on in their career of just having these huge spots? CM Punk is the only person I can think of at this stage of being on week-to-week WWE TV who had that sort of, you know, just you grab it, you do it, and you're good to go every time. Nothing to worry about. But I don't even remember that. I don't remember if Punk was this good at the beginning. You know what? Going back and watching. I would like to see that. Yeah, the earliest days, like ECWWE Punk, I wonder what his promos felt like. I've seen, I've gone back, I told you, I've gone back to the like 07, 08, 09 stuff recently, and it's a lot of CM Punk.

25:24and I wasn't really that deep in at that as you know then but it was he's a he's he was a you know seemingly right off the bat you know impressive on that mic and really knew what he was doing so not since that have I seen something like this for sure yeah and I just I want to see I don't even remember what that punk felt like but I'm looking at the rest of the of the young talent that's come in that's really good on the microphone. There are a bunch of people coming along who are pretty good. But Braun isn't Oba on the mic. Javon is not Oba on the mic.

26:07Logan? Logan's really good. Really good. I don't know if Logan has had the level like sort of Oba's promo segments have been really big, like 12 minute, you know, 10 minute segments. Like, I don't know that Logan has a ton of those, but, but, but Oba's just been, yeah, I guess the most improved guy, in my opinion on the mic, which is, you're going to be surprised by this, but the most, and we haven't seen him in a few weeks, but the most improved guy on the mic in wrestling in his career is Drew McIntyre. I would say in the beginning I was like this needs work now I watch it and I'm like this guy has command and he's funny too you know not something you might necessarily have heard from me many moons ago I'm pretty sure like I watch Drew now and I'm like this guy you know has that on the mic star quality but that evolved that took drew i mean you're talking about 15 years in the business i think the last few years really since the pandemic is when his like growth has really happened but whoever sought from what he was and the presentation back then whoever sought and said this could be something whoever had that foresight has a wrestling mind i don't know who that was well i i mean we can assume who it was but we don't know i mean i don't know you know there could be someone else in his corner that uh anyway i just to go on a tangent on drew mcintyre but we're talking about people who are good on the mic it's just an interesting case study you know he you know he grabbed the brass ring yeah no uh drew definitely came came a long way from where he was in the early days for sure um i would love for someone to tell me though if you're a roman crazy person you know you can admit it to us you're you're you're there's no judgment zone here uh you can feel comfortable this is a safe space for you i want you to call and tell me why in your eyes roman completely cooked seth that's what i want to know from from a true hardcore rominator 877-344-4893 what was it that you said by the way again i want to say i thought Roman was great.

28:34I thought Roman did his thing and I thought Seth did his thing. But I'm curious from the true hardcore Roman fans, why was it the destruction that some of you saw? Because I didn't view it that way. Let's go to Phil, who's on Long Island. What's up, Phil? What do you got, bud? Before you said that Roman has never beat Seth clean, I'd say it the other way. He started out with the chair shaft and the shield. Then he used the wise man. Then he used the vision. Now, it's always been, even the promo last week, he got advantage of Roman by hitting him with, you know, a cheap shot. And then when Roman finally took the upper hand, he hit him with a microphone in the head.

29:20I could see Roman coming out next week and saying, you know, he said, I've never beaten you clean. Let's look at the way you've beaten me. and then say, you finally gave your, beat me like a man, although we all know you're not the man in your family. You finally gave your wife her clothes back. Why don't you get your balls back from her and just beat me man on man? And you know what? I got to tell you, it's not bad stuff by you. It's not bad stuff by you. I don't disagree. I hear what you're saying though, but you're not, that doesn't change the fact that Rollins has the wins over him in actual matches.

30:01Obviously, the cash-in situation is what it is, but he beats him cleanly in 2016. He beats him by DQ in 2022. But I do like that as an angle. And I also wonder if part of that is why Jacob has been separated from Roman here, which I have to tell you, I dip for continuity of a big story I do not love. Like, I know Jacob's doing his own thing, and I like that we're going to get the six-man tag match. It's going to be a fun, that's a great SummerSlam match, but I still would have liked to see Jacob rolling with Roman. No? Doesn't it feel weird? He's gone all of a sudden? We talked about when that happened, what a cool thing it was that he was going to be like the, you know he's going to be forced to be like part of the crew or whatever but now the sort of the abandonment of that story where he's where like you know is he or isn't he makes it seem like it was a waste to some degree like are we going back there like this can't be over right like that was the whole story like that was a good story to tell in the background always right and it could still be being told right now Yeah, but I don't feel like it is.

31:19No, it's being told as a different story with Solo, The Usos, L.A. Knight, etc. It's now just become its own separate story. Why isn't Jacob sort of the linchpin in this Seth Roman thing? You know? I mean, maybe he will be. I have no idea. But I'm just saying. I don't know. it would be nice to see Jacob be the enforcer. Well, last week, last week, they have a segment on raw. The six man tag match gets made, but he's standing behind him. No, nope. Two weeks ago, maybe two weeks ago, but this past, but this past week, just because he has another segment, I don't see why he wouldn't have come back out there with Roman.

32:10Like, I just, yeah, I don't want to bail on that. Like, no, I just in, you know, that's the kind of haphazard stuff that I, I think has been an issue over the last couple of years. You start something, it feels really good. And now we kind of forget about it because we're doing something else that doesn't relate to it. Like we, I don't want to forget just because, just because we're having this cool Seth and Roman thing, the Jacob Roman thing should be a long-term story arc. So I, yeah, I, I wouldn't have any problem if Jacob was really playing. At this point, he's fully accepted. Because it does seem he's fully in to represent Roman Reigns.

32:52Right. Now he's fully in, but should he be? Right. I don't know. But if he is fully in, shouldn't he be there? If he's fully bought in and he's basically fighting fights on behalf of the tribal chief, why is he not walking out with him? and even if Roman said to him because you want to have the idea of Roman being you know not needing help even if you have a moment where they come out together and Roman looks to Jacob and is like I got this and then Jacob walks away right fine but we cannot forget about it like that to me is a that's a big part of the conversation 877-344-4893 um all right let's talk to the people let's go to um cody who's in toledo and wants to talk some uh seth and roman what's going on boys peter dip good to talk to you big fan um i hope you're uh getting into the triple a more and more though dude come on come on get with it but i you're right i'm not really but i i like maybe more than i was a couple weeks ago when i talked about it but i i've seen like it's coming up in my algorithm but um week to week i'm still not watching it but i know that I should and I you know this podcast is not the only people that have told me that JBL commentary man come on uh but Seth Rollins Roman Reigns uh yeah I'm a I'm probably the number one Roman hater dude I don't like this guy um what is it what is it you don't like you don't you don't you don't like anything about him well one of the times I talked to you guys I think I might have mentioned I'm a newer fan I started watching at 40 so that's the kind of oh yeah I remember Yeah.

34:32So I'm, I don't like him, you know, he's a bad guy. I think he's a great character, but I'm not, I'm never going to root for him. I'm never rooting for him. But with that being said, this last thing that he, this last little rivalry that he has with Seth where he can't beat him. I just think it's too good to pass up. I mean, how do you not keep it going? So maybe one time when it finally does happen, you know, all these glazers, you know, can cry tears and be as happy as to be. You know, that's the take. That to me, thank you for the call, dude. I appreciate it, Cody. To me, that's the take. That's why you maybe keep this thing going because it's so much more interesting.

35:12Like Roman at this point, you know, my brother has been interesting to watch his evolution of loving pro wrestling again. He like doesn't understand what's likable about Roman because he missed the evolution of like Roman, you know having dog food smashed in his face to Roman aligning with Paul Heyman to becoming the head of the table so without that it's like unclear dip if you haven't watched the whole evolution at this point what's rootable about Roman he's physically perfect right like he's got everything going on that could be going on he has the longest reign he's got the guys around him like he's the coolest you know what I mean and yet he's not a heel so you are at least the assumption is many people will root for him and so many people do so the idea of having this one mountain for him to potentially climb still I think is an interesting idea no I mean it is enough of a story you know I mean people we've been wanting this match for years so I get this is a piece of the puzzle that's missing.

36:29You know, I, you know, I obviously there's a third member of the shield missing from the story here, you know, but, but that's not going to have, that's not going to get solved on at SummerSlam. No. But, you know, I mean, yeah, I don't really, I don't have anything really to say negative about any of this. I mean, I, you know, it's two people at the top of their game, you know, they're, they're putting on great promos. They're, they're, they look fantastic there's no criticism of i have no criticism of roman in this exact moment i just i just feel that if you keep this thing going and you allow there to be you it seth ends up winning at summer slam and we're able to continue this further for roman even if the end is going to be roman taking out seth and eventually moving on to obafemi I still think you could benefit from it continuing this way.

37:23And maybe somehow it's DQ again. I don't know. I mean, it's tough because it's the main event of the weekend, right? It's the last thing we're going to see. This huge two-night SummerSlam in Minneapolis ends with this match. I can't imagine you'll want to have a ton of Mishigas there, and you'll probably want to have something clean. but I just like the idea of Seth and Roman continuing on beyond, uh, SummerSlam Sunday. Let's go to Tony in Fort Lauderdale. Hey, Tony. What's going on guys. So, uh, for the sake of the storyline, I really think that, uh, Seth winning is the only thing that really works really well for the company.

38:05Um, Roman doesn't lose enough to put guys over, but Seth being the mountain that, that Roman can't beat now gives credibility to anybody. Seth can put over because frankly, he does lose a little bit more. And that gives guys like, I'll just predict LA night. And I'll even give the line. Now he can say, I beat the guy who beat the guy. And you know, he'll run that into the ground. All right, guys, I'll hang up and listen. Tony, it's a, it's, it's a great point. You know, it's, it's what's going to make it fascinating because there really is still upside to Seth beating Roman. So you can't really, it is not a lock that Roman wins, even though my gut initially tells me it is a lock.

38:50Like, well, how could Roman lose to him yet again at this point in Roman's career? But it is important for so many different stories to have Seth get these meaningful wins. Seth is, and that was another thing I saw. Oh, Brian Waters, Our good old friend Brian Waters was another person saying Roman Reigns, you know, he's Brian's line was Seth Rollins is a number two because he doesn't elevate people to the next level. Totally disagree with that as a statement. I completely disagree. I think that Seth's association with Bron Breaker has completely elevated Bron Breaker. Now, you may not love the spot that Braun's in right now, and you may not be sure of where it's going for him.

39:38And there obviously has been conversation about, what do you do with Braun right now to get him on the path everyone expects him to be on? But Seth elevated him. Seth can't write creative, okay? All he can do is have the matches, cut the promos, stand next to the guy, give them the rub, and then everything else falls where it's going to fall. But you can't tell me that Bron Breaker isn't better off because of his association as a teammate and opponent of Seth Rollins. He absolutely is. Also, I would remind you, Cody Rhodes. Yo, Seth dropped to Cody repeatedly in the building of Cody Rhodes. And Brian Waters' response to me when I said that to him, Dip, was, ah, Cody Rhodes was Cody Rhodes from the second he walked in the door.

40:28That is revisionist history. now Cody showed up and it was a huge deal no question about it but you cannot remove everything that happened from the time Cody showed up to the time Wrestlemania 40 is the the ultimate Wrestlemania climax that we've had in maybe decades you can't remove the things that happened along the way you you can't remove the the the crazy matches with Seth Rollins that was all part of Cody getting to where he got and I'm sorry I think Seth was a critical a critical part of that um that to me is I just I do not accept that and again that is where I see people being such sycophants for Roman that you take things he says in the promo to talk shit and you actually apply it to like real life logic and criticism.

41:25I, I, I do not agree with that. Um, I, I am really, really excited to see where they go over the next couple of weeks and really, really excited to see where it ends up landing on SummerSlam Sunday. Cause I think you can really picture either one. Um, dip, I'm excited for a conversation we're going to have next hour, by the way. Um, I'm going to play it for you after the break, but do you happen to have you happened to have seen the uh the the quote from jr good old jr that's been moving around no enlighten me well i'm gonna i'm gonna play it for you after the break okay i'm i'm talking about i'm talking about good old jr not jewish air this is the real this is the real jr yeah i i had altman's deli in baltimore and the pastrami was immaculate i ordered a sandwich they had a sandwich i went to this famous Jewish jelly in Baltimore called Altman's.

42:18It's like, it's a, it's a thing. Like a real true school. I don't know Altman's. Have you been to Baltimore? Yes. It's a real, real true school Jewish deli in Baltimore. And I ordered a sandwich called the nosh. You want to know what it is? Do you want to guess? Uh, no, just tell me. Hold on. The nosh. Altman's Baltic. I want to get it right. Turkey, coleslaw, Russian dressing, Swiss cheese,

42:58and pickles. Pretty good guessing. I know my nosh. Hold on. Let me see. One thing I know. All right. Here it is. Here it is. Hold on. I found the menu. This place was awesome, dude. All right. By the way, the word nosh comes up on their menu seven times. All right. Nosh on rye. Our famous corned beef. Roast brisket. Brisket and corned beef together on a sandwich is very hard to get right. Very. Coleslaw. Yeah. Swiss Russian dressing. By the way, I moved on to Swiss. I'm a big Swiss guy now. I was never a Swiss guy. No, neither was I. but when it comes to like on a jewish sandwich all of a sudden i'm a swiss guy can you believe it what was your biggest cheese as a kid uh sweet munster sweet i was a munster guy yeah i'm still out but when i get you know when i remember to order it but all of a sudden i've like veered into swiss territory what's what's sweet munster i only i only a regular munster there's two kinds of monsters i have to tell you that was one of those words as a kid where i was like it took for years as like a two-year-old it was monster cheese oh yeah oh yeah monster and monster as a little kid it's it's it's too close are you a white american or a yellow american guy on a cheeseburger i prefer the aesthetic of the yellow american uh-huh you know what i mean you like the aesthetic i i'm a cheese aesthetic guy uh If you have not heard JR's comments yet, Dip has it.

44:40We're going to play them next, and it's going to spark a very interesting conversation. Plus, my favorite thing that happened besides Seth and Roman on Raw was something in the mid card that I thought was tremendous. We'll get into all of it in hour two here on Chief Heat Live. Promotional consideration paid for by the following.

45:01The official WWF action figures. You ready to crunch somebody's bones? I knew that you were. How's it going, Vince? You little punk. Hey, wait just a minute. Oh, no. Collect Superstar Series 5 from Jack's. Available at most retailers. Look how Stone Cold said so. What are you sipping on there, Depp? You having a beverage? Yeah, these mini Ollipops. I like a mini Ollipop better than a big Ollipop. I don't know what an Ollipop is. You talk about that. It's the soda. It's one of these gimmick prebiotic sodas. That's a probiotic soda? Yeah. Nothing, by the way, nothing can stop my Jewish stomach. But this Olipop maybe helps a little bit.

45:42You don't have Crohn's or colitis? I could have both. You know, I'm undiagnosed. Olipop, Olipop minis. Very good rating. Not a pretty good rating on yucca. Not great. Oh, by the way, by the way, I was introduced to yucca yesterday by Greg Domino. and I will tell you, I'm obsessed with yucca. Obsessed? I'm yuking and yuking. You're not going to be able to eat any of the things that you eat? By the way, this just shows that you don't respect me because we definitely talked about this. We talked about yucca? Kelly, have we talked about the yucca app on here and ratings before of food? I've never talked.

46:23It was the first time I heard about it yesterday. I don't think so, and I feel like I listen pretty intently. maybe we didn't but I thought that me and Emilio were like at some point maybe it was in text conversation because I typed in all your bars this is why you don't respect me because of you good conversations well then I swear like look for example because of you I got bad news for you you see that red that's called a David bar bad how bad what's it a 38 8 out of 100 oh my god it's it's like creeping death uh here's another one that's poor 36 yeah the best i'm seeing for a david bar the best one in searching is poor that's as good as it oh no i found a good one well i found a good one isn't it just that this one well there's many david bars oh and they're all different so the chocolate chip cookie dough bar makes it just over the line at 51.

47:26That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Pretty, pretty, pretty. By the way, I was on a set yesterday. Were you scanning everything? Everything. I scanned the whole thing. I scanned every single thing, every piece of crap on that catering booth. I scanned it all. By the way, it is such a brilliant gimmick, this Yuka app. It's great. But you know, it's nothing. it's the same thing that every weight watchers app they've all been doing this forever all they did because it's it's it's they're taking they're just taking the barcode all these apps oh weight watchers apps been doing that for a decade okay all they did though was turned it into a scoring system eat this don't eat this eat this don't eat this it's it's freaking brilliant i mean it's all crap we're eating crap up the storm i mean we're we're we're they're killing it it's absolutely We're shoving crap into our mouths on a minute-to-minute basis.

48:24We are being poisoned. Is there anything else you want to ask me about? What else are you eating regularly these days? Give me something that's big in your life these days. String cheese. Which kind? Sargento. Sargento string cheese? Sargento. Uh-oh. Shit from Shaiola? Poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, bad, bad, poor. Poor, poor, bad, bad, bad, bad, poor. it looks like as high as you're getting this 38 buddy why though it's just saturated fat and sodium the sodium's a problem dude when i was a youngster just a young young boy to me i felt like eating a cold cut sandwich was healthy that was me being healthy if i'm having something low fat it's cold cuts yeah i didn't realize that the sodium is bloating you and is terrible for you and is i I had no idea of what was going on.

49:22And now after this MRI, who knows what's going to happen? By the way, Deb, I want you to know that at Altman's, they do have a sandwich called the Hazarai. What are your thoughts? You're afraid to do the hook. It's spelled with just an H-A-Z-Z-A. So I took away the sink. Yeah. And I don't use that phrase. I don't say Hazarai or Hazarai. I don't say it. It's not my wife. I'm not a Hazarai guy. You're not a Hazarai guy. No, I don't even know what it means. It means crap. It means a bunch of crap. It's a great word. That's a great word for crap. You've never heard that word. You've never used Hazarai?

49:59I've heard it, but it's like not enough that I like processed what it means. But now that you're saying it, yeah, I've heard it used as Hazarai. Like it's just nothing. Yes. Are you saying Hazarai is like blah, blah, blah? Saying it's blah, blah, blah, Jase. It's blah, blah, blah, Jase. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, if there's someone in your life that you know and you can't describe what they do, they're just doing whatever. And they're at your job and you're going, what does this person do? We'll tell you what that person does. They do blah, blah, blah. What do they do? Blah, blah, blah. They show up.

50:37They leave. For some reason, they're here. We do have one call. Is our call gone? Maybe they're gone. Dylan in Tampa was talking about Jewish jellies. Another call. there's another call yeah oh bully ray is it is he here to talk delis i hope so that's what i'd prefer bully what's going on i absolutely love the yuca app it's great right that's addicting And the number one thing that is a killer is the sodium in all these foods. So everything that you guys are talking about, I completely agree. Like, they were trying to tout the David's Bar as this big deal, so healthy, so great. It's not. There's like one or two that just barely, like you mentioned, the chocolate chip chips barely gets over.

51:33But yeah, the Yucca app is a lifesaver when you're in the grocery store. I know. So we'll see over time whether these things that we're deciding are good are actually good. But just from a mental standpoint, Bully, it feels good when you buy a few things at the grocery store that are all giving you a green rating. Absolutely. And the secret of the grocery store is to shop on the outside. Don't go up and down the aisles. In the aisles is where you find the worst food. But, yeah, I love the app. I'm constantly standing. And you're right. Weight Watchers did it first, but Yuka found a way to get it over.

52:13Sabu did tables first, but the Dudley found a way to get it over. Hell yeah. I never thought about comparing Weight Watchers and Sabu, but here we are. By the way, one more thing while I have you, Bully. I heard you were at Bar A a couple of weeks ago while I was there. You didn't say anything. So, Peter, it was hot as balls that day, as you know, right? It was awful. It was awful. It was so disgusting hot that I went and I met a friend there, Gary from Freehold. He owns an awesome limousine company. Shout out to Gary. We love Gary. We love Gary. We know Gary. I went for the absolute bare minimum, and he was there to see you and Michael K and Don, and I knew you guys were back there, but you're probably an eighth of a mile back.

53:03And I said, I love those dudes. It's a hundred and fucking five in the shade and they ain't worth it. You made a good call. Bully. We love you. Thank you, buddy. Thanks, man. Have a great show. Bye. Thanks. Great. The great. I hope I'm not blowing up his spot. I ran into Tommy dreamer at a bar in Scarsdale the other night, by the way, this is the whole busted open crew is just walking into bars right and left all over New York and New Jersey. I walk in the bartender goes, Oh shit. Tommy dream. is he? I'm like, really? Wait, wait, wait. He says, holy shit. I see fucking Tommy Dream. Tommy Dream is over there.

53:41Emilio Sparks was the bartender. Definitely someone that knew Emilio Sparks or grew up with Emilio Sparks. And the bartender was actually talking about how excited he was and one of the patrons at the bar sitting next to me about how excited they were to go to Fanatics Fest. And they're like, oh my God, we can meet dan house and for like 60 and we're gonna meet this one for 70 or whatever and they're like and and coincidentally tommy dreamer walks in and and so this is so hold on hold on real quick the people at the bar don't know that you're related to anything no you're just a random jabroni at the bar and they start talking about how much they love dan house and they start talking about every wrestler they're like oh like you know we can be cody rhodes at fanatics fest we're going to meet this one and that one oh hey oh and then and all of a sudden tommy dreamer walks in and people are like holy shit there he is and then he walked and then he walks over to the bar or whatever and like and i was like yo tommy it's dip from gp and he was like oh okay i got nothing i got nothing wait you got absolutely nothing i didn't get a handshake i didn't get a handshake I just got, oh, hey, hey, hey.

54:59I'm like, come on. Was it a friendly hat? Yeah, very friendly. Very friendly. Very friendly. I needed a little. I wanted one notch more from Tommy Dreamer. You just went Cheap Heat. You didn't consider name dropping anyone that you represent instead? No, but no. You thought Cheap Heat would be enough? Yes. Oh, fair enough. We're on the same network together. Yeah, there's not that many shows. Also, he looks amazing. He lost a ton of weight. I heard. He looks like Tommy Dreamer again Yeah That's the innovator of violence to you and me folks He is the innovator of violence He's innovating and innovating He's quite the innovator The man's innovating He didn't invent anything But he innovated galore By the way, and that was a policy of his He refused to invent violence But if you bring him violence He will innovate it He'll find a new way to do the violence Right, his brand is you bring me what you're already doing is violence.

55:57I will innovate said violence and give it back to you better. Yeah. Anyway, guys, a fucking legend. It was great. The same. Yeah, that's very, very cool. I'm sorry that he didn't pop for you more. I would have, if I saw you, I would have been very excited. Yeah. Thanks. So I, I, I teased this and let's, let's pay it off real quick. This is good old Jr. Good old Jr. Giving you his thoughts on wrestling today in the WWE. What would you take away? that ticket sales seem to be solved for SummerSlam this year? Well, I would say that they don't have, they, many WWE doesn't have any one wrestler that's just quite hot.

56:33You got to have somebody hot, somebody that people are talking about, and they don't have that right now. They got a lot of great talents. I'm not saying that, but it's always been a matter of how they're utilized. And I think that they got to do a better job of utilizing their talent.

56:51what the hell does that mean i i i don't i don't i don't know i i i i listen i here's the one thing i'll say so the main quote that everyone was running with is jr says nobody nobody in wwe is white hot right now and that's why they're not able to sell tickets well here's what i'll say here's what i will say i suppose it depends on what your standard of white hot is because when I hear JR in past podcasts and other people of his generation sort of talking about someone who's white hot. If you are talking about Stone Cold Steve Austin in 1999, fine. Nobody is that. I'll give you that. I do not think anyone in the wrestling business in either of the major companies or any of the major companies is Steve Austin 99.

57:46That said, there is a lot of hot talent who is selling tickets though. 100%. It's crazy. That part, I firmly, firmly disagree. So I could get into, let me ask you a question. Who would you put, if that is the standard of white hot, like literally just absolutely on fire? I mean, how many people all time are even in that category? Very few. We know who they are. Yeah, it's, but it's like, we're talking about a handful of people all time. Who puts butts in seats no matter what? No, who are like, yeah, and like, it's literally just absolutely everybody's talking about it. Every shirt is them. You're talking Hulkamania.

58:31You're talking Austin 316. You're, you know, I did Cena ever get to white hot. Yes. I don't think he did. What? It depends what your definition of white hot is. But hold on. You're telling me there was ever a time where John Cena was 99 Austin hot? Stop. You're lying to yourself. You're lying to me. You're lying to your family. That's the hot. You're lying to your future children. Come on. Hogan and Austin are the two hottest ever. Hottest. As far as crowd, fandom, fandom, you know, whatever. Mania, where it goes beyond wrestling. Everyone knows who they are. You're seeing the shirts everywhere.

59:15You walk by Spencer Gifts in the mall. It's everything. It's the Simpsons. It's that. It's that. They may be the only two at that level of insanely white hot. I just got to put Cena in that category. But you'd be embarrassing yourself and your entire family if you did that. John Cena? You're skipping other people just to go Cena? Is Cena the only person then that you would consider being – There's no one else. Like. He's.

59:46This is different than a Mount Rushmore conversation. Yes, it is. This is the new white hot conversation. This is, yeah, white. What is exactly? I think it's a dumb poll quote from me. I don't know why this is such a thing going around. Who gives it? I mean, I don't even know what I could. I can tell you why they pull quotes like this, because, yeah, they can frame it a certain way and it gets people excited, gets people going. but it but it does invite a very interesting question about like i guess listen we're talking white hot nationally jr could go through and tell us chapter and verse about who is incredibly hot in different territories at different times no question about it right and then we could be talking about the von ericks and bruiser brody and rick flair and all these different people but on a national level it is interesting to think about who would have made it to that ilk of like they are selling out shows themselves we don't care what else is on the show we see that Steve Austin is in the main event we're going we see that Hulk Hogan's in the main event we're going it could be Killer Khan it could be Randy Savage it doesn't matter that's that's a different sort of level I would say it's Austin and Hogan and Cena is either right there or right under it I'd say right yeah I'm fair with that I'm fine with that I can have a conversation about him being right under it but i would just like the thing i would ask you is then the next question would be and you can think about this during the break if cena were to be in that category when was it because i can tell you with with hogan and austin we can pinpoint the years in which well they had much shorter runs than seen much shorter which is why it makes it different like that it was hard for cena to run white hot he was too big for too long it's not even sustainable to be hot like that.

1:01:35Edge years and many years. But was it making... It's an interesting conversation. It's a very interesting conversation. Because it is different than the Mount Rushmore conversation. It is. But then you go, is Cody Roman? Is that... Roman during the pandemic is starting to have a conversation. Roman now? Roman, I mean, he's close, but he's not as hot now as he was in the pandemic. Everyone has ebbs and flows. The hottest moment ever for Roman was probably leading up to 40. 39 and 40. That's absolute peak of heat. It can't last forever. Nothing ever does. It goes up and down. But Roman has obviously now solidified himself at the top for as long as he feels like putting boots on.

1:02:28877-344-4893. And when we get back, Dip, I want your thoughts on what has become a lot of fun in the mid-card. Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. Marvel Comics number one tough guy, the Punisher, explodes onto Game Boy in the ultimate payback. Non-stop shoot-em-up arcade action and a special appearance by Spider-Man from Acclaim. I got to tell you, by the way, guys, before we get to a couple of calls here, 877-344-4893 tell us right now the question Dip and I are having JR had this whole conversation about no one being white hot in WWE and while I disagree with him that people aren't hot people are hot we started getting into a conversation about what makes white hot like the hottest, hottest, hottest you could be and Dip and I are making the case that maybe the only two on a national level to be completely on that level maybe are Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin dip saying maybe John Cena I'm not so sure but we love your thoughts on it 877-344-4893 dip we talked a lot about the Jay-Z show last week yeah I gotta tell you man I only went Friday it was it was truly one of the greatest shows I've ever been to did you bust through without a ticket that was a Sunday situation but I will tell you I I waited online for a long time.

1:03:57I don't know. Yankee stadium's got to figure it out. I don't, you should not, there's no need the way it's set up the twisting of the lines dip. It's, it's like you're at King's dominion. It's like, you're waiting online for a ride at an amusement park. It goes on and on. It was a nightmare. I get in at like nine 30 and I'm already annoyed from having waited. I'm like, this thing better be good. Yeah. And dude, it was mage. I mean, it's, I saw the clips and look, I called Rihanna. I called it. You did. You called her again. Again, that was Sunday. Right. And we said, I think I said at the time, the one that it would have been was Sunday because that was like the he's going to play a random stuff.

1:04:35But Beyonce coming out on literally the first song, like it was such a statement. I'm like, oh, Jesus, can't knock the hustle with Beyonce. And the way they shot her, they just showed like her stilettos and like go up and reveal Beyonce. It was I got to tell you, man, say, say, say what you want. I know some people are sick of the J's, the J glazing. You got to give credit where credit is due. There are other people who can rap close to as well as Jay-Z. There are other people who have bodies of work close to as good as Jay-Z for sure. There's a reason that he is this guy though. He did the things to become this guy.

1:05:15Could somebody call Jay-Z white, white, hot, honestly. let's let's uh let's hear what mark has to say jay-z have by the way he is one of the few who has been white hot um let's yeah let's go to mark in los angeles what's up mark hey guys appreciate taking the call so adding to the you know the debate of white hot i mean i know it's a short run but i would say goldberg's streak when he gets to atlanta takes down hogan And I think it's kind of there. It's short, very short, but it was something that built up to that momentum. And then when he got over the hurdle, now everyone wanted him to lose, and that's why everyone was rooting for Nash at Starrcade.

1:06:04So appreciate you taking the call. For WCW, that's their version of White Hot, for sure. Yes, at that time. So I'll give you that. But by the way, I think he's right, though. I think overall. Like people were watching pay-per-views to see what happened with Goldberg. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, for sure. Well, and his name, all of a sudden, his name and WCW went beyond wrestling circles. Like people are like, oh, you heard about this Goldberg? 100%. I think, you know what? Great call, Mark in Los Angeles. If you have any others, we are open-minded. I am adding Goldberg to the list. As crazy as that is, I am no huge Goldberg fan.

1:06:45man. I like Goldberg. He's a great guy, but I'm not a Goldberg guy. Like big E is a Goldberg guy. Yeah. I was a Goldberg guy. I had all the, I had the, I had the, the bust, the wall bust. You're, you're a lunatic. You had the Goldberg wall bust. Wow. Big wall bust guy. So, but I will, you know what, when you're right, you're right. I will add Goldberg to the white hot list. Hogan, Austin, Goldberg, Like the moment in which it's happening, it's just, oh my God. I mean, and I do think the only reason I'm hesitating on Roman and Cody is we live in a different era. Yeah, they evolved. It became something different where like the dictating seats being sold in this era is just not the same.

1:07:33Like in that time in the 90s, just having this Goldberg thing going, oh, guess what? Now we can go to the Georgia Dome. like one person isn't doing that in modern day WWE. It's just not the same business essentially. But 877-344-4893. We'd love to hear your thoughts on that. All right, let's go to Mike. Mike, your thoughts on who's been white hot. What do you got, Mike? Well, it's not who's been lately, but it's who was. And it was Enzo and Cass when they came into WWE. couldn't have been more hot. Okay, okay. Let's have a conversation, Mike. Enzo and Cass were over like Rover, all right? But they were not white hop.

1:08:20There's a difference between over like Rover and white hop. Every person knew their, every catchphrase they had. For sure. Mike, thank you for the call, man. It's a good one to bring up, and especially because now the vignettes are running for big Cass to come back, and that's very, very cool. I hope Enzo ends up being a part of that as well. If I had my druthers, I'd love to see them together. They were absolutely over like Rover. Dip and I literally discussed it this week off air. Like, why not have them back? They would totally inject life into the tag division. They were definitely legit, but they were not selling tickets.

1:09:00People were not filling arenas. People didn't go, this arena is not big enough. We got to go bigger. Why? because we have Enzo and Cass. That did not happen. No. But they're great. We love them. Even though they didn't even though I do think they were a lot of fun. I was so into them at that time. It was right when I was really getting back into stuff with you. Yeah. And like they were having their moment then and I was obsessed with them. I thought they were like totally people I would have loved as a kid and like loved all the catchphrases. I just loved everything about them. So anyway I'm excited for Big Cass to come back to.

1:09:34He's a great guy. I gotta ask you a question. do you think uh you think enzo has a beef it could have a potential beef with little mo mozzarella i wouldn't be surprised the whole how you doing by the way of course that's the first thing i thought of when i heard the little mo mozzarella thing oh it was it yes i mean i wonder if enzo's watching it going hey how you doing i mean how you're doing good like he is lit i mean he is the i guess joey from friends also could it could be a three-way you know three-way dance here but he was the original yeah well no I mean look you know Italian people have been saying hey don't for years but you think how you don't is just an Italian thing I mean if you say it like that yeah if you say it like that but I mean hey how you doing big difference big difference huge difference by the way Tony Soprano was big on I know yeah I loved it when he said it and so was Pauly Paulie was also a big, how you doing?

1:10:36We never did the blood. Did I miss this? We didn't do the bloodline Sopranos thing. What was the bloodline Sopranos thing? Weren't we going to talk about who in the bloodline is? Oh, yeah. You know what you want to do in the last segment? Sure. All right. Let's go to James in North Carolina. What's going on, James? Hey, guys, what's going on? How you doing? Not too bad. First of all, I've got to throw, I've got two for you. I'm going to throw the ultimate warrior into the white hot mix. Oh. there rocking on him and uh that was pretty crazy times and then uh i don't think okay go ahead on that all right because pause for a second james no no pause for a second i'm just gonna tell dip dip you should be ashamed of yourself i thought about the warrior i thought about saying warrior you do you disagree well you shut me down you shouldn't be scared of what i'm gonna do i we are maybe i'll argue maybe i won't argue but he was it he did have that moment where like it took over every I mean it's yeah he was the logo for for every he was the logo for superstars or the logo for saturday night's made event for a minute or whatever yeah I mean he was yes the ultimate warrior is close I warrior might be right there James all right what's the other one you got and then I gotta throw down I never saw more shirts for wrestling until Austin than NWO.

1:11:59When NWO first popped, I think that was the hottest thing going. Thank you, James from North Carolina. The NWO is... Great call. Thank you, buddy. NWO added to the list. Added to the list. Definition of white hot. White hot up a storm, dude. And I think Warrior, I think I'd probably throw in Warrior too. Great. Sounds good to me. I'll put Warrior on any list. I know. Dip has him as one of the greatest in-ring wrestlers of all time. One of the great promos of all time. One of the great businessmen of all time. I had all his Hazarai in my house galore. He had the Hazarai up a storm. He had the Hazarai and the Hazarai.

1:12:43All right. 877-344-4893. Are we forgetting anyone from this list of who's been white hot in wrestling history? All right, Dip. I got to tell you, I've been teasing it all day. I want to pay it off. I loved the Maxine Otis of it all. Yeah. It's classic wrestling. It is classic wrestling. And they have made, they have made Maxine mean something. I was legitimately hurt that she did that to Otis. Like I, I thought that was like tough to watch. Like I was like, Oh, I, I, I really, I don't know. Like Kelly, how did you feel? Did you add, did it make you like grown a little bit? I actually like hurt for Otis when that happened.

1:13:22no i was depressed like and i've never like i've always thought otis is so cute and on i love seeing him i actually felt something deep in my heart for this man i've never cared about otis more than i did monday night dude that's that is literally well done then that is exactly what they were hoping for and it completely worked it got the holes it got the story over that's what they needed to get done they got it done they got it done now i am curious though i i wonder where we go here, but we just do like Otis and Austin Theory, like one-on-one? Sounds good to me. Yeah, by the way, sounds good to me too.

1:13:57Like, I would love to see those guys have one-on-one matches. Those are both two guys who are very, who do not get used enough, and I would love to see Otis. I hope they do more with it than just let Otis be the piece that makes Maxine bad. I want more from him. Yes, yes, exactly. It's just a great classic feud, Austin Theory and Otis. it's a great classic wrestling feud and we don't need maxine to do much more that like at that like that's a perfect thing to focus her on like just correct this be let this be the story and and and and let their and in matches when the ref's not looking and theories has otis that she jumps up on the apron and smacks otis in the face oh that's all we need is stuff like that Like, like, like, okay.

1:14:43Forget the Sopranos. Okay. Maxine is Sharon Stone. Otis is James Woods and, and Robert and Austin theories, Robert De Niro in casino. Yeah. That's basically it. And he's like, you're a deadbeat. Get to stay away from my woman. She's mine now. You're a, you're a gambling loser. You're a piece of shit, you know? And, and, and Otis is like the guy you like, like the guy you feel bad for. I mean, Otis wasn't, isn't a gambling loser, but he's the down on his left Schmagegge. Who's Joe Pesci?

1:15:21Ron Breaker? I don't know. But I do love this, though. I think this is... You only exist out here because of me. I got to tell you, that scene when Joe Pesci first hooks up with Sharon Stone is so like revolting when you're watching it. You're like, oh my God. This happened in real life. What do you mean? That's a true story. What? Oh, you mean the story in the movie? Yeah. Oh, I think you meant Sharon Stone and Joe Pesci. No. But when it happens in the movie, you're just like, oh, this woman, well, she's disgusting. She's going to hook up with Joe Pesci now too. The guy's a murderer. He's terrifying.

1:16:04Yeah. but no, this is, this is, this is something that has been missing in that the mid card has often has good wrestlers having good wrestling matches. What the mid card has lacked is stories that connect with you on a personal level. It's like the top line stories have the personal stuff and the mid card, we see a bunch of people, you know, we're seeing it right now with uh with what we're setting up um with the gauntlet match we had this week it's going to be great it's going to be great wrestling i want more of the mid card to be meaningful stories and and otis is someone who gets you to feel real feelings he's a really lovable character by the way he's one of the sickest athletes in the company he's an absolute physical freak.

1:16:58He can like, he's one of the strongest dudes on earth. We always, I think I could bench more than Otis. I think you could. I mean, listen, just because there are a lot of people who would say that just because I do a 20 pound dumbbell shoulder press, and now I immediately have to get an MRI that I'm not as strong as Otis. You'd be wrong though. Trust me. Okay. I can also lift with Otis. Um, but yeah, you, this is exactly the kind of stuff we need. I'd love to see more of this from Otis because he, he's got a lot there and I just hope that they, they give us more of it. All right. We're going to take our last break and talk to more of your calls about who should be on the list for all time.

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1:18:31Welcome back to cheap heat. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. Oh yeah, baby. That song hits so good. Every single time to this day, still absolutely hits. That's another conversation. Recent theme songs that hit as hard as, was that? There was a point I was like, so funny that I, I recently, I'm watching it again, of course. I think we talked about it on the air a few weeks ago. I'm at the Gloria Trello affair. A very hot affair. Yes. Not on the Tony side, but on her side, yeah. And Silvio, Stephen Van Sant's band at the time, years ago when he left, Bruce Springsteen had this song that played during this scene where they're having sex in a hotel room.

1:19:22I don't even know where I'm going with the story, but it is one of the best underrated like songs ever on the Sopranos that you should definitely listen to. If anyone is remembering this, this moment, um, in the Sopranos. Send me this, send me this on. I'm curious. I want your thoughts. Is it better? Is it like, is it better than Ken Carson or big X the plug or I love it by the way, don't put big X the plug. I know, I know. I need the same category. Okay. Big X the plug is something he's an actual artist making, saying words. There's, there's big X the plug and boss Mandilo. And then there's Ken Carson.

1:19:50Yeah. Totally different world. Uh, Zach, you're right. Game of Thrones. I'd put up there, succession music, pretty strong. Not quite Sopranos, but strong. All right, let's go. I want to hear the, we're going to try to put together the Sopranos and Bloodline somehow. But we're talking about who's white hot. Jeremy in Virginia, your thoughts on who we should add to the list of all time white hot. Yeah, thanks for the call. Thanks for letting me call. Yeah, I think the Daniel Bryan Yes movement, It should be up there. What is it, like 12 years now? And it's still going hot today all over different companies and everything?

1:20:32I agree. And if we're adding that, this list is getting huge now. So now if we're adding that, by the way, we're not adding Summer of Punk? You have to add Summer of Punk. The pipe bomb? The post-pipe bomb? The two months that followed post-pipe bomb? but like now we're arguing are there were the moments that existed that people watch wrestling for i don't know like we're talking about like we're getting away from individuals now no no well like did the question is did daniel brian did the yes movement go so far that it led to people coming to shows like that's i don't know i don't know he was very big in the company I think Punk was bigger than Bryan in that way.

1:21:16Okay. The Punk post-pipe bomb moment got a lot of real national coverage. Like, that became a thing beyond wrestling. That's how CM Punk... I would consider Punk on that list before I would consider Bryan, even though I love Bryan. We were talking about Otis just a few minutes ago and how much we're enjoying the Otis Maxine of it all. Frankie on Long Island, what's up? What's up, guys? So yeah, like Austin cutting his promo about he can never get someone like Maxine. He not watched their product like five years ago when Otis was claiming rights to Mandy Rose, who am I thinking is way much better looking and way more attractive than Maxine was.

1:21:58But I also want to add, you guys have the nicest phone answering person on the whole channel. Kelly? Wow. Yes. She was so nice answering the phone and was like so the greatest. No, Kelly's the greatest. But she also, Kelly, don't you answer phones on other shows? Yeah, mostly on this show. Busted open, I run the board, so I don't answer the calls. Wow. Well, we are lucky. That is a win for us. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate your feedback, my friend. Thanks, Frankie. Yeah, I mean, listen, I forgot about the Otis, Mandy Rose of it all as well. He's done well before. But that's just a typical, you know, that's just a very easy catch-all guys like you don't get with girls like her I mean it's every movie it's the most heel thing since the dawn of time alright so in your version here of Bloodline Sopranos Tony is Roman yeah yeah I guess I mean this is not going to be as easy as we think I don't think it's going to be easy you're the yo-yo who thought this could be easy But you're saying then Silvio is Heyman?

1:23:14Yeah, I guess Silvio is Heyman. It does. Listen to your tone. That already tells me this isn't working out. Doesn't work. Well, I mean, who's, I guess, I guess, by the way, with the hair, I guess Solo is Pauly. Solo is Solo is Pauly, but is Solo Pauly? Yeah, but didn't he have like a, doesn't he have the streak in his hair? he does but he solo does have the multicolored hair for sure and he just has a straight up like he just has like a straight up mohawk at this point i'm sorry jay uso is christopher you think jay who says christopher yeah and then who's jimmy um

1:23:58bobby this doesn't work at all it doesn't work who what are we like i don't know like who's junior oh junior is I mean it depends junior could be alpha junior could be Zika

1:24:20and there's never been a female member of the bloodline so you can't even say there's a Carmela or an Adriana Adriana who's Adriana's dog that Christopher sits on Cosette who's Cosette

1:24:37I don't know, man. Who's who's who's who's Johnny Sack? You got to have Johnny Sack. Who's Johnny Sack? So it'd be like somebody who the bloodline Sammy Zane. No, no, no, it'll be more like Cody. It'll be more like Cody. The bloodline doesn't work with Cody though. Who does the bloodline work with and then eventually turned on that's the question that's where you find your johnny sack yes it's it's who does the bloodline work with and then it ends in chaos the the better question is because this really doesn't work at all the better question is although kelly says kelly does like jay as christopher because both of them um they the head of the table in both cases knew they could never really trust them because there's some underlying stuff there that's that's i do like jay Christopher is not bad.

1:25:30He is a wild out. Jay is a wild out. You got to watch out for it for sure. The better question is power ranking the heels in the history of Sopranos. That's more my favorite thing. Like, give me an example. Well, like just talking about Sopranos. Like Ralphie. Is Ralphie the number one heel in the history of the show? I just mean like true heels. I believe that he is He is the biggest heel. Yes. He was there for the longest, I think. Season three and four. And him at his worst. The worst. He did the worst thing anyone ever did. Yes. Like as bad as what's his face was? Richie? As bad as Richie April was.

1:26:23Killing, you know, driving, completely paralyzing poor Beansy. Okay. But he didn't kill Beansy. He didn't kill Beansy. And Beansy was not a young woman. Beansy was an old man. It's a different animal altogether. Yeah. He sold a lot of pizza, Beansy. Oh, no, by the way, he's selling lots of pizza. That's why you got to let someone in if you're selling that much pizza. Beansy was slanging that pizza. So you're putting Ralphie, Ralph Cifaretto, number one heel of all time? Yes. I can't think of a bigger heel than him. who was who was the last who who's the last heel that he's so so is it is it i think it's phil you think phil's the man that could be wait but ralphie phil toss-up that's a good call and then it's ralphie i think it's ralphie phil toss-up with richie right behind right richie is one of my favorite characters in the history of the show he he's still that actor David Proval is his name.

1:27:23He never, it's like, you never see these guys again. I know. He's so good in it. He was amazing in that show. Amazing. He's terrifying. He's like, and yet you feel sorry for him. He's like pathetic. But like, remember the whole jacket thing? Yeah, it showed you like that he's been in jail for so long that he was so out of touch with like everything and all that stuff. When he sees Tony give Sylvia the jacket. I felt terrible. Oh, no, it wasn't Silvio gets the jacket. It's the housekeeper's husband. Right. He gave away the jacket. I felt terrible. You felt terrible for him. And yet he's a terrible, terrible guy.

1:28:03And I will tell you, I mean, there is an argument to make, though, that Janice is the biggest heel in the history of this round. No. Olivia Soprano. Yeah. Yeah. Because she's in she's throughout the course of the she's only season one and two and part of three. She dies in three. but she is the heel in his brain and not only that she essentially okayed having her son killed potentially she did and again the only thing worse than that is what Ralphie did and that's why Ralphie's number one because of the act Ralphie's not as great a character he's not as powerful horrible what's his name veto.

1:28:53I wasn't Phil. No, listen. I'm saying they're bad people. These are bad. Phil's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. And Junior's not ranking, right? No. I mean, he did want to have Tony killed, maybe, but he's not ranking. That's not that bad. He's a tweener. Yeah. Junior's a tweener. Obviously, Tony's the ultimate tweener. Yes. Christopher's a tweener. By the way, Tony's baby fish. Tony's babyface on that show on that show Tony is babyface he's a he's a terrible guy but he's a baby by the way it's it's fun it's it's very true it's why the show is the greatest show of all time right but it's kind of like it's it's in moments what Roman's like he's not really a good guy but he's absolutely a babyface yes you know what I mean but what about what Christopher did to the writer that was terrible horrible that was so bad horrible um we love you guys We hope you enjoyed this wacky week.

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